Speaker 1: What is your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Andrew.
Speaker 1: Andrew. What's going on?
Speaker 2: I am making a pizza sitting on a couch.
Speaker 1: You are making a pizza. And if I heard and
Speaker 1: did I hear this correctly, you are also sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch as you make.
Speaker 2: The pizza has just entered the oven, and I just
Speaker 2: switched over to the couch while the timer goes Houston.
Speaker 1: The pizza has entered the oven. True, you were making
Speaker 1: a pizza and sitting on the couch. How do you
Speaker 1: feel making a pizza and sitting on the couch.
Speaker 2: Not too bad, nothing to complain about, really, and kind
Speaker 2: of bored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes sometimes boring life is good. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta kind of you gotta have that. I don't think
Speaker 1: I used to think that life had to be remarkable
Speaker 1: like one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, I I still I would be
Speaker 3: lying if I said that I still don't want life
Speaker 3: to be remarkable.
Speaker 1: But I also I really do feel like, uh, the
Speaker 1: standard for remarkability can be quite low and you can
Speaker 1: still hit it. Like in a way, there's something remarkable
Speaker 1: about eating a frozen pizza, and life can be remarkable
Speaker 1: in that sense. I do I do believe that in
Speaker 1: a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a very remarkable last few years, but
Speaker 2: right now is tremendously better.
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me more about why your remarkable life
Speaker 1: is not as good as tell me why the boring
Speaker 1: life you live is better than the remarkable two years
Speaker 1: that you have had.
Speaker 2: Well, I got sober November el last year. I was
Speaker 2: having multiple surgeries throughout the year for my kidney because
Speaker 2: I was doing too much drugs, not drinking water, and
Speaker 2: not legal trouble. But I was definitely on the brink
Speaker 2: for a while. I'm sober.
Speaker 1: What sorry, go ahead, I want to let you finish.
Speaker 2: No, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: Was this was this alcohol or was it drugs? Was
Speaker 1: it all of it? It was myth Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So how long had you been doing meth for?
Speaker 2: It was probably like three and a half years. But
Speaker 2: I was on other stuff before that, like ever since
Speaker 2: I was fifteen, I was on something.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean give me the story of the
Speaker 1: whole two years if you want.
Speaker 2: There's not much to it. Like I was in a
Speaker 2: pretty dark place and I figured I just wanted to
Speaker 2: try it, Like I was already into stimulants and uppers,
Speaker 2: so I was like, might as well try the ultimate
Speaker 2: high there and definitely led to even darker places which
Speaker 2: I expected. It's not like I got anything that was
Speaker 2: too surprising, but it's definitely a dash of schizophrenia that
Speaker 2: comes with a lot of Matthews.
Speaker 1: So did you have schizophrenia before the Math or did
Speaker 1: you take the Math and the Math was like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a guy behind you.
Speaker 2: No, I had no signs of schizophrenia. It was definitely
Speaker 2: just methodist. And since I've gotten sober, it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm still schizophrenic.
Speaker 1: Do you remember anything? Do you remember, like from when
Speaker 1: you did Smoke Smoke Math. Do you remember any particularly
Speaker 1: interesting schizophrenic hallucinations that you had?
Speaker 2: Yes, I have my favorite one I ever had. It
Speaker 2: wasn't my favorite the time. It was actually terrifying. But
Speaker 2: I was driving down the road at like three am.
Speaker 2: I was up for a few days and I had
Speaker 2: no visuals leading up to this, like I didn't experience anything.
Speaker 2: And I looked in my rear view mirror and there
Speaker 2: was three humanoid foxes sprinting after my car, side by
Speaker 2: side to each other. And as soon as I saw it,
Speaker 2: it just like poofed gun. But when I saw it.
Speaker 2: My fucking heart drank.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're driving down the highway three am, high
Speaker 1: on meth and you look to outside your right window,
Speaker 1: and I saw your left window and you see like
Speaker 1: like dudes in fox furry costumes running seventy miles per
Speaker 1: hour against your car.
Speaker 2: It was the rear view mirror. So they were behind me,
Speaker 2: sprinting after me.
Speaker 1: Wow. Interesting? What do you think did that is that?
Speaker 1: You said humanoid fox? Did they look like little furry creatures?
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. I don't know much about the furries.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like people in costumes like it looked
Speaker 2: like actual boxes standing on two legs.
Speaker 1: Wow. Did any of them do shines?
Speaker 4: What? So?
Speaker 1: Is there is there? Is there any other any other
Speaker 1: hallucinations that you that you want to share that come
Speaker 1: to mind?
Speaker 2: Ah, it's hard to say. I remember I moved states.
Speaker 2: I was in Michigan when I started and ended in Indiana.
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 2: When I was in Indiana, I got a knock on
Speaker 2: the door and I went to answer it and it
Speaker 2: was my boss from Taco Bell up in Michigan, and
Speaker 2: he brought me a birthday cake, which was four months
Speaker 2: prior to my birthday, So I thought it was odd.
Speaker 2: I stood there and talked to him for a good
Speaker 2: ten minutes at least that's what I perceived it to be,
Speaker 2: and then before I knew it, poof, he was gone.
Speaker 2: I was standing there talking to no one.
Speaker 1: Holy shit? Really? Yeah, yeah, you had a you that's
Speaker 1: that's that's like I can see, like, Okay, when I
Speaker 1: think of like the three fox thing that you told me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can see like, oh, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: something weird and fucked up in my rear view mirror.
Speaker 1: That kind of feels like a dream, right, Like I
Speaker 1: can kind of imagine maybe what that felt like. But
Speaker 1: you had and the minute, But you had a ten
Speaker 1: minute conversation with a dude. Yeah, wha Can you can
Speaker 1: you describe any further? Like what what that felt like?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What did it feel like when he vanished?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: It was tremendous amounts this year when he vanished, Like
Speaker 2: at first, it was really obscure to me, like why
Speaker 2: the fuck is he here with a birthday cake? Like
Speaker 2: why did he travel the states come seeing me four
Speaker 2: months before my birthday with a birthday cake? But it
Speaker 2: was so real that I never even questioned like this
Speaker 2: isn't happening.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But when he was gone and I realized that I
Speaker 2: was hallucinating, that freaked me out. That kind of had
Speaker 2: me shake gun for sure.
Speaker 1: Were you living alone at this time?
Speaker 2: No, but I was alone. M hmm, nobody else was home?
Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, and so and and and it was And
Speaker 1: at the time, you were only on mathh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I've done a bunch
Speaker 2: of other things during my time on myth, but during
Speaker 2: that time I was only on meth.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that meth made you hallucinate like
Speaker 1: that strongly. I thought it was like I thought it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I've taken an adderall pill or
Speaker 1: two in my lifetime, and I thought it was like
Speaker 1: that times ten. I didn't realize it made you like
Speaker 1: see shit.
Speaker 2: I didn't either. I had no idea that was coming.
Speaker 2: And I might have been smoking weed too. I recall
Speaker 2: My hallucinations would get very verg then if I was
Speaker 2: smoking mess and weed and I was up for a
Speaker 2: few days.
Speaker 1: Wow. And you had no prior like mental health issues.
Speaker 2: I mean I was like depressed and ship but sure, yeah,
Speaker 2: never never schizophrenia like I've tripped on apps and many
Speaker 2: many times. I've done every drug and I've never had
Speaker 2: any crazy.
Speaker 1: When I when I get depressed. When I get depressed,
Speaker 1: I too see Taco Bell employees, but they do not vanish.
Speaker 1: They give me tacos and then I van. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: cry and I in the car. So okay, so you're
Speaker 1: and you're sober now for how long?
Speaker 2: It's then two hundred and eighty five days?
Speaker 1: Wow? So you count every day?
Speaker 2: Not every day, It's like every week or two I'll
Speaker 2: check and then today I happened to check in it
Speaker 2: was to eighty five.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by check?
Speaker 2: I just google how many days has it done since
Speaker 2: November twelfth, and to see how many days it is,
Speaker 2: see how close they am do a year.
Speaker 1: So tell me about November every day. Go ahead. If
Speaker 1: you check every day.
Speaker 2: If I checked every day, then I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: putting too much thought towards it, Like I don't want
Speaker 2: my life to be I'm sober nothing else, Like I
Speaker 2: don't want that to be the main part of my life.
