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Speaker 1: What is your name?

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Speaker 2: My name is Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Andrew. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: I am making a pizza sitting on a couch.

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Speaker 1: You are making a pizza. And if I heard and

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Speaker 1: did I hear this correctly, you are also sitting on

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Speaker 1: the couch as you make.

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Speaker 2: The pizza has just entered the oven, and I just

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Speaker 2: switched over to the couch while the timer goes Houston.

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Speaker 1: The pizza has entered the oven. True, you were making

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Speaker 1: a pizza and sitting on the couch. How do you

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Speaker 1: feel making a pizza and sitting on the couch.

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Speaker 2: Not too bad, nothing to complain about, really, and kind

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Speaker 2: of bored.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes sometimes boring life is good. I think you

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Speaker 1: gotta kind of you gotta have that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I used to think that life had to be remarkable

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Speaker 1: like one hundred percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, I I still I would be

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Speaker 3: lying if I said that I still don't want life

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Speaker 3: to be remarkable.

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Speaker 1: But I also I really do feel like, uh, the

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Speaker 1: standard for remarkability can be quite low and you can

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Speaker 1: still hit it. Like in a way, there's something remarkable

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Speaker 1: about eating a frozen pizza, and life can be remarkable

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Speaker 1: in that sense. I do I do believe that in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a very remarkable last few years, but

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Speaker 2: right now is tremendously better.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me more about why your remarkable life

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Speaker 1: is not as good as tell me why the boring

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Speaker 1: life you live is better than the remarkable two years

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Speaker 1: that you have had.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got sober November el last year. I was

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Speaker 2: having multiple surgeries throughout the year for my kidney because

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Speaker 2: I was doing too much drugs, not drinking water, and

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Speaker 2: not legal trouble. But I was definitely on the brink

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Speaker 2: for a while. I'm sober.

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Speaker 1: What sorry, go ahead, I want to let you finish.

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Speaker 2: No, you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Was this was this alcohol or was it drugs? Was

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Speaker 1: it all of it? It was myth Yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So how long had you been doing meth for?

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Speaker 2: It was probably like three and a half years. But

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Speaker 2: I was on other stuff before that, like ever since

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen, I was on something.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I mean give me the story of the

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Speaker 1: whole two years if you want.

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Speaker 2: There's not much to it. Like I was in a

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Speaker 2: pretty dark place and I figured I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: try it, Like I was already into stimulants and uppers,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, might as well try the ultimate

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Speaker 2: high there and definitely led to even darker places which

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Speaker 2: I expected. It's not like I got anything that was

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Speaker 2: too surprising, but it's definitely a dash of schizophrenia that

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Speaker 2: comes with a lot of Matthews.

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Speaker 1: So did you have schizophrenia before the Math or did

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Speaker 1: you take the Math and the Math was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy behind you.

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Speaker 2: No, I had no signs of schizophrenia. It was definitely

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Speaker 2: just methodist. And since I've gotten sober, it's not like

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Speaker 2: I'm still schizophrenic.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember anything? Do you remember, like from when

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Speaker 1: you did Smoke Smoke Math. Do you remember any particularly

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Speaker 1: interesting schizophrenic hallucinations that you had?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have my favorite one I ever had. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't my favorite the time. It was actually terrifying. But

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Speaker 2: I was driving down the road at like three am.

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Speaker 2: I was up for a few days and I had

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Speaker 2: no visuals leading up to this, like I didn't experience anything.

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Speaker 2: And I looked in my rear view mirror and there

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Speaker 2: was three humanoid foxes sprinting after my car, side by

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Speaker 2: side to each other. And as soon as I saw it,

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Speaker 2: it just like poofed gun. But when I saw it.

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Speaker 2: My fucking heart drank.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're driving down the highway three am, high

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Speaker 1: on meth and you look to outside your right window,

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Speaker 1: and I saw your left window and you see like

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Speaker 1: like dudes in fox furry costumes running seventy miles per

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Speaker 2: It was the rear view mirror. So they were behind me,

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Speaker 2: sprinting after me.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Interesting? What do you think did that is that?

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Speaker 1: You said humanoid fox? Did they look like little furry creatures?

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say. I don't know much about the furries.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look like people in costumes like it looked

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Speaker 2: like actual boxes standing on two legs.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Did any of them do shines?

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Speaker 4: What? So?

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Speaker 1: Is there is there? Is there any other any other

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Speaker 1: hallucinations that you that you want to share that come

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Speaker 2: Ah, it's hard to say. I remember I moved states.

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Speaker 2: I was in Michigan when I started and ended in Indiana.

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Speaker 4: And uh.

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Speaker 2: When I was in Indiana, I got a knock on

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Speaker 2: was my boss from Taco Bell up in Michigan, and

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Speaker 2: he brought me a birthday cake, which was four months

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Speaker 2: prior to my birthday, So I thought it was odd.

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Speaker 2: I stood there and talked to him for a good

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Speaker 2: ten minutes at least that's what I perceived it to be,

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Speaker 2: and then before I knew it, poof, he was gone.

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Speaker 2: I was standing there talking to no one.

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Speaker 1: Holy shit? Really? Yeah, yeah, you had a you that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's like I can see, like, Okay, when I

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Speaker 1: think of like the three fox thing that you told me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can see like, oh, I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: That kind of feels like a dream, right, Like I

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Speaker 1: can kind of imagine maybe what that felt like. But

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Speaker 1: you had and the minute, But you had a ten

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Speaker 1: minute conversation with a dude. Yeah, wha Can you can

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Speaker 1: you describe any further? Like what what that felt like?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: What did it feel like when he vanished?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: It was tremendous amounts this year when he vanished, Like

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Speaker 2: at first, it was really obscure to me, like why

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Speaker 2: the fuck is he here with a birthday cake? Like

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Speaker 2: why did he travel the states come seeing me four

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Speaker 2: months before my birthday with a birthday cake? But it

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Speaker 2: was so real that I never even questioned like this

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But when he was gone and I realized that I

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Speaker 2: me shake gun for sure.

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Speaker 1: Were you living alone at this time?

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Speaker 2: No, but I was alone. M hmm, nobody else was home?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, and so and and and it was And

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Speaker 1: at the time, you were only on mathh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I've done a bunch

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Speaker 2: that time I was only on meth.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that meth made you hallucinate like

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Speaker 2: I didn't either. I had no idea that was coming.

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Speaker 2: And I might have been smoking weed too. I recall

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Speaker 2: My hallucinations would get very verg then if I was

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Speaker 1: Wow. And you had no prior like mental health issues.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was like depressed and ship but sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: never never schizophrenia like I've tripped on apps and many

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Speaker 1: When I when I get depressed. When I get depressed,

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Speaker 1: I too see Taco Bell employees, but they do not vanish.

