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Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode contains kobious spoilers for the finale of

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Speaker 1: Book Boba Fett, and really that's it. I think we

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Speaker 1: spoil some stuff from the original Star Wars trilogia, So

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Speaker 1: if by wild chance you're not familiar with the original trilogy,

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Speaker 1: just beware of that spoilers. Spoiler spoilers. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: watched the finale of Book a Boavet, do that now,

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Speaker 1: then come back and listen and give us five stars.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepcion, and welcome to x ray Vision,

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Speaker 1: the Crooked Podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture. In today's episode on previously on, we

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Speaker 1: discuss the incredible raft of news that dropped mere moments

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Speaker 1: before we hit record on this podcast. In the airlock,

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Speaker 1: we talked the Book of Boba Fett finale, ride that

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Speaker 1: rank or baby un nerd out. A listener proposes that

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Speaker 1: we all engage with Jim Butcher's trust in files and

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Speaker 1: in the endgame. We discuss the medal of Yavin, who

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Speaker 1: gets it from the Book of Bobafet, our picks for

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Speaker 1: the winner of the Book of Boaveet and joining us

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Speaker 1: today the legend, the myth, the icon, the brilliant Rosie Night, Rosie,

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Speaker 1: how are you hello?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. It's nice to have moved from mythological status

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Speaker 3: to real life status.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Rosie, how are you?

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Speaker 3: First of all, Yeah, I'm doing okay, still twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: but we're living and there was so much news before

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Speaker 3: we started recording. It's like God, we were like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we know what we're covering today. It's gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: Boba fet. I'm gonna say some things might happen. It's

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Speaker 1: Let's talk news. First of all, The Lord of the

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Speaker 1: Rings first look Peace dropped on Vanity Fair with a

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Speaker 1: byline from Anthony Brizikin and Joanna Robinson. We get a

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Speaker 1: look at the actors who are playing the various characters.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more to say about this after the trailer

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Speaker 1: drops during the super Bowl, but any initial reactions, Rosy,

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Speaker 3: It continues to prove what we thought Amazon was trying

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Speaker 3: to prove, which is like craft and texture and practicality.

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Speaker 3: It looks really good and it looks really real that

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Speaker 3: a lot of what they shared was costume focused, practical focused,

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Speaker 3: think it's like people are going to be stoked that

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Speaker 3: Gladriel's really there played by who they thought it was

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Speaker 3: our first look at proper characters and kind of how

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Speaker 3: really cool. I'm stoked to see the trailer.

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Speaker 1: Some of the include Owayne Arthur as Prince during the

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Speaker 1: fourth the elf Arndier played by Ismail Cruz Cordova, of course,

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Speaker 1: Gladriel Elrond played by Robert Arameo, and more. I think

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Speaker 1: it's very smart to show how much of the craft

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Speaker 1: shortage of sci fi slash comics slash fantasy adaptions that

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Speaker 1: have been sunk because the wigs look bad. You know,

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Speaker 1: the wigs just look cheap, and that is not the

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Speaker 1: case with this. Everything looks really real and lived in

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see the trailer. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl trailers, some rumors for trailers that might drop

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Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl. Now, Jurassic World Dominion drop today,

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Speaker 1: so that's out. We've got dinosaurs like in the American West.

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Speaker 1: It is Yellowstone meets dinosaurs, Yeah, and meets a surprise

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Speaker 3: Chris Pratt's like riding a motorcycle through Italy being chased

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Speaker 3: by raptors, and then Laura Dunn is there looking really cool,

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Speaker 1: I also love the fact that it's like Chris Pratt's

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Speaker 1: This is I'm excited. It's gonna be wild. I love

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Speaker 1: Unconfirmed trailers for the Super Bowl, Uh, Doctor Strange in

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Speaker 1: Soon May sixth A Disney sizzle reel for their upcoming

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Kenoby. We got a poster and a

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Speaker 1: release date and a short plot synopsis for Kenobi. A

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Speaker 1: snopsis follows. The story begins ten years after the dramatic

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Speaker 1: events of Star Wars Revenger of the Sith, where Obi

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Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi faced his greatest defeat, the downfall corruption of

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Speaker 1: his best friend and Jedi apprentice Anakin Skywalker who turned

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Speaker 1: Spoiler for everybody who's not seen the Original Children. That

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Speaker 1: show will release on May twenty fifth. I'm extremely excited

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Speaker 3: Journals of Obi Wan Kenobi, and they have it as

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Speaker 1: I mean, like when we haven't even like Hayden Christensen

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Speaker 1: for this. Next up, Futurama returns on Hulu after runs

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Speaker 1: episode run for Beering in twenty twenty three. This is

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Speaker 1: what have you been reading? What have you been up

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Speaker 1: to any rex for the people before we move on

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Speaker 1: to the discussion.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have been reading this book that was on

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Speaker 3: it came out, called Devil House by John Darneil, and

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Speaker 3: it is so good. It's like really scary. It's about

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Speaker 3: every time you think you know what the book is,

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Speaker 3: you don't. It's like an excavation of true crime culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put that on my list after I

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Speaker 1: finish Andy Weer's Tail Mary, which for anybody that like

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Speaker 1: the Martian Andy Where is back in the Martian mode,

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Speaker 1: Absolute Book by Elizabeth Knox. Elizabeth Knox is a New

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Speaker 1: The Absolute Book is like just an incredible blend of

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Speaker 1: but it was really good. If you're looking for a

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely fine. They had like a first edition Emma

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Speaker 1: Next, let's talk Book a Boba Fette finale. All right,

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Speaker 1: the finale of the Book of Boba fet titled In

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Speaker 3: he is definitely still alive. I will not.

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Speaker 1: It's good news now. Of course, Mando does not know

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Speaker 1: This is a terrible idea, terrible, terrible so the ideas

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Speaker 3: I feel like Boba's going to stop taking as much

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Speaker 1: Later anyway, That night, cad Bane is stalking the streets

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Speaker 1: The squeal, like the squeal as they fall is terrible. Boba,

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Speaker 1: under duresses like, guess what I know? Where the h

423
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: where the Pike headquarters is. It's the Desert Survey Office

424
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: right there. Shan sets off at a sprint from Mossizley

425
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: and we get that, you know, the moment in Avengers

426
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: marvels the Avengers when it seems like the Jaitari are

427
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna win. We get that moment here. But then Fennick

428
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: Shan badasses the Mods out of trouble. She tells him, listen,

429
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: go to Sanctuary where you should have been anyway, go

430
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: help Boba. At that moment, the Pikes are surrounding the

431
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: burnt out cantina. But luckily it seems like cad Bane

432
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: isn't there. He's out doing why yeah, where is it?

433
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: What is he doing?

434
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: Like?

435
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: It's popping off, and cad Bane is.

436
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 5: Like, I'm gonna I'm taking a I'm taking a dump.

437
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: There's nowhere to take a shit out in this entire

438
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: city now that Sanctuary is gone, the only place with

439
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 5: a public restroom, I'm burying my poop in the desert. Sorry,

440
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 5: I heard the shots, but I couldn't come because it

441
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: takes me five hours to poop.

442
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: So Boba and Mando are facing down the Pikes from

443
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: the air, flying around as a mandalorian. Din's creed will

444
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: not allow him to leave Boba side. The Majordomo offers

445
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: an alternative to fighting. Perhaps he majored in negotiation in

446
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: college and on coursant, and he is uniquely qualified to

447
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: act as an interlocutor for fet and the Pike. So

448
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: Fete says, okay, go ahead, here's my demands on an iPad.