Speaker 2: I want Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've had someone someone told me once that they thought
Speaker 1: that sobriety like being like like like when you're obsessed
Speaker 1: with how many days it's been since you've been free
Speaker 1: from a substance, or like you're in a in a weird, annoying,
Speaker 1: paradoxical way, like restraining yourself from a substance is still
Speaker 1: a version of the substance having a hold on you, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: is so paradoxical and annoying and makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that honestly. Like, I think
Speaker 2: people can get drunk, get high, or do something and
Speaker 2: still be free from the addiction that held them before.
Speaker 2: I'm personally choosing to stay sober from everything because I
Speaker 2: don't think I have the self control to dabble. I
Speaker 2: think I would definitely go straight back to rock bottom
Speaker 2: and keep digging deeper.
Speaker 1: So tell me about November twelve. What was what was
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: I was staying with a girl at the time. She
Speaker 2: also smoked mess and we had like a super toxic relationship.
Speaker 2: Like I don't really remember how it got to the point,
Speaker 2: but I was awake for ten days and we got
Speaker 2: into a fight and I started throwing it around and
Speaker 2: breaking shit, and she ended up just calling my mom
Speaker 2: and being like, yeah, your son's done mass, Like you
Speaker 2: need to come get them and get them to rehab,
Speaker 2: which I'm twenty six. That kind of sucked, like at
Speaker 2: that my mom come take care of me, But ultimately
Speaker 2: it saved my life. Like I was smoking and sounds
Speaker 2: a week, So you know.
Speaker 1: I think that doesn't suck. I actually think that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like now in retrospect, like it it was the
Speaker 2: best thing that could have happened to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was traumatizing for my mom to see me, Like
Speaker 2: she showed up and there's meth out around the apartment.
Speaker 2: Like the apartment's fucking trash. I just fucking destroyed the TV,
Speaker 2: fucking broke windows, right, their candles around, right, right.
Speaker 1: But it's amazing. It is kind of amazing and beautiful
Speaker 1: to me because there's like so many people that you know,
Speaker 1: I talked to him on this podcast who just have
Speaker 1: like shitty parents or like their parents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so grateful to have my mom, right.
Speaker 1: It's great because like either they have shitty parents or
Speaker 1: their parents aren't in their lives or like you, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who, you know, if they were
Speaker 1: tweaking out on meth and their girlfriend called their mom,
Speaker 1: it was like you need to go pick them up.
Speaker 1: They they wouldn't respond or they wouldn't right. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's it's a it's a it's a it's weirdly
Speaker 1: a good thing.
Speaker 2: During during my time of using I felt pretty selfish
Speaker 2: because everybody I was using WES had horrible family problems.
Speaker 2: Like they all had kids they couldn't see. They all
Speaker 2: had parents that they didn't know or didn't talk to them.
Speaker 2: I had a perfect fucking family growing up. I mean,
Speaker 2: my parents were divorced, but like I still had both
Speaker 2: of them in my life. I had great siblings, and
Speaker 2: I was there like selfish, selfish enough to be fucking
Speaker 2: smoking Messler on my life well.
Speaker 5: Every day mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2: I've come to terms with it. I don't feel bad
Speaker 2: anymore about it. But then it definitely got to me.
Speaker 1: So, Okay, your mom picks you up from school early,
Speaker 1: and what what? What happens there? What happens?
Speaker 2: Then she drives me back up to Michigan where I'm
Speaker 2: living now. I stayed here for a couple of days
Speaker 2: as I got in contact with a good rehab facility.
Speaker 2: Because I was twenty five at the time, I had
Speaker 2: in turned twenty six, so I was still on her insurance,
Speaker 2: so I was able to afford like a good rehab
Speaker 2: and pretty good, probably the best thirty days of my life' there,
Speaker 2: Like it was a really good time and it worked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I mean like it didn't it's not done, Like
Speaker 2: it didn't work, but it's working, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like I can't say I'm cure, I'm fixed, but as
Speaker 2: of right now, I'm still doing good.
Speaker 1: Nice has anything replaced meth?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you into pixie Sticks or Overwatch or what's your thing?
Speaker 2: I play a lot of video games. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: playing League of Legends, which is probably a worse drug
Speaker 2: than mess, but I got up to Emerald rank and
Speaker 2: then I quit playing because that was the high enough
Speaker 2: rank for me and I know the game, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huh, I know, I said, Wow, it's so I
Speaker 1: think it's there's there's something I deeply respect about quitting
Speaker 1: the game when you've reached your uh, your your emerald
Speaker 1: rank or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Lee was literally a drug for me as well, Like
Speaker 2: I would be addicted of playing it. I'd get up
Speaker 2: early to play it, play for a few hours, get
Speaker 2: back up, keep playing all day and I hate it
Speaker 2: every minute of that. So like it was good to
Speaker 2: get off it. Lately, I've been playing the Earthbound series.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, that's had a hold on me. Fantastic games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like those get like to me, okay, like
Speaker 1: those games. Uh like I don't know if uh, I'm
Speaker 1: curious people's thoughts on this, but okay, So to me,
Speaker 1: there's a difference. I don't really play online games. I
Speaker 1: play one online game. I play Super Smash Bros. Melee
Speaker 1: online via Slippy and I fucking love it. Uh but
Speaker 1: tell yeah, to me, there's a difference between like getting
Speaker 1: sucked in to online games like Call of Duty or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck people are playing right now, versus like
Speaker 1: sitting down to play a linear, story driven single player experience,
Speaker 1: you know, because motherfuckers will sit and they'll they'll you know,
Speaker 1: watch forty episodes of TV like normal human beings do that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like competitive gaming, like games with the
Speaker 2: ranking system, Like the ranking system itself is the addicted part.
Speaker 1: Right right, right right, It's the ranking system is addicted,
Speaker 1: right like you're you're in the online game. It feels
Speaker 1: as though you're addicted to like the kind of slot
Speaker 1: machine gambling, whatever the fuck thing of increasing your rank
Speaker 1: whereas like if you're like I'm playing the Last of
Speaker 1: Us right now, and it's like I'm going through a
Speaker 1: linear story experience, it feels like it feels like a
Speaker 1: different thing. But maybe it's not.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, it's I don't find it to
Speaker 2: be addictive. I play it a lot because I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I never played a league because I enjoy it. I
Speaker 2: played it because I wanted to get better and I
Speaker 2: was addicted to it was like a self reflection thing.
Speaker 2: If I'm badly ranked, I view myself poorly stupid, like
Speaker 2: not smart enough to get there with Earthnound. I'm just
Speaker 2: playing it because it's fucking fun. You know.
Speaker 1: It is kind of funny that for a little bit
Speaker 1: you were living in a universe where if somebody had
Speaker 1: a poor rank in League of Legends, they were a
Speaker 1: piece of shit. Like you, like you're just walking like
Speaker 1: you're just walking down the street and being like this guy,
Speaker 1: what a fucking loser, dude. They're probably bronze.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I vocalize it, that's kind of fucked.
Speaker 1: But right because because then you you you reflect it
Speaker 1: back onto yourself.
Speaker 4: YEA.
Speaker 2: Well, my brother he played league with me, and he
Speaker 2: had a fucking mental breakdown because he's iron ranked and
Speaker 2: I was climbing and he was just fucking like why
Speaker 2: am I so stupid? Like can't I do it?
Speaker 1: So I guess before we go, what's your dream? And London?
Speaker 1: Now that now you've kicked meth, Now that you've kicked math,
Speaker 1: what do you What are you gonna do? You're gonna
Speaker 1: go to Disney World? That wasn't funny? What are you
Speaker 1: going to do now that you kicked meths?
Speaker 2: I want to go to nursing school. I think going
Speaker 2: to nursing school would be cool. It's great, make a
Speaker 2: lot of money, I get to help people.
Speaker 1: Great and a life of drugs.
Speaker 2: You end up learning a lot about health and ship
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: So I think, hey, congratulations, man, that's awesome. I I
Speaker 1: like uh as the kids say, I love that for you,
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: It was a pleasure talk to you, man.
Speaker 1: Pleasure talking too. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: And no, don't play league, don't smoke mess.
