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Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz hanging out with you

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible for us to get to hang out with

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Speaker 3: you and help get your Thanksgiving days started right or

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Speaker 3: your wild night before Thanksgiving set off on the right tone.

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Speaker 3: We've got some huge football games coming up over the

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Speaker 3: course of this weekend for Thanksgiving weekend. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: the NFL does a brilliant job of scheduling, and we

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Speaker 3: spend so much time in April, you know, talking about

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Speaker 3: the schedule week to week.

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Speaker 2: But these are the.

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Speaker 3: Reminders, Buck of how smart the NFL isn't making sure

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Speaker 3: that they've stacked the lineup with the best possible, like

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Speaker 3: giving us Green Bay Detroit was gonna give us.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you get division match up here.

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Speaker 3: Even if these teams suck, there was still gonna be

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Speaker 3: so much incredible sort of hype around at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore also protected.

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Speaker 3: They did a smart thing, and then they gave us

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Speaker 3: the two biggest brands in the sport, right Kansas City

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Speaker 3: and Dallas. And it's funny because you mentioned earlier that

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Speaker 3: Dallas hasn't been really America's team in much of your lifetime,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's an important context here because this

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Speaker 3: is America's team versus America's team. But I personally don't

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Speaker 3: have a rooting interest for either of these teams. I

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Speaker 3: have a Raiders tattoo for the love of all things holy.

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Speaker 3: But I think anybody with two eyes can look at

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Speaker 3: it and say, Okay, what the Chiefs had become as

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Speaker 3: a brand for all of sports, but particularly for the

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Speaker 3: NFL is just absolutely people flock to it, and for

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Speaker 3: years people flock to it to root for it. Now

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Speaker 3: it feels like we're at that spot where it's become

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Speaker 3: so good that now whether people are hate watching it

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Speaker 3: or watching it, it's like the modern Howard Stern right,

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Speaker 3: like people are in either way on consuming anything. Roger

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Speaker 3: Goodell said before that the Kansas City was like printing

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Speaker 3: money for the league. Right, So the Chiefs versus the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys is such a brilliant move. Four to thirty in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon on CBS, right in the middle of like

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Speaker 3: everybody ate the first round of dinner. Now you need

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Speaker 3: a gap to sort of recalibrate. The numbers on this

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Speaker 3: thing are going to be epic. They're going to be huge,

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Speaker 3: and it's a reminder, as you and I have talked about,

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Speaker 3: and I want to just make sure everybody's clear on

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Speaker 3: the NFL sells you parody, and it sells you.

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Speaker 2: It's the league that every year has a chance. It

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Speaker 2: is not.

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Speaker 3: There are a ton of terrible football teams more weeks

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Speaker 3: than not. There are bad products on the field. I

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Speaker 3: don't care, You don't care, nobody cares. Everybody still watches it. Right,

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Speaker 3: So Chiefs Cowboys is going to pull an epic number

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Speaker 3: and it's just going to be a reminder of the

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we need to be reminded of

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Speaker 4: the dominance of the league on a regular basis. I

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Speaker 4: think we're all fully aware how much time and not

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Speaker 5: Uh here in Nashville using.

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Speaker 2: We're using reporter really loosely, like you follow.

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Speaker 3: An NFL you're an NFL team, you know, hangout a reporter,

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Speaker 3: Like what would hang out?

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to say.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't time when I was doing a lot more.

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Speaker 4: God, if I was a groupie of a one in

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Speaker 4: ten football team, you would be able to question many,

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Speaker 4: many more things about my life decisions than you already

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Speaker 4: watched already would Yeah, no, I I just spent a

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Speaker 4: Uh so, yes, I think that I think that is fair.

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Speaker 4: And then you have the Taylor Swift element added into

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys, who, like I understand that they have championships

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Speaker 4: in their history, but it is very very much history

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Speaker 4: where the Cowboys have been versus where the Cowboys were

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Speaker 4: for their best period of time in the nineties. That

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Speaker 4: losers necessarily. They've had successful regular seasons. They've won double

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Speaker 4: Like I just think of the Cowboys as a thing,

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Speaker 4: like they're a side show. They're not a real NFL

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Speaker 4: in terms of meaningful winning. So to see them get

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Speaker 5: A Cowboys fan or not. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a unique experience for me in

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Speaker 5: In thirty two years.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Cowboys are Nickelback, Like they just look a

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Speaker 2: People go see Nickelback. The music did really well.