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Speaker 1: They give me tacos and then I van. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: cry and I in the car. So okay, so you're

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Speaker 1: and you're sober now for how long?

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Speaker 2: It's then two hundred and eighty five days?

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Speaker 1: Wow? So you count every day?

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Speaker 2: Not every day, It's like every week or two I'll

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Speaker 2: was to eighty five.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean by check?

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Speaker 2: I just google how many days has it done since

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Speaker 2: November twelfth, and to see how many days it is,

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Speaker 2: see how close they am do a year.

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Speaker 1: So tell me about November every day. Go ahead. If

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Speaker 1: you check every day.

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Speaker 2: If I checked every day, then I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: putting too much thought towards it, Like I don't want

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Speaker 2: I want Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've had someone someone told me once that they thought

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Speaker 1: that sobriety like being like like like when you're obsessed

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Speaker 2: I'm personally choosing to stay sober from everything because I

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Speaker 1: So tell me about November twelve. What was what was

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Speaker 2: I was staying with a girl at the time. She

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Speaker 2: Like I don't really remember how it got to the point,

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Speaker 2: and being like, yeah, your son's done mass, Like you

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Speaker 2: which I'm twenty six. That kind of sucked, like at

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Speaker 1: I think that doesn't suck. I actually think that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like now in retrospect, like it it was the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was traumatizing for my mom to see me, Like

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Speaker 2: Like the apartment's fucking trash. I just fucking destroyed the TV,

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Speaker 2: fucking broke windows, right, their candles around, right, right.

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Speaker 1: But it's amazing. It is kind of amazing and beautiful

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Speaker 1: to me because there's like so many people that you know,

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Speaker 1: I talked to him on this podcast who just have

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Speaker 1: like shitty parents or like their parents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so grateful to have my mom, right.

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Speaker 1: It's great because like either they have shitty parents or

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Speaker 1: They they wouldn't respond or they wouldn't right. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's a it's a it's a it's weirdly

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Speaker 2: During during my time of using I felt pretty selfish

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Speaker 2: I want to go to nursing school. I think going

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Speaker 5: From Christina, Hello, can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 5: My name's Christina?

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Speaker 1: How can I get you today?

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Speaker 5: I'm in my reinvention error right now. Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: cheating on me. So that was like a really big

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Speaker 5: blow to your ego. So I'm kind of trying to

444
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 5: find something to do, and I was entertaining the idea

445
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: of getting into streaming, which I know a lot of

446
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 5: people say, I've always had that desire, but it seems

447
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 5: so scary. It's like such a scary place to break into.

448
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: You know.

449
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: Well, what seems scary about it.

450
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 5: Probably just the judgment. I mean, being a gamer girl

451
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 5: for as many years as I've been it's very rare,

452
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 5: well not rare, actually it's getting a lot better. But

453
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 5: there's a lot of negative masculine energy in that space,

454
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 5: and like a lot of judgment and perception. So that's

455
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 5: always a scary thing to be vulnerable to.

456
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Speaker 1: What are you What are you afraid of being judged about?

457
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if I've ever thought about it very particularly,

458
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: like kind of everything, whether it's perception of like self

459
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 5: and image, because you know that's a huge component of it, personality,

460
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 5: just anything I think I get in my own way sometimes,

461
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: but I'm trying to break out of that.

462
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Speaker 4: M hm m.

463
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Speaker 1: So. So so when you say you're trying to reinvent yourself,

464
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: get out of the corporate world and start streaming, are

465
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: you saying you want to like start you want to

466
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: kind of quit your job to become a streamer.

467
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Speaker 5: It is definitely a thought that has happened, But because

468
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 5: of the financial security, I feel like that would be insane.

469
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Speaker 1: Well I don't. I only think it would be insane

470
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Speaker 1: to I only I only think it would be insane

471
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Speaker 1: to quit your job to do something that you haven't

472
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: even started. Yeah, so I think before, I guess I

473
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: think before thinking about quitting your job to do something,

474
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: you should start doing it, but not to try, not

475
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: even because it might not be successful, but because you

476
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: might not even like it.

477
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Speaker 5: That is true. I feel like I would be really

478
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Speaker 5: good in the space. So it's just kind of talking

479
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 5: to people networking and figuring out how other people accomplished

480
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 5: it and seeing if I can build some confidence through that.

481
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Speaker 1: Well, why don't you do it?

482
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Speaker 5: But others experience? I think I might, and I do.

483
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 5: I like your platform and kind of how you've done

484
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: it because I love talking to people. And even though

485
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: I play video games all the time, I'm not good

486
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: at them, so I don't think my games play would

487
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Speaker 5: actually be that great.

488
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Speaker 1: I don't think that video game streaming is necessarily about gameplay.

489
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: I think it's mainly about uh, you know, personality.

490
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Speaker 5: Makes That's true. Kind I just have to stream into.

491
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Speaker 1: It, Yeah, you just have to, Like, like I mean you,

492
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Speaker 1: I don't know if is this? Is this the thing

493
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Speaker 1: that you wanted my opinion on.

494
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: Kind of all of that, but also like, am I

495
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 5: just going crazy? Is this my midlife crisis? The violence

496
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 5: of my.

497
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Speaker 1: My opinion is that my opinion doesn't matter. It's like

498
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: if you if you have an inkling of an idea

499
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: that something might be fun and interesting to you, then

500
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: just do it. You know, who gives a fuck?

501
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very true.

502
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's chinker.

503
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: You know.

504
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: If if you want to get into streaming, just tinker

505
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: around with it, you know, go download stream labs and

506
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: fire it up and just start fucking around, you know,

507
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: now if you want to. If you're if you're talking

508
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: about like how do I start making money and how

509
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: do I grow and all that stuff, I don't even

510
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: think you're not even if you haven't even like turned

511
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: to the camera on and started and done the thing,

512
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, then you're not You're not even You're not

513
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: even there yet. You got to just give it a shot.

514
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. The whole monetizing thing is just a

515
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: whole other piece of the puzzle.

516
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: And then that you at, what were you at? What

517
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 1: was the second thing you were?

518
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: Like?

519
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: Am I going crazy?

520
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like I feel like, is this the equivalent of

521
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: like the Red Corvette mid life crisis? Like, you know,

522
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 5: I just turned thirty, you know, I, like I said,

523
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 5: I've been in the relationship for ten years. I'm now

524
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: re entering this world and I'm just like, hmm, maybe

525
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: this is not a cret the idea that maybe it is.

526
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, some people's idea of a crazy bid life crisis

527
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: is to drown their children in a bathtub, So I

528
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: think video game streaming is not that crazy in comparison.

529
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: That makes me feel a lot better.

530
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to lower the bar a lot in

531
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Speaker 1: terms of you know, I guess crazy because there's some

532
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: it could be worse.

533
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it could. But dating right now really

534
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: just sucks too.

535
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: How are you how long have you been out of

536
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: this relationship for.

