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Speaker 1: You're good, You're good. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pop your bubble, burst your bubble.

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Speaker 2: But they put their the numbers out, the ratings down.

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Speaker 2: You were the lowest rated episode this season.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? I knew i'd bought you.

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Speaker 3: You are so serious. I don't want to birth. Once

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know what the numbers are. I enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the hell out of that episode last night. The only

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Speaker 1: But you know, next time.

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Speaker 3: They honestly, they got enough on they they left enough

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Speaker 1: What is there something they didn't touch base with? Is

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 4: For example, are we on right now?

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Speaker 1: We're on?

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Speaker 3: Okay? The biggest example was one of my best friends

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Speaker 3: on so many things Todd. They interviewed Todd the same way,

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let's let's get believe it or not. I

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Speaker 2: Yay, I did, and I have them on my phone

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Speaker 2: because I was just telling Chad. I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: you would tell me stories, right, but you wouldn't tell me,

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Speaker 2: Squirrel and me and her in the car is like,

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Speaker 2: you're my favorite travel partner, Invice. But the first thing

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Speaker 1: He's full of shit. Prostitution.

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Speaker 3: It's like, so, what.

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Speaker 3: They opened up of twenty five hundred people nightclub with

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Speaker 4: Next thing you know, I'm a Chippendale.

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Speaker 1: Did you bang her in that office?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, So let's go back prostitution. You

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Speaker 2: paid one hundred so I'm going to sleep with you tonight.

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Speaker 1: So how many ladies would you be with?

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Speaker 3: No? Probably like maybe twenty total and six more twenty

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Speaker 3: They did? Nobody was shaved nobody.

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 3: That was every girl just a girl that you would

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Speaker 3: Never? Once? In my life? Oh god, you should never

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Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about the drugs, which we'll get into.

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Speaker 3: You should be all right. You gotta understand something, lady.

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Speaker 3: This is a I'm not I'm not in a nightclub

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Speaker 1: It's said pulsations in this was that where you were?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was Punny pulsations at my first show. I was

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Speaker 3: What, Yeah we did. I had anything to do with it,

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Speaker 3: Well it was.

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Speaker 4: I must have told everybody the story that night.

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Speaker 2: Thank god it didn't last because and you know who

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Speaker 3: God. Another thing that was about John Taffer was the

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Speaker 3: The first night the club opened, the spaceship came out

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Speaker 3: Google that man.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that lady would have paid you one

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: You do the right thing, and you want to marry

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Speaker 3: Anyway, whether she was pregnant or not.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it was technically no. The way they edited

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because everybody that I talk to that does dark

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Speaker 2: but I didn't really say this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of hard to know, like what is

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Speaker 3: So that's when I picked it up. But I would,

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Speaker 3: I would pick it up easily. I'm like, I never

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Speaker 3: Well? I had to because I started in June nineteen

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Speaker 2: So if Paul didn't say you were getting the surfboard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But but you know what the funny thing is,

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Speaker 6: I didn't give him credit on the show last night.

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Speaker 2: There's the I wish I could have Todd and Paul

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Speaker 3: I know that story exactly because it was at Lulu

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Speaker 3: My stories have stories right here. So so Missy gets

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Speaker 4: To go ooh, look at her lips, look at her.

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Speaker 3: I was so mean.

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Speaker 3: I apologize to her later, like yeah, she cried, and

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Speaker 3: So Laurie, Yeah, so see, Laurie knew something was going on.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that she was my seven

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Speaker 2: So what I mean, I didn't see that match, but

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Speaker 3: I forgot all about that part. Yeah, missus was sown arm?

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Speaker 4: She just started whacking her with the cane.

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Speaker 3: Like wait, wait wait wait yeah, whacking her with the cane.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't remember, but she knew it and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I don't know. I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: How long after that were you guys married for Oh dude, we.

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Speaker 3: Were married for way longer than we were together. We

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Speaker 2: Okay, So they they, while we're talking about her, might

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Speaker 3: This is the here, you know what I'm saying. Okay,

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Speaker 3: And and and the kids were always more important than her,

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Speaker 2: I agree with that statement, but I don't agree with

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Speaker 1: You're one of my best friends. I love you to death.

