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Speaker 1: to movie Crush everyone. I think we should leave all
Speaker 1: that stuff in. I'm here in Atlanta, and I'm speaking
Speaker 1: with my old pal and his above ground bunker in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York, Mr John Kellogg Hodgman. Yes, that's right. That
Speaker 1: is my middle name k E double l O double
Speaker 1: g h O d G M A N No Ian Hodgeman.
Speaker 1: You would never make that mistake. Check. But some of
Speaker 1: my oldest friends in the world still spell my name incorrectly.
Speaker 1: Really Oh yeah, but like John j O and h
Speaker 1: O d G E M A N, which is both
Speaker 1: of those are incorrect. You gotta cut these, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know that's the time, right, Now's the time, now that
Speaker 1: we're all home alone, and it's time to reevaluate all
Speaker 1: the friendships, start making a list and changing it. Twice,
Speaker 1: I thought that we would catch up on the air.
Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing. I'm you know, I'm hold
Speaker 1: up and holding up. You know, we're okay here in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, my, you know, for for my,
Speaker 1: for my wife and our children. Obvious disruption because she
Speaker 1: is a high school teacher. My wife that is, and
Speaker 1: our daughter and our son are are high school students
Speaker 1: at all different high schools, so they're all you know,
Speaker 1: distance learning, distance teaching, which is a big adjustment. But
Speaker 1: my life is very similar to what it's been for
Speaker 1: the past couple of years since I kind of got
Speaker 1: off the road and I have been homebodying it up
Speaker 1: and writing books anyway and podcasting with your masks on.
Speaker 1: I don't have it, I don't. I don't have one.
Speaker 1: I would, I mean, I guess you can't donate those things,
Speaker 1: did you really? Well? Yeah, standing down would yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Being a handy masculine man, well, well, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: I think well, I mean, compared to me I'm you're
Speaker 1: you're Conan the Barbarian. You're looking a little scruffy. You're
Speaker 1: looking good, thank you. I have not checked my we're
Speaker 1: not recording the video. I do not believe. So people
Speaker 1: just have to believe that I look like, as I
Speaker 1: always say, the part time bookkeeping, uh, the part time
Speaker 1: bookkeeper for the Duck Dynasty. Ever heard that one yet?
Speaker 1: That's good? Now, Now it's an old it's an oldie.
Speaker 1: But okay, so just enough to where you can do
Speaker 1: some of their handiwork for them. No, I mostly just say,
Speaker 1: you're you're spending too much on Confederate flags. Let's end
Speaker 1: it that out. You're spending too much on colloidal silver pills.
Speaker 1: I don't know Duck Dynasty. Why are we even talking
Speaker 1: about them anymore? In past? I'm glad to say it's
Speaker 1: been too much on chlora nique hydro chloric quinn? Is
Speaker 1: that is that the other one? Are there a couple
Speaker 1: of them? The one that uh, the one that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the cure all for the COVID nineteen Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't you heard the breaking news yesterday
Speaker 1: that we can bathe and UV light and inject disinfectant
Speaker 1: into our bodies. Yeah, I've been wasting all my time
Speaker 1: bathing in pure l. I could have set up a
Speaker 1: grow up in my in my uh, in my bathroom,
Speaker 1: in my in my shower stall. No. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: to learn how to pronounce hydro chlora quinn because like
Speaker 1: it just was bugging me that. Yeah, Donald Donald Trump
Speaker 1: could pronounce it effortlessly, and I and I was going
Speaker 1: I drive luck Luck. Oh. I think there was a
Speaker 1: great deal of behind the scenes effort there, my friend. Uh, well, yes,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, it just it just goes
Speaker 1: to show you that he that you know, when he
Speaker 1: puts his mind to something, he can do it. If
Speaker 1: the job is to pronounce this this snake oil the
Speaker 1: fucking presidency. Are we keeping this in? But sure? This
Speaker 1: is the show, Okay. I just don't know your audience,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, some people might hate this,
Speaker 1: but that's just the world we live in right now.
Speaker 1: Everybody out there who voted for Donald Trump, you are,
Speaker 1: you are my you are my neighbors, and I love you.
Speaker 1: I am. I have some quarrel with your decision making,
Speaker 1: but that's okay. Well, well they're going to get out
Speaker 1: of this together somehow. So John today a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I think it's. Um, if I'm not mistaken, is it
Speaker 1: Jesse Thorne's birthday? Yes? Is it? Certainly? Is? Hang on
Speaker 1: one second place? Do do do? Text? Text? Text Jesse
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Happy birthday. That's right, It is his birthday.
Speaker 1: That's right, because I'm suppsed to get on a call
Speaker 1: with him later. Yeah, I think it is if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. And I only know that because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Chuck, time has no meaning. Days are
Speaker 1: blurring together. Yeah, exactly. Reality, Reality is collapsing, and we
Speaker 1: all we're all doing the best we can right now. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what that leads to me to our first
Speaker 1: little segment. What we have been doing for these mini
Speaker 1: crushes is starting off with reading out some of the
Speaker 1: Facebook messages asked for what positives are people experiencing during
Speaker 1: this time, because it's making us all feel better to
Speaker 1: talk about that stuff. And and lieu of that, I
Speaker 1: thought we'd talked to you about what positives that you
Speaker 1: and your family have experienced thus far. Well, come on, man,
Speaker 1: there's gotta be one. Well, I mean, the the obvious
Speaker 1: positive is that, um, we're we're all you know, physically sound,
Speaker 1: and you know the I won't go I won't go
Speaker 1: into details because they're meaningless details. But there were a
Speaker 1: couple of days that I had a fever and some
Speaker 1: difficulty breathing. And who knows if this was this or
Speaker 1: this was just you know, nerves or something else, We'll
Speaker 1: never know. Luckily it resolved as well. You know, if
Speaker 1: anyone ever finally knocks on my door and says you
Speaker 1: want to take a test, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, we'll never We'll never know unless
Speaker 1: there is a test. And even now, the zoology tests
Speaker 1: for antibodies are not proving to be particularly reliable, so
Speaker 1: eventually we may or may not know. But you know,
Speaker 1: those were those were days of hard to manage terror, right, um,
Speaker 1: which you know, on balance, I am glad that I
Speaker 1: went through both because my hope is, you know, knock wood,
Speaker 1: that's something you have in your house, you sand down
Speaker 1: for a very anti person. Um. My my hope is
Speaker 1: that you know, it means the fact that I recovered
Speaker 1: from whatever it is I had and and my family
Speaker 1: didn't get sick, would suggest that we've we've got a
Speaker 1: little bit of an antibody firewall up, so that but
Speaker 1: you know, it really does bring into relief, you know.
Speaker 1: After that was after a week or two out out
Speaker 1: of the world and the beginning of a feeling of
Speaker 1: like this is a snow day, and then a reminder,
Speaker 1: this is not a snow day. This is a public
Speaker 1: health crisis that is affecting a lot of people very
Speaker 1: very adversely and tragically. So that's the big pause, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like every day I get up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, this is this is really good.
Speaker 1: I've also I've also had some new soft clothes that, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm really getting into elastic waste bands. This a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, as I as I've been sliding into middle age,
Speaker 1: that was always the place where I would not go,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to go to elastic waste bands
Speaker 1: as a lifestyle choice. But now who cares? You know,
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't even wear your soft clothes around the house. No,
Speaker 1: I would. I would wear him around the house, but
Speaker 1: I would feel like a like a sluggard, a laya
Speaker 1: bid But no, But now I feel like that's half
Speaker 1: my job is to sleep and mark time and have
Speaker 1: intense dreams um and then you know, the other you
Speaker 1: know that, so that that's positively had some you know,
Speaker 1: uh with some good news or daughter got into the
Speaker 1: college that she wanted to go to. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very exciting, and you know, we kind of she had
Speaker 1: been deferred after having applied early and had kind of
Speaker 1: made her peace with the statistical likelihood that she would
Speaker 1: not get in. So it was a very happy surprise.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's also like there's a big
Speaker 1: question Marcus to Weather College, as will even happen in
Speaker 1: the fall? Yeah, I'm kind of there. Everything is is,
Speaker 1: uh is somewhat haunted by this. Luckily you're in Georgia
Speaker 1: where things are about to open right back up again.
