WEBVTT - 9-1-1? There’s a Woman In the Dark Room! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.800 Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.119 queer sex. Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.360 If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.960 offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this. Viewer 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.880 discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.239 Put Jo, pussy, put your put your pussy up, put 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:26.680 jr pussy, put put Jo busy. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.120 Welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.520 I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm Christotison Rosso. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.600 Each week, we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:35.560 and relationships. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.680 We talk to queer folks of all kinds. We'll ask 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.600 some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, and provide 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.640 practical advice that you can use at home. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.440 Let Jo put joust job put job. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.640 Okay, So today we're doing it. Okay, we're dipping our 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.720 toes into the discourse. Before we dive into today's episode, 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.040 we'll need to read you a I'm apologizing in advance, Chris, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.480 would you mind reading this for us? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:04.480 I'll do my best. Okay. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.880 So the quote reads, why are you as a woman 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.720 stepping foot in a gay bar dark room. There's nothing 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:11.360 for you here. 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.560 Oh wow, this is a real emergency. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.880 Someone please call my own one because this episode. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.560 There's a woman in the dark room. Okay, So some 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.039 of our favorite replies to the message we just read 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.400 include god forbid, a woman has hobbies. That was a 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.960 good one. Another one was on a dirty floor on 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.320 your knees, kate out with a stranger's dick in your mouth. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.440 But a girl coming in is where you draw the line. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.800 It is supporting my trade as he explores his bisexuality, a. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.920 Great reason to be in the dark room, And my 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.680 personal favorite, fondly remembering the time a woman walked by 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.839 my then boyfriend eating me out at a circuit party 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.400 and pushed his head in deeper. Thanks for the assist, queen. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:49.400 Hope you're doing well. 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.040 I mean, that's Ally's ship, that's Ali. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:51.760 Ship, that's real. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.720 And other people pointed out the irony of having sex 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.720 in a public place and being mad that other people 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:57.120 were there. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.920 Yeah, and look, this post in particular was probably rage bait, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.200 get retweets, be honest. It feels like some op ed 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.760 or social media post along these lines. Pops up every 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.920 couple of years and it goes viral and it starts 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.400 the same reductive discourse, and we're exhausted. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.919 And to be clear, we're not talking about a messy 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.240 bachelorette party, touching people inappropriately or dropping gayzlers. That's its 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.440 unute problem. But that's really about someone's behavior. But by 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.040 assuming any woman or of him presenting person doesn't belong 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.919 in a dark room or at a gay bar or 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.920 even on Sniffy's, that's not about their behavior, it's about 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.320 who they are exactly. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.079 Also, not everyone is there for you. If you want 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.200 a room full of CIS gay men, go hang out 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.920 at Azara. This has been a constant debate and struggle 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.359 within the queer community. Somebody I think back to is 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.639 Cynthia Slater. She's an activist in San Francisco in the 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.080 seventies and she actually worked to petition a gay fisting 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.799 bar called the Catacombs to let in women. She's like, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.600 I'm a woman, I'm into fisting. Yeah, let us the 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.560 fuck in. She finally got the Catacombs to allow women 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.240 to enter the space to the fisters. She gathered knowledge 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.080 and information and then she brought it back to lesbians 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.959 outside of the Catacombs outside of San Francisco, and was 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.200 one of the very influential people started kind of the 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.600 S and M movement among queer women. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.320 Yeah, so like if she hadn't gone to these spaces, 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.160 it wasn't allowed in these spaces, none of that would 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:17.480 have happened. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.080 If that hadn't happened, rightly, right, And we would assume 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:21.320 that we want to share queer knowledge. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:21.519 We do. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.880 If you're good at fisting, yeah, show it off, share 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.919 that information. We don't want people fisting poorly. But like, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.280 this is like over fifty years ago at this point, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.200 you know what I mean. So it's like, why are 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.639 we still still having this conversation exactly. