WEBVTT - Holy Hypocrites & CON-version Crooks w/ Tan France 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:12.000 Scam come from scamm Come. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:21.520 Rob's right, goddess, whats pop and congregation, it's your girl. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:25.319 Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess, back with another episode of 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.840 the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.400 practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.000 We will see along the way. But guess you already 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.080 know what I call y'all guests at this pet y'all 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.520 a our guests on the show as much as y'all 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.519 comment and send messages and dvms and emails, and I 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.960 appreciate that. Congregation, y'all know I'm very what, yes, excited, thrilled, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.159 elated for our first time guest today. You may have 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.360 seen him on Honorable Gaze where he alongside Rob Anderson 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.640 and Eric Sadenil Judge MESSI, Reddit Drama, and you certainly 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:04.360 have heard and seen him on Queer Eye, Next in Fashion, Deli, Boys, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.200 Heads will Roll, Princess Power, and so much more. Congregation, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:13.479 please welcome first timer and certainly hopefully not the last 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.360 ten friends to the show. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.440 Hi tan Oh, I love how are you? 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.080 I'm doing great? 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.119 God? That was a gorgeous intro. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.199 Thank you. We like to give the girls are flowers. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.720 Okay, and I've been watching you on TV forever, so 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.440 it's so lovely to chat with you in purse. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.160 I've got a feeling I joined TV when you were 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.919 three because that skin's making you look like you're a child. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.480 I don't know, I know you are, you very young. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.000 I've only been on TV for ten years, and you know. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.040 I'm not being on TV for ten years? 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.240 Is like I mean, when you started, when you were 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.200 a zigo, you know what I mean. They took you 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.440 out of the womb and they said this face television. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.000 Okay, so Tanna's a baby. True. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.880 If the audience is a seen you don't know what 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.160 I look like, just google it and you'll see that's 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.120 not true. I had a face for rayd Yo Radio. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:05.200 No, absolutely not. But we love the humility. We love 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.480 a little fake, humble moment. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:07.560 Okay. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.120 You know you're giving the girls hope that maybe one 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.640 day they'll have skin like tan. Okay, they'll have that full, 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:13.600 luscious head of hair. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.760 I will say this, I know my skin's tight of 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.880 forty three and it looks pretty darn good and now 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.520 got weirdly blonde hair, but it's a very full ahead 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.480 of her. So I know I've got that going for me. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.920 Yes and tan. This is also not a concerning blonde. 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.799 Sometimes, like where my homeboys will go blonde, I'd be like, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.080 it's something going on in your life, Like it's just 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.679 like a very wide no thing. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.960 In certain communities, if you see. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.880 Somebody down they're here bleach blode, you'd be like, what 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.600 happened to you? 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.600 Yeah, mine's a great blonde. Mine's like, was he naturally blonde? 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.320 The answer is no, South Asians are not naturally blonde. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.960 You are now okay, box pear box swear. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.720 It's like women with bangs, Like one of our homegirls 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.720 cuts their banks, We're like, what what did he do? 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.839 What did she do? What's going on? 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.760 I need you to know that straight girls will always 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.560 ask the gay friends. And let me tell you, the 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.880 gays have told you enough. Don't do it. They look 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.240 great for a little while, but you're gonna cry to 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.639 us when it's not looking good. When they've grown out. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.920 It's every like it's textbook three. 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.960 We're gonna do it anyway, insufferable. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.240 That's the one issue I think the gays have with 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:21.639 their female friends. We love our feet, I love my girls. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.240 I'm a girl's gay one hundred that you've got two 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.160 different kinds of gates. You got a gaye gain a 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.320 girl's game. I'm a girl's gay. But I will say 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.240 the one grive I have with my girls is stop 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.720 asking me about those damn banks, because you've learned your lesson, 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.480 or you should have learned your lesson. Our friend group 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.640 is big, and every one of you I've told don't 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.480 get banks, is you're gonna come crying to me in 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.240 six months time. You just start, I. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.480 Always say, girling our clipping banks. Now you don't have 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.800 to learn like we did back in the day. Okay, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.920 I'm on Real Housewives in New York with bangs that 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:51.839 I cut myself, looking like what I've been through. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.640 Okay, were you one of those one of those I 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.480 don't know, Internet like vine girls who caught their banks 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.480 and let scy you cut your bangs and you made 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.480 the mistake of doing it too short? 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.600 Okay, No, see, I learned from them. I learned from them. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.320 I was on the other end of the camera and 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.200 I was like, okay, so I gotta twist the hair 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.240 and I gotta bring it past my brows and cut 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:13.480 it here. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.520 Because when you curl it. It's gonna be like, well, bam. 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.000 Otherwise you're gonna get that one time beyond the head, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.320 that one bang that was like above her eyebrows. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:21.839 You know what, She could do it because it was 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.200 fashion on the streets. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.039 I don't know when people are gonna learn, like, have 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.320 we not seen enough of those videos to know? Why 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.720 are you pulling your hair down to banks? Also? Why 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:33.960 are you cutting your own banks? 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.000 Because I have a bang feeling? I can't have a 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:37.880 bang feeling tan. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:42.400 Okay, life, life gets hard, and sometimes a girl needs blinders. Okay, 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:45.760 she needs something right in front of her eyes. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.360 Well, you're looking at this bullshit. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.880 I need you bangs, you're saying right your Riyes, that's fine. 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.240 If they fr your rice, you're doing great. But if 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.080 they are closer to your natural nowline, then they should be. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.799 That is a problem. That is a deal breakup. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.440 You've now turned that into teenage hairs. They're not baby hairs, quite, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.000 They're not a dollar hair. They're teenage hairs that you 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.279 have on your forehead. Yes, oh it's rough, but you 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.320 know what, it's a right of passage. It's a right 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:16.080 of passage. And speaking of rights and passages. This is 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.840 a worst segue I've ever done. But on the show Tan, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.120 we love to get our guests opinions in the segment 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.040 that I call is it. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.080 A scam, a scame, or a real thing? 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.080 So I'm going to ask you about three different subjects 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.680 and you let me know if you feel like it's 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.880 a scam, which would be something that should absolutely be illegal. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.880 Or is is it a scame where it feels shammy? 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.720 Sometimes yeah, it's shady it sometimes it can work out, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:41.640 but it's shady. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.000 You know, it's like an alleyway. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.120 Maybe down you go down the alleyway and you do 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.920 get that faux firking bag in China sound, or maybe 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:49.120 you'll go down there you get hit in the head 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:49.839 with a lad pipe. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.279 You don't know, yep. 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.200 And then a real thing is something that we think 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.320 legitimately belongs in society. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.480 Great, okay, well we should see lawls. Yes, okay. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.440 My first one for you just to keep on the 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.479 skin because we were talking about this beautiful skin that 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:10.640 you have tip multi step skincare routines. Are there a 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.839 scam scheme or real things? So by that, I mean 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.920 like when you wash your face at night, you got 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.440 the toneer, the ret and now the serum, the vitamin seed, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:27.440 the water, moisturizer, you're using, wash you got the do 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.160 I seem too familiar with this. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.120 I've got a feeling that you're about to come for 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.360 me so hard because I am I am that festiv 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.040 that does all of that. And I don't think it's 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.440 a scam. I think it's what the last one, real one, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.840 Like everyone should be doing it. Why why are you 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.960 not doing If you're not doing a at least a 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.080 five step routine morning at night. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.159 Five, at least at least five, what are your five, tam? 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.000 What are your five? 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.960 Okay I'm talking about like, fuck me. Five is basic 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.880 wash your face, but wash your face. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.200 And washing cowns. I think everybody's a wash. 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.960 I know some dirty bitches that down't. So that has 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:09.480 to be on. Sorry, it has to be on. So 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:13.120 wash your face with some kind of cleanser and then 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:20.800 the basics, tona, serum, moisturizer, extra moisturize, you've got some 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.720 kind of peptad would be so nice. I mean, at 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.960 least a retinal and then your moisturize. So that's basic five. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.280 But then you've got those nights like twice a week 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.440 where you want to do a face mask, you want 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.240 to do an led red mask. Oh my gosh, what 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.800 else do I want to do? Sometimes I want to 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.640 do a lip plumper whilst I sleep and that lip 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.480 plumping mask on. There's so much shit that you could 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.200 do five basic. If you don't do the five basic 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.640 and you've got problem with skin, like, that's your problem, 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:49.400 not bye. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.360 Oh that's the word. Okay, I kind of skew into 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.000 it can be a scheme. Unfortunately, I could rat off 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.920 all those products because obviously I have them. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.200 Here's where it comes a little scheming to me. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.400 I have the red light mask, and I have the 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.160 collar that goes on your neck and your upper like 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:14.000 just sitties, just cities to keep them, you know, looking 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:18.600 as fresh as possible. And I have the one that 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:23.040 like the esthetician recommends it. But my issue is is 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.120 that every time I go and get a facial and 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.560 I leave with several products and at one point I 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.960 think I had like a twelve step skin carried too much. Yeah, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.240 it was too much and my skin started to react 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.480 and was like girl girl. And here's here's why I 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.080 think it might be a scheme. Tan though, like Tan, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.160 I love that you use these products. I use these 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.360 products too, But genetics has so much to do with 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.680 what your skin looks like. And I feel like people 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.440 with your type of skin are always the ones in 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.439 the commercials splashing water they face out the sink in 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.120 the whole bathroom with and then we all start thinking 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.920 we're gonna have skin like Tan if we buy the 0:08:58.960 --> 0:08:59.640 whole line. 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.840 And that's a little schemy. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.920 Okay, you know no, you're absolutely no. Okay, that's not 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.880 even just a bit skimmy. That's a bit scammy. Okay, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.640 if we're really going to work on the definition. Here's 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.959 my issue is if you're going for a facial, I 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.400 think the scam is getting you to buy those products 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.280 that you use at the facial because that facial shit 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.880 that they do, like when you go to somewhere nice 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.000 for a facial, they're not just using basic fucking products. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.839 They've got tools, like they've got like proper tools. Don't 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.199 tell me that I'll be able to keep this up 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.880 with these, as you said, twelve products at home. Get 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.240 the fuck out of here, bitch. I know you no, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.040 I know I can't. And so that's the scam. I 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.800 never buy the product from the facial place. I will 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.360 get the facial done and then I will still use 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.240 my products. My facial is just for like a spruce 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.679 before a big event. I can't do it maybe once 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.679 every three or four months. It's not a regular thing. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.599 And definitely don't fall for the scam of buy this 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.040 shit because you're going to be able to do it 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.640 at home. No, there's no way you're getting this look 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:02.040 at home. 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.520 Oh my gosh, I fully fell for that scam. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.599 I have a facial steamer like you name it. I 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.079 got it for the face. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.840 Bab Oh, you're crazy. Sorry, we should we should have 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.480 established that. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.800 I'm We didn't tell you that in the pre interview though, nobody. 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.160 Oh ship, yeah yeah, I can't help crazy. Like I 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:40.720 a therapist steam before to get out of it. Get 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.200 out of it. No, you you were scammed. I bet 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.679 that was expensive too, wasn't it. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.040 You know it was along with my LED red light 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.120 and everything else. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.400 Also, I think that LED red light might also be 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:55.079 a scum. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.440 You have to get the right one. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.520 There's some that don't have enough frequency to actually give 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:00.960 you the halogen boost. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.280 Oh you dropped the kool aid. Well done. I will 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.440 say that there are a lot of like derms like 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.200 demotologies on insta who will do the review of all 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.800 the shit that we used to say whether it's good 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.520 or not. They all do say the red light mask 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.439 is good. But you're right if you get the right one. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.360 I might not have the right one. I just wait 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.160 until some one gifted it, so it might not be 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:20.959 the best one. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.680 I mean, it might be good. It's for good, it's fine. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.520 I think it's one of those things that we think 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.480 is working because it's modern technology, but really isn't. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.199 It does sometimes feel a little bit like a placebo. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.959 But what I will say is that it involuntarily gives 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.720 me some relaxation time, because when I have that mask on, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.840 I look like Jason Boorhees and I have to just 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.080 like at least sit still for twenty minutes. So maybe 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.400 I'm just regulating my nervous system and pretending that my 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.520 skin is getting better from. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.880 Regulating your nervous system might be helping your skill. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.240 And it actually does stress Acne is real. Maybe that's 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.240 the whole scam of it all. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.360 That's it. So really you don't need that you should 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.360 to put in some kind of relaxation mode and you're 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.360 abs to be fine. Yeah, don't spend the money on 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.280 the red light mask. I don't think it makes that 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:07.040 much of difference. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.679 I don't either, but I will say, like, there's certain 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.199 things in your skincare routine that can help with your skin. 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.480 But also it is genetics, and it's also diet. Guys, Like, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:16.880 diet's a huge one for me. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:17.640 Gut health. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.200 I know you didn't ask the question, but I'm going 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:20.920 to tell you anyway. I didn't want you. I talk 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.760 a lot. I don't drink soda. I eat really healthy. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.839 I try not to eat as you chug your soda 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:35.440 well done water and I always have drunk a shocking 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.240 amount of water since I was a teenager. I have 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.400 really bad skin as a team, and so my mom 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.560 was like, drink a lot of water, start with the soda, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.520 stop with the fried food, and you'll be great. And 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.920 it's amazing what it does. So before you invest in 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.800 that red light mask that's going to cost you hundreds 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.679 of hundreds, maybe just put the diet coke away. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.120 Put the diet coke away, lay off the alcohol, and 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.720 get those good gut health foods. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.520 It's good for your mental health as well. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.160 Pickles, pickles, pickles. I know it's gonna sound so ludicrous, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.320 but a lot of pickles really good feod. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.800 Fermented foods can get you some more, rolog get you 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.199 some of the leafy greens. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.160 Booky. It's the reason why those Japanese kids are looking 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.760 so dumb, good like they eat so much fermented chip. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.400 Oh my god, we make like the Korean skin diet. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:20.760 Have they made it yet? 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.840 I know they haven't. But chick is bomb? Have you 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.520 been have you been sold? 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.920 Not? Yeah, but it's on my list. I want to 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:34.440 fry chicken there too, because black American soldiers introduced Korean 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.439 people to frying chicken during the war, and then Korean 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:42.400 people took that ship and ran with a Korean yeah 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:43.360 we are. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.520 I would love to join you in that, but I 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.280 don't eat meat. But I love that for you. I 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.520 love that for you. An you a bit, thank you 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.000 so much. I do like to watch people eat, so 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.480 I will happily watch you eat that food. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.760 And also I do like a mug pang. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:01.920 So I so your final boat multi SEPs skin care routine, 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:08.360 SA game okay, okay, light yeah, real thing. 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.880 Scheme, it's real thing. Slash scheme. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.320 I agree with you there, Okay, what about this one 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:19.200 scam schemeer real thing tan fast fashion slash dupes. So 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.040 what I mean by that is like when something comes out, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:23.720 you know, on a runway, or we see it at 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.720 a med or we see it on an actress, or 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.920 it's in a popular television show, and then a brand 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.360 like a Sheen or a team MoU remakes it, or 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:37.040 even a Steve Madden because Steve Madden loves designer, you know. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.640 So do we think that's a scam, a scheme or 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:40.320 a real thing? 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.040 I want to say scam. Well, my perspective is different 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:46.560 from yours. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:47.800 Okay, let me hear let me. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.920 Okay, we're married. I'm going to plead my case and 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.720 you can tell me whether you think it's a scam, scheme, morial. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:54.280 Okay. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.320 So I was a designer. I guess wants a designer 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.880 always a designer, of course this is And I used 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.840 to make women's wear and that's how I started my career. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.640 And I had brands that made women's wear, and I 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.040 would design something called private label where I would design 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.440 a full collection. Nordstrum target feby twenty one would come 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.080 and look at that collection and say, Okay, can you 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.640 make this Bras store in this color and this print 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.200 which I would have available? Yep, sure, and then I'm 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.720 gonna put your label in it. But then what I 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.280 found was a bunch of companies would then knock off 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.840 my product. So I was the designer, they would knock 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.280 off my product, and they would then sell it for 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.920 less and sell a hag of a lot more. Oh 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:37.760 as far as i'm because they that's a scam because 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:42.280 you're fucking with my money. Yeah, but you you fully 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.000 fucked with my money, Like the people aren't just buying 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.560 my shit now because mine's slightly more expensive than your 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.400 shitty quality version. And so I see it as a scam. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.120 But I think I only see it as a scam 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.920 because I was at the top of that pyramid. If 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.680 I were the san or the team or even the customer, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.920 I'd be like, now I'm getting a barg Like I'm 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.640 getting a deal. So that's the real one. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.840 Okay, I say, you're gonna give me your opinion, So 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:13.600 I agree with you about stealing from artists when it 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.680 comes to their like their intellectual property. And unfortunately it's 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.880 the wild wild West when it comes to like clothing 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.440 and in general, because like everything that's been made has 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.160 been made before, So making something that's kind of similar 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.000 to somebody else's work that it's more affordable and probably 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.160 extremely lower quality is not obviously not a new thing 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:37.560 and not technically illegal. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.440 Yeah, but when it. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.280 Comes to like hard working artists, like I remember the 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.680 big scandal about like Kim Kardashians, like or not Kim, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.760 but Kloyd Kardashian's clothing line had a lot of dupes 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:52.520 of smaller designers, but they had like physical receipts and 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.560 evidence of the company. I don't know if I knew 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.200 about this with the company Good American, like ordering things 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.000 from smaller designers and then you know, picking them apart 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.240 and then making them for their brand. So I don't 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.399 I don't agree with the intellectual property theft, and that 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.840 to me is definitely a scam. I lean towards scam 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.719 scheme because there have been so many times that I 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.600 was in a high in college or high school wearing 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.320 a Steve mattendup of a Manolo. I had no idea. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.880 I was like, oh, cute shoe, but I had no idea. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:26.240 Steve was like, oh, my beer LVMA, I. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.199 Agree with that. I don't think. I don't think you 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.639 the customer is ever the problem. Like they're not the scam. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.240 They're not the scam, but toll not. They're not even 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.280 the scheme. They're the real one. They want the thing 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.280 for less money. I absolutely agree that the customer is 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.919 the real one, but the company that's knocking off knocking 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.479 off the designer is the scam. It's a duo, and 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:47.840 I don't know if you ask for a duo, but 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.560 it's a fucking duo. Two things can be true. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.879 Two things can be true. I think even locked our 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.440 first duo. And I think that you are absolutely right, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.040 especially because I look at like a Steve Madden going 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.719 for like a high in corporation and giving something accessible 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.359 to the you know, the girls on the cul de 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:05.480 Sac who also want. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.720 To be fashion girl leies. You know the girls you 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.199 know in the apartment complexes. I'm in an apartment, you 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.920 know what I mean? We got that manches, so maybe 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.320 we're not buying the thirty thousand dollars booth. But you know, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.000 if Steve Mann got the same looking boot, I can 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.320 still give thirty thousand without spending that right, So scamming 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:22.080 up like that. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:23.680 That doesn't bother me because the rich. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.800 Company is still getting they're they're getting their consumers who 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.760 are not going to step foot and Steve Madden, you 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.560 know what I mean, it's a and vice versa. But 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.840 I think what you're talking about tan being a small 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.879 creator and then them taking from you. 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.439 Now, that's where it gets very scammy for me. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.480 And that's the most common Just so you know, that 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.200 is the most people, whether they're taking from the small 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.000 crazy because they're like, no one knows this bitch who cares? No, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.920 that's not lucky. Yeah, that's a pictures lay. Also what 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:49.760 I'm also going to position this, Sorry, this is not 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.000 meant to be a PSA, but I will say we 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.879