Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains kobious spoilers for the finale of
Speaker 1: Book Boba Fett, and really that's it. I think we
Speaker 1: spoil some stuff from the original Star Wars trilogia, So
Speaker 1: if by wild chance you're not familiar with the original trilogy,
Speaker 1: just beware of that spoilers. Spoiler spoilers. If you haven't
Speaker 1: watched the finale of Book a Boavet, do that now,
Speaker 1: then come back and listen and give us five stars.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion, and welcome to x ray Vision,
Speaker 1: the Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,
Speaker 1: and pop culture. In today's episode on previously on, we
Speaker 1: discuss the incredible raft of news that dropped mere moments
Speaker 1: before we hit record on this podcast. In the airlock,
Speaker 1: we talked the Book of Boba Fett finale, ride that
Speaker 1: rank or baby un nerd out. A listener proposes that
Speaker 1: we all engage with Jim Butcher's trust in files and
Speaker 1: in the endgame. We discuss the medal of Yavin, who
Speaker 1: gets it from the Book of Bobafet, our picks for
Speaker 1: the winner of the Book of Boaveet and joining us
Speaker 1: today the legend, the myth, the icon, the brilliant Rosie Night, Rosie,
Speaker 1: how are you hello?
Speaker 3: I'm good. It's nice to have moved from mythological status
Speaker 3: to real life status.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rosie, how are you?
Speaker 3: First of all, Yeah, I'm doing okay, still twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: but we're living and there was so much news before
Speaker 3: we started recording. It's like God, we were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: we know what we're covering today. It's gonna talk about
Speaker 3: Boba fet. I'm gonna say some things might happen. It's
Speaker 3: like everything is happening.
Speaker 1: Let's talk news. First of all, The Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings first look Peace dropped on Vanity Fair with a
Speaker 1: byline from Anthony Brizikin and Joanna Robinson. We get a
Speaker 1: look at the actors who are playing the various characters.
Speaker 1: We'll have more to say about this after the trailer
Speaker 1: drops during the super Bowl, but any initial reactions, Rosy,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: It continues to prove what we thought Amazon was trying
Speaker 3: to prove, which is like craft and texture and practicality.
Speaker 3: It looks really good and it looks really real that
Speaker 3: a lot of what they shared was costume focused, practical focused,
Speaker 3: smartet focused, and yeah, it looks really good. And I
Speaker 3: think it's like people are going to be stoked that
Speaker 3: Gladriel's really there played by who they thought it was
Speaker 3: going to be played by, and kind of this is
Speaker 3: our first look at proper characters and kind of how
Speaker 3: they look in the world, and I think it looks
Speaker 3: really cool. I'm stoked to see the trailer.
Speaker 1: Some of the include Owayne Arthur as Prince during the
Speaker 1: fourth the elf Arndier played by Ismail Cruz Cordova, of course,
Speaker 1: Gladriel Elrond played by Robert Arameo, and more. I think
Speaker 1: it's very smart to show how much of the craft
Speaker 1: is front and center in this show, because there's no
Speaker 1: shortage of sci fi slash comics slash fantasy adaptions that
Speaker 1: have been sunk because the wigs look bad. You know,
Speaker 1: the wigs just look cheap, and that is not the
Speaker 1: case with this. Everything looks really real and lived in
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see the trailer. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl trailers, some rumors for trailers that might drop
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl. Now, Jurassic World Dominion drop today,
Speaker 1: so that's out. We've got dinosaurs like in the American West.
Speaker 1: It is Yellowstone meets dinosaurs, Yeah, and meets a surprise
Speaker 1: like cloning plot. I don't care. I'm in me too.
Speaker 3: Chris Pratt's like riding a motorcycle through Italy being chased
Speaker 3: by raptors, and then Laura Dunn is there looking really cool,
Speaker 3: and Sam.
Speaker 1: Neil's there looking really back together again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows. I hope that finally we'll get to
Speaker 3: see a romantic connection. I love those two, probably one
Speaker 3: of my original childhood ships. But yeah, it looks absolutely
Speaker 3: bonkers and I will be watching it.
Speaker 1: I also love the fact that it's like Chris Pratt's
Speaker 1: character has smuggled his hit Raptor Blue like out of
Speaker 1: the island and it is just like raising it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his clone adopted daughter his boiler alert.
Speaker 1: This is I'm excited. It's gonna be wild. I love
Speaker 1: Jurassic World. I love all the Jurassics. I just like
Speaker 1: dinosaurs stopping around, incredible music. It's got it all, so okay.
Speaker 1: Unconfirmed trailers for the Super Bowl, Uh, Doctor Strange in
Speaker 1: the Multiverse of manas you think we'll see it?
Speaker 3: It would make sense. I mean, the movie comes out pretty.
Speaker 1: Soon May sixth A Disney sizzle reel for their upcoming
Speaker 1: Disney Plue shows, which would include some Moon Night stuff,
Speaker 1: some Obi Wan Kenobi stuff, She Hulk, Miss Marvel, and
Speaker 1: possibly more. I would not be surprised to see that,
Speaker 1: and possibly might we see for the Sonic fans out
Speaker 1: there Sonic the Hedgehog two, the first trailer was released
Speaker 1: in December, but could there be another one?
Speaker 3: They've had some TV spots recently, like I saw one yesterday,
Speaker 3: so like, I feel like Sonic's already out there, but
Speaker 3: I do feel like people want to see more of
Speaker 3: Idris Alba dress Alber's knuckles, so I'm sure that people
Speaker 3: will want to see that. Will it be a super
Speaker 3: book trailer? I don't know. This year is so weird.
Speaker 1: I'm just like weird.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that will be the big superhero trailer. Donut
Speaker 3: King and Sonic back again.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Kenoby. We got a poster and a
Speaker 1: release date and a short plot synopsis for Kenobi. A
Speaker 1: snopsis follows. The story begins ten years after the dramatic
Speaker 1: events of Star Wars Revenger of the Sith, where Obi
Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi faced his greatest defeat, the downfall corruption of
Speaker 1: his best friend and Jedi apprentice Anakin Skywalker who turned
Speaker 1: to the dark side as the evil Sith Lord Darth Vader.
Speaker 1: Spoiler for everybody who's not seen the Original Children. That
Speaker 1: show will release on May twenty fifth. I'm extremely excited
Speaker 1: for it. The poster looks intriguing. I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised if a bunch of the kind of dangling ends
Speaker 1: from Book of Boba Fett are picked up in this show,
Speaker 1: which of course doesn't match up timeline wise. But there's
Speaker 1: certain things about tattooine, etc. Like references that didn't get
Speaker 1: answered in the Book of Bovette that I think. I
Speaker 1: wonder if we will get answers to those things in
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 3: They're definitely they're definitely in the space of trying to
Speaker 3: make everything really interconnected. So I think that's a really
Speaker 3: good call. Also, I think if anyone wants to do
Speaker 3: some pre reading, I know that we like to do
Speaker 3: that here. So there's this comic series called from the
Speaker 3: Journals of Obi Wan Kenobi, and they have it as
Speaker 3: a trade. You can get it on Comicsology, you can
Speaker 3: get it from your local comic shop. And the costume
Speaker 3: he has here with the big hood over his head
Speaker 3: and everything it's really evocative of that series, and that
Speaker 3: series is kind of him in the desert, just like
Speaker 3: having some adventures helping people out. So I think that
Speaker 3: could kind of be at least an aesthetic inspiration, even
Speaker 3: if it's not a literal narrative one. So I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really exciting. I love you and McGregor.
Speaker 3: I love Benny Saftie, who for some reasons in this
Speaker 3: movie so like in this show. So I'm just like
Speaker 3: so ready to that. I know, unbelievable, unbelievable good time
Speaker 3: to Obi Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 1: I mean, like when we haven't even like Hayden Christensen
Speaker 1: returning as Anakin Skywalker slash Darth Vader. Just I think
Speaker 1: belly Bavia Kumail does he get the shirtless like moment
Speaker 1: in this do we get to see the rippling muscles?
Speaker 1: One of my favorites in Dear Varma, she's so good
Speaker 1: from Game of Thrones, from Rome, from many other things,
Speaker 1: one of my very very favorites. Uh, super super excited
Speaker 1: for this. Next up, Futurama returns on Hulu after runs
Speaker 1: on Fox, reruns on Adult Swim, and a short revival
Speaker 1: at Comedy Central. Futurama the creation of Mac Groning and
Speaker 1: David X. Coullen will return on Hulu for a twenty
Speaker 1: episode run for Beering in twenty twenty three. This is
Speaker 1: important for many reasons, One because Futurama is hilarious, and
Speaker 1: two because our sometime co host Cody zig Ziggler book
Speaker 1: is on the writing seven of the show. And then finally, Rosie,
Speaker 1: what have you been reading? What have you been up
Speaker 1: to any rex for the people before we move on
Speaker 1: to the discussion.
Speaker 3: Yes, I have been reading this book that was on
Speaker 3: my libray'es hold list for a really long time since
Speaker 3: it came out, called Devil House by John Darneil, and
Speaker 3: it is so good. It's like really scary. It's about
Speaker 3: a true crime author who moves into a house that
Speaker 3: where a murder purportedly took place. But it's it's not
Speaker 3: every time you think you know what the book is,
Speaker 3: you don't. It's like an excavation of true crime culture.
Speaker 3: It's an excavation of family seek. It's like it's really meta,
Speaker 3: but it's really engaging, and it looks and feels like
Speaker 3: a classic kind of seventies horror novel, but it's just
Speaker 3: so great, Like I actually had a different book I
Speaker 3: was going to wreck, but I started reading this and
Speaker 3: I was just like, everyone needs to read this. It's
Speaker 3: so gripping and immersive and spooky and very timely with
Speaker 3: all the way that true crime kind of permeates our culture. Now,
Speaker 3: what about you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to put that on my list after I
Speaker 1: finish Andy Weer's Tail Mary, which for anybody that like
Speaker 1: the Martian Andy Where is back in the Martian mode,
Speaker 1: which is like super brilliant scientist is like wow, science
Speaker 1: while dead people are like all around him, and he's
Speaker 1: fine with it because the science is amazing, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what I want from Andywhere. I just finished The
Speaker 1: Absolute Book by Elizabeth Knox. Elizabeth Knox is a New
Speaker 1: Zealand author who worked mainly in fantasy and YA and
Speaker 1: The Absolute Book is like just an incredible blend of
Speaker 1: various mythologies and influences. It's a fantasy novel with aspects
Speaker 1: of like true crime, much like you were talking about.