537
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 5: It's been out three and a half months.

538
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Okay, why are you on hinge? What are you doing?

539
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: Oh?

540
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: I did try hinge and it was I just did

541
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: not like it. I got off dating apps as soon

542
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: as I could, not really feeling that I don't know

543
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: how to organically meet people. So I do outside activities

544
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 5: and you know, try to get into a neutral space,

545
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: but doesn't really work as well.

546
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Mhmm. You know, I I've struggled with dating a lot

547
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: in my life, and I'm also on kind of a

548
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: journey to find a like a proper mindset or uh

549
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: I guess I guess conclusion to it, and I don't.

550
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't have one, but I part of part of me,

551
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: like I I kind of wean back and forth because

552
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm like part of me part of me thinks, you know,

553
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: you need to just learn to be happy on your own,

554
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: and then another large part of me believes that that

555
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: is complete, utter bullshit, right because every single song, every movie,

556
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: every conventional piece of wisdom has always told us that

557
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: the most important things, the most important thing in our

558
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: life is our relationships, you know, and love. And so

559
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to look that in the face and go, yeah,

560
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't need it. It's hard. It's hard,

561
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: if not nigh impossible. So I don't know, I don't.

562
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a conclusion on that.

563
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: But.

564
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Speaker 5: I mean it does make me feel better that I'm

565
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: at least not the only one in that mindset, like

566
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 5: a lot of There's so many people that I just

567
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: see that are in happy relationships or like super happy independent,

568
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 5: and I'm like trying to find the neutral territory in

569
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: between it. But yeah, like you said, it's kind of

570
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 5: kind of shitty. I love myself. I think that my

571
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 5: company is great, and you know, being with a partner

572
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: obviously helps a lot but the intrum is is like

573
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: a really weird space to be in.

574
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, I agree with that. I agree with that.

575
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: It's it is, A is a it is and at

576
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: times and but for me and at times a pretty

577
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: miserable space to be And I think, yeah, but depending

578
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: on how you view it. I don't know, I don't know,

579
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't I I go back, this is, this is,

580
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 1: this is the this is the happiness battle is how

581
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: much of how much of this is external? How much

582
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: of this is is? Have you what what what rungs

583
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: on the Maslow hierarchy of needs? Have you uh uh

584
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: checked off right? You know, uh, your your relationships, personal achievements, respect,

585
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: all the all those things versus how much of that

586
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: is bullshit? And you actually just need to sit and

587
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: decide for yourself and your brain that you are happy.

588
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I don't think any scientists knows.

589
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: I think you just kind of struggle to figure it

590
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: out until you die. Maybe.

591
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I would agree with that.

592
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: Actually, And now.

593
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 5: I don't feel the cynical and crazy because you also.

594
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: Think that, well, good, I hope that, I hope. I'm

595
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: glad to hear that my cynicism and craziness is helping

596
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: me feel better about your own. Well, what game are

597
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: you going to stream?

598
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I don't know. I've been playing a

599
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 5: lot of the Finals, but I'm really bad at that.

600
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: And outside of that, I'm actually trying to find a

601
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: really good, like open world sandbox game, and that's been

602
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 5: proving pretty difficult because I feel.

603
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: Like I've played all you ever play Red Dead Redemption two,

604
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what.

605
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 5: I have it, and I feel like I've only played

606
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 5: maybe three hours of it, and I feel like two

607
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: hours of that was just the intro of the game,

608
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: so I haven't actually played a lot of it.

609
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Go play that, dude. That game is sick.

610
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: I'm waiting for Grant af Auto. I'm hoping that that's

612
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: going to be really good worth the wait hopefully.

613
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's it's a it's a you know, it's

614
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: a good reason to stay alive. It's grand theft. I

615
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: pledge to stay alive until minimum September of twenty twenty five.

616
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: That's when I think it's coming out.

617
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

618
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: Well, always that they delay it, i'd be sad.

619
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Christina? Christina?

620
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

621
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: Do you have if you if you want to, you

622
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: can plug your Twitch if you have one.

623
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: I mean, there's absolutely no content on there whatsoever. If

624
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: you guys want to follow me, you're more than welcome

625
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: to It's baked Goods, Underscore.

626
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Bake baked goods, or space Goods Baked goods.

627
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: So I went through an air of like doing a

628
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 5: lot of baking and cake creation. That was also actually

629
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: some of the content that I was thinking of making.

630
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: That setup is a little bit more complex than just

631
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: like sitting at your computer, though, so maybe things go right,

632
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: I'll end up doing some cooking the streams and stuff.

633
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: Well, good luck on your on your journey of insanity. Uh,

634
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: you're probably not alone, you know. I mean, if you

635
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: really want, dude, just go on Reddit and if you want,

636
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: if you want, if you any time and this goes,

637
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking to you, I'm talking to anyone.

638
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: If you want, ever in your life to feel better

639
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: about how insane you are, I guarantee there are many, many,

640
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: many places on the Internet where you can go to

641
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: find essay length manifestos by people who are much much

642
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: crazier than you are, and that might maybe that'll make

643
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: you feel better about yourself.

644
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure that. Well, I'll actually have to look

645
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 5: into that. And you know, I have one other comment

646
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 5: that I wanted to make go ahead. You know, you

647
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 5: asked your like, oh have I talked to you before?

648
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 4: Right?

649
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: So I called you when you got the sponsored streams

650
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: back in the box. I don't recall if you're still sponsored.

651
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a long time ago.

652
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: That was like, yeah, that was a really long time ago.

653
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 4: Dude.

654
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 5: I called in and I think I was the last

655
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 5: caller of that. And the girl I spoke to, she

656
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: was like, you know, what do you want to talk about?

657
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: And I wanted to tell you this story of how

658
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 5: we got completely oblivery that when I was in California,

659
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: and she was just like, ooh, you can't say any

660
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: of that stuff. She's like, it's a sponsored room. We

661
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: have to be really careful what we say. Your whole

662
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: chat thought that I was like an advertising bot, Like,

663
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 5: there's no way this story is real because I had

664
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: to send through the entire thing. So anybody here remembers

665
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 5: that was not paid. There was a lot of context

666
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: in that story. I could not say, but public you

667
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: still have the sponsorship, you know, awesome for you, Lyle,

668
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 5: but thanks for the conversation. I really appreciate it, and

669
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: you know, have.

670
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 4: A great day, dude.

671
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: Thank you, Christina. Yeah, you know, okay, cool, I wrote

672
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: it all right, Thank you, Christina. Have a good one.

673
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: I good luck on your streaming journey.

674
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: Thanks dud.

