1 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health. 2 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Here we are day two of our Combine covers live 3 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on 4 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Another jam pack doozy for you here 5 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: today as we'll have Chargers GM Tom Talasco joining us 6 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: in about oh i'd say about twenty eight minutes from now. 7 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Get the update from him. Bills play the Chargers this 8 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: year as well as the rest of the AFC West, 9 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: so we'll get his take on that division and how 10 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: it's shaping up. There have been some changes not only 11 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: to the Chargers coaching staff, but Raiders are looking for 12 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Broncos have a new head coach in Sean 13 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Payton who comes in with fantastic credentials so offensive coordinator 14 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: and defensive so we'll talk to Tom about that Hamburg, 15 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: New York native as well. Two o'clock one, Charles Davis 16 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: will be joining us, so excited to catch up with him. 17 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Friend of the Show NFL on CBS Color analyst during 18 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: the regular season of CBS's coverage of the NFL, and 19 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: then final half hour of the show, we've got CBS 20 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Sports Draft analyst Chris Trepasso, who sometimes fills in on 21 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: this very show whether you or I are out at times, 22 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: and we'll join us and we'll go through some of 23 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: the receiver prospects that he's been watching a lot of 24 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: film on to get some updates. He's got some different 25 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: names in there that he like. So talk with Chris 26 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: in the final half hour of the show, So looking 27 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: forward to that conversation. There is some very seismic news 28 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: here at the Combine today and we'll just jump right 29 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: into it. Steve considered the best player in the entire class. 30 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Georgia defensive tackle Jalen Carter has been charged with reckless 31 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: driving and racing in a connection with the crash that 32 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: killed his teammate and the recruiting staff member a day 33 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: after their parade in Athens to celebrate their national championship. 34 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Really a tragic event to begin with, and now there 35 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: are repercussions here as more and more as being found 36 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: out about just what happened. The Athens Clark County Police 37 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: Department in Georgia has issued an arrest warrant obtained Wednesday 38 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: by the Associated Press. It alleges that Carter was racing 39 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: his jeep against the Ford expedition driven by the recruiting 40 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: staff or twenty four year old Chandeler Lacroix, which led 41 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: to the wreck back on January fifteenth. The announcement came 42 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: hours after there were reports in the Atlanta Journal Constitution 43 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: that Carter was present at the scene of the crash 44 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: and later provided shifting accounts of the accident to the police. 45 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: As we know, Devin Willock, his teammate, an offensive lineman 46 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: for the Bulldogs, and that recruiting coordinator Lacroix were killed 47 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: in the accident. Carter was here at the Indianapolis Scouting Combine. 48 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: He was supposed to talk to the media this morning, 49 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Steve about an hour and a half after this broke. 50 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: That was scrapped. He is not talking to reporters as 51 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: we understand it. He has already fulfilled all of his 52 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: interview responsibilities here at the combine with the NFL clubs 53 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: interested in speaking to him, because those began on Monday, 54 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: So all of his meetings took place on Monday and Tuesday, 55 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: so he was free and clear of meeting with any 56 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: teams after this came down, and he is not working 57 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: out here. He's saving that for his pro day at Georgia. 58 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: Reckless driving and racing are both considered misdemeanor offenses in 59 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: the state of Georgia. Carter's representatives have told police that 60 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: they are making arrangements for Carter to turn himself in 61 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: in Georgia. He obviously has to get back here, yeah, 62 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: but they're telling him he will be turning himself in. 63 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Really really unfortunate news. It was a tragedy when it happened, 64 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: and you know, kids being kids, racing their cars through 65 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the streets, and it inted the worst boy possible with 66 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: two people killed and two other people hospitalized. It was 67 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: it was tragic. And uh, you know, so one car 68 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: that crashed, and apparently they're accusing you know, Carter of 69 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: being in driving the other car being a part of 70 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the other car, the passenger probably driving. So uh and 71 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: then of course, you know, lying about it in the 72 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: subsequent aftermath. So, um, it's gonna sort itself out. Um, 73 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: whatever happens to Jane and Carter. The tragedy is that 74 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: the two people are dead because of the you know, 75 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: kids being kids and racing cars and you know, and yeah, 76 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: now it's the repercussions are gonna come trickling out of 77 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: the court system. It's it's it's tragic. Some of these 78 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: details are mind blowing. The police investigation revealed that racing 79 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: after leaving the downtown Athens area at about two thirty 80 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: in the morning, both vehicles switched between lanes. They drove 81 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: in the center turn lane, they drove in opposite lanes 82 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: of traffic, They overtook other motorists, drove it high rates 83 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: of speed, and evidence indicated that shortly before the crash, 84 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: the vehicle that did crash was going one hundred four 85 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: miles per hour. The toxicology report indicated that Channel of Lacroix, 86 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: the recruiting coordinator who was driving the vehicle that crashed, 87 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: had a blood alcohol content of point one nine seven. 88 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: It's just terrible and just so senseless. Yeah, it's just 89 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking, it really is. And everything that I know 90 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: about Jalen Carter is the kid's an upstanding kid, does 91 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: community service there in the Athens area. We saw a 92 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: report last week that when he found out that one 93 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: of his teammates, who was a walk on, didn't have 94 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: any money for food, he used his own money from 95 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: his nil deals to pay for that teammates lunch. Every 96 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: single day. So to see this is just well, really 97 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: disappoints it. Yeah, we all know, I mean even good 98 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: people make mistakes. There's no question there was a number 99 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: of kids and this involved in this whole thing, and 100 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of mistakes made, which when you 101 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: start stringing mistakes together people people are killed. And that's 102 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: what happened. So a real tragedy. I don't know that 103 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: it impacts is draft status a whole lot. I mean, well, 104 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: obviously I have to see how this is taking care 105 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: of them the courts, whether they make a plea bargain 106 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: or whether he pleads guilty. And you know, two misdemeanors 107 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: were talking about here, So we'll have to see how 108 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: it shakes out. And obviously a lot of these teams 109 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: that were interested in Carter up at the top end 110 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: of the draft are going to have to redouble their 111 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: efforts with their due diligence, you know, to make sure 112 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: they get it right based on what they feel their 113 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: team means. Yes, absolutely, and this and this is you 114 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: know that he had some people were red flagging him 115 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: for his character before this, maybe because of this, maybe 116 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: they people had a hunch was going to happen. Then 117 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: last week that you know, the story broke that you 118 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: mentioned that he was taking care of a teammate with 119 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: his own money, making sure the guy eight like like 120 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: he was on scholarship. But you know, that's the human condition. 121 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: They can do things that are unbelievably kind and generous 122 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: and selfless, and they can also make really idiotic mistakes. 123 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: And indeed this may be the case with Jalen Carter, 124 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: NFL Quarterback Front as we go around the NFL presented 125 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, the official healthcare provider of the Buffalo 126 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Bills and Jets owner Woody Johnson, along with GM Joe Douglas. 127 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: They are meeting with Derek Carr in Indie today. Now. 128 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: He already visited the Jets at their facility in New 129 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Jersey earlier prior to the combine, but he is meeting 130 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: with them, sitting down with them, and Derek Carr already 131 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: met with the Saints and Panthers yesterday. Carolina owner David 132 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: Tepper was in that meeting with Carr in Indy, So 133 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: the Jets are now meeting with Derek Carr today. Carr 134 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: also met previously with New Orleans Saints owner GAYL Benson 135 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: down in New Orleans and they'll be meeting what he'll 136 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: be meeting with her today. So Derek Carr doesn't look 137 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: like he's in any hurry to make a decision on 138 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: who he might be interested in signing with. But it 139 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: is clear he's doing his own due diligence to get 140 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: it right. And I have to believe he's motivated to 141 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: do that after things turned so sour with the Las 142 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, where he had previously spent his entire career. Yeah, 143 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: and he's so he's speaking with the Saints, spoke with 144 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, and nice with the Jets. Those are the 145 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: three most obvious suspects. I would wonder if there was 146 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: another one in but given the quarterback market being what 147 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: it is, always there are a lot of teams we 148 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: may not be aware of that maybe kicking the tires 149 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: on Derek Carr. So interesting that the Jets are coming 150 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: back for a second round of an interview on both sides, 151 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is interviewing them for a second time, and 152 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: they're interviewing Derek Carr for a second time. So I 153 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: think that's an intriguing and I think that's I think 154 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is the most. Well, he's a free agent 155 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: and that makes him the most viable option for a 156 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: lot of teams that you can put Aaron Rodgers out there, 157 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo out there, Gino Smith, but they don't 158 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: have I don't know what you call the freedom. I 159 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: guess the total freedom, and I don't know the track 160 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: record or certainly Derek carr is a is a one 161 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: of a kind asset on this quarterback market in this year, 162 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: this offseason, and I don't think he's in question. I 163 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: think he's the top guy in most people's list. Aaron 164 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers speaking of him right, He spoke publicly for the 165 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: first time since completing his darkness retreat, and we heard 166 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Packers GM Brian gutencou'st yesterday here at the Combine say 167 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: he's still unsure of his quarterbacks twenty twenty three plans. 