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Speaker 2: We have finally arrived. Preview season.

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Speaker 2: My friend, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? I like to call this. A listener kindly

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Speaker 1: our Patreon shows supportosburballers dot Com, about how we do

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Speaker 1: our best to try to put ourselves in the minds

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Speaker 1: and hearts of fans during the off season. Go back

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Speaker 1: and rewatch things. This is the baggage that a UNLV

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Speaker 1: The last few years we've had an offseason, we've had

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to get into every conversation you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of it is just constantly catching

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Speaker 2: I had the same conversation at the cookout. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what big twelve media days start in

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Speaker 2: know that I just learned as I was going through

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Speaker 2: and putting this preview together. There's no minimum ranking requirement

436
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Speaker 2: for a conference champion to qualify. So an example of

437
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: that is a team sneaking into say the Big Twelve title,

438
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: and maybe they're the twenty fourth ranked team in the CFP.

439
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Speaker 2: They find a way to win that title. They might

440
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Speaker 2: be pretty low on the totem pole in terms of

441
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: final CFP rankings, but they won their conference, they are

442
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: guaranteed a spot in the playoff.

443
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Speaker 1: Not unlike if like a college basketball team is eighteen

444
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: and sixteen and they have a miracle run through Greensboro

445
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: or whatever in a conference tournament and suddenly they're in

446
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: the tournament over a number of teams that are twenty

447
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: five and seven or something exactly.

448
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: So if you win, the easiest way to get into

449
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: the playoff, to guarantee yourself a shot in the playoff

450
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: if you're a power conference team is to win your conference.

451
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Speaker 2: If you're in the G five, in all likelihood there

452
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: will be one spot available for you. I'll get into

453
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Speaker 2: that momentarily, but you gotta win your conference. I think

454
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Speaker 2: it suffice to say, gotta win your conference to get in,

455
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Speaker 2: especially as the SEC and the Big Ten assert more

456
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: of their will moving forward with this expansion in which

457
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Speaker 2: teams get in versus which don't. The final thing that

458
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Speaker 2: I will add here because I know there's been some

459
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Speaker 2: confusion about this, There will inevitably be a lot of

460
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Speaker 2: confusion about this, maybe as soon as this year. Because

461
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame should be pretty good. Notre Dame can never

462
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Speaker 2: receive a first round by.

463
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Speaker 1: Take that Notre Dame.

464
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Speaker 2: Okay, Notre Dame will never receive a first round by

465
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Speaker 2: because they're not in a conference there or they cannot

466
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Speaker 2: win a conference. Regardless of their final ranking. They could

467
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Speaker 2: finish twelve to oh number one team in the country,

468
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: the highest Notre Dame can ever be seated in this

469
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: tournament is fifth. Now, that does not necessarily mean it

470
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: puts Notre Dame at a disadvantage, and this is something

471
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Speaker 2: that we have talked about in the offseason. Notre Dame,

472
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Speaker 2: you can make a case is in a better position

473
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Speaker 2: to get that five seed if they're again one of

474
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Speaker 2: the top four teams in the country to get the

475
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Speaker 2: five seed, to get a first round playoff game at

476
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Speaker 2: home against the number twelve team in the country, presumably

477
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: the G five conference champion. Right that game seems like

478
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Speaker 2: it would be easier than if they played and say,

479
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten, and they had to play Ohio State

480
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: or Oregon or whoever for a conference championship. So you

481
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: can make the case that they get an easier thirteenth

482
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Speaker 2: game by virtue of the new rules here. Even though

483
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Speaker 2: on the surface it looks like they are being put

484
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: behind the eight ball, it really is not the case here.

485
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: So Notre Dame is included in this. Obviously, they're not

486
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: going to be lumped in with like G five teams

487
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 2: that are gonna have to scrape and claw to win

488
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: their conference championship to get in. Notre Dame. Well, we'll

489
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: get into conference and team previews here in a few

490
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: short days and weeks.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could talk.

492
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Speaker 2: More about Notre Dame. Notre Dame's got a very strong

493
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Speaker 2: case to be part of this and get a home

494
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: game in your one of the expanded playoffs. Are we

495
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: clear on all of that, because there's much more here

496
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Speaker 2: that we need to discuss.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if anybody feels like Notre Dame is getting

498
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Speaker 1: a raw deal or Notre Dame is getting a sweetheart

499
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Speaker 1: deal that they don't have to join a conference, they

500
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Speaker 1: don't have to win a conference championship to make the playoff,

501
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: it's Notre Dame playing in a big game in December

502
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Speaker 1: of January. You know how this is going to go

503
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: exactly like you know, so like just everybody you know

504
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: take a beat. Yeah, I mean it effectively. I'll say

505
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: it largely ends the huge emotions surrounding somebody being left

506
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Speaker 1: out because because the opportunities to get in seem to

507
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: be more varied and vast, right that, Like, you can

508
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: drop a game and still be in pretty good shape

509
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: if you're in a power conference. Correct, you can drop

510
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: a couple games and largely still be in pretty good shape,

511
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Speaker 1: depending on what happens with a conference championship. Obviously, there

512
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: are factors. I think the big thing if it's Notre

513
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Dame at the five seed, if it's whoever at the

514
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: five seed, the big thing where there is going to

515
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: be emotion to me is if we have a situation

516
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: where this is just an example, Let's say Jalen Milroe

517
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: misses a couple games, he rolls his ankle, and Alabama

518
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: doesn't look the same. They finished nine to three and

519
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: they're like ranked thirteen or fourteen. They're just not the

520
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: same team with I guess Ty Simpson in this example.