Speaker 1: It's just going to be great business as usual, show
Speaker 1: show all of us blue states that we got. We
Speaker 1: got a little cuckoo over nothing. I can't wait, man,
Speaker 1: I'm going Yeah, we're going to go. I'm going to
Speaker 1: get my nails done because I want to have them
Speaker 1: all nice before I go bowling. Yep. And then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to I'm gonna hit the gym and get
Speaker 1: a massage. Afterwards, I would go to the tanning salon,
Speaker 1: get some of that UV light, you know, what I
Speaker 1: mean just I mean, even though it's all it's even
Speaker 1: though it's all uh, it's all an overblown liberal hoax.
Speaker 1: I mean, why not, why not bathe in the wisdom
Speaker 1: of of our betters? Uh? What about what about you?
Speaker 1: What's been in pause for you? Well, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: at home a lot anyway. I don't have a job
Speaker 1: where I'm in the office. You know, forty is a
Speaker 1: week or anything like that. So um, but it has
Speaker 1: been nice just for all three of us to be
Speaker 1: here all the time together. Uh, not without its challenges,
Speaker 1: to be sure, with a close to five year old,
Speaker 1: but um who doesn't quite understand things. But we've been
Speaker 1: having a pretty good time. I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: And the nice thing is that you have I have
Speaker 1: been a guest in your home. You're a very gracious host.
Speaker 1: Thank you, wonderful guest room. Everyone should go check it out.
Speaker 1: Chuck's addresses to come on out. But I mean you
Speaker 1: you have you have rooms, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a big Atlanta advantage. You
Speaker 1: have a home with rooms, whereas here in Brooklyn we
Speaker 1: have uh an apartment with a room. Yeah, and some
Speaker 1: sleeping pods. But you know, we have we have some say,
Speaker 1: we have some escape valves, you know, are our our
Speaker 1: our apartment building is kind of half occupied the moment.
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little twenty eight days later
Speaker 1: feeling because a lot of people high tailed it. I
Speaker 1: thought you might to Maine. But yeah, we have, we
Speaker 1: have a home in Maine. And that was initially our
Speaker 1: our you know, immediate thought, especially that of my wife,
Speaker 1: who loves Maine more than any other place or person
Speaker 1: on earth. She was like, if schools canceled, we're out
Speaker 1: of here. Not not necessarily for any particular public health reason,
Speaker 1: but because it's like, why not let's go to Maine.
Speaker 1: A S A P. That's her, you know, she's got
Speaker 1: a car idling in her brain ready to go at
Speaker 1: all times. Yeah, that would have I would have done that.
Speaker 1: But it didn't take much of a moment to think
Speaker 1: that that that was not going to be a good idea,
Speaker 1: a great idea, because on the one on this was
Speaker 1: you know, on the one hand, you know, she's still
Speaker 1: got to teach and the kids still got to learn.
Speaker 1: So we need all the broadband we can get, and
Speaker 1: like a lot of rural communities, um internet Internet is
Speaker 1: hard to get not so great, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: part of the infrastructure that I hope we get around
Speaker 1: to fixing in this nation. Maybe this experience will sort
Speaker 1: of open some eyes in the the next administration, wherever
Speaker 1: it may come, how important, how important it is to
Speaker 1: make sure that rural communities are not at a digital disadvantage.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trump, we'll figure that out in years five
Speaker 1: through eight. Sure, sure, well, I will see what happens. Uh.
Speaker 1: And as well, you know, Maine is a statistically one
Speaker 1: of the oldest states. Um it's celebrating its bicentennials the state,
Speaker 1: so it's not the oldest state, but the population is
Speaker 1: quite elderly, and their health care system is small obviously
Speaker 1: much smaller even proportionate to their population than New York.
Speaker 1: And then there was the thought, well, what if I
Speaker 1: went up there and got and got sick, I'd be
Speaker 1: putting a burden on there because I have asthma, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be putting a burden on their health
Speaker 1: care system, and and maybe you know, not not necessarily
Speaker 1: getting the care that I need right while also taking
Speaker 1: a bet away from someone who could benefit from it.
Speaker 1: But all of that, all of that changed what pretty
Speaker 1: quickly when we realized, oh wait a minute. You know,
Speaker 1: we're trained by movies, which is what this podcast is
Speaker 1: all about. We're trained by movies like I Am Legend
Speaker 1: and twenty eight Days Later and all every zombie movie
Speaker 1: that we are the hero of the story. That we
Speaker 1: trained to think that we're the hero of the story
Speaker 1: A and B. We are the uninfected in our job
Speaker 1: is to run from the infected or to barricade ourselves
Speaker 1: away from the infected. When the reality that it's taking people,
Speaker 1: it's a real hard mental leap to understand. Like my
Speaker 1: doctors said very early ones, most of us are going
Speaker 1: to get this. Most of us probably already have it.
Speaker 1: You know. The weird thing about this virus is that
Speaker 1: it is uh, it affects people in wildly different ways.
Speaker 1: Some people get it and never never a symptom. It's
Speaker 1: and and it's wildly contagious even if you don't have symptoms.
Speaker 1: So it didn't take us as much of a second
Speaker 1: to realize, oh wait a minute, we're already, as people
Speaker 1: from away in Maine, we're already considered to be an
Speaker 1: invasive species. Yeah, like we're already problems, you know, We're
Speaker 1: we're just problem We're just headaches with money, you know.
Speaker 1: So if if we end up being highly contagious fevers,
Speaker 1: then our money doesn't count anymore, you know what I mean. Like, um,
Speaker 1: so we decided to stay away from our our neighbors,
Speaker 1: and we know we've been, we've we've we've lived there
Speaker 1: part time now for almost five six years, and you know,
Speaker 1: we love our We've come to love our neighbors, and
Speaker 1: I think our neighbors have come to tolerate us, and
Speaker 1: we don't want to ruin that relationship by swanning up
Speaker 1: there in our plaid pants licking their door knobs, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, Well, you can read
Speaker 1: about all this good stuff in a couple of great
Speaker 1: books if I'm not mistaken sure, Lost on a Mountain
Speaker 1: in Maine, A Classic Boy's Tail of Getting Lost in
Speaker 1: a Mountain and Maine. Also my two books, the one
Speaker 1: two punch of of of autobiography by me John Hodgman,
Speaker 1: Vacation Land, which is named for the motto of the
Speaker 1: state of Maine and medallion status, and the other Big Pause,
Speaker 1: since we're since we're plugging and this is not something
Speaker 1: I plugged in order in order to make any money.
Speaker 1: It's just something I plug because I enjoyed doing it.
Speaker 1: One of the big positives for me is that I
Speaker 1: have been doing this thing last year on and off
Speaker 1: every now and then called Get Your Pets, where I
Speaker 1: go on Instagram Live and people request to join my
Speaker 1: video and I select them and then I interview their
Speaker 1: cats and dogs and other pets. And as soon as
Speaker 1: soon as the as soon as the you know, quarantine, lockdown,
Speaker 1: stay at home, whatever you wanna call it, came in,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm stuck at home, and I
Speaker 1: know a lot more people are stuck at home than ever.