449
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: Take this out and read it to them. The Domo

450
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: reads the demands of the Pikes, and these are the

451
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: are as follows nothing. You will leave this planet at

452
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: your spice trade. If you refuse these terms, the arid

453
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: sands of Tattooine will once again flourish with flowered fields

454
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: fertilized with the bodies of You're dead. Who knew Bobo

455
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: was a poet? Like this with the literation.

456
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: Literation also one of the few, if not only, times

457
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: that somebody's ever written in live action Star Wars.

458
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: Also like Boba just really typed that out quick, like

459
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: first draft this guy has it.

460
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: He's got the boss, the major demo. Why was he

461
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: surprised by that? He could have just read it before

462
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: he went out there, Like when he starts fading out

463
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: like he's horrified, and I'm just like, my guy, he

464
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: could have just read it before.

465
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta do that.

466
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: You know.

467
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: He's well done.

468
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: And it leads to a very badass fat Mando team up,

469
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: which I think everyone wanted.

470
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: We wanted it, and we got it. They strike from

471
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: the air using their jet packs, are flying around. We

472
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: get the big fight, which is very, very big and

473
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: takes up most of the remaining episode. Side by side,

474
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Fete and Mando Unlesia, storm of blaster shots, knee rockets,

475
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: wrist rockets, everything at the pikes and the homes and

476
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: businesses of the citizens who Bobo has swore to protect

477
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: and who the Mods were very worried about. Now they're

478
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: fighting like outside of their doorsteps. It's okay. Only the

479
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: best gar is keeping Mando and fet upright long enough

480
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: for the Forces of Freetown to arrive. Oh big surprise,

481
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: the Forces of Freetowner. Here we learned that cob Vans

482
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: is seriously wounded slash, perhaps dead, from his wounds, and

483
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: then the Mods arrive on the scene, followed quickly by

484
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: an enraged Chrysantin who was limping into view. Boba shields

485
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: the limping giant with his own bestcar covered body. The

486
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: Pikes pull back, but they're only pulling back to allow

487
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: for the arrival of a pair of Clone War era

488
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Scorpiineck annihilator droids. Boba and Mando draw the fire of

489
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: the droids so Santo and the Mods and the freetowners

490
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: can all just like get out of there. They're blasters.

491
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: The Dark Saber even cannot penetrate the annihilator shields. Boba

492
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: flies off to go get something without explaining to Dinjarren

493
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: why he's leaving. He just leaves, which you know, for

494
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: din Jarren, the Mandalorian must be like a dire violation

495
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: of the creed, and you know, din Jarren is like,

496
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: you Fucko.

497
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 3: He's like, this isn't even my fight, and I am here,

498
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: and you're.

499
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: Like running back to get your keys or some of

500
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: your wallet that you left in Java's mouths, you fuckhad.

501
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: Mando is just like running for his life and he

502
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: runs straight into the waiting arms and open a car

503
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: door of Pelimoto and her droids. They're just like racing

504
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: around the city willy nilly, like trying to avoid getting

505
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: stomped out by these Annihilator droids. And who is in

506
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: the car with Pelimoto? The baby dads are the baby

507
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: and he's wearing the chain mail shirt, and Mando's like,

508
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And it is a wonderful moment,

509
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: as every moment with Grogu on the screen is back

510
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: to the fight. Drash says, folks, the annihilators are annihilating us. Yes,

511
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: that's true, but we can't fall back any further and

512
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: shouts to Sophie Thatcher's English accent here, because I guess

513
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: like her, her logic is there's no cover if they

514
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: fall back any She knows the neighborhood, and it's like,

515
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: if you fall back any further, there's nowhere to hide, okay.

516
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: So she comes up with a plan, and tell me,

517
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: if you've heard this one before in the context of

518
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: Star Wars, you take the high ground? What about that?

519
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: What about that ogg coming on?

520
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 6: Yes?

521
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: What about that, Rosie? What if we take the high ground?

522
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: The freetowners provide Drash with a sniper rifle and a

523
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: partner and they go to find a rooftop from which

524
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: to snipe. Meanwhile, Mando, Grogo and Pelly are about to

525
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: get blown up. So Boba, in the nick of time,

526
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: arrives on Rancor Back. Now, we had previously heard from

527
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: Boba that it would take a lot of time and

528
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: training to learn to tame the rank Corps and to

529
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: ride it, and apparently that has been taking place off

530
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: screen during this time. And it's fine now because Boba

531
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: can just ride that thing and they are a devastating team.

532
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: There's a brief moment in this that is so good.

533
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: So the fight is going on. The Annihilator droids are

534
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: like blasting everything. The Pikes are in the street shooting,

535
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: shooting at the freetown or shooting at Chrisanden and the mods,

536
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: and this is like a massive gun battle heat Michael

537
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Mann's Heat level gun battle going on in the middle

538
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: of moss Espa. Right then Bolba arrives on Rancorback and

539
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: we get this shot of the street merchants of moss

540
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Espo who are like still at their tables looking up

541
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: and being like, oh my god, it's a rink. Why

542
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: are you guys on the street.

543
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: This is why are you there? This is such like

544
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: you can really tell that Favreaux and Madriguez like they're

545
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: really going back to those Western influences on Star Wars

546
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: because they were like what always happens in these kind

547
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: of movies where it's like there's a shootout, and to

548
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 3: show how bad the shootout is, you need to show

549
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: everyone who's like selling booze or whatever. They're selling things

550
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: on the street and then they run inside and they

551
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: close their windows, you know, and this is that moment

552
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: you're like, guys, they should have happened like ten minutes ago.

553
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: Why were you still outside? Like how it's still alive? Yeah,

554
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: it's like a fucking.

555
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: Two Annihilator droids running around in the street and there's

556
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: like a hawker out there like, oh, melons, melons, get

557
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: your water, get your juicy water, providing melons here two

558
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: for three credits. It's like, guys, there's a war going on.

559
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: So the rank Core comes and everybody is like, now

560
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the final straw. We're running away. Boba

561
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: and his rank Orps are just an incredible destructive force.

562
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: This is really really fun to watch, really really cool.

563
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Mando ignites the dark saber slips inside an annihilator shield

564
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: manages to slice it up. Then Grogu uses the force

565
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: to lift the droid up, saving Mando's life, but getting

566
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: hit in the chest with a little bolt from the annihilator,

567
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: which sucks. Meanwhile, the Freetowners, the Mods and Crysantan are

568
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: holding up in this like a little alley, and Drash

569
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: and her freetown partner now are sniping from a roof.

570
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: They're holding the pikes off long enough for Boba in

571
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: the Rank Corps to finally destroy one of these annihilators.

572
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Then cad Baine shows up, showing a real veteran savvy. Here,

573
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: cad Bane hits the rank or in the face with

574
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: flames from his wrist unit, which really bothers the Rank Corps.

575
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Boba and cad have their showdown. Boba insists that he's

576
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: fighting to protect the people of mos Espa. He's learned

577
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: the value of teamwork and a tribe. This former loaner

578
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: has come full circle in his emotional growth. Boba has

579
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: the absolute gall as like a sixty year old man

580
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: clone to call cad Bane old. Cad Baane is then

581
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna beat your ass, and then He draws

582
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Boba and proceeds to beat his ass. But then Boba,

583
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: calling on his Tuscan experience and the expertise that he

584
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: gained as a member of that Tusk tribe, kills Cadbane

585
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: with the score point of his gaffy stick. Bells for Cadbane.

586
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: One of the great shocking moment to lose Cadbane. Here,

587
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Boba's pet Rank Corps, enraged by like all the things

588
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: that have happened, goes rampaging across moss espa Din sees

589
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: that the beast, now in full King Kong mode, even

590
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: to the point of like climbing a tower, is afraid

591
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: and everybody shooting at it is not really helping, So

592
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: he flies onto the ranker's back and Bronco billy style.