168 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that Brian Gudencou said is that 169 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is ready to be a starter in this league. 170 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of back and forth there. 171 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: But Rogers said on a podcast, an Aubrey Marcus podcast quote, 172 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: for everybody involved directly and indirectly, it's best for a 173 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: decision earlier rather than later. He says, I feel really 174 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: good about the conversations that are going to be had, 175 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: that have been had with the important people in my 176 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: life that help to orient me. But I'm not looking 177 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: for somebody to tell me what the answer is. All 178 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: the answers are right inside me, and I touched many 179 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: of them, and definitely the feelings on both sides during 180 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: the darkness. I'm thankful for that time. Then there's this, 181 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: there's a finality to the decision. This is Rogers still talking. 182 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't make it lightly. I don't want to drag 183 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: anybody around. Look, I'm answering questions about it because I 184 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: got asked about it. I'm talking about it because it's 185 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: important to me. If you don't like it, and you 186 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: think it's drama, you think I'm being a either or whatever, 187 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: then just tune it out. That's fine. This is my life. 188 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: It's important to me, and I'll make a decision soon 189 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: enough and we'll go down that road and be really 190 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: excited about it. So still no definitive answer on whether 191 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: he wants to stay with the Packers or chart a 192 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: new path in the twilight of his career here, but 193 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: it's going to happen sooner rather than later. According to him. 194 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. He's not gonna get traded. There's I 195 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: don't know, there's nobody that's going to cough up the 196 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: kind of capital capital to get him for what you're 197 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: saying is probably guaranteed one year of service. He'll probably 198 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: play if he gets traded and he acquiesces to that 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: that trade, he'll give him that year, but he'll go 200 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: through this retreat thing again. He'll reevaluate his career again. 201 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: You're not gonna trade what it would take to get 202 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers off the green Bay Packers to get Aaron 203 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: Rodgers on a one year deal. I mean you can 204 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: talk about first round draft picks two years ago. He 205 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: was back to back MVP. Yeah, you're not so it. 206 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is not going. In my mind, there's no 207 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: way Aaron Rodgers goes anywhere from green Bay. Green Bay. 208 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: It's not going to find a trade partner. Yeah. So uh. 209 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: And they certainly don't have the stomach to cut him 210 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: because it'd be a nine gazillion dollars cap hit. It's 211 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: like ninety three million, right or something like that. I 212 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: have to double check because I remember we went over 213 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: it once before. It's pretty high. I think there's a 214 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: way to make it smaller if he's traded as opposed 215 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: to released. So we'll have to check. And I'm trying 216 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: to remember, but I think I'm just gonna have to 217 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: look it up because I don't remember. It's a ninety 218 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: nine seven million dead cap hit if they cut him, 219 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: if they trade him, though it's only thirty one six, 220 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: that's that's three times what the Carson Wentz thing was. 221 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: We couldn't believe they did that. Yeah, that's one hundred 222 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: million dollars a dead cap space they maybe do have. 223 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the Saints will trade for him, they do have 224 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: it out after this, and there'll be four hundred million 225 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: dollars over the cap. I don't see that happen. I 226 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: don't see that happen. They're not trade that guy. Well, 227 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: And as I have said multiple times, and I know 228 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: you agree with me on this, because you've reacted to 229 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: this comment, why in the world Aaron Rodgers would want 230 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: to go to the to any other team in the 231 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: AFC makes no sense. Why are you going to go 232 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: to the conference where you would have more competition, arguably 233 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: three or four quarterbacks that are better than you, then 234 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: stay in the NFC where the only guy you could 235 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: make an argument is better than him is Jalen Hurts, 236 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: right in the entire conference. That's right. You're probably still 237 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: the best guy in your age forty season. Not to 238 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: mention the fact that you're still the top and in 239 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: your own division and you could sail to another division title. 240 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: That's right. So if you're if you're still playing to 241 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, you stay right where you are exactly. 242 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: You don't go to the AFC, but you gotta deal 243 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: with Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert. 244 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the list goes on and on. The Green 245 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: Bay Packers are automatically in the playoffs. If Aaron Rodgers 246 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: shows up at training camp, anyotas and all that, if 247 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: he's on their team, they're they're a playoff contender because 248 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: of that division. The Bears aren't gonna the Bears aren't 249 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: going to get near the Packers this year. No, they're 250 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: still too far. The Lions are going to probably take 251 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: a step back from where from the lightning in a 252 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: bottle they caught this year of going nine and and 253 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Well, I hate to say it, but 254 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: they're in the they're in the division with the Bears, 255 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Lions. Good grief. Oh by um yeah, 256 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: he's just he should just stay where he is. And 257 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I would have been happy to tell him that he 258 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: didn't go need to spend four days in a darkness retreat. 259 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: You want to win the Super Bowl, stay where you are. Well, 260 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: here's the thing too, and we've been I'll say it again, 261 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna trade for Aaron Rodgers knowing the price tag 262 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be exorbitant, and then have him come there 263 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: and then after one year have the opportunity to opt 264 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: out and just say, hey, thanks guys, I'm forty one, 265 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm done well. And I think that's what's kind of 266 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: piquing the interest of some teams because they're thinking to themselves, well, 267 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: it might only be for a year, but that means 268 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: it might not cost as much as we think. Because 269 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: if you're the team that's trying to trade for Aaron Rodgers, 270 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: aren't you saying, hey, this guy's an unknown, as you've 271 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: seen with your own team each of the last two 272 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: off seasons. If we're signing up for that I'm not 273 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: giving you two once. I'm just not right because I 274 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: might only get him for a year. I can't give 275 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: up that kind of capital for that. Here's a good 276 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: GM would say that. A bad owner might say the opposite. 277 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't care. I do not do it anyway. Get him, 278 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: get give him three ones? Oh my gosh, not three? Well, 279 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: it can't be three, bro. You know that there are 280 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: owners out there who've done okay, stupider stuff than that. Right. Uh, 281 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: let's move on. I think we've talked about Rogers enough. 282 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's so cut and dry for me. It's silly. 283 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: He's not. I don't know how he doesn't see it 284 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: he does because he probably does. He probably does see it. 285 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Or maybe winning a Super Bowl isn't the aim anymore. 