1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Truth with Li Sabooth, where we cut 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: through the noise to get to the heart of the 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: issues that matter to you. Today, we're joined by Paul Morrow, 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: my friend and colleague from Fox News. He's also retired 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: NYPD inspector, attorney and legal analyst. We're going to cover 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Maduro's capture, the Minnesota fraud scandal, and what's percolating in 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Iran right now, specifically exploring what role of the United 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: States and Israel might be playing in the uprisings happening there. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: But we'll dig into Meduro's capture, including what Democrats were 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: talking about all this international law stuff. Did President Trump 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: follow the letter of the law? What is international law? 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Also on Minnesota, will we see people like the Attorney 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: General Keith Ellison and handcuffs all lost? 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Paul Morrow, stay tuned. Paul. It's great to have you 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: back on the show. 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: Always love being on with you, especially when we get 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: to do out number together. So appreciate you coming on 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure, you know. 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: So, Paul, we're talking a little bit on the couch 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: and we're it's funny because it's like Democrats wanted President 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Trump to go get Maduro, and then the Biden administration 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: even up the ante on the bounty on Meduro's head, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: the twenty five million. But then now that he's gotten Madurero, 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: it's a problem in the way that he did it. 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: So it's a little hard to keep trying. All it's like, 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: is it good? Is it bad? 28 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: I think they're trying to figure out their angle, But 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them are saying, well, he didn't follow 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: international law and what. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: He did was illegal. 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Break down that angle for us, like, is what he 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: did legal? 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Legal? You know, kind of what do you make of 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: some of these arguments? 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: So international law is something all a canard. It really 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: doesn't exist. They put in these, you know, these structures 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: that supposedly are going to govern how nations deal with 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: each other, and some of them are legit. There is 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: a system called the less system mutual Legal Assistant treaty 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: between nations. Those work because those are extradition treaties. But 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: in terms of there being an overriding international law that 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: governs the criminal conduct of the earth, let's just be frank, 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't really exist. And where it does exist, to 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: any extent, it's unenforceable because who's going to enforce it. 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: The UN there's some of the primary culprits, so nobody 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: goes to them for this kind of stuff, And it 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: really is a canard. So the Democrats don't seem to 49 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: understand how to handle this. They're actually are, apparently what 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: I'm hearing behind the scenes, bumping into each other trying 51 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: to figure out how to play this one, because the 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: numbers on it in terms of approval are very high. 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, they have owned this issue of 54 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: Maduro in the past, talking about how bad a guy 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: he is and putting out an award. Well, if the 56 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: reward for this guy was twenty five million dollars, what 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: did they think was going to happen? Somebody was going 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: to extradite him, that he was going to self present 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: at the US embassy and say, okay, give the award. 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: Of course you had to go grab him. There's all 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: no other way to do it. So what it comes 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: down to, really the distinction is whether this was a 63 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: military action or whether this was a law enforcement action. 64 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: You can make that distinction, and from my perspective and 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: perspective of I think most attorneys, because he was indicted 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: twice over because This was not a situation where we 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: went in occupied Corracus, decided to take the country over 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: with hundreds of thousands or ten thousand troops on the 69 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: ground and then grab them. Because we went in surgically, 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: grabbed them and removed him, it can be characterized as 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: a police action under the auspices of not only the 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: indictment and the extra territoriality of American law has been 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: proven and tested thousand times over. We grab people who 74 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: are doing us harm from outside of America all the time. 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: Look at the War on Terror, look at some of 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: the knocko stuff that goes on south the ball border 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: where the guy's not ahead of state. So this was 78 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: a police action under law, that's all it is. What 79 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: happens now though relative to Venezuela gets us into Dice 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: Year territory. But because this was done the way it 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: was done surgically, we pulled him out. Now we're going 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: to try him. You know, he's not in the military tribunal. 