521
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: But when Jalen Morou is healthy, they're beating everybody by

522
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: twenty eight and so they're ranked like thirteen or fourteen,

523
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, they're clearly way better. And the

524
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: situation is such where like everybody knows they're way better

525
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: than their record because of a quarterback injury. That's when

526
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: you'll start getting into some of the emotion of like

527
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: should they or shouldn't they or they were left out

528
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: unjustly but short of that, and that's football, right. Injuries

529
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: are part of football, and there are situations where a

530
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: team looks way different and way better, you know, after

531
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: September and clearly one of the twelve best teams in

532
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: the country, even though the record doesn't necessarily indicate it.

533
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: That said, I don't think those cases are going to

534
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: be crazy happen crazy often, but I still think we're

535
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Speaker 1: going to see some emotional situations in that twelve thirteen,

536
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: fourteen range, but not with the not to the same

537
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: magnitude that we've seen, not often with the best four teams,

538
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: but that we've certainly seen, you know, as we've neared

539
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Speaker 1: the end of seasons.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a Florida State situation from last year

541
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: no longer happens, so rare, but that's kind of rare anyway.

542
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of rare.

543
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: But situations like that which are always heartbreaking, doesn't matter

544
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: who you root for them. Let's all right for the rival, right.

545
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: We try to play this thing as neutral as we can.

546
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: The Florida State last year with Jordan Travis was heartbreaking

547
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: and everybody was in an impossible situation. And it's most

548
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: deserving versus best team. And we have these conversations year

549
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: and in y're out, and I just think that shifts

550
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: now to the to the lower side of the spectrum,

551
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: right with respect to who's ranked and who isn't and

552
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: the bubble team economy is something that I think we'll

553
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: see something of a boom here the deeper we get

554
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: into the season. I hope it keeps interests around a

555
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: little bit longer as teams wait to find out if

556
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: they're going to have a shot at the playoff or not.

557
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: I think it will make things certainly more discussion worthy

558
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: down the stretch. We're not just talking about four teams now,

559
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: we're talking about twelve. Here is where it gets a

560
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: little bit interesting though. All Right, so we talked about

561
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: the four highest ranked conference champions getting a buye. The

562
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 2: other eight teams are going to play first round games

563
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: quote at the site of the higher seeded school or

564
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: at a different site determined by the higher seating school

565
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: end quote. So it doesn't necessarily mean that it has

566
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: to be played on campus. They're giving some of these

567
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: schools a bit of an out because we know, especially

568
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: at some places in like the Upper Midwest, et cetera,

569
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: et cetera, they may not have the ability to play

570
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: a game.

571
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. This so logistic stuff, Yeah.

572
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: Logistical things. I think they're trying to work those out

573
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: as best they can. I know, schools like Penn State

574
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: and Wisconsin and others, especially in the Big Ten, have

575
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: made investment to winterize stadiums and whatnot. But there there's

576
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: at least language in here that if you can't play

577
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: at the stadium, you can you still get the host

578
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: of the game, but you get to pick where you

579
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: host it, which is interesting. One of those eight spots

580
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: is reserved for the highest ranked Group of five champion.

581
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: You got to win your conference. You got to be

582
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Speaker 2: the highest ranked group of five conference champion. This makes

583
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: for a very interesting conversation, Dan, Yeah, okay.

584
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Speaker 1: Well yeah that that also then that's where emotion can

585
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: come from come Thanksgiving.

586
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: And I think that is one of the bright spots

587
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: that has been overlooked as we have talked about this

588
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: new setup. And you know, we just had a conversation about, well,

589
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: how do group of five? How do fans of group

590
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: of five schools feel about this new setup? Do they

591
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: feel like they're just being thrown a bone and nobody

592
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: seriously wants them to be part of it. Do they

593
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: feel like they are actually being included in this sport

594
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: moving forward? Like there are two trains of thought there

595
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: that are interesting to unpacked. But I do think that

596
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: this will be very very very highly contested. Sure, as

597
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: we get into the latter part of November, which G

598
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: five team is for you, right, there is a case

599
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: to be made that Liberty could go thirteen to zero

600
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: in their conference. Liberty, obviously playing the Fiesta Bowl last

601
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: year against Oregon got murdered, right right, Does being your

602
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: conference champion, being undefeated necessarily mean that you are going

603
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: to get a spot in this playoff? Stands to reason

604
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: that it's going to be a very very interesting conversation.