286 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like, I want people to love me. Maybe 287 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing for him, and he wants 288 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: to go somewhere where he's wanted and loved. Who knows. Well, 289 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: that's why I can't figure that. I told you, that's 290 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: why we go through these season. He wants the Packers 291 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: to profess their undying love for him before he makes 292 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: his decision. I don't know if they love him as 293 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: much as I don't, I think they like. I think 294 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: there's a new love in their life. Yeah, and his 295 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: name is Jordan Love. Uh. Ravens. They did there, Yeah, 296 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: I saw what you did. It was good. Onwards, well done. 297 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: We're you know, we're here all week. Ravens GM Eric 298 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: da Costa said yesterday he's hopeful to get a deal 299 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: done with quarterback Lamar Jackson before having to apply the 300 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: franchise tag. So no matter where they end up, we 301 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: know one of the possible end games is the franchise 302 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: tag and I think it's careening towards that because as 303 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: long as Lamar Jackson continues to dig in his heels 304 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: and demand a fully guaranteed contract, we know the Ravens 305 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: aren't blinking at that. They're not going to do it. 306 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: And I understand why we're looking at a franchise tag 307 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: situation absolutely, and I think it's the right thing to 308 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: do for Baltimore. The only other question guarantee that guy 309 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: any money? Right, The only other question is does he 310 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: play in Baltimore on the franchise tag or is there 311 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: a sign and trade deal, because I think that possibility 312 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: still very much exists. Yes, do the Baltimore Ravens put 313 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: him as a uh not, it's the other the other tag, 314 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: not the exclusive, not the exclusive franchise tag. I think 315 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: it'll be non exclusive if it's. If they put him 316 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: on a non exclusive franchise tag, what it does is 317 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: invites other teams to make him an offer, and the 318 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens would have the opportunity to match it, and 319 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: if they didn't match it, they get compensation in return 320 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: two ones. So it's just probably what they're it's also 321 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: twelve million or eleven million dollars less than the exclusive 322 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: franchise tag. Yeah. Um, so we'll have to see how 323 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: that plays out. But it is it's franchise tag. That's 324 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: a done deal, Lucile. As far as I'm concerned, they're 325 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: not going to suddenly bridge the gap that they have 326 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: right now in two weeks. Like that's just not happening right. Uh. 327 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: The other thing the Dolphins, it's fifty year option time 328 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: for one two a tongue of violoa. They have to 329 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: make that decision soon, you know, May, early May, and 330 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: so McDaniel, Mike McDaniel is asked, are you guys going 331 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: to exercise the fifty year option on Ta this spring, 332 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: and McDaniel said the Dolphins are not yet ready to 333 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: make a call on that. Do you think that is 334 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: purely tied to Tah's long term health because all you're 335 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: doing here, Steve, is buying yourself time, which you would 336 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: think the Dolphins want to do with Tuah. You exercise 337 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: the fifty year option, now you don't have to talk 338 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: long term contract extension. You can push that off a year. 339 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I would think they would be inclined to do that. 340 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Buy as much time as you can watch two wa 341 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: get through a season healthy in twenty twenty three for 342 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: their sake, I'll say this too. Don't forget there was 343 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: a stretch of games in the first half of the 344 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: season or right in the midpoint of the season where 345 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Miami offense was absolutely killing it on all levels. They 346 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: were just humming along. So they know that that's in 347 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: the gas tank for TUA to light it up offensively. 348 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: So they feel like and and you know rightfully, so 349 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: no matter what you and I think, they they have 350 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: every right to believe they've got the guy because two 351 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: have put a together a straight It wasn't one game, 352 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: it was a stretch of games where they were they 353 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: were the hottest offense in football bar none. Of course, 354 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: then you know two gets you know, two have got 355 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: in concussed, and you know, then it all started to 356 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: fall apart then. But man oh man, they were singing 357 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: it for a minute. So that's why they don't want 358 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: to throw two to the curb. But they also don't 359 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: want to, you know, give him a Deshaun Watson contract. 360 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: Maybe not even not even Josh Allen or Pat Mahomes contract. 361 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: They may be waiting on Joe Burrow to see what 362 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: his contracts going to look like with Cincinnati, or maybe 363 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: TWA wants to wait and see what that looks like 364 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. But that I think Miami is hoping against 365 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: hope that Tuah is past his injuries and can come 366 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: back and play like he did for a good stretch 367 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: of last season, right, And maybe the reason they don't 368 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: want to commit to the fifty year option is because 369 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: they say, let's see him get through this season. That's 370 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: from will talk turkey after that. So whether it's a 371 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: long term, here's the thing, because you would say to yourself, 372 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: hey to it. Like they said at the end of 373 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: the season, two is our guy. We're going forward with 374 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Tuah Okay, if you're going forward with two, that means 375 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: you're trending in the direction of a long term contract 376 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: extension in a year's time. If you use the fifty 377 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: year option, because he's your guy, you're just pushing that 378 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: thing on the to do list further into the future 379 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: because you have the fifty year option there for him 380 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: to play under if you choose to do so. But 381 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: you gotta make that this asion by May. If you 382 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: bypass that option to me, it casts doubt on two 383 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: as our guy, because you're trying to leave yourself the 384 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 1: option of completely divorcing yourself from too as soon as 385 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, because his contract is up, and I 386 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: think they know that to His injury history with the 387 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: concussions is a major concern and should be because if 388 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: you if you give him the fifth year option and 389 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: he signs it, it's fully guaranteed aside from injury. Well, 390 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing you asked. If it was purely because 391 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: of his injuries, I think yes, that's that's their own. 392 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: That's got to be their only hesitation because he's played 393 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: exactly like you thought two was gonna play when he 394 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: came out of College's playing on the high end of that. Yes, 395 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: um for stretches of his career, his problem is he 396 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: can't stay upright. And I mean his first season the 397 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Bills put him out in week two of the season 398 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: that he was he he was out because of a quicksack. 399 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: Was finished for the indenit a shove and then cussed 400 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: from a shove. And then the next year it was 401 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Matt Milano this one where we thought he was concussed. 402 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: He said it was a back injury. Four days later 403 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: it is a concussion. And the whole that whole debacle 404 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: took place. I Yeah, they know, they know he can play, 405 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: they do not know that he can stay healthy. Yeah, 406 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and that's that's where they sit. That's a big if. 407 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: And it's a huge if when you're when you're gonna 408 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: commit that kind of because you know it's not it's 409 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: not even the length of the contract, it's the guaranteed money. 410 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: You've given it to a guy who will never see 411 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: the end of a contract or see even the most 412 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: of that contract. One other note from around the NFL. 413 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: It was announced today the NFL Hall of Fame Game, 414 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: the first preseason game of the year, played in Canton 415 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: on Hall of Fame Weekend will feature the New York 416 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Jets and the Cleveland Browns to open the preseason in 417 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We're still a long way off from 418 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule coming out, but the first preseason game 419 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game Browns Jets, which makes some sense 420 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: because there are some former Browns and Jets going into 421 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: the Hall this year. We have to take a break 422 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: here because when we come back. Chargers general manager Tom Talsco, 423 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: a Hamburg, New York native, gonna join us next. Talk 424 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: a little AFC West, the division the Bills are playing 425 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: this fall. Tom Talsco, coming your way here on One 426 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 427 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 428 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: live from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Please to be 429 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: joined now by La Chargers general manager Tom Talsco, also 430 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: at Hamburg, New York native. For those that don't know Tom, 431 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: good to have you. Good to see it's kind of 432 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: our annual thing here. It is our annual thing. Thanks 433 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: for having me on. So the biggest news and I 434 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: know this is like got to be feeling like a 435 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: home run for you guys landing Kellen Moore as your 436 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: new OC. Like, maybe just lay out how that all 437 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of came together for you, to tell you what 438 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: a lot of luck, really lucky that he became available 439 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: when we made the change. He wasn't a coordinator that 440 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: we thought would be available. So we were working down 441 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: a list of other coordinators and there were some people 442 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that we interviewed that we really liked, but then Kellen 443 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: kind of late in the process they made a change 444 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: in Dallas. He got a chance to kind of get 445 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: out and he really just fit everything we're looking for him. 446 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: If you look what he did on the field with 447 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a coordinator, I mean, the numbers speak 448 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: for themselves. And then just you know, his relationship with 449 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback, which is really important to have between those 450 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: two people. And there was some familiarity between Justin and 451 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: Kellen just a little bit. They knew each other from 452 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: a couple of things they did up in the Pacific Northwest, 453 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: but having a former college quarterback and played a high 454 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: level played in the NFL, and when they talk about things, 455 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: they'll kind of see it through the same lens, which 456 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: I think is important for those to UM, so really 457 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: lucky to have him. He'll bring a little different, you know, 458 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: vision for our offense. We're excited about it. And also 459 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: not for nothing, having a guy coming in working with 460 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Herbie Justin Herbert is a lot different than some other 461 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: teams have. I mean, you got an off he got 462 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: guys who would love the chance to go to LA 463 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: and work with with your guy. Yeah, and I think 464 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: I think Kellen I shouldn't speak for him, but I 465 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: will since I'm on Buffalo Radio. I think you know, 466 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: he's working in Dallas with with the head coach that's 467 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: an offensive head coach. Hum. Now Kellen can come to 468 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: LAU with an established players on offense already and really 469 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: run his offense. And he wants to run um because 470 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is born the defensive side of the ball, 471 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: So Kellen has a clean slate with how he wants 472 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: to run it. Um. We're excited about him. We think 473 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: we have some players that really fit what he wants 474 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: to do. How big a change will that be? You 475 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: know for Justin Herbert and the crew. You know, you 476 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: need bring a new system in. It's a new learning curve. 