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: He's going in the Southern District. That characterizes all of 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: this as a law enforcement matter, and under Article two 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: that is the president's auspices. 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: You know what sort of you know, you'll get some 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court precedent like the capture of Noaega and ninety. 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, what sort of legal justifications could the Trump 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: administration use for this kind of adoption abduction style operation 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: or what kind of legal challenges do you think might 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: come up. 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, there's going to be a couple of legal challenges. 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: First of all, as you just said, the international law angle, 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: and they'll come up with various sort of promulgations that 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: were put out by the UN that people signed on to, 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: maybe you know, the Geneva Compact and things like that. 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: That's all wind. The immunity, the sovereign immunity issue is 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: almost certainly going to come up, and that is to say, 99 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: in the same way that Donald Trump claimed and achieved 100 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: immunity relative to let's say, the Alvin braggcase, which has 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 3: died on the bide, as has the Jack Smith case. 102 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: Because as the president he has immunity, they can claim 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: the same thing for Maduro as the notional head of 104 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: state in Venezuela. The problem there, the main problem is 105 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: that he's not legitimate because he was twice elected under 106 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: fraudulent circumstances and in fact America did not recognize him 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: as the legitimate ruler of Venezuela, and in fact, the 108 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: Democrats are on board with that characterization. So it's going 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: to be very hard politically to make the case that 110 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: he should have enjoyed immunity, and it is going to 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: be very hard to make that case legally. And even 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: if you do accept the fact that he was the 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: legitimate head of Venezuela. You know, it's funny how international law, 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: when the Left wants to invoke it, seems to only 115 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: go one way. If we could rely on international law, 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: then you would have to say, okay, well, then where 117 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: is the international law to enforce against the fact that 118 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: president of Venezuela was the head of a narcotics cartel 119 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: with shipping not only vast amounts of narcotics to America 120 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: and Europe, some of which is likely going to be 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: deadly fentanyl, which is poison right because it's being put 122 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: into other drugs, so those aren't overdoses, those are poison deaths. 123 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: But then also he sent us all as gang members, 124 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: a lot of people reportedly from his insane asylums, all 125 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. All that would violate international law 126 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: as well, But yet nobody says boom, International law only 127 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: seems to be invoked against America. You'll hear about it 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: in the case against Maduro inside the courtroom. Unless this 129 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: judge has real TDS, which we do see here in 130 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: New York unfortunately, unless he really loses his bearings. The 131 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: Noriega case actually ran a lot of the traps on 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: this already. They can try to distinguish it. I don't 133 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: think it's going to be successful. And at the end 134 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: of the day, Noriega is going to get locked up 135 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: unless he please, and he's got some cards to play. 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: But if he manages to cut a deal, that's the 137 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: only way I see him avoiding dying in prison. 138 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Why try this in New York instead of like Florida incident? 139 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. So the DNA of this 140 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: case goes back a number of years. People don't realize 141 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: this isn't on. You open these cases sometimes and they 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: go on forever. Now full disclosure. I had a window 143 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: into the case about eight years ago, I would say, roughly, 144 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more a little less when it 145 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: crossed over into the hez Bola world. Because Maduro was 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: thick as thieves with Hezbolah. He had a vice president 147 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: Javez did a named Tarik Alasami, and then on the 148 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 3: Maduro he was I think the head of intel first 149 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: he definitely had that hat, and then he was the 150 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: head of their oil industry. He ultimately ran a foul 151 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: of Maduro, and the only way you could run a 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: foul of Maduro is by stealing more than he does, 153 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: so he must have been caught stealing from Maduro. Maduro 154 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: locked him up. I figured he was dead. But if 155 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: you've tweaked it the fact that Tarik Aliasami is not 156 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: exactly a Latin American name, you're right. He was their 157 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: conduit to the Middle East, and specifically to the Shia 158 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: Middle East, which has all of the hezbola and I 159 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: ran overtones to it. He was the guy that was 160 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: providing Venezuelan passports to a lot of the narco traffickers. 