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Speaker 3: Imagine Dragons. Maybe the Cowboys are Imagine Dragons. They were

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Speaker 2: Years, two different years. Yeah, two different years.

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Speaker 3: Imagine Dragon is the most downloaded band in the most

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys are popular, but it doesn't mean that the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are particularly special. That's the thing I've always said

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Speaker 3: is that, like every time a Cowboys fan says, well,

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Speaker 3: we haven't won a Super Bowl since the nineties, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl since the nineties. You're not special, You're just Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, there's twelve teams that have never

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Speaker 2: That number sounds about right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what if thought, but like, that's every

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Speaker 3: time I hear Cowboys fans way, it's been this long

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Speaker 3: and it hasn't been your era. So I don't really

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Speaker 3: and then talking about Kansas City, where's the love for

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Speaker 3: go out and they win that Super Bowl. They're eight

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Speaker 2: Eagles are, how how just how all of the problems

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Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like there's the same level of love

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Speaker 5: Why I don't think they're doing acrobatics.

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Speaker 4: When AJ Brown is telling you it every turn publicly,

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Speaker 5: That's not people doing acrobatics.

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Speaker 4: That's a star wide receiver, one of the most famous

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Speaker 4: We could be better. I know we're eight in three.

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Speaker 3: But we loved it when Bill belichicked it. We didn't,

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Speaker 3: but many people loved it when Belichick did that. Like

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown is a student of the standard. Is the standard, right?

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Speaker 3: And as I've said to you before, Nick Saban famously

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Speaker 3: just fine. AJ Brown looks around and says, we are

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Speaker 2: I don't fault that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's wrong even in how he's saying that.

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Speaker 3: But we seem to love it. When Tom Brady did

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Speaker 3: that and he was winning Super Bowls for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: People seem to fall in love with Bill and Brady.

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Speaker 2: Where is that? Why is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it just because they boot Santa Claus the generation

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Speaker 2: It took him.

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Speaker 5: You've done. Have you done a game in Philly? No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's it is so you you talk about the

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Speaker 4: multiple games Titans Eagles, but the first time that I

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Speaker 4: the season that they traded Aj Brown to the Eagles

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Speaker 4: I would never, ever, ever recommend that any kind of

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Speaker 4: But to watch that through three foot a glass for

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Speaker 2: Raiders kick the snot out of them.

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Speaker 3: There are bad fan bases all across the NFL. There

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Speaker 2: Happens all the time. It's happened all the time. I

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Speaker 3: That being said, I'm not going to root against the

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Speaker 4: Not saying that either. I'm not rooting against him, No,

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Speaker 3: Usually, we love, we love the beginning era of dominance.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next.

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Speaker 3: For all the conversation about Thanksgiving Day game, a big

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Speaker 2: Book there's a chance, there's a chance.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Seattle Seahawks losing in a

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Speaker 3: got to be He's got to be better. He's got

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Speaker 3: to be better. When it's his game to win, and

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Speaker 3: we haven't really had to see him do that that much.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's the combination of all of these

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Speaker 3: things that just make me nervous about the Colts moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that logic. It's the AFC South.

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Speaker 4: The four AFC South games remaining on their schedule is

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Speaker 4: a very bizarre quirk there that I can't imagine Colts

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Speaker 4: fans are terribly pleased about just looking at Houston's Road

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Speaker 4: the rest of the way through. They are at Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: this weekend, then at the Chiefs home, Cardinals home Raiders

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Speaker 4: at Chargers home Colts to.

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Speaker 5: End the regular season.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean easier definitely when you have the Cardinals,

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Speaker 4: Raiders and a banged up Chargers team left on your schedule,

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Speaker 4: But you're still.

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Speaker 5: Dealing with.

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Speaker 4: A lesser hand if you're the Texans, especially if CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud is going to come back and make this thing

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Speaker 4: a little more erratic. I just don't I think that

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Speaker 4: whatever Indy, whatever setbacks Indie might experience the rest of

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Speaker 4: the way through, I think that the thing that they've

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Speaker 4: done that's so important is that they've bought themselves that

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Speaker 4: margin for error FITZI because I could see them, you know,

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Speaker 4: leveling out and going what we have six games left,

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Speaker 4: eight three and three down the stretch, and that's still

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Speaker 4: being good enough to win the AFC South in its

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Speaker 4: current state. Jacksonville may push them, Houston may push them,

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Speaker 4: but I think that they to get that eight and

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Speaker 4: three start was so critical, so unexpected, and they did

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Speaker 4: it against reasonably good competition to where they when they

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Speaker 4: do hit the toughest stretch of their schedule, which will

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Speaker 4: be the final month of the regular season, that they

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Speaker 4: can at least have something to fall back on.