Speaker 1: There's a murder that sets the ball rolling. There is
Speaker 1: Norse mythology, there's Irish mythology, all blends together in this
Speaker 1: really unique world and take on the fantasy genre with
Speaker 1: undercurrents of like climate change and the state of our
Speaker 1: cultural politics. It's really cool and really well done with
Speaker 1: like the opening of it is really propulsive, and a
Speaker 1: book that I was not sure where it was going
Speaker 1: to go at any given time. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It's long, be warned, it's like seven hundred pages, folks,
Speaker 1: but it was really good. If you're looking for a
Speaker 1: fantasy novel, the absolute book, it's good. Also. I went
Speaker 1: to with our good friend Malory Rubin. I went to
Speaker 1: this rare book fair and Pasadena and picked up a
Speaker 1: first edition Symaranian no Bucks first like seventy bucks. It
Speaker 1: was great. Saw a lot of cool other books like
Speaker 1: all these like super cool like astonishing science, old pulps
Speaker 1: and stuff signed by Ray Bradbury, a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that was just like way too expensive to buy. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing about rare books. The wild stuff is
Speaker 1: like way too expensive, But why isn't it more expensive?
Speaker 1: They had like a first folio Shakespeare from sixteen eighty
Speaker 1: that was like seventy five thousand dollars, Like why is
Speaker 1: that not like five million dollars? I don't understand, But
Speaker 1: that's absolutely fine. They had like a first edition Emma
Speaker 1: by Jane Austen. That was you know, that's like from
Speaker 1: what eighteen fifteen, which was like super expensive also but
Speaker 1: also like not crazy, like like if I was a
Speaker 1: rich guy, I think i'd buy it. It was really
Speaker 1: fun and it was great to hang out.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 1: Next, let's talk Book a Boba Fette finale. All right,
Speaker 1: folks were stepping out of the airlock to dive into
Speaker 1: the finale of the Book of Boba fet titled In
Speaker 1: the Name of Honor, written by Jon Favreau, directed by
Speaker 1: Robert Rodriguez. Let's get into the recap. We open up
Speaker 1: with Boba and Fennick Shand in the ruins of Garca
Speaker 1: Flips Sanctuary Cantina Bells. I guess for a Garca Flip,
Speaker 1: I was holding out hope that maybe she survived, that
Speaker 1: Max Rebo survived, that the other members of the bands
Speaker 1: were but I think everybody might have bought it.
Speaker 3: I'm still saying that Max Rebo was on his day off.
Speaker 3: I will not accept it, but I do feel like
Speaker 3: they've basically returned Max Rebo to his like pre New
Speaker 3: era or continuity where it was like we didn't know
Speaker 3: what was Did he survive the Bodge did you know?
Speaker 3: So I'm taking that doing this, but in my hypecanon,
Speaker 3: he is definitely still alive. I will not.
Speaker 1: I mean, my guy survived the bar, so he has
Speaker 1: survived worse. I hope that he's still out there. Tentative
Speaker 1: bells for Garca whip. Yeah, I'm hoping Max made it.
Speaker 1: Fet worried about the war that is to come, the
Speaker 1: war with the Pikes. It is here. Fet worries that
Speaker 1: the cost of this war is going to fall hardest
Speaker 1: of the citizens of moss Espa. Mando arrives and is like,
Speaker 1: good news, folks, Cob Vanph remember him, and the people
Speaker 1: of Freetown. They're calling it Freetown now, okay, it's no
Speaker 1: longer the moss Pelgos Terrictory is. This is Freetown. Now,
Speaker 1: are coming to our aid there joining the fight, folks.
Speaker 1: It's good news now. Of course, Mando does not know
Speaker 1: that cad Bane wounded, slash killed Cob vmph and certainly
Speaker 1: murdered the Cobb's young deputy just your moments after Dynn left,
Speaker 1: Cop Vance and Vant and his people will do the
Speaker 1: job for free. Mando says, it's kind of free. It's
Speaker 1: free in terms of money, but Boba needs to let
Speaker 1: the people of Freetown shut down the spice straight. That's
Speaker 1: the deal. Shand is like, I don't know. That's like
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and Boba's like, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: In the I know we're going to take an economic
Speaker 1: hit because all of my illegal activity finances are based
Speaker 1: on this, or at least some large amount. But it'll
Speaker 1: work out in the long run. We don't know how,
Speaker 1: but Boba seems confident that it will work out in
Speaker 1: the long run. But still, even with Chrysanton, with the Mods,
Speaker 1: with Finek at his side, Boba's side is outnumbered. They're outnumbered.
Speaker 1: Boba wants to wait out Van's arrival at Joba's palace,
Speaker 1: where you know it's more defensible there. But then scat
Speaker 1: and trash of the Mods are like, okay, coward, go
Speaker 1: hide and you mention away from the people.
Speaker 2: A solidarity with our proletariat brothers demands that we not
Speaker 2: retreat one step from the ruins of moss Espa's premier
Speaker 2: nightclub sanctuary.
Speaker 1: So Boba's like, okay, fine, well we'll meet the foe here.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: This is a terrible idea, terrible, terrible so the ideas
Speaker 1: we're concerned about the citizens of moss Espa, so understanding
Speaker 1: that Boba is the target of this fight, we should
Speaker 1: remain here amongst the people of Mosesba so that the
Speaker 1: battle is closest to the people we are trying to protect.
Speaker 1: Drash I don't think it's a good idea, but you're young,
Speaker 1: and you got that fire and you care about the people,
Speaker 1: so like, let's go with it and just see where
Speaker 1: the chips fall.
Speaker 3: I feel like Boba's going to stop taking as much
Speaker 3: advice from teenagers. And I actually love I love the.
Speaker 1: Mod squad, I love the cool I do love them.
Speaker 3: We had like that's the cyberpunk stuff that we never
Speaker 3: get to see, where people make those choices and that
Speaker 3: makes their lives and those are like cool additions to
Speaker 3: their bodies and the way that they live their life.
Speaker 3: So I love that aspect. But also I'm like, Boba,
Speaker 3: you could have just gone somewhere far away and made
Speaker 3: cat Baane meet you there, so that Mosski would have
Speaker 3: been like, Okay, as we see, this plan does go
Speaker 3: terribly wrong, it goes very.
Speaker 1: Very sideways, but nobody ever really presses Boba on it.
Speaker 1: Later anyway, That night, cad Bane is stalking the streets
Speaker 1: of moss Isley. He arrives at the Pike's headquarters. The
Speaker 1: mayor is there, The mayor of moss Espa is there
Speaker 1: talking with the Pike Captain. Cad reports that Free doown
Speaker 1: will stay neutral, they'll stay out of it, and the
Speaker 1: mayor worries that what about does Fet have any other allies?
Speaker 1: What about the Tuscans? Where when he was with the
Speaker 1: Tuscans for a while. Pike Captain says, Aha, guess what,
Speaker 1: They're all dead and we kill them and Boba Fett
Speaker 1: thinks the NCTO rators did it, and Boba committed genocide
Speaker 1: against the NICKTO rators. So that is I completely that
Speaker 1: that contract has closed. That is completely shut down. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, Boba, We'll never find out. And all
Speaker 1: of that is tied up with a bow. The mayor
Speaker 1: objects to the bombing of garcif whips. The mayor is like, listen,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna be mayor of if you guys
Speaker 1: look just completely destroyed the city, So please stop doing that.
Speaker 1: This is obviously problems since Fet and company are holed
Speaker 1: up in the ruins of Sanctuary and kad says. Cadman says, well, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, I think I know how I can get
Speaker 1: fet out into the open. And to be fair, it's
Speaker 1: not even like a secret plan. It's literally just like
Speaker 1: a walk up and like say some stuff. Anyway, and
Speaker 1: most icley, it's nighttime and x Wing lands at Pelimoto's garage.
Speaker 1: Pelly and her droids leap to attention. They're thinking the
Speaker 1: New Republic POPO were here to raid the joint and
Speaker 1: check their certificates and see if they have the correct documentation.
Speaker 1: But it's actually a Grogu and are two d at
Speaker 1: the wheel of this ship? No cops. Pelly tells R
Speaker 1: Two that Mando is in mos Espa, and then she
Speaker 1: feeds Grogu a massive tray of eels. Grog Who's hungry.
Speaker 3: Grogu's hungry boy and also good. I'm pretty sure this
Speaker 3: is like such a weird, silly strig. But I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure this is like an episode one video game Eastrig
Speaker 3: where I think there's dung worms and she says they're
Speaker 3: dung worms or something like that. I'm sure one of
Speaker 3: our listeners can get me right, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: that it's a it's a really one of those one
Speaker 3: of those things that we've said we liked about this
Speaker 3: show where they're constantly bringing in weird little bits of cannon. So, yes,
Speaker 3: the baby eats some more gross food. This time they
Speaker 3: are eli worms.
Speaker 1: He said, it's just very very hungry growing boy. Back
Speaker 1: in moss Espa, Fennick briefs the leadership. This is a weird,
Speaker 1: very tell don't show scene in which Fennick lays out
Speaker 1: there really not great plan, but again we're going with it.
Speaker 1: This is democracy in action. So the rest of the gangs,
Speaker 1: the Trandoshans, the Aquaalish Plutonians are going to honor their
Speaker 1: packed with fet and stay on the sidelines. Shan says,
Speaker 1: very unconvincingly, the Gomorians are going to go patrol the
Speaker 1: spaceport with like two butcher knives. Chris Hinted is at
Speaker 1: city Hall by himself, and the Mods are gonna be
Speaker 1: with their comrades in the workers district. Everyone is keeping
Speaker 1: an eye out for the Pikes, and I say that
Speaker 1: with not meaning to take a shot at scad as
Speaker 1: you see. Fenix says, all our flanks are covered, no
Speaker 1: one is sneaking up on us. Okay, not the case
Speaker 1: that's whatever, right. Once Cobb Vant and the Freetown people arrive,
Speaker 1: you know, FET will have the numbers and then they'll
Speaker 1: be okay. And then Matt Berry, the voice of eight
Speaker 1: D eight announces in that beautiful, beautiful, silky thick baritone
Speaker 1: that someone is here to speak to and it is
Speaker 1: cad Bane. Of course, Fet and Bane have a long history,
Speaker 1: and we get we get that wonderfully played out here.