Speaker 1: Words to live by all right? Take care man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: See never played earth Bound. I heard it's good, though,
Speaker 1: I heard it's good. I love video games. I might
Speaker 1: have talked about this in the podcast before. I have
Speaker 1: short term memory loss. I think it might be because
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's pot I don't know if it's just how
Speaker 1: my brain is wired, if my parents were like this.
Speaker 1: But I just have short term memory loss. So forgive
Speaker 1: me if I've gone on the same exact rant in
Speaker 1: literally ten different podcast episodes. But uh, I know I
Speaker 1: love video games. I've decided, I've decided, finitely, definitively that
Speaker 1: I love video games. I've probably played thousands of matches
Speaker 1: of Super Smash Brothers Melee, and when I'm when I'm dying,
Speaker 1: when I'm a you know, if I'm lucky enough to
Speaker 1: be like on a deathbed, I've everyone imagines a deathbed,
Speaker 1: but I don't think, you know, everyone gets one. Some
Speaker 1: people just get hit by a car in the street.
Speaker 1: But if I'm lucky enough to get a deathbed when
Speaker 1: it comes, when I when reflecting on my life, when
Speaker 1: I'm reflecting on the amount of time that I've spent
Speaker 1: playing Super Smash Brothers in Melee, i will be. I'll happy,
Speaker 1: I'll die with it. I'll be if I'm I'm fully
Speaker 1: sitting there, controller in hand, the Mento Moriri, aware that
Speaker 1: that I my time on this earth is precious and
Speaker 1: limited to such an insane degree. I'm I'm my lifespan
Speaker 1: is but a blink on the timeline of everything that
Speaker 1: ever was or anything that ever will be, and that
Speaker 1: time is the most precious thing ever, and I'm choosing
Speaker 1: to spend it playing Super Smash Brothers Melee happily, happily.
Speaker 1: So I don't uh, I don't know. I don't make
Speaker 1: myself feel bad about it anymore. Attention listeners of the
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Speaker 5: From Christina, Hello, can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 5: My name's Christina?
Speaker 1: Christina? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Oh? Nothing?
Speaker 5: Just chilling? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Have we ever spoken before?
Speaker 5: We might have?
Speaker 1: We might have? Okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Am I wait? When I were talking to Lyle
Speaker 5: who I'm very confused?
Speaker 1: Would you you know what? Who cares? What's up? Christina?
Speaker 1: How can I get you today?
Speaker 5: Nothing? I'm just just looking for a conversation and some opinions.
Speaker 1: Actually sure what opinions on?
Speaker 4: What? So?
Speaker 5: I'm in my reinvention error right now. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: just went through a breakup after ten years, so I'm
Speaker 5: kind of reintegrating into the dating world, which you know,
Speaker 5: it sucks, actually does, Yeah, it definitely does. And I'm
Speaker 5: trying to think of ways to like kind of bring
Speaker 5: myself out of my shell and doing something new with
Speaker 5: my life that actually aligns with my goals. But it's
Speaker 5: kind of sketchy. And I thought of you, which is
Speaker 5: so funny because I saw it that you were alive today.
Speaker 5: I'm like, it's Tuesday, isn't that? Like, am I going crazy?
Speaker 5: You don't normally streams day?
Speaker 1: What made you think? Like you thought of me to
Speaker 1: ask me my opinion or you thought of me as
Speaker 1: an example of something.
Speaker 5: Well, I thought of you for your opinion because I
Speaker 5: was so curious. I probably could have googled it, to
Speaker 5: be honest, But like, how did you even get into
Speaker 5: this whole realm of therapy? Gack?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Well I got I got kind of lucky. I mean
Speaker 1: I've been making videos and doing things on the internet
Speaker 1: for a good I had been doing I had been
Speaker 1: making videos and doing things on the internet for like
Speaker 1: a good ten years, and then I just got lucky
Speaker 1: with the Reddit Public access network. I got in on
Speaker 1: that at a good time, and I got in on
Speaker 1: TikTok at a good time, and lo and behold, I've
Speaker 1: kind of dragged that out for four years, and I
Speaker 1: am and the roads have all led me to this
Speaker 1: moment as I'm talking to you.
Speaker 5: Have you always been a gek?
Speaker 1: No? No, I have only been a gek for four years.
Speaker 1: But tell me more about this reinvention. What are you
Speaker 1: trying to reinvent?
Speaker 5: I just want to get out of the corporate world
Speaker 5: and kind of build something for myself and gain the
Speaker 5: confidence again. Yeah, so it's been really hard. I mean so,
Speaker 5: like I mentioned, I just got out of a relationship
Speaker 5: for ten years because I found out that they were
Speaker 5: cheating on me. So that was like a really big
Speaker 5: blow to your ego. So I'm kind of trying to
Speaker 5: find something to do, and I was entertaining the idea
Speaker 5: of getting into streaming, which I know a lot of
Speaker 5: people say, I've always had that desire, but it seems
Speaker 5: so scary. It's like such a scary place to break into.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, what seems scary about it.
Speaker 5: Probably just the judgment. I mean, being a gamer girl
Speaker 5: for as many years as I've been it's very rare,
Speaker 5: well not rare, actually it's getting a lot better. But
Speaker 5: there's a lot of negative masculine energy in that space,
Speaker 5: and like a lot of judgment and perception. So that's
Speaker 5: always a scary thing to be vulnerable to.
Speaker 1: What are you What are you afraid of being judged about?
Speaker 5: I don't know if I've ever thought about it very particularly,
Speaker 5: like kind of everything, whether it's perception of like self
Speaker 5: and image, because you know that's a huge component of it, personality,
Speaker 5: just anything I think I get in my own way sometimes,
Speaker 5: but I'm trying to break out of that.
Speaker 4: M hm m.
Speaker 1: So. So so when you say you're trying to reinvent yourself,
Speaker 1: get out of the corporate world and start streaming, are
Speaker 1: you saying you want to like start you want to
Speaker 1: kind of quit your job to become a streamer.
Speaker 5: It is definitely a thought that has happened, But because
Speaker 5: of the financial security, I feel like that would be insane.
Speaker 1: Well I don't. I only think it would be insane
Speaker 1: to I only I only think it would be insane
Speaker 1: to quit your job to do something that you haven't
Speaker 1: even started. Yeah, so I think before, I guess I
Speaker 1: think before thinking about quitting your job to do something,
Speaker 1: you should start doing it, but not to try, not
Speaker 1: even because it might not be successful, but because you
Speaker 1: might not even like it.
Speaker 5: That is true. I feel like I would be really
Speaker 5: good in the space. So it's just kind of talking
Speaker 5: to people networking and figuring out how other people accomplished
Speaker 5: it and seeing if I can build some confidence through that.
Speaker 1: Well, why don't you do it?
Speaker 5: But others experience? I think I might, and I do.
Speaker 5: I like your platform and kind of how you've done
Speaker 5: it because I love talking to people. And even though
Speaker 5: I play video games all the time, I'm not good
Speaker 5: at them, so I don't think my games play would
Speaker 5: actually be that great.
Speaker 1: I don't think that video game streaming is necessarily about gameplay.
Speaker 1: I think it's mainly about uh, you know, personality.
Speaker 5: Makes That's true. Kind I just have to stream into.
Speaker 1: It, Yeah, you just have to, Like, like I mean you,
Speaker 1: I don't know if is this? Is this the thing
Speaker 1: that you wanted my opinion on.
Speaker 5: Kind of all of that, but also like, am I
Speaker 5: just going crazy? Is this my midlife crisis? The violence
Speaker 5: of my.