605
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Not all of these conferences are created equal. They don't

606
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: play defense in the Sun Belt the way they might

607
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: play it and say the American or the Mountain West.

608
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: So the committee is going to have some pointed conversations

609
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: I would expect over who gets in and who doesn't.

610
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: That I think is where we're going to see the

611
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: most drama. Not so much with who's number twelve among

612
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: the Power Conference teams, but who is number one among

613
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: the G five conference champions. That will be I think

614
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: really really fascinating to try and follow.

615
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: That said, which I think is all correct if you're

616
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: super into conference pr resented and mouthpieces of de facto mouthpieces,

617
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: even though they are not technically paid to be such

618
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: to sort of extol the virtues of the SEC, to

619
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: extol the virtues of the Big ten, because when you

620
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: get into it, it's going to be a lot of

621
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Speaker 1: the at large teams coming from the power all of

622
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Speaker 1: the at large teams coming from the the power conferences.

623
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Speaker 1: And then from a more granular level, it's is you're

624
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: going to be comparing a ten and two SEC team

625
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: against a ten and two ACC team against ten and

626
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: two Big twelve team whatever, And we are going to

627
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: get into conference strength or perceived conference strength and schedules

628
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and like that is going to be fill That is

629
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: going to be filling your November, right, that that sort

630
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: of pr blitz of like how do you leave a

631
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: ten in two SEC team? How do you leave a

632
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: ten into big ten team? Off? How do you leave

633
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: the SEC? It's a big time. That is going to

634
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: be the conversation. It's going to be so bad. Yeah.

635
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: It also paves the way for some strategy moving forward. Yeah,

636
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: scheduling strategy sure, not just scheduling, but almost looking at

637
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: conference membership as a whole on the G five level.

638
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: And if you are a school, I'll use liberty as

639
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: like liberty is going to go through Conference USA. Conference

640
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: USA is not going to offer much resistance.

641
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: They're just not hel Arkansas didn't offer much resistance to

642
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: Liberty a couple of years ago. Noah, No, But like,

643
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: could we find ourselves in a situation down the road

644
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: where the committee looks at a conference champion they say

645
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: that's a weak conference.

646
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: And as a result, then those in charge of the

647
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: conference have to try and beef it up. They have

648
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: to try and add better teams to create a better

649
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: conference and hopefully put whoever their conference champion is in

650
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: a better position to actually make this next round.

651
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I just think it.

652
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: There's a lot here with this G five spot that

653
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: is going to work itself out in real time and

654
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: make for some great takes and truly awful takes. And

655
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: I am signed up for both of them. I think

656
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: it'll be fascinating. I'm just glad that they're included. I

657
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: am glad that a G five team is going to

658
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: be part of this. The other thing that I should add,

659
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: as we've started to add rounds and add teams to

660
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: this playoff, it's now going to be possible for a

661
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: team to play seventeen games in a season, yes, which

662
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: is crazy. Yeah, if a team loses its conference championship

663
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: game and then has to play four playoff games, could

664
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: get out a point get to a situation where you've

665
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: got seventeen games in a season for somebody, which would

666
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: be unprecedented. So the possibility exists for that. Yeah, don't

667
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: be surprised if you look at a record and the

668
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: winner of this coming season is sixteen games.

669
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah crazy. I mean, we're I think we're going to

670
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: get to the point where we're seeing a lot in

671
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: the number of teams playing more games, where we will

672
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: again have a conversation about the usefulness of a conference

673
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: championship game beyond ad revenue. And I know TV is

674
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: in charge of the sport, so TV is the ones

675
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: that's going to make this decision, but at least that

676
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: conversation will continue or start up anew. We're just like,

677
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: why don't we just put the best twelve or fourteen

678
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: team teams in and include a spot for the best

679
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: G five the highest ranked G five champion or whatever.

680
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: But otherwise and that's you know, definitely from like the

681
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: SEC and Big Tens prerogative, like the most number of

682
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: their teams in as the two biggest conferences with the

683
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: most teams who get the most attention. That certainly seems

684
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: like a big deal for them. But yeah, that's that's

685
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: going to be another thing as we get away from

686
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: divisions and we have tie breakers, and it's just you know,

687
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: you give everybody a bye week between the end of

688
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: the regular season and the start of both bowl season

689
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: and playoff season. And it's also early signing day. It's

690
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: also potentially transfer portal time. Like we're going to have

691
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: that conversation eventually.

692
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: The other interesting tidbit about this playoff Yeah, when are

693
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: the games? When are they playing these games?

694
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

695
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: Basically, basically it starts when you're used to Bowl season starting,

696
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 2: and then there is a new round every ten days.

697
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: Okay, book your vacations accordingly, Book.

698
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: Your vacations accordingly.

699
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: All right.