Speaker 1: I thought in one of yeah, anytime Cad Bane is
Speaker 1: on the screen and talking to Boba Fet, it is like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is great that we're seeing this. Fet gives Cad
Speaker 1: a version of Leah's I thought, I smelled that foul
Speaker 1: your foul stench kind of line. Bain is like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm here on behalf of the of the pikes. We
Speaker 1: would like to negotiate your surrender. Bobasa is like, no, no, dice,
Speaker 1: you got to clear out, and Cad is like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: guess what. Cob Vance is dead and his people aren't coming.
Speaker 1: You should never have left him without his armor. And
Speaker 1: then Kad's backup appears on the parapets and it's clear
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, Boba is heavily outnumbered with
Speaker 1: no chance of reinforcements, and Cad gives Boba one last
Speaker 1: opportunity let the spice flow, as in Frank Herbert's Dune
Speaker 1: or else. Boba says, no, he's not going to talk
Speaker 1: to the help. He's not gonna talk to Cad Bane,
Speaker 1: who's just like a hired gun. He wants to talk
Speaker 1: to the Pikes. He wants to talk to the Pike
Speaker 1: syndicate leadership, and that's it. Cad then drops that, guess what,
Speaker 1: you want to talk to the Pikes. They're the people
Speaker 1: who killed your Tuscan family. What now? But you didn't
Speaker 1: know that? And this is like a fun callback to
Speaker 1: yet again, a moment from a New Hope in which
Speaker 1: an in is So party is framed for the murder
Speaker 1: of an indigenous tattooing tribe. Boba just knows deep in
Speaker 1: his bones that this is true what Cad is telling him,
Speaker 1: and so Kad says, like, why don't we just duel
Speaker 1: over it. Boba is like, I can take you. He can't,
Speaker 1: He definitely can't. Fennick shand has to come out and
Speaker 1: talk Boba down. Bain is like, you're soft now, you cowered,
Speaker 1: and then he walks away right then Drash Radio is
Speaker 1: in to say something in the Worker's part in the
Speaker 1: Worker's Quarter feels really really weird. And then boom a
Speaker 1: massive ambush that is happening all across town. The Aqualish
Speaker 1: Gangs of the Quarter ambush the Mouds, the Transdosians and
Speaker 1: Bush Chrysantan, which you know really pisses him off, and
Speaker 1: the Clatonians attack the Gomorians. Let me just say this
Speaker 1: about the way Boba and his team outfitted the Gomorians.
Speaker 1: The Gomorians die here spoiler bells for the Gmorian guards.
Speaker 1: They get pushed over a fucking cliff. It is so
Speaker 1: hot breaking and horrible, heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: It just happens. It's just like pow, You're dead.
Speaker 1: The squeal, like the squeal as they fall is terrible. Boba,
Speaker 1: you have your two guards who are incredibly loyal to you.
Speaker 1: You spared their lives, and they are just down for you.
Speaker 1: They'll do They put themselves in massive danger many times
Speaker 1: over the course of the series. They don't have armor.
Speaker 1: They're out there with no shirts on, in shorts, with
Speaker 1: no shoes, and all you give them is like kind
Speaker 1: of big steak knives. In a world in which blasters
Speaker 1: and like various grenades and laser beams are possible, and
Speaker 1: you give them like large knives. They're not cut out
Speaker 1: for this. They're not ready to fight off the attack
Speaker 1: that takes them down. You fail them, Boba, you fail themmorians.
Speaker 3: The coladal damage chair is like, this show has such
Speaker 3: a high body count already, and the coladal damage in
Speaker 3: this episode, You're just like, Wow, this plan was so bad.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I very rare. I understand you were ambushed,
Speaker 3: but I just feel like the number one rule in
Speaker 3: any tactical situation or a horror movie or anything, it's
Speaker 3: like dose PLoP. If you've got a ragtag crew, you're
Speaker 3: not a tacticularly trained group who know these different ways.
Speaker 3: You just some ragtag space folks like you know what,
Speaker 3: Just stick together, guys, don't up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you two take your knives to the spaceport and
Speaker 1: just lock it down. No, that's not gonna work. Boba
Speaker 1: and Shand are completely shook by this ambush and unaware
Speaker 1: is they are shocked at what is happening. The mods
Speaker 1: and Chrisanden can be overrunning at any moment. Vand and
Speaker 1: the Freetowners aren't coming, so Feneck is like, okay, we launch,
Speaker 1: we split up even further. We launch it decapitation strike
Speaker 1: on the Pike leadership on moss Isisley, the major domo
Speaker 1: under duresses like, guess what I know? Where the h
Speaker 1: where the Pike headquarters is. It's the Desert Survey Office
Speaker 1: right there. Shan sets off at a sprint from Mossizley
Speaker 1: and we get that, you know, the moment in Avengers
Speaker 1: marvels the Avengers when it seems like the Jaitari are
Speaker 1: gonna win. We get that moment here. But then Fennick
Speaker 1: Shan badasses the Mods out of trouble. She tells him, listen,
Speaker 1: go to Sanctuary where you should have been anyway, go
Speaker 1: help Boba. At that moment, the Pikes are surrounding the
Speaker 1: burnt out cantina. But luckily it seems like cad Bane
Speaker 1: isn't there. He's out doing why yeah, where is it?
Speaker 1: What is he doing?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: It's popping off, and cad Bane is.
Speaker 5: Like, I'm gonna I'm taking a I'm taking a dump.
Speaker 5: There's nowhere to take a shit out in this entire
Speaker 5: city now that Sanctuary is gone, the only place with
Speaker 5: a public restroom, I'm burying my poop in the desert. Sorry,
Speaker 5: I heard the shots, but I couldn't come because it
Speaker 5: takes me five hours to poop.
Speaker 1: So Boba and Mando are facing down the Pikes from
Speaker 1: the air, flying around as a mandalorian. Din's creed will
Speaker 1: not allow him to leave Boba side. The Majordomo offers
Speaker 1: an alternative to fighting. Perhaps he majored in negotiation in
Speaker 1: college and on coursant, and he is uniquely qualified to
Speaker 1: act as an interlocutor for fet and the Pike. So
Speaker 1: Fete says, okay, go ahead, here's my demands on an iPad.
Speaker 1: Take this out and read it to them. The Domo
Speaker 1: reads the demands of the Pikes, and these are the
Speaker 1: are as follows nothing. You will leave this planet at
Speaker 1: your spice trade. If you refuse these terms, the arid
Speaker 1: sands of Tattooine will once again flourish with flowered fields
Speaker 1: fertilized with the bodies of You're dead. Who knew Bobo
Speaker 1: was a poet? Like this with the literation.
Speaker 3: Literation also one of the few, if not only, times
Speaker 3: that somebody's ever written in live action Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Also like Boba just really typed that out quick, like
Speaker 1: first draft this guy has it.
Speaker 3: He's got the boss, the major demo. Why was he
Speaker 3: surprised by that? He could have just read it before
Speaker 3: he went out there, Like when he starts fading out
Speaker 3: like he's horrified, and I'm just like, my guy, he
Speaker 3: could have just read it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta do that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He's well done.
Speaker 3: And it leads to a very badass fat Mando team up,
Speaker 3: which I think everyone wanted.
Speaker 1: We wanted it, and we got it. They strike from
Speaker 1: the air using their jet packs, are flying around. We
Speaker 1: get the big fight, which is very, very big and
Speaker 1: takes up most of the remaining episode. Side by side,
Speaker 1: Fete and Mando Unlesia, storm of blaster shots, knee rockets,
Speaker 1: wrist rockets, everything at the pikes and the homes and
Speaker 1: businesses of the citizens who Bobo has swore to protect
Speaker 1: and who the Mods were very worried about. Now they're
Speaker 1: fighting like outside of their doorsteps. It's okay. Only the
Speaker 1: best gar is keeping Mando and fet upright long enough
Speaker 1: for the Forces of Freetown to arrive. Oh big surprise,
Speaker 1: the Forces of Freetowner. Here we learned that cob Vans
Speaker 1: is seriously wounded slash, perhaps dead, from his wounds, and
Speaker 1: then the Mods arrive on the scene, followed quickly by
Speaker 1: an enraged Chrysantin who was limping into view. Boba shields
Speaker 1: the limping giant with his own bestcar covered body. The
Speaker 1: Pikes pull back, but they're only pulling back to allow
Speaker 1: for the arrival of a pair of Clone War era
Speaker 1: Scorpiineck annihilator droids. Boba and Mando draw the fire of
Speaker 1: the droids so Santo and the Mods and the freetowners
Speaker 1: can all just like get out of there. They're blasters.
Speaker 1: The Dark Saber even cannot penetrate the annihilator shields. Boba
Speaker 1: flies off to go get something without explaining to Dinjarren
Speaker 1: why he's leaving. He just leaves, which you know, for
Speaker 1: din Jarren, the Mandalorian must be like a dire violation
Speaker 1: of the creed, and you know, din Jarren is like,
Speaker 1: you Fucko.
Speaker 3: He's like, this isn't even my fight, and I am here,
Speaker 3: and you're.
Speaker 1: Like running back to get your keys or some of
Speaker 1: your wallet that you left in Java's mouths, you fuckhad.
Speaker 1: Mando is just like running for his life and he
Speaker 1: runs straight into the waiting arms and open a car
Speaker 1: door of Pelimoto and her droids. They're just like racing
Speaker 1: around the city willy nilly, like trying to avoid getting
Speaker 1: stomped out by these Annihilator droids. And who is in
Speaker 1: the car with Pelimoto? The baby dads are the baby
Speaker 1: and he's wearing the chain mail shirt, and Mando's like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And it is a wonderful moment,
Speaker 1: as every moment with Grogu on the screen is back
Speaker 1: to the fight. Drash says, folks, the annihilators are annihilating us. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true, but we can't fall back any further and
Speaker 1: shouts to Sophie Thatcher's English accent here, because I guess
Speaker 1: like her, her logic is there's no cover if they
Speaker 1: fall back any She knows the neighborhood, and it's like,
Speaker 1: if you fall back any further, there's nowhere to hide, okay.
Speaker 1: So she comes up with a plan, and tell me,
Speaker 1: if you've heard this one before in the context of
Speaker 1: Star Wars, you take the high ground? What about that?