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Speaker 2: If I didn't know you the way I know you now,

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Speaker 1: Hate that guy.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I hated that guy once, Like right now, I

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Speaker 1: Well I just on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, No, it was focus of what's real in

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Speaker 2: Because back in the day, you're so fixated on how

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Speaker 2: This is all I know. Blah blah blah, blah blah.

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Speaker 2: I was single when I worked there. I didn't have

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Speaker 2: But now, like I would die for my family, and

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Speaker 2: But I never, like with Todd and Raven and all

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Like, I wasn't in that circle. So I didn't see

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Speaker 3: But I know my heart now, I understand he's so

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Speaker 4: And really selfish. It's selfish.

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Speaker 1: You've changed, You've changed.

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Speaker 3: Well, because the older you get me hopefully, the little

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Speaker 4: But I screwed all that up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not I'm not beating a dead horse.

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the person that you are now, I

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of putting you over, which I hate

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Speaker 2: putting you over. Yeah, kind of putting you over for that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's go to my little boyfriend, Tyler, who I always

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Speaker 2: little brunt.

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Speaker 1: But you told him to act like that.

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Speaker 2: And I understand that and now me and T I

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Speaker 2: years old, so he's in kindergarten, first grade something like that, right.

446
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I held him back because I want I

447
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: didn't put him into kindergarten until he was six years

448
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: old because I wanted that one more year of maturity

449
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: for him. Playing sports as a senior in high school

450
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: had the edge. That's you know, that's how I think

451
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: because I wasn't eighteen until I graduated. He was eighteen

452
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: the first day of school, so he was the oldest

453
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: kid in the class.

454
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh right, So regardless of how old he was, he's

455
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: going to school. Are these kids like privy to are

456
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: the parents? Does anybody know what's going on? Is Ty

457
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: putting himself over and selling eight by tens a recess?

458
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Like what's happening? Because that's what I would have did.

459
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: Well, we're on at two o'clock in the morning, you

460
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And I'm living in Broom Hall

461
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: or Newtown Square, Pennsylvania. There wasn't a wrestling fan kind

462
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: of town, you know what I'm saying. So it took me.

463
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: It took a while longer until I got a little

464
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: bit more till he and me got a little bit

465
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: more famous, because I was.

466
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Gonna say, like little kids, they talked, and so this

467
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: here he is, he's on television. He's you know, he's

468
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: in the hottest angle at the company season a long time.

469
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: And he's had explained that in another first graders.

470
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, this great angle with this dude.

471
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: Raven kissed him because look at look at the delivery

472
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: in the promos that he gave that little ship was

473
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: right on the money, and.

474
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: Like Scotty said, he goes.

475
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: Scotty was like, I could flub my lines and forget

476
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: to give him his cue, and he would just say

477
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: his line like that.

478
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: And the last spot that they showed him, we were

479
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: in the park in New York City, like its two

480
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: three a m oh, this is the same night we

481
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: had Meani naked on and he had all and he

482
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: was doing blue dust. So we went and got the

483
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: we got.

484
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 7: Blue icing from acting. We put it all over him

485
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 7: and a cop happens to show up. As I mean,

486
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 7: he's naked on this bridge, that one of those wooden bridges.

487
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: With a seven year old kid.

488
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: Two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning at a park

489
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: in New York. Well, but it was, but there was

490
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: a neighborhood around the park, you know what I mean.

491
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't a central park or whatever.

492
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 3: So there was there was houses within like one hundred

493
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: and fifty yards of us. Yeah. Yeah, And then we

494
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: wake him up. He goes and stands on a rock.

495
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: He's literally he's been awake for maybe a minute or two.

496
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: It's druzzling out a little bit. We pull them over.

497
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: We say, stand on his rock and say this. When

498
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: Ravin gets done, this one take him. He went right

499
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: back in the car with the sleep.

500
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: What was his salary, any toy.

501
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: That he wanted and went to We went there. Back

502
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: then it was Kmart, So I would take him to

503
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: Kmart every morning. That was like one of our deals.

504
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So he wasn't on the payroll. He didn't ask

505
00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: Debby for.

506
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: A dry wrestlers. He had eight million wrestlers and we

507
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: still have him in like big tubs. And is it

508
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: the basement of this?

509
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: How could you not make him get in line and say, Deabbie,

510
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: where's my draw?