675
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, so it's funny. I used to I actually

676
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: I've flipped on this and this is not uh well,

677
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm this is not a story of me being like, uh,

678
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: this is not like a whole like I am an

679
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: impath fucking thing. But I used to like be able

680
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: to go on you know, you can go on like

681
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: r slash depression or ur slash like. There's plenty of

682
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: internet communities where you can go to basically read stories

683
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: from people who are doing way worse than you to

684
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: make you feel better about yourself. And it used to

685
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: making me feel a little bit better. I'm like, Okay,

686
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: at least I'm not doing as badly as this person.

687
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: I've actually gotten a lot of feedback on this podcast

688
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: from people who say that listening to it has made

689
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: them feel better about themselves because they're not doing bad

690
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: as some of the people will call in and I

691
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: swear on my life, this is not me being like, Oh,

692
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm like a cool EmPATH guy. But lately, any lately,

693
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: it's really kind of the script has flipped on me

694
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: in the sense of, like, when I see or read

695
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: or hear or whatever about people doing bad, I really

696
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: no longer think to myself, Oh, at least I'm not

697
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: as bad as this person. I mainly kind of think

698
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: to myself. I mainly kind of think to myself. It

699
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: makes me feel worse. It makes me feel like, oh, no,

700
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: life for most people is I guess, suffering, and so

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't know how I can I take like I

702
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: feel bad taking joy in a universe where so many

703
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: people are suffering, not by not because I'm so cool,

704
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: I swear on my life. I'm really not trying to

705
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: be like that, just in this weird way of like,

706
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: why is my life the way it is? And other

707
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: people's lives are terrible? But it kind of also makes

708
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: you feel it makes you feel bad because you're like,

709
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: why am I complaining about this bullshit when other people

710
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: are also have it worse. I don't know. I can't

711
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: explain the shift, but it's shifted from me. It doesn't

712
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel it doesn't relieve me anymore. I don't

713
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: know why. Actually, you know what, I do know why.

714
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: It's because it's because I am Jesus Christ, and I

715
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: do and I am an EmPATH, and I feel deeply

716
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the suffering and pain of others. Becau, I'm really cool

717
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: and awesome. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I

718
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm saying. We're putting this in the podcast.

719
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: This is going in the podcast. This is going in the.

720
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 5: Podcast all from.

721
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: What's your name?

722
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: My name is Zach. Holy shit?

723
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: What's up, Zach? How's it going?

724
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: No, dude, you have no idea how much you made

725
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 4: my day. Holy shit?

726
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: I never thought. Thanks bro? What's going on? Life? What's up?

727
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: What's happening?

728
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it's been up and down like a roller

729
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: coaster that you don't want to be on. Oh my god.

730
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that. I feel that,

731
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: I feel that, I feel that I'm excited to talk

732
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: to you. I've you've barely said anything, and I like

733
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: your spirit and I'm not I I swear in my life.

734
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that. I I mean it wholeheartedly.

735
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: Thank you man. I called last night and yeah, yeah, yeah,

736
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm just Oh my god, I never thought this was happening.

737
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: You have no idea. Actually called last night and you

738
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: was talking about you know, how you were. I know

739
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: you did not talk about you, but it really uh

740
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: it helped me, you know, because you were talking about it.

741
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: I was like, man, even this guy can feel this

742
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: kind way. You know, we can, we can we can.

743
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Talk about it for a second. I'll give some context.

744
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: Uh so I will sometimes well so sometimes you know,

745
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I I I start out my stream before I take

746
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: these phone calls, uh by just talking to the chat

747
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: on Twitch, and I was, uh, I was going on

748
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I think a half hour rant about being depressed because

749
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I was very I had a pretty insane weekend of

750
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: a really bad uh depression for you know, a lot

751
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: of reasons. And yeah, it was just really bad. I forget.

752
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: Do you remember what did I do? You remember what

753
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: I said?

754
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm weird. I took notes because you were making

755
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: some profound or not.

756
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: You took notes, not.

757
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: Like crazy notes, but you were you kept saying at

758
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: the end of the day, and you kept you were

759
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: trying to come up at the end. I was like, god,

760
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 4: you know, I was like, what did you get said?

761
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 4: What's he gonna say? I was like, at the end

762
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: of the day, you kept trying to say, like you

763
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: have to be wanting to pick yourself up and stuff.

764
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: And I was just gonna say, like, even if you

765
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: were feeling that way, it was awesome that like you

766
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: still got on the streams, you know, and try to

767
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: make other people feel nice. Because even there was one

768
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: guy that made me feel real good. I was like,

769
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. Some of them were a little boring,

770
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: but at one guy where you still had his shirt

771
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: from a couple of years ago, that was that was dope. Man.

772
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Well I saw hold on, hold on, but what what

773
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: what what do you tell me about these notes that

774
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: you took.

775
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: Oh, I have to I'd have to take my off speakerphone,

776
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 6: speak speakerphone, because on my phone, uh, you were just

777
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: talking about like like at the end of the day,

778
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 6: you know, you couldn't think the sense.

779
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like, the end of the day,

780
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: you got you got lay in the bed, you made

781
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 4: you know.

782
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I said that.

783
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: No, you didn't say that. I was just thinking of

784
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: like that was something you maybe were trying to get at.

785
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: No. I think oh, no, no, okay, I think what

786
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: I said was damn, I never meant to put this

787
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: in the podcast. Whatever. I think what I said was that,

788
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: do you you like at the end of the day.

789
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I guess you have to help yourself.

790
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

791
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean any I don't know.

792
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I'm honored that

793
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: you took notes while I was ranting, or it was ranting.

794
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 4: Another thing. We're just questioned. I would ask like, have

795
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 4: you ever tried gumbo?

796
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, I've had gumbo?

797
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 4: Okay, and then some but k Tony said you were

798
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 4: too uh intimidated. I don't see what you would kill

799
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: it on there?

800
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: Bro, What do you say? Can you ask me that

801
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: in the form of a complete sentence?

802
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Sorry, sorry, you know, I just you you were

803
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: too intimidated to go and kill Tony. Someone asked you

804
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: last night on the stream and you were like, oh,

805
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm too intimidated to do that. But I think you oh.

806
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, well so yeah, someone asked me if I would

807
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: go on kill Tony, and uh, I don't think I would.

808
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: I'd be very intimate dated if I did that. Yeah,

809
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: you know who would be Sorry, go go ahead.

810
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: And then like you were talking about guests that might

811
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: be on. Uh, I would think like a duncan trustle

812
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: You ever heard of him?

813
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I've actually i've fuck I've like emailed with

814
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: him a little bit. I want to get him on,

815
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: but he lives the way in Austin. I'll get him

816
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: on eventually. He just he lives in Austin. So it's

817
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: it's kind.

818
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: Of I want to see him in a gecko suit

819
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: and this.

820
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: Be oh my god, Okay, well enough about to me.

821
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: I suck. What's going on with you? Man?

822
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 4: Uh? It's just up and down, you know the roller coaster. Uh.