593
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I'm gonna ride this fucking bronc and

594
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tame it. No, that does a work. He

595
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: gets thrown across the city at his force to use

596
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: a flamethrower to keep the Rank Corps from like eating

597
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: his head. Mando quickly enters concussion protocol. After getting like

598
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: thrown through a wall, Grogu steps up and uses the

599
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: force to basically Natasha the Rank Corps. Hey, big guy,

600
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: the sun's getting real low. The forces with me and

601
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: go go to bed. The Ranker and Grog go to

602
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: take a long winter. Snap shand arrives in moss Iley

603
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: near the spiked heads of the stormtroopers at the Desert

604
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: Survey Office, and she wipes out the Pike leadership with ease,

605
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: even going so far as to lynch the fucking mayor

606
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: of Mosses.

607
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: She does that fast too. She's like, pow, this is

608
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: what happened to him. You see what's gonna happen to you.

609
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I was not prepared. Listen, I get it.

610
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: The mayor is dirty, the mayor is corrupt. You got no,

611
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: you have no objection from me on that account. But

612
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I was not prepared for Fedikshd to lynch a elected official.

613
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm very interested in this thing as well, because, like

614
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: you know, I know, we'll talk about it more, but

615
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: like it's very interesting to see Boba exploring this more

616
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: familial like were all this soft that he wants to

617
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: be a good gangstuff. But the real reason he's been

618
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: able to keep power is because Fenic is brutal and

619
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: phenick like knows what needs to be done. So this

620
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: is like a really interesting way to essentially like end

621
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: this part of the story.

622
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Fennick is an extreme badass, as we get to see

623
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: in these scenes later, mass Espa is at peace. Folks,

624
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: all the all the fighting.

625
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: Who's gonna rebuild all the buildings rancor destroyed? They're like

626
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: they're just chilling.

627
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: They're like, that's on Boba now as Daimyo the mayor reason,

628
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: the mayor of bas Esma is dead. We won't talk

629
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: about how that happened, but you know, like I'm sure

630
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: not a lot of people are gonna know that Fedi

631
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: should which the mayor, but they just play it on

632
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: the pikes. They're gonna they're gonna look to Boba fet

633
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: now to rebuild. He and Shan, Chrysanta and the Mons

634
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: are now firmly in controlling moss app Espa under the

635
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: now peaceful twin Tattooine sons, Din and Grogo meanwhile fly

636
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: off world to have their further adventures. Dinn is an

637
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: unbelievable pushover when it comes.

638
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: He's he's not chi pusher, but like he's just been

639
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: waiting to get told what to do by the baby.

640
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: I know he's like tries to pretend like he's gonna

641
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: be tough, like, no, no, I'm not gonna what No,

642
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: stop tapping on your glass dome. No, okay, fine, And

643
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: then he goes to light speed or hyper speed or.

644
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: The baby just wants to go into hyper space.

645
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: Because the baby loves to go fast. And then we

646
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: get our stinger, which is Cob Vance stewing in Bulba's

647
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: back to Tank and over overwatched by the Modifying Man

648
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: aka Thundercat, who is preparing to make Cob Van f

649
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: a some sort of cyber RoboCop. I was hoping that

650
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: we would get more. Yes, producer Saul brings up something interesting,

651
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: which is like, why wasn't wasn't Chriysantin gonna take a

652
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: take a take a spin in the back to Tank.

653
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: My only thought there is Chris Sanden, Like, we don't

654
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: know that book He's have a healing factor, But Chrisanden

655
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: shrugs off some pretty serious wounds without a back that

656
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: think like routinely that happens all the time with him.

657
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: I also think that they specifically had Boba say that

658
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: to him so that when we saw this singer we

659
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: would assume it was Chrisanton and then be shocked when

660
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: it was called Van three. We thought was dead.

661
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: When we're back morebet, we're back. Let's talk about this finale.

662
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was fine.

663
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an action you know what, It's an

664
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: action episode. They actually kind of took a little bit

665
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: more from the prestige TV set up, especially Game of Thrones,

666
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: where you have your big episodes in like the two

667
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: last episodes, and then the finale is like the kind

668
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: of fallout episodes. So that that I think is interesting

669
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: because this is very different to a lot of Prestige TV.

670
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: It's much more serialized, Flashcoordon esque storytelling, the kind of

671
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: stuff that inspired original Star Wars. I like all the action,

672
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: I like all the characters, so I was fine with it.

673
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: It definitely it's tough because we all know that the

674
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: Mandalorian and Grogu's stuff is very moving and it gives

675
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: that emotional heart, and I think for a lot of people,

676
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: the last two episodes were really powerful for that reason,

677
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: and because they put Boba back into that kind of mysterious,

678
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: enigmatic cameo that he'd been that had worked so well.

679
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: So I think this was like a little bit more

680
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: of a kind of messy mash up, but like, I

681
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: also like seeing people shooting each.

682
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Other and monsters in the desert, so I'm like cool,

683
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: I also love that listen. I love Boba riding a

684
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: rank corps. I love a great big gun battle. I

685
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: was a little here's the thing that I wonder the

686
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: easter eggs that was in the reference that was like

687
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: dropped multiple times of the course of the series, and

688
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we're gonna get an answer to this.

689
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: The multiple references to Tattooine having an ocean in its

690
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: ancient past. I thought for sure that was going to

691
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: play into the climax of the show somehow, And I

692
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: wonder if we won't get something like that in the

693
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: Obi Wan show. I wonder in connection.

694
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, this definitely feels to me like it is a

695
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: really really fun kind of diversion and it is really

696
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: less about the we talked about this in pre pro

697
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: but like it's about expansion rather than like pushing things

698
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: narratively forward. So I think all of that, even like

699
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: Boba's little poem about the lush, you know, plants of

700
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: Tattooine and stuff, they're talking a lot about these different

701
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: eras of Tattooine, how it looked, how so that I

702
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: feel like that a lot of what happened here was

703
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: sowing seeds and introducing stuff that might not have been

704
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 3: known to people who haven't read the books or watched

705
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: the cartoons and stuff like that, so that when it

706
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: does come into Obi Wan or Mandalorian season three, they'll

707
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: be like, Oh, I remember that from Boba Fair or

708
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: that's so. I feel like that this will be a

709
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: series where a lot of people, when they're watching whatever

710
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: the next things, are going to be coming back to

711
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: and looking at those moments or quoting those teasers and

712
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: easter eggs that seem to be building to something that

713
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: when we watch it, we'll go, oh, that's what it

714
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: was about. Oh that's how we got here.

715
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Do you think we get a book above at season

716
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: two or are we gonna like I don't think it's

717
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: something about you don't think so? You know, I think

718
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: just like a tattooine, like a mass Espa Stories kind

719
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: of anthology.

720
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: I think it would be more like that. I don't

721
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: necessarily think it would be called the Book of Bobaffet.

722
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: It might be something about. It might be a Feni

723
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: Shan spin off. It could be a mod Squad spin off.

724
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: It could. I think it's more likely that The Mandalorian

725
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: is our narrative kind of thrust the series that everything

726
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: else is tied to, and I feel like these things

727
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: that are building out the world, it's almost like the

728
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: expanded Universe. Maybe we would get another series of Bobaffett,

729
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: but I don't think it's gonna The Mandalorian could really

730
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: go on for as many seasons as they want it to.