511
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: That's funny.

512
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: I would have made a mass for a draw, All right?

513
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: What else?

514
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: What else?

515
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: The cross angle, the crucifixion angle.

516
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: You still have no regret, no zero, absolutely zero.

517
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: The worst angle that has ever been portrayed in a

518
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: wrestling company ever.

519
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so who's right now? The Palestinians are the Israels.

520
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's a movie.

521
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: You're watching a movie. But my point is with the

522
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: Palestinians and the Israels today, all this strife that's happening

523
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: and all these kids, I gotta go a little bit

524
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: of like general public knowledge on you right here. Couldn't

525
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: happening everywhere and it's all over So I don't know

526
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: how to So what was your problem with it?

527
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't you have just been the sharks and the Jets

528
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and like.

529
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: Maybe cracko jets in the hall, like yeah, just here,

530
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: come on, and you're in the jet all the way

531
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: from your first cigarette, your last Balian day.

532
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I hated that angle.

533
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: I was one of the people that went up the

534
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: pollen screens in his face and said somebody needs to apologize. Now,

535
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I was the main person who got

536
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: Scotty to go out there and apologize I was right,

537
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: I was lit it. I I just thought it was

538
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: the most disrespectful thing I'd ever seen in the world,

539
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: because even like for me, even if you don't believe,

540
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: like so many people believe in religion, and how holy

541
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: and just sacred that is to certain people, and to me,

542
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: it was made a mockery of. And I just I

543
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: just found it to be very poor.

544
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 8: Tokay, Now, suppose you saw on suppose the Exorcist movie,

545
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 8: all right, but suppose it happened on a movie screen,

546
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 8: would you would you leave the movie theater?

547
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't watch it.

548
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: I did not watch the blasphem and so of it all.

549
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: What what I believe in makes me tend to not

550
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: watch that stuff. And that's just me, And I'm not

551
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not preaching. I'm not saying I'm holier

552
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: than now and I haven't made mistakes in my past

553
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I'm just saying for what I believe

554
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: in as a you know, as a Catholic, I guess

555
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: it offended me, and.

556
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't.

557
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to pet.

558
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: That was the whole idea of it. I just was,

559
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: you know what, that was our Howard Stern. You know

560
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, The shock value all that I knew

561
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: that I was, I was at least smart enough at

562
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: that point in my career that the shock value is

563
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: going to be great, and that's what you're looking for.

564
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: And you're on the money with that. I will agree

565
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: with you on that.

566
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Understand your point of view. And it's a out of there.

567
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: There was crickets when that was happening, when they realized

568
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: if you look at the people in the background that

569
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: are usually go crazy.

570
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: They're all like, I've never I've never been in that

571
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: arena where they didn't respond, like with an overwhelming war

572
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: of applause or something. And I just I was right

573
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: in front of the monitor and I said and I

574
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: and I turned around with.

575
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: This disgusting face and I just went, Paul, you just

576
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I had sent.

577
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: Somebody out there to apologize right now. I said, that

578
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I let

579
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: him have it, and he just he took it. He

580
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: didn't argue with me, he didn't say too where.

581
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: He just took it. And I sat back. Yeah, I know.

582
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: I look again, I'm just bringing it up because they

583
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: brought it up on the show and I have to

584
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: relive it again. It I was hot and I was like,

585
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: I hate this angle.

586
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I think I did it. I'm sorry.

587
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: Hey, that's the response that you want. Love it, hate it.

588
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: It's a response.

589
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Help me, I know, I know. All right, Well, I

590
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to see if you bad or not.

591
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: I don't all right, what else, Chad?

592
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to mention because I got.

593
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: You've been suspiciously quiet.

594
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 9: Well, I like to when you guys talk, I like

595
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 9: to just listen because now that's smart.

596
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Let it breathe, let us do it exactly.

597
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 9: But but I see, but I just got to like

598
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 9: they went to the WWE side and then it just

599
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 9: kind of ended. So where where else did they go

600
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 9: with it after they started talking to you about the

601
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 9: WWE side of your career? Like, what else did they come?

602
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: When I got there, I knew in my head that

603
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: it was a short lived thing. It was it was

604
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: an I'm thinking in my head maybe a year year

605
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: and a half that, uh.

