1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Russell Peters. On this episode of Culturally Canceled, 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: we have martial art greatness in the room. We have 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: a guy who started me back into jiu jitsu, Higan Mashadow, 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: and I now trained with his brother, Jean Jack Machado. 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: But Hega Mashadow was a force to be reckoned with 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: in the Brazilian jiu jitsu world. He is a very 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: legendary man. At the age of eighteen, he fought his 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: cousin Hicks and Gracie, and he gave him a hard 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: time and that's not something that you can take lightly. 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Hicks and Gracie is known as the best jiu jitsu 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: man ever. And we have the legendary actor, martial artist, producer, writer, director. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: My good friend and great grandfather, Michael J. I. White 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: is with us on this episode. We talked about everything 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: from him training with John Jones to making black Dynamite 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: to the outlaw Johnny Black Witch. In fact, he can. 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Mashadow and I are both in So please enjoy this episode. 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: If you're into the arts of any kind, you're gonna 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: dig it. Even if you're not into the arts, check 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: it out. If you get bored, turn it off. It's 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: not my fault. Hey, welcome to culturally canceled. It's my show. 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: It's Russell Peters Um. I have with me today to 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: martial arts legends. We have Michael G. I White, as 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: you may know from his movie world career and his 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: actual martial arts career. And we have the legendary jiu 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: jitsu Mastro Hegan Mashadow. What's up? Hegan? What's up? What 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: a pleasure? And we have Mike. Mike, what didn't you 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: train under Heagan for a minute? Yes, of course, of course, 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: only the best. Did you you rolled with him? Did 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: he do his pressure shut on you? He didn't kill me? Listen? 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: First of all, Yeah, when I rolled with him, he 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: doesn't even use fucking like he doesn't use like the 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: basic techniques when just for a little his tree in 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: case he's wondering. I trained with Higan's brother, Jean Jack, 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and I also trained with Higan. I've trained with I've 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: been fortunate enough to train with a lot of the 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: best guys out there, Hagan, Jean Jack, Holf, Hanzo Um, 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: Caesar Caesar Hicks, and I got to do a seminar 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: with Brown, Leo Estima Um, lots of Nick Gregory. Otis Gregory. 39 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: You know what's your name is? Nick? And uh So 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I've been a very very lucky guy, and I think 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that's something that being in the entertainment business has afforded me. 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: He is getting to train with the best of the best. 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Now Michael and I have never trained together, but I 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: think that's because he's afraid of me. But that's neither 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: here nor there. Will just be friends instead. Yeah, keep 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: it where it is. I'm good with it. Take him 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: a shot, though. I have a story for Michael J. White. 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: I remember I was in Brazil like um and always 49 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: seated from my uncle Carlos Greasy. I have a couple 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: of his kids and reward in a movie. But the 51 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: movie we watch was your movie, Oh with Movies, which 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: was uh Spaum. Yeah, remember you want to go visit 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: at that point, no diz in Brazil because the movie 54 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: came at ninety eight nine. Remember Carl's Grace talking about 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: they're going to burn his face. He got his face 56 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: burning and stuff. Remember watching with Carl's Grace Helium and 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: have what the daughter killed? And Grace watched your movie 58 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: with comment about Carle's grace knew all the same. Probably 59 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: he watched a couple of times. Yeah, he's a funny 60 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: I remember because the cows grace getting very old. He 61 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: leaves in my house at the time I went to 62 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: visit my mother Brazil. I brought like some American guys 63 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: at the time to visit him, but his members was 64 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: not very sharp. Did he watched a lot of TV? Yeah? 65 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: He remembered they showing your movie like on the evening 66 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: and college was watching the movie comment about the movie. Yeah, 67 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: he remember, like, man, that was Michael J. White movie. Wow, 68 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: that's like that that was something as wild, right, You 69 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: don't realize Yeah, I don't think you realized the reach 70 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: you have until somebody else from a completely another world 71 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: tells you, I'm always going away by that. It's it's 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even it wouldn't even register that that person 73 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: would know anything about me, that that would That happened 74 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: to me so many times. I remember a long time ago, 75 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I was at Justin's, you know in the New York 76 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: or Atlanta. In New York. It was it just had opened. 77 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: That was Puffy's restaurant. Yeah, it was like, uh, it 78 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: was a bunch of folks in there, and next thing 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I know that I see Dr J. You know, greatest 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: basketball players. I mean Dr J is walking through the 81 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: crowd and I was like, oh man, that's Dr J. 82 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, let me get out of his way. 83 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: And every time everywhere I moved, I seemed like I 84 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: was still in this damn way. And I was like, ship, 85 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: how am I still in this way? I'm trying to 86 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: get out of his way? And he was coming to 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: talk to me, and he goes, hey, man, you know, 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: I want to say I'm a fan. I've seen. I 89 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: was like, you're you're not supposed to be be able 90 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: to see me? Like, how do you know that I exist? 91 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: It freaked me out. I'm like, but then I'm like, 92 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Dr Jay, watch watch me in a movie? 93 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, yeah, but I'm like it freaked 94 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: me out. It's still that still happens. Like that still 95 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: happens where I go. You know, I saw the whispers 96 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: going into the you know, you know they were going 97 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: to perform, and I'm like, it is the whisper. Yeah, 98 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: hey Mike, I'm like, what, how the hell do you know? Me? 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: I grow up with these like looking at these people 100 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: that's bigger than life, and I'm like, but they can 101 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: see me back the same ship me out. I was 102 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: getting on a flight once and I saw the twins 103 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: from the Whispers, and because I'm at the airport. At 104 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the airport, I can't process it quick enough. I know them? 105 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: What do I know them from? I go, hey, uh, 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I know your face because we're we're in a band. 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: I go, what band? It goes? It's probably a band 108 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: you have never heard of. And I'm like, because they 109 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: just looked at me as some Indian guy, like what 110 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: what's the name the band? It goes the whispers? Are 111 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you kidding me? I pull up my iPod and show 112 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: them all my whispers. Yeah, I never heard of you, Like, 113 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: you're crazy. The whispers that happened with me with Russell 114 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Hitchcock from air Supply. I was like, yeah, like I'm 115 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know you know on the plane is like, no, 116 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: I know all that stuff. But but incidentally, that was 117 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: kind of funny when Russell and I reconnected. It was 118 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of like that because I, you know, I didn't 119 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: know I knew him from like decades ago. Yeah, and 120 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: then you tell the story much better than me. So 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm at the comedy store, Um, it's about eleven years ago. Now, Actually, um, 122 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: I do a show. I'm hanging out. Michael comes up 123 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to me, goes, hey, man, I'm a big fan. I 124 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: take a picture with you. I go. I look at 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: him like as I go, Man, get the funk out 126 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: of here. It's like, what I go, What do you 127 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: mean you're a big fan? He goes, I'm a big fan. 128 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I love your stuff. I go, are you kidding me? 129 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: He goes, what I go? Mike, we met before, where 130 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: like we hung out for like two days straight in Toronto. 