WEBVTT - Updates from the Combine | Bears Weekly 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.680 Welcome in Tubble Bears Weekly, a Chicago Bears Network production 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.840 download the Chicago Bears Official at brought you by Verizon 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.520 to follow the team on the go. Bears Weekly has 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.400 brought you by African Healthcare, Athletico Physical Therapy, Beth Rivers, 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.560 CD Dollan More, Connie's Pizza by Gens Energy, and Miller 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.640 likee Kira. Your host, Jeff Chiloniak aka the Mayor of 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.080 Bearsville and his sidekick Tom the sur Faster There. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.440 Welcome Evan, everybody, Welcome in Too Bears Weekly. We're deep 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.280 into the NFL scouting combine and we are going to 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.680 be talking all about it all night long. Got some 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.360 special guests as well. Great Cosel breaks down tape for 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.960 NFL Films will join us. The hot topic is the quarterbacks, 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.400 of course, and also Bruce Feldman, who does an outstanding 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.920 job writing about Cottage football for The Athletic and the 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:55.680 sideline reporter for Fox College Football Saturdays. He does a 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.960 great job and has done a deep dive already on 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.760 a number of these players He's gotten to know very 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.360 well with the course of their respective careers. I'm Jeff 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.640 Jonnyck with Super Bowl winning Bears guard town there. Jim 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.240 Mitill be along from the Combine as well. We're up 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.080 at Hallise Hall. I drove back up here because of 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.920 an event. We have tonight up here at Halls Hall. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.000 But I've been there all week, so we can talk 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.560 about that in time. I know you're watching everything on 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.679 television right now and you're getting a lot of good information. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:26.240 But this is about quarterbacks. This draft about the top three, 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.280 and then we're the rest fit in and potentially the 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.200 first round. Of course, the Bears are the talk of 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.520 the entire draft. Again, it is to. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.680 You, but I'm a position. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.319 It is to you, but I'm a position player, so 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.240 I pay attention to a little bit more outside just 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.720 the quarterback position. I tell you what, I see a 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.040 lot of speed, a lot of athleticism. I see a 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.480 lot of physical development. I see a lot of guys 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.160 that aren't shy about getting into the weight room, and 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.520 I'm glad to see it because I need to see 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.320 the reflection of commitment by these guys that are invited 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.880 to the combine that this is what they want to 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.280 do for a living. I've seen a lot of evidence 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.520 in the forties and some of the drills that the 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:06.160 different positions have done today. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.920 Right, the first of the drills today. And now we're 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.240 joined from Indianapolis by former Chicago Bears quarterback from Serious 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.840 x MNFL radios, moving the chains, Jim Miller here for 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.880 a couple of segments. He's got a big dinner tonight 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.919 with the entire crew from Serious Exam. It's a big 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.240 night for you and it's been a busy few days. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.400 What have you what have you learned so far and 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:24.800 certainly how it pertains to the Bears. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.919 Jimmy, Yeah, obviously, you know, you do wonder about the 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.920 future of the combine when certain players won't be doing 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.919 all the testing and some won't even be doing the medicals. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.959 Believe it or not. That's what the combine was formed 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.799 to do, was get the medicals on all the players 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.400 where teams, you know, can submit that information abroad to 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.040 all thirty two teams. But I think Tom kind of 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.120 nailed it. I think you're seeing the you know, the 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.239 athoticism of the edge rushers, the big defensive lineman that 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.120 got on the field today. So there was a lot 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.760 of buzz because you start to see the numbers that 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:00.520 Braden Fisk from Florida State. What a show that that 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.399 guy put on and Pat and I interviewed that kid. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.639 Seventy one games in college, five years at Western Michigan, 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.200 transfers to Florida State. The guy missed one game, he 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.200 missed four practices total, and he actually put on a 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.920 show today four seven eight and is forty. He's a 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.639 very explosive player, very productive and really, you know, he's 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.840 right there in Michigan City, you know, just down the 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.040 street from the Chicago Bears. He just wonder if they 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.520 want an explosive free technique. This guy has literally checked 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.240 every box from the Reese's Senior Bowl to what he 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.119 did here today at the Annapolis Combine. I just saw 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.920 the recent numbers of Dallas Turner, the edge rusher. My goodness, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.440 what he posted today. But again, you got to be 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.200 able to play football all the tape factors in. But 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.520 you know, there are a lot of different things that 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.400 are unfolding here at the Combine that are not traditional 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.800 and things have been done differently than in the past. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.960 Hey, Jim, I asked Jeff this question. I'd like to 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.119 hear your answer because last year there was so much 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.760 conversation about Bryce Young. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:57.160 CJ. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:02.280 Stroud in the quarterback position almost at sometimes sometimes and 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.960 I get a kick out of watching the rest of 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.720 the position players and to see their performance in the combine. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.720 And then you think about what the narrative, what the 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.480 conversation has been about the quarterback position this year. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.520 Is it any different this year than it was last year? 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.320 Just because the amount of quarterbacks they have at the 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.480 upper upper side of the scale. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.080 Yeah, yeah, well I agree with you, Tom, I think 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.559 this year is a little bit different. Yeah, quarterbacks always 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.160 drive drafts, but you look at the guys that are 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.760 out there available on the free agent market. I don't 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.279 even think since when I played there have been this 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:39.719 many guys available. You've got Ryan Tannehill, you know, you know, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.839 a player like Russell Wilson is expected to be released. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.480 You've got you know, other players that are out there 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.960 that come with the extensive playing time. Gardner Minshew, he's 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.560 available on the open market. Kirk Cousins is available on 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.640 the open market. So just the volume of quarterbacks in 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.440 free agency and what the draft is going to supply 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.360 is a lot different than what has been in the past. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.960 And as we know, sixty eight new starting quarterbacks had 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.880 to start games this year. So much so that the 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.960 NFL already came out today and Troy Vincent, they're at 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.400 three forty five Park Avenue in New York, said that 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.760 they want to change the grounding rule because they know 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.960 it's a problem because if your quarterback gets hurt, it's 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.159 going to affect the outcome of games and the play 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.719 is going to significantly drop for teams that have an 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.560 opportunity to compete. So very interesting year all around what's 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.520 considered to really protect these quarterbacks and what's available out 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.479 there to make your team better, you. 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.039 Know, Jim, another topic that has interested me because not 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.400 only are paying attention to the Combine, but paying attention 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.520 to the NFL over the last few weeks. But now 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.360 it kind of picked up a little speed here at 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.760 the combine. I've never heard the conversation quicker about coaches 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.320 being on a hot seat because they got Belichick and 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.719 Vrabel and some of the other guys waiting in the 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.640 wings for their coaching opportunities. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:58.479 So it's almost like a combination. 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.919 If they don't get the draft right there converged to 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.119 performance and development at a high level, you could see 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.680 guys that are in jeopardy already are losing their job, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.839 and for me, it's kind of a weird topic to 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.560 being brought up at the combine when this should be 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.800 about the players and not a coaching future. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.240 Yeah, but I think we know that that window gets 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.840 smaller every year, and it's not just for the coaches. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.400 I think it's for the general manager. Certainly, a guy 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.679 like Bill Belichick with his success, you know you're gonna, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.279 you know, got to respect to him and what he's done. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.640 You know you're gonna want him to see it through. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.359 But you've got new bee coaches, and I think we 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.200 know the reasons why. I look it down there in 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.680 Carolina with Dave Kanellis who was just hired there, not 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.960 a lot of guys would have taken that job. It's 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.360 not an acceptable job, you know, with what they've done 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.120 and how impatient the owner has been, and so it's 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.200 just not an attractive job, and typically that guy wants 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.720 to win. Now, these owners are aggressive, they don't have patients, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.159 and that's why he's already gone through four new head coaches. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.279 And I think that that's truly a new trend around 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.400 the NFL as well. Think of the new owners out 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.440 in Denver. I mean, they signed the contract for Russell 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.520 Wilson and then brought on Sean Payton. All right. If 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.480 I'm the owner, I'd be like, dude, that's why I 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.200 brought you in here is to fix the quarterback, all right. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.119 And this is a guy who's played at a high level, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.480 and it sounds like they're already to cut ties. So 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.840 impatience is at an all time high. Whether it's a 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.920 veteran coach in Sean Payton or whether it's a rookie 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.920 coach like Dave knelis. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.800 Where the impatience is is at the most important spot, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:38.080 offensive coordinator. Since twenty twenty one, every offensive coordinator has changed, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.520 and gonna be is that insane? I mean, we bring 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.680 it up with with co Sale, great coach selling. Are 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.240 any of you coming up here a bit later. I'm 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:54.200 just stunned by that every single coordinator has changed. Now, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.679 they may have been rehired by somebody else from that group, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.680 but Jim, when you're talking about QB and offense is 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:04.560 taken several years to really digest, get understood, and you're 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.880 changing languages constantly. It flies in the face of all 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:11.320 the discussion we have about guys like Peyton Manning, who 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.720 had the same offense for all those years, and and 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:18.000 Aaron Rodgers and Green all these different offenses where quarterbacks 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.000 flourished in because you took your time with them and 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.480 you didn't have all this change. It's not good for 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.920 the sport. It's not good for offense, not good for 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.880 these quarterbacks who you know, we beat them up when 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.400 they don't do well, but maybe in part because we're 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.440 not patient with the offensive coordinators that are teaching them. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.560 No, I agree with that, Jeff, because you know that's 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.079 never good on a young quarterback's career, or when you're 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.400 constantly changing offensive coordinators. One coach coaches it one way, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.080 another coach coaches it a different way. They've got different schemes, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:54.080 different philosophies, different terminologies that you've said and discussed and 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.400 really just you know, laid out right there. When these 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.160 old coordinators need to adjust to the talent that they 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.960 have and gear the offense to the talents of the 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:07.199 players that they have, and you don't see that. This 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.880 is a lot of cookie cutter stuff where it doesn't 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.400 work out. Let's move on. Let's get another guy in here, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.440 and he's gonna want to do it his way. Here's 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.560 what he believes in. And you look at a guy 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.440 like Alex Smith, who I bring up all the time. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:23.760 He had nine different offensive coordinators as the quarterback for 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.840 the San Francisco forty nine ers. All Right, he moves 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.800 on to Andy Reid, and by the way, he took 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.199 them as the first number one overall pick to a 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:36.520 championship game. Andy Reid identified the talent they trade for him. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.679 Thus they win the AFC West Championship before they ended 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.320 up going to Patrick Mahomes. All right, by then, he 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.280 had been through the gauntlet, He had been through every system, 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.160 he had learned everything. It was a school of hard 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.040 knocks for him, and it's just never a productive way 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.360 to go about it. I think we all acknowledge Alex 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.160 Smith ultimately had a good career, but it was a 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.959 rough start. Man for all the reasons that you just mentioned. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.160 That guy was just going through offense after offense and 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:07.440 never could settle in. He was constantly learning the new offense, 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.640 having to get on the same page with the new coach, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.640 when really the coach really needs to gear the offense 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:13.720 to the players that they have. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.040 By the way, Braden fisks forty faster than Patrick Mahomes 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.720 ran at the combine. I just find that amazing for 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.360 the red shirt senior transfer to FSU from Western Michigan. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.520 All right, Jim, I'm going to take a break. We'll 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.560 have one more segment with you with Tom Fair. I'm 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.439 Jeff Joniack. Thanks to our producers Jordan tread Up and 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.400 Dan Burrelli and also the Jay Cantu in the ESPN 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.000 one thousand studios. This is Bears Weekly on of ESPN 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.360 one thousand and the Bears Radio Network. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.840 Bears Weekly with a Boys of the Bears for twenty 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:46.240 three years Jeff Jack on the Bears Radio Network. 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.000 And the segment of Bears Weekly brought to you by 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.520 Igs Entergy, Jeff Joniick, Tom there, Jim Millers in Indianapolis 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.240 taking care of combine duty. We're headed back there tomorrow 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.400 to here quarterback Caleb william and Drake May and Jayden 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.960 Daniels and all those guys that Jim the Lion to 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.800 get in. There is going to be interesting. People are 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.920 saying this is going to start showing up at five am. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.320 Because if people can understand in the old days, you know, 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.640 you'd get one or two guys and you'd have a 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.520 lot of room to operate and you can actually ask questions. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.640 But now they bring in ten or twelve players at 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.560 once and you have to pick your your lane. But 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.400 the crowd will be around Caleb Williams, that's just the 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.600 fact of the matter. And there's TV cameras and a 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.719 lot of reporters and you're not going to be able 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.160 to even hear what he has to say, so you 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.560 may have to wait to hear it later. But what 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.000 are your expectations. What kind of questions do you think 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:45.600 he's going to get? 