606
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: That that's gonna happen. And I have zero.

607
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: Expectations when I'm going into that, except that the money's

608
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: going to be great.

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Same.

610
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: Although you know, it's funny you said that because I

611
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: remember being in a car with Al Snow very early

612
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 2: to where I when we signed our contracts, because we

613
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: all signed at the same time, right, yeah, And I

614
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: was riding with Al one weekend and uh, and I said,

615
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna last six months here, and I just

616
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: had that gut feeling, you know, and He's like, don't

617
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: say that, and I go, I'm saying it. I'm calling it.

618
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: I said, I signed for three years. I guess garantee

619
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: you six months six months to the day was when

620
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: I got released.

621
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: I just were you really started thirty six one month contracts.

622
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 3: That's what that was.

623
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean it was I knew from the get go

624
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: with something told me like, this is your this is

625
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: your last big run, this is your last.

626
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 9: Me.

627
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: I remember me heard Sabu driving around somewhere northern Jersey

628
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: with a garment, and the garment sentus like three hotels

629
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: that didn't even exist anymore. They were like vacant parking lots.

630
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: The garment was probably a two inch screen.

631
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: Ye.

632
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I was one of the first people to have one ever.

633
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: She was so proud of it too. Oh wait, she's like,

634
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: oh look, we don't need a map anymore, because.

635
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: You remember, we wouldn't use map quest.

636
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't paid in the aspect. People doing all these

637
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: guys today don't understand that we would know the town

638
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: and and when we were driving in we would have

639
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: we would go to like a seven to eleven and

640
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: hope we would see a poster like they papered the

641
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: town to know where the building was, and then we'd

642
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: have to hand somebody you couldn't make it to a

643
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: building with.

644
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: It'll make it a couple of long turns.

645
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: Back in the day, it just didn't happen.

646
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: We'd have almanacs.

647
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh therese ABC maps where you had to go to

648
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: one page to the other and everybody got screwed up

649
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: when the town was at the top of this page

650
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: and then you had to turn if you're still going north,

651
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: you had to turn the page thirty six and then

652
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: put that off at the bottom. Or d McNally, yeah,

653
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: now they used to call me hack McNally because at

654
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: one point, even before that, they had what was that

655
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: thing that they came out the maps, road maps, map quest,

656
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: map quest. And then when we were on the road.

657
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Sometimes I would print them up for people and give

658
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: them the people to get to the to get to

659
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: the next town. So I was like, hack McNally, that's funny.

660
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 9: What else did they cover though with you that didn't

661
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 9: get put into the dark side?

662
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: Uh? Or I told you my whole growing up, my

663
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: whole history from when I was five years old watching

664
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: it and talking to my old friend and every time

665
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: we went to the Spectrum. We went to the Spectrum

666
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: every single solitary month for probably five years, from the

667
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: time I was like sixteen till twenty one.

668
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, until I went in jail when I was twenty one.

669
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 9: But even like I'm talking about from the post WWE side,

670
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 9: it's like they hit WWE and then they were like, boo.

671
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: It made it like your career ending.

672
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: That was it? Well yeah, because they got to wrap

673
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: up the show. We want more of a PostScript though,

674
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: give me something. Yeah, but I expect that, you know

675
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. They're trying to wrap it up. They're

676
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: getting there, their points across, and seventeen years ago the

677
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: lot's happened.

678
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: Come on, Yeah, we're still making towns. I mean, my god,

679
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: put the guy over.

680
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, at least who was it? Oh was it

681
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: raven or somebody said, well, at least he's still doing

682
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: it thirty five years later, which is a joke when

683
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: you think about it. For any that we're still making money.

684
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: People pay us.

685
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: To go have family reunions all over the country.

686
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: The greatest thing ever, it really is. None of us

687
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: thought that.

688
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: Look, we work really hard and we give a lot

689
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: of ourselves at these.

690
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: Yeah we did.

691
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: We say it all the time. We're like, we're the

692
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: luckiest people in the world. Were now with our best friends,

693
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: we have a good time.

694
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: We sign our name the paper and that's it.

695
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: It's so great. I have I have one more question.

696
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: I have a fireball shot here and there.

697
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: I love it all right, the last time you got

698
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: arrest it according to the the TV show.