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Speaker 2: You're not wrong.

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Speaker 3: They definitely gave themselves a bigger advantage going into this

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Speaker 3: portion of the season than I ever could have expected.

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Speaker 3: And to your point, if they only go five hundred

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Speaker 3: the rest of the way, they still finished eleven and six.

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Speaker 3: This right has been absolutely it's it's pretty remarkable to

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Speaker 3: see what's happened here, and it's changed the way that

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Speaker 3: we talk about Shane Steiken.

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Speaker 2: We need to take a look at this week.

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Speaker 3: So often we want to give up on coaching quarterback,

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Speaker 3: but we have a living, eating, breathing example right now

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Speaker 3: in the NFL of why sometimes you have to let

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Speaker 3: the context of all of it play out before you

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Speaker 3: make big decisions, which I think every fan base needs

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Speaker 3: to hear. We'll talk more about that in a second,

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Speaker 3: but first, Manzi belongios, get us caught up on what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: I know it's late, but there are still games going on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, everything's wrapping up as we speak, but it is

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Speaker 7: a late night in sports, and already Thursday on some

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Speaker 7: parts of the country. On this Thanksgiving Thursday, guys, there

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Speaker 7: are three NFL games on the schedule. It all starts

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Speaker 7: from Detroit Lions hosting the Packers. That's at one pm

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Speaker 7: Eastern time, then the Chiefs and the Cowboys. Running Back

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Speaker 7: Isamha Checko is expected to play for Kansas City. He's

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Speaker 7: missed the last couple of games with a knee injury.

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Speaker 7: And it ends in Baltimore as the Ravens will be

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Speaker 7: hosting the Bengals. That kicks off at a twenty pm

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Speaker 7: Eastern time, and Joe Burrow is expected to start for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Other NFL news, Panther safety Trevon Morg's appeal of his

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Speaker 7: one game suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct was denied, so he's

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Speaker 7: not gonna miss Sunday's game against the Rams, as well

504
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Speaker 7: as sixty five thousand dollars no pointal. Four time Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl Detroit Lions center Frank Ragnow is coming out of retirement.

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Speaker 7: And when it comes to the NBA, well, the last

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Speaker 7: game was the Rockets and the Warriors.

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Speaker 2: It was fun game.

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Speaker 7: Houston won at one oh four to one hundred, no KD,

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Speaker 7: no Kevin Durant, no problem reached. Shepherd dropped thirty one

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Speaker 7: points for Houston. That's a career high. Steph Curry struggled

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Speaker 7: from the field and to make it worse, he kind

513
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Speaker 7: of took a hit in the fourth quarter. They just

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Speaker 7: announced that he suffered a right quad contusion. That's Steph Curry.

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Speaker 7: The Suns had a won twelve to one hundred win

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Speaker 7: over the Kings. Mark Williams with a double double twenty

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Speaker 7: one points and sixteen rebounds. Nicks crushed the Hornets won

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Speaker 7: twenty nine to one oh one. Jalen Brunson thirty three

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Speaker 7: points in that one.

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Speaker 2: The Heat topped the Bucks.

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Speaker 7: One O six to one ozho three, Tyler hero A

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Speaker 7: twenty nine points and Brandon Ingram hit the game the

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Speaker 7: game winner as the Raptors defeated the Pacers ninety seven

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Speaker 7: to ninety five. The Celtics survived one seventeen to to

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Speaker 7: one fourteen against the Piston, snapping Detroit's thirteen game winning streak.

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Speaker 7: They were down three to Stroit was down three with

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Speaker 7: five seconds left and Kate Cunningham was fouled at the three.

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Speaker 7: He only made two free throws, he could have tied

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Speaker 7: the game. It didn't work out. Cunningham ended with forty

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Speaker 7: two points in the loss. But it is the Thunder

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Speaker 7: season and everyone else is just here to play for

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Speaker 7: second place because they are just cruising through the season.

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Speaker 7: They're eighteen and one, the fifth NBA team in history

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Speaker 7: to start the season eighteen and one.

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Speaker 2: Are better.