823
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: I just you know, I had a good little job,

824
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 4: you know, wouldn't like, you know, somewhere I want to

825
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 4: be both you know, good money for you know, decent

826
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: money I was able to live. And then you know,

827
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: that didn't work out. And then I'm working towards getting

828
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: a job, but it's like all the way three hours away,

829
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: and then I've just met a girl and she's closed,

830
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: and then like you know, it would be long long

831
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: distance and it's just as difficult. I would have to

832
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: like you know, staying use all my money to say,

833
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: in a hotel to basically, you know, get this job.

834
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 4: And stuff, but uh, I don't know. It's just I

835
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: don't know if it's what I want to do or anything.

836
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 4: You know, just feel like whatever I choose is always wrong.

837
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, what's the old guy? Hold on? What's what's

838
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: back up? What's your name?

839
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 4: Zach?

840
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Zach? How old are you? Zach?

841
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: Twenty one?

842
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: Cool? All right? So you got a new job. What's

843
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: the job?

844
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: Uh, it's just like labor work, working for like electrical companies.

845
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: Nothing too fancy. It's not like nothing I really uh

846
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: do too good at, you know all or you know,

847
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 4: work my way up at. You know. It's not any

848
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: nothing you need a degree for or anything.

849
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad. Okay. And so you just met

850
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: a girl.

851
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we've been we've been hanging out and

852
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: she's great and like, she's really been here for me.

853
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: It's just to be hard on her for me to

854
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: be away, and it'd be hard on both of us,

855
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: and you know, and then it's just I don't know,

856
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: but it's more better money.

857
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: Where's the job?

858
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: Uh? Three hours away in a Baton rouge.

859
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's a question of should you leave your

860
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: hometown and your friends and your family and support network

861
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: to go get more money.

862
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also like a travel job, so it'd

863
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 4: be like I'd be Matt Rufe for a little bit,

864
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: and it's gonna go somewhere else and somewhere else and

865
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: somewhere else. That's one thing I didn't mention, but there's

866
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: other things on top of that. I just I know

867
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people. I mean, I don't know. The

868
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: job is really not something i'd be worried about. It's like,

869
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to go in too much detail,

870
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: but like, fuck are you saying my name? Never mind?

871
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, people are really gonna be able to find

872
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: out who you are. You know, because you said the

873
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: name was Zach. You've got a lot of personal information

874
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: here yet to be careful.

875
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 4: About that, You're right. I just I'm just struggling with addiction.

876
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: Not gonna lie, Okay, all right? What uh? What's what's

877
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: the poison?

878
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I must I mean, I must sound corny,

879
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: but like a lot of people say they can't be

880
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: addicted to weed, but I mean it really has like

881
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: run my life, you know.

882
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not corny at.

883
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: All, you know, I just I feel corny whenever I

884
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 4: say it, but like it really has run my life.

885
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: You know. I mean it's like, well, it's funny because

886
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: you can absolutely totally be addicted to weed. It's just

887
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: it's like, but they just kind of yassified weed. It's

888
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: like if they made socks with heroin needles on them

889
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: and sold them at the mall, then people are like,

890
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: you can't get addicted to heroin. Seth Rogan does it.

891
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

892
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: I almost feel like a bitch if I say like, oh,

893
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: I'm addicted to weed, you.

894
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, but no, it's a totally it's a thing.

895
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: So how long have you been smoking? For?

896
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: Man?

897
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 4: It's good sounds sad. I didn't grow up too too well,

898
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 4: but uh, this focus was I was like twelve thirteen, all.

899
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: Right, all right, No, weed is totally addictive. I've tried

900
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: to convince myself that it is. And I was talking.

901
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: I was tweaking the other day because I and I

902
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: needed to smoke, and I was like, oh, this is

903
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: not good. This is like it's definitely a physical, physical,

904
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: physically addictive things about it. Even if like you know,

905
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: your cousin wants to tell you that he read on

906
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: Reddit that weed is actually uh not addictive and awesome

907
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you know cures all diseases. They're wrong. I

908
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: say that as I say that as a daily weed smoker. Yeah,

909
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: but anyway, I go ahead.

910
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: How you said it could cure meta, it can like

911
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: it could be treated as a medicine, just like how

912
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 4: opious and stuff is. If they're not abused, they can't help,

913
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 4: you know, like a you know, pain pills and stuff.

914
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: If they're not abused, if you actually got in a

915
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: car wreck and actually need pain pills, you're not abusing them.

916
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: They actually do help you. You know, you can't abuse week.

917
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: That's how. And I've been abusing it, you know, I

918
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: just because I I I've had a bad day. I

919
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: need to smoke a blunt. I had a good day.

920
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: Oh let's celebrate with the blunt. You know, I just

921
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 4: whatever breezon to smoke.

922
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: M hmmmm, Well it's okay, Let's go back to your

923
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: job thing. Because I have some thoughts on it, and

924
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: they kind of can go either way, right because I think, uh, like,

925
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: when you're like young, part of me wants to be like,

926
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, for right now, when you're young and you're

927
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: like when you're twenty one, I'm kind of like chase

928
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: the money and chase uh, the career for as long

929
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: as you can, so that you can like set yourself

930
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: up a little bit better. And also, like, you know,

931
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: when you're like whatever, when you're in your fucking forties

932
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: and you have a family, you know, you don't want

933
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: to leave your family to move, you know, across the

934
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: country or three hours away or whatever it is to

935
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: uproot your life, right but right now you know you

936
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: can kind of handle uprooting your life a little bit better. Yeah,

937
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: But also that being said, you know, I've kind of

938
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: I feel at this point, I've ridden a bit of

939
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: a roller coaster that has landed me on the conclusion that,

940
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, your friends and family and your network are

941
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: the most important thing in your entire life. They're more

942
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: important than money, and they're more important than career.

943
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: But I.

944
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Think that you kind of have to ride. You might

945
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: have to ride the roller coaster to get there. I

946
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm terrified talking to you because you've taken

947
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: notes on things that I've said, no, no, I saw,

948
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm so I'm terrified. I'm terrified talking

949
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: to you because I think you're actually going to listen

950
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: to me.

951
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: No, it was just last things you said last night,

952
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: because I was like, it was like mostly questions.

953
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: I would ask if I did get on sure, sure, sure, And.

954
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: It was just like that one thing where you were like,

955
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you got to be

956
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 4: the one to do it, you know.

957
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: I think so well. I was talking about therapy because

958
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: I've I've been, you know, in a lot of therapy

959
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: and and I've been kind of like, how come you know,

960
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: therapy hasn't solved all of my problems. And it's like, well,

961
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: because you have to at the end of the day,

962
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: you have to be the one to fucking like do stuff.

963
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 4: You know, yeah you can. It was just so funny.

964
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 4: I was You're just kept saying at the end of

965
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 4: the day, we'll messing works some people think at the

966
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: end of the day. And I was just like, okay, yeah.