699
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: Right Juel Bado's party, seventy fifth birthday.

700
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: It was okay, I said earlier, I.

701
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: Said the run of the Swat Team for me.

702
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I said, there's no way this is a wrestling show.

703
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: It looks like a banquet hall at a wedding reception.

704
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was this big captain moves seventy

705
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: fifth birthday.

706
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: So okay, So you were performing or anything, you were.

707
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: No, I was just there drinking thirty Long Island, I

708
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: was teasing me foremost okay, literally thirty.

709
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: It looked like you were at a well technically you

710
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: were like supposed to be at a show, working or something.

711
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: But then when they showed you, I said, no way,

712
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: I said, the way that the tables.

713
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: I started on a bank table with microphone.

714
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I said, did they hire him

715
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: for a button? It's like, what's going on?

716
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: And the albo was doing some of my bookings then,

717
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: so that's how I ended up there, and I'm like, yeah,

718
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: I want to be a captain. Seventy fifth birthday. So

719
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: me Gary to Pitbull and Big Joe that that big,

720
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: that six foot nine biker we used to hang out with?

721
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: What and then what happened? What did you get an arc?

722
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: And over? Who knows? I was shif faced, but from

723
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: the other stories from everybody, because I don't really remember much.

724
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 3: So imagine a bar down in South Philly. Uh that's

725
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: a that's an end unit on a street, a rowhouse,

726
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: so you know how they have the bars underneath. Okay,

727
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: so it's kind of think about that. We're out back,

728
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: he throws a bottle at me, hits me right here

729
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: in the head explodes. Then he runs into the back door.

730
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 3: So I start running down the street and I'm watching

731
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 3: him through the through the windows, running running through the bar.

732
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: Now the Jimmy, Jimmy Vegas, No, not Jimmy Vegas, is

733
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: some other guy, Jimmy. He was in the kitchen at

734
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: the time.

735
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: He said.

736
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: I came in and started throwing glances around, started getting crazy,

737
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: and then he goes And then I found the guy

738
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: hiding behind the door. I opened up the door and

739
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: he was and he was holding this like eighteen inch

740
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: salt and pepper shaker, you know those overs And the

741
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: next thing, the swat team gave it.

742
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: So wait, you went after him to beat him up.

743
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean well obviously.

744
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: After he threw the bottle at your head, you were

745
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: still conscious.

746
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, nobody could believe that the thing exploded and

747
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: a million pieces too. Guys couldn't believe that I was

748
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: chasing him. I would chased so like ten seconds afterwards.

749
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh God, So every story was said, there's not a

750
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: good story that was left off the car.

751
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: All right, I got a story to tell you today.

752
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 3: That dreamer reminded me of today. Okay, he goes, I

753
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember this, but we were at

754
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: the I have no idea this story. So I'm like,

755
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: all right, what did I do? What did I do?

756
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: So we went to the Metallica concert in La at

757
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: the at the coliseum one hundred thousand people or whatever

758
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: there was, and we're backstage because he guess as soon

759
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: as they started playing the Samman song, you ran right

760
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: out on stage and what dram up like that? Like

761
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: the whole place was there to see me. I would

762
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: have bet at ten gee, I would have bet my

763
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: life that I was never on stage with Madonna.

764
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: How do I not remember that.

765
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: My head thirty long islands in that was the Captain lows?

766
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: But who knows? Oh, Dreamer said, Well, back then seven

767
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: to eleven and wah wah had these big buckets. They

768
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 3: were big, like uh plans to paper cups that held

769
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: like forty five ronces. So I would fill the whole

770
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: thing up with vodka and then uh and then top

771
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: it off a little bit with mountain dew or something

772
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: like that. So here's the other part of the story.

773
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: So we're outside of the Kyle See and the dreamer goes.

774
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: You see this cop and he and he's got this

775
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: chip thing on him. This he's a chip cop. You

776
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 3: walk right up to him, start talking to him because

777
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: this was brand new when Chip was there. And you

778
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: know me, I'm in on current events and stuff like that.

779
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Because next thing I know, you're handing your bucket of alcohol.

780
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: I've been up for three days handed to him. He

781
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: lets me ride his motorcycle around the parking lot. Don't

782
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: even remember it. He's had to the cop hand my

783
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: big bucket. Well, he knew who I was though, he

784
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: knew I was the Sandman, so that helped a little bit.

