WEBVTT - Jay Glazer 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.120 And Jimmy Johnson looks across their inter he goes, really 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.680 got the video? I go, I got the video, and 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:11.159 Terry Bradshaw goes, He's okay with me. Thank you, my 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:19.599 best friend, God Almighty in heaven. Hi. My name is 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.680 Jay Glazer and I'm here to fuck shit up. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.360 Welcome back, everybody, And as you undoubtedly know, this is 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.400 the podcast we like to call Off the Beat, and 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.760 I am the host. You like to call Brian Bomgartner. Now, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.159 if you watch football, or if you've ever watched football, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:50.360 my guess is you know my guest today, Jay Glazer, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.680 sports reporter extraordinaire. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.040 He is a. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:01:00.720 Powerhouse NFL Fox insider with deep knowledge of the game. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.120 He knows the players, he knows the politics. He has 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.039 his finger firmly on the pulse of all breaking news, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.920 and he's he's always got the scoop. He is the 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.480 best in the business. He also trains athletes and celebrities 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.720 all year round at his gym Unbreakable Performance Center in 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.600 West Hollywood. Jay knows everyone. I'm telling you, he knows 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:29.840 absolutely everyone in the sports and entertainment world. And I 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.480 am lucky to call him a friend. But Jay's not 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:37.759 just some big, burly guy who's all about physical fitness 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.800 and fighting in the MMA. No, he is very dedicated 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.360 to mental and emotional wellness as well. Jay has been 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.400 very open about his personal mental health struggles and on 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.960 his podcast Unbreakable, he talks with experts, celebrities, and recently 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.120 me about different types of tools and techniques to deal 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:04.200 with these issues, both big and small. Jay also runs 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.040 an amazing program. I have been a part of this, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:12.720 at least peripherally for a long time, MVP merging vets 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.960 and players, and what he does is he brings combat 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:21.680 veterans and former athletes together for workouts and for emotional 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.240 support so they can give each other the support and 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.000 camaraderie that they used to have on their respective teams 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:32.600 or troops. This is an amazing concept and it has 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.160 helped a lot of people. It's a new year, it's 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.600 playoff season, it's Tuesday. All of these are wonderful reasons 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:47.680 to hear from my friend, the one and only Jay Glazer. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:56.800 Bubble and Squeak, I love it, Bubble and Squeakano, Bubble. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.079 And Squeak, I cook at every more lift over. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.000 From the Nay. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:12.600 What's up? 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.639 Jay? Oh my dude, how are you, buddy? 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.359 I mean, I'm great now that I'm seeing you. How 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:18.160 are you doing. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.480 Living the dream? Dude trying? 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.919 How's it going? I'm playoff football? 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.320 Always excited. Man, it's been great. It's been a wild 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:26.920 year for us. We've been on the road more this 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.200 year than we normally have been. But yeah, we love 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:29.799 this man. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.360 Like the studio has been remote more. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.200 Yeah. Yeah, we did a show from Air Force Academy 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.880 that we did show from Thanksgiving in New York for 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.680 the bread and then the follow up show there and 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.880 then man, I've just been traveling all over the case. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.400 Right, It's great. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.040 I love it, man, I love it. It's the best 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.360 best reality show in the world. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.160 You know it really it is. Actually someone just told 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:53.000 me last night. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.360 Wait have we started yet? 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.440 Yeah, we're yeah, we're going. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.520 Well you gotta give me like your heads up. No, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.520 what is it? It's go over start right? Nown? 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.840 But and are we allot of I mean, I know 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.400 you're a professional and you love the word action, but no, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:07.680 we just go And. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.080 What's my language need to be for your podcast? Do 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.080 I need to be clean or no? 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:13.280 No? 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.719 No to clean? This might be wrong. Someone told me 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.719 this last night. This was not researched by me. Of 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:29.080 the top one hundred programs on network television through the year, 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.479 was it ninety three? 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.720 So I don't know what the number, but it's yeah, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.720 it's ridiculous. And even if you like man our pregame show, 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.919 the ratings for a pregram show, I just asked somebody 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.359 Fox here that I said, why were we not included 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.360 in the top like for a ratings for a pregim 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.680 show in all the top shows? Because our pregame show 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.159 is like six million, right, and that's nine o'clock in 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.640 the morning on the East Coast and Fox and l Sunday. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.240 But our ot which is after the game, gets you know, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.400 stupid number like you know sixteen million or eighteen million, 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.640 ethic are set along those lines, and we're not included 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.240 in you know, the ratings. Not that we look at 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.320 ratings or well, obviously you want to be the best 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.400 way you do, right, but yeah, but yeah, you look 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.240 at that sometimes you're like fuck, yeah, man, looking where 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.880 we are, like why are we not put in there 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.279 and included with everybody else? But I think it's a 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.520 it's you know in all sports, is we're escapism and 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.800 the crazier this world has gotten, the more people I 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.839 think need this escapism. And with football, it's the greatest 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.000 reality show in the world. You can't make this shit up, right, 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.240 It's fantastic. It's it's for me. I've always gone out 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.000 also like, look, man, I don't cover the Middle East, right, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.560 We're not that important. We're just sports and our job 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.640 is to give everybody a break from how fucked up 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.240 this world could be. And you know, the issues and 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.280 the problems that we do have so the more. And 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.919 that's why our show also in particular, we try and 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.320 make people laugh. We want people to laugh, Like we're 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.880 going to give you great information constantly, and but we're 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.279 going to try and make you laugh all so to 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.400 give you that break that we need for the world. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.520 Yeah, you know it is. 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:14.800 It has become the collective American experience, right. I mean 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.200 it used to be, you know, everybody was sitting down 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.760 and watching mash together or friends or the office or 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.760 whatever it was. But now it's that lot like what's 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.640 going to happen? I need to know now and experience 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.920 it together. We're texting where you know, facetiming each other 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.160 as a play happens. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.400 It's it's crazy. It's crazy. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.279 Now it's even more because look, fantasy football definitely changed 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.279 my life being an insider information guy right and now 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.520 betting even more so because people are waiting, especially my 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:51.560 ins and out segment end of what I'm going to say, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.920 but also, like you know, there's a lot of different 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.480 moving parts and things that we all may say during 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.000 the show where all of a sudden it changes the betting line. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.880 There was a there was a time last year, two 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.360 years ago where I came on and I said, I know, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.840 Kyler Murray's listed as questionable and there's another network that's 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.520 saying they're waiting for his pregame warm ups to see 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.800 what happens. I said, not only is he not going 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.680 to play today, but he's out the next two or 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.000 three weeks. And they pulled the game. One of the 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:21.920 casinos pulled the. 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.720 Whole game off the betting line. 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.720 The betting line based on that information somebody Fox had 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.760 told me. And I'm like, oh, ship, that's a lot 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.800 of that's it. That's that's a lot of juice. That's 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:36.880 a lot of responsibility too. I realized my life changed 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.280 with football. With Fennish football, when my dad called me 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.200 one day and he said, could you ask your friend 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.200 John Fox if Steven Davis is gonna get a lot 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.200 of carries this week? And I'm like, oh fux, So 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.880 I called Foxy up. I go, Foxy, how much is 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.920 Stephen Davis playing this week? And He's like, what the fuck. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:56.200 Do you care? 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:57.880 Like you don't care? You care about who starting who's not? 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.600 Like I said, man, my dad's called him first fantasy 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.360 football team. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.000 Because you should be. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.040 I said, no, He goes, You're really called me because 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.080 your dad's fantasy football team. I said, I am. He said, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.360 tell your dad to sit him. 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:10.600 Oh he did. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.160 Yeah, good for you. See that's where you you know. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.400 I, uh, clearly not as many relationships as you have, 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.040 but you know I have some relationships. So yeah, across 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.120 across the league. That for me is hard and fast. 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.320 I can't do it. And I'll get asked sometimes too, 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:34.560 and I'm like, dude, I'm not I'm not calling about 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:40.480 game plan or yeah, like no for for fantasy football, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:41.760 but good for you. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.079 Good for I used to have. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.760 I used to have I used to be on and 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.120 the two ones I crack up about the most I 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.640 get calls from Michael Phelps, who now like that's my 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.680 battle buddy. You know. Phelps and I talk a lot 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.880 when we're both have you know, depression anxign and we 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.600 talk about openly. But when now we know, like we're 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.360 having an episode, he'll call me, so I could be 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.880 there for him. I'll call him, or I'll just check 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:06.800 up on him sometimes, or he'll check up on me 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.199 back in the dis So we're really close. But before 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.720 we got close like this, he would be like his 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.600 you know, his little freaking drinking stoner buddies whatever, and 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.840 they would call me up. I'd be on the middle 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.120 of you know, Fox, and he'd be like, oh wait. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.199 I'd answer the phone, like in between segments, I'm like, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.720 what's up, dude, And he'd be like with his friends, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.000 like wait, wait, I got him on the phone. We 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.520 got on the phone, Hey, would you take the Ravens 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.679 and the points or in the Giants and the under 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.920 my felt so I don't fucking know, Like he'd be 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.680 talking to those buddies, and the other was Chuck Liddell 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.040 and your boy David Spade. Spade has like nine fantasy leagues, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.360 and he would at least he would call collectively with 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:49.000 like eight questions. But Chuck would call and be like, hey, 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.839 uh is LAMARJ Jackson going today? Yeah? I mean he's 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.280 he's fine, He's okay, great, And he'd hang up and 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.800 he'll call back two seconds later and go, hey, uh 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.920 ish is mark Ing Room played today? And be like yeah, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.199 Chuck Markmans plays okay? And then but you would call 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.080 it a times like hey, Chuck, can we get like 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.720 one call with all your questions instead of fucking eight? 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.120 I know we're punching your ship here. We just like 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.400 get wee call together. But it's been it's been. What 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.679 a wild ride it has been? 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:14.960 Brother? 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:15.480 Oh? 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:16.800 I love it. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.640 All right, We're gonna talk some more about that and 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.800 about this year. I want to talk about your ute 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.320 a little bit. You grew up in uh in New Jersey, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:26.719 I like to say. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.679 I like to say I grew up outside New York. 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.400 Out outside of New York, just just outside of New 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:33.280 York City? 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.760 Was football a part of your life early growing up? 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.960 So I was a wrestler and I played football for 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.800 one year in high school but realized either I had 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.600 a cutweight or ad weight. And I loved wrestling and 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.559 I love I love individual sports a lot more because 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.280 I like to know I'm the reason that I won 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.800 or lost, not because somebody else has worked ethic and 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.959 you know, unfortunately for me growing up, when I when 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.080 I was wrestling, I cut a lot of weight. I 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.600 wrestled you love this man. Freshman sophomore years, I was 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.760 one oh one, this. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.200 Is one up. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.000 And then my junior year man is where I really 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.120 kind of fucked myself up. I wrestled one o six. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:19.000 I cut from one thirty three, and I would cut 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.840 from basically one twenty one to one oh six twice 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:26.000 a week. I would only eat Wednesdays and Saturdays after 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.360 our meats, and if I didn't pin you early, I 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.120 was fucked, I guess because I just cut way too 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.960 much weight. And then end of my season early because 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.839 of some health issues, were cut too much weight, went 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.200 up to one fourteen. But that all season I'm like, oh, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.559 this is gonna be great. Kind of people didn't really 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.880 know who I was, and I wrestled a higher weight 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.920 and it was great. It was kind of just blown 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.000 through everybody, and I had really good freshmen and sophomore 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.120 seasons and went underfeet of both years in junior varsity. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.520 But then my senior year, like I came out of nowhere, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.360 was winning all these off season tournaments, and we had 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.000 a scrimmage and somebody else who was a huge name 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.880 at one fourteen, and I knew that at some point 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:06.839 he and I were going to meet up in the 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.439 state at one point, and man, we just started the 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.120 scrimmage and pop freaking pop my knee and injured my 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.560 knee and didn't really recover from it senior year. So 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.920 I loved football. Football is my escape. Like I was 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.120 a huge Giant fan growing up. And you know, my 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.720 dad and I had a season tickets Section three eleven, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.000 row eighteen, seats twenty and twenty one, so you remember that, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.920 and that was kind of like the best times I 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.280 ever had with my dad growing up. Was going to 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.720 do that, And you know, ironically, my first paid gig 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.480 was covering the Giants in ninety three. It took four 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.560 years to get a first paid gig. And by the way, 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.600 the paid gig was nine four hundred and fifty bucks 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.320 a year, like my first eleven years. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.800 Can make it in New York? Is not expend New York. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 Yeah, yeah, I know right, Like you know, I had 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.160 I had to play like bill's roulette, like which bill 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.839 would I, you know, not pay this month? The only 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.400 bill I knew. I had to play with my phone 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 bill because I had to get information right right. He 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.440 was turned off all the time, electricity's turned off, guy's 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.280 patting down the door for my rent all the time. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.679 So yeah, I know, I'm you know, my add is 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.400 taken over here. But yeah, I was a huge football fan. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.320 Too small though to do anything at football because how 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.400 much I had to keep my weight down in wrestling. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.480 You know, I do want to mention I was not 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.480 planning to talk about this, but I my nephew, so 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:26.040 my sister. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.439 They lived in Germany for a while. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.480 He really got into soccer and basketball. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:32.400 He's an athlete. 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.720 He last year he had an injury kind of kept 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.680 him out of soccer for a little bit. He started 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:45.400 wrestling as a freshman there high school in Georgia one state. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.560 He this year as a sophomore, is now wrestling for varsity. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.760 He has transformed himself. He loves it. He's now not 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.520 playing soccer. I just talked to my sister yesterday. He's 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.360 not playing soccer in the because he wants to focus 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.440 on that and he was talking or she was talking 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.040 to me about the community that he has made. What 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.840 you said is what made me think of it. It's 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.320 an individual sport, but the community, the coaches, how they 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.280 work together. He absolutely loves it and not absolutely loves it. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.640 I learned everything really from wrestling, and what I mean 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.200 by that, as I learned the grind and wrestling is 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.840 the support. People don't watch, so it's like, how do 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.400 you become great? It's all those hours you put in 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.520 when nobody's watching, right, And that's what a wrestler is, right. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.080 You're grinding, you're drilling, you're drilling. You're drilling, you're drilling. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:36.480 And the way I got to where I am in 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.040 my career is I just outworked everybody. And I just 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.560 said I'll be the last motherfucker standing every day. I 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.520 will outwork him. I'll work them, I'll work them, and 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.800 I don't mind if if people, you know, kind of 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.120 whip my ass on the way up, I will just 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.240 outgrinde him until everybody eventually says, like, holy fuck, he's 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.120 still standing there, He's still here. And that's the wrestler's 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.440 grind of just doing it over and over and over 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.320 and over and not until you get her right, just 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.800 so you don't do it wrong right, you know. And 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.840 that's that's really how I got to around my career, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.160 just out working the world and constantly beating down people's 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.160 doors and you know, willing to be rejected a million times. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.280 And I got that from wrestling. I got that grind 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:13.920 from wrestling. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.880 Wow. Well, so you went to Pace So. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:22.280 No, when people don't know it's my first college. We 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.240 were doing bad jersey things. Let's say that. 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.760 Okay, in the late eighties, okay. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.680 And I knew I needed to leave. There was bad 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.680 things ahead, right, you know, death for jail or something 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.400 like that. So I know I needed to leave and 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.000 kind of get away. So I went to Westchester University 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.560 of Pennsylvania without seeing it, only because they had a 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.240 boxing team. I didn't want to wrestle anymore because I 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.560 don't want to cut wait, but I was someone competing 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.760 in an individual sports. So I went down there, and 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.880 little did I know it was a dry campus and 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:57.280 a dry town. I got kicked out of Westchester for 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.640 quote unquote disciplinary problems after a semester and a half, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.880 and I went back and I went back to start 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:08.240 doing jersey things, and I actually signed went and met 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.320 in Checaucus, New Jersey with a certain crime family to 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.320 sign to box for them, and that was going to 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.040 be my future and I was really excited about it. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.520 And the day before my first practice was supposed to 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.480 be in Jersey City and it's like, God hit me 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:25.640 with a lighting boat, like. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:26.560 What are you doing? 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.520 You're not even a talent, You're Jewish, Like what are 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.000 you doing? And I never I never showed up practice, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.000 thank god, because I think my crew got a lot 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.000 of trouble after that. And I went to New York City. Yeah, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.080 I went to pay College downtown Manhattan, but the cheapest 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.240 place I could live, and New York City as your campus. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.560 You got to grow up in a hurry, and I 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.680 grew up fast again. I got that kind of wrestlers driwing. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.440 I went and I worked a billion things like bar 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.080 backed and bartended and bounced, and I foxed, and I 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.400 did stand up comedy in the city and I did 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.520 anything and everything you possibly good, just kind of you know, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.280 make ends meet and eventually pay rent out there as 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.600 you know, it's hard. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.840 Well, I read you studied speech communications and media studies. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.280 Was sports what you wanted to do? You wanted to 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:14.800 do sports. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.639 Well, I love sports, but I would take anything. So 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.440 my first internship was in nineteen eighty nine and Lifestyles 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.479 the Rich and Famous with Robin Leach. That's my first one. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.960 I got. Yeah, really yep. So I was like, I'll 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.920 do anything. I just knew it. I didn't do anything, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.720 and I definitely wanted to entertain in some way, but 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.280 I would have been a producer, camera mad in anything. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.280 And you're right. I went to Pace for communications, right, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.719 I really go to class. I got you know. I 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.920 was actually one of the first adults diagnosed with adult 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.280 add on the East Coast of America RELAW in nineteen 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.159 eighty nine, and they put me on freaking riddling in 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.000 eighty nine. And I used to have to go explain 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.199 to my teachers, you know, hey, I got it. Just 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.199 take a break from class for a second, take this 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.680 bill and kind of put some order on my face. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.280 And all my teachers thought I was full of shit. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.240 So I didn't really go to class. I just went 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.920 to like mid terms and finals. But I would work, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.359 i'd bartend, and I would intern. I was interning at 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.840 WFA and Radio, and I was I got a job 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.920 logging tape at CBS Sports for fifty bucks a game. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.000 Like I said, I was doing stand up comedy in 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.399 the city at like Boston Comedy Club and stand Up 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.359 New York. A lot of people don't know that, and 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.359 I was just trying to grint. So if something like 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.520 in comedy popped up, I would have done that, if 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.919 something that's sports popped up. I took like a writing 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.639 class and I ended up bullshitting my way into a 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.440 job with the New York Post but also writing covering 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:43.679 the Giants in ninety three for zero dollars, and then 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.120 the New York Post in ninety five as their NFL insided, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.879 for two hundred and fifty dollars a week, which came 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.880 out to nine grand a year. That was the nine 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.320 thousand and four to fifty in the four hundred and 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.040 fifty bucks, and I eventually got a job at New 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.200 York one TV. I got three payments of one hundred 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.240 and fifty dollars and I did a weekly show for 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.320 them for a car service because I'm like, man, chicks 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.919 will dig this, and bro I did this for I 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.119 didn't get a full time job untill ninety nine, so 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.280 I started in the business. Those internships in eighty nine, 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.800 and it wasn't until ninety nine, but I covered the 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.919 giants all those years, you know, hence the add But like, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.320 I walked in that giant locker room in ninety three 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.439 and I looked around at everybody said, I don't have 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.119 the experience of them, I don't have the education and 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.480 everybody else, how could I be different? And one I'm like, man, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.359 like I got that wrestler's ride. These cats working nine 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.520 to five. I love working out by a little by 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.359 a lot, but that prevented me from working other jobs 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.440 to like pay my bills. So if they're going to 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.280 work forty hours, I work one hundred. And I did. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.919 And the only way I got around, thank god, is 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.600 I met this goofy guy with bad teeth on our 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.439 first week and we became best friends. And that was 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.280 Michael Strahan and thank god, and he drove me back 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.680