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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name is Sean Coleman. Hope,

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Speaker 1: wherever you are and wherever you are listening, you are

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Speaker 1: having a great Thursday night. At the end of the

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Speaker 1: week is almost tier college football is right around the

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Speaker 1: corner when it comes to this weekend. But hey, once again,

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Speaker 1: we're actually here to have an enjoyable podcast when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Braves, because once again the Braves lose

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Speaker 1: three in a row, then they come back and they

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Speaker 1: win two convincing games, and that's what we're here to

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Speaker 1: talk about today. And as always, I'm joined by my

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Speaker 1: podcast partner, Stephen Tolber and Steven I'll set you up

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Speaker 1: in the best way that I can. You have been

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Speaker 1: pleading with this lineup. If you're gonna hit home runs,

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Speaker 1: do it with runners in scoring position. And on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the Braves did that at a historic level and I

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Speaker 1: was happy to see it. Steven Tober, good talking with

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Speaker 1: you as always, sir, take it away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up, Sean, Yeah, it was good to see.

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Speaker 2: We have not seen that a lot. We've seen a

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Speaker 2: lot of homers from the Braves. We talked about that

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Speaker 2: on our last show, that the Braves are actually top

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Speaker 2: five in the league and homers hit, but it's been

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Speaker 2: a ton of solo homers, and part of that has

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Speaker 2: been that's been a twofold problem. Really. Part of that

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Speaker 2: has been the fact that the Braves don't have a

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Speaker 2: great on base percentage as a team, so they don't

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Speaker 2: have a lot of opportunities to hit homers with runners

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Speaker 2: on base. But also when the Braves have had runners

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Speaker 2: on lately, they have been at their worst offensively, and

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Speaker 2: so those two things combined have just meant the Braves

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Speaker 2: And today against Cincinnati they had four three run homers,

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Speaker 2: which is historic. I saw the Braves note that it

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Speaker 2: was it's like the first time in like eighty years

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Speaker 2: or something like that that somebody has done that. Four

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Speaker 2: that never happens. And I tweeted out a few minutes

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Speaker 2: ago or about an hour ago that in total, before

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Speaker 2: today's game, the Braves had six three round homers in

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Speaker 2: the entire second half and they had four today, So,

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Speaker 2: you know, three run homers are a big deal. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was a stat a few years ago. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it update one in a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: but there was a stat of a few years ago about

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Speaker 2: how often a team who hits a three run homer

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Speaker 2: wins a game. It's absurdly high. Those are usually backbreaking homers. So,

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Speaker 2: especially when you have good pitching because you're playing a

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Speaker 2: lot of low scoring games, a three run homers often

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Speaker 2: the decider. So yeah, it was huge. It was huge

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Speaker 2: to see. It was huge to get two wins. You know,

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Speaker 2: I know Scott and Brad talked about to win last

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Speaker 2: night and so we're just going to cover this game.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, huge, huge games. You know, the Mets have

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Speaker 2: been winning, the Diamondbacks have been winning. So if nothing else,

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Speaker 2: you keep pace. You know, I know it's better if

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Speaker 2: they win too, and you just got to keep pace.

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Speaker 2: And that's what the Braves that did the last two nights,

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Speaker 2: you know, really salvage this after a really rough weekend

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Speaker 2: and then beginning of this series. And now you go

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Speaker 2: to Miami and you got a chance to continue it

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Speaker 2: and hope that maybe the Philly or the Mets and

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Speaker 2: start to gain ground again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And of course you know the Hammer Territory podcast

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Speaker 1: when and where to both, Hey, subscribe and listen to

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory. But Stephen, you hit the point on the head.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that the Braves were able to bounce back,

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Speaker 1: and hey, when the Braves have bounced back this year,

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Speaker 1: But some pointed out that, you know, he had done

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Speaker 2: he hasn't done this in a while where he's pitched.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these guys have been pitching since February, you know,

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Speaker 2: huge game. It's good that Chris is not hurt. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: like we might be getting all the Braves' best hitters

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you hit the nail on the head for

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna bring up next was the fact

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Speaker 1: expected sources of offense have really stepped up. Marcelo Zuna

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Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned it before. Matt Olsen against quality

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Speaker 1: the series against New York. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: unbelievably hot hitter. When he gets going like he can,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and putting the spotlight a bit on Michael Harris.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where we stand. Stephen, What say

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Speaker 2: I've left, and that Ozzy is back in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's no chance that Ozzie's not going to be back

430
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Speaker 2: in the lineup, of course, and I don't think there's

431
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Speaker 2: any chance Ramones coming out of the lineup. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: who my guess is what's gonna play third? I don't know, honestly.