Speaker 3: What about that ogg coming on?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 1: What about that, Rosie? What if we take the high ground?
Speaker 1: The freetowners provide Drash with a sniper rifle and a
Speaker 1: partner and they go to find a rooftop from which
Speaker 1: to snipe. Meanwhile, Mando, Grogo and Pelly are about to
Speaker 1: get blown up. So Boba, in the nick of time,
Speaker 1: arrives on Rancor Back. Now, we had previously heard from
Speaker 1: Boba that it would take a lot of time and
Speaker 1: training to learn to tame the rank Corps and to
Speaker 1: ride it, and apparently that has been taking place off
Speaker 1: screen during this time. And it's fine now because Boba
Speaker 1: can just ride that thing and they are a devastating team.
Speaker 1: There's a brief moment in this that is so good.
Speaker 1: So the fight is going on. The Annihilator droids are
Speaker 1: like blasting everything. The Pikes are in the street shooting,
Speaker 1: shooting at the freetown or shooting at Chrisanden and the mods,
Speaker 1: and this is like a massive gun battle heat Michael
Speaker 1: Mann's Heat level gun battle going on in the middle
Speaker 1: of moss Espa. Right then Bolba arrives on Rancorback and
Speaker 1: we get this shot of the street merchants of moss
Speaker 1: Espo who are like still at their tables looking up
Speaker 1: and being like, oh my god, it's a rink. Why
Speaker 1: are you guys on the street.
Speaker 3: This is why are you there? This is such like
Speaker 3: you can really tell that Favreaux and Madriguez like they're
Speaker 3: really going back to those Western influences on Star Wars
Speaker 3: because they were like what always happens in these kind
Speaker 3: of movies where it's like there's a shootout, and to
Speaker 3: show how bad the shootout is, you need to show
Speaker 3: everyone who's like selling booze or whatever. They're selling things
Speaker 3: on the street and then they run inside and they
Speaker 3: close their windows, you know, and this is that moment
Speaker 3: you're like, guys, they should have happened like ten minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Why were you still outside? Like how it's still alive? Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like a fucking.
Speaker 1: Two Annihilator droids running around in the street and there's
Speaker 1: like a hawker out there like, oh, melons, melons, get
Speaker 1: your water, get your juicy water, providing melons here two
Speaker 1: for three credits. It's like, guys, there's a war going on.
Speaker 1: So the rank Core comes and everybody is like, now
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the final straw. We're running away. Boba
Speaker 1: and his rank Orps are just an incredible destructive force.
Speaker 1: This is really really fun to watch, really really cool.
Speaker 1: Mando ignites the dark saber slips inside an annihilator shield
Speaker 1: manages to slice it up. Then Grogu uses the force
Speaker 1: to lift the droid up, saving Mando's life, but getting
Speaker 1: hit in the chest with a little bolt from the annihilator,
Speaker 1: which sucks. Meanwhile, the Freetowners, the Mods and Crysantan are
Speaker 1: holding up in this like a little alley, and Drash
Speaker 1: and her freetown partner now are sniping from a roof.
Speaker 1: They're holding the pikes off long enough for Boba in
Speaker 1: the Rank Corps to finally destroy one of these annihilators.
Speaker 1: Then cad Baine shows up, showing a real veteran savvy. Here,
Speaker 1: cad Bane hits the rank or in the face with
Speaker 1: flames from his wrist unit, which really bothers the Rank Corps.
Speaker 1: Boba and cad have their showdown. Boba insists that he's
Speaker 1: fighting to protect the people of mos Espa. He's learned
Speaker 1: the value of teamwork and a tribe. This former loaner
Speaker 1: has come full circle in his emotional growth. Boba has
Speaker 1: the absolute gall as like a sixty year old man
Speaker 1: clone to call cad Bane old. Cad Baane is then
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna beat your ass, and then He draws
Speaker 1: Boba and proceeds to beat his ass. But then Boba,
Speaker 1: calling on his Tuscan experience and the expertise that he
Speaker 1: gained as a member of that Tusk tribe, kills Cadbane
Speaker 1: with the score point of his gaffy stick. Bells for Cadbane.
Speaker 1: One of the great shocking moment to lose Cadbane. Here,
Speaker 1: Boba's pet Rank Corps, enraged by like all the things
Speaker 1: that have happened, goes rampaging across moss espa Din sees
Speaker 1: that the beast, now in full King Kong mode, even
Speaker 1: to the point of like climbing a tower, is afraid
Speaker 1: and everybody shooting at it is not really helping, So
Speaker 1: he flies onto the ranker's back and Bronco billy style.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I'm gonna ride this fucking bronc and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tame it. No, that does a work. He
Speaker 1: gets thrown across the city at his force to use
Speaker 1: a flamethrower to keep the Rank Corps from like eating
Speaker 1: his head. Mando quickly enters concussion protocol. After getting like
Speaker 1: thrown through a wall, Grogu steps up and uses the
Speaker 1: force to basically Natasha the Rank Corps. Hey, big guy,
Speaker 1: the sun's getting real low. The forces with me and
Speaker 1: go go to bed. The Ranker and Grog go to
Speaker 1: take a long winter. Snap shand arrives in moss Iley
Speaker 1: near the spiked heads of the stormtroopers at the Desert
Speaker 1: Survey Office, and she wipes out the Pike leadership with ease,
Speaker 1: even going so far as to lynch the fucking mayor
Speaker 1: of Mosses.
Speaker 3: She does that fast too. She's like, pow, this is
Speaker 3: what happened to him. You see what's gonna happen to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was not prepared. Listen, I get it.
Speaker 1: The mayor is dirty, the mayor is corrupt. You got no,
Speaker 1: you have no objection from me on that account. But
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for Fedikshd to lynch a elected official.
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in this thing as well, because, like
Speaker 3: you know, I know, we'll talk about it more, but
Speaker 3: like it's very interesting to see Boba exploring this more
Speaker 3: familial like were all this soft that he wants to
Speaker 3: be a good gangstuff. But the real reason he's been
Speaker 3: able to keep power is because Fenic is brutal and
Speaker 3: phenick like knows what needs to be done. So this
Speaker 3: is like a really interesting way to essentially like end
Speaker 3: this part of the story.
Speaker 1: Fennick is an extreme badass, as we get to see
Speaker 1: in these scenes later, mass Espa is at peace. Folks,
Speaker 1: all the all the fighting.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna rebuild all the buildings rancor destroyed? They're like
Speaker 3: they're just chilling.
Speaker 1: They're like, that's on Boba now as Daimyo the mayor reason,
Speaker 1: the mayor of bas Esma is dead. We won't talk
Speaker 1: about how that happened, but you know, like I'm sure
Speaker 1: not a lot of people are gonna know that Fedi
Speaker 1: should which the mayor, but they just play it on
Speaker 1: the pikes. They're gonna they're gonna look to Boba fet
Speaker 1: now to rebuild. He and Shan, Chrysanta and the Mons
Speaker 1: are now firmly in controlling moss app Espa under the
Speaker 1: now peaceful twin Tattooine sons, Din and Grogo meanwhile fly
Speaker 1: off world to have their further adventures. Dinn is an
Speaker 1: unbelievable pushover when it comes.
Speaker 3: He's he's not chi pusher, but like he's just been
Speaker 3: waiting to get told what to do by the baby.
Speaker 1: I know he's like tries to pretend like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough, like, no, no, I'm not gonna what No,
Speaker 1: stop tapping on your glass dome. No, okay, fine, And
Speaker 1: then he goes to light speed or hyper speed or.
Speaker 3: The baby just wants to go into hyper space.
Speaker 1: Because the baby loves to go fast. And then we
Speaker 1: get our stinger, which is Cob Vance stewing in Bulba's
Speaker 1: back to Tank and over overwatched by the Modifying Man
Speaker 1: aka Thundercat, who is preparing to make Cob Van f
Speaker 1: a some sort of cyber RoboCop. I was hoping that
Speaker 1: we would get more. Yes, producer Saul brings up something interesting,
Speaker 1: which is like, why wasn't wasn't Chriysantin gonna take a
Speaker 1: take a take a spin in the back to Tank.
Speaker 1: My only thought there is Chris Sanden, Like, we don't
Speaker 1: know that book He's have a healing factor, But Chrisanden
Speaker 1: shrugs off some pretty serious wounds without a back that
Speaker 1: think like routinely that happens all the time with him.
Speaker 3: I also think that they specifically had Boba say that
Speaker 3: to him so that when we saw this singer we
Speaker 3: would assume it was Chrisanton and then be shocked when
Speaker 3: it was called Van three. We thought was dead.
Speaker 1: When we're back morebet, we're back. Let's talk about this finale.
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an action you know what, It's an
Speaker 3: action episode. They actually kind of took a little bit
Speaker 3: more from the prestige TV set up, especially Game of Thrones,
Speaker 3: where you have your big episodes in like the two
Speaker 3: last episodes, and then the finale is like the kind
Speaker 3: of fallout episodes. So that that I think is interesting
Speaker 3: because this is very different to a lot of Prestige TV.
Speaker 3: It's much more serialized, Flashcoordon esque storytelling, the kind of
Speaker 3: stuff that inspired original Star Wars. I like all the action,
Speaker 3: I like all the characters, so I was fine with it.
Speaker 3: It definitely it's tough because we all know that the
Speaker 3: Mandalorian and Grogu's stuff is very moving and it gives
Speaker 3: that emotional heart, and I think for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: the last two episodes were really powerful for that reason,
Speaker 3: and because they put Boba back into that kind of mysterious,
Speaker 3: enigmatic cameo that he'd been that had worked so well.
Speaker 3: So I think this was like a little bit more
Speaker 3: of a kind of messy mash up, but like, I
Speaker 3: also like seeing people shooting each.
Speaker 1: Other and monsters in the desert, so I'm like cool,
Speaker 1: I also love that listen. I love Boba riding a
Speaker 1: rank corps. I love a great big gun battle. I
Speaker 1: was a little here's the thing that I wonder the
Speaker 1: easter eggs that was in the reference that was like
Speaker 1: dropped multiple times of the course of the series, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we're gonna get an answer to this.
