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Speaker 2: let's start with something before I ask you to start

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Speaker 2: telling me how things are looking going into Iowa now

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Speaker 2: less than two months away and all this stuff. George

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Speaker 2: Santos as we speak right now, has been expelled from

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Speaker 2: the Congress. What's your take on this? And what do

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Speaker 2: you think the GOP believes they've accomplished by doing this?

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Speaker 2: You will?

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Speaker 1: You know, George asked me be his campaign manager. I

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Speaker 1: knew George back before all the controversy. I he told

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Speaker 1: people we grew up together, which we did not. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why he told people that he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, listen he uh be careful what you

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Speaker 1: wish for. He really wanted to be famous, and he

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Speaker 1: is famous for sure. And I think that Listen, he's

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Speaker 1: a liar and I I I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: against him is very strong, and the likeoo him going

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Speaker 1: to jail is very high. And I I see what

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Speaker 1: they did. He also didn't help himself by not making

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Speaker 1: friends so out the way yesterday famously, when Max Miller

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Speaker 1: said that he has stole money, he said to Max Miller,

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Speaker 1: will you beat women? Which is an allegation allegation of

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Speaker 1: Max Miller's past. He was willing to burn every bridge

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Speaker 1: on the way out, so he did in the end.

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Speaker 1: I think this is actually not a great precedent though

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Speaker 1: for Congress, because he has not been found guilty of

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Speaker 1: any charges, and that is the precedent for everything going forward.

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Speaker 1: He's one of six members own ever to get expelled

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Speaker 1: from Congress. He's the first Republican to get expelled from Congress,

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Speaker 1: and the other three members who had found the other

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Speaker 1: court of law, and the other three were members of

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Speaker 1: the Confederacy. So it's a very dangerous precedent. I think

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Speaker 1: by doing this, I understand why they did it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he is, in my opinion, very clearly obviously guilty. He

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Speaker 2: What was the what's of the allegations? Because you said,

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Speaker 2: either there's there's a criminal component of this that's playing

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Speaker 2: out alongside this simultaneously. What's the worst thing that he did?

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Speaker 1: He stole He stole donors credit card information and used

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Speaker 1: it for personal purchases for clothes, vacations, Botox only fans subscriptions.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a wiring fraud charge. He made up

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Speaker 1: that he had donations that he'd never had, which is

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Speaker 1: an FBC violation, which was a criminal violation. He was

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Speaker 1: detail how that money got there. He wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions into like where the

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Speaker 2: I mean, so is it fair to say if he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the chances of him going to federal prison are

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Speaker 1: It's going to be hard to find a jury that

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Speaker 2: What was so you you know him a bit right?

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Speaker 2: I mean you were his campaign manager at one.

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Speaker 1: Point, asked me to be his campaign manager?

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Speaker 2: Ask you his campaign manager? Yeah, I said no, what

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Speaker 2: Okay? Probably a good one of the best things I

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Speaker 2: that there was something off about this guy?

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Speaker 1: Well, he would always tell me how wealthy he was.

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Speaker 1: And you know wealthy people, I know very wealthy people,

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Speaker 1: There's an old saying that wealth whispers and money screams,

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Speaker 1: weird nonsense. And he'd always talk about money every chance

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Speaker 1: red flag. And then one day he called me and

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Speaker 1: he said that he was mugged in a parking lot

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Speaker 1: and he said that they stole his bag, his briefcase bag,

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Speaker 1: and he got robbed of his bag. And my friend said, oh,

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Speaker 1: what was the bag? And I described exactly what georgiad

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Speaker 1: He's like, that bag flat out does not exist. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I know this, I know the brand that makes these bags.

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Speaker 2: This is not Are you hold on a second. Are

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Speaker 2: you sure they didn't make a special edition George Santos bag.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't, He wasn't nobody at the time. He also

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding, right, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know. He told me that

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Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party tried to kidnap his niece at

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Speaker 1: extraordinarily large. I was like this, like this guy's following shit.

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Speaker 2: But I just thought, when did this all start unrappling?

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Speaker 2: It was stuff about his bio, right, like he lied

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Speaker 1: Our last conversation George and I ever had was the

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Speaker 1: New York Times. Was supposed to be doing this puff

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Speaker 1: he had flipped. He had the second highest result for

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary piece and yet or third, whatever the case.

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Speaker 1: It was very very very amazing performance in a Biden district.

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Speaker 1: And he they were supposed to be his puff piece.

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Speaker 1: And the more they question him, the more they didn't like.