131 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: What do you mean? I go, you were promot I 132 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: think you were promoting Tyson. Don't know. I was down 133 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: there shooting shooting. Um uh that damn Sagon movie. Okay, yeah, yeah, 134 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: the one, the Sitan movie. Another one you're talking about 135 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: exit wounds. But I was hanging out with this guy 136 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: to two days, right, and so we're hanging out. We 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: were like kicking in and whatever. And I just remember, like, 138 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was hanging back with Drew and this 139 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: other guy. Yeah, he goes, yeah, I was. I I 140 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: was with you two days. I went to the radio 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: station with you while you were doing interviews, and they 142 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: put me on with you because they knew me there 143 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I was with this guy Drew 144 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: and the other guy some other guy goes, yeah, I'm 145 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the fucking other guy. So I had no idea that 146 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: was him all man, And that was like two thousand. Yeah. Yeah. 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, because I've been listening to his 148 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: tapes and I'm like, hey, man, you know, I've been 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: following you and whatever. He's like, Mike, I'm like, I 150 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: remember back then too. You were talking about fighting and stuff, 151 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: and you're talking about were I was. I was asking 152 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: about Tyson and stuff and the movie because you've done 153 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: when when when was tights in the movie? Done? Okay? Yeah? Yeah? 154 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, weren't you too big to be 155 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: playing Mike Tyson? I was taller. I mean, you know 156 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: the thing is I had made sure that well, you 157 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: have to make sure that the finding people I fought 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: was taller and thinner. So I looked shorter and yeah, yeah, 159 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: did you get diesel for that? I mean, you're already 160 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: in shape all the time, but did you get whiter 161 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: for that? Well? I did, like the opposite of the 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: cut diet, because at the time Mike was not that 163 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: he was pudgy, Mike then, right, so I had to 164 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: get that look. So that means I had to really 165 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: gain weight to fill out, right, And so I was 166 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: basically eating cheesecake and drinking gatorade like crazy. So that's 167 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: what I'm doing wrong. Yeah, well, you know, because I 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: was leaner and I had to puff up, you know. Uh. 169 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Of course when Mike came out, he was leaning. You know, 170 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: it was incredibly Yeah, he was shredded. When that was 171 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: the most shredded I've ever seen Mike in my life. 172 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: And there was the meanest he had looked. Remember that. Yeah, 173 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: Peter mcneilily, Yeah, I took heagin to meet Mike a 174 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Yeah. He's a cool guy. Man, 175 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: what a nice guy. I said, Mike, this is he 176 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: give mashadow. He's basically the Mike Tyson of the jiu 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: jitsu world. And Might just looked at him, uh huh, 178 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Like I was like, oh, I don't he can don't 179 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: choke out Mike and will be really fucked up. But 180 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to get hit by I'm sill gonna 181 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: have to choke u. He's amazing guy. Yeah, what's your 182 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: relationship with Mike? Have one? No? No, we met several times, 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: like after the movie. Well we talked after them your 184 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: fourth Green, right you were four Green? No East New York, East, 185 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: New York. Oh that's right by him. He yeah. So um, 186 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: you know one of my best friends and Frankie Lyles, 187 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: he was super mittlewate. Remember Frankie Lylesh So uh he 188 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: put Mike and I in touch when Mike was incarcerated 189 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: and we talked about frank was a really good fighter. 190 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you know, uh, there were times where 191 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: we even Frankie and I set up the whole thing 192 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: with Mike and uh and Bob Sapp because I was training. 193 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: I was I was training Bob Sapp pork. What a 194 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: big diesel guy with no chin at all? Oh he 195 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: actually like it's here. It's a it's a weird thing. 196 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: Isn't like the goats that you can scare? No? No, no, no, 197 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying like we there's times where if if 198 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Bob wanted to really make fighting his main thing, it's 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: frightening because he's a wall of the healing. He would 200 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: not that guy would warm up with four injred pounds 201 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: bench pressing. He was unusually strong and he was pretty 202 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: damn fast for his size. So we would work with 203 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: him and then we get him doing things right. It 204 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: was frightening. Uh just the that's the thing that people 205 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: didn't know is the his Bob's managers, that is she 206 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: and know they had him representing twenty different products. The 207 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: guy was constantly just you know, had the he was 208 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: the dancing panda. He was. He was he was doing 209 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: this commercial that he had no time to train, and 210 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: he was every time that you saw him fight, it 211 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: was like he had he had no three we training, 212 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: not even not even not even they were just making 213 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: money off of his. Dude. I'm like, I used to 214 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: tell him, like, Bob, will you explain just so people 215 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: are not piste off at you that everybody you're fighting 216 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: people who all they do is fight, and you're you know, 217 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: even to try to get him to train for two 218 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: weeks was very difficult. And that wasn't him, that was people. 219 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: It wasn't It was impossible to do anything else. But 220 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: I tell you something, those rare times where he had 221 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: like a month off and we trent, that's when he 222 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: fought people like Musashi, That's when he fought people like 223 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: uh yeah, um, that's when he that's when he fought 224 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: like um uh Annesto Hoost, which you thought I thought 225 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: he was going to kill him. He was Anesta was 226 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna kill him. Well was a beast, but Bob won twice. Yeah, 227 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: but Ernesta was the first. Um what's his name who's 228 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: still fighting in the UFC A Dutch guy as well. 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: Um um, you know I'm talking about the big dude. Yeah, yeah, 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: heavyweight guy. I'm friends with him too. That's even worse. Yeah, 231 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: that's what. Doesn't you treat your friends over I always 232 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: used to get Ernesto and Overream mixed up with each 233 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: other because they looked similar. Look nothing, that's you know 234 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: there was they both had greasy jerrick. Can somebody pop 235 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: up two pictures of these people that come on? I 236 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: think it did. Some weird names, is what it was. No, 237 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: listen and get the gloves and fighting mine he had 238 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: he had a younger brother Underream that that he fought 239 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: just I mean he looked very similar Valentine Valentine or 240 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: something like that. Oh, I thought you meant there was 241 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: a guy named Underream. He was you know, he had 242 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: he was over Ream's younger brother Underream. Yeah, but but 243 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: where the hell were we a second ago Ernesto fighting Bob. Yeah, 244 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: but you know, like think about Bob for Ernesto he 245 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: fought um uh, wasn't the twin no Gara? Yeah right right? Yeah. Yeah, 246 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: that's when Bob was training a bit and had no skills. 