785
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: And he's getting me on his motorcycle.

786
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 3: Dummy, I know, Hey, you just got me these Sometimes

787
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: I just walk into some stuff.

788
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Sometimes that story would have been aces to put on

789
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: the Dark Side episode I.

790
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: Forgot.

791
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: That's why people are like, why don't you write a book.

792
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't remember anything.

793
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: I would have to give a chapter out the friendy,

794
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: a chapter out the dream, or a draft out. I

795
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: would give the four wards to the book. That's it.

796
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: That's it.

797
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: I get them forward.

798
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: Hey, this is how these people remembered.

799
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you have lived a charmed life. And

800
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: Todd was right and Laurie was right. You should have

801
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: been dead a long time. But I'm so glad you're alive.

802
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Multiple times I should easily done.

803
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're still with us, because yes, me too.

804
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: My grandkids got up like six forty five with my

805
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: two year old grandson and then two years two hours later,

806
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: the four year four year old got up, took them

807
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: out back to the pool and stuff.

808
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: Called the pool video.

809
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: I was Oliver shooting that with me and these.

810
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: It was so cute. Yeah, I love I love seeing

811
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: this is what I love.

812
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: I love that time. There's nothing better than that time.

813
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: I love getting up with them in the morning.

814
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: And I am never ever up at that time unless

815
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: I gotta get on an airplane. I'm not up at

816
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: six forty five.

817
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, we're not flying on the private

818
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: plane anymore. We're fine. I'll talk to you about that later.

819
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: Oh god, it changed, No, but we were we were

820
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: in I don't know where we were, but it was

821
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: last I think it was last year, and it was me,

822
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: you and Shane. It was like nine thirty, you know,

823
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 2: at night, and we had just got to the hotel.

824
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: We had a show the next day or whatever. We're

825
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: just chilling and Hack goes, twenty years ago, we'd be

826
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: sitting in the room doing coke or getting bombed or

827
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: this and that. He goes, Now we're talking about our kids,

828
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: and we're now that we don't have any alcohol here

829
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: and no drugs. And he goes, and this is great,

830
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, it's nice. It's different, and it's

831
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: nice because.

832
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: We have matured different phases of life.

833
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: Well, I listen, I enjoyed.

834
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: The problem is I got stuck at fifteen year old

835
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: for like forty years. That was my problem.

836
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: That's yours.

837
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: Every psychiaogist, every psychiatrist I've ever told, they were like, dude,

838
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: you never you never mature at over fifteen years old.

839
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: That's when you're problem. That's why he gets to get

840
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: along so good with kids, because you never matured.

841
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: Well, I think you have, but I think there's certain

842
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: instances where you still act like an idiot.

843
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: And I can say that because.

844
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: Every day, like eighteen times, well, I walk around saying, heck,

845
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: why did you do that? You're an idiot? I talked

846
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: to You're an idiot.

847
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I enjoyed you back then, but I thoroughly enjoy you now.

848
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, we have ten times better relationship than wherever.

849
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: But we had Shane in between and saying he was

850
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: he was, he was a plug and he has a progress.

851
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: He was he wasn't Debbie Downer.

852
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't believe I just said that.

853
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell me you said that.

854
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: My grandfather said that back in the day.

855
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: There was a time and I was thinking about this

856
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: today because you and I are really close, right, but

857
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: there was a time when you and I wanted to

858
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: kill each other. And I don't remember that was my fault.

859
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: I don't remember where the tension was. But I know

860
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: the night that you came back where you you think you.

861
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: Got the lautist pop pop why he started on a

862
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: tornado and a volcado.

863
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the building registered on the Richter scale

864
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: that night.

865
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: Listen that night we didn't talk and I was in

866
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: the ring with you, and you wouldn't put you wouldn't

867
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: put the beer, you wouldn't give me the beer, and

868
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: you wouldn't hug me, and you would There were so

869
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: many days and it was super awkward. And if you watch,

870
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: I just watched it the other day because someone no

871
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: it's at the end me, you and Tommy are in

872
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: the rink and you had justging. You and Tommy are hugging,

873
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: and I'm standing there and I'm like, okay, I know

874
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: there's heat. I don't know why there's heat. Is this

875
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: m I for gonna hug me because this is really awkward?