Speaker 1: Your pets business, Yeah, well, I mean it's not a biz.
Speaker 1: It's just like I want to It's more like I
Speaker 1: I really need some you know, an emotional support, animal therapy.
Speaker 1: I want to see some pets. It's very you know,
Speaker 1: looking at a dog as you well know is uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a hard shot of serotonin straight to the brain.
Speaker 1: You feel good when you pet a dog or a
Speaker 1: cat or a snake. Or We had a couple of
Speaker 1: chameleons on Get Your Pets. Kermit the Chameleon and then
Speaker 1: Dave the Discount Chameleon. Met Dave the Discount Chameleon yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dave is one of the many pets of a woman
Speaker 1: named Amanda who's a grounded flight attendant. And she she said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were getting we were at the we're at pet
Speaker 1: Smart getting a getting a mouse for our snake, Annabel,
Speaker 1: and we saw Dave the chameleon was there and that
Speaker 1: was highly discounted. And when we asked, when we asked why,
Speaker 1: the Pet Smart person said, because he's a he's an
Speaker 1: asshole or something like that. No, well, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but like he he
Speaker 1: hisses and he's mean, and Amanda felt so bad that
Speaker 1: she took him in. So now he's Dave the Discount Chameleon. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just so much fun to you know. Part of
Speaker 1: you know, the other podcast I do ostensibly for money
Speaker 1: is Judge John Hodgman, and I want to thank all
Speaker 1: of the Maximum Fun members who are hanging in there
Speaker 1: with their memberships going maximum fun dot org slash joined.
Speaker 1: But you know, Judge John Hodgeman is the joy of
Speaker 1: it for me is getting to appear, at least audiophonically
Speaker 1: into the lives of other people all over the country,
Speaker 1: in the world and get your pets. I can actually
Speaker 1: see into their homes and see their cats and dogs,
Speaker 1: and see their litter boxes and their snakes and there
Speaker 1: you know, Danny and Pittsburgh has a rabbit named Ander
Speaker 1: Sand and twenty hissing cockroaches that she didn't bother to
Speaker 1: name in a tank on purpose. Yeah, learn about people
Speaker 1: and stuff. Have pictures of you in my son room
Speaker 1: with my animals literally sitting all on top of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved all your dogs. I don't remember their names,
Speaker 1: that's all right. Nico and Charlie were the dogs, and
Speaker 1: they were Nico on your lap. And I believe that
Speaker 1: pictures of my cats Leave On and Luna also sitting
Speaker 1: on you in various ways. Right, I knew that there
Speaker 1: was more than just the two dogs are all the
Speaker 1: There's a large menagerie there in the Chuck Bryant Home.
Speaker 1: Always always gotta have two and two at least. Are
Speaker 1: you sure you don't have a third dog wandering around
Speaker 1: in there? It would be possible. I'm looking now, I
Speaker 1: feel like like a ghost dog. Shout out to Jim Jarmush. Well. Also,
Speaker 1: while we're plugging to one of the segments I had
Speaker 1: teed up here is one of your projects that you
Speaker 1: have been doing with the wonderful and charming Elliott Kalin.
Speaker 1: I have not listened yet, but I would love for
Speaker 1: you to talk a little bit about I pod Vious. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess Latin wise it be pronounced I Podius, okay,
Speaker 1: but we pronounce it ipodius. It is a podcast about Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a podcast about the classic nineteen seventy six BBC
Speaker 1: Prestige drama mini series about ancient Rome called I Claudius.
Speaker 1: And in nineteen seventy six, I mean, this thing was
Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones of its time. It was wildly popular,
Speaker 1: scandalous because of its frank, sexual content and nudity. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a twelve part drama about the
Speaker 1: lives of the Claudian I guess it's the the Augustus
Speaker 1: slash Claudian family, the ruling family of Rome right at
Speaker 1: the right at the you know, turn of BC two
Speaker 1: Anno Domini, after Augustus, the first Emperor of Rome, had
Speaker 1: seized power. And it is told from the point of
Speaker 1: view of Claudius, who is augustus step grandson, who has
Speaker 1: a stammer and a limp, and everyone presumes he is
Speaker 1: the dumbest person in Rome, but he's but he is
Speaker 1: not immediately put to death because he's a member of
Speaker 1: the royal family. But in fact he's incredibly smart and
Speaker 1: he records the family history, including all the stuff that
Speaker 1: you don't hear about, like the backstabbings, the literal backstabbings,
Speaker 1: the figurative backstabbings, the literal front stabbings, the actual the
Speaker 1: actual poisonings. And it's just this incredibly juicy family soap
Speaker 1: opera all wrapped up in this like with some of
Speaker 1: the greatest character actors in British history, from you know
Speaker 1: Sean Phillips, the famous Welsh actress, to Derrick Jacoby who
Speaker 1: plays Claudius. Brian Blessed plays Augustus. Patrick Stewart plays a
Speaker 1: villain named said Janus, and he and and his hair
Speaker 1: is to pay On, which is very unnerving. Um so
Speaker 1: many incredible John Hurt plays Caligula, just incredible British actors
Speaker 1: in or before their prime, like before they had really
Speaker 1: been discovered, like Sir Patrick Stewart, and it's all wrapped
Speaker 1: up in the in this incredibly shabby package. Because of
Speaker 1: course they had about thirty five pounds sterling with which
Speaker 1: to make this thing, and the entire the entire show
Speaker 1: is said. I think Elliott and I counted it's it's
Speaker 1: it's shot on I think five sets, and they all
Speaker 1: they all look like they're being filmed. They're being filmed
Speaker 1: like with a one of those video cameras used to
Speaker 1: rent from the video store for for a birthday party
Speaker 1: in someone's in someone's reck room, painted up to look
Speaker 1: like ancient Rome. It's just I mean, from an acting standpoint,
Speaker 1: from a sort of history of television standpoint, from a
Speaker 1: history of Rome standpoint, and just like a juicy mini
Speaker 1: series standpoint, It's just one of my favorite pieces of
Speaker 1: culture of all time. So last year when Elliottkalin, who's
Speaker 1: the co host of a podcast called The Flophouse Terrible Movies,
Speaker 1: Elliot and I were doing some promotion for for the
Speaker 1: Maximum Fund Network are are Shared Podcast Network during their
Speaker 1: fun drive last year, and when I learned that he
Speaker 1: had not ever seen I Claudius Um, I dared him
Speaker 1: that if we reached a certain fundraising goal to record
Speaker 1: a mini series or recap mini series about it. And
Speaker 1: we reached that goal, I'm glad to say, and and
Speaker 1: over the course of the fall UH. He and I
Speaker 1: were you know, rewatched and talked about all the episodes
Speaker 1: of I Claudius, and we ended up interviewing Patrick Stewart,
Speaker 1: the the famous UH podcast historian of Rome. Mike Duncan
Speaker 1: comes in UM, lots and lots of people associated with
Speaker 1: the with the production, and then Jordan Cowing, our producer,
Speaker 1: got in there and just mixed it all together in
Speaker 1: such a beautiful way. So it really ended up being
Speaker 1: I think lot more than some of its parts. A
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, have been saying to me,
Speaker 1: I've I've listened to the podcast. I've never seen an
Speaker 1: episode of I Claudius, and it's still a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: But I would encourage people, if they're home and they
Speaker 1: don't have anything else to do, check out Acorn TV
Speaker 1: or your local library. Hoopla is a streaming service that
Speaker 1: connects to your library card UH and and get your
Speaker 1: or iTunes, get your hands on some I Claudius because
Speaker 1: it's really it's a really great watch, and then you know,
Speaker 1: follow along with us. As h Elliott and I talked
Speaker 1: about it on I Potius. I can't wait. I've been
Speaker 1: looking forward to that because I'm a big flaphouse guy.