247 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: So if he later on when he development skills and 248 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: he if he would have just trained, it would have 249 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: been kind of crazy. But anyway, we were behind frank 250 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: and I we're behind that whole thing with Bob and 251 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. When Bob when Mike Tyson, yeah, oh yeah, 252 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: when he when he called Mike a bitch or something. 253 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: My my job was telling the security people that this 254 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: is this is kind of planned, and let Mike get 255 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: up in the ring. And Frankie was you know, we're 256 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: like right in the background. If you ever want to 257 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: look at that, I'm gonna watch that again. Yeah. So yeah, 258 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Bob was like, Mike's a pussy or a bit. He's 259 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: told him something. I was like, I don't think, I 260 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: don't think he said that, but he did. He said something, 261 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: or he's a punk. He just but you could see 262 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: he was smiling when he said it because it was 263 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: like he didn't want to do it. I no, Bob, 264 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't swear. Bob is. Bob is is really unique. 265 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard that guy swear. He's got traps the 266 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: size of most guys biceps. Yeah, big dude, that dude. 267 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Did you start off as a football player? Yeah yeah, 268 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean we we did. We did blood and bone together, right. 269 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: I did the fight scene with him. I remember one 270 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: time I told him, don't hold back. I want you 271 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: to throw that punch as fast as you can't. I'm 272 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: just gonna move, don't worry. My head's not gonna be there. 273 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: One of the times where I had like a brain 274 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: fart and I wasn't quite sure of the chore choreography 275 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: because I was like doing too too much, and I'm like, 276 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: I go somewhere else for a second. I'm like, oh, ship, 277 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Bob's about the punch at you, and I just move 278 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: and I duck in his hand. Just I heard the 279 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: wind of school just right over my head, and I 280 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: was like, cut, cut, let's let's stop right now. I 281 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: gotta I could. I could have died just now, you know. 282 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: But that dude was unusual league. Where does he live Seattle? 283 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: But Seattle? It was like a Times Japan I was 284 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: gonna say it was a big superstar in Japan. We 285 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: couldn't We couldn't be anywhere for for over twenty minutes 286 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: in Japan because he would be mobbed if we anywhere 287 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: for over twenty minutes. Forget it. We can't get to 288 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: the car because it'll just it's like it looks like 289 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: a Godzilla movie. Well he was the size of Godzilla, 290 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: all fairness. Ye, you never fought in any of the 291 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: M m A competitions. I did some valley to do 292 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: on the past. I did maybe close to nine fights. 293 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I one, I wonder fight all nine? All nine. Don't 294 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: you sit here and brag with me? He get a shadow? 295 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Jean Jack fought right, Jean Jack did the fight. Uh 296 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: he remember you stopped when he fought Frank Trigg, Right, 297 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: he got the cut, didn't stop the blood. Yeah, And 298 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Jean Jack was still mad about that to this day 299 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: because that's the last time I ever asked my brothers 300 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: to in the corner the little blood and I saw 301 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: the fight it was. And that's funny because I'm friends 302 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: with Frank Trigg and the first time I met him, 303 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I go, hey, man, you you kicked my teacher in 304 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: the head, and he goes, who's your teacher? I goes, 305 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Jean Jack goes, great, guy, M I didn't know Frank 306 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Trigg was half black? Did you know that? That makes sense? Now? 307 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: Now I'll tell you, like she he's Frank is in 308 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: my wife's movie. She kicks him in the head in 309 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the movie, and she always says, is that guy isn't 310 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: he seems black to me? Like I was, like, I 311 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: don't know, yeh, he's half black. I thought he was 312 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: a dark Italian or something. That's what I thought. He 313 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: was one of those two. Yeah, so that thank you, 314 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: Like that makes sense. When he told me, I go, no, 315 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: he goes, what fucking mean no? I go, I didn't know, 316 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: he goes, I did not know. I go, your dicks 317 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: and your pants. First of all, I'm not gonna you know, well, 318 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: it's it's usually somebody's half black. There's something, there's a towel, 319 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: there's a little bit more. Yeah, they look a little 320 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: more on the black side. Yeah, he was more Diesel 321 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: in the black way, And I mean, like they were 322 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: very similar, like is he isn't he? You know? Yeah? 323 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: What's Vin Diesel's real name? Eddie Google? Vin Diesel's real name. 324 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not even Mark Vincent? Is that what it is? 325 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: Are you friends with n? Are your friends? No? Not 326 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: at all. I just have a pension for like what 327 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: Mark st Clair. I'm afraid Vince in there somewhere. I 328 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: believe it's Mark Vincent st Clair. Well yeah, but it's 329 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: uh because I know I have friends who we're New 330 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: York Dorman with him, right, so and and it makes 331 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: sense that if his name is Mark Vincent, you know 332 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: there's there's where the ven you trained him? How long? No, 333 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: my matth he briefly the first time in matth here. 334 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: I was a friend of Paul Walker, right. Paul Wark 335 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: invited me to go to Puerto Rico. But they were 336 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I think was Fast and Furious five. Yeah. His best 337 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: friend is a guy named Valentino Ve. Valentino introduced me 338 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: to if we hang out a little bit in Peru 339 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Rica and he called me two to some TV show 340 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: he was doing. I stopped by. After this, he called 341 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: me back for Fast and Furious seven to help him 342 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: to do a fight in grappling between him and Jay 343 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: z Stat And that's when they met the first time. 344 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Jays State and um. After these, he invited me for 345 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: some events and parties, but we never actually have a 346 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: chance to hang out. We're trained him maybe a couple 347 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: of times, but not like you. 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And I 445 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you want to tell people this or not, 446 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: but it's it's your personal life. But this ship freaked 447 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: me out. We've been friends a long time and I 448 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: just to find this out recently was like, what the 449 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: good fuck Michael? Now? I know Michael as a married 450 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: man to to the very beautiful Gillian White, who's an 451 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: amazing woman. His like you know when you see a cup, 452 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: when you go, that's the match, that is the that 453 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: is the match, right, that is his person. I feel 454 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: I on my person now as well, which I'm very 455 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: fortunate to say. And I and I congratulations. I had 456 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: to find out for somebody else. Thank you. Well, you know, 457 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: I you know, here's the thing. It was. You know, 458 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: I've I've I've been engaged five times. I mean I've 459 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: taken my shots at it, um and each time I 460 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: get I know exactly why I got engaged. Some one 461 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: time I didn't get engaged. It was just kind of 462 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: because um and then you know, so for whatever reasons. 