Speaker 1: My opinion is that my opinion doesn't matter. It's like
Speaker 1: if you if you have an inkling of an idea
Speaker 1: that something might be fun and interesting to you, then
Speaker 1: just do it. You know, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very true.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's chinker.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: If if you want to get into streaming, just tinker
Speaker 1: around with it, you know, go download stream labs and
Speaker 1: fire it up and just start fucking around, you know,
Speaker 1: now if you want to. If you're if you're talking
Speaker 1: about like how do I start making money and how
Speaker 1: do I grow and all that stuff, I don't even
Speaker 1: think you're not even if you haven't even like turned
Speaker 1: to the camera on and started and done the thing,
Speaker 1: you know, then you're not You're not even You're not
Speaker 1: even there yet. You got to just give it a shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. The whole monetizing thing is just a
Speaker 5: whole other piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 1: And then that you at, what were you at? What
Speaker 1: was the second thing you were?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Am I going crazy?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like I feel like, is this the equivalent of
Speaker 5: like the Red Corvette mid life crisis? Like, you know,
Speaker 5: I just turned thirty, you know, I, like I said,
Speaker 5: I've been in the relationship for ten years. I'm now
Speaker 5: re entering this world and I'm just like, hmm, maybe
Speaker 5: this is not a cret the idea that maybe it is.
Speaker 1: Well, some people's idea of a crazy bid life crisis
Speaker 1: is to drown their children in a bathtub, So I
Speaker 1: think video game streaming is not that crazy in comparison.
Speaker 5: That makes me feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to lower the bar a lot in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, I guess crazy because there's some
Speaker 1: it could be worse.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it could. But dating right now really
Speaker 5: just sucks too.
Speaker 1: How are you how long have you been out of
Speaker 1: this relationship for.
Speaker 5: It's been out three and a half months.
Speaker 1: Okay, why are you on hinge? What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: I did try hinge and it was I just did
Speaker 5: not like it. I got off dating apps as soon
Speaker 5: as I could, not really feeling that I don't know
Speaker 5: how to organically meet people. So I do outside activities
Speaker 5: and you know, try to get into a neutral space,
Speaker 5: but doesn't really work as well.
Speaker 1: Mhmm. You know, I I've struggled with dating a lot
Speaker 1: in my life, and I'm also on kind of a
Speaker 1: journey to find a like a proper mindset or uh
Speaker 1: I guess I guess conclusion to it, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have one, but I part of part of me,
Speaker 1: like I I kind of wean back and forth because
Speaker 1: I'm like part of me part of me thinks, you know,
Speaker 1: you need to just learn to be happy on your own,
Speaker 1: and then another large part of me believes that that
Speaker 1: is complete, utter bullshit, right because every single song, every movie,
Speaker 1: every conventional piece of wisdom has always told us that
Speaker 1: the most important things, the most important thing in our
Speaker 1: life is our relationships, you know, and love. And so
Speaker 1: it's hard to look that in the face and go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't need it. It's hard. It's hard,
Speaker 1: if not nigh impossible. So I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a conclusion on that.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 5: I mean it does make me feel better that I'm
Speaker 5: at least not the only one in that mindset, like
Speaker 5: a lot of There's so many people that I just
Speaker 5: see that are in happy relationships or like super happy independent,
Speaker 5: and I'm like trying to find the neutral territory in
Speaker 5: between it. But yeah, like you said, it's kind of
Speaker 5: kind of shitty. I love myself. I think that my
Speaker 5: company is great, and you know, being with a partner
Speaker 5: obviously helps a lot but the intrum is is like
Speaker 5: a really weird space to be in.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's it is, A is a it is and at
Speaker 1: times and but for me and at times a pretty
Speaker 1: miserable space to be And I think, yeah, but depending
Speaker 1: on how you view it. I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I I go back, this is, this is,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the happiness battle is how
Speaker 1: much of how much of this is external? How much
Speaker 1: of this is is? Have you what what what rungs
Speaker 1: on the Maslow hierarchy of needs? Have you uh uh
Speaker 1: checked off right? You know, uh, your your relationships, personal achievements, respect,
Speaker 1: all the all those things versus how much of that
Speaker 1: is bullshit? And you actually just need to sit and
Speaker 1: decide for yourself and your brain that you are happy.
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I don't think any scientists knows.
Speaker 1: I think you just kind of struggle to figure it
Speaker 1: out until you die. Maybe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: Actually, And now.
Speaker 5: I don't feel the cynical and crazy because you also.
Speaker 1: Think that, well, good, I hope that, I hope. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to hear that my cynicism and craziness is helping
Speaker 1: me feel better about your own. Well, what game are
Speaker 1: you going to stream?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I don't know. I've been playing a
Speaker 5: lot of the Finals, but I'm really bad at that.
Speaker 5: And outside of that, I'm actually trying to find a
Speaker 5: really good, like open world sandbox game, and that's been
Speaker 5: proving pretty difficult because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I've played all you ever play Red Dead Redemption two,
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 5: I have it, and I feel like I've only played
Speaker 5: maybe three hours of it, and I feel like two
Speaker 5: hours of that was just the intro of the game,
Speaker 5: so I haven't actually played a lot of it.
Speaker 1: Go play that, dude. That game is sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I'm waiting for Grant af Auto. I'm hoping that that's
Speaker 5: going to be really good worth the wait hopefully.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's it's a it's a you know, it's
Speaker 1: a good reason to stay alive. It's grand theft. I
Speaker 1: pledge to stay alive until minimum September of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: That's when I think it's coming out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, always that they delay it, i'd be sad.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Christina? Christina?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you have if you if you want to, you
Speaker 1: can plug your Twitch if you have one.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's absolutely no content on there whatsoever. If
Speaker 5: you guys want to follow me, you're more than welcome
Speaker 5: to It's baked Goods, Underscore.
Speaker 1: Bake baked goods, or space Goods Baked goods.
Speaker 5: So I went through an air of like doing a
Speaker 5: lot of baking and cake creation. That was also actually
Speaker 5: some of the content that I was thinking of making.
Speaker 5: That setup is a little bit more complex than just
Speaker 5: like sitting at your computer, though, so maybe things go right,
Speaker 5: I'll end up doing some cooking the streams and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, good luck on your on your journey of insanity. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're probably not alone, you know. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: really want, dude, just go on Reddit and if you want,
Speaker 1: if you want, if you any time and this goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking to you, I'm talking to anyone.
Speaker 1: If you want, ever in your life to feel better
Speaker 1: about how insane you are, I guarantee there are many, many,
Speaker 1: many places on the Internet where you can go to
Speaker 1: find essay length manifestos by people who are much much
Speaker 1: crazier than you are, and that might maybe that'll make
Speaker 1: you feel better about yourself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure that. Well, I'll actually have to look
Speaker 5: into that. And you know, I have one other comment
Speaker 5: that I wanted to make go ahead. You know, you
Speaker 5: asked your like, oh have I talked to you before?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So I called you when you got the sponsored streams
Speaker 5: back in the box. I don't recall if you're still sponsored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a long time ago.
Speaker 5: That was like, yeah, that was a really long time ago.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: I called in and I think I was the last
Speaker 5: caller of that. And the girl I spoke to, she
Speaker 5: was like, you know, what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 5: And I wanted to tell you this story of how
Speaker 5: we got completely oblivery that when I was in California,
Speaker 5: and she was just like, ooh, you can't say any
Speaker 5: of that stuff. She's like, it's a sponsored room. We
Speaker 5: have to be really careful what we say. Your whole
Speaker 5: chat thought that I was like an advertising bot, Like,
Speaker 5: there's no way this story is real because I had
Speaker 5: to send through the entire thing. So anybody here remembers
Speaker 5: that was not paid. There was a lot of context
Speaker 5: in that story. I could not say, but public you
Speaker 5: still have the sponsorship, you know, awesome for you, Lyle,
Speaker 5: but thanks for the conversation. I really appreciate it, and
Speaker 5: you know, have.
Speaker 4: A great day, dude.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Christina. Yeah, you know, okay, cool, I wrote
Speaker 1: it all right, Thank you, Christina. Have a good one.
Speaker 1: I good luck on your streaming journey.
Speaker 4: Thanks dud.
Speaker 1: You know, so it's funny. I used to I actually
Speaker 1: I've flipped on this and this is not uh well,
Speaker 1: I'm this is not a story of me being like, uh,
Speaker 1: this is not like a whole like I am an
Speaker 1: impath fucking thing. But I used to like be able
Speaker 1: to go on you know, you can go on like
Speaker 1: r slash depression or ur slash like. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: internet communities where you can go to basically read stories
Speaker 1: from people who are doing way worse than you to
Speaker 1: make you feel better about yourself. And it used to
Speaker 1: making me feel a little bit better. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: at least I'm not doing as badly as this person.