876
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: And you didn't, and I said, well then I'm not

877
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: going to hug him. So Tommy he hands me the

878
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: beer and I just start drinking it by myself because

879
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I got to do something.

880
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: Because I I thought you wouldn't drink the beer.

881
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: You know, we had heat.

882
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: We did, we did.

883
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember you.

884
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: Were mad at me for something I was Shane's fault.

885
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: I blame in Shane for that because he will be

886
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: the common denomination he left.

887
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I know that was the.

888
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: Reason he left, to put all the heat on you,

889
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: and that's why I got mad at you.

890
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: I don't remember, but every time I watched that video,

891
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: I get so mad because I'm like, man, how can

892
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: you watch? I know, but sometimes people put it on

893
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: my my timeline and it's there and I'm just by

894
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: myself drinking him fear like a loser, and I'm just like,

895
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

896
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: For the life of me why we fought.

897
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was my fault, all.

898
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Right, I'll say it was your fault, but I just

899
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: don't remember what it was.

900
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: But it made me sad. I'm like, this could have

901
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: been such a more fun night for me, and I

902
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: was happy that you were back.

903
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: And oh so that's why that's why it's not the

904
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: biggest pop ever, because I shunned you at the end

905
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: of the biggest poem. Oh wow, now you're really showing

906
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: your true collars, Fanny. It's because I shunned you. That's

907
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: why I wasn't the biggest.

908
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, out of ten, i'd give you like a

909
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: seven point eight.

910
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Oh wow, if I can weigh in.

911
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 9: I do have to take the headphones out when he

912
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 9: comes out because it is so loud, so very loud.

913
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: It is a good pop and he's jacked and then

914
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: and then the jackness goes away after like three monks.

915
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: Well, dude, I only worked out for six months ever

916
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: in my entire life. I know, that's it. I did

917
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: six months. I got jack stop working it.

918
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: Because you were in the lands of the giants and

919
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: then you came back to the lands of the.

920
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: Pudgies and it was great.

921
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: It was anyway.

922
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got you. I wanted to get

923
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: you first, but stupid busted open beat me. But that's okay.

924
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: What do you want to share with us? Where are

925
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: you going to be?

926
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: Do you even know your schedule?

927
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: Man?

928
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: You were coming up.

929
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: I had to bring this card with me, Samman bad

930
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: so I could plug my stuff here because I can't

931
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: because I can't remember any of it.

932
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I should have drew abs on you. You're little, a

933
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: little pudgy in that drawing.

934
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: Well, no, see that wouldn't be realistic, a realistic rendition

935
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: what my body actually looks like a filter? Dude, you

936
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: should see me without pants on. It's even worse.

937
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: I haven't. I got a flatter ass for Franny right now.

938
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: Had back My ass is good? Now? Oh now, it's

939
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: like God compared the way it was back in the day.

940
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm working out.

941
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: You could tell she's what she works it out.

942
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm working it out, all right. So we we have

943
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: to Sandman podcast.

944
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: Or yeah YouTube at Sandman podcast is twitter at ECWC Man. No,

945
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: that was TikTok at Eacwcman and then x at saman

946
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: Pod done reading. Okay, there's more of it.

947
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: So we have we have nothing, we have stuff.

948
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, Chris said something. Oh oh my god, this weekend.

949
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: It was horrifying. Now how Chris needs an assistant when

950
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 3: he's set and everything up. He does it all himself.

951
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: I flew into Cleveland. Then I had to drive five

952
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: out two hundred and seventy five miles with the worst

953
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: driver I've ever had in my entire life. It was

954
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: like guess break, but it was so horrible. Then I

955
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: go to a hotel. Nobody else is there. I don't know,

956
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: it's late. I'm bumming. The next day we have an

957
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: autograph signing and then I go in and came somebody

958
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: the first match, and then have to drive two hundred

959
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: and seventy five miles to to wherever the Hall of

960
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: Fame is, the Football Hall of Fame Dayton, Ohio. Then

961
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: had to do his show an entrance there, and then

962
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: I had to drive like one hundred miles to Cleveland

963
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: to take my flight.

964
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: To next Why on earth did he not just fly

965
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: you into the first that you had to do?