731
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: It's that kind of It's the Star Wars show, and

732
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: I think these other ones are sort of like little

733
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: stops on the wider map of the galaxy to explain

734
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: like stuff that we learned about mass Espa and the

735
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: politics of it and the way that it's established. Now,

736
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: we will go back to that in the Mandlor in

737
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: season three, no question, Like we are going to meet

738
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: these characters, We're gonna see Black chrisanitin, We're gonna understand

739
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 3: more because of what we saw here. But I don't

740
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: necessarily know if the plan is for us to come

741
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: back and directly continue this story.

742
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's interesting. I am really intrigued to know,

743
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: you know how the Boba Fette Daimyo project goes, He's

744
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: he's cut himself off from a major source of income

745
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: that the that the business, the elite illicit business that

746
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: he inherited from a Jaba depended on in large part,

747
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: and now he's not going to have that. But he's

748
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: also set himself up as someone who's going to support

749
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: and defend the people of mass Espa and me in

750
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: a way that maybe they've they've never had before. So

751
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I would like to see more, But yeah, I wonder

752
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: how they would do it. Thinking about the way that

753
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: this show really became like the Mandalorian season two and

754
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: a half, as many have noted, I do wonder if

755
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: the feeling isn't we've done our Boba Fett thing. How

756
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? By the way, a lot

757
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: of people criticize the show because they're like, oh, Boba

758
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: Fett is so boring as a character, is bringing Mandalorian

759
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: and you know, other sorts of criticism like that, which

760
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: I think are fair from a certain perspective, but also like, obviously,

761
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: I as a human being, I'm in the tank for

762
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I'm a Star Wars fan. I love my shit.

763
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: That said, it feels like a weird criticism to me,

764
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: because like, don't you those were when Mando came in

765
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: as a story really took off. So I'm not gonna

766
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: sit here and criticize what I think is a really

767
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: unique and interesting creative decision just because it's like, doesn't

768
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: vib necessarily with the title of the show. What did

769
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: you think of that?

770
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: I think it's really interesting. I think I think we

771
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: kind of touched on it last week. Like my main

772
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: thought about it, which is basically, I think it's really

773
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: hard to make a show about someone like Boba Fett,

774
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: who's essentially an Avatar character because everyone's just seen they

775
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: can imagine all the cool things he does, and you

776
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: don't really have any confirmation of that within any canon

777
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: except for the expanded canon, and even there it's rare,

778
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: so trying and expand him on a live action is

779
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: never going to sit well with everyone. But I actually

780
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: I like this reversion to this stuff that when The

781
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: Man Laurin came out, a lot of people thought it

782
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: was quite boring until the end of the first season.

783
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true, and I the first few episodes were

784
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: people does anything happen here? Like anything?

785
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 3: I think, like for me, I can understand why Jon

786
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: Favreau and Rob Rodriguez, Dave Filoni these are the stories

787
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: they want to tell because these are the same kinds

788
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: of stories that inspired Star Wars. So it's the Flashbordon serializations.

789
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: It's the kind of like Batman sixty six, like what's

790
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: going to happen next? But it doesn't have to be

791
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: a that's going to happen next in the scale of

792
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: the galaxy. It's what's going to happen next with this

793
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: funny creature who owe you some money? And also, something

794
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: that you touched on that I thought is actually really

795
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: interesting that we haven't really talked about is in a

796
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: way this goes back to one of the oldest Star

797
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Wars criticisms of all time. That's also one of the

798
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: things that certain Star Wars fans love the most, which

799
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: is the concept of kind of bureaucracy and politics like

800
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: that is what George Lucas wanted to explore in the prequels,

801
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: you know, absolutely, and in this way, something that I

802
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: think is really interesting that Boba Fett reflects of that

803
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: kind of legacy of Star Wars is the idea of

804
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: like what happens when that bureaucracy isn't there? And how

805
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: can somebody kind of try and make a better space

806
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: in the galaxy, which is what all of Star Wars

807
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: is about.

808
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: How do we govern this uncoverable like so.

809
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: When you've never had a good like kind of road

810
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: map for that, and something I kind of think is

811
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: funny a criticism as people are like why is Boba

812
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: so bad at being a gangster because because he's never

813
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: been one before? In that way, I kind of think

814
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: that it's actually an interesting exploration, and I definitely I

815
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: always want to see more sort of radical imagination brought

816
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: to these stories that we see about, like the worlds

817
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: we could live in or the ways they could be governed.

818
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: So I actually think there's something really interesting about a

819
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: community governance kind of focus on this of like how

820
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: can we make things happen without really having a hierarchy,

821
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: and and how can Boba give back to these kids

822
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 3: and these people on mos Essper who are the reason

823
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: that he's still alive and the reason he has this power.

824
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: That actually is interesting to me, and I very much

825
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: think that it reflects things that have gone before in

826
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: Star Wars, these ideas of governance and rebuilding, And in

827
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: that way, I think it would be really cool to

828
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: see it explored more. But I definitely feel like the

829
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: Bottle episode nature of like having the mandluriing come back

830
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: in it being Mad Laurian episodes. I think that might

831
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: be the future of this world, might be ball episodes

832
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: in other shows returning back.

833
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean certainly if you look at Clone Wars,

834
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: that was kind of the model. There'd be like three

835
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: three episode arc here, two episode arc here, but it

836
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: was a lot of kind of like Adventure of the

837
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: Week stuff, So I would not be surprised to see that.

838
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: It's something you said about governance and about the way

839
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: Boba is, you know, cooperating, is collaborating with the Mods

840
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: and with other people really made me think about how

841
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: this was like one of the more overtly class conscious

842
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: I dream about it a lot in the recap, but

843
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: overtly class conscious Star Wars stories I think I've ever encountered,

844
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: with the Mods really pushing that argument of you've got

845
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: to understand what's happening to the people here on the

846
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: street level of Mossas, but who don't have opportunities, who

847
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: don't get to, you know, retire to a massive fortified

848
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: palace with a with a you know, free back the

849
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: tank in the bedroom, Like you've got to understand what

850
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: the actual people are going through, And that was a

851
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: large part of the finale, even to the point of

852
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: it was semi comical, but like the part where the

853
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Freetowners the drashes like Freetown partner, they have this little

854
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: back and forth about oh, the city versus Freetown more

855
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: like country. Meanwhile, it's like, you know, Freetown looks exactly

856
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: the same as Massa. It might be a little bit smaller,

857
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: but you all live in the desert like an out

858
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: of the way, you know, let it. But that was

859
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: fascinating to see that kind of play out, the ideas

860
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: of like city versus country and and different class conflicts

861
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: within Star Wars.

862
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 3: I actually think that's really interesting and probably a reason

863
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: why me and you have had more favorable reaction to

864
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: this is I think as we dig into it, it's

865
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: actually touching on a lot of stuff that we loved

866
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: from the last Jedi, which I know is like we

867
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: always says a divisive movie. It's like some people love it,

868
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: some people hate it. There's very reasonable criticisms on each side.

869
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 3: But for me, it's like there's a lot about that

870
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 3: movie that I love, like Justice for Finn. I truly

871
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: believe he's a Jedi. It's my one critique. But otherwise,

872
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: like there's a lot about that movie I love. And

873
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: the end of that movie has that massive, like kind

874
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: of class statement of like everyone can use the force,

875
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: that you do not have to be an elitist, bloodline,

876
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: legacy family, you do not have to have been trained

877
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: from birth as a child soldier. By this like ex

878
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: cult of like kind of one percent is you can

879
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: literally just be a kid with a broom who's in

880
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: indentured servitude and you can use the force. And I

881
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: kind of I love that was This kind of accessibility

882
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: democratization of the force was so exciting to me. So

883
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: I actually think that bringing those seeds of class conversation

884
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 3: and class consciousness into this kind of more ground level

885
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: Western no magical force whatever, but like, yeah, I think

886
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: that's actually part of the reason why they're exploring some

887
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: stuff there that I think Star Wars is really ripe

888
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: ground for. And I think that in that way, even

889
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 3: if it's been a little bit clunky for some people,

890
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: or it's.