Speaker 1: I've actually gotten a lot of feedback on this podcast
Speaker 1: from people who say that listening to it has made
Speaker 1: them feel better about themselves because they're not doing bad
Speaker 1: as some of the people will call in and I
Speaker 1: swear on my life, this is not me being like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like a cool EmPATH guy. But lately, any lately,
Speaker 1: it's really kind of the script has flipped on me
Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, when I see or read
Speaker 1: or hear or whatever about people doing bad, I really
Speaker 1: no longer think to myself, Oh, at least I'm not
Speaker 1: as bad as this person. I mainly kind of think
Speaker 1: to myself. I mainly kind of think to myself. It
Speaker 1: makes me feel worse. It makes me feel like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: life for most people is I guess, suffering, and so
Speaker 1: I don't know how I can I take like I
Speaker 1: feel bad taking joy in a universe where so many
Speaker 1: people are suffering, not by not because I'm so cool,
Speaker 1: I swear on my life. I'm really not trying to
Speaker 1: be like that, just in this weird way of like,
Speaker 1: why is my life the way it is? And other
Speaker 1: people's lives are terrible? But it kind of also makes
Speaker 1: you feel it makes you feel bad because you're like,
Speaker 1: why am I complaining about this bullshit when other people
Speaker 1: are also have it worse. I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: explain the shift, but it's shifted from me. It doesn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel it doesn't relieve me anymore. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Actually, you know what, I do know why.
Speaker 1: It's because it's because I am Jesus Christ, and I
Speaker 1: do and I am an EmPATH, and I feel deeply
Speaker 1: the suffering and pain of others. Becau, I'm really cool
Speaker 1: and awesome. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying. We're putting this in the podcast.
Speaker 1: This is going in the podcast. This is going in the.
Speaker 5: Podcast all from.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 4: My name is Zach. Holy shit?
Speaker 1: What's up, Zach? How's it going?
Speaker 4: No, dude, you have no idea how much you made
Speaker 4: my day. Holy shit?
Speaker 1: I never thought. Thanks bro? What's going on? Life? What's up?
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it's been up and down like a roller
Speaker 4: coaster that you don't want to be on. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that. I feel that,
Speaker 1: I feel that, I feel that I'm excited to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I've you've barely said anything, and I like
Speaker 1: your spirit and I'm not I I swear in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that. I I mean it wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4: Thank you man. I called last night and yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just Oh my god, I never thought this was happening.
Speaker 4: You have no idea. Actually called last night and you
Speaker 4: was talking about you know, how you were. I know
Speaker 4: you did not talk about you, but it really uh
Speaker 4: it helped me, you know, because you were talking about it.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, even this guy can feel this
Speaker 4: kind way. You know, we can, we can we can.
Speaker 1: Talk about it for a second. I'll give some context.
Speaker 1: Uh so I will sometimes well so sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: I I I start out my stream before I take
Speaker 1: these phone calls, uh by just talking to the chat
Speaker 1: on Twitch, and I was, uh, I was going on
Speaker 1: I think a half hour rant about being depressed because
Speaker 1: I was very I had a pretty insane weekend of
Speaker 1: a really bad uh depression for you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons. And yeah, it was just really bad. I forget.
Speaker 1: Do you remember what did I do? You remember what
Speaker 1: I said?
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm weird. I took notes because you were making
Speaker 4: some profound or not.
Speaker 1: You took notes, not.
Speaker 4: Like crazy notes, but you were you kept saying at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, and you kept you were
Speaker 4: trying to come up at the end. I was like, god,
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, what did you get said?
Speaker 4: What's he gonna say? I was like, at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, you kept trying to say, like you
Speaker 4: have to be wanting to pick yourself up and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was just gonna say, like, even if you
Speaker 4: were feeling that way, it was awesome that like you
Speaker 4: still got on the streams, you know, and try to
Speaker 4: make other people feel nice. Because even there was one
Speaker 4: guy that made me feel real good. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. Some of them were a little boring,
Speaker 4: but at one guy where you still had his shirt
Speaker 4: from a couple of years ago, that was that was dope. Man.
Speaker 1: Well I saw hold on, hold on, but what what
Speaker 1: what what do you tell me about these notes that
Speaker 1: you took.
Speaker 6: Oh, I have to I'd have to take my off speakerphone,
Speaker 6: speak speakerphone, because on my phone, uh, you were just
Speaker 6: talking about like like at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: you know, you couldn't think the sense.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like, the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you got you got lay in the bed, you made
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I don't think I said that.
Speaker 4: No, you didn't say that. I was just thinking of
Speaker 4: like that was something you maybe were trying to get at.
Speaker 1: No. I think oh, no, no, okay, I think what
Speaker 1: I said was damn, I never meant to put this
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Whatever. I think what I said was that,
Speaker 1: do you you like at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I guess you have to help yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean any I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I'm honored that
Speaker 1: you took notes while I was ranting, or it was ranting.
Speaker 4: Another thing. We're just questioned. I would ask like, have
Speaker 4: you ever tried gumbo?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I've had gumbo?
Speaker 4: Okay, and then some but k Tony said you were
Speaker 4: too uh intimidated. I don't see what you would kill
Speaker 4: it on there?
Speaker 1: Bro, What do you say? Can you ask me that
Speaker 1: in the form of a complete sentence?
Speaker 4: Oh? Sorry, sorry, you know, I just you you were
Speaker 4: too intimidated to go and kill Tony. Someone asked you
Speaker 4: last night on the stream and you were like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm too intimidated to do that. But I think you oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well so yeah, someone asked me if I would
Speaker 1: go on kill Tony, and uh, I don't think I would.
Speaker 1: I'd be very intimate dated if I did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who would be Sorry, go go ahead.
Speaker 4: And then like you were talking about guests that might
Speaker 4: be on. Uh, I would think like a duncan trustle
Speaker 4: You ever heard of him?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I've actually i've fuck I've like emailed with
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I want to get him on,
Speaker 1: but he lives the way in Austin. I'll get him
Speaker 1: on eventually. He just he lives in Austin. So it's
Speaker 1: it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of I want to see him in a gecko suit
Speaker 4: and this.
Speaker 1: Be oh my god, Okay, well enough about to me.
Speaker 1: I suck. What's going on with you? Man?
Speaker 4: Uh? It's just up and down, you know the roller coaster. Uh.
Speaker 4: I just you know, I had a good little job,
Speaker 4: you know, wouldn't like, you know, somewhere I want to
Speaker 4: be both you know, good money for you know, decent
Speaker 4: money I was able to live. And then you know,
Speaker 4: that didn't work out. And then I'm working towards getting
Speaker 4: a job, but it's like all the way three hours away,
Speaker 4: and then I've just met a girl and she's closed,
Speaker 4: and then like you know, it would be long long
Speaker 4: distance and it's just as difficult. I would have to
Speaker 4: like you know, staying use all my money to say,
Speaker 4: in a hotel to basically, you know, get this job.
Speaker 4: And stuff, but uh, I don't know. It's just I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's what I want to do or anything.
Speaker 4: You know, just feel like whatever I choose is always wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, what's the old guy? Hold on? What's what's
Speaker 1: back up? What's your name?
Speaker 4: Zach?
Speaker 1: Zach? How old are you? Zach?
Speaker 4: Twenty one?
Speaker 1: Cool? All right? So you got a new job. What's
Speaker 1: the job?
Speaker 4: Uh, it's just like labor work, working for like electrical companies.
Speaker 4: Nothing too fancy. It's not like nothing I really uh
Speaker 4: do too good at, you know all or you know,
Speaker 4: work my way up at. You know. It's not any
Speaker 4: nothing you need a degree for or anything.
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad. Okay. And so you just met
Speaker 1: a girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've been we've been hanging out and
Speaker 4: she's great and like, she's really been here for me.
Speaker 4: It's just to be hard on her for me to
Speaker 4: be away, and it'd be hard on both of us,
Speaker 4: and you know, and then it's just I don't know,
Speaker 4: but it's more better money.
Speaker 1: Where's the job?