433
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Speaker 2: I might put Win on the il because again he's

434
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Speaker 2: got a broken foot. So, like you know, if g

435
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Speaker 2: Orshela and Orlando Orcia have to handle the left side

436
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Speaker 2: of the infield for the last nine games, is that ideal? No,

437
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Speaker 2: But it hasn't been ideal for six weeks now, and

438
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Speaker 2: it is what it is. If they want to put

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Speaker 2: Wit at third and put Geo on the bench. Okay,

440
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't care. The difference between these two

441
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Speaker 2: guys is negligible at best. Now, the only part of

442
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Speaker 2: this conversation to me that is actually interesting and has

443
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Speaker 2: some validity, validity to have a discussion, is whether or

444
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Speaker 2: not you would put Gio Orshilla at shortstop over Orlando

445
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: s Heia, Because Orlando is listen, he's had a bad season,

446
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 2: but he is going through a brutal stretch right now.

447
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean it is like the at bats he's having

448
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: are just like it's somehow getting worse and worse and worse.

449
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: And Brad and Scott talked about this last night, but like, somehow,

450
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: this guy finds himself in like the most critical at

451
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: bat of every game, even when he's batting like eighth

452
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Speaker 2: or ninth, it doesn't matter. He's coming up to the

453
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Speaker 2: plate with like two or three guys on every single

454
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Speaker 2: time somehow, and he is wailing away and it's getting

455
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Speaker 2: worse and worse and worse. So like the idea of

456
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Speaker 2: having Wit and Urscella in the lineup over Arcia, I

457
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: think probably deserves some merit. Orchella has played shortstop before,

458
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Speaker 2: not great and not a big sample, so you know,

459
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be surprised at all. If they don't

460
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Speaker 2: do that, my guess is starting to morrol. Ozzy Alvi's

461
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: will play second, Romanian will play left, Gio Orchello will

462
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Speaker 2: play third, and Orlando Asseria plays short and What's just

463
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Speaker 2: going to be on the bench or maybe even the

464
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Speaker 2: il because again he's got a broken foot. But like

465
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Speaker 2: this conversation about putting Wit in the outfield for reasons

466
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Speaker 2: passing understanding, he's a worst hitter than Loreano, he's a

467
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: worst defender than Loreano, especially on a broken foot. It

468
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Speaker 2: does it never made any syst to me. I don't

469
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Speaker 2: know where it came from. I don't expect that at all.

470
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Speaker 2: I expect a very simple Ozzie goes to second, and

471
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Speaker 2: what either goes to the bench or goes to the bench.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that there is some merit to

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Speaker 1: talk about gbing at shortstop over Orlando Arcia. The reason

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Speaker 1: why I think that, you know, that's probably not going

475
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Speaker 1: to go far is because I know Arcia is not

476
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Speaker 1: an elite defender, but you know, I think it's fair

477
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Speaker 1: to say that he, you know, routinely or frequently makes

478
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Speaker 1: the routine plays and without you know, Austin Riley's improved

479
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Speaker 1: defense at third I think Brian Snicker just really values that,

480
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Speaker 1: so he that's.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a better defender at short than Urchella

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Speaker 2: is certainly. Yeah, yeah, that's not it. That's not a debate.

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Speaker 2: The only debate is like, if you look at career numbers,

484
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: like g rshelle has got like A for his career,

485
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Speaker 2: I think grsl has got like one hundred WRC plus

486
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: for his career ninety nine or something like that, where

487
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: RCA is in like the seventies. So that's the only

488
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Speaker 2: debate is like do you live with a slightly worse

489
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: defense for better offense? Right? And I'm guessing the Braves

490
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Speaker 2: will still pick the defense over anything else just because

491
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Speaker 2: you don't know how bad or sheelle it would be,

492
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Speaker 2: and it could be disastrously bad. Although he has been

493
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Speaker 2: very good defensively at third base, I do want to

494
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Speaker 2: give him credit for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, also, if you know Orlando Arcia

496
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Speaker 1: and I agree, that's the thing that I was going

497
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Speaker 1: to say when I was, you know, preparing for the

498
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Speaker 1: podcast earlier today. You know, I this exact discussion. You know,

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Speaker 1: I agree that Orlando Arcia probably is overall not as

500
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Speaker 1: good of an option in the lineup as your sell

501
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: your Shelley is. But beyond the defense, he does wind

502
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Speaker 1: up finding himselving these big moments. But I will give

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Speaker 1: Arcia credit. There have been times this year there have

504
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Speaker 1: been times that he has the livered the big hit.