891
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Always its star, it's always going to be kind of clunky.

892
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: And I think as well, that's something else we we've

893
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: kind of talked about before, you know, we've recorded, but like,

894
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: it's a really strange space to be in when a

895
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 3: movie that was made and expected to be a flop

896
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: and was allowed to have for creative creative freedom that

897
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: when you watch it now with my new hope obviously

898
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 3: is just got a lot of janky effects and all

899
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: this kind of like it's it's you know, it's it's

900
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: it's an old movie that was made with practical effects

901
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: that looks a certain way and has always been a

902
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 3: bit clunky space.

903
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

904
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: That's the point of it. That's and so to have

905
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: gone on this journey over all these decades and ended

906
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: up in a space where it's now owned by this

907
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: huge corporation and not just that, but it's now creating

908
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: art that is put up against prestige TV. Yeah, I

909
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: think that is a lot of where these not even

910
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: necessarily critiques, but maybe people's kind of confusion about oh,

911
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: what they're wanting for the show or or how they

912
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: feel like it should fit into this space. Is it

913
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: really comes from the fact that this is essentially like

914
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: a B movie that has like become this huge cultural

915
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: zeitgeist force. And in that way, it's kind of like, yeah,

916
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: the conversations are gonna be a little bit clunky, Like

917
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some funny cg that maybe doesn't fit,

918
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 3: or there's gonna be like a funny accent or something

919
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: that's kind of what Star Wars is.

920
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a big battle, a climactic battle that

921
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: takes place specifically because characters make.

922
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 6: A series.

923
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: That don't make any sense but are necessary for this big,

924
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: really fun battle to take place. I agree with you.

925
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: I think they're Listen, We're in a moment now where

926
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: nerd culture, for lack of a of a better, you know,

927
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: more artful term, is kind of like the dominant storytelling

928
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: mode in movies and television, certainly in the discourse, the

929
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: internet centric discourse around pop culture. And I think that

930
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: that is again like you and I are in the

931
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: tank for this stuff. Like I'm a you know, lifelong

932
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: comic fan, lifelong Star Wars fan. This is the moment

933
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for all my life to talk about

934
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: all of this. But I think if this was not

935
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: your thing, or if you were just like like a

936
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: lot of people who were just like kind of like

937
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: casually into Star Wars, casually into comics, and then you

938
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: moved on with your life and grew up to it,

939
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: you know. For lack of again, for lack of a

940
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: better term, I think that there is probably one something

941
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: anxiety of like, God, is this what the world is?

942
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: Like?

943
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: I have to talk about this stuff now?

944
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Like this is it?

945
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: If I want to commune with people about a movie

946
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: or about TV. It's like I have to talk about

947
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: this and not the Sopranos. And I get that, if

948
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: you know. And I think also there is the way

949
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: these stories are told are kind of not like the

950
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: way TV and movies have unfolded in the past. There's

951
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: different needs that are serviced. There is a different type

952
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: of engagement with the fan base. There's a like more

953
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: of a two way communication, less of an authorial kind

954
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: of we will tell you what the story is and

955
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: at least an awareness of what the fans want and desire.

956
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: That makes it a more kind of like two way conversation.

957
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: And I think that is uncomfortable for audiences and or

958
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: critics who are not you know, naturally either naturally versed

959
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: in this subject matter or who just don't like it,

960
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: ye are not fans of it.

961
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: I also think that's a really interesting point that you

962
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: made about the two Day conversation because something that I

963
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 3: think about a lot, and this definitely occurs in Star Wars,

964
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: but especially in comics, a lot of what we know

965
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 3: in the world of Marvel and DC is actually defined

966
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: by fans and not because of not because of like

967
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: internet campaigns or whatever. I'm talking about decades ago, like

968
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: people talk about, We've talked about the multiverse a lot.

969
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 3: So anyone listening has probably heard of the term Marvel

970
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: six one six, right, and that's kind of seen as

971
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: the main Marvel comics timeline, and we've heard it referenced

972
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 3: in the movies. That was put in a comic many

973
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: years ago by Alan Moore, But it was fans who decided,

974
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: via forums and conversations and conventions, they made that the

975
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: accepted term, to the point where Marvel used to say,

976
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: please please, that's not the real term. The six one

977
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: six doesn't exist. And then because of years of fans

978
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: doing this, talking about it a certain way, and that

979
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: becoming the sort of accept colloquialism for it, it then

980
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: becomes canon and it's put in a Marvel movie as

981
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: a sort of nod and all these different things. So

982
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: in that way, those conversations really do happen because and

983
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: I think Star Wars speaks to this a lot, because

984
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 3: of the lulls, like when there wasn't a Star Wars

985
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 3: movie for ten years. You know, the things that keep

986
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: it going are fans who go to conventions. It's people

987
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: like Mark Hamill who will go and keep the kind

988
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: of fire of it alive and the love for it.

989
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: And in that way, I think that makes it much

990
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: more of a two way conversation, and that is very

991
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: different to a lot of other ways that art is created,

992
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 3: even though that passion is very shared. Like the reason

993
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: that certain art house films and directors are famous and

994
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: are popular and become part of the cultural lexicon is

995
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 3: because of the people who love those movies. So in

996
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: that way, it's actually very similar. But that ongoing conversation

997
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: between the people who create comic books and Star Wars

998
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: and is kind of what is now seen as like

999
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: populist are and was before seen as like nerd stuff.

1000
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: That is that's such a good care because that is

1001
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: such a unique, specific way of interacting, and it's also

1002
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: completely fine if people are like I have no interest

1003
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: in that, Yeah, Like I don't want to be a

1004
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: part of that. I think a lot about Wonder Vision, right.

1005
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: I loved that show.

1006
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: It was like everything.

1007
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: It was everything that I could have ever wanted because

1008
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: it was based on these really weird eighties comics that

1009
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: I love. It was these weird characters. It was this

1010
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 3: tragic romance. But I think so much about that show

1011
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: where if you are just a casual TV viewer, even

1012
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 3: if you've watched the MCU movies, if you watch that show,

1013
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 3: I just can't even fathom how inaccessible it must have been.

1014
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: For some people.

1015
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: And I think about that a lot, like I think

1016
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: there can be TV for all kinds of people, but

1017
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 3: I can also understand how people can become frustrated when

1018
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 3: the most popular pop culture things of TV and film

1019
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: can be very inaccessible to a casual viewer in a

1020
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 3: way that certain things haven't been before.

1021
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: There's an interesting conversation going along these lines right now

1022
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: with the Oscars, the Oscar nominations for released. We're not

1023
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna go into that, but you see a lot of

1024
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: like Richard Brodie's column in The New Yorker talked about

1025
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: how there is a discussion of, oh, you know, should

1026
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Spiderman No Way Home be nominated somehow to raise the

1027
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: ratings for this Oscar telecast? Wouldn't that connect cinema more

1028
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: with the kind of like populist urges that really the

1029
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: art form was built on in its early decades. And

1030
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: I listen, I love spider I don't care if it's

1031
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: not I'm nominated for an Oscar. I don't believe you know,

1032
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: it's not to me. Do I think about it as

1033
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: an Oscar movie?

1034
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: No?