161 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: So the point is that that case has been going 162 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: on for a long time out of New York EA case, 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: and it just continued to grow. When Chavez died and 164 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 3: Meduro took over, the case didn't go away. It was 165 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: all the same characters, it was just a different leader. Ultimately, 166 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: that whole indictment came to fruition about five years ago 167 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, when Maduro was indicted by Dea and 168 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: as were his nephews who are in custody. That was 169 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: the initial indictment. The current indictment is actually a superseding indictment. 170 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: That is to say, it's a follow on indictment to 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: the original one from twenty twenty that captures now Maduro, 172 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: his wife, his son, and a couple of other pieces. 173 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: So that case, because it always resided in New York, 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: it's just one of those things where it's in the bureaucracy, 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: it stays here. To move it is a real headache. 176 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: You'd have to take all of these people who've been 177 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: working on the case and say hey, we're relocating you 178 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: Dea and prosecutors down to Florida. That's expensive. People can't move, 179 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: and to just transfer the case, you lose all that 180 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: institutional knowledge. You got to start over. They're not going 181 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: to do that. So it's one of those things where 182 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: it's in New York because it's been in New York, 183 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: and that's where it looks like it's going to stay. 184 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: We've got more with Paul Morrow on the other side, 185 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: stay with us. 186 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: So we've exercised your your legal hat and your law 187 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: enforcement hat. 188 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: I want you to put your counter terrorism in foreign 189 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: policy hat on for a minute. What message does this 190 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: send to the rest of the world, Because to me, 191 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: President Trump is demonstrating the rest of the world that 192 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: he's got a big parastomes on it because. 193 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: Like he really does. You said that yesterday on the couch, 194 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you caught it. I was 195 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: suppressing a laugh because when you said that, and then 196 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: you said like that, and I show you catch yourself, like, 197 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: oh can I say that? I was like, I was funny, Lisa. 198 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there thinking myself, I'm glad she said that 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: and not me. But in any case, I didn't like 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: that one I did. I did. You're right, you understand right? 201 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I think you're right over to target. 202 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: To use an apt metaphor, I think that this is 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: a message to a certainly to the Caribbean basin and 204 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: to South America. Our HEMI is that you know, we're 205 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: tired of getting piled on. You know, we're not here 206 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: to be a pinata for every two bit besket case 207 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: of a nation who wants to blame us for every 208 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: rainy day and I'm sorry to sound jinguistic, but that's 209 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 3: I think the perspective of a lot of Americans these days. 210 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: The leftist media, which is the media globally, has really 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: created that narrative. And it's one of the real strengths 212 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump that he's willing to put his chin 213 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: out and say, enough of this stuff. We're not the 214 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: big guy. We would a light of the world post 215 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: war World War two, and we remain so. And as 216 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: a reason, there is a line thousands of miles long 217 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: to get into this country and not to flee from it. 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: So the message, I think is, I know they're calling 219 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: it to don Roe doctrine, the Monroe doctrine, but it's 220 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: actually a more of a continuation of the Roosevelt corollary 221 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: from nineteen oh four, where Roosevelt said, Okay, I get 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: the Monroe doctrine, but I'm going to strengthen it. If 223 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: you are going to mess around in our hemisphere, we 224 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: are going to take and he used this term police action. 225 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: So this is very much an outgrowth of the Roosevelt corollary. 226 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: I think a better term for this is that it's 227 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: the Trump corollary, and he's saying I am going to 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: revivify to the Roosevelt corollary. He's actually very Rooseveltian Donald Trump. 