505
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Speaker 1: You go back to the game last Saturday against the Dodgers.

506
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Speaker 1: The problem is is that he's been in that position

507
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Speaker 1: so frequently that there's just been far too many times

508
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Speaker 1: where he's had a horrible at that versus getting the

509
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Speaker 1: big hit. I would think if you had odds on

510
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Speaker 1: which Brave is going to have a truly big hit

511
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Speaker 1: this weekend, you would put You could easily put the

512
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Speaker 1: best odds on Rcia, but you could also easily put

513
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Speaker 1: on him. He's the guy who's probably going to have

514
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Speaker 1: the most bad at bats, So not really anything worth discussing.

515
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Speaker 1: He's going to continue to play. But I do agree

516
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Speaker 1: if the Braves were to find themselves in a situation

517
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Speaker 1: where he comes up in a big moment late in

518
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Speaker 1: the game and you want to put Geo in there

519
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Speaker 1: to hit for him, I wouldn't blame adult blame them

520
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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: But oh so yeah, real quick. I'm just going to

522
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Speaker 2: give you a stat real quick, and to be fair,

523
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: and this is not my stat. Somebody sent me this.

524
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Speaker 2: I don't remember who sent me. But there's been one

525
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty one qualified players in Major League Baseball

526
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Speaker 2: one one qualified players of Major League Baseball this year.

527
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Speaker 2: If you sort by WRC plus with runners in scoring position,

528
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Speaker 2: do you know where Orlando Orcio ranks. I'm gonna guess

529
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Speaker 2: last by a lot, last by a lot. He's won

530
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Speaker 2: sixty one. He's got a twenty one WRC plus this

531
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Speaker 2: year with runners in scoring position. So yeah, I mean

532
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Speaker 2: he's he And again he just somehow, regardless of where

533
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Speaker 2: he gets put in the lineup, he somehow is always

534
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Speaker 2: like the most critical about I don't know how it happens.

535
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Speaker 2: It's like the baseball gods just like just punching you

536
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Speaker 2: in the like gut every day. Somehow this guy is

537
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Speaker 2: the guy up in the spot. And again, one hundred

538
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 2: and sixty one qualified players in Major League Baseball, Orlando

539
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: ranks one hundred and sixty first in terms of production

540
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Speaker 2: with runners in scoring position.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, so you know, again, at the end of the day,

542
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Speaker 1: the most likely scenario Ozzie at second went at third,

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Speaker 1: and then Ramon Mariano out at left field. You may

544
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Speaker 1: see Geo get and it bat or two here. But

545
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the big thing is is you know, just going with

546
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: what you feel makes the most sense, the best overall player.

547
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: You know that you're comfort with at each position. But

548
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there should be no

549
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: discussion about Lamone Loreano Ramon Loreano being in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: And I think that if there's any concern about wit Mayfield,

551
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Speaker 1: just simply to your point, put him on the bench

552
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: or put g O out there at third.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'll say this, Jared Kelnick got

554
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Speaker 2: some starts against the Dodgers in left field. Like I

555
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: think he started two of the four games.

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Speaker 1: I don't want.

557
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that should be happening either. I think

558
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: I think Jered Kelnick should just be a bench player.

559
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: Like you should not take Ramon Loreanno out of the

560
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Speaker 2: lineup for any reason. Yeah, not only that he should

561
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: be he should be bad a like fifth, Yes, like

562
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Speaker 2: having him right behind Matt Olsen right now is working fantastic.

563
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know why you would like it's this

564
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: is like a if it ain't broke, I know, Ramon

565
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Loreanno is not actually this good. I get that, but

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about a season worth of production that

567
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: we need here. We're talking about nine more games and

568
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: you got to ride the hot hand as long as

569
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Speaker 2: it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Loreno batting fifth after the four big hitters,

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Speaker 1: proud of the catcher in the sixth position, Ozsie in

572
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Speaker 1: the seventh. You could switch Ozzie in the catcher, I

573
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: think just fine, and then Arcia and Wit or Wit

574
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Speaker 1: in Narcia. I think rounds out the lineup. But Steven,

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Speaker 1: the other thing that stands out about this weekend is

576
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Speaker 1: that the Braves are playing good offense. But the big

577
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: thing for them is this is that they're once again

578
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Speaker 1: showing that they are capable of not only winning, but

579
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Speaker 1: winning in pretty, you know, easy fashion against teams they

580
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: should be if their offense plays anywhere close to the

581
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: level that it can. But the thing about it is

582
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Speaker 1: is that this weekend the Braves have no choice but

583
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Speaker 1: to keep it going. The Braves are going to be

584
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Speaker 1: playing three games against the Marlins, the Diamondbacks, who are

585
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Speaker 1: two games against the Braves. They're going to be playing

586
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Speaker 1: two games against the Brewers in Milwaukee. The Mets are

587
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Speaker 1: going to be playing three games against Philadelphia, and both

588
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: the Brewers and philadel you still have something to play

589
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: for when it comes to playoff positioning in the National League.