463 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: But I found my persons. And now when I when 464 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: I when I look at Michael and Gillian, I go, 465 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: that's that's his person. And I can look at my 466 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: girling quite easily, So that's my person because I now 467 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: know what that feels like. And hegan, he's met many 468 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: persons in his life, but Michael. So I knew Michael 469 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: as a married Amanda Gillian, and I knew it was 470 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: two younger daughters. Um, the very smart kids by the way. 471 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: And they're young, they're what ten and eleven or something 472 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: or thirteen, but they're like even when I would see 473 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: them when they were like eight nine years old, I 474 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: was like, they looked like they were thirteen and fourteen already. 475 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got two big parents. And so it's like, 476 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: how are your kids? And he goes, uh, which ones? 477 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: And I go, well, I only you only have two 478 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: that I know. If I go, I know you have 479 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: a son, you go, no, I don't I have more 480 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: than one son. Yeah. I started a little early, way early. 481 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna very early, very early, have three grown sons. 482 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: No way, I didn't know that three. How was the oldest? Yea. 483 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: And so it's like, I'm not gonna say your age. Well, 484 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: we can use deductive we can use deductive reasoning. Yes, yeah, yeah, 485 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: it's very very easy you know, so you know. Yeah, 486 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: so anyway, three three grown sons and three uh well 487 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: now a grown daughter because the las nineteen. Wow, she's nineteen. 488 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: So you've got nineteen thirteen, twelve and so and then 489 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: three guys that are wailed. But now I want to 490 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: can you get the middle one? The middle one, the 491 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: middle one turned thirty? Yes? Can? I just gotta get 492 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: to this, Mike, because this is fucking incredible to me, 493 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: and this like, these are things that people don't realize, Like, 494 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: like people know, Mike's a badass, he's a he's a 495 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: martial artist, he's a great actor, he's a great friend. Um, 496 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: there's things about you the people don't know. First of one, 497 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Mike is actually a very proficient DJ. When he comes 498 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: to my house, Yeah, he gets on my turntables and 499 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: he gets busy. It's not like he's meandering his way 500 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: through it. He knows what he's doing. He mixes on 501 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: beat and he he knows music. He's got a very 502 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: a good depth of knowledge of music. And and it 503 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: always bugs me out because when he's playing, I'm like, 504 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: whook's playing that? Right? Now're going to go? Oh ship 505 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: that ship? I would play like he plays house music, 506 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: because to find people who really know house music, like 507 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: the good house music is a very rare thing. Especially 508 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: out here in Toronto. We know house music because we're 509 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: eight hours away from Chicago and eight hours away from 510 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: New York's. We would get it all fresh as it 511 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: was happening. And and then Mike got on my turntables 512 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: when I started playing house music, and who's playing that? Dad? 513 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: Who knows that? And I walk over to Mike playing 514 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: house music. When I first saw you at the comedy store, 515 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: he was he wasn't standing up, he was djaying over there. Yeah, 516 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: he was djaying. And this and this dude for for 517 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: so many years has given me so many cool points 518 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: because I will take his mixes every damn movie and 519 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: television show I work on. I bring Russell's mixes to 520 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the the the makeup and everybody's grooving and so that, 521 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: and I get all this credit. Oh my god, I'm like, 522 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, Russell pet you meet a comedian. This is 523 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I gotta show the picture because he's got a little 524 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: cartoon of his DJ and stuff. I'm like, believe it 525 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: or not, No, this is it. It's crazy. I listen. 526 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: I know his mixes by heart. Now I know every 527 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: like probably you've probably given me twenty freaking mixes. Yeah, 528 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: I give you a lot of mixes. You're I think 529 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: one of the only people who I only share my mixes, 530 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: maybe five or six people. But like, no, he and 531 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I are very similar. We are facilitators. I get my 532 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: my joy out of giving, and he's the same way 533 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm not used to getting. And and so I'm like 534 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: over the moon when someone gives me something, because if 535 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: I will trick you into not giving me anything, you 536 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: want someone No, No, I'm good. You know that's I'm 537 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: I get. You know, I'm gonna give her. But like 538 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: what this guy, you know, I see, he does the 539 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: same thing. He makes sure his people in his orbit 540 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: are taken care of, same way. And so we gotta fight. 541 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: It's like more so like the outdode helping each other. 542 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: But like it's um but yeah it but that's something 543 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: I really value a whole lot, just that musical like 544 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: not knowledge. And you know I always said, even before 545 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: I found my you know, Gillian, my you know a 546 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: person person, I always said, the person that understands my playlist, 547 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: more than likely we will be we connect. That's exactly 548 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: what I got Yeah, that's that. Isn't that a trip? 549 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: It's weird. This guy knows Like people go, how the 550 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: hell do you know this band and this you know 551 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: rock band, Like just like what are you a sixty 552 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: year old white lady? Like he knows the same music 553 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: from that to house to deep hip. Like I couldn't 554 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: stump him. It was like we knew the same thing. 555 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: But there's a part of our personalities that are all 556 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: of that and uh that that we're multi facinating. Where 557 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: are our minds are open to a lot of things. 558 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: I think that that's explained by your your broad spectrum 559 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: of fighting techniques that you learned and mastered and you know, 560 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: think about his uh comedy. It's it's kind of like 561 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: like when I grew up. I remember when I had 562 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: a sixteenth birthday. I had a big birthday. Your son 563 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: then that was very clever. That was very clever. That 564 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: was very clever. Well you know he was born there 565 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: you go. Now, now, if anybody just starts counting up, 566 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: they kind of know. See. But but in in that 567 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: that sixteenth birthday party, I had all my friends and 568 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: there were five factions of people who just separated themselves 569 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: and was like what the hell do you have in 570 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: common with those people? And so it's kind of like, well, 571 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: with Russell, that's what he's like because he he's got 572 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: every he's got such a a variety of of fans 573 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: from all over the world. It's like and it's why, 574 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: but they are united through him, and and it's in 575 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Your parties look like that too. Yeah, I like your 576 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: part Your parties look like that. I like to put 577 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: people together that would never normally be together, but then 578 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: you know that they have something in common. Yeah, like 579 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Michael talk to that guy like he'll you know, Russell's party. 