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Speaker 7: They won ten in a row. They outscored the Timberwolves

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Speaker 7: one thirteen to one oh five. Shay Gildas Alexander dropped

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Speaker 7: forty points in the win. Anthony Davis by the way

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Speaker 7: of the Mavericks. He returned to practice on Wednesday. He

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Speaker 7: could play against the Lakers on Friday. He's missed the

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Speaker 7: last fourteen games with a strained left calf. When it

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Speaker 7: comes to baseball, the Blue jayser signing pitcher Dylan Sees

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Speaker 7: to a seven year two hundred and ten million dollar

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Speaker 7: contract pending a physical. In the NHL, the Capital's top

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Speaker 7: the Jets forty three. Alex Ovechkin scored his nine hundred

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Speaker 7: and eighth career goal, while the Avalanche of won ten

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Speaker 7: in a row after shutting out the Shark six zero,

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Speaker 7: Wild edged the Blackhawks forty three in overtime to extend

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Speaker 7: their winning streak to six, and the Lightning have won

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Speaker 7: five in a row after beating the Flames five to one. Guys,

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Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving, What a pleasure. Enjoy the rest of your

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Speaker 7: day and weekend. And good luck to cam Hord and

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Speaker 7: the Titans there buck, oh.

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Speaker 5: Luck.

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Speaker 4: I ain't got nothing to do with it, but your sentiments,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about the factors. You

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Speaker 3: didn't say good luck to the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: There was no like good luck?

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Speaker 5: Will what luck is there?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 7: Exactly?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The Raiders are rough.

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Speaker 7: They're rough, They're rough, you know, listen, the Clippers are rough,

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Speaker 7: like I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I need to sage, you know,

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Speaker 7: put stage to into it dome or like light up

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Speaker 7: some ca I don't know what I need to do.

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Speaker 7: Get someone's hair put it on a voodoo doll. But

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Speaker 7: maybe I'll do it for your raiders too.

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Speaker 2: Please, that is a great idea. I'm in. I'm in

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Speaker 2: for this.

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Speaker 3: I will take whatever whatever voodoo dolls people want to try. Like, look,

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Speaker 3: I get hey, football gods. Whatever I did that made

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Speaker 3: you guys angry twenty years ago. I hear you, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That's all I could say. Mancy, you are

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Speaker 3: the best. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving guys, this was fun. That's up my whole day

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Speaker 2: when we get to talk to Mancy Bologno. She's one

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Speaker 2: of the best in the world. Uh, he's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitz.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: I definitely don't say about that because you're just a hack.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just an absolute hack. If you missed

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Speaker 3: Adiot Today's show, you missed me doing all the hard

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Speaker 3: work carrying him. You catch the podcast, just search Jason

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Speaker 3: Smith and Mike Harmer wherever he gets podcast. Right after

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Speaker 3: show Today's podcast gets supposed to be sure to follow

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Speaker 3: the podcast rate a five stars.

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Speaker 2: You can even give a review. Don't hold us against

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Speaker 2: the boys though.

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Speaker 3: Again, just search Jason Smith, Mike Carmer wherever you get

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Speaker 3: your podcast you'll find the full show best of versions

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Speaker 3: posted right after the show.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. Look. I know we

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Speaker 2: say this a lot.

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Speaker 3: But I just I watched Daniel Jones with Shane Steichen,

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Speaker 3: and I continue to think about the fact that styles

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Speaker 3: make fights, right, like you watch cam Ward for the Titans.

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Speaker 3: That we just said, good look, but I think we

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Speaker 3: can all identify that the most important thing for the

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Speaker 3: Titans is that they bring in a head coach next

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Speaker 3: year that is the right type of head coach to

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Speaker 3: get the most out of cam Warton, Right, And this

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Speaker 3: is what we do. You mentioned earlier, Davis Mills, Right.

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Speaker 3: We talked a little earlier about Mac Jones.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: There are some veteran quarterbacks in the league that we

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Speaker 3: give up on this every year. We gave up on

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald, we gave up on Baker Mayfield. At one point,

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Speaker 3: we gave up on Geno Smith. Maybe we should again.