229 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: I think people missed that connection, But in any case, 230 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: it was a different era, and I think that's why 231 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: it's just some people he comes across as shocking and 232 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: his boldness, because Roosevelt was quite a bold guy as well. 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: But I think he's putting everybody on notice that we're 234 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: no longer here to be the pinata. And I think 235 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: what you're going to see as a result is a 236 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: re scrambling in South America and Central America, the Caribbean 237 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: basis to get on our side because they're waking up 238 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: to the fact that we are not going to take 239 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: this anymore and you're better off being with the winner. 240 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: And so all of a sudden you see the Columbian 241 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: president trying to talk in a more conciliatory way. You 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: don't get a peep out of Cuba because they don't 243 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: really have much of a functioning governor. At least I 244 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: to get flipping Cuba into a free nation again, I 245 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: wouldn't be Actually he's never really been free, but maybe 246 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: for the first time or free nation. But I wouldn't 247 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: be shocked and I hope you're sitting down. I wouldn't 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: be shocked if Cuba ends up part of Florida sometime 249 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 3: over the next three years. I'm not even kidding you, 250 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: because I've spoken to Cubans. I have some pretty good 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: sourcing in that area, and they tell me that if 252 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: you put a referendum out to the Cubans and said 253 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: you want to join America as a piece of Florida, 254 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: it would overwhelmingly pass. Now, these are people who are 255 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 3: inclined that way, so you got to take it a 256 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 3: grain of salt. But either way, I think Cuba's on 257 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: the table. Certainly you're seeing a right wood shift in 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: places like Panama, Chile, really the whole bit of Bolivia 259 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: for the first time in ages since Evil Morales. Really 260 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: Mexico Brazil less so they're still pretty much a friendly 261 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 3: even though what they did to Bolsnaro. But I think 262 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: really the holdouts these days, it's really Mexico, Colombia, you know, 263 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: Ecuador even you know, they seem to be quieting down. 264 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: Really it's Mexico. It's what you got to solve. And 265 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: the problem there is that the cartels run the nation. 266 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: So that's just our hemisphere. But I think you're going 267 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: to see a lot of change here. All I would 268 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: say is that I hope he adds more carrot to 269 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: the stick. You know, it can't be all stick, it 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: has to be carrot as well. I'd like to see 271 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: some sort of common market, something involving the terrorists being 272 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: lowered for this hemisphere and bring prosperity as opposed to 273 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: just cracking the whip to get them in line, because 274 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: that would be a really, really powerful trading block when 275 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: you consider all of the oil and natural resources that 276 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: are scattered around and unexplored in a place let's say 277 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: like Guyana, where the Chinese are like just digging roads 278 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: and doing everything they can to get in there, because 279 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: those precious metals that we need to build our phones 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: and all of that are in those jungles, as is oil, 281 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: and they're starting to find that out. If I know 282 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: that Trump knows that, and I think you're going to 283 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: see some of that. 284 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: We might get Greenland too. 285 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: I see he's making that noise. I got to tell you, 286 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: you know, there's a base there. I think a lot 287 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: of people don't realize this. Rich Lowry has a story 288 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: in today's Post. I was gratified to see it because 289 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: he's the first guy I've seen say it. We have 290 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: a base in Greenland that we've had forever. You know, 291 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: we don't have to militarily take it over, you know, apparently. 292 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if you heard that the Danish ambassador 293 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: is asking for a meeting. They want to talk for me. 294 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: If it's me, I just say, you know what, do 295 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: it by mission creep every couple of months, take a 296 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: few more miles of that base because it's nothing but 297 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: wasteland though that is long, like ten thousand people in 298 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: the entire country or something, and make a deal with Denmark. 299 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: I think we will de facto have Greenland without firing 300 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: a shot, even if it's not you know, typically traditionally 301 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: pot it's not going to be a state, but I 302 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: think you could see it ultimately being some sort of 303 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: a protectorate that we have in conjunction with Denmark. 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: Well, I also love with the mission in Venezuela. 