580 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Just like there's a group of transverse sites over there. 581 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: There's there's some you know, mobsters, and there's some there's 582 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: there's some there's some motorcycle gang and guys you know, 583 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: all with Muppet hands, you know, And so do all 584 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: these people have in common? And then it's Russell because 585 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: he's a little bit of everything. It's funny because their 586 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: first time I Matt Russell, and no clue who I was. 587 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't have no idea about the 588 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: Rainbow Room. Yeah, check check zero, check zero. I want 589 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: you to meet Russell and this and that, and he 590 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: can start out to me. He said, I have a 591 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: nickname in Brazil, Indugeness. I trained you big Brazil Injugis 592 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: said what's your nickname? And he said the vodka ka Gada. 593 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: I started laughing. I couldn't stop laughing, said Maine. I 594 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: was sure that's it was your nickname. Yeah, they call 595 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: me Vacaka Gada, which he goes ship like a cow 596 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: everywhere they go, they ship. That was in Portuguese. It's 597 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: not like I love him right away. We exchanged number. 598 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: We're talking about to train together. The next day, I 599 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: go to my brothers in Jacques's house. His wife came 600 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: to me and said, he you have to see this 601 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: stand up comedee. He's so funny, was Russell Peter. Yeah, 602 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: didn't know he's that big because you were there watching 603 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: the two. But have hundreds and hundreds of people in 604 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: his show like sold out and said, man, these guys amazing. Yeah, 605 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: I remember we start talking about training. Yeah, he leaves 606 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: close to Jack right at the time. Yeah, I was 607 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: in Malibu and his school was in Malibu and I 608 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't know that. And that's where you came and trained me. 609 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: The first time was in Malibu. It was you, me 610 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: and Um, that Mexican kid who was an actor who 611 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: was on the Disney Show. I think what was his name, 612 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: good kid. We only trained that one time with you 613 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: die yea Diego Bonetta, that was his name. Nice kid too. 614 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I saw him out a couple of times, and he's 615 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: doing really good. He's doing I don't think he's gonna 616 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: have any problems. So Michael, UM, can we get back 617 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: to what shocks me about you? Because you're a very 618 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: young looking You're a very youthful man. Uh yeah, so 619 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: can I can? I just put this out there because 620 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: it's fucking it's incredible. You're not gonna let it go anywhere. 621 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let it go. I'm not gonna let 622 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: it go because I don't want to have this information 623 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: welling up inside me because I think it's incredible. Michael 624 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: has six kids, right, yeah, six children that I know 625 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: of that he knows of that he's claiming. And how 626 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: many grandkids? Four? Four grandkids? Not go and give us 627 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: the cherry on top, Mike, I'll say it this way. 628 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: The second oldest grandkid has a two year old daughter. 629 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: He incredible. I know that's amazing. That's great. Yeah, yeah, 630 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: I need another term for what that is not. I 631 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 1: can't I can't hear that. What if you hear grandfather squared? Yeah, 632 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: grandpa squared? You know what does your granddaughter call you? No, 633 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: she's like she actually just looks at me like that, 634 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: like I got pictures of it, and she's just does that. 635 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: But your grandkids do they call your grandpa? Yeah? They do, 636 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: against my wishes if you are there, grandpa, yeah, yeah, 637 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: it's a little weird. Like put it this way, Michael 638 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: was on Mori. It would be like you are not 639 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: the grandfather, and yeah, it stopped the entire restaurant. A 640 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: year long time ago, I was at daily Grill with 641 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: my son and his wife and you know, his his 642 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: kids kids, and so basically my son basically he kind 643 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: of you see, I my my beer doesn't come in 644 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: that that, you know, but my son has the Teddy 645 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: Pendergrass right beer. Yeah? Yeah, so uh and he sports 646 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: it well. And so he looks a little older than 647 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: he is your old oldest son. And so this is 648 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: the sixty year old his his his his wife says, 649 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: you know innocently, you know, let let the baby, you know, 650 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: give the baby to his grandfather. And somebody overheard that. 651 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: It seems like the whole restaurant overheard that and it 652 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: was just like like a needle. Yeah what what did 653 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: you say? Wait a minute, that's his great like that's 654 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: his father, and like yeah, just like every you know, everybody. 655 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: You could continue to eat like, but it just stopped 656 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: the whole restaurant because again, that's that's yea. But here's 657 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: the thing. You're not a deadbeat dad. So it's not 658 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: like eighteen years ago, no more than that. It has 659 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: to be eighteen years more than more than eighteen years ago, 660 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: so that I looked even younger. Yeah, so not that 661 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: you look any older than you did in the five 662 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: years thirty years ago you I mean, well, it's it's 663 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: the you know, virgin blood. Basically you drink the slood 664 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: of virgins, the sacrifice thing. But we can get into 665 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: that another time. Yeah. Well now that Epstein islands closed, 666 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, well you know your sacrificial days of mind. 667 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: Do you ever see me in a mirror? Huh? You 668 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: never saw that? H Yeah, there's a picture of you 669 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: in my house that's getting older and you're not well 670 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: you know what it is. I mean not to sound corny, 671 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: but I will sound corny. It's about being freaking happy. 672 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: I was, man, you know, I had a rough coming up, 673 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: and I used to look a little a lot older 674 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: than people thought I was, you know. And so there's 675 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: people who think I'm Biel's above because those people when 676 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: I was fifteen, people thought I was in my twenties. 677 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: But you look like a grown ass man when you 678 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: post those videos of you and right, yeah, because I 679 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: used to fight against you know, men, like heavyweight men 680 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: when I was fifteen. Right, so those people thought I 681 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: was twenties. So those people who thought I was mid 682 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: twenties in how do you think they think I am? Now? Right, 683 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: they think I'm Satan because they go, wait a minute, 684 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: that guy's got to be mid sixties or something. But 685 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not listen, I know I'm not. So 686 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: you say, um, according to his claims, I'm not. You 687 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: gotta be reckless at a young age. I honestly, there 688 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: was no more effort than that time when I was fifteen. 