1035
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to this kind of like

1036
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: underlying anxiety that is out there amongst critics and some

1037
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: people who make movies and then television of like, oh

1038
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: my god, is this just when is this going to

1039
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: be over? Is this just like what the world is

1040
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: like now? Like we're just gonna have to talk about

1041
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: Spider Man all the time. You know, maybe I feel

1042
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: bad for the people who are again are not fans

1043
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: of this.

1044
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you raise a really good point, because earlier you

1045
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 3: talked about like the discourse as we call it. You know,

1046
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: I think the Internet and the way, you know, so

1047
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 3: many things are digital. Now we just heard the terrible

1048
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: news that EW is going to be out of print,

1049
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred jobs lost and all that. So

1050
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: that's happening more and more. So the internet has this

1051
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: extra kind of shine. It controls a lot of the conversations.

1052
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: And the funny thing is, like we've talked about this

1053
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: in pre pro Our, producer Saul has made the most

1054
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: incredible list that I'm about to reference. But like, the

1055
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: funny thing is, like superheroes, comic books, this stuff has

1056
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: been a cultural staple for decades. Yes, Max Flice's first

1057
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Superman cartoon, Uh just want to say, don't be going

1058
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: and seeking those out on this recommendation because they are

1059
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: very racist. But it was nominated for Best Short Subject Cartoons,

1060
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: The Original Superman Movie, Batman eighty nine, Dick Tracy, Ghost World,

1061
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: History of Violence, Dark Knight, Logan Joker. Like, there are

1062
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Speaker 3: many many movies that have been recognized by the oscars,

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Speaker 3: and there are many comic books that have been adapted

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: and being seen critically as valuable forms of art. I

1065
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: think that the way that the Internet is and the

1066
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: way that we are experiencing these movies a lot of

1067
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: times because of the way that MCU is highlighting things

1068
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: like Easter eggs, needing to make people want to read

1069
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: the comics, which to me is so exciting because I

1070
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: want people to read comics and I want them to

1071
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: love comics and understand where these stories come from. But

1072
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: I think that is where it becomes overwhelming for some people,

1073
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: where it feels like that is the only thing that

1074
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: is being talked about because that's what we're writing about.

1075
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 3: I mean, that's most of my job, and I feel

1076
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: lucky every day. I thank people who listen to the podcast.

1077
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: I thank people who love this stuff because, like you said,

1078
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: we've been preparing for this our whole life, and we

1079
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: never knew it would be able to be something we

1080
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: could live doing to talk about these things that we

1081
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: love and to revisit them. You know, I'm doing a

1082
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: lot of coverage in the lead up to The Batman,

1083
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: and I'm getting to kind of go and read a

1084
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: twelve issue AREK and do a big excavation of what

1085
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: worked about it, what do I like about it? Speaking

1086
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 3: about Jimley and his incredible art, you know, that's so brilliant.

1087
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: But I can definitely understand how in a world where

1088
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: previously a lot of the things that got to have

1089
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: that level of in depth excavation and exploration and theorizing

1090
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: and talking on what kind of what people would see

1091
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: as high art. I can understand how it can be

1092
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: a bit of a juxta, a kind of strange jarring juxtaposition.

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Speaker 1: Finally, let's any predictions for either Boba and Fennick as

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00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: characters or in the ongoing story of a potential book

1095
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: of Boba Vet season two, or even how this dovetails

1096
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: into the Mandalorian. I'm struck by listening to the size

1097
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: of the N one Starfighter tells me that Dnjar in

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Speaker 1: the Mandalorian is not going to be bounty hunting anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: There is just not There's barely any space in there.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to see I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: Monster of the Week slash Adventure of the Week kind

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Speaker 1: of stories, is my guest, But any theories as we

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Speaker 1: go forward, I.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree with you on that. I think that we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue this conversation between the Mandalorian and the

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Speaker 3: Jedi way because the truth is that sure Grogu picked

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Speaker 3: being a Mandalorian, good choice, love that for the baby

1108
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Speaker 3: happy that was the right choice, but he is definitely

1109
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Speaker 3: going to get his hands on that the.

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Speaker 1: Baby. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love Herzog so much talking about our high art

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Speaker 3: low art conversation. So having him in the Mandalorian. I

1113
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 3: talk about the baby all the time, and I always

1114
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: feel like Verna when I say out.

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Speaker 1: There is the baby.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see the baby like I would like

1117
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: to see it. But I think that people are gonna

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: Grogu is this mysterious race. He's force, powerful being. People

1119
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: are not going to leave him alone just because he

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Speaker 3: chose the man glory in way, and I think that

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Speaker 3: that is going to be our big conflict going forward.

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Speaker 3: People who want to understand the Force, people who are Jedis,

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Speaker 3: who believe that actually he should be with the Jedi.

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Speaker 3: They don't care what he picked. It's not really a choice.

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Speaker 3: It's a legacy. It's like something you have to do.

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Speaker 3: It's a duty, you know. So I think that's it.

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Speaker 3: I also think they just wanted to have him in

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Speaker 3: that cool and the boosta fighter.

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Speaker 1: I know it looks so cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I think that for Boba Fenik, the

1131
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Speaker 3: mod Squad, all of whom I really really do care about.

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Speaker 3: I love soft Boba like that works for me. I

1133
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Speaker 3: love creature work. I love animals, so that connection works.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's bottle episode appearances. I think we

1135
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Speaker 3: see different versions of them going forward. Maybe we see

1136
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: younger versions, maybe we see older I think a lot

1137
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Speaker 3: of what we're seeing now is seeding this generally expansive

1138
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: vision of how we can see people come in and

1139
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: out stories again, just like we've seen them do in

1140
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Speaker 3: this series with stuff from the animated universe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, I threw my olive branch to the

1142
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: to the folks, to the critics and the people who

1143
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: don't like Star Wars and or comics, and now I'm

1144
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: going to make them mad with this reference. I would

1145
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: not be surprised to see a book of Boba Fete

1146
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: season two that was kind of like season two of

1147
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: The Wire. Sorry I'm saying that just to make a

1148
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: critic matter, but you know where we get where it's

1149
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: not listen already. Season one was uncomfortable being purely Boba focused, right,

1150
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: So I think that that focus even widens out further.

1151
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: I would pitch a type of show that follows the

1152
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: mods for certain stories, that follows Boba, for certain stories

1153
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: that follows Fennick, for certain stories that follows the people

1154
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: in Freetown for certain stories, and is about them building

1155
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a community from the ground up, creating this tribe, and

1156
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: we follow the members of that tribe from story to story,

1157
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily focused on any one character. The book of

1158
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: Boba Fet then is like an anthology series where the

1159
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: character in the main is moss Espa and the surrounding

1160
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: areas as it as the people here struggle to build

1161
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Speaker 1: their own story, to write their own story independent of

1162
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: interference from the Pike Syndicate or anyone else from the outside.

1163
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Speaker 1: I think we'll see something like that if we get

1164
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: a Boba Fet season two, not just focused on Boba Fet,

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Speaker 1: and then for the Mandalorian I agree with you, We're

1166
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Speaker 1: getting into the real meat now, this kind of struggle

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Speaker 1: between the Mandalorian cultural influence and the Jedi cultural influence

1168
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Speaker 1: on Grogu and how Dinjarren can either remain respectful of

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Speaker 1: that or seek to influence that. I think that you

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Speaker 1: mentioned like obviously Grogu chose the chainmail, and Luke was

1171
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: apparently so pissed that he couldn't even fly Grogus like

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Speaker 1: you behaved. Yeah, are two you go fly a back.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dealing. I'm sick of this ship. I'm gonna

1174
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: sit here and just watch my droids build the time

1175
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: to kill and a stone by stone. I'm pissed, but

1176
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Speaker 1: I think that that struggle will continue. And as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know, Grogu chose a chain mail, but is also

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Speaker 1: using the force and using it with more skill and

1179
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: ability than than we've seen in the past. His powers

1180
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: are growing, his ability to call on them and growing.