305 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: And the most book to Minnesota is that Cubans can't 306 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: protect the Dureau, so they look we not like they 307 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: were strong before. But you know, regardless, now you're right, 308 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: You're right, the Russian air defenses are garbage and couldn't 309 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: get pass in the duro, so they look weak empathetic. 310 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: And then now he's taken out a teammate Venezuela from Iran, 311 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: China and Russia, which they're all trying to creep into 312 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: our backyard and then also use Venezuela for nefarious purposes. 313 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: And then also oil. 314 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: So it's like we like, in just one foul swoop, 315 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: he's essentially like reshuffled all of that as well. 316 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: So it's like it's just it's you know, one hundred percent. 317 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: Listen. I've been down there and there's an island off 318 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: of Venezuela called Margarita Island. It's quite remote, it's very 319 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: overladen with jungle and it's where they had there's terrorist 320 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: training camps, there hasbola Is training there. This is public. 321 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: There are some other anti American groups, some of which 322 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: are from America that some various points with training there. 323 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: It is a you know, Venezuel' is gonna be tough 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: to with Minister I know Trumps saying we're going to 325 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: take it over. You got remote jungle, but you also 326 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: have the mountains in the west, the ends, and it's 327 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: just did they're they're almost autonomous. They don't even feel 328 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: like you're in Venezuela. And the architecture in many areas 329 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: is Germanic, looks like Germany, it looks like Bavaria, which 330 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: I'll leave it to you to conjecture as to why. 331 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: But it's a very varied terrain, not an easy place 332 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: to hold together. Number of different languages Spanish primarily, but 333 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: there's a number of India languages and stuff. But you're 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: one hundred percent right, And I just hope that the 335 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: Trump administration, as we do get in there, is transparent 336 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: with the American people to tell us what they found, 337 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: because it's really going to justify it, you know, just 338 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: the discovery of a Hesbala training camp in on Marguerite 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: Island and the images of that will go a long 340 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: way to letting people know why we had to do 341 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: what we. 342 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Did, you know, shifting gears to Minnesota. You know, obviously 343 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: people are probably familiar with it, we've talked about on 344 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: the show. 345 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 2: But potential nine billion. 346 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: Dollars worth of fraud fourteen client at risk programs for 347 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: welfare where they think there could be a broad read end. 348 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Governor Tim Walls stepping down clearly seeing the writing on 349 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: the role politically now that he's engulfed in all of this. 350 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: But I guess the question to you is, do you 351 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: think we'll see you know, for instance, Keith Ellison, the 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: Attorney general, or even governor Governor Walds. Do do you 353 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: think we'll see any of these politicians or elan Omar 354 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: swept up in this legally and you know, potentially facing criminal. 355 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: Charges from the facts that are out. I think the 356 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: person who's in the most peril is Ellison. And here's 357 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: why I interviewed god I think it was yesterday actually 358 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: on my podcast The Ops Desk, a guy named Bill Glunn. 359 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: Now Glue was a assistant to Tim Plenty when Plenty 360 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: was governor. He's now with a conservative think tank in 361 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: Minnesota called the Center for American the American Experiment. Excuse me, 362 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: here's why he matters because for a first of all, 363 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: because he's doing good work. But to this story, he 364 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: matters because he's the only guy who pursued and got 365 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: a hold of the audio tape of Ellison meeting with 366 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: the fraudsters from defeating our future schem I don't know 367 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: why this is not a bigger story. So defeeding our 368 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: future scammers to Somali's met with Ellison before they were indicted, 369 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: and they complained that they had their money's FIGOT slowed 370 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: down by state auditors, and Ellison tells them this is 371 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: Pitoy's stuff. Waltz agrees with me, and we're going to 372 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: make sure that this gets resolved and fixes it for them. 373 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: So aside from the egregiousness of that that he's citing 374 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: against his own state government, he then gets, depending on 375 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: what reporting, twenty to twenty five thousand dollars in donations 376 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: between him and his son, his son was running for 377 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: office in Minneapolis as well over the next two weeks 378 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: from these people from this group. So what you need 379 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: if you're going to look criminally at these kinds of things, 380 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: is a real tif for tat getting people to vote 381 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: for you. You could always argue, well, you know, that's 382 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: American politics. I want to win their votes by doing 383 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: things for them. Okay, that would be a potential defense. 