689 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: That's all. That's all it takes. So I think you 690 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: probably have done that. No, my I mean, my lady 691 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: is a couple of years younger than me, and she's 692 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: got a twenty eight year old and twenty six year old, 693 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: and when they're all together, people don't know that their 694 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: mother and daughter. They think that's just a couple of 695 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: bunch of friends. But there's but but honestly, there's a 696 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: lot more effort on her part than it was for 697 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: my part. Really, a whole lot more effort. What do 698 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: you mean they have to give birth? Oh yeah, yeah, 699 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: basically I just need you know. Yeah, somebody said, somebody said, uh, 700 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe a guy comes so quick and he goes, well, 701 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: it takes you nine months to push out a baby. 702 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Takes me nine seconds. You know. I'm glad we talked 703 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, that's those those we need, those little 704 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: awkward moments. Those are my favorite because I know you. 705 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: I know you as my friend first, I obviously I 706 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of your work and not not not 707 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: just because you're my friend, but I mean, Black Dynamite 708 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: is always going to be in my top five films 709 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: of all time, and that is up there with Airplane 710 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: and Midnight Run and Good Fellows in Casino. So it's 711 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: in my top five. It's not number five, it's in 712 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: my top five that I fucking, I fucking love them 713 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: movie and I always advise anybody you never saw Black Dynamite, 714 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: well you need to watch it. Because you watched it, 715 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: you probably missed a lot of the jokes though, because 716 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: you know Egan nothing nothing personal, but you started with R. 717 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah it was, it was. It was a hard film 718 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: for him. He spells hard with an R though, Yeah, 719 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's it's hard. Actually, I'm surprised I don't 720 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: get called hustle by my Brazilian friends. That wouldn't be 721 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: too bad, really, yeah, I mean that's a good name 722 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: to have. What you've never called me? Hustle, Hustle, p hustle. 723 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that's your name. Yeah, right, Hustle. It's kind of 724 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: like two ages that kind of canna lean into this 725 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: because when they say Carlos, they don't say carls like holos. Yeah, 726 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a Now we do like 727 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: a scratch like Randy. We say, example, car over here 728 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: in Brazil is two rs. Oh, like c A R R, 729 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: So it's like Spanish but with an extra R. But 730 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: then the rs aren't pronounced. But the way we do 731 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: is stretched. They are like I've had a few car 732 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: homes in my life in base that's how you say 733 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: pig and do you know do you know he voiced 734 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: the yeah, never back down? Three? That big the big 735 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: guy I fight. I bought that movie. He was the 736 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: voice of it. Oh really, he was a voice of 737 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: that character. Hilarious that that guy is Australian. Hilarious he did. 738 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: That's the one where you were in jail and then 739 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: you keep that's a giant guy. That's when where you 740 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: fought him, like in an arena, but not in the arena, 741 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: like in the hallway to the arena. Nate Nate, Nate Jones, Jones. 742 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: He was a big son of a dude. Man, there's 743 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: a picture of me next to him. I look like 744 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. Yeah, that was like regardless of Hart, but 745 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: it's the strongest he was. Like I tried to arm 746 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: bar him and I had to be like, yo, man, 747 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: let me freak an arm bar you. It's a movie. 748 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: Was he a fighter too? No, he's just one of 749 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: the He was one of the strongest men in the world. 750 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'll do it. Yeah. I mean at that 751 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: height that he had like what eight No, he's like 752 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: close to seven feet, Like he's like just about seven 753 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: ft like he had like the yeah, yeah, that that 754 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: lift record bench fresh wrecking and and um military press 755 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: with arms that long. So well his arms got that 756 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: long from lifting on a damn heavy weight. No, actually, 757 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: I'll make your arm shorter. Really think what I thought, 758 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: it would stretch your arms out everyone everything. I thought, 759 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,959 Speaker 1: that's because their muscles pulled him up. But I mean, yeah, yeah, 760 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: when you're like this and you're short, right, you do 761 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: a bench presss like you're done that, guys like rack 762 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: like So that is unusually. No, the true story, true 763 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: story flights coming. Yeah, well you know let it. You 764 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: know he's gotta run away down here. So the true 765 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: story that dude. When we were rehearsing, he you know 766 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: Nate Nathan, he kind of would go off on tangents 767 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: and he started telling us a story about when he 768 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: was a bodyguard and one tactic he had to keep 769 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: his clients safe is that he lifted the client away 770 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: from the guys who were trying to attack him. And 771 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: while he was telling the story, he used me and 772 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: he picked me up and kept explaining the story. Nobody 773 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: under my arms, like I was five, and he held 774 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: me up while he continued the story. Nobody was listening 775 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: to him because everybody was like yeah, and I'm like, 776 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: do you see this? The guys are come away. I 777 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: was like, I can't do that to my daughter, you know, 778 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was unusual. That kind of strength was 779 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: just frightening. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, and if only if 780 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: he could fight to be more dangerous. Do you need 781 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: to know how to fight when you're that strong or 782 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: do you uh, you're that strong, you're that physically large. 783 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 1: First of all, nobody's gonna take a shot at you. Well, 784 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: you gotta jump up the hit the due. Yeah. I 785 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 1: mean like basketball players are a completely different animal because 786 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: they're tall and thin and nine times I ten don't 787 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: know how to fight. They fight really bad. Oh my god. 788 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: I get embarrassed when I watched I just laughing. It's 789 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: like just kind of watching certain folks dance. Yeah, it's 790 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: like slam. It's like these It's horrible. I get so 791 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: frustrated with it. Yeah, I'm like, come on, man, and 792 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: football fights, I've got so much equipment on it doesn't 793 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: really make a difference. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's the 794 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: snatching the face mask and that should irritates me. Yeah. 795 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: Tough guy. Yeah, there are some tough guys in it. 796 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: Let's not get it twisted. You know, of course you 797 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: gotta be tough to play football. Yeah, I guess, so 798 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: you get Come on now, listen. I always I always 799 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: liking it to Australian Australian Worlds football. Well that ship 800 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: is insane where they're stepping on each other's head and 801 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: stuff with no equipment on. I couldn't have done it. 802 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: And I had the wrong attitude. Yeah, we're to fight competitive. Yeah, 803 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: that's why I don't don't play basketball. Now you're like me, 804 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: we're going up every time. I I yeah, you get frustrated. 805 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm the same. I would hit a guy, Bob, I 806 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want folk because they would. 