Speaker 1: The multiple references to Tattooine having an ocean in its
Speaker 1: ancient past. I thought for sure that was going to
Speaker 1: play into the climax of the show somehow, And I
Speaker 1: wonder if we won't get something like that in the
Speaker 1: Obi Wan show. I wonder in connection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this definitely feels to me like it is a
Speaker 3: really really fun kind of diversion and it is really
Speaker 3: less about the we talked about this in pre pro
Speaker 3: but like it's about expansion rather than like pushing things
Speaker 3: narratively forward. So I think all of that, even like
Speaker 3: Boba's little poem about the lush, you know, plants of
Speaker 3: Tattooine and stuff, they're talking a lot about these different
Speaker 3: eras of Tattooine, how it looked, how so that I
Speaker 3: feel like that a lot of what happened here was
Speaker 3: sowing seeds and introducing stuff that might not have been
Speaker 3: known to people who haven't read the books or watched
Speaker 3: the cartoons and stuff like that, so that when it
Speaker 3: does come into Obi Wan or Mandalorian season three, they'll
Speaker 3: be like, Oh, I remember that from Boba Fair or
Speaker 3: that's so. I feel like that this will be a
Speaker 3: series where a lot of people, when they're watching whatever
Speaker 3: the next things, are going to be coming back to
Speaker 3: and looking at those moments or quoting those teasers and
Speaker 3: easter eggs that seem to be building to something that
Speaker 3: when we watch it, we'll go, oh, that's what it
Speaker 3: was about. Oh that's how we got here.
Speaker 1: Do you think we get a book above at season
Speaker 1: two or are we gonna like I don't think it's
Speaker 1: something about you don't think so? You know, I think
Speaker 1: just like a tattooine, like a mass Espa Stories kind
Speaker 1: of anthology.
Speaker 3: I think it would be more like that. I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily think it would be called the Book of Bobaffet.
Speaker 3: It might be something about. It might be a Feni
Speaker 3: Shan spin off. It could be a mod Squad spin off.
Speaker 3: It could. I think it's more likely that The Mandalorian
Speaker 3: is our narrative kind of thrust the series that everything
Speaker 3: else is tied to, and I feel like these things
Speaker 3: that are building out the world, it's almost like the
Speaker 3: expanded Universe. Maybe we would get another series of Bobaffett,
Speaker 3: but I don't think it's gonna The Mandalorian could really
Speaker 3: go on for as many seasons as they want it to.
Speaker 3: It's that kind of It's the Star Wars show, and
Speaker 3: I think these other ones are sort of like little
Speaker 3: stops on the wider map of the galaxy to explain
Speaker 3: like stuff that we learned about mass Espa and the
Speaker 3: politics of it and the way that it's established. Now,
Speaker 3: we will go back to that in the Mandlor in
Speaker 3: season three, no question, Like we are going to meet
Speaker 3: these characters, We're gonna see Black chrisanitin, We're gonna understand
Speaker 3: more because of what we saw here. But I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily know if the plan is for us to come
Speaker 3: back and directly continue this story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's interesting. I am really intrigued to know,
Speaker 1: you know how the Boba Fette Daimyo project goes, He's
Speaker 1: he's cut himself off from a major source of income
Speaker 1: that the that the business, the elite illicit business that
Speaker 1: he inherited from a Jaba depended on in large part,
Speaker 1: and now he's not going to have that. But he's
Speaker 1: also set himself up as someone who's going to support
Speaker 1: and defend the people of mass Espa and me in
Speaker 1: a way that maybe they've they've never had before. So
Speaker 1: I would like to see more, But yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: how they would do it. Thinking about the way that
Speaker 1: this show really became like the Mandalorian season two and
Speaker 1: a half, as many have noted, I do wonder if
Speaker 1: the feeling isn't we've done our Boba Fett thing. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? By the way, a lot
Speaker 1: of people criticize the show because they're like, oh, Boba
Speaker 1: Fett is so boring as a character, is bringing Mandalorian
Speaker 1: and you know, other sorts of criticism like that, which
Speaker 1: I think are fair from a certain perspective, but also like, obviously,
Speaker 1: I as a human being, I'm in the tank for
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I'm a Star Wars fan. I love my shit.
Speaker 1: That said, it feels like a weird criticism to me,
Speaker 1: because like, don't you those were when Mando came in
Speaker 1: as a story really took off. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and criticize what I think is a really
Speaker 1: unique and interesting creative decision just because it's like, doesn't
Speaker 1: vib necessarily with the title of the show. What did
Speaker 1: you think of that?
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting. I think I think we
Speaker 3: kind of touched on it last week. Like my main
Speaker 3: thought about it, which is basically, I think it's really
Speaker 3: hard to make a show about someone like Boba Fett,
Speaker 3: who's essentially an Avatar character because everyone's just seen they
Speaker 3: can imagine all the cool things he does, and you
Speaker 3: don't really have any confirmation of that within any canon
Speaker 3: except for the expanded canon, and even there it's rare,
Speaker 3: so trying and expand him on a live action is
Speaker 3: never going to sit well with everyone. But I actually
Speaker 3: I like this reversion to this stuff that when The
Speaker 3: Man Laurin came out, a lot of people thought it
Speaker 3: was quite boring until the end of the first season.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true, and I the first few episodes were
Speaker 1: people does anything happen here? Like anything?
Speaker 3: I think, like for me, I can understand why Jon
Speaker 3: Favreau and Rob Rodriguez, Dave Filoni these are the stories
Speaker 3: they want to tell because these are the same kinds
Speaker 3: of stories that inspired Star Wars. So it's the Flashbordon serializations.
Speaker 3: It's the kind of like Batman sixty six, like what's
Speaker 3: going to happen next? But it doesn't have to be
Speaker 3: a that's going to happen next in the scale of
Speaker 3: the galaxy. It's what's going to happen next with this
Speaker 3: funny creature who owe you some money? And also, something
Speaker 3: that you touched on that I thought is actually really
Speaker 3: interesting that we haven't really talked about is in a
Speaker 3: way this goes back to one of the oldest Star
Speaker 3: Wars criticisms of all time. That's also one of the
Speaker 3: things that certain Star Wars fans love the most, which
Speaker 3: is the concept of kind of bureaucracy and politics like
Speaker 3: that is what George Lucas wanted to explore in the prequels,
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely, and in this way, something that I
Speaker 3: think is really interesting that Boba Fett reflects of that
Speaker 3: kind of legacy of Star Wars is the idea of
Speaker 3: like what happens when that bureaucracy isn't there? And how
Speaker 3: can somebody kind of try and make a better space
Speaker 3: in the galaxy, which is what all of Star Wars
Speaker 3: is about.
Speaker 1: How do we govern this uncoverable like so.
Speaker 3: When you've never had a good like kind of road
Speaker 3: map for that, and something I kind of think is
Speaker 3: funny a criticism as people are like why is Boba
Speaker 3: so bad at being a gangster because because he's never
Speaker 3: been one before? In that way, I kind of think
Speaker 3: that it's actually an interesting exploration, and I definitely I
Speaker 3: always want to see more sort of radical imagination brought
Speaker 3: to these stories that we see about, like the worlds
Speaker 3: we could live in or the ways they could be governed.
Speaker 3: So I actually think there's something really interesting about a
Speaker 3: community governance kind of focus on this of like how
Speaker 3: can we make things happen without really having a hierarchy,
Speaker 3: and and how can Boba give back to these kids
Speaker 3: and these people on mos Essper who are the reason
Speaker 3: that he's still alive and the reason he has this power.
Speaker 3: That actually is interesting to me, and I very much
Speaker 3: think that it reflects things that have gone before in
Speaker 3: Star Wars, these ideas of governance and rebuilding, And in
Speaker 3: that way, I think it would be really cool to
Speaker 3: see it explored more. But I definitely feel like the
Speaker 3: Bottle episode nature of like having the mandluriing come back
Speaker 3: in it being Mad Laurian episodes. I think that might
Speaker 3: be the future of this world, might be ball episodes
Speaker 3: in other shows returning back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean certainly if you look at Clone Wars,
Speaker 1: that was kind of the model. There'd be like three
Speaker 1: three episode arc here, two episode arc here, but it
Speaker 1: was a lot of kind of like Adventure of the
Speaker 1: Week stuff, So I would not be surprised to see that.
Speaker 1: It's something you said about governance and about the way
Speaker 1: Boba is, you know, cooperating, is collaborating with the Mods
Speaker 1: and with other people really made me think about how
Speaker 1: this was like one of the more overtly class conscious
Speaker 1: I dream about it a lot in the recap, but
Speaker 1: overtly class conscious Star Wars stories I think I've ever encountered,
Speaker 1: with the Mods really pushing that argument of you've got
Speaker 1: to understand what's happening to the people here on the
Speaker 1: street level of Mossas, but who don't have opportunities, who
Speaker 1: don't get to, you know, retire to a massive fortified
Speaker 1: palace with a with a you know, free back the
Speaker 1: tank in the bedroom, Like you've got to understand what
Speaker 1: the actual people are going through, And that was a
Speaker 1: large part of the finale, even to the point of
Speaker 1: it was semi comical, but like the part where the
Speaker 1: Freetowners the drashes like Freetown partner, they have this little
Speaker 1: back and forth about oh, the city versus Freetown more
Speaker 1: like country. Meanwhile, it's like, you know, Freetown looks exactly
Speaker 1: the same as Massa. It might be a little bit smaller,
Speaker 1: but you all live in the desert like an out
Speaker 1: of the way, you know, let it. But that was
Speaker 1: fascinating to see that kind of play out, the ideas
Speaker 1: of like city versus country and and different class conflicts
Speaker 1: within Star Wars.
Speaker 3: I actually think that's really interesting and probably a reason
Speaker 3: why me and you have had more favorable reaction to
Speaker 3: this is I think as we dig into it, it's
Speaker 3: actually touching on a lot of stuff that we loved
Speaker 3: from the last Jedi, which I know is like we
Speaker 3: always says a divisive movie. It's like some people love it,
Speaker 3: some people hate it. There's very reasonable criticisms on each side.