477 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, not that he can't handle it. But you 478 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's a change nonetheless, so you 479 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: got to get everybody up to speed all over. That's 480 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: the process, you know. Yeah, it's it's gonna be a 481 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: big change. Luckily, our quarterback is really smart and sharp 482 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: and so he's gonna have to kind of work through that. 483 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: But everybody else I think will be fine. But yeah, 484 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a change. I mean, this offseason will 485 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: be a lot of mental reps for Justin with the 486 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: terminology and how how he calls things, and but we 487 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: got plenty of time for that. Not worried about it. 488 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: So we sit here, we talk about the Bills all 489 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: the time. They've got twenty two unrestricted free agents. Give 490 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: us a little thumbnail about what you know, what's the 491 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: first thing on your play. You've got the same kind 492 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: of problems as every other team. Give us a little 493 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: thumbnail where you're at and where your process the whole process. 494 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: Like this time of year, it's it's your own free agency, 495 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: trying to work through about you know, who you want 496 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: to resign, who you can resign. Then you're working through 497 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, free agents for other teams, like we'll be 498 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: looking at the bills free agents obviously, and then then 499 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the draft. You're doing that all at once. But the 500 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: first part of it is we're of your player at least, 501 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: how how we work where of our players, how many 502 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: can we bring back? Right? And you know, where are 503 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the financial ramifications of that as far as their salaries. 504 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: So we have to pick and choose. Sometimes we can't 505 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: bring everybody back, and nobody can, and that's the way 506 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the league is set up, and it set up, you know, 507 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: in a good way for that keeps a competitive balance 508 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: that you just can't can't like keep bringing your own back. 509 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: That's why we have a heart stalary cap. So we'll 510 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: go through. There'd be some players I know on our 511 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: team that we'd love to bring back, but financially we 512 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: probably can't this year where our cap space is not 513 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: nearly what it was last year. So we kind of 514 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: work through those, see where that goes, and then we'll 515 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: kind of work through free agency, which for us will 516 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: be a lot lighter than it was. And say, last 517 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: year I asked Brandon being this question yesterday, I'll ask 518 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: you the same one. So there are different avenues that 519 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: you can pursue to get your camp number in a 520 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: place where not only are you in camp compliance, but 521 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: you can make some moves to improve your roster. You 522 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: got obviously restructures with existing contracts, player releases, trades. So 523 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: if you had to make a pie chart, which choice 524 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: or which avenue makes up the biggest part of your pie? 525 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that is a great question because first 526 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: you say, well, we'll just restructure everybody. That way we 527 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: can keep everybody right. But restructuring is just pushing money 528 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: back into other years, which eventually it's going to hit, yes, 529 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: so you have to be careful with that. And then 530 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: the trade and release, you know, that's you don't want 531 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: to have to go that route. Um, certainly don't want 532 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: to go the release route. The trade route is sometimes 533 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: difficult based on you know that the calendar where we are. 534 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes the trade has to be done before March fifteenth, 535 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: sometimes has to you know, So there's that makes a 536 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit more difficult. But if you can do the 537 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: right contracts in a way in and then if you 538 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: do have the restructure, it doesn't hurt you that bad. 539 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: That's the where you'd like to go, but it's easier 540 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: said than done. Sometimes who's at the top of your 541 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: list for your guys that that that you've got to 542 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: address first this offseason. Well, I know, for us, we 543 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: have three starters are starting free safety nas at Early, 544 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: our starting linebacker Drew Tranquill, and our starting right tackled 545 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Trey Pipkins, all draft picks for us. They've all kind 546 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: of grown in our system. We have a draft develop 547 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: and resigned philosophy. The only problem is is I mean 548 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: it's not like I mean, if you do draft well, 549 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: you can't bring everybody back right. Um, and you know 550 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: we've had our hits and missus like everybody else. But 551 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: those are three young players that have really grown in 552 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: our system I turned into starters. We'd like to have 553 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: them all back. Can we do that or not? I'm 554 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: not sure yet. That's a part of this meeting here 555 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: at the Combine and trying to see where the market 556 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: is for different positions because it changes every single year, 557 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: and see what we can get done. The Bills have 558 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: the AFC West on their schedule next year. As you know, 559 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: they'll be coming out to you guys at some point 560 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: when the schedules released. Um, what do you make of 561 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the division because there's been some turnover there. You know 562 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to have a new quarterback, the 563 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: Broncos have a new head coach. So there are some 564 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: teams that are experiencing a lot more churn than you guys, 565 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: are the Chiefs. You would think that would put you 566 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: in a favorable position from a continuity standpoint. Yeah, well, 567 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: we'll obviously have more continuity than Denver. And then you know, 568 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders are probably still transitioning through the Josh 569 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: McDaniels era. And then we've got you know, the Chiefs, 570 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: which you know, yeah they're the don't worry, we know 571 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: we feel your pain. We play them almost every year, 572 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: so that you know, as we build our team, I mean, 573 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: we have to look at who's top on our division. 574 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: That's Kansas City and we have to try and beat 575 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: a team ability team to beat them. And then you know, 576 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: Denver is this Denvers are really talented team. And I'll 577 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: have a you know, obviously have approven head coach walking 578 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: in there. So, um, it's gonna be a tough division. Um, 579 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: but if it makes us all better, make us better 580 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: once we get to the playoffs. So we'll just kind 581 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: of work from there. You've got your quarterback in Justin Herbert, 582 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: and you see Josh Allen him and we've seen him, 583 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, face off two guys that are big, athletic 584 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: guys that you can build around, and and they're young. 585 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, both these guys are going to be around 586 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: for a long long time. You've you've see the same 587 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: thing in your division. You and it's justin Herbert and 588 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and the story about you know, justin finding 589 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: out he's gonna play against him five minutes before he 590 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: got out, you know, three year or four years ago 591 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: when when that happened, and all of a sudden, it's like, Wow, 592 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: who is this guy? Uh, give us an idea of 593 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: what how having that we see from our side in 594 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Buffalo with Josh, what's it been like for you guys 595 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: getting him, starting to build around him in your philosophy 596 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: going forward? Yeah, Well, first of all, we're just were 597 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: lucky to have him. I mean, you look at the teams. 598 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: There's teams to have franchise quarterbacks, and there's teams that 599 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: are desperately trying to find a franchise quarterback. And I know, 600 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, four or five years ago when we had 601 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers who was still playing at a really high level. 602 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: But we all knew, like this isn't gonna last forever. 603 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: He's not going to play until he's forty five, fifty 604 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: years old. We have to have the next quarterback ready 605 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: to go, and you lose a lot of sleepover who 606 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: the next quarterback is going to be. So to be 607 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: able to, you know, be in a draft where Justin 608 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: is available and they draft him. You know, we're just 609 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: husually lucky to have that. And the other problem is 610 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: is like all these great quarterbacks a team learn there 611 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: in the in the ANFC on our side of the count. 