807 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: They would grab a rebound and elbow you. I'm like, uh, 808 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: that's that's my arena. You just elbowed me. If I 809 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: looked up basketball, elbowing is not part of it. Well, 810 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: i'll give you one back. And I used to think that, 811 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: like what was happening. I realized late, real late that 812 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: it was me because I remember being out here at 813 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: watching basketball game and uh, you know, and in Marina, 814 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, and so I watched people like getting an 815 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: argument and he was like, yeah, well, fun all that 816 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: type of stuff, right, and and then then I'm like, oh, 817 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: he's about to hit him. Then they run down the 818 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: other side and it was like all good, and he's 819 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 1: still checking the guy. I'm like, how do you do that? 820 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: The guy who just got in your face, who elbowed you, 821 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: it's checking. How would you not hit him back? And 822 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: so I realized, oh, all the while that was just me. No, 823 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, that's that's a fighter's mentality because I you 824 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: and I both don't like orts. You can play, you 825 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: cannot play fight sports. Yeah, and now her Brazilian. I 826 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: would have imagined, I don't know this to be true 827 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: or faults, but I would imagine you would have played 828 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: soccer growing up. No, actually, uh the sports I did? 829 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 1: They did, uh water polo? Yeah, I did some sports, 830 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: go handball. Yeah, it's not a yeah, we just we 831 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: just imagined him playing waterfolo. That's a mistake. He didn't 832 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: look like that when he was playing water polo, So 833 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: get that out of your mind. Well, no, it's not that. 834 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one sport you don't expect the 835 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: guy who's a you know, a legendary judicial to pay. 836 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: I played water polo but he's thirteen, you go okay, 837 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: but when you go water polo, you you see what 838 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: we see as Higgins. But he was also training already 839 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: at thirteen. I would have know, but you just did 840 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: you not picture him? Yeah? I picked him like well, 841 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: there's that, and there's also the that he was in Brazil. 842 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: Soccer is like the number one sport there isn't it. 843 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: Fer Can I play soccer football in Brazil. But I 844 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: was never like Jean Jacque. Jean Jaques was good. Jean 845 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: Jacque was really good. Jan Jacque wasn't at level he 846 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: came playing a club. He always one of the best. 847 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: James Jacquie have this ability whatever he do sports wise, 848 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: and he always had bring to the next level. So 849 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: Carlos was good to your brother. Carlo was really good 850 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: your brother Carlos. Yeah, I've trained with him as well. 851 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 1: Incredibly Jean Jacque fantastic soccer player. Didn't Carlos just get 852 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: his red belt? No, he got He's candy cane, red 853 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: and white, right and white? Yeah, what's after reading right red? Yes? 854 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: And then that's it. That's it. That's crazy. How many 855 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: Red belts are there active today? Maybe six? Do you 856 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: know who they are. I know, lit'll be some who 857 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: are there, uh, because they most died. Yeah, I would 858 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: imagine it's like almost eighties. It is not a requirement 859 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: of the red belt to be a red belt, to 860 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: have to be like you know, seventies to eighties, right, 861 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: But they's hard on the red belt red, right, not 862 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: candy can hard as red. Hickson is a candy cane, 863 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: but he doesn't wear it. They want a gift to 864 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: Hickson early, the red belt, but Hickson, I don't think 865 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: he I never seen he use the red belt. He 866 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: used he still uses a coral belt. That that is 867 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: the jiu jitsu. To me, that is the one style 868 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: that has maintain tradition, like the apps. That's what karate 869 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: used to be. Like, it wasn't a it wasn't a business. 870 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: They didn't care how long you were training. You don't 871 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: get a black belt until you earn it, right. So 872 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: the worst thing that happened with karate it became a 873 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: business and they waded it down, water it down, watered 874 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: it down. And so there's you know, I like when 875 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: I made people they're like, oh my my son's a 876 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: black belt in Chronico. That's fucking great, buddy, I'm sure 877 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: he's very effective. Yeah, but that it was like that, 878 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,919 Speaker 1: and in the in the tradition that you know, people 879 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: didn't even you know, desire rank like like that. It's 880 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: like the other people had to promote you to that. Yeah, 881 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: you can't promote yourself. That's the thing with with jiu jitsu. 882 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: People like, what are you, I'm not going I'm a 883 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: blue belt with four stripes to go after five years ago. 884 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: You don't just get it. You gotta earn that. So 885 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: you're not gonna give it to you until you know it. See, 886 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: back in the seventies, a black belt meant that nobody 887 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: was handed out a black belt. If you're a black belt, 888 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 1: that see, that's that's the thing. And it's it's people 889 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: keep thinking about the old tradition and they say, oh 890 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: so so so it's a black he's a black belt. 891 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: It's not what it means anymore, you know, because most 892 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: black belts, I'm like whatever, Yeah, usually it's like an 893 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: end karates like a high level green belt or some 894 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: ship not even no, it's it's because they wouldn't even 895 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: be able to compete with green belts or a green 896 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: belt from in the seventies is way beyond a black 897 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: belt nowadays, because just think about it. If I train 898 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: train my knuckles to break objects, right, i'm hitting you, 899 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: you're hitting me. I'm I'm learning I can withstand somebody 900 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: who can break my ribs, who is hitting me bare fisted, 901 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: and it's trying to, you know, really crack me. Right, 902 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: So I you know how many people will quit because 903 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: they can't deal with that. Well, guess what in the 904 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: nineties or whatever that everybody wore gloves. Yeah, so everyone 905 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: could with staying that now. So just you've never dealt 906 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: with that kind of pain and had to overcome it, 907 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: or somebody hitting you. It's so hard that you wouldn't 908 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: normally quit or you feel like you're gonna quit, but 909 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: then you go. So now everybody can pass, you know 910 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's lovely to see that jiu 911 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: jitsu has not done that. It would be a tragedy. 912 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure there's schools where you can get 913 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: an easy uh come up easier. But when you're that's 914 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: why I train with with the machados or the graces, 915 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: when there's so much of even back in the seventies, 916 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 1: there's probably schools that were lighter, but they didn't survive, right, 917 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: you you couldn't, you couldn't compete against the red you know, 918 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: the traditional people, right exactly. So that's the thing. Um, 919 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: it's sad, but there's probably gonna be a day where 920 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: people are going to keep watering it down, watering it 921 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 1: down because somebody's gonna give a black belt to their 922 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: students because they paid them a bunch of money. Yeah, 923 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to lose that student, right, And somebody 924 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: starts getting super rich from teaching a watered down jiu jitsu, 925 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: and then it influences other jiu jitsu masters to go 926 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: that way and just say, oh, I got five thousand 927 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: students and I'm making all this money and all that stuff. 928 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: And then that's what happens. That's what happened to karate. 