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Speaker 3: But you look at some of these things and you

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Speaker 3: got to ask yourself how much of it is the

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Speaker 3: player and how much of it is the system? And

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of us really know the answer

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Speaker 3: to it. Buck, It's a nuanced conversation where it's the

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Speaker 3: balance of the two together. I just think that for

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Speaker 3: every fan base that thinks, you know what, we need

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, Okay, Kayleb Williams doesn't look like Katla Williams

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Speaker 3: until he starts to get Ben Johnson though, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: at some point, you don't just need a quarterback. You

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Speaker 3: need a quarterback and a coach together that speak the

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Speaker 3: same love language, and they can figure out a way

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Speaker 3: to make that love language work in a real impalpable way.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like the Cardinals aren't sitting here saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: what we need is a new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure that might be part of it.

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Speaker 3: You might need a new quarterback, yes, I'll acquies to that,

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Speaker 3: but you also might need the right person to get

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Speaker 3: the most out of that quarterback, and.

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Speaker 2: Those guys are harder and harder to find.

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Speaker 3: So it's just like I think, so often we just

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Speaker 3: decide that it's the player that's the problem without acknowledging

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Speaker 3: that so often it's also the ability of the coach

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Speaker 3: to find the right system for that player.

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Speaker 5: And it's too much.

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Speaker 4: Again, I understand why people hyper scrutinize the quarterback position,

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Speaker 4: but it's just simply no one quarterback, no matter how

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Speaker 4: great they are, no matter how talented, no matter how

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Speaker 4: athletic or skilled any of these things, it's not enough

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Speaker 4: in the ultimate team sport to expect a quarterback to

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Speaker 4: be that much of a game changer, so over and

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Speaker 4: above the importance of every other piece and part that

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Speaker 4: has to work in concert with the quarterback that to

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Speaker 4: me FITSI. We just get so long lost in those

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Speaker 4: kind of conversations that we ignore what actually sets a

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Speaker 4: quarterback up for success. The dialogue around Caleb Williams prior

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Speaker 4: to Ben Johnson being hired, and listen, they made a

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Speaker 4: mistake in keeping Eberflus, and clearly they didn't believe it

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Speaker 4: that much in him anyway, for as quickly as they

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Speaker 4: fired him. I can relate to a similar situation where

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Speaker 4: the Titan Titans should have fired Bride Callahan after going

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Speaker 4: three and fourteen last season. They brought him back and

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Speaker 4: then fired him. What was the Raiders game six weeks

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Speaker 4: in Week six, I believe is when he lost to

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Speaker 4: your beloved Las Vegas Raiders, and one of the ugliest

659
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Speaker 4: games I've seen at any point in my NFL career,

660
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Speaker 4: much less just this NFL season alone. Like the Titans.

661
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Speaker 4: For example, cam Ward's the number one overall pick in

662
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Speaker 4: this past year's draft. They are tracking very much to

663
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Speaker 4: have the number one overall pick in the draft again,

664
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Speaker 4: and maybe because they are so bad in consecutive years.

665
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Speaker 4: They have no business being this bad in consecutive years,

666
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Speaker 4: but they are, and their schedule is tough and whatever,

667
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Speaker 4: like it's going to result in a top draft pick.

668
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Speaker 4: If not the number one draft pick, they may get

669
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Speaker 4: a situation where, all right, we got the.

670
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Speaker 5: Quarterback the first time around.

671
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Speaker 4: Now let's trade out of this number one overall draft

672
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Speaker 4: pick and let's build out the rest of the roster.

673
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 4: That is one way to do it, I personally, And

674
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: I know it's a stupid thing to say because it's

675
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Speaker 4: just simply in retrospect and what's done is done. But

676
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Speaker 4: I personally wish the Titans, if I was a Titans fan,

677
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: would have taken the Giants trade to come up to

678
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: number one overall to build out a better roster, even

679
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Speaker 4: if it meant a slightly lesser quarterback situation. I think

680
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: that you can make a lot work to your point

681
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Speaker 4: with a coach and a quarterback situation that may not

682
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Speaker 4: have the highest talent ceiling. But I think that Davis

683
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Speaker 4: Mills is a different version of that conversation. I think

684
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: Mac Jones is a different version of that conversation. Sam

685
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 4: Darnold right, there are replacement levels starting quarterbacks that have

686
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Speaker 4: the ability, because they are professional athletes, to be above

687
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Speaker 4: average at certain points, but if you don't have the

688
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Speaker 4: roster around them to support it, then it's all for nought.

689
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Speaker 4: So I almost if I was a Titans fan, I

690
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: would have some buyers remorse. Even as cam is coming

691
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Speaker 4: off a couple of his best performances of the season

692
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Speaker 4: then against quality defenses the Texans and the Seahawks.