612 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, but um, but then as as Justin grows, 613 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: and just like you guys have with Josh Allen that 614 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: Josh is now on a second contract, when Justin is 615 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: on a second contract and we have to pay him accordingly, 616 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: you do have to build a team differently. Um. Which 617 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: is fine that that's just part of the job. That's 618 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: that you want to have that problem because that means 619 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: you have a veteran quarterback who's really good. So we 620 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: can handle that. Now we're gonna be younger some other 621 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: areas which we've never been worried about. Um, But yet 622 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: a team must be built a little bit differently and 623 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of it's following the blueprint that I learned 624 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: when I was with the Colts, when Bill Point was there, 625 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: and how Bill built the Colts with Peyton, making you know, 626 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: a big chunk of the salary cap, and you know 627 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: we did just find there. You're gonna be waiting a 628 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: little bit longer to pick this year, having made the 629 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: playoffs down at twenty one, and well unless you decide, hey, 630 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: I like somebody, let me go up and get them. 631 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Is it reassuring when you have the franchise quarterback and 632 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: you know there's other teams desperate for one. I'm just 633 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: curious you're sitting in the draft room on draft night 634 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: and every quarterback that gets picked in front of you. 635 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: I gotta believe you're sitting there going awesome, awesome because 636 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: you don't need one, and it's pushing everything else that 637 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: you may need down to you. Yeah. I keep telling people, 638 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: I see at least eight first round quarterbacks, you guys, right, 639 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: at eight at least. I'll push the narrative. I see 640 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: eight first round quarterbacks. I see eight left tackles. Yeah, 641 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: there you go. So, but yeah, that's that's part of 642 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: the draft. That's why it's it's it's nice now where 643 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: we're picking at twenty one. I don't know if anyway's 644 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna trade up in our spot for our franchise quarterback. 645 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: They'll probably go before we go. But but yeah, that's 646 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: certainly it is nice thing that we have that part 647 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: of it done and we just kind of build around 648 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: him from there. But the big thing with the draft, 649 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: which I try and remind people as when we're drafting 650 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: this year, is not just to feel I need for 651 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three or we're drafting these players for two, three, 652 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: four and five years down the road. We can't really 653 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: have a narrow look at it that whoever we're drafting 654 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: this year has to, you know, slide right into an 655 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: immediate spot. So which makes it nice drafting that way. 656 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: It means you don't have to really reach for a 657 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: certain position. You take the best guy us there and 658 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of roll from there. So we sit here in 659 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo and watch you guys. We don't see you that often, 660 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: and we get kind of the big, you know, ten 661 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: thousand foot view from across the country view one of 662 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: the things you did this season, and some one of 663 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: the things has been kind of I don't know whether 664 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: it's what you call it a curse or an unfortunate 665 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: You guys have struggled with injuries over the last three 666 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: or four years. You're making some changes on that side 667 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: of your organization this offseason, but really there's only so 668 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: much you can do. But because in its injuries, how 669 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: do you know who's going to get injured? But by 670 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: the same token, you feel like you got to try something. 671 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: How deep a dive do you go into to try 672 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: and change the fortunes of your franchise on something that 673 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: seems so random like injuries. Yeah, it is a little 674 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: bit like we had a lot of injuries this year, 675 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of injuries to keep players. You know, 676 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 1: two years ago, Brandon's first year, we were really healthy, 677 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: like top five healthies team in the league. So it 678 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: goes up and down. One thing you remember, and I 679 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: know you know this as training SASCO training staffs treat 680 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: the injuries after they happen. They don't really prevent injuries. 681 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: But as far as trying to get through that, it's 682 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: really you know, what type of players are we bringing in, 683 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: And we're bringing in players that are have chronic injuries 684 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: or maybe high high risk injuries from college, or maybe 685 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: free agencies. A lot of it is who you're bringing 686 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: in some of us, how you run your program, how 687 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: you practice, how you play the temple, that you play 688 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: at the temple, that your practice, how you work in 689 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: the weight rooms, nutrition, those are all part of it. 690 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: And then a lot of it's just a little bit 691 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: of luck. So you're trying to, you know, add that 692 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: all up. But we did a really deep dive when 693 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: we moved from San Diego to Los Angeles because in 694 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: San Diego the last couple of years their injuries were 695 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: higher than the league average. Um, you put a lot 696 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: of effort into nutrition and strength and conditioning and then 697 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's always been big and player personnel is you know, 698 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to bring in a lot of players 699 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: that have you know, big injury at risk because the 700 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: odds are higher that they're going to get hurt. So 701 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: we've always put a lot of work into that. And 702 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: it's funny you do all that work and then you 703 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: still have some injuries and sometimes it's just the luck 704 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: of the drum. That's that's what we always hear, and 705 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: it's become you know, kind of a mantra. That's what 706 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: you're it's all about. And this really you got to 707 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: get your doctors with their hands on them, get some 708 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: get them under the MRI machine, get a look at them. 709 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: And we've seen not a lot, but a handful of 710 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: times over the decades where a guy comes into the 711 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: NFL combines like you shouldn't be playing foot yea, yeah, 712 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: they didn't know um and and a lot of the 713 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: the medicals are here. Also helps some players that maybe 714 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: had a couple of things in college and our doctors 715 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: seeing like, look, everything's healed. He's at no more at 716 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: risk than than other players. So these physicals golf have 717 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: helped the players as well. What do you we're always 718 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: curious for about because we suffer from bills myopia and 719 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: we live it every day. But the league view as 720 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: a whole, like through an opposite lens from the one 721 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: we look through. What is the general consensus on the bills, 722 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: you know as it as a contender in the AFC, Like, 723 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, how do other teams look at that club? Well, 724 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: I'll say number one to meet Brandon Bean and Shalmant Dermott. 725 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: They're special. They're just they're special people, but they're also 726 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: special what they do. So once you have that, and 727 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: then you have Josh Allen. I mean, you've got the 728 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: perfect three right there. And I mean I probably follow 729 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: the Bills a little more than their regular GM just 730 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: because I'm from there and because my family is still 731 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: all the big Bills fans, and quite frankly, I'm still 732 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: a Bills fan if it doesn't affect us. But now 733 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: they're looked on very favorably. I mean, it's it's a 734 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: stacked roster, it's run really well. They can play in 735 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: all different elements and they're a fun team to watch, 736 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: and if they're a hard team, it's very difficult team 737 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: to play. I'm glad we have the Bills in our place. 738 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: This year. We have to go to Buffalo and have 739 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: to go in December, you know, get you guys on 740 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 1: our turf. But it's just a really well run organization 741 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: with a lot of good players and with a you know, 742 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: a big time head coach and general manager. Well it's 743 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: been great seeing you, I know, we this is kind 744 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: of a yearly visit. We catch up and see, you know, 745 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: ask about the families and stuff. What So, how long 746 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: are you guys in town? Through mind? Because I keep 747 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: we're out of here Friday, everybody else is here like 748 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: till Monday, I mean the weekends. We're actually getting out 749 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: early and watching the workouts live is actually pretty difficult 750 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: to do because you got like say, like corners, you 751 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: got thirty corners wind up running through drills. It's actually 752 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: easy for us to watch it on tape where I 753 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: can watch one player do all of his drills at once. 754 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: So we'll get out pretty early, get our work done 755 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: this week, get out this weekend, and then I kind 756 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: of go from there. So that's interesting. So you do 757 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: it in cutups, just make it together efficient, rather than 758 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: if I'm watching a corner back pedal for a drill 759 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: and then there's twenty more guys that go and then 760 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: he goes again. You just can't watch everybody because I 761 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't know if it was if there was value in Oh, 762 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: let's this guy and then how does he compare to 763 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: the next guy? How does he compare to the next guy? 764 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Is there value in that? Or you're just better off 765 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: doing and cut ups one at a time. I'll tell 766 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: you why you feel that way. If if you can 767 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: focus your eyes for six hours doing that, I can't. 768 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough. I've tried to do that. I 769 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: was just curious. But it's it's it's different method as 770 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: you guys watch it. I mean it's rapid for yours. 