967
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking spaz dude. I don't know how I

968
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: ever got to do a podcast.

969
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: No. I love it, bro we all like it. We

970
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 4: all do well.

971
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Thanks. Thanks man, you have a good energy. By the way,

972
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: I think I I'm not just saying this, I think

973
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: you'll be okay no matter what you do. You seem

974
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: like a bright, positive person.

975
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, hell yeah, I know. I know. I'm a

976
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: fas too. You ever heard of Meat Canyon? He would

977
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: do awesome on your podcast. I don't know if you

978
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: like Yeah, yeah, you ever seen like his other YouTube

979
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: channel where it's not like it's like most of his

980
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 4: face is not his cartoons, he like reviews crazy stuff.

981
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: No, I know who. I know who that is, and

982
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I like his I like his animations a lot. Uh yeah,

983
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I really enjoy being in my

984
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: own little court. I feel like a lot of like YouTubers,

985
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: they're like interconnected and that's kind of their whole thing.

986
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: It's like the it's like whatever. I like being in

987
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: my own I like having my own little piece of

988
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: real estate in this weird corner of the internet. I

989
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go to the high

990
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: school dance and.

991
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand. How How do you feel how big

992
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: of a like deal with or whenever you got? Like,

993
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, the biggest name I can think of

994
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 4: is like a Dojah when you choose on, Like, how

995
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 4: was that feeling whenever you're like, oh my god, Dose's

996
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: coming on?

997
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: Uh?

998
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: It was cool? She's cool. She was great, it was

999
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: it was here's here's the thing, man, And this kind

1000
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: of rides back to the roller coaster that I was.

1001
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: This is actually all everything you're asking me right now.

1002
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: It ties back in to, I think what you're talking about,

1003
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: all of these like big career things like getting a

1004
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: big guest on your podcast, or getting a vice thing,

1005
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: or getting a you know it's what a billion views

1006
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: on a video, or getting to play this cool festival.

1007
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: They're getting to do this cool thing. It's all really

1008
00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: really cool, amazing stuff, do not get me wrong. And

1009
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: it's all been awesome. And I've gotten to ride a

1010
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: really great and beautiful roller coaster, uh and have really

1011
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: great experiences and all these things. But I'm gonna say funk,

1012
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. You caught me now now you're

1013
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: making me feel like a piece of ship. But at

1014
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, at the end of the day,

1015
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: all that really matters is like what are you doing?

1016
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: You know what I you know what I mean. It's

1017
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: like it's like like however many views you're getting, or

1018
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: however many like clouded people are associating with you, like

1019
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: what do you fucking what are you actually doing? What

1020
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: are you actually making or creating or doing with your

1021
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: life and your time?

1022
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, That's what I'm the right now,

1023
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 6: right now, what I'm actually doing is talking to you.

1024
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: And it's like I can It's like, at the end

1025
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: of the day, what I actually do is I do

1026
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: this show where I'm talking to people, and uh, whether

1027
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 1: whether there's millions and millions and millions of people listening

1028
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: to this or there's twenty, what I am actually doing

1029
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: remains the same.

1030
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like it feels like I honestly forgot

1031
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: I was even on the podcast to see, like you

1032
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 4: mentioned it, that's kind of crazy. You know, you're able

1033
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: to like take take a moment, you know what I mean.

1034
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 4: It's not just a talk show. It feels like a

1035
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 4: I'm talking to a friend and so.

1036
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: What the fuck else is I gonna say? You got

1037
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: me on? No, no, no, no, you're you're a good dude.

1038
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what the fuck I was gonna say. Yeah,

1039
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: That's what I've been thinking about, is like, what it's

1040
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: like at the end of day, it's like, what are

1041
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: you what are you actually doing? I used to do

1042
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: a lot of stand up comedy before I started doing this,

1043
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: And I think when you're in like the stand up

1044
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: comedy universe, you get obsessed with the idea of like

1045
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: making it right, or you know of like being again

1046
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: in a new like you you know, you dream of

1047
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: like being on Netflix one day or this or that

1048
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: the other thing, and you kind of like you get

1049
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: so I think entangled with the visions of the dream

1050
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: of of the results and the outcome of what you're doing,

1051
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: that you lose sight of the fact that the only

1052
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: real result is just more of the process.

1053
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1054
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like if you uh, like,

1055
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: let's say you you start a TikTok channel making Let's

1056
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: let's say you let's say you make a TikTok channel

1057
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: making face cams of Keanu Reeves, right, and you're like,

1058
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get famous on TikTok by making Keanu Reeves

1059
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: face cam compilation videos. And it's successful. So you know

1060
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: what your you know what your reward is. You get

1061
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: to you get to make more Keanu Reeves facecam videos. Right,

1062
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: It's like the reward is just you just get more

1063
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: of the process. That's why like big crazy accolades or whatever.

1064
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't actually affect the the thing that

1065
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: really matters, which is like what you are actually sitting

1066
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: there fucking doing, you know.

1067
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 4: What I mean? Yeah, yeah, I felt like a dumb

1068
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: ass of yellow was like the wrong answering class. I said, views,

1069
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: and you're talking about the process. That's the whole thing,

1070
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 4: is the process. I keep forgetting, you know, Yeah, I

1071
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 4: was thinking about the end goal and you were teaching

1072
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 4: about me about the process. Geez.

1073
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: But well, hold on, I'm not teaching you about anything.

1074
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I know, I'm like, I like, this

1075
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: is all stuff that I know. But I want you

1076
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: to know. I really really want you to know that

1077
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I am constant this is not and what I'm talking

1078
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: to you about are things that I very logically understand

1079
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: and know and have not internalized and successfully added into

1080
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: my life in any way because I am still significantly

1081
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: a results based thinker. I am constantly thinking. I'm like, okay,

1082
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still constantly thinking about milestones. I'm still

1083
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: constantly thinking like, Okay, well, once I get here, then

1084
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I can do this, and then once this this happens,

1085
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: and this and then once this and then this which

1086
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: is and and which goes in and complete the way

1087
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: I actually think about my life, I think goes in

1088
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: complete antithesis to what I'm talking to you about out

1089
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just enjoying reinforcing it to myself by

1090
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: talking to you about it. So maybe maybe I should

1091
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: be I should be taking notes.

1092
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you ever you ever had a journal or

1093
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: ever tried having a journal? Yeah? I have.

1094
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: I've been on and off, but I've been keeping a

1095
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: journal for like seven years. Maybe.

1096
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah, I've only been able to do like

1097
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: two three days in a row and then like I'll

1098
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: this a week. O.

1099
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: God, it's not seven years. It's not every day for

1100
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: seven years. Jesus. Oh yeah, Okay, what have you been

1101
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: journaling about?