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.440 Yeah, I think you're going to get a ton of 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.920 questions one and it's just totally different now, Jeff, I 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.880 think about when I first started with Serious, there were 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.559 only two hundred and fifty credentials offered by the NFL. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.840 Now there's over twelve, over two thousand media credentials that 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.680 are approved by the NFL. Because this has became now 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.040 a TV event, right and the media comes down here 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.960 and it's it's a big event, and now they're broadcasting 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.240 it on TV and it's somewhat must watch a TV 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.600 But yeah, I do think everybody's going to surround Caleb Williams. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.920 You know, he is projected to be the number one 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:24.319 overall quarterback taken. I do think he's been well prepped, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.640 much like his the release of the statement the other 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.640 day about how much he, you know, would love to 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.200 be drafted by Chicago and he's talking about deep Tis 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.320 Pizza and Sirius Tower, and you know, somebody prepped him. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.720 You know, somebody prepped him to say the things that 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.000 he did. And I think he'll be prepped tomorrow and 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.960 very polished with how he deals with the media. He's 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.120 not going to show his cards and we know he's 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.120 not going to do a lot down here, but the 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.040 media is part of it because his camp wants him 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:53.920 to have his story told. And that's just part of 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.040 the test match that goes in to the NFL draft nowadays. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.960 Ask each of you want to start with Tom and 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.719 then Jim pick it up, pick up the baton. What 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.439 do you need to hear from him? Sylvia and Wado 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.720 asked me that same question. I said, I want to 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.320 see and hear the depth of his love of the game. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.440 And sometimes that can't be rehearsed, it's just comes out organically. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.200 What do you want to hear? 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.319 You know he started and now he's put that ball 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:16.720 in motion. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.200 I don't know if there's any injury concerns throughout his 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.040 college career that we should be concerned about. Is he 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:26.280 trying to hide something that's been bothering him. Is that 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.120 why he doesn't want to do the medical Does he 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.640 just not want to take that time up. So I 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.440 would be interesting to, you know, just hear it from him, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.760 to say if there's any concerns about you know, any 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.080 any issues that may come up in the future. I 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.000 don't know if he'll answer him honestly, but I would 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.080 like to know that. But you know, I'm I think, 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.280 like Jim said, he's been prepped to talk enthusiastically about 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.360 any of the top cities that are up up in 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.480 this draft, and you know, I don't think that he'll 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.120 you know, you can ask him a question to really 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.960 get an honest answer out of him. But just because 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.880 now I have medical medical concerns, if he's not willing 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.480 to stand in front of an X ray machine or 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.200 get tested by the doctors when they look at your 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.440 knee manipulation and the other things. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.840 They do, well, I think from his standpoint, that's a 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.120 big mistake because as we know, they always have the 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.040 medical rechecks, and at some point he's going to have 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.400 to give the medicals to all the teams that potentially 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.240 would be interested in him. There's no team that's going 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.160 to sign off on just drafting him without having the medical. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.960 And so if this is unprecedented for a player to 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.440 do this, this could be unprecedented for a team that says, hey, 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.800 you don't give us some medical or taking you off 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.040 our board. And I hate to be as blunt as that, 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.960 but your body is your resume, quite frankly, and teams 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.680 need to push back a little bit because that's what 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.560 this Indianapolis combine was designed for. But any one of 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.400 those teams that potentially and obviously the Bears are in 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.360 the number one pole position to do it, they're going 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.880 to get the medical and they will put him through 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.480 a workout whether he likes it or not, because if 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.000 he doesn't, then they may take him off their board too, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.600 No different than any other team, because those are what 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.760 the fact finding, mission guided discovery that teams are looking 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:12.280 for when they were to make that type of investment 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.680 into a player who was refusing to do so. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.560 Jim, have you altered any of your thinking on any 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.840 of the top quarterbacks, and that includes like JJ McCarthy 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.960 and Michael Penis and Bone Knicks, not just the big 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.920 three that we're all discussing that could go one, two, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.840 three in the draft. Because of who you've spoken to 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.760 scouts or your own analysis of the tape and just 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:34.400 your research. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.480 Yeah, I think Jayden Daniels is going to leap frog 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.880 Drake May and like getting him from North Carolina. Yeah, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.400 I do think you will. I think teams are really 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.640 he in order the way I hear it from teams, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.120 they look at him as another Lamar Jackson, who's what 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.480 a two time league MVP now right, So that's the 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.200 feeling they're getting about Jayden Daniels. I do think Michael 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.160 Pennix is going to be big on the medical but 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.280 I do think he will go in the first round. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.120 I'm somewhat surprised at how high a lot of teams 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.920 look at JJ McCarthy from University Michigan. A lot of 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.120 teams have him in the top twenty right now, which 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.440 surprises me. I personally don't rate him that high, and 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.800 not that I don't like him, but I just think 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.080 that's too high for him. I think he's more of 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.680 a system guy on a very talented team in my opinion. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.640 But a lot of people will go back and say, well, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.840 go look at the TCU game with him. He threw 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:33.640 it all over the lot. Michigan has eighteen players down 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.440 here at the Combine. They are a very good football team. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.640 I personally think he's overrated, and I think if you 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.280 look at a guy like bo Nicks, I don't think 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.640 he's going in the first round. I think he's a 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.040 six year player who's kind of at his ceiling right now. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.640 You know he's got sixty one games played in college, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.560 so I think you know you've seen him at his best. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.960 But Michael Pennix's guy I'm interested in. I think his medicals, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.120 if they prove true, I think he's a guy you'd 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.040 want to take in the first round. So I see 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.080 probably five guys going in the first round. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.520 And lastly, before we let you going off, Tom ask 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.720 one more question as well. But in terms of everything else, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.320 is there a position group that you're most intrigued watching? 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.160 And you're watching certainly the stuff today from the defensive 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.320 line and linebacker level that you really want to see. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.680 I know we're going to watch those quarterbacks on Saturday 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.920 but any group that you need to see to verify 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:32.160 some things or to push up, especially as it pertains 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.440 to the Bears, who you know, I would think edge safety, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.400 not not that they won't fill those needs in free agency, 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.280 but receiver, those type of things. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.320 Yeah, I think receivers. You know, there's all kinds of 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.720 good receivers and they come in all sizes that seem 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.680 to be that seems to be the case the past 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.400 few years. I am interested in these pass rushers. One 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.399 specifically is the Missouri kid Darius Robinson, who ran I 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.840 think to four to nine to one today at two 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.199 hundred and eighty seven pounds. I mean, this guy is 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.760 like to me, he's like a Cam Jordan type of player. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.040 I think he's unique. I do think there are linebackers there. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.400 You're unique. And I do think there are a lot 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.760 of big corners in this draft. A lot of big 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:19.119 corners in this draft, So that intrigues me. An offensive tackle, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.520 this is a good offensive line draft, you know. For 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:23.840 Michael Haynes, I think I brought him up from yukon 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.320 the Garden. There's good centers here. I think the Bears 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.720 are positioned a draft a good center. Powers Johnson out 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.760 there from Oregon is one to really keep your eye on. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.080 But a lot of good centers, a lot of good tackles, 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.840 and some good guards so o line corner or pass 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.800 rusher I think are interesting. I think all areas that 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.840 should interest the Chicago Bears. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.439 You know, Jim, when you look at the tight end 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.359 position and all the job requirement of that position in 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.000 today's modern day game, you know, sometimes I find it 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.560 difficult to see a solid evaluation of what the upside 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.000 of is the of these tight ends. You know, you 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.280 got bowers from origins and young kid kids like that. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.120 But is there a group of tight ends here that, 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.080 when we talked about it last week, that Bears maybe 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.000 should be interested in getting one similar to the template 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.960 of Cole kmet in the versatility. Is there a talent 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:17.240 amongst this group of guys? 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.280 Oh yeah, I think if you look at Ben Sinnett 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.000 from K State, check out this guy. I mean, this 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.680 guy walks on at K State, He's got a full 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.520 ride to South Dakota. He walks on to K State. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.280 He tells his dad, dad, I'm gonna earn a scholarship 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.159 in a year, And his dad's like, hey, man, why 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.440 don't he just take South Dakota that way, I don't 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.800 got to pay a year of school, right, So he says, Dad, 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.760 I'll earn a scholarship in the year, goes to k State, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.400