966
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: He had too much, he did not it's I mean,

967
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: it's his fault, but it's not his fault. He's been

968
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: told more than he could chew, and he just but

969
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: he's a great guy and I love him, so I

970
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: love him too.

971
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: But when I take bookings, I approved the flights before they.

972
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 3: He's the only one I don't no, I I do

973
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: with him too. He didn't get my fight till like

974
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 3: eight days before. That's how. That's how on the organized

975
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: he was.

976
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: That's terrible. That's a long time in the court.

977
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: I love you, Chris, though we do love it. Lose

978
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: some weight though. For your daughters. You gotta stay alive.

979
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: Right now, Chris just saying, look, everybody else calls a moose,

980
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: so if.

981
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: You're listen, we were with a promoter who had a

982
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: daughter that was a little chunky.

983
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: And dude, actually, if it comes across my mind, I

984
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: just say it. I don't know.

985
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, this kid's really fat. She needs

986
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: to go and a diet.

987
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, the girl is like ten years old

988
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: and like a buck eighty.

989
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I said, it's the promoter's daughter. Please shut your mouth.

990
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: We didn't even get paid yet, just to quiet killing me.

991
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: The best. We didn't even that's the first thing she

992
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: goes and say, she dash and shut up.

993
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: We haven't a page.

994
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Like, don't don't.

995
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: Sabotage a little bit of a career that I have left.

996
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: Please help me. We're gonna be together, uh May thirty. First,

997
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna be in West Virginia for the weekend. We

998
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: got three shots that weekend?

999
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: Bro? Wait is that to me? First?

1000
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 4: Into the June first?

1001
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: I cancel that. I cancel it. I did because I

1002
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 3: want to do something with Frankie Edgar in the m

1003
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: M A clean him met I was on his podcast

1004
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 3: and then and he's got to fight in New Jersey

1005
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: that well, he's going into the Hall of Fame, but

1006
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: his young boy is fighting Tyler, my son's friend from

1007
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: high school.

1008
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: You're not coming with me that weekend, I.

1009
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: Don't think so it's three shots it is, I know,

1010
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: but well, all right, here's the deal. I want to

1011
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: do it for for my social media because I could

1012
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: be backstage with the m M.

1013
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 10: And he told me, Mma, you texted me the other one.

1014
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 10: I don't think I've ever seen speechless friends.

1015
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: At right now?

1016
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: Where is it you said? I missed you so bad

1017
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: these last two weekends. I need my travel companion.

1018
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 3: I do, But I, well, why don't you just come

1019
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: to Frank Jeedgar with us?

1020
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 2: Because I got three shots and I'm getting paid huge

1021
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: money for.

1022
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Oh I am never talking to you again if you

1023
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: don't come with me.

1024
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: I I worked on our flights this past weekend to

1025
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: get us.

1026
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: The best flight.

1027
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: Can I give you a Paul Hayman answer right now?

1028
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: That's a bullshit answer.

1029
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm sorry, my phone's ringing right now.

1030
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sad. No, don't make me fly to West

1031
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Virginia alone. Two shots are for Moose and one shot

1032
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: is the Big Beckley Show.

1033
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, But well here's the thing. When I

1034
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 3: mentioned at the Moose, He's like, I got no problem.

1035
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm worried about that weekend for you.

1036
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: Right now, I got a problem.

1037
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: I know what you do with you.

1038
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you we're breaking up.

1039
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: If you're gonna put some shade on you for very

1040
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: now right now that nowadays, I'm really mad at you.

1041
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: All right, then good bye, get off my screen. You're

1042
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: not coming for real.

1043
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: I don't know yet. I have to make a decision.

1044
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: It's three shots, it's a lot of money, and I'm

1045
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: there and it'll be so fun.

1046
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Right, let me talk to the moods to see if

1047
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: it's still happening, because I just talked to him. I

1048
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: know when he acted like it was no problem, me

1049
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: changing out of it.

1050
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: No, there's a problem. There's a problem.

1051
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you now.

1052
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm calling podcast.

1053
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: People don't listen to his podcast unless he comes with me.

1054
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: May thirty first, All right, love you bye.

1055
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: Kid.

1056
00:53:48,680 --> 00:54:01,560
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