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.920 Well, in today's episode, we're going to talk about women 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.560 in gay spaces and why it could be more fun 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.680 to welcome the men than to freak out about it. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:40.720 Let's meet our guests. 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.520 Russian Frankie are a very fun, adventurous couple who make 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.000 adult content and live life on their own terms. They 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.520 travel the world together, filming their experiences hooking up with 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.360 very hot people in all kinds of amazing places, from 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.920 busy cities to quiet beaches. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.400 With real chemistry and a love for new adventures. Question 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.760 Frankie keepings raw, real and exciting for themselves and for 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.240 their audience. Walk to Snipy's Cruising Confessions crushing frank You 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:04.080 all right, we. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.600 Got the cutest couple we've had increasing Confession's history here 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:14.240 and wet wo. Sorry buddy, it used to be me 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:14.880 and Chris. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.680 Coming for a gig. So let's get into your story. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:22.440 How did y'all meet? 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.640 Okay, so my gay friend he came over in my 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.160 apartment and he showed me a flyer from the strip 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.000 club he worked at. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.640 He's like, we're gonna go see him. 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:32.680 I was like, damn, okay. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.159 So I got dressed and we went out to the club, 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:39.440 and you know, I'm very nervous about making people feel 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.720 uncomfortable in certain spots that I'm at, So I'm like, 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.839 I just kind of sat at the bar and kind 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.680 of minded my own business. You know. 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:47.720 It was a gay bar. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.719 Yeah, you want to step on any right, So. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.440 I kept giving him money to go tip him every 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.120 time he like did a performance or something like that. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.200 And me and my friend all night, we're trying to 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.760 decide if he was gay or straight, because you know, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.440 I didn't know, and I couldn't tell either. You know, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.000 there was no like signs, you know, because there's a 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.240 straight man that worked at the gay club, so I 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.360 didn't know. Finally I asked him. I was like, so, 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.200 you know, are you gay or straight? And his response was. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:17.520 Yes, and I'm like, yeah, correct. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.320 It's like that didn't help me at all. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.839 So then I was like, okay, so you know, thinking like, okay, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.280 maybe he's you know both. By the end of the 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.799 night he came over when he put his arm around 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.400 my gay friend that I was with, and then he put. 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.000 His arm around me and grabbed my ass and I 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.200 was like, okay, this is gonna go somewhere. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.320 Yes he said yes. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.560 A week later we were fucking, two months later we 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.919 were dating, and three months after that we were living together. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.039 So very fast, very fast. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.760 She's also the first girl I ever told I'm experimenting 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.000 sexually yeah, and didn't get a negative response. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.760 It didn't really matter to me, you know, I was 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.360 I go to gay bars, obviously I'm attracted to I 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.120 watched gay porn to jerk off. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.440 I haven't met a lot of girls that are like 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.120 I always say, it feels like they're tolerating your bisexuality 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.240 or porn if you know, could I do gay porn 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.520 and straight porn? Transport everything. I feel like there's a 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.760 stark difference between tolerating it and being about it. Yeah, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.600 you know, like she is like like she's jerking off 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:31.400 to my porn with other right, Yeah, And if you 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.200 could choose between those two, like if my girl tolerating 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:36.520 it and my girl jerking off. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:37.599 To me dudes. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.280 And we talk like it's fun, I could be like, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.000 yo that guys, She's like yeah, like like we'll go fuck. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.480 It's fun that we can talk about that. It's just 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.000 not a typical dynamic of a heteronormative relationship, you. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.120 Know, but nothing too Like he made me feel comfortable 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.080 about because I was very slashamed, and I was very 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.520 you know in a place where I have never explored 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.480 my sexuality, and like, finally I was able to talk 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.320 that hey, like I've always wanted to experience a trans 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.680 woman or like try something other than what I've been 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.720 doing all my life, and like he didn't judge me 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.280 for it, so it made me feel more comfortable that, hey, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.440 I can finally feel free, and I do. I never 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.880 felt more free and just accepted in any situation ever 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.000 in my life than you know, being with him. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:25.840 So it's really great. 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.520 Yeah, it's amazing how like authenticity breeds authenticity, Right, It's 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.680 like you show up as how you want to be 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.680 treated and then like you get that in spades. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.480 I'm curious with both of you because both of you 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.600 are somewhere on the spectrum of like sexual fluidity bisexuality. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.960 You said you've faced a lot of discrimination when you've 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.760 told past partners that you are sexually fluid or explored 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.720 by sexuality. What do you think makes them react that way? 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.240 Like what is it in their life that they've been 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.800 told or taught that makes them turned off at the 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.240 idea of a partner who is more sexually fluid. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:53.320 Than they are. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.760 When I finally like I'm going to be very open 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:00.000 in public about me exploring my sexuality, I was thinking 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.760 thing about like my college teammates when I played basketball 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.880 and how homophobic we are in the locker room, and 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.120 like I participated in that, Like I'm not gonna lie, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.400 Like I said, the no homo thing a lot. You know, 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.480 we pointed out gay things to each other, Like what 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.600 you're doing there is gay and it's bad. We talked 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.760 more about gayshit than gay men. Yeah, for sure, like 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.040 looking back at them, like we were so gay. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.640 In your underwear, Yeah, talking about each other's decks a lot. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:29.920 Like. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.000 That's what was going through my head initially as the 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.120 people that would probably discriminate me the most, right, it 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:42.000 was other straight conservative men. What I'd never thought about 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.480 was what women would react. I actually thought they would 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.959 be very accepting because generally women are allies of the 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.360 LGBTQ community. They always are the ones at the marches everything. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.960 What I found out was they're cool with you being gay, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.800 they don't want their husband to be. It's like not 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.560 in the house, you know what I mean, not at home. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.840 HIV is brought up way more than I ever expected. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.439 Like they always say they're scared of catching HIV from me, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.880 and like I'm not even gonna get into that conversation, 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.280 right of how ignorant that is. Or they say things 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.800 like I don't want your shitty dick in me, and 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.880 I'm like you do anal two right, yeah, And like 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.880 I know gay men douch better than you. 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.280 Fiber Supplement's bulls got. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:27.760 Right, yeah. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.400 And I just think women haven't been challenged on that 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.520 way of thinking yet and maybe it'll come and maybe 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.400 like this, you know what we're doing right now is 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.559 that process. It's one of the conversations I think that 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.839 still needs to happen. Even if you're just like a 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.480 mostly straight guy or a fully like fifty to fifty 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.600 by guy, there's a lot of like because you haven't 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:49.679 really picked a side. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.800 Sure, yeah, everything's got to be black and white. Everything's 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.120 got to be like one hundred, you know. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:55.880 And I don't want to do a label. I'm just 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.160 gonna be crushed and I'm gonna do what I want 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:58.720 when I want. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.679 You know. It's been different now talking about it with 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.520 my friends and being more able to be open about 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.760 it and not caring more what they think, because back 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.439 when I was slutshame for liking what I liked, I 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.520 just kept it inside and never talked about it. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.120 It's very different now. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.480 Like, say I'm talking to a guy and they're like, wow, 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.839 you do porn with trans women and like you like 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.199 gay guys experience with you. I was like, yeah, like 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.599 I love letting someone like try my pussy for the 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.559 first time, and like that is so great to me, 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.360 and the first time what wasn't the first time that 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.040 it happened. We had a clubhouse in Austin and I 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.439 was filming a porn for, you know, a few of 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.079 my friends, and the way this guy was fucking I 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.559 was like, damn, he looks like he fuck's really good. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.160 I was like, I wish I want to try him. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.040 And he was gay guy, so I didn't ever think, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.360 you know, that would happen. And we walk out of 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.440 our little cabinary. He's standing right by the fence line 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.400 and Crushed goes, hey, do you want to fuck her? 