700
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: So the first round of games this year start up

701
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: on Friday, December of the twentieth. There's one game that

702
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: Friday night. Then the next day, December the twenty second,

703
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: there are three on that Saturday. Interesting point here, there

704
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: are only three games throughout this entire tournament being played

705
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: on a weekend. They are doing this, presumably to try

706
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: and hopscotch around the NFL schedule. The NFL ain't budget,

707
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: they have no reason to which means that outside of

708
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: that first round, when you've got those three games on

709
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: that Saturday, December the twenty first, you've got games. One

710
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: game that's being played on New Year's Eve. You've got

711
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: three games that are being played on New Year's Day,

712
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and a Wednesday. This year, playing games on

713
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: New Year's Day's fine. We're used to that as college

714
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: football fans. The semi finals are played on a Thursday

715
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: and a Friday. In the National Championship is played on

716
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: a Monday. So truly they're playing games during the week.

717
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: They're going to use the holiday to their advantage wherever

718
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: they can. It'll be interesting to see what happens to

719
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: this moving forward to your point of attendance. I'm curious

720
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: to see what TV viewership looks like, because we know

721
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: that is so much of what's been driving this.

722
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: Sure.

723
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: The other thing that I would add, and this is

724
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: one of the bones that I have to pick with

725
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: this whole setup. You know, and maybe the later part

726
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: of this conversation, we could talk about some of the

727
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: new broadcasting affiliations. But you might have read about ESPN

728
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: sub licensing some of their games to TNT saw that, Okay,

729
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: the way this is going to work, and it's going

730
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: to start up this year. TNT is going to host

731
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: two of those games on Saturday. I have made the

732
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: case now for two years that interest in the first

733
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: round of this this new playoff will be at a

734
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: fever pitch just because they're going to be games on campus.

735
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: I've never seen that before. So emotion, passion, the pageantry

736
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: of playing these games on campus for the first time ever,

737
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be off the charts. If we are

738
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: truly viewing this through the lens of they're trying to

739
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: make this a TV show. They're trying to make this

740
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: the best fan of experience possible to trying to get

741
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: everyone all ginned up for this new playoff. Why is

742
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: ESPN giving the games two of these games to a

743
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: network that basically does not carry college football most of

744
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: the year. Different announcers, It'll feel different, the ambiance, the vibe,

745
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: everything about it will be different for presumably two of

746
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: the biggest games on the calendar. That to me seems

747
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: like an enormous misstep. Maybe they're trying to make some

748
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: of their money back.

749
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is I think they paid

750
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: a premium to get the College of Well playoff and

751
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: not have it go to Fox, and they're trying to

752
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: get some money.

753
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: Like I get that they're trying to re some of

754
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: the investment. I know they paid a pretty penny ESPN

755
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: did to get these playoffs, but it seems like a

756
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: huge miss.

757
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Which are the two games? Which of the two games?

758
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: Do we know it's two of the games on Saturday?

759
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so do we think Do we think it's because

760
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: those are the games they're going to get potentially crushed

761
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: by NFL games.

762
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and maybe that's what they're thinking

763
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: is too Yeah, but it seems like an enormous bummer

764
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: to me that two of what will easily be the

765
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: most anticipated games this year. Truly, I'm not exaggerating. In

766
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: the history of college football, ESPN, who sees itself as

767
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: like the mothership of all things sports, not the least

768
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: of which is college football, they're punting those two games

769
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: over to TNT, different announcers, different vibes. It's gonna feel

770
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: different for the whole.

771
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: We get Kevin Harland back and college football.

772
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: I think we might get Kevin Harlan back which I'm pro.

773
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we like Kevin Harland. I watched an old

774
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: clip he called like the nineteen ninety three Copper Bowl.

775
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love Kevin Harlan. That'd be terrific, right,

776
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: And certainly there are plenty of good announcers. I'm not like,

777
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, crapping on announcers here, But it just seems

778
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: odd to me that if ESPN and Fox are driving

779
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: this whole thing, we're going to get to this brand

780
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: new expanded playoff that everybody's excited about. Know, the games

781
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: are on TNT great, right, seems odd? Right, seems odd

782
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: to me? Maybe do you? I don't know the way

783
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: they're working these rounds. Again, the first four games are

784
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: going to.

785
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Be Remember TNT has money to spend, right, they're losing

786
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: the NBA losing on something they spent it on so far,

787
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: sub licensing the college fotball playoff, and I saw that

788
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: they're getting in the French Open there it's like a

789
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: TNT and like max situation. So they're getting the I'm

790
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: sure they'll be aggressive with sports rights moving forward even more.

791
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, first four games on campus, the quarterfinals, which is

792
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: the next round it's going to be played at the

793
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: site of the Peach, Rose, and Sugar bowls. Okay, and

794
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: there's another one here that I didn't write down.

795
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: They maintained January first, after afternoon evening for the Rose, right.

796
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: Right, right right, They kept that structure in place. Those games,

797
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: those three games of Peatros and Sugar are going to

798
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: be played on New Year's Day, and the two semi

799
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: final games will be at the Orange and Cotton Bowl.