Speaker 4: Uh? Three hours away in a Baton rouge.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's a question of should you leave your
Speaker 1: hometown and your friends and your family and support network
Speaker 1: to go get more money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also like a travel job, so it'd
Speaker 4: be like I'd be Matt Rufe for a little bit,
Speaker 4: and it's gonna go somewhere else and somewhere else and
Speaker 4: somewhere else. That's one thing I didn't mention, but there's
Speaker 4: other things on top of that. I just I know
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I mean, I don't know. The
Speaker 4: job is really not something i'd be worried about. It's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to go in too much detail,
Speaker 4: but like, fuck are you saying my name? Never mind?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, people are really gonna be able to find
Speaker 1: out who you are. You know, because you said the
Speaker 1: name was Zach. You've got a lot of personal information
Speaker 1: here yet to be careful.
Speaker 4: About that, You're right. I just I'm just struggling with addiction.
Speaker 1: Not gonna lie, Okay, all right? What uh? What's what's
Speaker 1: the poison?
Speaker 4: I mean, I must I mean, I must sound corny,
Speaker 4: but like a lot of people say they can't be
Speaker 4: addicted to weed, but I mean it really has like
Speaker 4: run my life, you know.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not corny at.
Speaker 4: All, you know, I just I feel corny whenever I
Speaker 4: say it, but like it really has run my life.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean it's like, well, it's funny because
Speaker 1: you can absolutely totally be addicted to weed. It's just
Speaker 1: it's like, but they just kind of yassified weed. It's
Speaker 1: like if they made socks with heroin needles on them
Speaker 1: and sold them at the mall, then people are like,
Speaker 1: you can't get addicted to heroin. Seth Rogan does it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I almost feel like a bitch if I say like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm addicted to weed, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, but no, it's a totally it's a thing.
Speaker 1: So how long have you been smoking? For?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: It's good sounds sad. I didn't grow up too too well,
Speaker 4: but uh, this focus was I was like twelve thirteen, all.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, No, weed is totally addictive. I've tried
Speaker 1: to convince myself that it is. And I was talking.
Speaker 1: I was tweaking the other day because I and I
Speaker 1: needed to smoke, and I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: not good. This is like it's definitely a physical, physical,
Speaker 1: physically addictive things about it. Even if like you know,
Speaker 1: your cousin wants to tell you that he read on
Speaker 1: Reddit that weed is actually uh not addictive and awesome
Speaker 1: and uh, you know cures all diseases. They're wrong. I
Speaker 1: say that as I say that as a daily weed smoker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, I go ahead.
Speaker 4: How you said it could cure meta, it can like
Speaker 4: it could be treated as a medicine, just like how
Speaker 4: opious and stuff is. If they're not abused, they can't help,
Speaker 4: you know, like a you know, pain pills and stuff.
Speaker 4: If they're not abused, if you actually got in a
Speaker 4: car wreck and actually need pain pills, you're not abusing them.
Speaker 4: They actually do help you. You know, you can't abuse week.
Speaker 4: That's how. And I've been abusing it, you know, I
Speaker 4: just because I I I've had a bad day. I
Speaker 4: need to smoke a blunt. I had a good day.
Speaker 4: Oh let's celebrate with the blunt. You know, I just
Speaker 4: whatever breezon to smoke.
Speaker 1: M hmmmm, Well it's okay, Let's go back to your
Speaker 1: job thing. Because I have some thoughts on it, and
Speaker 1: they kind of can go either way, right because I think, uh, like,
Speaker 1: when you're like young, part of me wants to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, for right now, when you're young and you're
Speaker 1: like when you're twenty one, I'm kind of like chase
Speaker 1: the money and chase uh, the career for as long
Speaker 1: as you can, so that you can like set yourself
Speaker 1: up a little bit better. And also, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like whatever, when you're in your fucking forties
Speaker 1: and you have a family, you know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to leave your family to move, you know, across the
Speaker 1: country or three hours away or whatever it is to
Speaker 1: uproot your life, right but right now you know you
Speaker 1: can kind of handle uprooting your life a little bit better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But also that being said, you know, I've kind of
Speaker 1: I feel at this point, I've ridden a bit of
Speaker 1: a roller coaster that has landed me on the conclusion that,
Speaker 1: you know, your friends and family and your network are
Speaker 1: the most important thing in your entire life. They're more
Speaker 1: important than money, and they're more important than career.
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 1: Think that you kind of have to ride. You might
Speaker 1: have to ride the roller coaster to get there. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm terrified talking to you because you've taken
Speaker 1: notes on things that I've said, no, no, I saw,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm so I'm terrified. I'm terrified talking
Speaker 1: to you because I think you're actually going to listen
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 4: No, it was just last things you said last night,
Speaker 4: because I was like, it was like mostly questions.
Speaker 1: I would ask if I did get on sure, sure, sure, And.
Speaker 4: It was just like that one thing where you were like,
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you got to be
Speaker 4: the one to do it, you know.
Speaker 1: I think so well. I was talking about therapy because
Speaker 1: I've I've been, you know, in a lot of therapy
Speaker 1: and and I've been kind of like, how come you know,
Speaker 1: therapy hasn't solved all of my problems. And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: because you have to at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you have to be the one to fucking like do stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah you can. It was just so funny.
Speaker 4: I was You're just kept saying at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, we'll messing works some people think at the
Speaker 4: end of the day. And I was just like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking spaz dude. I don't know how I
Speaker 1: ever got to do a podcast.
Speaker 4: No. I love it, bro we all like it. We
Speaker 4: all do well.
Speaker 1: Thanks. Thanks man, you have a good energy. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think I I'm not just saying this, I think
Speaker 1: you'll be okay no matter what you do. You seem
Speaker 1: like a bright, positive person.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, hell yeah, I know. I know. I'm a
Speaker 4: fas too. You ever heard of Meat Canyon? He would
Speaker 4: do awesome on your podcast. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: like Yeah, yeah, you ever seen like his other YouTube
Speaker 4: channel where it's not like it's like most of his
Speaker 4: face is not his cartoons, he like reviews crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I know who. I know who that is, and
Speaker 1: I like his I like his animations a lot. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I really enjoy being in my
Speaker 1: own little court. I feel like a lot of like YouTubers,
Speaker 1: they're like interconnected and that's kind of their whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's like the it's like whatever. I like being in
Speaker 1: my own I like having my own little piece of
Speaker 1: real estate in this weird corner of the internet. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go to the high
Speaker 1: school dance and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand. How How do you feel how big
Speaker 4: of a like deal with or whenever you got? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, the biggest name I can think of
Speaker 4: is like a Dojah when you choose on, Like, how
Speaker 4: was that feeling whenever you're like, oh my god, Dose's
Speaker 4: coming on?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: It was cool? She's cool. She was great, it was
Speaker 1: it was here's here's the thing, man, And this kind
Speaker 1: of rides back to the roller coaster that I was.
Speaker 1: This is actually all everything you're asking me right now.
Speaker 1: It ties back in to, I think what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: all of these like big career things like getting a
Speaker 1: big guest on your podcast, or getting a vice thing,
Speaker 1: or getting a you know it's what a billion views
Speaker 1: on a video, or getting to play this cool festival.
Speaker 1: They're getting to do this cool thing. It's all really
Speaker 1: really cool, amazing stuff, do not get me wrong. And
Speaker 1: it's all been awesome. And I've gotten to ride a
Speaker 1: really great and beautiful roller coaster, uh and have really
Speaker 1: great experiences and all these things. But I'm gonna say funk,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. You caught me now now you're
Speaker 1: making me feel like a piece of ship. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: all that really matters is like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know what I you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like like however many views you're getting, or
Speaker 1: however many like clouded people are associating with you, like
Speaker 1: what do you fucking what are you actually doing? What
Speaker 1: are you actually making or creating or doing with your
Speaker 1: life and your time?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, That's what I'm the right now,
Speaker 6: right now, what I'm actually doing is talking to you.
Speaker 1: And it's like I can It's like, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, what I actually do is I do
Speaker 1: this show where I'm talking to people, and uh, whether
Speaker 1: whether there's millions and millions and millions of people listening
Speaker 1: to this or there's twenty, what I am actually doing
Speaker 1: remains the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like it feels like I honestly forgot
Speaker 4: I was even on the podcast to see, like you
Speaker 4: mentioned it, that's kind of crazy. You know, you're able
Speaker 4: to like take take a moment, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's not just a talk show. It feels like a
Speaker 4: I'm talking to a friend and so.