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.679 And he goes he goes yeah, and I was like, okay, 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.599 let's do it. So he like bent me over the 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.199 picking table and then star fucking me. Crush pulls out 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.920 the camera and all of our other gay friends started 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:14.480 lining up. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.000 And I was like, I guess this is turning into 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:21.000 a gay gang bang. And it's been one of my 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.320 best sellers ever since. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.520 It's all hot guys, and then like it looks like 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.560 a straight gang bang. Yeah, but then the hot guys 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.000 are jerking each other off in the background and making 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.680 out and they're like eating pussy together, which like there's 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.839 something when the because they're gay and more comfortable, Like 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.200 when they eat the pussy together, it's better. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.320 It's not like they're trying to. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.960 Like, you know, because there's no fear of being gay, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:49.079 you know what I mean. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.280 When I talk to guys like at the strip club 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.840 who are in hiding basically and they want to experience, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.640 and like when they feel me talking about my fluidity 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.880 and like how I feel, all of a sudden, they 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:03.520 feel comfortable. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.400 Like I've always wanted to be pegged. I've always wanted 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.200 to do this. I was like, let's do it, sign 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:08.560 me up. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.520 And there are a few guys that are also like, oh, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.760 I could never have another guys dick near me. I 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.719 was like, well, for the first time I went air tight, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.800 you know, with two trans women and my boyfriend, and 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.480 like it was one of the best feelings I've ever had. Yeah, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.439 I never ever thought that I would have all three 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:24.839 holes filled at the same time. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.719 The culture around sex and the LGBTQ community is what 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.920 I really like. And I love that opposite of sluedt 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:38.719 shaming attitude, that sex positivity and like it's just not 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:39.480 that big a deal. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.880 People are just friendly in the community and like they understand, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.680 like everybody wants to try something and like it's okay 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.160 to try something new and you don't have to be like, oh, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.000 I'm gonna stand over here in the corner and feel 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:52.920 bad about what I like. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.839 Yeah, And that's the thing that really grinds my gears 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.920 about like these complaints about like women or people who 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.560 aren't gay men in like dark rooms or queer spaces, 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.480 because you don't know why someone's there, right, Like if 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:06.520 you see a woman or from presenting person, maybe they're 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.719 there with their partner, Maybe they're interested in fucking and 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.760 doing it in a respectful way. Maybe they're thinking of 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.160 transitioning and trying to like come into queer spaces if 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.440 you don't read them as a man yet, Like, there's 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.160 so many reasons someone could be in that space and 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.880 for me to see other folks immediately jump to being 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.640 like no and cutting them off, it's like this is 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.960 a space one of the few spaces where you can 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.880 explore your sexuality without judgment, and that should be open 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.520 to everybody that wants to explore their sexuality because where 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.360 are you or you going to go at a straight 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.960 bar to do what you do. It's like you can't 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.959 really find that anywhere besides like these dark rooms and 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.880 sex parties and you know, working in the industry, how long. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.599 Was it before you started going to bars and like 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.400 hunting together ethically. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.960 Yeah, pretty quickly moved to a club. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.800 She opened up to me about the trans yeah, and 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.120 I was like, well, yeah, I've done lots of that, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.079 and I was like, I know grave trans bars that 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.400 we can go to and a beautiful trans woman she 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.400 really was, And. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.320 We took her in the back and did some dances 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.840 and like it turned into only fans club work. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.000 It's funny you just show up and suddenly the only 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.319 fans collapse. It's an amazing skill. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.240 We do feel like we're documenting our sexual experiences a 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:18.600 little bit. 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.080 This archive. You have his history. My first time ever. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.720 Sucking dig is on camera and it's authentic. It wasn't 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.320 planned the way people lie. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.080 About saying they're sucking their first stick on camera all 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.680 the time. And you actually. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:38.400 It was with Braxton Cruise and he's fucking handsome Australian 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.160 man with the most beautiful dick ever. And up until 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.400 that point, I pretty much always thought like, sucking dick 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.680 isn't really something I think I want to do. Rights 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.440 just how I felt and I was eating his ass. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.560 And I started. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.400 I started, I ever thought that I would suck dick, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.920 but eating ass absolutely. 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:00.960 Different. I learned. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.440 I learned long ago that I like asked, it doesn't 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.920 matter what. But anyway, I was eating his ass and 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.520 his dick was just there, and I was like, it's 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.960 a nice dick. I'm gonna put my mouth on it. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.080 And I was like, no, you don't do that. And 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.560 then I was just like, why why did I just 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.480 do that? I want to do it. And I looked 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.000 at her and I'm like, I think I want to 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:21.720 suck his dig. 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:29.000 Let's go. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.000 This was like early in my porn career and like 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.840 only fans career, and so like people kind of already 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.680 thought I didn't do that because they thought I was 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.240 one of those tops that just don't do it. And 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.840 so he was kind of like surprised. He's like, oh really, 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:44.720 and I was like, yeah, you got a nice dick. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.600 I was like, and I sucked it a little bit too. 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.640 After that, I was like. 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.720 It was adorable to be fair, because I was literally 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.240 like I don't know if I'm going to be good 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.840 at this, Like is that good? 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.360 Like this is so hot? 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.960 And what I realized after that because I thought I 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.120 didn't want to suck dick because I just didn't think 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.920 it was something I was into. And afterward I was like, Oh, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.720 the fucking reason was I was still thinking about what 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.160 other people would think if they knew I sucked dick, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.280 and I didn't realize it because I was like, oh, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.000 now everyone will know I sucked a dick. Despite how 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.360 far I've come, was still thinking that it's like a 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.280 degrading thing to do for me, you know, because the 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.760 way we talked about sucking dick as straight man in 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:39.240 the locker room was purely from a degrading sense, and 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.440 that I hadn't let that go yet. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.320 Fully. 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:44.640 Now it's like I do it all the time. When 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.840 I want to like it, I still don't want to. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.840 Sometimes it's not like a thing like yeah, I'm weird 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.360 about some things, like I hate my own come. It's 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.680 is such a weird alone in that, like I'm just 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.920 not come guy. Yeah I love making people come. Yeah 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.960 I don't, And like I'd rather have you come on 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.560 my chest than me come on my chest. 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.040 Okay, how much time do we have? Oh my god, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.080 y'all are a fucking who. We have to take a break. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:13.960 This is so much fun. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:14.320 All right. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.320 When we come back, Frankie's gonna share some tips for 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.359 girls who want to be in gay spaces, and Crush 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.000 will offer some advice for gay dudes who want to 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.639 co exist more peacefully with the. 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:22.639 Women in their lives. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:23.680 I think we can achieve that. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:24.520 I think we can. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.959 I think we can after this conversation, all right, more 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:36.840 Sniffy's cruising confessions after the break, don't go anywhere. Welcome back. 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:37.200 Now. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.680 We've been talking with bisexual content creator couple Crush and Frankie, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.200 And if you're like us, you are fully obsessed with 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:43.840 them by now. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.960 I would hope, but I'm sure there are some of 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.920 you that are still big mad that we are even 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.560 talking about women in case spaces, and we're here to 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:51.520 make honestly. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.560 In this act, we're going to hear some tips and 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.080 tricks from both Frankie Crush on how gay guys and 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.360 some women can co exist in gay bars and yes, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.600 even dark rooms or picnic table fuck sessions. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.840 So, frank what would you recommend for a woman who 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.480 is interested in going out to a gay bar? 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:13.760 So in retrospect, like a woman really just needs to 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:19.560 know her place in this community, because like I can 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.080 go into a gay bar and act like I'm the 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.119 center of attention and people can hate me. Or I 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.480 can go into a gay bar and be friends with 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:32.120