WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: New Challenge On Defense 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:19.919 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.680 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World head hours at 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:32.560 the Star in Frisco. There's got picasady backday and now 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:37.640 your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips and 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:44.199 Kyle Yeoman's. It is a beautiful Wednesday morning from the 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.840 Star in Frisco. It's Talking Cowboys presented by a Lostito's 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.400 the official Chip and Dip of the Dallas Cowboys. As 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.440 we are live and ready to go. We in here, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.680 that's right up in here, up in here, ready to roll, 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.480 as we preview the Cowboys defense and how they slowed 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.679 down that Chargers offense. It's gonna be fun here over 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.240 the next forty minutes. We got to get out a 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.280 little bit early today because we gotta get out of 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.399 the way, unfortunately because coach Mike McCarthy has shifted the 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.640 schedule around a little bit. No. To tell the truth, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.160 it's it's the break is on after us and we 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.520 have to be from That's what it is. We have 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.080 to get out of the way for there standing out 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.440 there with their watching right if you have thirty eight 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.640 that's right anyway, DJ Kelley, is it if you're at 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.320 home and you're a fan of talking cowboys, voice your 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:45.280 displeasure at Derek Eagleton. I don't want kid, okay, I 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.640 don't want to get into nervous laugh. That's another thing, 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.360 you know. I wanted to get out of the way 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.400 of all the petty drama between the break and hanging 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.760 with the boys. I think it's stupid. So you know, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.600 I do have a new challenge out what I just 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.520 I just can't on mind. I want to see Derek 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.240 eagleson know versus Rob p Island in a forty yard dash. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.000 Oh no, no, no, no. You always shy away from 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.440 stuff like you know my injury history? Do you knows mine? 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.760 I guarantee you that I don't know. Is it extensive? Yes, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.040 hamstring related, it's it's lower it's lower trimmy, it's yes, 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.040 it's it's ankles, it's just lower body. Do you want 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.400 to pass that off to would you like to? Would 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.400 you like the phone a friend in and pass that 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.920 off the Kyle. I would not be on IR designated 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.040 to return. I would just be okay. So it's just 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.280 I would like to pass my baton. I'd like to 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:42.519 pass my baton to Heck Harrison. You want he doesn't want, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.160 So Derek Eagleton versus Heck Ma Harrison. Man, listen, man, 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.639 forty my racing days is over with man, so you 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.399 shine away too. And come on, now, what is this 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.480 competitive way? You know? I mean I don't run from 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.440 no challenge. I mean, what are you talking about? Okay, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.600 what you're talking about? A CB We gotta set that up. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.079 One day he challenged him, he won eightyed right back 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:09.160 to what it is and make it understood. Let's go 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.200 what's the real quick what would the prize be here? 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.119 Like we're talking about a bonus. We're talking about pride, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.360 We're talking about the Fastest the Fastest podcast on Dallas 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.000 Cowboys dot Com. I kind of like k wise idea, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.800 let's just fly under the radar. Let let hang in 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.480 and break them. Yeah, Bachelor in Paradise thing with all 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.480 the drama here, but we can race them. Huh, but 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.960 we can race them. The racing's fine I'm talking about. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.079 I wish we would do that and do it like 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.760 a charity deal, like have a whole cheerity deal where 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.640 like we all run a forty out at the stars 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.720 and we got the things. Just have ice. I do 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.840 it in charity. I think it'd be really cool. I 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.400 put the players lounge. Probably got says the guy that 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.520 the players lounge. What he said, the players lounge and 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.160 thinks so they could beat us probably out of here. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.360 There's not nobody on any podcast. I could feel like 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.520 knew he would weigh that one down a little bit. Church. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.520 I was smash Church in the forty right now. That 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.880 makes one of us on the show. So that's it. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.960 Church get hit but he can't catch me. Oh okay, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.640 well we're gonna have to talk about that. I like 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:09.800 this now, we're really getting into this real um okay, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.760 just no, Jesse's been hitting the weights, man, Jessica hit 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.200 the weights all day long. Jesse might run a four six. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.919 Damn that's pretty high, man, that's pretty good. What are 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.720 you hitting right now? Hitting like Isiah? Faster than that, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.840 faster than than a four six? Yeah? I got leftover speed, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.960 were doing Henry Rugs have leftover speed, leftover speed, left 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.719 over Yeah, y'all do realize the break is gonna be 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.920 right behind. Yeah. I don't know what are we doing, 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.120 but this is important. Is it important? Okay, it is? 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.240 You know what else is important? Dan Quinn scheming up 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:49.320 to stop Justin Herbert and we mentioned this a little 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.280 bit yesterday, but he's gonna have to do it, uh 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.040 in the debut for Justin Herbert against the Dallas Cowboys. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.600 These two teams were originally supposed to meet last year 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.599 in the preseason, which we would have seen the first 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.560 little haste of Justin Herbert. But now the second year 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.839 rookie makes his way against the Dallas Cowboys in front 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.880 of a full so fine stadium. I mean, it's gonna 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.920 be a packed house and it'll probably be pretty darn loud, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.600 if I guess, I think it's gonna be rocking. But Rob, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.080 when you look at Justin Herbert and the specific things 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.599 that he can do on the offensive side, what scares 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.080 you the most about what you've seen? I think it's 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.040 I think it's his beyond just his skill set, it's 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.039 the guys around him. I mean, he's got maybe the 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.839 best receiver, one of the top receivers in the league. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.280 And we'll get into all the different guys, but I'll 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.800 just you know, they've got a nice two punch it 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.159 wide at tight end, and they've rebuilt their offensive line, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.960 so you know, it's early, so it's hard to know 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.000 exactly what they look like. And they went up against 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.600 a really good defense that got to him to some 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.560 degree Washington did last week. But it's just kind of 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.479 a better supporting cast than he had last year. So 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.440 I kind of look at the same as Joe Burrow 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:03.280 in Cincinnati, Like, just by that alone, Uh, he's more 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.839 of a challenge than he would be last year. I think. Yeah, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.200 coming out of coming out of Oregon, I think a 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.839 lot of people had him ranked a little bit too low. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.720 I mean after he after his rookie season. Um and 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.800 Justin hurt Herbert is one of those guys that have 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:22.120 easily got the uh, the reputation of being a smart quarterback. Obviously, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.920 I think he's like a bio moleculars guy as far 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.080 as his degree playing what's concerned. None of us would 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.320 have been able to get in that degree play and 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.240 I don't do that. But just a smart guy. And 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.080 not only that, he's big, it's big, and he has 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.240 a big arm, and he's one of those guys that 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.000 I believe that the NFL views him as the future. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:49.840 I mean He's quintessential uh quarterback, big smart um and 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.760 big arm, you know. So you know, I look at him, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.000 and I look at some of the things that he 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.400 does on the field, and I'm like, wow, I really 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.520 enjoy watching that kind of quarterback play for me. The 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:10.720 San Diego walk right into that. The Chargers, uh, you know, 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:13.960 they don't with Lombardi their their offensive coordinator. They don't 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.080 do a lot of motion and things like that. So 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.040 I think they put him in the best position to succeed. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.240 But I think there's some other things about his game 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.960 that will will get into as well. Yeah, Heckman just 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.440 went straight into my point. Lombardi is really the key 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:27.920 to this thing. I know, we want to talk about 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.400 Herbert and some of the other guys they have out there, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.160 Allen and Eckler and all those guys. But um, but 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.120 Lombardi puts these guys in position to be successful. And 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.240 I say that because as I've been watching the film, 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:39.920 I've probably watched this game a good four or five 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.960 times now. Where these guys are running West Coast offense. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.640 This is straight West Coast, this is straight mirrored routes, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.200 old school Jason Garrett ish. All right, But but shorter routes, right, Jason, 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.600 Gary used to make you hold the ball a little bit. 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.000 These routes are five ten yards down the field and 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.840 they try to lull you to sleep. They give him 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.320 high percentage passes to throw, they're giving him easy reads. 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.600 He does. He doesn't have to think. He's getting a 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.680 ball in the hands of his playmakers, and they're asking 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.520 those guys that didn't go do what they do in 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.400 terms of the yak yardists. So I'm as I look 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.200 at this, at this offense, our defense, I'm trying to think, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.280 what can they do, what can they do to disrupt 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.920 where Herbert knows because they're not gonna really have the 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.360 time to get back there. I'm a challenge like last 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.400 week where Brady's got the ball out of his hands 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.000 two seconds second half, it's gonna be like that. Yeah. Well, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.960 and it's because of the way that they scheme it up. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.640 And you're right the game that you're referencing, the Washington 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.800 Los Angeles game that happened in Week one. I was 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.199 expecting Herbert to come and throw the football around a 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.240 little bit. I mean, his arm talent is elite. That's 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.160 what I had on my scouting report. Last year whenever 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.520 he was coming out of Oregon elite arm talent. And 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.560 then you also look on the outside and I would 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:49.280 say Mike Williams and along with Keenan Allen, are both 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.160 top notch deep threats in the league, both of which 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.839 can take the top off of a defense. But they don't. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.400 At least they didn't last week, and they might this week. 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.480 That's my question that I'm going to turn around to you. 