Speaker 1: I love Elliott and when you when you guys started
Speaker 1: talking about this, it's really wet my appetite. I've just
Speaker 1: been binging another show, but I'm about to catch have
Speaker 1: you been what have you been binging? I've been binging
Speaker 1: the Scott Ackerman, Adam Scott, you two and R. E.
Speaker 1: M podcasts. Oh yeah, right, exactly, that's sure, of course,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. So I've been doing that and I'm
Speaker 1: almost done with those, and there's a lot of them,
Speaker 1: and then I'm free to back up and have a
Speaker 1: lot of great stuff on the on the back iron
Speaker 1: that I can now backburner that can now get into. Well,
Speaker 1: you and you and Emily should watch I Claudius, and
Speaker 1: then whether or not you listen to I Podies, you
Speaker 1: should watch I Claudius is great. Uh, don't let your
Speaker 1: daughter in the room because it's it's it's scandalous and
Speaker 1: a big, a big you know I or you know
Speaker 1: for me, going back, when I first watched I Claudius
Speaker 1: all the way through in the nineties, it was because I,
Speaker 1: like so many other children of public television watchers, have
Speaker 1: been traumatized wandering in to the television room while my
Speaker 1: parents were watching John hurt Uh do his cuckoo murder
Speaker 1: dance with with his nude sister bride or whatever. And
Speaker 1: one of the great pleasures of Ipodius was was getting
Speaker 1: letters from people recounting their own childhood traumatic experience, either
Speaker 1: you know, being being being uh? Was it being exposed
Speaker 1: to eye Claudius in inopportune times like right uh? Including
Speaker 1: a lot of high school Latin classes watch it moves
Speaker 1: and the tea and the teachers would like run to
Speaker 1: cover up the screen with a Minila folder when right,
Speaker 1: because here's new to d in it and stuff. It's fun.
Speaker 1: There's an orgy. Well, of course I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see it. Well, we're gonna move on to a segment
Speaker 1: John that I don't think that we did with you
Speaker 1: the other times that you appeared on the Mini Crushes.
Speaker 1: It's a little segment called Hodgeman's Holes. Yes, wherein I
Speaker 1: list out twenty movies of a specific genre, in this
Speaker 1: case indie films, and you have to tell me whether
Speaker 1: or not you have seen this movie. In your holes
Speaker 1: will be exposed. I have a lot of holes checked. Well,
Speaker 1: I know about your holes, no, but I mean in
Speaker 1: this particular regard. If you indie movies, I bet you
Speaker 1: there's a lot I haven't seen. So I just want
Speaker 1: you to prepare, listeners, prepare yourselves. I pretend to know
Speaker 1: a lot about stuff, but I don't know everything. All right,
Speaker 1: I've got my sharpie out, I've got my yes column
Speaker 1: and my no column, and we're going to start out
Speaker 1: with a little indie movie. Uh, the screen debut of
Speaker 1: a certain young actress, a movie called Winter's Bone. Yes,
Speaker 1: seen it? Okay, starring Julia Louis Dreyfuss. That's right. Is
Speaker 1: that West Virginia detective movie where she's the she's the
Speaker 1: teenage detective, that's right, and someone car tracking down her
Speaker 1: dead beat dad. Right, Yeah, that's right. But I forget
Speaker 1: the name of the actor, Jennifer Jennifer Lawrence. I think
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence. That's right. She's called debut her debut. So
Speaker 1: I'm losing a lot of brain cells during this quarantine.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. Oh, I'm glad to hear that. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, all right. Number two John, a little movie
Speaker 1: called Little Miss Sunshine. Saw it? Okay? Yeah, I saw that,
Speaker 1: So far, so good. Number three John, the third movie
Speaker 1: of a trilogy thus Far. Trilogy that was hang On
Speaker 1: that was directed by Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Ferris A
Speaker 1: Little Miss Sunshine. Yeah, I worked with them for a
Speaker 1: long time on a script. After that. We had a
Speaker 1: great time. They were wonderful, They're wonderful. The script went,
Speaker 1: the script did not end up happening, of course, well
Speaker 1: that's how it usually goes, right, But I adored them
Speaker 1: and Little Mis Sunshine is great, great, great, And I'll
Speaker 1: say one more time, great movie. I love it. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what in that movie, that bit that I
Speaker 1: could not get enough of, and I laugh every time
Speaker 1: I see it is the that weak Volkswagen horn getting
Speaker 1: stuck and occasionally just going I just remember early on
Speaker 1: in the movie when they picked up Alan Arkin and
Speaker 1: he just casually shooting up Heroin in the back of
Speaker 1: the microfress. I was just like, Oh, I'm all, I'm
Speaker 1: along for this ride for sure. Uh So. Number three
Speaker 1: is the the third movie of a trilogy thus Far,
Speaker 1: a trilogy from a filmmaker named Richard link Ladder, a
Speaker 1: movie called Before Midnight. I saw the first one before
Speaker 1: Before Sunrise, and that's it. That was the nineties. Thinky
Speaker 1: rom com Jam not not calm rom rom rom dram,
Speaker 1: rom dram, thinky smarty, pansy, Julia delpi ethan hockey thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: And then I think I saw so it was before sunrise,
Speaker 1: and then was like before lunchtime. What was the next one?
Speaker 1: I think it was post brunch, before afternoon nap, the
Speaker 1: one where they got back together, you know, before on set,
Speaker 1: and then before midnight. It was the third. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: saw before sunset, and I'm like, I don't ever need
Speaker 1: to see these people ever again. Okay, well that's I
Speaker 1: don't care what time of day or night they're meeting, alright.
Speaker 1: Number four uh an indie film that that got a
Speaker 1: lot of acclaim that I still have not seen from
Speaker 1: a few years ago called Moonlight. Yeah, I saw it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Chuck, You're doing great. That was amazing.
Speaker 1: That was an amazing movie. I got that on a
Speaker 1: screener because I'm a member of the Screen Actors Guilt.
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, but I mean, you know, like getting
Speaker 1: getting screeners for awards consideration is this huge mental burden
Speaker 1: because you think you're getting free movies, but what you're
Speaker 1: really getting his homework, ay and be piles and piles
Speaker 1: and piles and piles of DVDs, Like, what do you like?
Speaker 1: Who wants these? I don't even know. I don't even like.
Speaker 1: It's hard to find a DVD play or to put
Speaker 1: this into. And never mind the tremendous, uh ecological waste
Speaker 1: of printing these things, putting them in cardboard or plastic,
Speaker 1: and then mailing them all over the place. Just send
Speaker 1: me a link, Send me a link, Hollywood. Well, so
Speaker 1: I'd like to work again some day, so please don't
Speaker 1: take him again. Ser you have a DVD player? Right? Probably? No?
Speaker 1: Do you have a PS four? Your son? Probably? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was the maybe the greatest error I've ever made
Speaker 1: in my life, was getting your son is PS four. No.
Speaker 1: I got a p S three originally because a friend
Speaker 1: named Kenneth Plume, who knows who knows and knew what
Speaker 1: he was talking about, told me that that was the
Speaker 1: best blue ray player. And this goes back to, you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, right when physical media was still a
Speaker 1: thing we're thinking about and blue ray was kind of
Speaker 1: maybe going to happen, and I'm like, what's the best
Speaker 1: one to get? And Ken told me Ken who has
Speaker 1: a great podcast called A Bit of a Chat, which
Speaker 1: I'll plug I Wonderful Conversation podcast. Wonderful conversationalist can Ken
Speaker 1: Plume look him up? Uh? Ken uh said, well, really,
Speaker 1: the PlayStation is the best one because it's the only
Speaker 1: one that updates automatically. And I'm like, all right, whatever,
Speaker 1: And I was like, but this is a great excuse
Speaker 1: to get a game console as well. And it was.