Speaker 1: What the fuck else is I gonna say? You got
Speaker 1: me on? No, no, no, no, you're you're a good dude.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what the fuck I was gonna say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's what I've been thinking about, is like, what it's
Speaker 1: like at the end of day, it's like, what are
Speaker 1: you what are you actually doing? I used to do
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up comedy before I started doing this,
Speaker 1: And I think when you're in like the stand up
Speaker 1: comedy universe, you get obsessed with the idea of like
Speaker 1: making it right, or you know of like being again
Speaker 1: in a new like you you know, you dream of
Speaker 1: like being on Netflix one day or this or that
Speaker 1: the other thing, and you kind of like you get
Speaker 1: so I think entangled with the visions of the dream
Speaker 1: of of the results and the outcome of what you're doing,
Speaker 1: that you lose sight of the fact that the only
Speaker 1: real result is just more of the process.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like if you uh, like,
Speaker 1: let's say you you start a TikTok channel making Let's
Speaker 1: let's say you let's say you make a TikTok channel
Speaker 1: making face cams of Keanu Reeves, right, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get famous on TikTok by making Keanu Reeves
Speaker 1: face cam compilation videos. And it's successful. So you know
Speaker 1: what your you know what your reward is. You get
Speaker 1: to you get to make more Keanu Reeves facecam videos. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like the reward is just you just get more
Speaker 1: of the process. That's why like big crazy accolades or whatever.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't actually affect the the thing that
Speaker 1: really matters, which is like what you are actually sitting
Speaker 1: there fucking doing, you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean? Yeah, yeah, I felt like a dumb
Speaker 4: ass of yellow was like the wrong answering class. I said, views,
Speaker 4: and you're talking about the process. That's the whole thing,
Speaker 4: is the process. I keep forgetting, you know, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was thinking about the end goal and you were teaching
Speaker 4: about me about the process. Geez.
Speaker 1: But well, hold on, I'm not teaching you about anything.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I know, I'm like, I like, this
Speaker 1: is all stuff that I know. But I want you
Speaker 1: to know. I really really want you to know that
Speaker 1: I am constant this is not and what I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you about are things that I very logically understand
Speaker 1: and know and have not internalized and successfully added into
Speaker 1: my life in any way because I am still significantly
Speaker 1: a results based thinker. I am constantly thinking. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still constantly thinking about milestones. I'm still
Speaker 1: constantly thinking like, Okay, well, once I get here, then
Speaker 1: I can do this, and then once this this happens,
Speaker 1: and this and then once this and then this which
Speaker 1: is and and which goes in and complete the way
Speaker 1: I actually think about my life, I think goes in
Speaker 1: complete antithesis to what I'm talking to you about out
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just enjoying reinforcing it to myself by
Speaker 1: talking to you about it. So maybe maybe I should
Speaker 1: be I should be taking notes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you ever you ever had a journal or
Speaker 4: ever tried having a journal? Yeah? I have.
Speaker 1: I've been on and off, but I've been keeping a
Speaker 1: journal for like seven years. Maybe.
Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah, I've only been able to do like
Speaker 4: two three days in a row and then like I'll
Speaker 4: this a week. O.
Speaker 1: God, it's not seven years. It's not every day for
Speaker 1: seven years. Jesus. Oh yeah, Okay, what have you been
Speaker 1: journaling about?
Speaker 4: Oh? Just I mean I have to be I mean
Speaker 4: I've gotten I mean I feel like I've gotten a
Speaker 4: little better. Before I felt like a lot of pressure,
Speaker 4: you know, it felt like I had to be a philosopher.
Speaker 4: You know, I had to be fancy, you know, write
Speaker 4: paragraphs and stuff, and you know, I had to be
Speaker 4: detailed and stuff. But then now it's just like you know,
Speaker 4: now I'm just writing, like, you know, four or five
Speaker 4: sentences on how my day went and I feel good.
Speaker 4: You know, does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, Like before
Speaker 4: it was like I was talking about in the morning,
Speaker 4: I did this and blah blah blah. But now it's
Speaker 4: just like, oh, I saw, you know this pretty bird.
Speaker 4: You know, it made my day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's real. I think seeing
Speaker 1: a pretty bird is kind of everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I try to stay positive, you know, it's just
Speaker 4: a I don't know, it's just whenever, you know, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, it's hard to
Speaker 4: stay positive whenever. You know, I live in my own
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a roommate or anything. I
Speaker 4: live in a shitty trailer. It's a crazy you know,
Speaker 4: just a no good you know. I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: you know, get.
Speaker 1: Uh you live in a trailer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I live in a like a trailer park or
Speaker 4: city trailer.
Speaker 1: Do you and you live by yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean here's the thing. You live way
Speaker 1: better than most people in New York City.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, guess you're right.
Speaker 1: What I mean, do you have do you have a lot?
Speaker 1: Do you have like? Uh, do you have space in
Speaker 1: the trailer to be a person?
Speaker 4: I mean it's a one bedroom of one, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: like a living room and stuff. But it's just like
Speaker 4: there's no central air. My uh, washing dry don't work,
Speaker 4: so I have to go to the laundry. Matt. Uh,
Speaker 4: my icebox doesn't have a light bulb. Uh, there's no doors.
Speaker 4: It's just am I sound like a negative Nancy? You
Speaker 4: know you brought up a good point on living better
Speaker 4: than a lot of people, you know.
Speaker 1: I I man, yeah, I it's I feel so perceived
Speaker 1: talking to you. I I normally I I it's funny
Speaker 1: because again I do a show where I know that
Speaker 1: I put these out and people listen to them. But
Speaker 1: in talking to specifically you, it's the only time I
Speaker 1: feel perceived perceived.
Speaker 4: Can you receive? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know you know what the word perceived means?
Speaker 4: Right? Oh? Like scene? I mean yeah, maybe, okay, That's
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking of, perceived eyes you know scene? Yeah? Right? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you own the trailer or do you rented it?
Speaker 4: No? No, I'm definitely renting this piece of ship. No.
Speaker 4: I uh, I rented for six hundred a month. And
Speaker 4: that was a little rude.
Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you mean that? Why was what? What?
Speaker 1: What in any shape or form was rude about what
Speaker 1: you just said.
Speaker 4: Oh, I just my bad. I'm I'm from the down South,
Speaker 4: so sometimes interview cussin, you know, I just you know,
Speaker 4: I felt like I was rude saying that, like this
Speaker 4: piece of ship?
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever listened to this show?
Speaker 4: Yes? I have, Yes, I have, and there's been some
Speaker 4: crazy people.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can say ship, you can say yeah, cut,
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want.
Speaker 4: Oh that sounds like a nails on a talkboard down here?
Speaker 1: What okay? Where do you stay?
Speaker 4: To you in Louisiana?
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I'm really like, I I'm not again, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this to Yankee or fucking whatever. I'm really
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about you at all. You have a
Speaker 1: good uh uh you see. You really seem like you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Be all right. Well, it's I don't know, you have
Speaker 4: no idea. I was laying in bed, you know, just
Speaker 4: uh you know, you know, like a potato, I guess.
Speaker 4: And then as soon as whenever, I was like hello,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't like a you know, the hello, this
Speaker 4: is Sarah the gecko. The line is either busy you know.
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that after the hello, I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's him, so like you just you
Speaker 4: bothed me out of bed man, like I was, I
Speaker 4: was shaking for a good minute. You have no idea.
Speaker 4: You really made my day.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you're you're I want to talk more
Speaker 1: about your dilemma about Baton Rouge. Yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: think you're gonna do?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not too sure because it's just like a
Speaker 4: situation of like the I have a dog too, you know,
Speaker 4: I say, I'm alone, It's just me and my buddy
Speaker 4: the names Johnny Cash. Yeah, he's he's awesome. He's sitting
Speaker 4: here right next to me. He's up my butt. But
Speaker 4: uh uh, I'm just worried about him. You know, I
Speaker 4: have to find a hotel where he can come with me.
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm not leaving my dog anywhere. You know,
Speaker 4: he's like my son. I know that's corny. I know
Speaker 4: I keep saying that, but uh and then you know,
Speaker 4: I go go to a hotel and you know, figure
Speaker 4: that out pretty much all my money. Uh then wait
Speaker 4: for my check and then see where we go from there.