384 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: But getting campaign contributions within the pun number a week 385 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: or two of having a meeting like that, I think 386 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: is getting very very close to the line. And so 387 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: you've got to say to yourself when they get in 388 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: there and start pulling the communications, and they're doing that. 389 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: There were sixteen lest I heard sixteen federal investigations, all 390 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: of which, to be fair, it started on the Biden administration. 391 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: When you look at that discovery and start getting emails 392 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: and texts and paperwork and phone calls, and if you 393 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: can flip somebody, remember those Somalis are in jail. If 394 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: you grab one of those feeding our future guys and says, hey, 395 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: look we got some nefarious looking stuff here, would you 396 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: testify for leniency against Ellison. I don't think they're going 397 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: to hesitate. They don't care a lick about Ellison. And 398 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: now you've got a real case. You got a witness, 399 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: you got some real atmospheric you got the movement of money. 400 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: I think a lot of FEDS will take that case. 401 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: So just from the facts that I know nowadays are 402 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: just allegations. I want to be clear. But if I 403 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: were Ellison, you notice he's been quite quiet and he 404 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: ultimately gave the money back. But he gave the money 405 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: back only after these guys were indicted and arrested. It 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: looks bad. And he also involked Waltz in the meeting. 407 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: He said, Waltz is on board with this. You know, 408 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: he thinks this is all Pitdley stuff as well, So 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: I don't know where this is all going. Ilhan Omar 410 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: may have other issues, but as apparently she was involved 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: in the precursor entity that occupied the Leering Center. You know, 412 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: the Leering Center had been investigated previously and shut down 413 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: and then it just reopened, rebranded with a different owner 414 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: that might have been family, it looks like, so she 415 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: was apparently somehow rather either involved or was an habitue 416 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: of the previous location. So I'm sure they're looking at that. 417 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: But from the facts, I know Ellison needs the lawyer up. 418 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: Well, that's like the thing with the Leering Center, is it? 419 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: Like just to me, the lack of effort and even 420 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: spelling it correctly just shows how rampant this fraud has 421 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: that they didn't even feel like they had to try 422 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: or even put like a little bit of effort into it. 423 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: Amazing when we look around the country. 424 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Do you think this level of fraud is specific to 425 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota or we're just paying attention to Minnesota right now 426 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: and this level of fraud is elsewhere, or like, is 427 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: this a uniquely Minnesota thing or you know. 428 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, no way it's first of all, recognize that in 429 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: the Feeding Our Future case in Minnesota, they tried to 430 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: reach the jury. The defendants did, and they got a 431 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: hold of a woman. They reached her and they offered 432 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: her some ungodly amount of money I could get a 433 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: couple hundred thousand dollars to say to essentially hang the jury, 434 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 3: and they told her to say the following claim that 435 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: this is all a racist witch hunt against immigrants. This 436 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: is what the parks told her to say. To her credit, 437 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: she went to the Feds and said that they reached me. 438 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: They're trying to get me to throw the case, and 439 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: so they added those charges to the case. My point 440 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: is that is the defense every place. When you start 441 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: to look at this stuff, you are racists. You are 442 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: hunting the after poor people who are just trying to 443 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: make a living, and it becomes very circular because what 444 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: happens it is inevitably democratic constituents. I really believe this 445 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: because I've seen it in New York firsthand. These programs 446 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: are just funded and funded and funded. Every you go 447 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: up to the Bronx, every second storefront is some sort 448 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: of community outreach project that does nothing. I'm sorry, but 449 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: they don't, and they all donate to the Democrats. It's 450 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 