800
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Then the CFP National Championshi they're going to play that

801
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: one Monday, the twentieth of January. Is the season creeps

802
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: out a little bit more, playing that one at Mercedes

803
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: Benz Stadium in Atlanta, so you're down in Hotlanta. That's

804
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: where your championship will be.

805
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: We need like a laminated card that people can put

806
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: in their wallets or just in front of their toilets

807
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: to just always remind themselves. That's what we need to continue.

808
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: We need the magnet that I was joking with, I know,

809
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: we do need a magnet. We need a refrigerator magnet

810
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: for new conference affiliation, for the playoff schedule for some

811
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 2: of these new rules.

812
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: So we'll just set up we'll set up an app

813
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: and the only thing the app does is give you

814
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: like a forty eight hour push alert that there is

815
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: yet another college football playoff game about to happen that

816
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you can attend, watch, wager on, whatever your choice. Yeah.

817
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: The other thing that's changing this year, speak of different vibes,

818
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: is we have some new broadcasting affiliations this year.

819
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: That's true, speaking of TNT.

820
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so TNT is going to get two of

821
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: those first round college football playoff games. Are also going

822
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: to have fourteen Mountain West games on their air this year. Yeah,

823
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: ESPN gets the SEC. No more CBS, so.

824
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: They'll it'll be ABC. It's eight ESPN on ABC airing

825
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: that three p thirty game Eastern. Right.

826
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the combination of ESPN and ABC is still

827
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: going to have the majority of the big games. You

828
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: will have ACC they' secy'll have some Big twelve in

829
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: addition to the American and the MAC Conference, USA and

830
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: the Sun Belt. All right, they still have the biggest

831
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: package of games. So if you're used to watching games

832
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: in ESPN and ABC, that's not going anywhere. Fox obviously,

833
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: in bed with the Big ten, going to have whatever

834
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: Big twelve games are left. They will also have in

835
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: West games. Yeah, CBS is the one that is changing

836
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: the most in my view, right, CBS is going to

837
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: have more Big ten games this year. They're going to

838
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: have Mountain West games this year. They're still going to

839
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: continue to cover that Army Versus Navy game, but if

840
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: you're used to watching the SEC on CBS, you're in

841
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: for rout awakening. That's no longer going to be the case.

842
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: So presumably Brad Nessler Gary Danielson are going to be

843
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: working some Big ten games this coming season. It's it's

844
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: it's a different vibe. Look, We've been used to this

845
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: for a good long time. Now that is changing. NBC

846
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: going to continue broadcasting Big ten games. Are also going

847
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: to have Notre Dame as well. The Notre Dame booth

848
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: is changing. We can talk about that a little bit more.

849
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: We get to Notre Dame. And the only other network

850
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: that I will mention here is is.

851
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: It another collins Worth kid. There are no more coins.

852
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Worth, There are no more collins Worths in the booth.

853
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: Collins Worth's collins Worth I whatever whatever the plural is

854
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: there and this still getting I believe thirteen ACC games

855
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: this year in addition to the PAC twelve. So if

856
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: you want to watch Oregon State and Wazoo. Yes, the

857
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: CW is for you. Start looking up your your local listings.

858
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: If you're traditional cable or over the air or you

859
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: know whatever your streaming service of choices, be on the

860
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: lookout for the CW or TNT. And by the way,

861
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: there's also Peacock is doing NBC affiliated Big Ten games. Yeah.

862
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: I try not to menshe like, we'll just lump Peacock

863
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: in with NBC, but that was a bit of a

864
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: sticking point for folks last year. I mean, it's been

865
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: a trend, not just with college football. We've seen it

866
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: with all sorts of pro sports now where they put

867
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: something streaming exclusive, it sucks. I hate it. It's purely

868
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: a money grab. There will inevitably be games like that

869
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: this year that are only on Peacock. As we get

870
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: through previewing schedules and talking through individual weeks and whatnot,

871
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: we can, you know, bring that up when it comes

872
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: to pass.

873
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: But you don't watch your data harvested and get advertisements specifically.

874
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: Like, hey, we saw you ordered chocolate covered almends.

875
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,479
Speaker 1: Tie, here's a bunch of chocolate covered Almend commercials during

876
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: your Peacock game.

877
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Tie. Some of the Peacock commercials I've been seeing as

878
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: of late are yeah, off the wall, definitely not tailored

879
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: for me.

880
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, good.

881
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know what they're doing with my data,

882
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: but maybe they should do more with it.

883
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Should also note that because of the streaming stuff, because

884
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: of you know, how many games are happening, and the

885
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: windows that we have both in terms of late night

886
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: Saturday windows for both you know, ACC, Big twelve, Big

887
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: ten with West Coast teams, we're also seeing more games

888
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: being pushed to Friday. I think Oregon has a couple

889
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: of Friday games. I saw Clemson decided to tell the

890
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: ACC now, we're good. When they were told they're gonna

891
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: play on Friday, they sent them like an official letter,

892
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: like we have determined we're not going to do this.