1181
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Speaker 1: His comfort level with himself as a user of the

1182
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: force is growing, his confidence is growing. So I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see that more. You know, Listen, Grogu, we

1184
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: can't say it enough. He's still a baby. He's a

1185
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Speaker 1: growing baby who wants to eat, eat, eat, eat, and

1186
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: eat and play with shiny things. And as his ability

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: to use the force grows, will his How does that

1188
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: interact with his child like nature?

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Speaker 4: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Like? Does his wisdom grow to meet that? And I

1191
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: this is the part of the story that I've been

1192
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: waiting for and I can't wait to see it.

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Speaker 3: Told lest we not forget, this baby was choke forcing

1194
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: people like he was using the dark side. He was

1195
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: using the dark side, and Luke doesn't seem to know

1196
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: about that. Slash didn't necessarily teach him though we were

1197
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Speaker 3: speaking to the more duality, almost like a gray Jedi

1198
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: kind of version of Luke that we see at the

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Speaker 3: end of Jedi. But yeah, I'm really interested, and I

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Speaker 3: definitely think you're onto something like Dave Filoni, Robert Rodriguez,

1201
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: Jon Favreau. They love this serialized storytelling. They love these

1202
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Speaker 3: adventure of the week stories. They love these little arcs

1203
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: that they perfected, you know, especially Dave Filoni in the cartoons.

1204
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Speaker 3: So why not have Boba Fett and Book of Bobafette,

1205
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, pointed out it's called book. It's literally stories.

1206
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Speaker 3: You can do different stories. So I think that that's

1207
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: a really good call. I think we could likely see

1208
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Speaker 3: that be the route where that's where they get to

1209
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Speaker 3: do this style of storytelling. And I'm the Mandalorian, I'll

1210
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Speaker 3: be one of these other things. Each one's going to

1211
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Speaker 3: tell different kind of narrative, take a different kind of

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Speaker 3: narrative framework.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to talk about those stories as

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Speaker 1: they appear up next our nerd Out segment. In this

1215
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Speaker 1: week's nerd Out, our recurring segment where you tell us

1216
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: what you love and why and why we should also

1217
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: love the thing that you love Anthony pitches us on

1218
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Speaker 1: Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files series.

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Speaker 7: Hi Gang, I'm Anthony. I love the show and I

1220
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Speaker 7: wanted to take a moment to nerd out to you

1221
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Speaker 7: about one of my favorite universes to get lost in,

1222
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Speaker 7: which is called The Dresden Files. It's a series of

1223
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Speaker 7: novels by author Jim Butcher that is currently up to

1224
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Speaker 7: seventeen books long, three short story collections, a comic series,

1225
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 7: a collectible card game, and a full blown pen and

1226
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 7: Paper are. The books are an urban fantasy that take

1227
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 7: place in modern Chicago and follow our hero one Harry

1228
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 7: Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, the often touted only working Wizard PI

1229
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 7: in the Yellow Pages. He is a wise, cracking, spell

1230
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 7: slinging wizard who often helps the Chicago Police Department and

1231
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 7: other worldly organizations to solve crime and bring down batties

1232
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 7: when things start to go bump in the night. How

1233
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 7: did I get mixed up in The Dresden Files. Well,

1234
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 7: I really discovered book one called Stormfront by chance in

1235
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Speaker 7: a local bookstore, and I was immediately hooked by the

1236
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Speaker 7: witty banter, the lovable characters, and Butcher's awesome spin on

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Speaker 7: the genre. By weaving historical, mythological, and pop culture into

1238
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Speaker 7: his stories. In What Feels Fresh, why should you check

1239
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Speaker 7: out the series? Well, Dresden and his Steadfast friends tackle

1240
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 7: everything from ghosts, werewolves, demons, vampires, and evil wizards, all

1241
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 7: while he's shooting his mouth off in a way that

1242
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 7: all at once invokes Han Solo, Indiana Jones, Spider Man,

1243
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 7: and maybe even a little Deadpool. There are battles with

1244
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 7: necromancers involving zombie dinosaurs. There are prophecies and fallen angels,

1245
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 7: paladins and dragons, all happening under the nose of a

1246
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 7: very ignorant population of mortals. One of my favorite editions

1247
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: is the idea of different flavors of vampires. For example,

1248
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 7: in the Dresden Verse, vampires exist in different courts. The

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 7: Black Court is like your Dracula, the White Court is

1250
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 7: like your Twilight day Walkers, the Red Court is your

1251
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 7: dust till Dawn vamps, and the mysterious Jade Court, well,

1252
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 7: they're unconfirmed.

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Speaker 1: I also like how.

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Speaker 7: Deep Butcher dives into the idea of classic fairies, or

1255
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 7: as they prefer to be called, the she. In my opinion,

1256
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 7: it's a crying shame that the property is not really

1257
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 7: erupted into other media formats like video games, board games,

1258
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 7: or streaming series. But despite that, I think you'll really

1259
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 7: enjoy the books. We're all eagerly awaiting the release date

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01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 7: of book eighteen, but both book sixteen and seventeen came

1261
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 7: out in twenty twenty, So if you want to check

1262
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 7: out what is sure to be a hit in the

1263
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 7: near future, pick up Stormfront and you won't be disappointed.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Anthony for submitting. If you want to be featured,

1265
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: send your nerd out pitch to x Ray at crooked

1266
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: dot com. Instructions are in the show notes. Up next.

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Speaker 1: We're in the endgame now, folks. Yes, we are in

1268
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: the endgame now. And today Rosie and I ponder who

1269
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: is getting that beautiful shiny Medal of Yavin for winning

1270
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Speaker 1: the Book of Boba Fette series. We all, of course

1271
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: know that Chewbacca is not going to get it because

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Speaker 1: he was cruelly locked out of this guest being just

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Speaker 1: the disrespect echoes throughout the ages. But we are allowed

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Speaker 1: to give our medal of Yavin to anyone who we

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Speaker 1: do so please. I will go first. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with my Medal of Yeavin. Gosh, there's so you know,

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Speaker 1: the appearance of Dan Jarren in the middle of the series,

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Speaker 1: Grogu getting to see Grogu's early training with Luke on

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Speaker 1: the unnamed beautiful forested planet where Luke is currently building

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Speaker 1: his temple. But I'm going to go. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: with Sophie Thatcher, who was so fantastic in Yellow Jackets

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Speaker 1: and is having a moment right now, is wonderful in

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Speaker 1: this series as the leader of the mods co leader

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Speaker 1: of the Mods. They're kind of really they are commune,

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Speaker 1: so there's no real leadership structure, but the main no

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Speaker 1: hierarchy so to speak. But the main character along with

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Speaker 1: Scad is Sophie Thatcher's Drash And for me, the winner

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Speaker 1: is Sophie Thatcher, who is from Chicago. Sophie Thatcher's Carrie

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Speaker 1: Fisher talking to Grand Moth Tarkin esque English accent. Would

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Speaker 1: you call this a British accent you as a as

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Speaker 1: a as.

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Speaker 3: A seizen, this is this is a British accent, very

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Speaker 3: much in the legacy of Star Wars British accents, which

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Speaker 3: was Star Wars was made originally, you know, in pine Wood,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of the actors had English accents and

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Speaker 3: that kind of led to this generic English British accent

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Speaker 3: throughout Star Wars history. So I love it. That is

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Speaker 3: a great pick.