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Speaker 1: Things didn't add up, And like you're from New York

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Speaker 1: City like I am. He went to a Quney school

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Speaker 2: Harvard Definitely, that's almost like say you grow on the

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Speaker 1: It made no sense. And then but like Harvard does

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Speaker 1: like unless they fall. Like it's just everything was such

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Speaker 1: an extraordinarily insane lie. And then I called him and

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Speaker 1: I go, okay, well you need to hire a crisis

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Speaker 1: you need to do like whatever. And I said, what

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Speaker 1: of this is not true? And He's like, the only

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Speaker 1: journalist was like, you should investigate Ryan Grudusky. So I

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll just say what I know

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Speaker 1: he was, just yeah, he lies. It's a compulsory problem.

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Speaker 2: Cannot not lie, So can I can? I ask? I

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Speaker 2: they're shouting about right now, now that Sound Santos has

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Speaker 2: been expelled. They're saying, why is it Senator Menendez expelled?

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Speaker 2: And I don't really have a good answer for them,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like Democrat senator from New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Second time he's been federally indicted, and he probably should

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Speaker 1: I agree, I don't think I if I was a

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Speaker 1: dangerous precedent. You don't The precedent is you have to

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Speaker 1: are removed from office. That is the president. It's been

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Speaker 1: fifty years. I think that it is a very dangerous

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Speaker 1: to go to federal prison as well. If there's like

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Speaker 1: know he's being convicted in DC or in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: but he clearly was like getting information, give me information

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Speaker 1: to the Egyptian government like the guy was, or Turkish

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Speaker 1: government whatever I think it was. The Egyptian. Yeah, Egyptian guy

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Speaker 1: is clearly guilty as sin. He was probably going to

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Speaker 1: was the guy is guilty as anything. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know George is not running for re election anyway.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could have waited to see how the

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Speaker 1: how it all bore out, but then the investigation happened.

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Speaker 1: But I agree, I think that Bob and this should

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Speaker 1: be indicted and impeached. Uh, if you're in if that's

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Speaker 1: this is a new standard, A lot of people may

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Speaker 1: this is the new standard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it strikes me as okay, like this

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Speaker 2: is the rule. Now just wait until they decide to.

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Speaker 1: Meet you and then be impeached as well. Who what

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Speaker 1: He's going into the caucuses. Everything's on Iowa for him.

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Speaker 1: so it's much much, much different. You have to show

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Speaker 1: Hakaby he had a surprise victory in oh eight. Iowa

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Speaker 1: give surprises a lot to people, but they very rarely

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Speaker 1: picked the nominee. I think going all in Iowa is

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Speaker 1: probably not the smartest move politically. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it gives life to his campaign after Iowa, but it's something.

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Speaker 1: But he has to win it. If he does not

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Speaker 1: other way around it. And Haley is surging I think

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Speaker 1: everywhere else. But the problem for Haley is Haley has

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Speaker 1: Desanta's voter is I like Trump, but I also like you,

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Speaker 1: If the Santans drops out, in my opinion, seventy five

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Speaker 1: So the argument that if you know, Haley is surging,

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Speaker 2: here because it's getting now. We're past the state. You

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Speaker 2: could get a new candidate on the ballot easily, and

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Speaker 2: everyone just keeps telling me it's not going to be Biden.

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Speaker 2: I was at a dinner last night with a bunch

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Speaker 2: it's going to be Biden. Slash Harris like it has

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Speaker 2: to be one or the other or both. There's no

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Speaker 2: other plan. Is there another plan? Really? Am I missing something? No,

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Speaker 1: This is like only heard Oprah was going to be

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Speaker 1: no other plan. It is gonna be Biden, like unless

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Speaker 1: serious injury that literally forbid him to run. He is

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Speaker 1: going to be the Democratic nominee for office. I know

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Speaker 1: He is going to be the Democratic nominee. He is

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Speaker 1: I just don't see in any capacity it'll be anybody else.

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Speaker 1: And if something happens to him, it's gonna become a law.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: And see we're like on an island by the way

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Speaker 2: everyone else that I talk to about there's oh, it's

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Speaker 2: like unity candidate at the m it's Biden. Biden is

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Speaker 2: their unity the president. I totally, I totally agree. I'm

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Speaker 2: living crazy here everyone. Everyone's coming up with these dudes like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be an RFK Junior and Michelle Obama ticket.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you like? This isn't you know,

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Speaker 2: like an episode of the West Wing guys there, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's constantly I disagree with you it's gonna be you know,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be someone else. I'm like, guys, he's the president.

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Speaker 2: He's running for re election, full stop. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what else to say. I just like knowing, you know.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, you know, there's a lot of people listen. If

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Speaker 1: Jill Biden loves being first Lady. She does not want

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Speaker 1: him to step down. She hates Kamala Harris, would ever

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Speaker 1: do anything she can to prevent him from running. His handlers,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to keep checking in with you, like

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Speaker 2: You agree with me on this. Everyone else is like,

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Speaker 2: you don't understand. They're gonna they're gonna like bring Teddy

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Speaker 2: mister Ryan Gardusky. Thank you, sir. I have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk soon. Thanks buddy,