3: this whole ngo dark money morass. It's all funded very 451 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: often with federal money. And from where I sit, Lisa, 452 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: you know you'll never make this case. And I'm sorry, 453 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: sorry to be sort of hyperbolic, but from where I sit, 454 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: the Democratic Party is morphing into a nationwide reco because 455 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: they just fund this crap. These people who receive the 456 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: money proselytize for the Dems. Anybody who attempts to stop 457 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: it is a bad person, is a race is a sexist, transphobe, 458 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: whatever it is. And the money goes right back into 459 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: the machine that is the Democratic offers because they're all big, 460 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: big donors. The Somalis not only vote them, but donate them. 461 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: All those daycares were giving money back to them, organizations 462 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: and them campaigns like Allison, and the whole thing is 463 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 3: circular and it's funded by all of our money. And 464 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 3: it happens everywhere. I can tell you. Here in New York, 465 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: the bodegas are universally run by Yomenis. And then when 466 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: they legalize marijuana, we've got twelve hundred illegal marijuana store fronts, 467 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: like literally in a week all of them run by Yomenis. 468 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: How did that happen? They know how to do it. 469 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm not saying all your Many's the crooks, of course not. 470 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: But I got to tell you I brought at least 471 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: four or five of those cases, and in some cases 472 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: we would take eighteen perps, twelve perps, all of whom 473 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: were doing massive ebt fraud. That's like snap benefit kind 474 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: of stuff, running illegal cigarettes, running fake documents, sell in 475 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: K two that is synthetic marijuana, and making a fortune 476 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: and the money all goes. At one point we're able 477 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: to ascertain that we were funding both sides of the 478 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: Many Civil War from bodegas inside New York City. But 479 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: they're hard cases to make. The prosecutors don't like them. 480 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: They're not sexy. They don't make the front pages. The 481 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 3: only reason mine made the pay and I call them 482 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: mind my people did it, you know, my detectives and 483 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: my bosses. I was, you know, the supervisor who set 484 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: it up and gets out of the way. But those 485 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: cases were only even media worthy because they had the 486 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: terrorism patina. Otherwise nobody would care. And it's at least 487 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: at the level of the Somali stuff, probably bigger and 488 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: I shudder to think what goes on in California. 489 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's also you know, for importing people from places 490 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: in the world where corruption. 491 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: Is the norm. 492 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: That's right, and be surprised if they're engaging corruption here 493 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: in the United States because it's, like, you know, it. 494 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: Was the norm where they came from, hundred percent. Got 495 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: to take a quick break. 496 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: If you like what you're hearing, please social media or 497 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: send it to your family and friend. 498 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: I've been following on x. 499 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: And on social media what's been going on in Iran. 500 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: It's really hard to separate fact from fiction happening on 501 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: the ground. But we're seeing these uprisings, these protests, even 502 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: reports at least online of protesters taking over cities in 503 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: the country. 504 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: One sort of what do you think is real? 505 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: And then two, what role do you think the United 506 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: States and Israel are playing in sort of internally orchestrating 507 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: those probably from CIA or covert operations. 508 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: Over We're definitely involved. I'm not telling you anything that 509 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: you haven't intuited your way into any way. I can 510 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: give you a quick story one of the reasons that 511 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: the populace of Iran is actually still pretty pro West 512 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: despite what you hear about the malas is because during 513 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: the Reagan years, the agency that CIA flooded to the 514 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 3: extent that they could across the border VCR machines into Iran, 515 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: and then once they got them out there, much to 516 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: the dismay of the mall is, they sent in American videotapes, movies, 517 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: and the most popular movie nationwide in Iran was wait 518 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: for it, Top Gun, and that was very canny because 519 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: it showed Americans as the good guys, as people who 520 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: can do but also militarily capable. And so even after that, 521 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: if you read the stories and I have, I had 522 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: to do this stuff for a long time and be 523 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: very embedded in it. Even during the hostage crisis of 524 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: the Carter years, the crazy students who were all riled 525 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: up with revolutionary fervor took over the embassy, but the 526 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: military in Iran was apologizing to the hostages. They were 527 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: very sheepish about the whole thing. The point is Iran 528 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: as a very very sort of bifurcated place, and really 529 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: down to is you have this class of mulla's who 530 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: run the place, who did not expect you don't realize this, 531 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: did not expect to win when they revolted. When Commande 532 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: came back from France, they really did not think they 533 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: had any shot at it. The Shot was sick and 534 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: it remains a mystery to Iranian analysts. You know, it's 535 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: a good book out and I recommend to the audience 536 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: called King of Kings. It's about the fall of the 537 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: Shot and the revolution that the Commanian Revolution. They nobody 538 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: can really ascertain why this Shot was so inactive. It 539 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: was almost like he just gave up. He was tied 540 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: of the whole thing. He decamped to America. He was 541 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 3: sick and he ultimately died of cancer. But it was 542 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: almost an accidental revolution. But the problem is, once these 543 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: guys get in place, dislaudging them is next to when possible, 544 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: and everybody just goes along to get along. And they 545 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: have weaponized a lot of the less educated classes. Let's 546 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: say they have the religious enforcement troops so to speak. 547 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: They're paramilitary called the Besiege and those are kind of 548 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: the shock troops that they have in the streets that 549 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: if a woman's not wearing a veil, they start hitting 550 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: her with a cane and all of that. And then 551 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: they have the IRGC, which is their elite. They make 552 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: sure those people all are well fed and cared for 553 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: so that they keep everybody else in mind. And all 554 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: you need is to cracks to start to form, and 555 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: it starts to teeter. We saw it under Obama, he 556 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: didn't take advantage of it. We've got a very different 557 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: president now. I think there's a very good chance we 558 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: can see this the reporting of Komane looking to Now, 559 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: this is not Ayatola Komani, this is his follow on Kumane, 560 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: who believe it or not, I actually kind of met 561 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: one time, and there's a creepy cat. But that's another story. 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: But during you and general Assembly. But the de Kumane 563 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: apparently has plans in place to flee like Asad to 564 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: Moscow if and when he is overthrown. Now that might 565 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: be just to be fair here, that might be you know, 566 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: a is an agency or some other agency news story 567 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: plant because that happens. But it was in the New 568 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: York Post, so I'm going to trust it that it's 569 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: vetted out, and that tells me there were real cracks. 570 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: For me, there's a real educated class that remains there, 571 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: that's a real historic, great culture of the Persians, and 572 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: they're very proud and I don't think they're going to 573 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: put up with this stuff much longer. And if you 574 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: see the images of what I ran look like before 575 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: the shah Fell, you know, it looks like New York, 576 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: you know, and women are walking around in skirts. They 577 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: look very modern. This guy's going to work in suits. 578 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: It was very much almost like a Maoist revolution, that 579 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: is to say, from the lower classes, peasant classes. And 580 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: as a result, it remains in my estimation, weak, fractured 581 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: and rifle overthrow. And God, Lisa, what a world of 582 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: difference were we to wake up one day and to 583 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: see a more modern Iran. Venezuela off the table, Cuba 584 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: off the table, what's left of the access of vele evil? Really, 585 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: North Korea which is just a wild card by anybody's estimation, 586 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: Russia which has got all kinds of problems, and of 587 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: course our principal larbisary China. 588 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: What a difference a president makes, right, right, unbelieva? Thank 589 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: you ever question, Paul Marrow, You're the best. Thank you 590 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: so much for coming on, and look forward to seeing 591 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: yet Fox very soon. 592 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: That'd be great, Thank you, Lisa. 593 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: That was Paul Morrow. 594 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: We appreciate him for making the time to come on 595 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate you guys at home for listening every 596 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. 597 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: I also want to thank my producer, John Cassio for 598 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: putting the show together. 599 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: Until next time,