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Speaker 1: I recognized your fell stenched when I was brought on board,

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Speaker 1: says Drash. We cannot retreat from here. We must fight,

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Speaker 1: and if we retreat there will be no cover. I

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Speaker 1: was born here. It's just beautiful, beautiful work from Soviet

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Speaker 1: that er is it? Can you place it at all?

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Speaker 1: Is there? Could you give us again as an expert,

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Speaker 1: like where if you heard this in the wild? Where

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Speaker 1: could you say where this where? This accent?

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Speaker 3: There's no specific area, but it's called posh. Is a

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Speaker 3: posh accent, That's what it is. So it's like it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know how everyone thinks the English people all speak

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Speaker 3: like Mary Poppins, Like a lot of people don't think

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Speaker 3: I'm English because I don'ts be like Mary Poppins. This

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Speaker 3: is kind of the Hollywood. It's not as outrageous as

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Speaker 3: Mary Poppins, but it's like it's that she sounds posh.

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Speaker 3: She pronounces things very eloquently and kind of like that.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's definitely always the it's the Hollywood English

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Speaker 3: accent and I love it because I love Sophie Thatcher

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Speaker 3: and her hair. I would like to add that I

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Speaker 3: was going to pay pick Sophie Thatcher, so I'm adding

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Speaker 3: that she'll get the medal also for the shag cut

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Speaker 3: that I call it the share.

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Speaker 1: She is having. Man talk about two cool haircuts in

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Speaker 1: two consecutive shows, Yellowjackets and now Book of Boba. Fett

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Speaker 1: shouts to Sophie Thatcher their haircut and the accent Rosie,

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Speaker 1: who wins your medal? Of you Oven.

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Speaker 3: There's so many people, mine is like again, probably a

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Speaker 3: duel situation.

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Speaker 1: So no, just go go, let us let us know

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Speaker 1: everyth's so many things, so I think I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Grogu obviously loved the Baby loved in. I loved the

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Speaker 3: moment in the finale where he like rose himself at

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Speaker 3: dinn and then he's like tapping his helmet like take

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Speaker 3: this shit off. I want to see your face dad

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Speaker 3: like and AND's like, nah, no, there's people around, like

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Speaker 3: not right now, man, not right now. So that was

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Speaker 3: very cute. I loved to see Thundercat joining the Star

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Speaker 3: Wars universe. That was like unbelievably great casting, and that

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Speaker 3: to me is like very high up there, like, and

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Speaker 3: I love their role. It's I know it was all

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Speaker 3: a bit chintzy, but I love like a good cyberpunk story.

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Speaker 3: So the mod Squad I loved them, and the other one,

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Speaker 3: I think the real medal one because we're gonna make

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Speaker 3: up for the past with you backups. Okay, it's gotta

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Speaker 3: be black chrysandin come on, he means you.

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Speaker 1: For doing this.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: We're doing it to make history, to make history right.

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Speaker 3: But also because I loved to see the internet reaction

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Speaker 3: to this character, like seeing people first after this like sexy,

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 3: black metal wookie with like and there's all these like

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Speaker 3: images with like all these love hearts put over there,

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 3: and like, I just loved the pure outpouring that was

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Speaker 3: there for him like this, people just want to be

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 3: loved by a Wookie who can test someone's arms off

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Speaker 3: if they're better a game than them, like, and I

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Speaker 3: feel like as well as a Wookie fan. There was

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Speaker 3: a lot of cool Wookie moments, like him getting angry

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Speaker 3: in the bar because Wookies are just inherently comparitive and

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Speaker 3: he hates to see people win.

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Speaker 1: Getting to whoop some leathery Transdotionan asks us transitions are

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Speaker 1: known in slavers of Wookie people. Was like, very very cathartic.

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Speaker 1: That's a great pick and that's it for our endgame.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think one? Who is your pick for

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Speaker 1: the winner of Book of Boba fet Who would you

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Speaker 1: give your personal Medal of yeaving to hit us at

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Speaker 1: hashtag XRVN game to give us your pick. A big

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Speaker 1: thank you to Rosie Knight for joining us on x

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Speaker 1: ray Vision. Rosie plug everything, plug all your stuff, the plug,

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Speaker 1: plug it all.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's me, Rosie Knight.

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Speaker 1: I have a website.

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Speaker 3: If you google me. On that website you can read

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Speaker 3: a lot of comics. I have a lot of comics

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Speaker 3: on there that you can read for free that I

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Speaker 3: have written. I am Rosie Marx Marx on Instagram and

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Speaker 3: also Letterboxed, which I am actually updating this year, which

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Speaker 3: has been very hilarious because I have very strange tastes.

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Speaker 3: Apparently I'm learning from my letter box.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I will have some exciting comic book news coming up

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Speaker 3: soon that we have talked about that I cannot say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also if you are excited for The Batman, which

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Speaker 3: we will obviously be covering, I will have a lot

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Speaker 3: of articles coming up in the lead up and afterwards,

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Speaker 3: and if you want to read anything about The Batman now.

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Speaker 3: I interviewed Matt Reeves almost two years ago about a

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Speaker 3: really wonderful TV show that he made that was a

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Speaker 3: science fiction TV show based on a series of photographs,

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Speaker 3: and during that we just it was a really long

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Speaker 3: chat and he talked so much about The Batman, and

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Speaker 3: he talked about how much he loved Batman returns, and

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Speaker 3: he talked about all these different things to do with

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Speaker 3: them and the things that inspired him. So if you

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Speaker 3: want to have a look at that, it's there's a

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Speaker 3: few different articles on Nerdist if you just search Rosie

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Speaker 3: Night Matt Reeves. If you're excited to see Robert Pattinson,

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Speaker 3: I'm always excited to see Robert Pattinson always.

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Speaker 1: I love listen. Oh he loves And I think that

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Speaker 1: he is one of our I don't is he underrated.

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Speaker 1: I think he's an underrated actor who makes it thinks

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Speaker 1: incredibly cool choices.

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Speaker 3: He probably won't be underrated after The Batman, is my guess,

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Speaker 3: because like that's the kind of role where people will go, oh,

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Speaker 3: why was he picked for this? And then they'll find

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Speaker 3: good time or they'll find you know the lighthouse. Also,

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Speaker 3: if you want to enjoy Robert Pattinson talking about those,

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Speaker 3: GQ did this unbelievable twenty minute interview of him introducing

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Speaker 3: his most iconic characters, and it's a great primer on

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Speaker 3: why he was picked for the Batman, but it's also hilarious.

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Speaker 3: So that's like my favorite thing I watched this week.

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Speaker 1: Well, justice for Cedric Diggery. If you want to learn

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the rank on today. You know,

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Speaker 4: did we don't talk a lot about the fact that

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Speaker 4: Boba fet without a kind of training with it, just

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Speaker 4: connected with his rank. Call Mike. This guy loves animals

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Speaker 4: and it is paid off in a big way because

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Speaker 4: he took that rankle out for a ride and they

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Speaker 4: just demolished those Annihilator droids.

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Speaker 1: The Annihilators got annihilated.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk about irony like that, Mike. Listen,

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Speaker 4: The rank law is here to stay, Mike, and he

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Speaker 4: is here to just be a wonderful pet and a

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Speaker 4: wonderful partner for Boba Fett, who is just going to

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Speaker 4: be riding around the sands on the back of that

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Speaker 4: beautiful little beast. Mike, I gotta tell you, I gotta

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Speaker 4: say he did better than I ever thought he would

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Speaker 4: in his very first battle. The baby is here and

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Speaker 4: I just love what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 4: I'll take my hands off the air.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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