771 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: You're watching a receiver catch balls. You're not even sure 772 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: which quarterback was throwing to him because you're trying to 773 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: watch everything. For us is watching tape is so much 774 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: I can rewind it can Well, that's what you guys 775 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: are used to. That's that's what we're used to. But 776 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: there's definitely there's some people that, hey, like, I gotta 777 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: see it live. I gotta to see the ball get 778 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: in the hands and see the grip. Everybody looks at 779 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: a little bit differently. I know I've learned a lot 780 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: from post COVID of heart be more efficient with how 781 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: we work. Um, but uh, I mean everyone kind of 782 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: handles us differently. All right, Tom, thanks again. As always, 783 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: we'll see out in LA this fall. Man. Make sure 784 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: you tell Murph I said, hello, Yeah, we will do 785 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: it better. Yep. That'll be chargers GM, Tim to let'sco 786 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: joining us here. We'll take a break, but be back 787 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: with plenty more here on One Bill's Live, presented by 788 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: Kill Out of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio fl Combine 789 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we 790 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: are on day two of our Combine coverage and we 791 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: saw Bryce Young is now an Indie on the scene, 792 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: and the biggest question about the Alabama quarterback is undoubtedly 793 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: going to be duability played this season with his weight 794 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: in the one seventies at best. We've even heard from 795 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: some people in the know that there were games last 796 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: season that he entered at one hundred and sixty nine pounds. Steve, 797 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: I am not five eleven like him, but I'm about 798 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: that weight. That would be like me running around there. 799 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: I would get destroyed, snapped in half like a toothpick. 800 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: Playing quarterbacks. I'm not saying against well, yes I am. 801 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's big enough to play that 802 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: position at the NFL level. That's like, have you know 803 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: you can't have a five ten, two hundred pound offensive 804 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 1: guard and you're not gonna have one hundred and seventy 805 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: pound QB. And I'll say this, Doug Fluti did it right, 806 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: and he stayed pretty durable, tremendous escapability, and he also 807 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: knew how to take a hit just from having watched 808 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: him play with the Bills. For three seasons. There were 809 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: times where people were coming clean and ready to literally 810 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: take his head off. Back when you could hit quarterbacks, 811 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: and what he would do is as he would get 812 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 1: rid of the ball, he would step away from the hit, 813 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: throw the ball, and it would reduce the force of 814 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: the blow because he would kind of go with it. Yeah. Yeah, 815 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: And I don't think enough quarterbacks do that even now, 816 00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: especially the ones of smaller stature, and I mean flute. 817 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: He had an awareness where he never got caught off guard, right, 818 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: and he say never. I'm sure he took some shots. 819 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: TWA does not have that ability, which is why he 820 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: is taking judo to learn how to fall properly. For 821 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: it is just saying no question, but I have I 822 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: have serious doubts about it. Plus, and we've seen it before. 823 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, Bryce Young may show up at two hundred 824 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: pounds at the combine, right, well, that was the talk. 825 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: He only to show up at one hundred and seventy 826 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: five when OTA's and training camp start. Well, even if 827 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: he's even if he's able to hold on to that 828 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds until the start of training camp, by 829 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: the end of the training camp, it's gonna all melt. Off. 830 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: It's just too much work going. Plus I said this 831 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: before when we talked about this earlier in the week, 832 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: perhaps it was last week. It's not who he is is. 833 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: He's not a two hundred pound man, right, And you 834 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 1: know he may be when he gets to be my age. 835 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: That's what happened to me, right, So, but he's not 836 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: when he's in his full when he's a young athletic 837 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: human being, his body's telling him and he needs to 838 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: be a buck seventy five, right, So he can try 839 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: and do that, But he will play that you're telling 840 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: me he's gonna play his entire career being a different 841 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: physical specimen than he is he would be otherwise I've seen. 842 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: And if he's gonna play, and if he's gonna play 843 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: one seventy five, one eighty, whatever it is, I don't 844 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: think he's gonna I don't think he's gonna have a 845 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: ten year career. And now he's gonna have a six 846 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: year career. I'm telling you there have been the guys 847 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: do it all the time. Though now I'm having said 848 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: that offensive lineman, the old adages you were either a 849 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: fat offensive lineman or a skinny offensive lineman. But You're 850 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: all big when you're playing, and then after you finish, 851 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: you become the fat guy or the skinny guy. Nobody 852 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: plays at a natural weight at that spot because they gotta, 853 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, they gotta be as heavy and strong and 854 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: powerful as they can be, so they they transform their bodies, 855 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: and so do other positions. So it's I'm not saying 856 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: he can't do it, but that is another hurdle he's 857 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: got to get over if he's gonna play it a 858 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: heavier weight and do it for an entire career. I 859 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: think the only thing that could remotely say him save 860 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: him is he's known as a cerebral player, nose offenses, coverages, 861 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: pre snap to post, snap, backwards and forwards like it's 862 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: it's like that for him. So if he can get 863 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand at the pro level 864 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow or twa, you can make the argument 865 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: that that could reduce the concern about his durability because 866 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: he's not taking those hits because the ball's coming out 867 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: so fast. That's over seventeen games, though, I gotta believe 868 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,319 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, somebody's gonna catch him. What's gonna 869 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: happen on a third and twenty two. Yeah, you know, 870 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: you gotta wait for the route, even if you want 871 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: to get the ball out. What's gonna happen on a 872 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: third and eleven? You know what's gonna happen when they 873 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,879 Speaker 1: have a bad play here in a bad play, Because 874 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing. All takes his one. It's not like 875 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: you have to have seven of those to have him struggle. Yeah, 876 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: he may be able to pick up six of him, 877 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: but on that seventh one, he holds the ball and 878 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: he's out for six weeks because he took a shot. Yeah, 879 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: so the margin of error is razor thin, and it 880 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: can't be razor thin when it comes to physicality in 881 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: a physical sport, right, right, Yeah, it's I think it's 882 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: the great conundrum, I really do. And we've heard yes 883 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: it is, and for this reason we heard it. The 884 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: guy's a phenomenal guy. Processes it, sees it, gets it out, 885 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: knows where everybody is. He's he's like at another level 886 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: for a college athlete coming into the pros. This guy's 887 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: an amazing guy. But the only you know, he's one 888 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: hundred seventy five pounds. Right, It's a question will pose 889 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: to Charles Davis from NFL on CBS and the NFL Network. 890 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna join us next for our number two on 891 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Collid to Health. It's Buffalo 892 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. This is One Bills Live presented by Callid 893 00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: to Health. Here we are at the end, l combine 894 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: our number two Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Please 895 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: to be joined by a good friend of the show. 896 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: You've seen him before and you will now see him 897 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: again from NFL on CBS and also NFL Network Draft Analyst. 898 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: It is one and only Charles Davis joining us here 899 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: center stage. Good to have you Charles. Hey, Ben, you're 900 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: doing all right. I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back. 901 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: I apologized everyone. You're stuck with me one more time. 902 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: But it's great. Great to hang him, my guys one 903 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 1: more time. Pretty cool. All right, We'll give you a 904 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: couple of minutes and then then he got him. Uh. 905 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: We were knocking around just before you came on. The 906 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: big question around Bryce Young, which is the durability concerns. 907 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: There's talk that he's going to come in here and 908 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: try to way in at two hundred pounds. It's the goal. 909 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: A birdie told us there were times last season that 910 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: he came into games at one sixty nine. Wow, I 911 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: mean that's teny. We've seen guys make the weight jump, 912 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: Charles all the time, come in here at and inflated weight. 913 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,280 Speaker 1: What have you thir chugging, chugging all the water thirty 914 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: pounds though, Charles, that's not even natural. I'll say I'll 915 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: go out on a lim and say he did play 916 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe a game at one sixty nine. He'd probably won it, 917 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: no question. But so here's the question. Okay, So the 918 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: durability question is out there on him. We've talked about 919 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: how the kid is so razor sharp he can probably 920 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: be a quarterback in this league that can get it 921 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: out on average in two and a half seconds to 922 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: maybe reduce the number of hits he will take. But 923 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: then Steve brought up what happens on third and twenty two. Yeah, Like, 924 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: he's not getting out of two and a half seconds 925 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: out of thirty twenty two. So the durability concern is there. 