1102
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: Oh? Just I mean I have to be I mean

1103
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 4: I've gotten I mean I feel like I've gotten a

1104
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: little better. Before I felt like a lot of pressure,

1105
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: you know, it felt like I had to be a philosopher.

1106
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 4: You know, I had to be fancy, you know, write

1107
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 4: paragraphs and stuff, and you know, I had to be

1108
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 4: detailed and stuff. But then now it's just like you know,

1109
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 4: now I'm just writing, like, you know, four or five

1110
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: sentences on how my day went and I feel good.

1111
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: You know, does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, Like before

1112
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: it was like I was talking about in the morning,

1113
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: I did this and blah blah blah. But now it's

1114
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 4: just like, oh, I saw, you know this pretty bird.

1115
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: You know, it made my day.

1116
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's real. I think seeing

1117
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: a pretty bird is kind of everything.

1118
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I try to stay positive, you know, it's just

1119
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: a I don't know, it's just whenever, you know, at

1120
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, it's hard to

1121
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: stay positive whenever. You know, I live in my own

1122
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a roommate or anything. I

1123
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: live in a shitty trailer. It's a crazy you know,

1124
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 4: just a no good you know. I'm not trying to

1125
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 4: you know, get.

1126
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: Uh you live in a trailer.

1127
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I live in a like a trailer park or

1128
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: city trailer.

1129
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: Do you and you live by yourself?

1130
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1131
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean here's the thing. You live way

1132
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: better than most people in New York City.

1133
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, guess you're right.

1134
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: What I mean, do you have do you have a lot?

1135
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Do you have like? Uh, do you have space in

1136
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: the trailer to be a person?

1137
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: I mean it's a one bedroom of one, you know, uh,

1138
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: like a living room and stuff. But it's just like

1139
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 4: there's no central air. My uh, washing dry don't work,

1140
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: so I have to go to the laundry. Matt. Uh,

1141
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 4: my icebox doesn't have a light bulb. Uh, there's no doors.

1142
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: It's just am I sound like a negative Nancy? You

1143
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 4: know you brought up a good point on living better

1144
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 4: than a lot of people, you know.

1145
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: I I man, yeah, I it's I feel so perceived

1146
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: talking to you. I I normally I I it's funny

1147
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: because again I do a show where I know that

1148
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: I put these out and people listen to them. But

1149
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: in talking to specifically you, it's the only time I

1150
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: feel perceived perceived.

1151
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 4: Can you receive? Okay?

1152
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: You know you know what the word perceived means?

1153
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: Right? Oh? Like scene? I mean yeah, maybe, okay, That's

1154
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking of, perceived eyes you know scene? Yeah? Right? Yeah.

1155
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: Do you own the trailer or do you rented it?

1156
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 4: No? No, I'm definitely renting this piece of ship. No.

1157
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 4: I uh, I rented for six hundred a month. And

1158
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 4: that was a little rude.

1159
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what what do you mean that? Why was what? What?

1160
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: What in any shape or form was rude about what

1161
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: you just said.

1162
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I just my bad. I'm I'm from the down South,

1163
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: so sometimes interview cussin, you know, I just you know,

1164
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 4: I felt like I was rude saying that, like this

1165
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: piece of ship?

1166
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever listened to this show?

1167
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: Yes? I have, Yes, I have, and there's been some

1168
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 4: crazy people.

1169
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Okay, you can say ship, you can say yeah, cut,

1170
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want.

1171
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 4: Oh that sounds like a nails on a talkboard down here?

1172
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: What okay? Where do you stay?

1173
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: To you in Louisiana?

1174
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I'm really like, I I'm not again, I'm

1175
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: not saying this to Yankee or fucking whatever. I'm really

1176
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about you at all. You have a

1177
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: good uh uh you see. You really seem like you're gonna.

1178
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 4: Be all right. Well, it's I don't know, you have

1179
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: no idea. I was laying in bed, you know, just

1180
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 4: uh you know, you know, like a potato, I guess.

1181
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 4: And then as soon as whenever, I was like hello,

1182
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: and it wasn't like a you know, the hello, this

1183
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 4: is Sarah the gecko. The line is either busy you know.

1184
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that after the hello, I was like,

1185
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: oh my god, it's him, so like you just you

1186
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: bothed me out of bed man, like I was, I

1187
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,479
Speaker 4: was shaking for a good minute. You have no idea.

1188
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 4: You really made my day.

1189
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: So okay, so you're you're I want to talk more

1190
01:02:52,040 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: about your dilemma about Baton Rouge. Yeah, what do you

1191
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: think you're gonna do?

1192
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not too sure because it's just like a

1193
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: situation of like the I have a dog too, you know,

1194
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: I say, I'm alone, It's just me and my buddy

1195
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: the names Johnny Cash. Yeah, he's he's awesome. He's sitting

1196
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 4: here right next to me. He's up my butt. But

1197
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 4: uh uh, I'm just worried about him. You know, I

1198
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 4: have to find a hotel where he can come with me.

1199
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm not leaving my dog anywhere. You know,

1200
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 4: he's like my son. I know that's corny. I know

1201
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: I keep saying that, but uh and then you know,

1202
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: I go go to a hotel and you know, figure

1203
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 4: that out pretty much all my money. Uh then wait

1204
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: for my check and then see where we go from there.

1205
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 4: I think the next next one is like a couple

1206
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: more hours away, and it's just It's scary, you know,

1207
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 4: because you know, I'm I live on my own and

1208
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: stuff with like my mom. You know, I can go

1209
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: to my mom or my dad's house if I don't

1210
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 4: want to cook dinner or eat I say cookednn eat

1211
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: a hot pocket that night, you know, Uh, you know

1212
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1213
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

1214
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: It's just if I move, It's just like where I

1215
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 4: say move, if I go on the road, it's just

1216
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: we're gonna just go home or go to the hotel

1217
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: or wherever I'm at.

1218
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: I'll able to can I ask you what is your

1219
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: what's your ultimate dream? Like if you could do anything,

1220
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: what would you do?

1221
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 4: I mean my ultimate dream? Honestly, I mean that's a

1222
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 4: hard question because like that I've been asking myself that

1223
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: too recently. I just dang, you hit me, hit me hard,

1224
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 4: get go. I'm sorry if I just get taken a second. Sorry, Yeah,

1225
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: ultimate dream? Uh ship, I don't know. I guess it's

1226
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: just uh like my ultimate dream, no matter like what

1227
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: job I have, what I've done in my life, I

1228
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: want to be able to like leave something for my

1229
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 4: kids because my parent aren't able to do that for

1230
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: me and my family, you know, Uh, I'm not talking

1231
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 4: bad to my parents. They've really done better now with

1232
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: their life. But like the only thing they own is

1233
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: a car, you know, and they rent and stuff and

1234
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with that. But I want to be

1235
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: able to, you know, leave a house or something for

1236
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 4: my kids, or leave something for you know, future. That

1237
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: makes sense. That's an ultimate dream unless you're asking like

1238
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 4: a job opportunity dream.