693
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Speaker 5: To his credit, he's at least.

694
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Speaker 4: Looking like he is stacking performances, even if the wins

695
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 4: aren't coming outright yet because the team is so awful

696
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Speaker 4: around him. But at the end of the day, I

697
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: think he's been thrust into a tough situation for his

698
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: own development, and I think in a better world, I

699
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: would have liked to see cam Ward on the Giants

700
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Speaker 4: because it would have given him a better chance for success.

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Speaker 3: To me, as I said to somebody this week that asked,

702
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: are the Raiders going to take a quarterback this offseason

703
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: in the draft, probably they probably should, but to me

704
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: what I've seen over the last few weeks from their

705
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: offensive line, you could put Moses back there, specifically Moses

706
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: because he has to part the ridcia, so you'd have

707
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Speaker 3: to put somebody back there like that. I just want

708
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: to remin everybody that if the playoffs started today, Daniel

709
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Jones would start a playoff game. If the playoffs started today,

710
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: would we would have Baker Mayfield starting a playoff game

711
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: he was given up on, we'd have we'd have the

712
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: number of retreade quarterbacks here.

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold would start a playoff game, right, So.

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Speaker 3: Just just a reminder that everybody says, oh, got to

715
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Speaker 3: go find a quarterback, especially when you start to act

716
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: to then acknowledge that you've got to draft a quarterback first.

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Speaker 2: Overall, Rock Party would be starting a playoff game.

718
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Speaker 3: Did anybody come into the process of Rock Party thinking, Wow,

719
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: that guy's the guy for everybody who thinks that the

720
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: quarterback is going to fix everything for your team. The

721
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Rams are where they are because they're a great team

722
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: that also happens to have a great quarterback. It's it's

723
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: no one portion of it, it's all of it combined.

724
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Speaker 3: It just takes more time for that to be accomplished.

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00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: All right, three your time, It is time for the

726
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: single greatest game show in the history of all of

727
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: sports talk radio. Would you rather coming at your next

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Speaker 3: bucket fits? On Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 3: live editions of The Jason Smith's Show with Mike Harmon

730
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. He's Buck

731
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Speaker 3: Rising out Jason Fitz hanging out with you on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. In on The Jason Smith Show with My

733
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: with Mike Harmon. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody hanging out.

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Speaker 2: If this is the first.

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00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: Time you've ever hung out with us, you can check

736
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: check us out. Usually we're hanging out Saturday nights six

737
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: to eight pm Eastern. You can check Buck and Eye

738
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: hanging out every Saturday night together when Buck feels like

739
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: showing up to work.

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Speaker 2: That's a fifty to fifty Really.

741
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Speaker 5: Excuse you, we've missed the same amount of shows.

742
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Speaker 3: I mean, since I'm just saying you would admit that

743
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: maybe sometimes, you know, there's just sometimes a buck's got

744
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 3: a lot going on. He's got a lot, Like it's

745
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: just what happens when you're Buck rising, you know, it's

746
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: just it's it's a whole thing.

747
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

748
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Speaker 3: If you listen to us on Saturdays, you know that

749
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: every show ends the same with the single greatest game

750
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Speaker 3: show in the history of sports talk radio.

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Book, It is time for.

752
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Speaker 5: Word you Rather?

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Speaker 2: I think it's easy, guys, don't think too hard. Would

754
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: you rather? Bucket?

755
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: It's no good? Or face it?

756
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 8: All?

757
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: Right?

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00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 2: Lee, come in and give us some questions. We'll figure

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00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: out would we rather? This is very simple concept and

760
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: we'll go through some What do you got for us? Brother? Well,

761
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: it's funny you guys.

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Speaker 8: You know last time we all hung out together, I

763
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 8: think we were doing a Halloween edition of would you rather?

764
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 8: So now I have a Thanksgiving Day a little edition

765
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 8: of would you rather?

766
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Speaker 2: For the for the two of you's, how about this?

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Speaker 8: Would you rather have to hunt and gather all the

768
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Speaker 8: food you are eating for Thanksgiving? Or eat only McDonald's.

769
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Speaker 4: Oh, eat only McDonald's. I would die if I had

770
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Speaker 4: not my food.

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Speaker 5: He's kidding me. I haven't I have.

772
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Speaker 4: I haven't had to work harder than a trip to

773
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Speaker 4: the farmer's market to get a meal in thirty two

774
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Speaker 4: years of life.