893
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know you could say, okay, so that's

894
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: going well in the ACC. So yeah, there's going to

895
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: be more streaming, more varied schedules, and that's just the

896
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: reality in which we live.

897
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: The final bit, I think of reintroduction to the verballer

898
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: hood for the twenty twenty four college football season. Coaching

899
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: and player movement. Yes, outside of the big structural stuff

900
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: that's changing, like the playoffs and who's covering them and

901
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: who's in which conference. The thing that most people are

902
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: going to start talking about before long new coaches, Yeah, transfers,

903
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: actual on field stuff, which is mostly what we care

904
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: about here on the show. This was certainly an eventful

905
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: offseason in that regard, the biggest of which was Nick

906
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Saban retiring. We had joke for honestly how many years,

907
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: five six, seven years about we need to pre record

908
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: our reaction to Nick Saban retiring. We knew it was

909
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: going to happen at some point to know when snuck

910
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: up on us. So Nick Saban's out, Caitlin de Borr

911
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: from Washington is in. Jed Fish takes over at Washington,

912
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Brent Brennan takes over at Arizona. Ken Neiamatalolo not running

913
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: the option, takes over at San Jose State. So you

914
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: follow that chain the whole way down from Saban to

915
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: ken Niamatalolo, Texas A and m got rid of Jimbo

916
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: bringing in Mike Elko. Duke Is replacing Elco with Manny

917
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: Diaz left Penn State. Penn State backfilled the defensive coordinator

918
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: position with Tom Allen, who left Indiana, Indiana got Kurt

919
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: Signetti from James Madison. Everybody can follow these things, not

920
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: doing all the coaches, just doing some of the primary

921
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: ones that I know people care about. Both Michigan schools,

922
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Jim Harball obviously the Mel Tucker thing. We knew about

923
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: that for a while. Two new coaches in the state

924
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: of Michigan, Sharon Moore taking over full time. I'm now

925
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: for Harballs he leaves to go back to the NFL,

926
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Smith, the aforementioned Jonathan Smith, the savior of

927
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Oregon State football, has decided let's go to East Lansing.

928
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: And then to close things out, we had Jeff Leby

929
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: taking over at Mississippi State for Zach Barnett, Fran Brown,

930
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: our boy Fran Brown, who we love, yeah like a brother,

931
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: taking over for Dino Babers at Syracuse, sure, and Deshaun

932
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Foster taking over at UCLA after Chip Kelly decided I'd

933
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: rather just be an offensive coordinator for Ohio State.

934
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not the only one, not the only head

935
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: coach that decided on a new coordinator path for whatever reason.

936
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, I think, just wants to be coach football.

937
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley at Boston College becomes the new defensive coordinator

938
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers in the NFL. By the way,

939
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: you said you didn't want to follow the chain completely.

940
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: You stopped the chain immediately when a Patriot League head

941
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: coach got to take over James Madison, Bob Chesney, holy Cross,

942
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: that's right. And you didn't mention I think Richmond disjoining. Yes,

943
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: the so we have to come up with a whole

944
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: new angle. We got to cover Richmond.

945
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: Spider Spiders, you into spiders.

946
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yes, there are new coaches everywhere, and obviously

947
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: the timing of especially as the calendar gets extended. So

948
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Nick Saban announces he's leaving Alabama shortly after Alabama's lost

949
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: in the playoff, which then Washington's head coach Calin de

950
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: Boorr announces he's leaving shortly after their appearance in the

951
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: National Championship Game. And Jed, you know, it's just it's

952
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: now so far removed from when the portal opens from

953
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: early signing day that it throws a lot into the

954
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: air in terms of already an environment of a ton

955
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: of player movement and coaching movement. They all need to

956
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: hire new coordinators, they're moving families, they're you know, recruiting

957
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: guys from their old roster. A prime example of all

958
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: of this is the guys who left Alabama, and that's

959
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: a number of talented dudes who could go anywhere they wanted.

960
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: For a number of these guys, not the least of

961
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: which was Julian Sane, who was five star quarterback asides

962
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: committed to Nick Saban and Alabama forever from southern California.

963
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: He's now at Ohio State, which I guess he views

964
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: as a more stable landing spot. And you know, didn't

965
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: go through Spring or anything to see Caitlin de Boor's

966
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: offense if there were a fit with him. So you know,

967
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: that's just going to be that new reality that you

968
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: really don't know what you have until you know your

969
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: team kicks off to start the year.

970
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: The other three teams that I will call out quickly,

971
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: and again, I'm not going to do all of these coaches.

972
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: I'd be here all day.

973
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

974
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: Willie Fritz taking over for Dana Holgerson at Houston. Yeah,

975
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: so Willy Fritz now getting a bite at the Big

976
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: twelve Apple. John Sumrall, who I think we all love.

977
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really good.