Speaker 1: And I and I had played some video games in
Speaker 1: the nineties, you know, because I had no no families, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no prospects, no family. What else was I gonna do
Speaker 1: but stay up all night playing thief or tomb Raader.
Speaker 1: But and I and I had just gotten kidnapped by
Speaker 1: television and gotten this completely unexpected job on the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: So I had a little bit of money and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll go a video game. And our kids were
Speaker 1: really too little to play video games, so uh, it
Speaker 1: was like I just I got back into video games
Speaker 1: for a bit. But then this thing was lying around
Speaker 1: to be discovered by both of our children and especially
Speaker 1: my son, and now the PS the PS four is
Speaker 1: now a huge, huge, huge part of his life. And
Speaker 1: quarantine and it's um because we do not live in
Speaker 1: several rooms check uh, I feel we are living spaces
Speaker 1: one big living room, timing room, TV area, kitchen. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've spent the past several several fortnights in Fortnite,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Is that what he's playing,
Speaker 1: so that Apex legends a little bit of Elder scrolls.
Speaker 1: He rolls a lot of different dice. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've been so yeah, well we can play it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: you go. Well, I've been gaming a little bit again
Speaker 1: in the Quarantine, and I've been talking a lot on
Speaker 1: the show, but I've bought my first headset of my life,
Speaker 1: and I've actually been playing Red Dead Redemption to online
Speaker 1: with Adam Pranica and Ben Harrison. Oh that's fun and
Speaker 1: so late at night because they're on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: we will form a posse and spend a couple of
Speaker 1: hours robin banks and and fishing and hunting and killing people.
Speaker 1: And it's it's been so much fun. You need to
Speaker 1: get out there in the world with your friends, even
Speaker 1: if it's virtually don't kill people unless you're in a
Speaker 1: video game. I've been having a great time. It's really
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I mean, you know, we have the
Speaker 1: we have the ability to play a physical media. And
Speaker 1: I guess that that was the year that I sat
Speaker 1: down and I was like, I'm gonna watch as many
Speaker 1: of these nominated films as I can see. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's good. It's good. It's good to force
Speaker 1: yourself to see something absolutely new rather than, because there's
Speaker 1: so much out there, let's just you know, rehash, a reboot.
Speaker 1: And it's also there's so much of a inclination right
Speaker 1: now to just go back to the comfort to the
Speaker 1: comfort food, especially now for sure, like watch Raiders at
Speaker 1: the Lost Ark for the seventh time. Yeah, alright's a
Speaker 1: good idea. Number five Johnson, is that on your list?
Speaker 1: I've seen that one. No, it's not an indie movie.
Speaker 1: I know you've seen this. I feel pretty sure. From
Speaker 1: your Coolidge Corner of theater days a little movie from
Speaker 1: a filmmaker named Jim Jarmish called Stranger Than Paradise. Yes,
Speaker 1: chat out to the Coolidge Corner Theater in Brookline, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: my hometown. They're doing virtual screenings, like a lot of
Speaker 1: small local movie theaters are doing. You know, if you've
Speaker 1: got a local movie theater, local small independent movie theater
Speaker 1: in your community, check out and see if they're doing
Speaker 1: any virtual screenings, it's a quite a great way to
Speaker 1: support your local independent movie theater. Totally, where did I
Speaker 1: Where did I see? Did I see Strangers in Paradise
Speaker 1: in the theater? I think I saw it on video,
Speaker 1: probably because down by Law was screened at the Bookline
Speaker 1: Arts Center. Great movie, and Sam Potts and I went
Speaker 1: to see it, and that was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard the music of Tom Waite's in that opening
Speaker 1: credit sequence, and then of course Tom Whit's is in
Speaker 1: the movie. Just movie reshaped my brain. That's one of
Speaker 1: the ones that reshaped my brains. And then I went
Speaker 1: back and watched Strangers Strangers in Paradise, which is a
Speaker 1: good movie too. Yeah, I have been listening to a
Speaker 1: lot of Tom Waits again as someone who I used
Speaker 1: to love, who I didn't listen to for a little while,
Speaker 1: and I've picked it back up. And I was thinking
Speaker 1: about how distressed I was when you told me that
Speaker 1: David Reese had changed your mind about Tom Waits, and
Speaker 1: I hope that didn't stick. Well, No, I still love
Speaker 1: Tom Waits. I mean David Reese's point, and he shares
Speaker 1: this point of view with a lot of people is
Speaker 1: that Tom Tom Waits is as big you know, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a maybe a talented musician, but he's also
Speaker 1: a cost player basically like he's gone through phases of
Speaker 1: various iterations of the sort of phony hobo act. Now
Speaker 1: I've met people who know Tom Waits and they say,
Speaker 1: not an act. He's just a genuinely eccentric guy, which
Speaker 1: I trust and believe. But yeah, you you you know
Speaker 1: you you you. He went through a beat like a
Speaker 1: beat nick phase into this sort of like screaming hobo
Speaker 1: noise phase. He was a great reinventor, but there's no
Speaker 1: question that his music is theatrical and performative. That he's
Speaker 1: playing characters as opposed to what a lot what a
Speaker 1: lot of white dudes think singers, songwriters and rock musicians
Speaker 1: should be, which is sincere, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like stripped down, you're just seeing the raw meat, whereas
Speaker 1: Tom Waits you're like sometimes and sometimes uh and when
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes someone shows you something in a fresh
Speaker 1: way and you can't unsee what they've shown you. But
Speaker 1: I'll take Tom Waits. I'll take Tom Waits no offense.
Speaker 1: I'll take Tom Waits's Jersey Girl over Bruce Springsteen's Jersey
Speaker 1: Girl any day. And you know, Bruce, Bruce Springsteen is
Speaker 1: an incredible musician and person, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: a role, right. I don't think that people who I
Speaker 1: mean maybe true Bruce fans, the casual Bruce fan. The
Speaker 1: image of Bruce had been at least for a long
Speaker 1: time being like this is just a regular guy playing, playing,
Speaker 1: playing from his heart as it was Tom Waits, which
Speaker 1: is all. And I sing into a count like I
Speaker 1: was always a you know, like give me the guy
Speaker 1: with a hat on his singing into a can like
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't need sincerity. Let me see
Speaker 1: this guy, let me see this guy wearing a washboard
Speaker 1: for a underwear or whatever. Like I liked I liked him. Well.