Speaker 3: But for me, it's like there's a lot about that
Speaker 3: movie that I love, like Justice for Finn. I truly
Speaker 3: believe he's a Jedi. It's my one critique. But otherwise,
Speaker 3: like there's a lot about that movie I love. And
Speaker 3: the end of that movie has that massive, like kind
Speaker 3: of class statement of like everyone can use the force,
Speaker 3: that you do not have to be an elitist, bloodline,
Speaker 3: legacy family, you do not have to have been trained
Speaker 3: from birth as a child soldier. By this like ex
Speaker 3: cult of like kind of one percent is you can
Speaker 3: literally just be a kid with a broom who's in
Speaker 3: indentured servitude and you can use the force. And I
Speaker 3: kind of I love that was This kind of accessibility
Speaker 3: democratization of the force was so exciting to me. So
Speaker 3: I actually think that bringing those seeds of class conversation
Speaker 3: and class consciousness into this kind of more ground level
Speaker 3: Western no magical force whatever, but like, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's actually part of the reason why they're exploring some
Speaker 3: stuff there that I think Star Wars is really ripe
Speaker 3: ground for. And I think that in that way, even
Speaker 3: if it's been a little bit clunky for some people,
Speaker 3: or it's.
Speaker 1: Always its star, it's always going to be kind of clunky.
Speaker 3: And I think as well, that's something else we we've
Speaker 3: kind of talked about before, you know, we've recorded, but like,
Speaker 3: it's a really strange space to be in when a
Speaker 3: movie that was made and expected to be a flop
Speaker 3: and was allowed to have for creative creative freedom that
Speaker 3: when you watch it now with my new hope obviously
Speaker 3: is just got a lot of janky effects and all
Speaker 3: this kind of like it's it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's an old movie that was made with practical effects
Speaker 3: that looks a certain way and has always been a
Speaker 3: bit clunky space.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: That's the point of it. That's and so to have
Speaker 3: gone on this journey over all these decades and ended
Speaker 3: up in a space where it's now owned by this
Speaker 3: huge corporation and not just that, but it's now creating
Speaker 3: art that is put up against prestige TV. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that is a lot of where these not even
Speaker 3: necessarily critiques, but maybe people's kind of confusion about oh,
Speaker 3: what they're wanting for the show or or how they
Speaker 3: feel like it should fit into this space. Is it
Speaker 3: really comes from the fact that this is essentially like
Speaker 3: a B movie that has like become this huge cultural
Speaker 3: zeitgeist force. And in that way, it's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: the conversations are gonna be a little bit clunky, Like
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some funny cg that maybe doesn't fit,
Speaker 3: or there's gonna be like a funny accent or something
Speaker 3: that's kind of what Star Wars is.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a big battle, a climactic battle that
Speaker 1: takes place specifically because characters make.
Speaker 6: A series.
Speaker 1: That don't make any sense but are necessary for this big,
Speaker 1: really fun battle to take place. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I think they're Listen, We're in a moment now where
Speaker 1: nerd culture, for lack of a of a better, you know,
Speaker 1: more artful term, is kind of like the dominant storytelling
Speaker 1: mode in movies and television, certainly in the discourse, the
Speaker 1: internet centric discourse around pop culture. And I think that
Speaker 1: that is again like you and I are in the
Speaker 1: tank for this stuff. Like I'm a you know, lifelong
Speaker 1: comic fan, lifelong Star Wars fan. This is the moment
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for all my life to talk about
Speaker 1: all of this. But I think if this was not
Speaker 1: your thing, or if you were just like like a
Speaker 1: lot of people who were just like kind of like
Speaker 1: casually into Star Wars, casually into comics, and then you
Speaker 1: moved on with your life and grew up to it,
Speaker 1: you know. For lack of again, for lack of a
Speaker 1: better term, I think that there is probably one something
Speaker 1: anxiety of like, God, is this what the world is?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: I have to talk about this stuff now?
Speaker 2: Like this is it?
Speaker 1: If I want to commune with people about a movie
Speaker 1: or about TV. It's like I have to talk about
Speaker 1: this and not the Sopranos. And I get that, if
Speaker 1: you know. And I think also there is the way
Speaker 1: these stories are told are kind of not like the
Speaker 1: way TV and movies have unfolded in the past. There's
Speaker 1: different needs that are serviced. There is a different type
Speaker 1: of engagement with the fan base. There's a like more
Speaker 1: of a two way communication, less of an authorial kind
Speaker 1: of we will tell you what the story is and
Speaker 1: at least an awareness of what the fans want and desire.
Speaker 1: That makes it a more kind of like two way conversation.
Speaker 1: And I think that is uncomfortable for audiences and or
Speaker 1: critics who are not you know, naturally either naturally versed
Speaker 1: in this subject matter or who just don't like it,
Speaker 1: ye are not fans of it.
Speaker 3: I also think that's a really interesting point that you
Speaker 3: made about the two Day conversation because something that I
Speaker 3: think about a lot, and this definitely occurs in Star Wars,
Speaker 3: but especially in comics, a lot of what we know
Speaker 3: in the world of Marvel and DC is actually defined
Speaker 3: by fans and not because of not because of like
Speaker 3: internet campaigns or whatever. I'm talking about decades ago, like
Speaker 3: people talk about, We've talked about the multiverse a lot.
Speaker 3: So anyone listening has probably heard of the term Marvel
Speaker 3: six one six, right, and that's kind of seen as
Speaker 3: the main Marvel comics timeline, and we've heard it referenced
Speaker 3: in the movies. That was put in a comic many
Speaker 3: years ago by Alan Moore, But it was fans who decided,
Speaker 3: via forums and conversations and conventions, they made that the
Speaker 3: accepted term, to the point where Marvel used to say,
Speaker 3: please please, that's not the real term. The six one
Speaker 3: six doesn't exist. And then because of years of fans
Speaker 3: doing this, talking about it a certain way, and that
Speaker 3: becoming the sort of accept colloquialism for it, it then
Speaker 3: becomes canon and it's put in a Marvel movie as
Speaker 3: a sort of nod and all these different things. So
Speaker 3: in that way, those conversations really do happen because and
Speaker 3: I think Star Wars speaks to this a lot, because
Speaker 3: of the lulls, like when there wasn't a Star Wars
Speaker 3: movie for ten years. You know, the things that keep
Speaker 3: it going are fans who go to conventions. It's people
Speaker 3: like Mark Hamill who will go and keep the kind
Speaker 3: of fire of it alive and the love for it.
Speaker 3: And in that way, I think that makes it much
Speaker 3: more of a two way conversation, and that is very
Speaker 3: different to a lot of other ways that art is created,
Speaker 3: even though that passion is very shared. Like the reason
Speaker 3: that certain art house films and directors are famous and
Speaker 3: are popular and become part of the cultural lexicon is
Speaker 3: because of the people who love those movies. So in
Speaker 3: that way, it's actually very similar. But that ongoing conversation
Speaker 3: between the people who create comic books and Star Wars
Speaker 3: and is kind of what is now seen as like
Speaker 3: populist are and was before seen as like nerd stuff.
Speaker 3: That is that's such a good care because that is
Speaker 3: such a unique, specific way of interacting, and it's also
Speaker 3: completely fine if people are like I have no interest
Speaker 3: in that, Yeah, Like I don't want to be a
Speaker 3: part of that. I think a lot about Wonder Vision, right.
Speaker 3: I loved that show.
Speaker 1: It was like everything.
Speaker 3: It was everything that I could have ever wanted because
Speaker 3: it was based on these really weird eighties comics that
Speaker 3: I love. It was these weird characters. It was this
Speaker 3: tragic romance. But I think so much about that show
Speaker 3: where if you are just a casual TV viewer, even
Speaker 3: if you've watched the MCU movies, if you watch that show,
Speaker 3: I just can't even fathom how inaccessible it must have been.
Speaker 1: For some people.
Speaker 3: And I think about that a lot, like I think
Speaker 3: there can be TV for all kinds of people, but
Speaker 3: I can also understand how people can become frustrated when
Speaker 3: the most popular pop culture things of TV and film
Speaker 3: can be very inaccessible to a casual viewer in a
Speaker 3: way that certain things haven't been before.
Speaker 1: There's an interesting conversation going along these lines right now
Speaker 1: with the Oscars, the Oscar nominations for released. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna go into that, but you see a lot of
Speaker 1: like Richard Brodie's column in The New Yorker talked about
Speaker 1: how there is a discussion of, oh, you know, should
Speaker 1: Spiderman No Way Home be nominated somehow to raise the
Speaker 1: ratings for this Oscar telecast? Wouldn't that connect cinema more
Speaker 1: with the kind of like populist urges that really the
Speaker 1: art form was built on in its early decades. And
Speaker 1: I listen, I love spider I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: not I'm nominated for an Oscar. I don't believe you know,
Speaker 1: it's not to me. Do I think about it as
Speaker 1: an Oscar movie?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to this kind of like
Speaker 1: underlying anxiety that is out there amongst critics and some
Speaker 1: people who make movies and then television of like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, is this just when is this going to
Speaker 1: be over? Is this just like what the world is
Speaker 1: like now? Like we're just gonna have to talk about
Speaker 1: Spider Man all the time. You know, maybe I feel
Speaker 1: bad for the people who are again are not fans
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you raise a really good point, because earlier you
Speaker 3: talked about like the discourse as we call it. You know,
Speaker 3: I think the Internet and the way, you know, so
Speaker 3: many things are digital. Now we just heard the terrible
Speaker 3: news that EW is going to be out of print,
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred jobs lost and all that. So
Speaker 3: that's happening more and more. So the internet has this
Speaker 3: extra kind of shine. It controls a lot of the conversations.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is, like we've talked about this
Speaker 3: in pre pro Our, producer Saul has made the most
Speaker 3: incredible list that I'm about to reference. But like, the
Speaker 3: funny thing is, like superheroes, comic books, this stuff has
Speaker 3: been a cultural staple for decades. Yes, Max Flice's first
Speaker 3: Superman cartoon, Uh just want to say, don't be going
Speaker 3: and seeking those out on this recommendation because they are
Speaker 3: very racist. But it was nominated for Best Short Subject Cartoons,
Speaker 3: The Original Superman Movie, Batman eighty nine, Dick Tracy, Ghost World,
Speaker 3: History of Violence, Dark Knight, Logan Joker. Like, there are
Speaker 3: many many movies that have been recognized by the oscars,
Speaker 3: and there are many comic books that have been adapted
Speaker 3: and being seen critically as valuable forms of art. I
Speaker 3: think that the way that the Internet is and the
Speaker 3: way that we are experiencing these movies a lot of
Speaker 3: times because of the way that MCU is highlighting things
Speaker 3: like Easter eggs, needing to make people want to read
Speaker 3: the comics, which to me is so exciting because I
Speaker 3: want people to read comics and I want them to
Speaker 3: love comics and understand where these stories come from. But
Speaker 3: I think that is where it becomes overwhelming for some people,
Speaker 3: where it feels like that is the only thing that
Speaker 3: is being talked about because that's what we're writing about.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's most of my job, and I feel
Speaker 3: lucky every day. I thank people who listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3: I thank people who love this stuff because, like you said,
Speaker 3: we've been preparing for this our whole life, and we
Speaker 3: never knew it would be able to be something we
Speaker 3: could live doing to talk about these things that we
Speaker 3: love and to revisit them. You know, I'm doing a
Speaker 3: lot of coverage in the lead up to The Batman,
Speaker 3: and I'm getting to kind of go and read a
Speaker 3: twelve issue AREK and do a big excavation of what
Speaker 3: worked about it, what do I like about it? Speaking
Speaker 3: about Jimley and his incredible art, you know, that's so brilliant.