978
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: Younger guy taking over at two lane for Willy Fritz

979
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: and Jared Parker. The beloved Jared Parker, former coordinator, somehow

980
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: got the Troy job take over for John surmol was

981
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: a former teammate of John Sumrrals I believe in they

982
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: were both at Kentucky. Okay, so there's something familiarity which

983
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: on summer all. But if you're familiar at all with

984
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: Jared Parker and his work with the Notre Dame offense,

985
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: maybe some reasons to be skeptical about the Troy Trojans

986
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: this coming year, which.

987
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: By the way, Notre Dame. That's not a Notre Dame show,

988
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: not intentionally anyway. I think they finished like a top

989
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: twenty national offense last year. Like this wasn't a catastrophe.

990
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: It was a cataster from.

991
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: A number of From a number standpoint, yes.

992
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: In bigger games, I understand your frustration.

993
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: You watched the games feeling, Yes, they were very predictable. Yeah,

994
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: and a lot of those numbers came against teams that

995
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: they should have come against, but not not in the

996
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: biggest spots. They were, I agree, way too predictable against

997
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: teams like Ohio State, against teams like Clemson. Even again

998
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: like Ohio State, which state you know could have won.

999
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: So I'd like to see some more varied play calling,

1000
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: which hopefully we'll get this year with Mike Denbrock. But

1001
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: there's a time and place to have that conversation.

1002
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: You want to hear some new teams that are going

1003
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: to have new starting quarterbacks via the portal. It's not

1004
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: a dusting tie. Oregon, Michigan State, My Miami, Kentucky, Duke,

1005
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Notre Dame, Florida State, probably Boise State, Washington, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Vanderbilt,

1006
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: possibly usc Like it's big, big places. We need the

1007
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: flash cards, man, we need the flash We need the

1008
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: ani Maniac song, We need flash cards. We need it all,

1009
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: you know. Dylan Gabriel goes from Oklahoma to Oregon. I

1010
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Julian saying Aiden Chiles Oregon State to Michigan State.

1011
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: Brock vandergriff a backup at Georgia is now the presumed

1012
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: starter at Kentucky. Like it is all over the place

1013
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: that there are I think a limited number of obvious

1014
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: game changers. Cam Ward, Washington State, Miami certainly a big one,

1015
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: and that was an extended decision. It seems that the

1016
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: place you can have the biggest jump in pop still

1017
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: unless you're Clemson, is wide receiver. That the wide receiver

1018
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: market in terms of higher level talent, whether it's Juice

1019
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Wells at Ole, Miss Colby Young going from Miami to Georgia,

1020
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Evans Stewart, Texas A and m to Oregon, you name it.

1021
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: That you can give yourself instant pop offensively with the

1022
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: number of receivers in the portal who are either unproven

1023
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: but you know, thought of highly coming out of high

1024
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: school or flashed as a freshman but have been injured.

1025
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: That that is a place. You know, there's a lot

1026
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: of dbs in the portal, but in terms of interesting pop,

1027
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: receiver seems to be the place right now with the

1028
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: most upside.

1029
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get a lot at receiver. Quarterback I

1030
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: think is still a coin flip. Yeah, you can also

1031
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: get a lot upfront on defense. You know, we have

1032
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: seen some ed rusher. I mean, look at what Jared

1033
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Vers did when he came down from Albany to Florida

1034
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: State ended up a first round draft pick. So you

1035
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: mentioned some of the quarterbacks. Look, I'm not going to

1036
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 2: list them off. You didn't mention Riley Leonard, who comes

1037
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: over to Notre Dame from.

1038
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: I said, Notre Dame, what happened?

1039
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: He's a big one. You didn't mention Will Howard at all, No,

1040
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: I said Ohio State.

1041
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: I said he was on.

1042
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: My Julian's saying, don't overlook my boy.

1043
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State would have a new starter. Yeah.

1044
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: So Ohio State was very active in the portal. They

1045
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: didn't take a ton of transfers, but they took enough

1046
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: high level talent to I think be interesting. Quinn Shawn

1047
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: Judkins comes over to Ohio State at the running back

1048
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 2: position from Old Miss. There were a bunch of bigger

1049
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 2: name running backs that were also on the move. Damian

1050
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: Martinez is really good. Came to Miami from Oregon State.

1051
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: He is also fleeing the Oregon State situation. Trevor etn

1052
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: leaves Florida to go to Georgia. Dylan Edwards leaves Colorado

1053
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: or remember him at Colorado last year? He was a

1054
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: multiple lightning Yeah, he's going back home to Kansas State.

1055
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: Even a guy like a Jordan Waters at Duke who

1056
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: was really productive going now to NC State, I think

1057
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: gives them a little bit more pop on offense. N

1058
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: C State, by the way, also got Noah Rodgers from

1059
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: Ohio State, who figures a step in right away and

1060
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: give them some pop at the receiver position. Who else

1061
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: do we need? Dion Burks is another big name produced.