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because Bruce Springsteen, in this most recent
Speaker 1: Broadway performance, which was very uh Storytelly, was very upfront
Speaker 1: about the fact that he's a big phony and like
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm a rich guy. He's like, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a New Jersey street guy, right, and he
Speaker 1: is a performance you know, I'm playing a role as well. Well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think he came up with wearing his heart
Speaker 1: on his sleeve, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 1: had early success and he's been successful ever since. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who's a performer is going to be
Speaker 1: giving a performance, right And I can I can get
Speaker 1: why Bruce, by the way, I have all the respect
Speaker 1: in the world for his artistry and his you know,
Speaker 1: person ship. You know, I've he's incredible. But you know,
Speaker 1: I get why Bruce has a little bit of an
Speaker 1: imposter complex because he's he's been a wildly successful and
Speaker 1: internationally known and financially successful performer for almost all of
Speaker 1: his career. But he is singing songs from the point
Speaker 1: of view of you know, down and out folk. And
Speaker 1: that's a that's a circle to square. That's a hard
Speaker 1: circle to square for any successful performer. And you know,
Speaker 1: particularly it's like, you know, all of all of the
Speaker 1: all of the you know, sort of comedy purists who
Speaker 1: are out there yelling at comedians for being, you know,
Speaker 1: not being honest and raw. I'm like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're honest and raw quote unquote. Comedy heroes are
Speaker 1: hiding something too. They're hiding the fact that they they
Speaker 1: rent porsches and then leave them at the and then
Speaker 1: don't bother to return them and then call and then
Speaker 1: call the rental desk from the airplane saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I left it on Sepulvida in the in the in
Speaker 1: and out, you know, parking lot, Go get it. You'll
Speaker 1: have to text me is who's that was? Because that
Speaker 1: sounds way too real. That's that's a real story. That's
Speaker 1: a real story, like you know there Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but Bruce, like everybody, you're perform Everyone is a performer
Speaker 1: as a performer, that's the way it goes. So yeah,
Speaker 1: But and I love Tom I love Tom Waits, but
Speaker 1: like Tom Waits, particularly a lot of the early stuff
Speaker 1: that my mind melted with when I was in my
Speaker 1: late teens early twenties. To me, it's now it's like
Speaker 1: the Beatles, like I can't hear those songs again. I
Speaker 1: hear them, and I can every I've heard them. They're
Speaker 1: so brilliant, are so perfect, and every note in them
Speaker 1: is so ingrained into the folds of my brain. It's
Speaker 1: like there's no need to listen to it again. Trying
Speaker 1: discovering anything new, all right, John number six, a movie
Speaker 1: from Gus fans Aunt called My Own Private Idaho never
Speaker 1: saw it. I never saw it, but may I offer
Speaker 1: this There are a lot of games that you play
Speaker 1: around movie titles, like change you know what movie titles
Speaker 1: just naturally sound like you're like a reference to using
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'll just I'll leave operation Jumbo drop just there.
Speaker 1: You know that's what they're like. How do you how
Speaker 1: do you change a word or phrasing in the title
Speaker 1: of the movie to make it it's a porno version?
Speaker 1: And I remember distinctly an evening in the late nineties
Speaker 1: hanging out with my my New York friends, with whom
Speaker 1: many of them I'm still friends with. I think we're
Speaker 1: at sam Hats House. I met that guy and we're Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and we were we were playing
Speaker 1: this game, like change the title of a movie to
Speaker 1: make it a Is this inappropriate for your podcast? It's
Speaker 1: all appropriate. It's fine. Change change the title of the
Speaker 1: movie to make it a porn version. And Christine Connor,
Speaker 1: my old high school friends still our best friend, pipes
Speaker 1: in with how about my own private guy to blow
Speaker 1: not bad? It's hard. It's hard to get better than that?
Speaker 1: Sered in my brain forever, all right. John Number seven
Speaker 1: is a movie that came out, I believed last year
Speaker 1: or the year before, starring or featuring Patrick Stewart a
Speaker 1: little movie about Neo Nazis called a green Room green Room.
Speaker 1: I saw it late at night, good movie, probably probably
Speaker 1: with the Martini and my and I think I could
Speaker 1: probably easily watch it again and not know what happened
Speaker 1: because my mind erased it. It was too late at night.
Speaker 1: My mind racist the tapes at Midnight U eight. I
Speaker 1: will say, well, I'll say this about Gus van ZANDT.
Speaker 1: I was recently rethinking. I'm thinking about rewatching Midnight Cowboy,
Speaker 1: which is a kind of a forgotten, showerful indie movie
Speaker 1: starting um, Matt Dylan, Oh no, no, drug Store Cowboy.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, drug Store Cowboy. Right, Midnight Cowboys also a
Speaker 1: great movie. Yeah, Drugstore Cowboys excellent. Drug Store Cowboy is
Speaker 1: I think one of those movies that just kind of
Speaker 1: disappeared from film nerds minds to a certain degree, like
Speaker 1: it's not talked about a disgust. Maybe it doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: to be. I haven't really, I haven't relived it since
Speaker 1: I saw it. Yeah, Young Steve's on, Kelly Lynch, Kelly Lynch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Williams Burrows, isn't it. Yeah, that's right. I remember it
Speaker 1: very very well and um and yet it it slips
Speaker 1: from the mind such that I referred to it as
Speaker 1: Midnight Midnight Cowboy instead of drug store cowboy. I'm walking here. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm stealing lauded over yere, Hey, don't put a
Speaker 1: hat on a bed over here. Come, I'm going through
Speaker 1: the tramps. I'm into the drug store to steals the
Speaker 1: d lauded over. Yeah, that's right. Hat on the bed
Speaker 1: was bad luck, right, hat on the bed? Don't put
Speaker 1: a hat on the bed, all right? John Number eight
Speaker 1: a little movie from Todd Haynes about Julianne Moore losing
Speaker 1: her mind. Yes see, I thought you were gonna be
Speaker 1: talking about indie movies like from the past century or
Speaker 1: this century? Is I'm gonna see all the ones in
Speaker 1: the nineties were the same age are close to it?
Speaker 1: All the ones in the nineties I'm gonna have seen.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, safe, I saw that one. That might
Speaker 1: be the only Todd Agins that I've seen. Seriously, you've
Speaker 1: never seen Far from Heaven? So which one is that?
Speaker 1: Which was that one? Again? Far from Heaven? Was the
Speaker 1: one again with Julianne Moore in uh um, Dennis QUAIDH Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that was great gold mine.
Speaker 1: I never saw it, all right, I figured, yes, I
Speaker 1: saw a say I saw a safe all right. Here's
Speaker 1: an older one. Number nine, a movie from John Cassavetti's
Speaker 1: called The Killing of a Chinese Bookie. No, I never
Speaker 1: saw it. Put that on the no column. Okay, great movie, right,
Speaker 1: I'll put it in my think about column. I think
Speaker 1: I'll put it on. Put it in my my little
Speaker 1: ongoing list in my computer. That says Chuck's homework for me.
Speaker 1: Number ten a movie from director John Sales about a
Speaker 1: group of coal miners Mattajuan or made a one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's Mattajuan. I'm not positive though. It's named
Speaker 1: for a town I think in Pennsylvania. But I've never
Speaker 1: seen that particular movie. Or maybe I did. Maybe I did.
Speaker 1: Entering some seven. Chris Cooper's in it, I think is
Speaker 1: in it. He's the most of his movies. No, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the Wikipedia right now. I'm okay, now yeah,
Speaker 1: um uh yeah. This was in my wheel eyes. I
Speaker 1: would have been sixteen at this time. This was my
Speaker 1: wheel eyes. But I probably would have rolled it on
Speaker 1: VHS because I was such a pretentious art house nerd.
Speaker 1: So yes column or no column? I mean, you got
Speaker 1: to be pretty sure. I think it's a maybe. I
Speaker 1: have a very vague feeling of having seen it. There
Speaker 1: is no maybe column. So all right, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know then probably not all right. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: take credit for watching it unless i'm sure sure. Mary
Speaker 1: Mary McDonald sarcerlat because Mary McDonald wasn't it. Number eleven
Speaker 1: a wonderful little romantic indie film from a few years
Speaker 1: ago shot in Athens, Georgia, called The Spectacular. Now, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this movie. See here we go.
Speaker 1: Great movie about young love, A great movie about young
Speaker 1: who's in it? What's the deal? Who was in it?
Speaker 1: Is the young lady I can't remember her name that
Speaker 1: was in The Descendants that played Clooney's oldest daughter. Uh uh,
Speaker 1: what's her name? What is the name of the movie?
Speaker 1: The Spectacular? Now, he's Spectacular? Now? Yeah, the guy from
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not ashamed to just look it up.