Speaker 3: But I can definitely understand how in a world where
Speaker 3: previously a lot of the things that got to have
Speaker 3: that level of in depth excavation and exploration and theorizing
Speaker 3: and talking on what kind of what people would see
Speaker 3: as high art. I can understand how it can be
Speaker 3: a bit of a juxta, a kind of strange jarring juxtaposition.
Speaker 1: Finally, let's any predictions for either Boba and Fennick as
Speaker 1: characters or in the ongoing story of a potential book
Speaker 1: of Boba Vet season two, or even how this dovetails
Speaker 1: into the Mandalorian. I'm struck by listening to the size
Speaker 1: of the N one Starfighter tells me that Dnjar in
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian is not going to be bounty hunting anytime soon.
Speaker 1: There is just not There's barely any space in there.
Speaker 1: So we're going to see I think a lot of
Speaker 1: Monster of the Week slash Adventure of the Week kind
Speaker 1: of stories, is my guest, But any theories as we
Speaker 1: go forward, I.
Speaker 3: Totally agree with you on that. I think that we're
Speaker 3: going to continue this conversation between the Mandalorian and the
Speaker 3: Jedi way because the truth is that sure Grogu picked
Speaker 3: being a Mandalorian, good choice, love that for the baby
Speaker 3: happy that was the right choice, but he is definitely
Speaker 3: going to get his hands on that the.
Speaker 1: Baby. I love it.
Speaker 3: I love Herzog so much talking about our high art
Speaker 3: low art conversation. So having him in the Mandalorian. I
Speaker 3: talk about the baby all the time, and I always
Speaker 3: feel like Verna when I say out.
Speaker 1: There is the baby.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see the baby like I would like
Speaker 3: to see it. But I think that people are gonna
Speaker 3: Grogu is this mysterious race. He's force, powerful being. People
Speaker 3: are not going to leave him alone just because he
Speaker 3: chose the man glory in way, and I think that
Speaker 3: that is going to be our big conflict going forward.
Speaker 3: People who want to understand the Force, people who are Jedis,
Speaker 3: who believe that actually he should be with the Jedi.
Speaker 3: They don't care what he picked. It's not really a choice.
Speaker 3: It's a legacy. It's like something you have to do.
Speaker 3: It's a duty, you know. So I think that's it.
Speaker 3: I also think they just wanted to have him in
Speaker 3: that cool and the boosta fighter.
Speaker 1: I know it looks so cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I think that for Boba Fenik, the
Speaker 3: mod Squad, all of whom I really really do care about.
Speaker 3: I love soft Boba like that works for me. I
Speaker 3: love creature work. I love animals, so that connection works.
Speaker 3: But I think that's bottle episode appearances. I think we
Speaker 3: see different versions of them going forward. Maybe we see
Speaker 3: younger versions, maybe we see older I think a lot
Speaker 3: of what we're seeing now is seeding this generally expansive
Speaker 3: vision of how we can see people come in and
Speaker 3: out stories again, just like we've seen them do in
Speaker 3: this series with stuff from the animated universe.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I threw my olive branch to the
Speaker 1: to the folks, to the critics and the people who
Speaker 1: don't like Star Wars and or comics, and now I'm
Speaker 1: going to make them mad with this reference. I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised to see a book of Boba Fete
Speaker 1: season two that was kind of like season two of
Speaker 1: The Wire. Sorry I'm saying that just to make a
Speaker 1: critic matter, but you know where we get where it's
Speaker 1: not listen already. Season one was uncomfortable being purely Boba focused, right,
Speaker 1: So I think that that focus even widens out further.
Speaker 1: I would pitch a type of show that follows the
Speaker 1: mods for certain stories, that follows Boba, for certain stories
Speaker 1: that follows Fennick, for certain stories that follows the people
Speaker 1: in Freetown for certain stories, and is about them building
Speaker 1: a community from the ground up, creating this tribe, and
Speaker 1: we follow the members of that tribe from story to story,
Speaker 1: not necessarily focused on any one character. The book of
Speaker 1: Boba Fet then is like an anthology series where the
Speaker 1: character in the main is moss Espa and the surrounding
Speaker 1: areas as it as the people here struggle to build
Speaker 1: their own story, to write their own story independent of
Speaker 1: interference from the Pike Syndicate or anyone else from the outside.
Speaker 1: I think we'll see something like that if we get
Speaker 1: a Boba Fet season two, not just focused on Boba Fet,
Speaker 1: and then for the Mandalorian I agree with you, We're
Speaker 1: getting into the real meat now, this kind of struggle
Speaker 1: between the Mandalorian cultural influence and the Jedi cultural influence
Speaker 1: on Grogu and how Dinjarren can either remain respectful of
Speaker 1: that or seek to influence that. I think that you
Speaker 1: mentioned like obviously Grogu chose the chainmail, and Luke was
Speaker 1: apparently so pissed that he couldn't even fly Grogus like
Speaker 1: you behaved. Yeah, are two you go fly a back.
Speaker 1: I'm not dealing. I'm sick of this ship. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and just watch my droids build the time
Speaker 1: to kill and a stone by stone. I'm pissed, but
Speaker 1: I think that that struggle will continue. And as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, Grogu chose a chain mail, but is also
Speaker 1: using the force and using it with more skill and
Speaker 1: ability than than we've seen in the past. His powers
Speaker 1: are growing, his ability to call on them and growing.
Speaker 1: His comfort level with himself as a user of the
Speaker 1: force is growing, his confidence is growing. So I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see that more. You know, Listen, Grogu, we
Speaker 1: can't say it enough. He's still a baby. He's a
Speaker 1: growing baby who wants to eat, eat, eat, eat, and
Speaker 1: eat and play with shiny things. And as his ability
Speaker 1: to use the force grows, will his How does that
Speaker 1: interact with his child like nature?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: Like? Does his wisdom grow to meet that? And I
Speaker 1: this is the part of the story that I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for and I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3: Told lest we not forget, this baby was choke forcing
Speaker 3: people like he was using the dark side. He was
Speaker 3: using the dark side, and Luke doesn't seem to know
Speaker 3: about that. Slash didn't necessarily teach him though we were
Speaker 3: speaking to the more duality, almost like a gray Jedi
Speaker 3: kind of version of Luke that we see at the
Speaker 3: end of Jedi. But yeah, I'm really interested, and I
Speaker 3: definitely think you're onto something like Dave Filoni, Robert Rodriguez,
Speaker 3: Jon Favreau. They love this serialized storytelling. They love these
Speaker 3: adventure of the week stories. They love these little arcs
Speaker 3: that they perfected, you know, especially Dave Filoni in the cartoons.
Speaker 3: So why not have Boba Fett and Book of Bobafette,
Speaker 3: you know, pointed out it's called book. It's literally stories.
Speaker 3: You can do different stories. So I think that that's
Speaker 3: a really good call. I think we could likely see
Speaker 3: that be the route where that's where they get to
Speaker 3: do this style of storytelling. And I'm the Mandalorian, I'll
Speaker 3: be one of these other things. Each one's going to
Speaker 3: tell different kind of narrative, take a different kind of
Speaker 3: narrative framework.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to talk about those stories as
Speaker 1: they appear up next our nerd Out segment. In this
Speaker 1: week's nerd Out, our recurring segment where you tell us
Speaker 1: what you love and why and why we should also
Speaker 1: love the thing that you love Anthony pitches us on
Speaker 1: Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files series.
Speaker 7: Hi Gang, I'm Anthony. I love the show and I
Speaker 7: wanted to take a moment to nerd out to you
Speaker 7: about one of my favorite universes to get lost in,
Speaker 7: which is called The Dresden Files. It's a series of
Speaker 7: novels by author Jim Butcher that is currently up to
Speaker 7: seventeen books long, three short story collections, a comic series,
Speaker 7: a collectible card game, and a full blown pen and
Speaker 7: Paper are. The books are an urban fantasy that take
Speaker 7: place in modern Chicago and follow our hero one Harry
Speaker 7: Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, the often touted only working Wizard PI
Speaker 7: in the Yellow Pages. He is a wise, cracking, spell
Speaker 7: slinging wizard who often helps the Chicago Police Department and
Speaker 7: other worldly organizations to solve crime and bring down batties
Speaker 7: when things start to go bump in the night. How
Speaker 7: did I get mixed up in The Dresden Files. Well,
Speaker 7: I really discovered book one called Stormfront by chance in
Speaker 7: a local bookstore, and I was immediately hooked by the
Speaker 7: witty banter, the lovable characters, and Butcher's awesome spin on
Speaker 7: the genre. By weaving historical, mythological, and pop culture into
Speaker 7: his stories. In What Feels Fresh, why should you check
Speaker 7: out the series? Well, Dresden and his Steadfast friends tackle
Speaker 7: everything from ghosts, werewolves, demons, vampires, and evil wizards, all
Speaker 7: while he's shooting his mouth off in a way that
Speaker 7: all at once invokes Han Solo, Indiana Jones, Spider Man,
Speaker 7: and maybe even a little Deadpool. There are battles with
Speaker 7: necromancers involving zombie dinosaurs. There are prophecies and fallen angels,
Speaker 7: paladins and dragons, all happening under the nose of a
Speaker 7: very ignorant population of mortals. One of my favorite editions
Speaker 7: is the idea of different flavors of vampires. For example,
Speaker 7: in the Dresden Verse, vampires exist in different courts. The
Speaker 7: Black Court is like your Dracula, the White Court is
Speaker 7: like your Twilight day Walkers, the Red Court is your
Speaker 7: dust till Dawn vamps, and the mysterious Jade Court, well,
Speaker 7: they're unconfirmed.