1062
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Julian Fleming Ohio State to penns State is a big deal.

1063
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: Julian Fleming.

1064
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1065
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: So there are guys kind of dotted throughout offenses around

1066
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: the country. There are too many defensive players to list,

1067
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: but the biggest of which, of course is Walter Nolan,

1068
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: who left Texas A and M to go to Old Miss.

1069
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: I would say Caleb Downs and Walter Nolan were probably

1070
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: would be Yeah, from Alabama to Ohio State just the

1071
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: clear best young defensive player, you know, freshman defensive player

1072
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: in the country to me making that move to Ohio State,

1073
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: that like essentially like when you look at young star

1074
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: power from last season, like he probably I'm I'm sure

1075
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm missing out on some players, but he is in

1076
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: that group of weirds just like man if he hit

1077
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: the open market, what does that look like? Yeah, and

1078
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: now we know it's Ohio State. Yeah.

1079
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 2: And uh, another Colorado guy leaving a well known Colorado player,

1080
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: Cormani McClain. It was a big deal when he signed

1081
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Speaker 2: with Dion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't play, didn't play appreciable time, Yeah, didn't play that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dion sung some arrows at him, indicating that

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Speaker 2: he was mature enough to be out there on the field.

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Speaker 2: Cormani McLain says, I'm going to Florida, so he is

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Speaker 2: now leaving.

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Speaker 1: But like a weird sort of portal situation where I

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Speaker 1: think he was looking at UCF, no shade at UCF,

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Speaker 1: who I like a lot, But it wasn't like the

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Speaker 1: attention he was getting as a portal player wasn't the

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Speaker 1: same as the attention he was getting as a high

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Speaker 1: school senior.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Dan, I think that is as close to a

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Speaker 2: crash course as we're going to get here to start

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Speaker 2: things off here in previous season. For the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four college football season, there is a lot yet to come.

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Speaker 2: As we said at the top. Up next is a

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00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: two part group of five preview. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: through all those teams as best we can. Then we're

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Speaker 2: going to have three part previews coming for each of

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00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: the Power conferences, starting with the ACC next week. We

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Speaker 2: will flip over to three episodes a week, So make

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Speaker 2: come with our games, with all the in season festivities

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Speaker 2: that you know are coming down the pike. We will

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00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: get to that here in due course, but still a

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Speaker 2: little early, as it's only middle to early July.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's me a wild year. I have no idea

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Speaker 1: what to expect. It's gonna be a wild year. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure both of us hope to be in Atlanta for

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Speaker 1: the National Championship game because Notre Dame is there, because

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Speaker 1: Oregon's there, because would you believe it, Notre Dame is

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Speaker 1: taking on Oregon for the twenty twenty four National Championship.

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Speaker 2: That will be sOliver Bowl in the inaugural championship of

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Speaker 2: the twelve teamer would be that would be something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could honestly, we could get two teams

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Speaker 1: playing three times this year, right, we could get Oregon

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. We could get Texas LA, you know, any

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Speaker 1: sort of combination in the sec of the power teams

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Speaker 1: Georgia Texas playing a number of times. And that's just

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Speaker 1: the new reality in which we live. But yeah, it

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Speaker 1: ends in Atlanta. It was what Oregon Ohio State in

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Speaker 1: the inaugural college four team College Ball Playoff twenty fourteen season.

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Speaker 1: So we'll be fascinating. I cannot recommend enough. Two things.

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Speaker 1: Go and just look up who's on your team. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't been paying attention this year, if you're just

1133
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: sort of getting back into the swing of the sport,

1134
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: because it's probably looking a lot different, look at your

1135
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff, look at your team, look at your schedule,

1136
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Speaker 1: all that, and subscribe to the Solidverbal for absolutely three

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Speaker 1: episodes a week, starting very soon.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So, look, as we said a couple

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Speaker 2: times now, previews begin in earnest with our next episode.

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Speaker 2: This was your welcome back episode. We hope you enjoyed it.

1141
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: We're going to do our part to talk through these conferences,

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Speaker 2: what's new in these conferences, the storylines that you need

1143
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: to follow, and of course the teams that we like

1144
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: and don't like, and why you should or shouldn't like

1145
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: them as well. We will do our part here to

1146
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Speaker 2: get you prepped and ready to go. But it's here, man,

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Speaker 2: we made it.

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Speaker 1: It's here. I need bigger TVs. That's what I've determined.

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: I keep seeing how cheap TVs are. Gotta go seventy five.

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01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: That's all Prime Days next week? Man, is that true? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hilda Brand, Welcome back to twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four college football season.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in a few days. Stay solid peace. Also,

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Speaker 1: Northwestern is playing on a lacrosse field. That's a new

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Speaker 1: thing that we should have mentioned. Northwestern is playing on

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Speaker 1: a lacrosse field with temporary bleachers eleven and a half

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Speaker 1: feet from a very windy cold.

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Speaker 2: We should have included that. We should have we should

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Speaker 2: have included that