Speaker 1: I think Miles Teller was the lead. Miles Teller, Bree Larson,
Speaker 1: Bob Odin kirk Burialism with Winstead, Jennifer, Jason Lee, Kyle Chandler,
Speaker 1: Shyleene Woodley. Yeah, that's her, Shylen Woodley, that's who. It is.
Speaker 1: Really really good movie, quite a cast shot in Athens, Georgia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very very good movie. All right. Put that on the list.
Speaker 1: The score right now, John is six to five six
Speaker 1: yas Oh, I didn't realize that. I was What happens
Speaker 1: if I lose against myself? Nothing, we just like to
Speaker 1: keep score. Uh. Number twelve, wonderful little movie from last
Speaker 1: year from written and director. The director is James Pond
Speaker 1: Sould and it says that he went to Yale University,
Speaker 1: so I should get a screener from Skull and Bones
Speaker 1: for that. Oh, that's right, that's your old high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my old high school. All right. Go on a movie
Speaker 1: from writer and director Bo Burnham that was just lovely
Speaker 1: called Eighth Grade. No I have. I didn't see that,
Speaker 1: and you know why I was worried that that movie
Speaker 1: was going to crush me flat. It's pretty crushing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, not like sad, but just real for someone
Speaker 1: who's got a high school daughter. Yeah, yeah, as a
Speaker 1: as a parent of teenagers, like the same same reason
Speaker 1: I couldn't see Ladybird yet. I will see them both.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like like I could just tell
Speaker 1: it was going to be a beautiful, great movie that
Speaker 1: was just gonna hollow me out emotionally. Not not sad,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It just be like too much,
Speaker 1: too much to take in. Yeah, you need to see Ladybird,
Speaker 1: though I know I need to see lay Bird. I
Speaker 1: got Look, I got a lot of Chuck Brian homework.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of holes. So Number thirteen a
Speaker 1: movie from director of Harmony Corinne Gummo. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: see that either. No, I did not see it. I
Speaker 1: did not see it because I did not see kids.
Speaker 1: As I saw the trailer. I saw the trailer for kids,
Speaker 1: and I was, so, you know, I'm a good kid.
Speaker 1: I'm not a bad kid. They scared you, didn't they
Speaker 1: Those kids scared me. Those bad kids, those bad kids.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to give I don't
Speaker 1: want to Like I knew that they were actors, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to give my money
Speaker 1: to those bad kids. Harmony Coryn used to live above
Speaker 1: the restaurants Savoy. Uh. It was this weird situation where
Speaker 1: his apartment door was basically in the upstairs dining room
Speaker 1: of this restaurant, so you would see him and there's
Speaker 1: a there's a bar upstairs, and he would just sort
Speaker 1: of wanted through the bar to go home. It was
Speaker 1: a very weird New York thing. Coumo did not appeal
Speaker 1: to me. I had no interest to kids was great,
Speaker 1: but Gumo just looked to ross. He directed Spring Breakers, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did never. I never saw that. I heard it
Speaker 1: was pretty good. I liked it. It was I think
Speaker 1: that might be the only movie of his that I
Speaker 1: have seen. Okay, because I couldn't see I couldn't see
Speaker 1: his movie because I'm a good kid and he was
Speaker 1: my age or a little bit younger, and I just
Speaker 1: it always rubbed me the wrong way when people my
Speaker 1: age we're sort of plucked from obscurity and called geniuses
Speaker 1: and I and I wasn't. I wanted to get plucked,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of I can't say that I was into uh yeah, alright, anyway, alright,
Speaker 1: so this movie I have a feeling you have probably
Speaker 1: seen because it is about you in some ways. With Stillman,
Speaker 1: movie called a Metropolitan Yeah, I saw Metropolitan. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: what Stillman? I didn't have what Stillman was more up
Speaker 1: my alley. I figured that. Yeah, yeah, smarty, smart, smarty pants,
Speaker 1: good kids trying to be bad kids. It's tied up
Speaker 1: John seven to seven. Yeah, that feels fair. Number Tidebreaker. No,
Speaker 1: well we go through twenty Okay, I better I better
Speaker 1: talk less about No, that's right. Number four, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Number fift, Sorry, we'll cut it all anyway. A movie
Speaker 1: he called it, two Lane Blacktop. Is that a David
Speaker 1: Lynch movie? No, it is not. It is a movie
Speaker 1: sort of the original car Chase movie. Uh, starring two singers.
Speaker 1: It starred I think Dennis Wilson and James Taylor. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: how about that? Yeah, I didn't know. I never knew
Speaker 1: that James Taylor had ever been in a movie. Alright,
Speaker 1: this this one I'm happy to put on my happy
Speaker 1: to put on my homework sheet, all right. Dennis Wilson,
Speaker 1: of course, famous housemate of Charles Manson from It for
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys. That's right, Charles Manson. He took Charles
Speaker 1: Manson in. He's like, why don't you cut? He's a
Speaker 1: good judge character. He's like, hey, you seem cool. We're talking.
Speaker 1: We like, we like to talk about songs together. Come
Speaker 1: live in my house. And then Charles Manson moved all
Speaker 1: of his girlfriends in, and Dennis Wilson's like, yees, these
Speaker 1: people are cuckoo birds. And he just left. He left
Speaker 1: and he didn't come back. He gave them the house.
Speaker 1: He's like five others. Yeah, because he's he was a
Speaker 1: drum for the Beach Boys. I also want to shout
Speaker 1: out the great and very much underrated cult favorite album
Speaker 1: from Dennis Wilson called Pacific Ocean Blue from Seven Chuck.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear a really moving recounting of
Speaker 1: that phase of Dennis Wilson's life and his friendship with
Speaker 1: Charles Manson. And if you haven't listened to it already,
Speaker 1: it's a few years old now, but listen to Karina
Speaker 1: Longworth's sequence of You Must Remember This podcast. That's a
Speaker 1: great shot about Manson in Hollywood. It's I think it's
Speaker 1: thirteen twelve episodes, twelve or thirteen episodes, just talking about
Speaker 1: not just the history of the Charles Manson, the Manson
Speaker 1: family and the various people that got ensnared in his
Speaker 1: web of acquaintances and victims, but also what was going
Speaker 1: on in Hollywood at the time that made it possible
Speaker 1: for Charles Manson to meet Dennis Wilson and major film
Speaker 1: producers and and you know, sort of entrenched himself in
Speaker 1: this world. It's a really as a movie person, you
Speaker 1: would really, I mean, obviously you must remember this as
Speaker 1: an incredible podcast about movie history, Hollywood history specifically, but
Speaker 1: that sequence is like I always say that those thirteen
Speaker 1: episodes are one of the best books I've ever read,
Speaker 1: even though you don't read it, like you just try
Speaker 1: to get her on Movie Crush and it did not happen.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try again. Yeah, I try again. She's
Speaker 1: been you know, she's busy, but her thing about Dennis
Speaker 1: Wilson and particularly Pacific Blue is really amazing. You dig it,
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, it's a great album. Number sixteen movie
Speaker 1: from Adam Igoyan from called The Adjuster. This was playing
Speaker 1: at the Coolidge Corner Movie Theater when I was working there.
Speaker 1: I had a feeling that's why I picked it, and
Speaker 1: it has that. I don't think that I ended up
Speaker 1: seeing it. What were the other Adam mcgoyan movies. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen at least one he did. Uh,
Speaker 1: the ones from back then when he was doing kind
Speaker 1: of weird art art house type movies. Um, let me
Speaker 1: see here the Adjuster and I started. This started a
Speaker 1: lot is colodious. I remember that. I have to say
Speaker 1: I probably didn't. I probably didn't see it. I worked it,
Speaker 1: I ripped tickets. I definitely saw the end credits several times.