926 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: And his fellow alum Twah is only two hundred pounds 927 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: and has durability issues as we saw last season. That 928 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: can't be helping a case like Brian, you know, like 929 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: young so what do you do there? I one of 930 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: those teams at the top of the draft. I think 931 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: he's the best playmaker by far. I think he's a 932 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: playmaker extraordinaire. I struggle with the idea that he even 933 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: weighed on undred sixty nine playing a game that seems 934 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: like an awfully precise number someone to ding a guy with. 935 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: But the idea that he was around one eighty and less, 936 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: I could see that, like, I can buy that a 937 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: little bit more. He You're gonna have to check him 938 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: and make sure he doesn't have a brick in each hand, right, 939 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: and and and and a little experence paying the whole 940 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: deal to do what he's got his He probably drink 941 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: a gallon of water before he can at least, right, 942 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: They better get the way in quick so he could 943 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: make a run right after he does it. Bottom line is, 944 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: remember a few years ago we were waiting to see 945 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray measured over five ten. Remember that, right, 946 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: we got the measurement and everybody went, whoa, Okay. Then 947 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: we had Joe burrow is his hand nine nine inches 948 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: and he hit nine. We always have that where this 949 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: the special way ends. This kid is the most mature 950 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in the group. For me, he makes the most plays. 951 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 1: He plays from the pocket better than he gets credit for. 952 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: He is not a runner runner. He is a play 953 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: extender and then the ball goes He's passer. He's a passer. 954 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: He anticipates, he sees. There's things that I've seen him 955 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: do that I go, what, hold on a second, how 956 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: did he see that play developing that way where the 957 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: ball goes there and all of a sudden the guys 958 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: there to meet it. I like him. Plus, I think 959 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: he's a lot tougher than maybe what people know. My 960 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 1: spies have told me that. You remember when heard his 961 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: shoulder last year, he missed again, he got up right, 962 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: if that game had been a different game, he probably 963 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: would have played in that game. Okay, so they were 964 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: able to rest him that week. But my spies tell 965 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: me the when't a heck of all practice down the stretch, 966 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: and somehow he's able to play on Saturdays and play 967 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,320 Speaker 1: really really well. Oh yeah, by the way, he and 968 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: Will Anderson and the rest of his bowl his mates, 969 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: they played in the Bowl game, which was stunning in 970 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: this day and age, because when the national champion, he said, 971 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: opting out, they go when they play, he goes twenty 972 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: one for twenty five five touchdowns. Okay, see you guys later. 973 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: I like him, I know the durability concerns are big. 974 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: And Steve knows better than you than me because he 975 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: played in that era when quarterbacks look like Jim Kelly 976 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: because they were taking the most ungodly shots back there 977 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: weren't being penalized or called. And Jim Kelly was a 978 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: big man. Dan Brino was a big Mansiason was a 979 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: big man. They were heavy, big thick people because they 980 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: were heavy dudes. The heads then Steve, they would all 981 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: draw flags. Now, yeah, they had to take those and 982 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: endure those. It's a little bit different than where we 983 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: are now. And this this a guy like brace show. 984 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, and why he's so entering, 985 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: why this is because we always talk about the wards. 986 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: That's what this is about. He's almost you come in 987 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 1: here and it's almost like, okay, you kind of what's 988 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna disqualify a guy? That's the only thing. This is 989 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: it because from the neck up, from from the heart out, 990 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: this guy is presidential. He is he is off the 991 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: charts leadership intelligence, uh in eate, instincts, everything you can 992 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 1: put intangibly on a quarterback plus the xs and os, 993 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 1: he's got it. I gotta tell you he's got bags 994 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: of it. He does. And think of it this way. 995 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes people do things to make sure you know they 996 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: did them, even though they're acting like they didn't. Right 997 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: we all, oh, no, no, no, no, Like what do 998 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: we call our humble brag? You know, the humble bah, 999 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: you know? And I was hanging out our cruise and 1000 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: but but you know, it wasn't a big deal, right. 1001 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: I saw this kid in a situation last summer where 1002 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: there's a chance to go to an establishment that you 1003 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: need to be twenty one or older. He wasn't twenty one. 1004 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: He opted out of going. But the only reason I 1005 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: knew was that was near the conversation was like, you know, 1006 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: and he was much more. I don't think it's a 1007 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: good idea because if something goes wrong and that's it, 1008 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: and that was it. He didn't jump up and go 1009 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: I can't go, guys, I'm not twenty one or whatever. 1010 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,919 Speaker 1: Just recognizing I don't need to put myself in bad 1011 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: situations just in case the chances of something happening were 1012 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: pretty small. Yeah, But I think he had the innate, 1013 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: the innate understanding that if it does, I gotta deal 1014 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 1: with it, and why they're with it, and he's seeing 1015 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: big picture, he's understanding the world better. Then obviously they're 1016 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: going Man, when I was that age, what are you 1017 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: talking about? Self awareness is not a problem for him. 1018 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,359 Speaker 1: It is not is not a commodity that everybody has, 1019 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: all right, So let's take a closer look in terms 1020 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: of the bills. Obviously we've got free agency even before 1021 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: we get to the draft and the kids that are 1022 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 1: here this week, and they have a giant positional hole 1023 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: at safety just because of expiring contracts. It's not just 1024 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, his backup is up. Dean Marlow, 1025 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: the vet they brought in via trade is up. So 1026 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: they have just from a sheer numbers standpoint, safety to 1027 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: phil linebacker could be a hole if Edmunds doesn't come back, 1028 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: and it looks like he's going to command a pretty 1029 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: very big price tag. Jordan Phillips is a free agent, 1030 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: and I know he was hurt, but you know, there's 1031 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: a hole there to be addressed, and and that's that's 1032 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: just on defense. Um. You know, when people are saying receiver, 1033 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: interior O line. What do you what do you see 1034 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: his priorities for Buffalo in free agency? Well, I think 1035 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: that you've nailed some pretty good ones. And this is 1036 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: where the tragedy of Damar Hamlin also comes into unknown. Yeah, 1037 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: because he would have been obviously one of those people 1038 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,239 Speaker 1: right there and had played himself into that position that 1039 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be having this conversation, right, So that's one 1040 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: thing that kicks in. You definitely want to shore up 1041 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: because now your division has gotten better. And by the way, 1042 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: that team in Green, until they get settled at quarterback, 1043 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna get Breese hallback, they've got Michael Carter, They're 1044 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna want to run the heck out of the football. 1045 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: So that's where the Jordan Phillips Flinn comes into play. Right. 1046 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: So this is not a division because you when you 1047 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: took over the division and became that team, it was 1048 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: New England and everybody's going, okay, can New England get 1049 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: back in? And no one else was in the fight. 1050 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: They weren't there. Guess what, everybody's in the fight now. 1051 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 1: It's a whole different ballgame. So that's what I would say, 1052 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: and I will tell you this get off a free agency. 1053 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: What is the name of that young man at Illinois. 1054 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: He's a safety and I saw him at the Senior 1055 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 1: Bullness driving me oh um, not with it when he's 1056 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: the corner. Brown is his last name. Yeah, he's a 1057 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: twin and his twin plays running back for them. Yeah, 1058 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: Sidney Brown. He had a week at the Senior bull 1059 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,439 Speaker 1: that got my attention. He's a leader, he's a ball hawk, 1060 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: he's a tackler. He plays like a Buffalo Bill safety. 1061 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: Bills DNA Brandon really plays like a Buffalo Bill's safety. 1062 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: All right, So if we want to flip, what would 1063 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: you say? You said the rest of the division is 1064 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: getting better, right ten to agree with you on that. 1065 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: What do you think is the general overview league wide 1066 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: of the Bills? Because Steve an ideal with Bills, myopia 1067 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 1: every day. What is the outside observance the Bills right 1068 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 1: now going into twenty twenty three, Still the team setting 1069 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: the pace, Still the team that you have to chase 1070 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: down and he's still a team that did that, is 1071 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender. Yeah, everyone's got to plug some hold, 1072 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: but everybody goes through it every year. But you mentioned 1073 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: Bill's DNA. Oh, it's it's steeped now where they believe 1074 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 1: they're winning. I'm going to say, as an outsider watching 1075 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: what you had to go through last year, from the 1076 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: moment Damar went down through the rest of your season, 1077 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: the organization handled it, the players handled it, the fans 1078 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: handled it. Dignity, class, empathy, caring, all the things that 1079 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: are associated with Buffalo. But you can't tell me, and 1080 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: this is one person now, this is me that the 1081 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: toll on the team that they can never talk about 1082 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: wasn't big. Because I watched a team against Miami and 1083 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs that was already operating off of an emotional deficit. 