1239
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: I will, I guess. I guess I'm asking like, what

1240
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: do you want to do with your life?

1241
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 4: You know?

1242
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: And and I guess you know, a career is an

1243
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: important part of that equation, but I guess I'm asking

1244
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: about the whole picture.

1245
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I really I want to travel for

1246
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 4: for sure, because I don't know if you've ever heard

1247
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 4: about Louisiana, but there's really not shit to do here.

1248
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 4: You know, we got a bowling alley and Putt putt.

1249
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: And then you know, are you anywhere near New Orleans now?

1250
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 3: So?

1251
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: I so Louisiana is a boot I live in like

1252
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: the heel, the back of the heel, and uh, it's

1253
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: just there's nothing nothing here we already have, Like I

1254
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 4: live close to the beaches, but it's the Gulf of Mexico.

1255
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: So it's just not the best and uh, this is

1256
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 4: not ship to do here. So I want to I

1257
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 4: want to travel for sure, but uh, I would have

1258
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 4: to make money to do that first. And I have

1259
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 4: to to make money and get a real job. I

1260
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: have to quit smoking weed. And uh it's just a

1261
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: bunch of things.

1262
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: Where all do you want to travel to?

1263
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I like to see the United

1264
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 4: States first, you know, that's easy. My aunt, she's a

1265
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: my nana. She's a real big inspiration. She after her

1266
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 4: kids moved out and everything, she sold all of her ship,

1267
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 4: moved to Hawaii, you know, and we'll go visit her. Yeah,

1268
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 4: pretty dope.

1269
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Uh, that's pretty dope.

1270
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, she bought for like five years, they're just living

1271
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 4: on the land, living in tents and ship, you know,

1272
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: and they building the house and then they got their

1273
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: house built. Shee and this is she's awesome. But I

1274
01:06:58,280 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 4: don't want to go visit her, you know, and then

1275
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 4: eventually go, you know, I want a corny again, go

1276
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 4: see the Pyramids of Egypt, you know, I want. I

1277
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 4: have to do that, you know, mm hmmmmmm.

1278
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Well I feel like you can do all those things.

1279
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know I can't.

1280
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to figure out, well, if I if

1281
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: I were, if I were you, and that's really your

1282
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: goal is to do all those things. I would probably

1283
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: see if you can try into how much can I ask?

1284
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: How much more money this? If can I can we

1285
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: get into some numbers? How much more money is this

1286
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: job that's far away?

1287
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 4: So per diem? It's like I would get that's really

1288
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 4: it's the same same amount of money, you know, but

1289
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 4: the per diem is really what the more money it

1290
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: comes in?

1291
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Uh?

1292
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: So do you know what per diem is?

1293
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1294
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 4: No, So it's like if you live. It's like you

1295
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: live if your address is here, and then the job

1296
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 4: is like so many hours away, and they know you

1297
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 4: have to be written a hotel and stuff. They'll give

1298
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 4: you per diem on top of like your hourly base pay,

1299
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 4: so you'll get like for me, I'll get one hundred

1300
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: and ten dollars a day I'm out there per diem,

1301
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 4: So that's seven hundred not to give that.

1302
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: So so this job that's far away, it pays the

1303
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: same amount of money, yet they are giving you extra

1304
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: money to cover extra expenses. As a result, of it

1305
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: being far away.

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're like that.

1307
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: But but that's not that's not getting paid more because

1308
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: you have to you actually have to use that money

1309
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: because it's farther away. No, So it's not a job

1310
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: that pays more.

1311
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 4: I mean kind, it's just like so like you get

1312
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten dollars a day per diem and like,

1313
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, like you don't have to I don't

1314
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 4: have to spend one hundred and ten dollars a day

1315
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: to live, you know, and then you get plus the

1316
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 4: sixteen an hour. So it's really like I'd be making

1317
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 4: like a little three hundred dollars a day something like that.

1318
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: But did you you didn't go to college, did you?

1319
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 4: No? I never went to college. I want I mean,

1320
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 4: I feel like I could. I feel like I'm smart, though.

1321
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what did What do you do? What

1322
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: do you do again?

1323
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 4: Uh? Labor helping like electional lines whenever they whenever, like

1324
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 4: electual lines are messed up or need to be put

1325
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 4: up in the big can.

1326
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: You is there is there a universe where you can

1327
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: go to like a trade school or something.

1328
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 4: Like that for for cheap Not really, not realistically because

1329
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 4: of the money. Yeah, m hmm.

1330
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: What about what about like a like community college?

1331
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: I'd have to I don't, I mean I have, I

1332
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 4: haven't really looked too much into it. I just know

1333
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: that I have to pay for it. If that's it,

1334
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 4: I have to work to get the money to pay

1335
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 4: for it, you know. Mh that's up. That's all goes

1336
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 4: back down, the money, the root of all evil. M hm.

1337
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm thinking about. Doing this other job

1338
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 4: for a little bit, make more money, and maybe to

1339
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 4: school for something. I don't know.

1340
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it's a terrible plan.

1341
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 4: But holy shit, I can't believe I talked to you.

1342
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just nice. I'm glad we got to talk.

1343
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you know, I don't know. I don't

1344
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: know why I said I'm sorry just now. I think

1345
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 1: that's my default.

1346
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 4: Nah, you're fine. Uh man, this is awesome. You have

1347
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 4: no idea. You really made my day. I think you're

1348
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 4: the one I've been laying to bed all day. You

1349
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: maybe jump out of bed and ship. Uh. I appreciate it. Man,

1350
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: you're awesome.

1351
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: Thanks, Zach. I think I think you're awesome. I think

1352
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: you're Uh, you're a cool guy. You got a brother.

1353
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1354
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: I look I I I know that like life is

1355
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: fucking tough when the econ me is fucking tough. But

1356
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that you. You know, I don't know.

1357
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: You seem like you're you just O God. I feel

1358
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: like a fucking grandpa or something. But you just have

1359
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: a good head on your shoulders.

1360
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 4: I just.

1361
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: So whatever, I'm not worried about you. I think you'll

1362
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: be all right.

1363
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Man.

1364
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1365
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: people the computer before we go?

1366
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 4: Nah? I mean I feel you say, I have the

1367
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: nice I'm gonna just be grew real quick. If you've

1368
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 4: been on if he's answered your call like three times,

1369
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 4: please give other people a chance. I've called like a

1370
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 4: year and a half.

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01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's all I want to say.

1372
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: I love you, ye later, all.

1373
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: Right, thanks Zak, take care later.

1374
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 3: There re be Get Goos on the line taking your

1375
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 3: phone calls every night.

1376
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: Never be Get goes to his hide. You're just teaching

1377
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: you the housing your life. But he's not really an expert.