Speaker 4: I think the next next one is like a couple
Speaker 4: more hours away, and it's just It's scary, you know,
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm I live on my own and
Speaker 4: stuff with like my mom. You know, I can go
Speaker 4: to my mom or my dad's house if I don't
Speaker 4: want to cook dinner or eat I say cookednn eat
Speaker 4: a hot pocket that night, you know, Uh, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 4: It's just if I move, It's just like where I
Speaker 4: say move, if I go on the road, it's just
Speaker 4: we're gonna just go home or go to the hotel
Speaker 4: or wherever I'm at.
Speaker 1: I'll able to can I ask you what is your
Speaker 1: what's your ultimate dream? Like if you could do anything,
Speaker 1: what would you do?
Speaker 4: I mean my ultimate dream? Honestly, I mean that's a
Speaker 4: hard question because like that I've been asking myself that
Speaker 4: too recently. I just dang, you hit me, hit me hard,
Speaker 4: get go. I'm sorry if I just get taken a second. Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 4: ultimate dream? Uh ship, I don't know. I guess it's
Speaker 4: just uh like my ultimate dream, no matter like what
Speaker 4: job I have, what I've done in my life, I
Speaker 4: want to be able to like leave something for my
Speaker 4: kids because my parent aren't able to do that for
Speaker 4: me and my family, you know, Uh, I'm not talking
Speaker 4: bad to my parents. They've really done better now with
Speaker 4: their life. But like the only thing they own is
Speaker 4: a car, you know, and they rent and stuff and
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. But I want to be
Speaker 4: able to, you know, leave a house or something for
Speaker 4: my kids, or leave something for you know, future. That
Speaker 4: makes sense. That's an ultimate dream unless you're asking like
Speaker 4: a job opportunity dream.
Speaker 1: I will, I guess. I guess I'm asking like, what
Speaker 1: do you want to do with your life?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: And and I guess you know, a career is an
Speaker 1: important part of that equation, but I guess I'm asking
Speaker 1: about the whole picture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I really I want to travel for
Speaker 4: for sure, because I don't know if you've ever heard
Speaker 4: about Louisiana, but there's really not shit to do here.
Speaker 4: You know, we got a bowling alley and Putt putt.
Speaker 1: And then you know, are you anywhere near New Orleans now?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: I so Louisiana is a boot I live in like
Speaker 4: the heel, the back of the heel, and uh, it's
Speaker 4: just there's nothing nothing here we already have, Like I
Speaker 4: live close to the beaches, but it's the Gulf of Mexico.
Speaker 4: So it's just not the best and uh, this is
Speaker 4: not ship to do here. So I want to I
Speaker 4: want to travel for sure, but uh, I would have
Speaker 4: to make money to do that first. And I have
Speaker 4: to to make money and get a real job. I
Speaker 4: have to quit smoking weed. And uh it's just a
Speaker 4: bunch of things.
Speaker 1: Where all do you want to travel to?
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I like to see the United
Speaker 4: States first, you know, that's easy. My aunt, she's a
Speaker 4: my nana. She's a real big inspiration. She after her
Speaker 4: kids moved out and everything, she sold all of her ship,
Speaker 4: moved to Hawaii, you know, and we'll go visit her. Yeah,
Speaker 4: pretty dope.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's pretty dope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she bought for like five years, they're just living
Speaker 4: on the land, living in tents and ship, you know,
Speaker 4: and they building the house and then they got their
Speaker 4: house built. Shee and this is she's awesome. But I
Speaker 4: don't want to go visit her, you know, and then
Speaker 4: eventually go, you know, I want a corny again, go
Speaker 4: see the Pyramids of Egypt, you know, I want. I
Speaker 4: have to do that, you know, mm hmmmmmm.
Speaker 1: Well I feel like you can do all those things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know I can't.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to figure out, well, if I if
Speaker 1: I were, if I were you, and that's really your
Speaker 1: goal is to do all those things. I would probably
Speaker 1: see if you can try into how much can I ask?
Speaker 1: How much more money this? If can I can we
Speaker 1: get into some numbers? How much more money is this
Speaker 1: job that's far away?
Speaker 4: So per diem? It's like I would get that's really
Speaker 4: it's the same same amount of money, you know, but
Speaker 4: the per diem is really what the more money it
Speaker 4: comes in?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Uh?
Speaker 4: So do you know what per diem is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, So it's like if you live. It's like you
Speaker 4: live if your address is here, and then the job
Speaker 4: is like so many hours away, and they know you
Speaker 4: have to be written a hotel and stuff. They'll give
Speaker 4: you per diem on top of like your hourly base pay,
Speaker 4: so you'll get like for me, I'll get one hundred
Speaker 4: and ten dollars a day I'm out there per diem,
Speaker 4: So that's seven hundred not to give that.
Speaker 1: So so this job that's far away, it pays the
Speaker 1: same amount of money, yet they are giving you extra
Speaker 1: money to cover extra expenses. As a result, of it
Speaker 1: being far away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're like that.
Speaker 1: But but that's not that's not getting paid more because
Speaker 1: you have to you actually have to use that money
Speaker 1: because it's farther away. No, So it's not a job
Speaker 1: that pays more.
Speaker 4: I mean kind, it's just like so like you get
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten dollars a day per diem and like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like you don't have to I don't
Speaker 4: have to spend one hundred and ten dollars a day
Speaker 4: to live, you know, and then you get plus the
Speaker 4: sixteen an hour. So it's really like I'd be making
Speaker 4: like a little three hundred dollars a day something like that.
Speaker 1: But did you you didn't go to college, did you?
Speaker 4: No? I never went to college. I want I mean,
Speaker 4: I feel like I could. I feel like I'm smart, though.
Speaker 1: I don't know what did What do you do? What
Speaker 1: do you do again?
Speaker 4: Uh? Labor helping like electional lines whenever they whenever, like
Speaker 4: electual lines are messed up or need to be put
Speaker 4: up in the big can.
Speaker 1: You is there is there a universe where you can
Speaker 1: go to like a trade school or something.
Speaker 4: Like that for for cheap Not really, not realistically because
Speaker 4: of the money. Yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 1: What about what about like a like community college?
Speaker 4: I'd have to I don't, I mean I have, I
Speaker 4: haven't really looked too much into it. I just know
Speaker 4: that I have to pay for it. If that's it,
Speaker 4: I have to work to get the money to pay
Speaker 4: for it, you know. Mh that's up. That's all goes
Speaker 4: back down, the money, the root of all evil. M hm.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm thinking about. Doing this other job
Speaker 4: for a little bit, make more money, and maybe to
Speaker 4: school for something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it's a terrible plan.
Speaker 4: But holy shit, I can't believe I talked to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just nice. I'm glad we got to talk.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said I'm sorry just now. I think
Speaker 1: that's my default.
Speaker 4: Nah, you're fine. Uh man, this is awesome. You have
Speaker 4: no idea. You really made my day. I think you're
Speaker 4: the one I've been laying to bed all day. You
Speaker 4: maybe jump out of bed and ship. Uh. I appreciate it. Man,
Speaker 4: you're awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Zach. I think I think you're awesome. I think
Speaker 1: you're Uh, you're a cool guy. You got a brother.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I look I I I know that like life is
Speaker 1: fucking tough when the econ me is fucking tough. But
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that you. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You seem like you're you just O God. I feel
Speaker 1: like a fucking grandpa or something. But you just have
Speaker 1: a good head on your shoulders.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 1: So whatever, I'm not worried about you. I think you'll
Speaker 1: be all right.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: Nah? I mean I feel you say, I have the
Speaker 4: nice I'm gonna just be grew real quick. If you've
Speaker 4: been on if he's answered your call like three times,
Speaker 4: please give other people a chance. I've called like a
Speaker 4: year and a half.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's all I want to say.
Speaker 4: I love you, ye later, all.
Speaker 1: Right, thanks Zak, take care later.
Speaker 3: There re be Get Goos on the line taking your
Speaker 3: phone calls every night.
Speaker 1: Never be Get goes to his hide. You're just teaching
Speaker 1: you the housing your life. But he's not really an expert.