929 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: You start, you start getting mega karate schools, and so 930 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: it was it becomes like you know, summer camp and 931 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: and you know, the the instructors they're bowed down to 932 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: and they're going, hey, man, I've busted my ask my 933 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: whole life. Well, hey, I'm gonna sit back and get paid. Eventually, 934 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: that will probably happen with jiu jitsu, happen, right, now, yeah, 935 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: I see a lot of I've watched a lot of 936 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: YouTube stuff with um like fake black belt too, and 937 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: then they get like a real jiu jitsu got to 938 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: go in to school and storm to school and like 939 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,919 Speaker 1: you didn't fucking earn this, so you can't give yeah, 940 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: and then they want to fight the guy. Like guy 941 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want to fight him, You're like you need to 942 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: fight him. You say, you're a black belt and some 943 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: guy comes to your school, You're gonna have to fight 944 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 1: him improve that you're a black belt. But think about this. 945 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: If you imagine somebody who has uh good reputation in 946 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, and that person just goes, screw it, I'm 947 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: going to I just want thousands of students, and he 948 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: will sell his good reputation and get all these people. 949 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 1: So because that guy is legitimate, he's he will get 950 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: um a lot of money and a lot of influence 951 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: because he's legitimate. And then other people who are legitimate, 952 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: it coaxes them, it, you know, makes them start doing that, 953 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: because I've seen it happen with karate where good you know, 954 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: they you know, like I said, they get to the 955 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 1: point where they go, why can't I get paid I 956 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: think you have today true type of belt, the one 957 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: you can buy, one you can they give you because 958 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: he's you want to keep your academy. You have the 959 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: old generation, which they valued the blood, the sweat in 960 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: the HORNA. That's right. And he sometimes I tell the 961 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: some of the guys you can choose. You can go 962 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: to an academy which they will give you the belt 963 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: in the next four years. He got a shot. Pleasure 964 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: to be Michael G. White, my my friends, Higan and Michael. 965 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for coming in today. 966 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: On culturally canceled. That's what I called it, because canceled, 967 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: because I couldn't even say culturally canceled because we're living 968 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: at the time of cancel. Culture true and my material, 969 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: my act, my way of thinking is perfectly in line 970 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: with what would be canceled. And I'm like, it's gonna swing. 971 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: The pendulum is going to swing back that. Oh, I'm 972 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 1: not worried about it, because sure it will. Because people 973 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 1: don't focus on intent. We we need to focus on intent, 974 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: not the word. The words don't mean shit. The words 975 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: aren't the words that are gonna hurt you. It's the intent. 976 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: But if an asshole is deciphering that. There you go. Yeah, 977 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: but I also said, the people that are trying to 978 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 1: cancel you were never the people that were in your 979 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,919 Speaker 1: corner to begin with. So don't worry about the people 980 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: that don't like you. Worry about the people that love you. Yeah, yeah, 981 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: you know I would. I would second that, And I'm 982 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,360 Speaker 1: looking forward now. Also, I want to talk about this 983 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 1: really quick before we go. Um we have when when 984 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: is our movie coming out? Mike, Well, it should be 985 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: coming up. It's definitely coming out this year, yes, sir, yes, sir. Um. 986 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: And you know, you know the movie is loosely based 987 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: on well, it is based on Black Wall Street, Tulsa. 988 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: Do you know about that? Oh yeah, but again in Oklahoma. 989 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: That's where that's where the and the was it the forties, 990 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: the thirties is a hundred anniversary this year. It happened 991 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: in Black Wall Street, thriving black community on their own, 992 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: without any help of anybody, you know, and they they 993 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: it was like it was like a domestic like terrorists, 994 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: like they just destroy this whole community. This is this 995 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: is uh, this story of where the movie occurs. It's 996 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: like the beginning of that town. Um and um, so 997 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: it's the timing is right because it's a hundred anniversary 998 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of things. There's an 999 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: HBO series that's gonna be talking about Black Wall Street. Um, 1000 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: and uh, this movie is kind of highlighting that. So 1001 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: um our movie is. Um, it's looking good and I 1002 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: don't fall you know, I don't fall in love with 1003 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: my own stuff better. Some of it's really good. I 1004 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: am my. I'll always be my own worst critics. I 1005 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: said some of it, I mean, but this I'm really 1006 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: feeling where where we're at with this movie, The Outlaw 1007 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: Johnny Black, Um, the three of us are in this movie. 1008 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: Michael wrote and directed it, and Hegan is in it 1009 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: and nine minute and we have an interesting relationship. Piggan 1010 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: myself in this movie. I like that. Yes to Hegan Mashadow, 1011 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: what's your Instagram? Not what's it's at R I G 1012 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: A N M A C H A d O. And 1013 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: now here's the funny thing. Every time I post something 1014 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: that is Machadow on it, I get people in India 1015 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: laughing because You're like, motherfucker, And I'm like, what go yeah, 1016 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: macho it means motherfucker, And I'm like, oh wow, yeah, okay, 1017 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: and uh and Michael Ji White, what is your instagram 1018 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: Ji Michael White, Jian Michael White. Wait a minute, Instagram, No, 1019 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: it's uh. You want me to pull it up because 1020 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: official Michael Ji official Michael Ji. And in Indiana, ji 1021 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: means victory. Yeah, jihole. Yeah, and he was, oh, so 1022 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,959 Speaker 1: this is great to know, former hole. Until you find 1023 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: your person, you slut around as much as you can 1024 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: so then and then people think, oh, it's a woman, 1025 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: I sir, No, No, we're looking for something exactly. And 1026 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: it's an numbers game. Yeah. I mean it's like fishing, 1027 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, they say plenty of fish in the sea. Hey, 1028 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: I left that. I I reconnected with my soul mate. Yeah. Yeah, 1029 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: when I was a whore or whole back twenty five 1030 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: years ago, we were together and lost contact. What did 1031 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: break you up the first time? When you get all 1032 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,280 Speaker 1: up in your business just because I just was running 1033 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: around fair, I mean, we met the right person at 1034 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: the wrong time. Yeah, And I didn't apply myself, right, 1035 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: I didn't apply myself. I find out who we were, 1036 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: because it would have been over back then, it would 1037 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: have just been like yeah, it would have ruined the 1038 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: whole thing. No no no no no no no no 1039 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: no no. I would have been like I would have 1040 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,440 Speaker 1: married her five years ago, but you would have sluttered 1041 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: around no no, no no no. I was honestly slutting 1042 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: around to find the one right when you didn't realize 1043 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: you had the one. Yes, I didn't find out I had. Yeah. 1044 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: You need to know. You need to lose in order 1045 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: to know what a victory feels like. This is true. 1046 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: That was profound, That very profound should end on something. 1047 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: We're going to definitely done that. Thank you, Michael, Thank you, Hgan, 1048 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you Courtney, our wonderful producer, and Eddie. 1049 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for all your googling prowess on l Google the 1050 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Mexican Google Russell Peters on culturally Canceled. 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