Speaker 1: I also like how.
Speaker 7: Deep Butcher dives into the idea of classic fairies, or
Speaker 7: as they prefer to be called, the she. In my opinion,
Speaker 7: it's a crying shame that the property is not really
Speaker 7: erupted into other media formats like video games, board games,
Speaker 7: or streaming series. But despite that, I think you'll really
Speaker 7: enjoy the books. We're all eagerly awaiting the release date
Speaker 7: of book eighteen, but both book sixteen and seventeen came
Speaker 7: out in twenty twenty, So if you want to check
Speaker 7: out what is sure to be a hit in the
Speaker 7: near future, pick up Stormfront and you won't be disappointed.
Speaker 1: Thanks Anthony for submitting. If you want to be featured,
Speaker 1: send your nerd out pitch to x Ray at crooked
Speaker 1: dot com. Instructions are in the show notes. Up next.
Speaker 1: We're in the endgame now, folks. Yes, we are in
Speaker 1: the endgame now. And today Rosie and I ponder who
Speaker 1: is getting that beautiful shiny Medal of Yavin for winning
Speaker 1: the Book of Boba Fette series. We all, of course
Speaker 1: know that Chewbacca is not going to get it because
Speaker 1: he was cruelly locked out of this guest being just
Speaker 1: the disrespect echoes throughout the ages. But we are allowed
Speaker 1: to give our medal of Yavin to anyone who we
Speaker 1: do so please. I will go first. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with my Medal of Yeavin. Gosh, there's so you know,
Speaker 1: the appearance of Dan Jarren in the middle of the series,
Speaker 1: Grogu getting to see Grogu's early training with Luke on
Speaker 1: the unnamed beautiful forested planet where Luke is currently building
Speaker 1: his temple. But I'm going to go. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with Sophie Thatcher, who was so fantastic in Yellow Jackets
Speaker 1: and is having a moment right now, is wonderful in
Speaker 1: this series as the leader of the mods co leader
Speaker 1: of the Mods. They're kind of really they are commune,
Speaker 1: so there's no real leadership structure, but the main no
Speaker 1: hierarchy so to speak. But the main character along with
Speaker 1: Scad is Sophie Thatcher's Drash And for me, the winner
Speaker 1: is Sophie Thatcher, who is from Chicago. Sophie Thatcher's Carrie
Speaker 1: Fisher talking to Grand Moth Tarkin esque English accent. Would
Speaker 1: you call this a British accent you as a as
Speaker 1: a as.
Speaker 3: A seizen, this is this is a British accent, very
Speaker 3: much in the legacy of Star Wars British accents, which
Speaker 3: was Star Wars was made originally, you know, in pine Wood,
Speaker 3: so a lot of the actors had English accents and
Speaker 3: that kind of led to this generic English British accent
Speaker 3: throughout Star Wars history. So I love it. That is
Speaker 3: a great pick.
Speaker 1: I recognized your fell stenched when I was brought on board,
Speaker 1: says Drash. We cannot retreat from here. We must fight,
Speaker 1: and if we retreat there will be no cover. I
Speaker 1: was born here. It's just beautiful, beautiful work from Soviet
Speaker 1: that er is it? Can you place it at all?
Speaker 1: Is there? Could you give us again as an expert,
Speaker 1: like where if you heard this in the wild? Where
Speaker 1: could you say where this where? This accent?
Speaker 3: There's no specific area, but it's called posh. Is a
Speaker 3: posh accent, That's what it is. So it's like it's like,
Speaker 3: you know how everyone thinks the English people all speak
Speaker 3: like Mary Poppins, Like a lot of people don't think
Speaker 3: I'm English because I don'ts be like Mary Poppins. This
Speaker 3: is kind of the Hollywood. It's not as outrageous as
Speaker 3: Mary Poppins, but it's like it's that she sounds posh.
Speaker 3: She pronounces things very eloquently and kind of like that.
Speaker 3: So it's it's definitely always the it's the Hollywood English
Speaker 3: accent and I love it because I love Sophie Thatcher
Speaker 3: and her hair. I would like to add that I
Speaker 3: was going to pay pick Sophie Thatcher, so I'm adding
Speaker 3: that she'll get the medal also for the shag cut
Speaker 3: that I call it the share.
Speaker 1: She is having. Man talk about two cool haircuts in
Speaker 1: two consecutive shows, Yellowjackets and now Book of Boba. Fett
Speaker 1: shouts to Sophie Thatcher their haircut and the accent Rosie,
Speaker 1: who wins your medal? Of you Oven.
Speaker 3: There's so many people, mine is like again, probably a
Speaker 3: duel situation.
Speaker 1: So no, just go go, let us let us know
Speaker 1: everyth's so many things, so I think I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Grogu obviously loved the Baby loved in. I loved the
Speaker 3: moment in the finale where he like rose himself at
Speaker 3: dinn and then he's like tapping his helmet like take
Speaker 3: this shit off. I want to see your face dad
Speaker 3: like and AND's like, nah, no, there's people around, like
Speaker 3: not right now, man, not right now. So that was
Speaker 3: very cute. I loved to see Thundercat joining the Star
Speaker 3: Wars universe. That was like unbelievably great casting, and that
Speaker 3: to me is like very high up there, like, and
Speaker 3: I love their role. It's I know it was all
Speaker 3: a bit chintzy, but I love like a good cyberpunk story.
Speaker 3: So the mod Squad I loved them, and the other one,
Speaker 3: I think the real medal one because we're gonna make
Speaker 3: up for the past with you backups. Okay, it's gotta
Speaker 3: be black chrysandin come on, he means you.
Speaker 1: For doing this.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: We're doing it to make history, to make history right.
Speaker 3: But also because I loved to see the internet reaction
Speaker 3: to this character, like seeing people first after this like sexy,
Speaker 3: black metal wookie with like and there's all these like
Speaker 3: images with like all these love hearts put over there,
Speaker 3: and like, I just loved the pure outpouring that was
Speaker 3: there for him like this, people just want to be
Speaker 3: loved by a Wookie who can test someone's arms off
Speaker 3: if they're better a game than them, like, and I
Speaker 3: feel like as well as a Wookie fan. There was
Speaker 3: a lot of cool Wookie moments, like him getting angry
Speaker 3: in the bar because Wookies are just inherently comparitive and
Speaker 3: he hates to see people win.
Speaker 1: Getting to whoop some leathery Transdotionan asks us transitions are
Speaker 1: known in slavers of Wookie people. Was like, very very cathartic.
Speaker 1: That's a great pick and that's it for our endgame.
Speaker 1: Who do you think one? Who is your pick for
Speaker 1: the winner of Book of Boba fet Who would you
Speaker 1: give your personal Medal of yeaving to hit us at
Speaker 1: hashtag XRVN game to give us your pick. A big
Speaker 1: thank you to Rosie Knight for joining us on x
Speaker 1: ray Vision. Rosie plug everything, plug all your stuff, the plug,
Speaker 1: plug it all.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's me, Rosie Knight.
Speaker 1: I have a website.
Speaker 3: If you google me. On that website you can read
Speaker 3: a lot of comics. I have a lot of comics
Speaker 3: on there that you can read for free that I
Speaker 3: have written. I am Rosie Marx Marx on Instagram and
Speaker 3: also Letterboxed, which I am actually updating this year, which
Speaker 3: has been very hilarious because I have very strange tastes.
Speaker 3: Apparently I'm learning from my letter box.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I will have some exciting comic book news coming up
Speaker 3: soon that we have talked about that I cannot say.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also if you are excited for The Batman, which
Speaker 3: we will obviously be covering, I will have a lot
Speaker 3: of articles coming up in the lead up and afterwards,
Speaker 3: and if you want to read anything about The Batman now.
Speaker 3: I interviewed Matt Reeves almost two years ago about a
Speaker 3: really wonderful TV show that he made that was a
Speaker 3: science fiction TV show based on a series of photographs,
Speaker 3: and during that we just it was a really long
Speaker 3: chat and he talked so much about The Batman, and
Speaker 3: he talked about how much he loved Batman returns, and
Speaker 3: he talked about all these different things to do with
Speaker 3: them and the things that inspired him. So if you
Speaker 3: want to have a look at that, it's there's a
Speaker 3: few different articles on Nerdist if you just search Rosie
Speaker 3: Night Matt Reeves. If you're excited to see Robert Pattinson,
Speaker 3: I'm always excited to see Robert Pattinson always.
Speaker 1: I love listen. Oh he loves And I think that
Speaker 1: he is one of our I don't is he underrated.
Speaker 1: I think he's an underrated actor who makes it thinks
Speaker 1: incredibly cool choices.
Speaker 3: He probably won't be underrated after The Batman, is my guess,
Speaker 3: because like that's the kind of role where people will go, oh,
Speaker 3: why was he picked for this? And then they'll find
Speaker 3: good time or they'll find you know the lighthouse. Also,
Speaker 3: if you want to enjoy Robert Pattinson talking about those,
Speaker 3: GQ did this unbelievable twenty minute interview of him introducing
Speaker 3: his most iconic characters, and it's a great primer on
Speaker 3: why he was picked for the Batman, but it's also hilarious.
Speaker 3: So that's like my favorite thing I watched this week.
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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the rank on today. You know,
Speaker 4: did we don't talk a lot about the fact that
Speaker 4: Boba fet without a kind of training with it, just
Speaker 4: connected with his rank. Call Mike. This guy loves animals
Speaker 4: and it is paid off in a big way because
Speaker 4: he took that rankle out for a ride and they
Speaker 4: just demolished those Annihilator droids.
Speaker 1: The Annihilators got annihilated.
Speaker 4: You want to talk about irony like that, Mike. Listen,
Speaker 4: The rank law is here to stay, Mike, and he
Speaker 4: is here to just be a wonderful pet and a
Speaker 4: wonderful partner for Boba Fett, who is just going to
Speaker 4: be riding around the sands on the back of that
Speaker 4: beautiful little beast. Mike, I gotta tell you, I gotta
Speaker 4: say he did better than I ever thought he would
Speaker 4: in his very first battle. The baby is here and
Speaker 4: I just love what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Mike.
Speaker 4: I'll take my hands off the air.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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