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Speaker 5: Give me the Mickey D's.

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Speaker 3: One of my buddies. Just an avid, avid hunter. And

777
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: I always used to say so to be clear, you

778
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Speaker 3: dressing camo. You sit quietly for hours at a time,

779
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Speaker 3: You sit in a tree, stand far away from the

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00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: animal with the weapon that they don't have, and drench

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00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: yourself in their.

782
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Speaker 2: Urine, and you think you won. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't really understand it. Like, so, yeah, I'm in

784
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: on the McDonald's. I'll take the McDonald's all day, every day. Well,

785
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Speaker 3: I would never be able to hunt for my food either,

786
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: Like I would.

787
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: Just end up, I'd end up emaciating.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, turkey's easy game, but they're they're hard to They're

789
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 8: hard to clean and prepare, prepare, So i'd probably go

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00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 8: with the McDonald.

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00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: Oh no, if I got to clean it, i'm definitely out.

792
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm way to score. Yeah, that's actually the hardest part.

793
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: That's the word.

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00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: I'm out.

795
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm out. Guys.

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Speaker 8: Would you rather sit at the kids table or talk

797
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 8: politics at the adult stable?

798
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know.

799
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: I'd rather talk politics at the adults table. And here's why,

800
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: because I genuinely don't.

801
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: Care about politics.

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00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: So the most important thing that I'm gonna do is

803
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit there and I'm gonna stir everybody use

804
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter. I am just gonna no matter

805
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: what the position is, I will simply take the opposite

806
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: just to make sure that I fire up the entire room.

807
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: I will create just legendary arguments that will be member

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00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: for generations to come at them.

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: Like remember when Uncle Book hit Uncle Steve, Like, that's

810
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna do that all by sitting at the

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00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: adult table and just arguing politics.

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: I would also choose the adults table with politics. But

814
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: that's because and it's not because I'm you know, super

815
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: motivated to have my political thoughts known or to argue

816
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: the point. I just children make me deeply uncomfortable. I

817
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: don't know what to say to them. I don't know

818
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: how to talk to them. God knows. I don't want

819
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: to eat around them or have them eat around me.

820
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: I feel like they're messing.

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Speaker 8: No bang, you guys, would you rather miss the orders

822
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Speaker 8: and be late to Thanksgiving because you're at the Macy's

823
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 8: Day Parade or something equivalent, Or would you rather leave

824
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 8: early miss dessert because you're getting in line for Black

825
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 8: Friday deals?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's easy I'm getting in line for Black Friday deals.

827
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I am all over blackri I love Black Friday shopping.

828
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: And let me be clear, I don't need the deals.

829
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: I just love the chaos. I'm that guy like I

830
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: love the Christmas music.

831
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be out like in a Grench hoodie, be

832
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: out doing the whole thing like I want to be

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00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: in the chaos of it.

834
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: I missed the.

835
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: Good old days where people you know violently pushed each

836
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: other over to try and get a TV for half price.

837
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: Like I want the chaos a Black Friday. I love it.

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00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: I like Black Friday better than I like Nanks timming.

839
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm all in on that.

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Speaker 5: That's a dumb thing to say.

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00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 4: I think that the I've done the Macy's Day Parade before.

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00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: It's a good time.

843
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: And I don't really care that much about the Thanksgiving

844
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: food either.

845
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: I would be just as satisfied with a dirty water dogs.

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Speaker 2: I was also in the Macy's Day Parade once. Like

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00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: we're saying the same thing right now. I wasn't okay,

848
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: go ahead, was it?

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Speaker 5: I'm shut?

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00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 2: Guys?

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00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 8: Would you rather spend us smug a little jerk with

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00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 8: all his albums in the background.

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00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 5: Oh, I was also in the Macy's Day parade. Just

854
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 5: shut the hell up.

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00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Oh that's the level of Thanksgiving.

856
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 5: We haven't.

857
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: We don't have time for nother No, we don't. But

858
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving to you guys. Oh, you guys have done

859
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: all the hard work.

860
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: We really appreciate everybody at Fox letting us take the

861
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: reins for a night, for four glorious hours. Most important,

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: we appreciate all you guys that took the time to listen, keepstake,

863
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: don't move your radio station anywhere, come hang out with

864
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: us on a Saturday sometime. Thanks so much for listening

865
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: to Buck and Fits. We appreciate you. Have a great

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: and safe holiday