590
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: The Braves by far have the easiest matchup, but they

591
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: are also two games behind. You can't lose a game

592
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: this weekend if you want to be in a favorable position,

593
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to go into next week against

594
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Speaker 1: the Mets, basically having to sweep the series to really

595
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Speaker 1: have a true shot going into the last three games

596
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: of the season to make the playoffs. You've got to

597
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: sweep the Marlins this weekend because more than likely you

598
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: would have to hope that one of or if not both,

599
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: the Mets and Diamondbacks could lose one or two games

600
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: this weekend, and if you sweep, you made up some ground.

601
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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate the Braves are in this situation, but they're

602
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: in a must win situation this weekend. They've got to

603
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Speaker 1: sweep the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do not have any margin for error, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think if they if they won two out of three,

606
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: it's very dependent on obvious what the Mets do. If

607
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: the Mets keep playing like they're playing, then yeah, even

608
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: went into it of three, he might not be enough.

609
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: If the Phillies can give you anything. And I'll say

610
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: this the you know, the the Phillies through Taiwan Walker

611
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: at the Mets tonight, and Taiwan Walker has probably been

612
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: the worst pitcher in baseball this year. And obviously the

613
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Phillies aren't desperate for every win the way the Braves

614
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: and the Mets are, so you know, that's why they

615
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: did it. But for the next three games, the Mets

616
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: actually have to face a real pitcher. They have Christopher Sanchez,

617
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: Rangers Swarz, and Zach Wheeler the next three days. So

618
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Speaker 2: if the Phillies can help you out a little bit,

619
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Speaker 2: then I think you can. I think you could survive

620
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: if you just win two of three. I don't know

621
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Speaker 2: that they necessarily have to sweep, but every win you

622
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: do pick up against the Marlins is theoretically one you

623
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: don't have to pick up against the Mets, you know,

624
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: the following the following week. You know, you just gotta

625
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: stack wins at this point. And yes, it would be

626
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: much easier just to sweep the Marlins, but the Braves

627
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: don't have Sale or Swello I'm not going in this series. Obviously,

628
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: those two guys just pitched the last two games. So

629
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Speaker 2: you've got you know, you've got Max Red, you've got

630
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Speaker 2: Charlie Morton, and you've got Grant Holmes. Are gonna pitch

631
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: it in the series. It'll be interesting to see it's gonna.

632
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I really do think it's gonna come down

633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: to the offense. The offense if if they revert back

634
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: to only scoring one or two runs, you know, when

635
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: you don't have sale or swallowing back going, it's gonna

636
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: be tough to ask, you know, Charlie Morton or Grant

637
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: Holmes to only give up, you know, one run to

638
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: win a game. So it's gonna come down to the offense,

639
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: and you know, you definitely have to just you definitely,

640
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: at the very least, you have to maintain the status

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Speaker 2: quo as as is now. You know, if you if

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Speaker 2: you do that, then you can at least convince yourself

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Speaker 2: you can sweep the Mets or even win two out

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Speaker 2: of three, and at the very least you win the

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Speaker 2: tiebreaker in that scenario, so you've actually picked up kind

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Speaker 2: of an extra game in that scenario. Even if you

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Speaker 2: even if you don't sweep the Mets. But yeah, the Braves,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they cannot lose the series. Obviously, they cannot

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Speaker 2: lose the series to the Marlins. They need to at

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Speaker 2: the very least. It's gotta be two out of three.

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Speaker 2: A sweep would be amazing. And it would also be

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Speaker 2: amazing if the Phillies and the Brewers or yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Phillies and the Brewers could help the Braves out this

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Speaker 2: weekend by you know, taking care of the Diamondbacks in

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Speaker 2: the Mets for at least a couple you know, one game,

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Speaker 2: maybe two would be tremendous, and then you know, who knows,

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Speaker 2: once you get to that series next week, you know,

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Speaker 2: you could be in a situation where you could, you know,

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Speaker 2: come out of that series with a wildcard spot locked

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Speaker 2: up if things break your way. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: very innest, but yeah, the Brede's gonna win. There's just

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Speaker 2: no more marginal rare. They don't have any room to

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Speaker 2: go through another lull of any sort. They gotta win games.