Speaker 1: Exotica was one of the big ones. The Sweet Hereafter
Speaker 1: was a big one. Those were some of his earlier films.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, the Adjuster, he's kind of yeah Canadian guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good good movie. Weird, strange movie about an insurance adjuster. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: missed it, missed it? I gotta say, all right, I
Speaker 1: think I counted that as a no. Yeah, number seventeen
Speaker 1: a movie that I have a feeling you've seen from
Speaker 1: director and writer how hardly called a Surviving Desire? Nope,
Speaker 1: what hardly? No, I never really got into how hardly
Speaker 1: though I worked with him. Really he directed. He directed
Speaker 1: an episode of red Oaks that I was in that
Speaker 1: was incredible, because I want to check Suriving Desire. No,
Speaker 1: I never saw Surviving Desire was great. Um, because so
Speaker 1: I I worked on a couple of episodes of the
Speaker 1: second season. I believe it was of red Oaks on Amazon,
Speaker 1: which is a great funny, sweet moody with an incredible
Speaker 1: performance by Paul Riser in it, um as well as
Speaker 1: my my friend Ennis Esma as a tennis club pro.
Speaker 1: But it's basically like a combination of Dazed and Confused
Speaker 1: and uh, what's the famous Ted night golfing? Right, So
Speaker 1: the combination of Caddyshack and Dazed and Confused. It's like eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's set. It a said it a tennis club in
Speaker 1: the eighties called red Oaks, and it's sort of a
Speaker 1: sweet coming of age story. Um. The main character, let
Speaker 1: me you know what I'm talking about here when I
Speaker 1: talk about these I haven't ever heard of that. I
Speaker 1: gotta check that out. Red Oaks. Yeah, it's great. It was.
Speaker 1: It was created by Joe Gengemi and Gregory Jacobs and
Speaker 1: the main characters Craig Roberts, the actor Craig Roberts, who
Speaker 1: who was in Rich Diawatday is great coming of age
Speaker 1: movie Submarine if you haven't seen that. Um. But so
Speaker 1: it's like Craig robers is young aspiring filmmaker who spends
Speaker 1: the summer making a little bit of money teaching tennis
Speaker 1: at this ritzy uh you know country club called Red
Speaker 1: Oaks in New Jersey in the eighties. So it's a
Speaker 1: period piece. It's it's really really funny, like his parents
Speaker 1: are played by Richard Kind and Jennifer Gray. Paul Riser
Speaker 1: plays the husband of his girlfriend. He's got all these
Speaker 1: great and Ennis Esmer plays the tennis pro and Ennis
Speaker 1: is If you don't know Ennis, check him out. He's
Speaker 1: an incredibly funny actor. But um, yeah, and I had
Speaker 1: I had this little recurring role as the manager of
Speaker 1: a public access cable station, and it was incredible because
Speaker 1: I got to meet all of these actors that I,
Speaker 1: you know, loved and admired, and they brought back they
Speaker 1: and they brought in tons of independent you know directors,
Speaker 1: particularly from the eighties. Yeah, uh to direct episodes. And
Speaker 1: I got to work with Hal Hardly. I got to
Speaker 1: work with Amy Heckerling. That was incredible, she was so
Speaker 1: amazing direct Gregor Rocky directed some too, That's a great
Speaker 1: work with I worked with Gregor Rocky. It was you know,
Speaker 1: for a for you know, a person who saw maybe
Speaker 1: fifty of the indie movies. I guess how's my how's
Speaker 1: my rating now? Or would you say you gotta sweep
Speaker 1: the last three to get to okay? Well, in any case,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll sweep the last three David Gordon Green. It
Speaker 1: was just an incredible lineup of in front of and
Speaker 1: behind the camera, and the show was terrific. And you know,
Speaker 1: they did a third season without me, but you know,
Speaker 1: there you go. That's what happens, all right. Number eighteen
Speaker 1: John a movie from I have the feeling you are
Speaker 1: not going to sweep these. A movie from two thousand
Speaker 1: fifteen called Dope. No. Did not see it, different kind
Speaker 1: of coming of age period piece, said in the early nineties. Yes,
Speaker 1: very wonderful movie. A lot of these are coming of
Speaker 1: age now that I'm looking at it. Number nineteen a
Speaker 1: movie that was also sort of a musical or music
Speaker 1: influenced called Once No. I didn't see it, even though
Speaker 1: Sarah Reid told me to, and I take her homework
Speaker 1: very seriously too, failed to see it. I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be in Ireland. That's about Irish musicians, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be in Ireland for the first
Speaker 1: time in my life last week. Obviously that trip got canceled. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: and finally, just we've got to finish these, even though
Speaker 1: you will not reach a wonderful movie called Sing Street. No,
Speaker 1: do you know that movie? No? Why would come on
Speaker 1: Sing Street? Look it up? It's right, it's right two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen musical coming of age drama film. Yeah, really good,
Speaker 1: said in Dublin. Pitch me on it, pitch me on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ireland in the eighties. Uh, coming of age story. It's
Speaker 1: really really wonderful. You would love it. When was the
Speaker 1: last time you saw the commitments speaking of oh jeez,
Speaker 1: musical Irish coming of age, I haven't seen it since then.
Speaker 1: I have not seen it since then either, And as
Speaker 1: we were planning this family trip to Ireland, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's take a look at this again. I'm getting goosebumps
Speaker 1: just thinking about it. It's a gorgeous movie, completely, completely, Now,
Speaker 1: however you may feel about the cultural appropriation of white
Speaker 1: North dubbed, white working class North Dubliners singing soul songs,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's it's done with so much
Speaker 1: love and the movie is just gorgeous. It's gorgeous movie.
Speaker 1: Alan Parker, director of that very underrated director. I think too.
Speaker 1: It's and then and you know, it became such a
Speaker 1: cliche to put that soundtrack on in the nineties, but
Speaker 1: you know, like the guy, the actor who plays Deco,
Speaker 1: the lead singer, Try Little Tenderness. Yeah, they were all that,
Speaker 1: they were all playing their music. It was for real
Speaker 1: and his his just watching this. I love a heist
Speaker 1: movie or the band Getting Together movie? Me too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite heist movie? And if it's not Sexy Beast,
Speaker 1: and then the answer is wrong, Sexy Beast. That movie
Speaker 1: was so fucking great. That was such a random movie
Speaker 1: that I wandered into at the at the Theater and
Speaker 1: Union Square with John Sellers one afternoon, long before we
Speaker 1: had children or just just around the time, and uh,
Speaker 1: we're like, let's see this thing. And it was that's
Speaker 1: such a great, great movie with Ian McShane and obviously
Speaker 1: Ben Kingsley and Ray Winston. Yeah, boyl boy, what a
Speaker 1: delight it was. Yeah. That movie. Um, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: fucking yes. That movie had one of the more original
Speaker 1: um vault break in scenes that I've ever seen. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember they did it underwater. They fledded. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great. I gotta rewatch that. Yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: and that's on the list for me to rewatch. All right, John,
Speaker 1: that's all the time we have for episode one. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna stick around and do another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can. I can go all the way up until
Speaker 1: just a little bit before two pm. Fantastic. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap for now. Thank you for listening, everybody, and uh,
Speaker 1: stay safe and be kind to one another, and we'll
Speaker 1: see you next week. What was my final What was
Speaker 1: my final final total? You started off pretty hot? Seven? Yes,
Speaker 1: is in thirteen knows? Yeah, but that's that's thirteen. That's
Speaker 1: thirteen movies that I get to watch now. Yeah, thirteen opportunities.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to look at it. That's right.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out of here and do another episode.
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