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.640 Do you expect them to do something like that? I 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.480 think they may take more shots at us. Reason being, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.200 when you're playing against against the Washington football team, you 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.400 don't want to hold the ball, for instance a period 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.600 of time. So they weren't allowing those guys to get home, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.840 even though their ricky tackle did a heck of a 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.760 job keeping the deep. As a line of if Washington, yes, later, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.040 freaking man, he showed up. I didn't even know who 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:26.440 this cat was until I watched the film. You knew 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.360 who he feeled me in? Yeah, you feeled me in, 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:30.840 But no, um. I think that they did a heck 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.760 of a job and are I think they're gonna take 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.840 more shots against us if we based upon what we 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.079 put on film last week. They are going to test 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.760 us and it's our it kind of it kind of 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.360 backdoors what we were saying yesterday in terms of us 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.640 being able to match their personnel. We need to put 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.880 our bigs on their bigs. We need Diggs, we need 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.560 nay Sean, We need those guys putting hands on those 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.720 guys in line of scrimmage so that they can't get 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.880 free releases and that they can't get down the field. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.080 And then our d line has time to get home. Yeah, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.600 but you're right that they would get in the last 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.640 week's game, they'd get the ball and Keenan Allen's hands 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.280 in space like out on the edge, bubble screen type 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.640 stuff and let him go to work, which he can do. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.640 And he's going to be the biggest challenge, there's no 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.440 question about it. And they move him around as well, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.240 move him in the slot a little bit, try to 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.400 get him off of potential double coverage and stuff like that. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.600 So it starts with him, but they've got other guys. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.480 Heck no, and I watched the same game, and you 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.000 realize that Herbert was cognizant of getting the ball out 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.600 of his hand. He knew that pressure was coming. But 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.360 Keenan Allen to me, is the possession receiver for the Chargers. 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.000 He's a guy that can run all of those intermediate routes. 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.199 He does that well. I mean, top five deal alive 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.559 when it comes down to route runners. Keenan Allen is 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.480 that you know, and you can argue at five all 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.480 you want to, but he is in the mix of 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.400 some of the best Mike Williams when you watch when 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.400 you watch the Chargers, he's there, big play guy. And 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.280 the thing that I noticed about Herbert is he is 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.080 still a young quarterback and he has young quarterback tendencies. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.839 He will stare down his receivers and that may be 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.880 the opportunity for our defense because he does that. Now, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.600 I gotta ask you, because you know a lot of 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.600 times when you give your anecdotal accounts about playing wide 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.280 receivers in DBS in this league, why is the perception 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:15.120 that if you're a zone corner you're you're not any good? 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.720 Because to me, looking at this team, if you play zone, 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.680 you don't have to travel guys. You can actually stay 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.080 back and do all the things that you talked about 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.040 as far as putting hands on guys and recognizing where 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.800 the areas that you're covering so you don't have to 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.920 take the same approach that you did last week per 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.680 se with Tampa. True. And so I mean, for you, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.880 do you think that when you looked at the tape, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.560 did you say zone works better versus or are we 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.160 gonna stay true to the Tampa two man? I think 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:45.880 I think you want to play zone. I think you 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.920 want to play kind of one high zone though, because 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.360 the reason being, these guys run a lot of flag routes, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.080 a lot of out routes, yep. And you want to 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.040 have those guys underneath, right, you want to have four 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.640 to five guys playing within that five to ten yard 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.480 barrier because that's where they're living. So putting being able 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.800 to put you know, Neil and be able to put 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.880 Parsons and Jabril Cox and all these guys at that 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.400 second level to be able to run sideline the sideline, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.040 but also have the length, to be able to consolidate 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.280 those those gaps, because you're gonna have gaps in his zone. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.080 That's what his zone is, right, and those guys are 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.680 gonna try to try to you know, obviously take advantage 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.280 of that. But when you have length and when you 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.719 have speed, that's when you can kind of counter their 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.120 ability to be able to convert on those things, do 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.040 you think. I mean, I'm just trying to go back 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.559 to what we had talked about yesterday because we mentioned 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.959 man versus zone against. This has your thought process shifted? 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.480 It all on what you want to go to in 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.400 terms of how you would if you were in dan 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.720 quinn shoes combat this off. I think you have to 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.640 mix it up. And the thing is those guys, you 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.680 obviously don't want to come out and just run straight zones, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.160 especially yeah, especially with these guys, and that's not what 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.880 they did last year. That's what they did last we give. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.440 I mean, you would never do that in the game plan. However, 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.559 these guys run a lot of tight splits. So when 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.160 you're running a lot of tight splits, it makes it 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.680 difficult to play man. What is tight splits? Tight splits 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.200 meaning that the receivers, instead of being out wide, they're 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.840 literally close to the tackles. Right, So these guys are 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.160 three two to three yards off of the tackle. Looks 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.440 like a bunch. It looks like a kind of a 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.160 bunch set. But you know, two guys on each side 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.640 and they're typically running the same round. Keeping things snug. Yeah, 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.640 so you allow yourself to have you know, twelve or 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.800 fifteen yards of space to run your routes on the 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.240 outside kind instead of instead of lining up five yards 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.439 from the sideline, now you have fifteen yards from the 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.520 sideline to work, and it open open things up. Also, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.440 if I'm close to me, if me and Rob pe 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.080 are in a in a tight set right and we're 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.040 close to our tackles, now all of a sudden, if 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.680 you guys are playing man to man, we can do 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.440 all kinds of nasty things in terms of our release 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.720 to pick you guys. I can have Rob cross my 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.600 face and guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna run 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.240 over the top of Heck mon, well, guess where I'm going. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.480 I'm going underneath Rob, so he can't play me man 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.760 to man. It's an easy five yard pitching cash, just 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.120 like he talked about Keenan Allen getting and then guess what, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.320 now you have to worry about this guy in his 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.000 yack yardage. I was just gonna say, the Rams run 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.680 some of that kind of stuff absolutely where. And there's 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.960 a lot of variations off of that depending on what 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.720 the coverage is. So yeah, McBay likes and no one 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.679 did the pick plays better than New England cheaters. But 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.360 that's yeah, I read a lot of pig plays. But 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:08.880 you're right. I just want to go back to what 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.480 you said about dan Quinn and just disguising those coverages 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.560 showing man playing zone things like that, and everybody does 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.840 it in the NFL. I mean, but at the same time, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.560 you're dealing with still a young quarterback and you want 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.440 to make sure that you disguise it. But let's go 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.480 back to what we know is gonna work for this defense, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:28.120 and it's an old remedy, your defensive line creating pressure. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.160 It's gonna it's gonna cure everything. You know. It's it's 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.760 like my grandmother and castor all Man, she thought that 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:40.840 that cured everything. To take it, yeah, you know, it's horrible, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.640 but it's an old remedy that cured everything. And the 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.760 defensive line is that cure. I mean, if you can 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.200 get pressure on the quarterback, then that alleviates a lot 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.840 of the time that you're dealing with in that zone 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.000 in man. So I'm looking for this defensive line today, 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.480 I mean for Sunday to just I mean, bring it. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.400 If You're gonna bring a blitz get home, and that's 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.640 what we have to Michael Parsons last week did not 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.840 get the pressure on Tom Brady because of his quick releases. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.200 But I think we have opportunity this week. You have 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.640 an opportunity to get after a young quarterback this week, 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.680 and I think that's something that no matter what it is. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.880 I mean, Tom Brady and Justin Herbert are on different 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.760 levels in terms of getting the football out quick, no 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.360 matter how much you scheme it up. For Justin Herbert, 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:26.120 I want to see I'm in the same way. I 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.680 want to see DeMarcus Lawrence get after it. He had 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.440 the forced fumble last week. I want him to have 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.120 an encore. I want him to come after the quarterback. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:34.640 I want to get a couple of sacks because he 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.400 didn't really see a whole lot of that. That is 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.360 that when you bring up de Marcus Ware, that is 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:44.600 Lawrence Lawrence, de Marcus Lawrence Storm Norton is the left tackle. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.640 That the tackle that he's going to be going against. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.320 The right tackle, yeah, that he's going to be going against. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.920 And I mean that one on one matchup, if he 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.520 has it, he has to win that matchup. Definitely see 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.400 you guys are looking at the d line. I'm honestly 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.520 looking at our second level this game. I'm looking at 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.080 the linebacker. I'm leving our linebackers. I think our ability 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.920 to run and hit is going to be the deciding 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.560 factor for us. I think they're going to get the 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.680 ball out. Will they take their shots? Absolutely? Absolutely, especially 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.080 if we put you know, shorter stature guys on their 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.120 big boys out there. They're running six two six four 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:15.720 out there, all right. They have a little guy too, 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.680 but he's in the backfield and he's kind of shifty, right. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.560 But in terms of us, I think our guys a 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.120 gonna have to run and hit and be physical as 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.760 all get out, obviously rushing to the ball, swarming the 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.320 ball and trying to get the ball out that way. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.280 I think we got force turnovers. We did it last week, 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:30.920 but I think we can force turnovers that way. But 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.640 I really think it's going to be dependent on our 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.280 second level guys being able to make plays. 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