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Speaker 2: A sweep would be the absolute best the offense needs

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Speaker 2: to maintain this this hot stretch. You know, the Braids

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Speaker 2: are going through kind of their four and five strutters

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Speaker 2: and the Marlin series with Morton and Holmes, so you know,

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Speaker 2: keep scoring eight nine runs never hurts.

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Speaker 1: And one other factor in all of this is that

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Speaker 1: with with you having Grant Holmes going, I believe he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go in the second game, you already know that

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a heavy work day for your bullpen.

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Speaker 1: If the Braves offense can continue to go, then that

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Speaker 1: means that the Braves can manage their bullpen without having

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Speaker 1: to use their top guys frequently in the series over

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Speaker 1: the weekend against the Marlins, which should help them you know,

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Speaker 1: regain you know, some some some freshness for you know,

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Speaker 1: potential showdown with the Mets. So that's another big benefit. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is common sense stuff. This is this is about

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00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: as obvious as it gets. If your offense is going,

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Speaker 1: it just allows for so much more flexibility when it

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Speaker 1: comes to your pitching staff. And I'm not saying rest

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Speaker 1: starters or rest your bullpen guys, with how important each

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Speaker 1: one is. I'm just saying that if the offense is

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Speaker 1: doing its job, then you've got the ability to be

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Speaker 1: able to you know, not have to you know, stretch

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00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: out your starters or you know, use your best guys

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00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: day in and day out, and if the offense can

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Speaker 1: continue to thrive, well that just gets more and more

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Speaker 1: of a groove going for you to be able to

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Speaker 1: hopefully have it carry over to that Mets series next week. Steven,

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Speaker 1: do you have anything else with us as far as

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Speaker 1: this addition of the Hammer Territory podcast goes heading into

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Speaker 1: a big, big weekend plenty obviously to watch more, but

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Speaker 1: anything in particular you're gonna watch more in this Marlin series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about the offense. I mean, Matt Olson,

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Speaker 2: Michael Harris. You know, obviously Ozzie's coming back tomorrow, so

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna bat exclusively right handed from all reports.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I looked at the Marlin's roster. They

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Speaker 2: actually don't have a ton of lefties at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That at one point this year they had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of lefties, but they actually don't at the moment. So

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing Ozzie's gonna see a lot of right handed

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Speaker 2: pitching and that's gonna be fascinating to watch. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see where they put Ozzie in the

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Speaker 2: lineup quite honestly, you know, are they gonna kind of

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Speaker 2: upset the top of the older with Michael kind of

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Speaker 2: getting hot. Are they gonna stick them in the middle

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Speaker 2: or they can stick them near the back. I'm very

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Speaker 2: curiously what they do with Ozzie starting tomorrow. Obviously, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to see what the lineup looks like with

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Speaker 2: Wittmerfield or she Orchella, Orlando's who the corresponding move is.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing Cavin Bigio is about to get DFA, but

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Speaker 2: we'll see about that. But yeah, the offense, man, the

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Speaker 2: offense has got to keep it going because you know,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna just give up one or two runs

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Speaker 2: every night. There's gonna be games we gotta win, you know,

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Speaker 2: six to three or seven to four or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And the offense just need you know, the offense hasn't

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Speaker 2: done it all year consistently, and this would be the

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Speaker 2: best time for them to find a consistent, powerful offense

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Speaker 2: for the last nine games and give this team the

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Speaker 2: best chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's gonna be a lot of fun to see,

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Speaker 1: and you know it just it looks like that the

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Speaker 1: Braves are having a bit more fun, you know, out

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Speaker 1: there today. This team knows what they're capable of. This

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Speaker 1: team knows that despite records the spite performance this year

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Speaker 1: in matchups against several of the better teams in the

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Speaker 1: National League, this Braves team still can only be competitive,

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Speaker 1: but also can have the advantage in some areas. You

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00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: know they want the chance, especially with how many of them,

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Speaker 1: the older guys have had career years or in your

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Speaker 1: career years this year. Hopefully each of one of each

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Speaker 1: and every one of them will step up and we'll

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Speaker 1: be able to deliver and get at least a series win,

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Speaker 1: but hopefully a sweep this weekend of course, for Stephen Tolbert.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sean Coleman. You can find Steven at

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Speaker 1: is Sean Coleman. We'll talk to you again soon here

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