1084 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: They found a way to win the Cincinnati game. I 1085 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: take nothing away from the Bengals. Congratulations they won the 1086 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: ball game. I said in the first quarter, this team 1087 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: is emotionally spent because there's no way you can get 1088 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: away from it. There's no way you can blow up 1089 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: and say, guys, we've got to move on and play 1090 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: a game this week. Now, you're insensitive. No one's going 1091 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: to do that. You're going to take care of Tomarnna, 1092 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: take care of the situation, gonna take care of your people. 1093 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: It had its toll on them. Now they can move forward. 1094 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: Now they can go back and play football again. Tomorrow's okay. 1095 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: Whether they plays football and is almost irrelevant. The man's 1096 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: alive and we're all happy. That's wonderful and everyone does 1097 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: the right things. That's the thing that I saw at 1098 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: the end of last year for them. And you will 1099 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: never hear a word come out of one Bill's place. 1100 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 1: It would never have happened. I'm saying it as an 1101 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: outside observer. You could see it because I've been through 1102 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: it before with other teams. When you've had these kind 1103 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 1: of things that have happened, eventually it wears you down. 1104 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: And that's just how it goes. No getting around because 1105 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 1: all of us are coming in going. So I was 1106 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 1: practiced today with tomorrow practice today. So how was this? 1107 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you talk to Demara and Steve your player? 1108 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: I think I think nailed it. If you saw Tradavious 1109 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: Whites press conference after the New England game, which is 1110 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: the last regular season game, they asked them to describe 1111 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: the week and he called it an expletive show and 1112 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: he said, I try to turn on the TV to 1113 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: forget about it and what I saw. He said, every 1114 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: time the TV goes to commercial. I can't unsee it. 1115 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: It's the first thing that pops in my head. I 1116 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: walked out of that press conference and I said, oh boy, 1117 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: this team might be in trouble from an emotional content standpoint, 1118 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: which Steve talked about all the time and kind of 1119 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: educates our listening audience about, because if you've never played 1120 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: at that level, you just don't know the emotional investment 1121 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: you have to make every week to get yourself ready 1122 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: to physically pay the price. And I still don't think 1123 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL fans understand it. And to pay 1124 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: homage to your teammate, you want to make sure that 1125 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: that teammate gets his due. Steve, you were in the 1126 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: league when Jerome Brown died in Philadelphia, right, Yes, it 1127 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: was okay, so it an offseason season thing. But you 1128 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: remember what the Eagles did that year. They kept the 1129 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 1: seat open on every charter, They kept his locker, and 1130 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: they did his locker on the road. Emotional debt just 1131 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: it just kept creeping in on them. I was former 1132 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: PJAJA Tour tournament director Payne Stewart. Yeah, okay, right, We 1133 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: tournament directors were trying to out honor pain honor each 1134 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: other for pain every week. By the end of the year, 1135 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: I called the PGA Tour because my term is last ternam. 1136 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: I said, what should we do for pain? And like 1137 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Charles has nothing left to do right, not anyone doesn't 1138 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: love him. Not anyone don't care. Eventually you run, you 1139 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: run your course on that again, I hope I'm not 1140 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: coming off the wrong way. It was tough for these 1141 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo players to do everything they had to do. And 1142 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: by the way, they wouldn't change a thing because they 1143 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: love their teammate. That's the key. You wouldn't change a 1144 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: thing they do at unfortunate Charles, h we got a 1145 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: little bit. Why don't we know he's got a bounce 1146 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: because he's got I ate it all up. If somebody 1147 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: else wants to talk to tomorrow Hamlet, thank god, you're okay, Yeah, 1148 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: no kidding, Charles. Thanks, we appreciate it. We're gonna stick 1149 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: and stay, but we're gonna have you ex left good 1150 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: to say, especially in person. I was usually doing the 1151 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: zoom thing and we'll talk some more drafts stuff down 1152 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: the road. Absolutely, abste time you want, We're here for you. 1153 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 1: That's Charles Davis NFL on CBS analyst and also NFL 1154 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Network Draft analyst, so he'll be watching a little bit 1155 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: more tape. He even told us, Hey, we're real early 1156 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: in the game, and you know, he's gonna be crunching 1157 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: tape for probably the next month or so. So the 1158 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: next time we have him on, he'll be much more 1159 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: well versed and we'll hit him up on positional needs 1160 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. But I'm I'm almost relieved that somebody outside, 1161 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: somebody from the outside saw that same emotional deficit in 1162 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the Bill's team after the Damar Ham as it because 1163 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I said it on the air last week on our show. 1164 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: I said, I'll go to my grave telling people that 1165 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: was not the same team on the field that played 1166 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals that night. They were emotionally done. And yes, 1167 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: we talked about a lot, you and I didn't, and 1168 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it was obviously he feels like it was 1169 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: evident that that was a thing. And I'm I'm not 1170 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: so sure. And I've told you this. I don't know 1171 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: if I've said this on the show or not, but 1172 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'll go ahead and put it out there. 1173 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: This is just my opinion. There may be a handful 1174 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: of really good football players in that played on our 1175 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: team that may never be the same after that Tomorrow 1176 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Hamlin incident. It was that traumatic for some of these guys, 1177 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: and it may show and the rest in the remainder 1178 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,959 Speaker 1: of their careers. Let's not forget this. Coming up this fall, 1179 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: the Bills not only have to play the Bengals in 1180 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: the regular season, they have to play him in Cincinnati. Right, 1181 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: they have to return to the scene where they witnessed 1182 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I don't care if it's a year later. 1183 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 1: You can't tell me that's not going to run through there. 1184 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: I can step on that field very much. So I 1185 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: think it will very much, and it'll be really something. 1186 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: And I'm certainly it's going to be a topic of 1187 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: conversation in the lead up to the game. So they're 1188 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: not going to be able to escape it or downplay 1189 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: it because people like us are going to ask them 1190 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, that's and not only is it's and 1191 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 1: you know too, it's going to be a very important 1192 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 1: game for both those club in the hierarchy. You know 1193 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: claim that these guys want to make who's the best 1194 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: team in the AFC, Who's going to be there at 1195 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: the end. This last season, it was the Chiefs, the 1196 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Bengals and the Bills in whatever order you want to 1197 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 1: put them in on any given week, it's going to 1198 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,439 Speaker 1: be the same this coming year. Yeah, So those games 1199 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: are going to have a lot of weight and it's 1200 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: going to have a lot of baggage for the Buffalo Bills. Right. 1201 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of baggage, Jalen Carter now has some baggage to 1202 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: deal with. The top prospect in the entire draft class 1203 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 1: defensive tackle from the University of Georgia. A warrant was 1204 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 1: put out for his arrest after it was discovered through 1205 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: their investigation by Clark County Police that he was allegedly 1206 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: racing the car that crashed and claim the lives of 1207 01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: his teammate Andrew Willock, the offensive lineman, and the recruiting 1208 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: coordinator who was driving the vehicle at a high rate 1209 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: of speed. So basically, from what we have been told here, 1210 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: his representatives are making arrangements for him to turn himself 1211 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: in in Georgia. So we don't know this, but we 1212 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: would anticipate since his interview schedule is done here, he 1213 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: was scheduled to speak to the media this morning that 1214 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 1: was canceled. We get it, we don't we can I 1215 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 1: think it's safe to assume that he is probably traveling 1216 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: back to the state of George. We've been told too 1217 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 1: that his people, his representation has have been in touch 1218 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: with the He's gonna come in and turn himself in. 1219 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: There's it's not like he's a fugitive or anything like that. 1220 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: These are mistermeanor charges as serious as they are. Uh 1221 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: and and he will go address those in due course. 1222 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 1: He has come out with a statement saying that the 1223 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: information that is out there and being public through trans 1224 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: transmitted is not accurate. Um, don't know what he you know, 1225 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 1: do what exactly what he's referring to, But he has 1226 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: made this. He says he wants the truth to come out. 1227 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: He knows it was a tragedy. So um, this continues 1228 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a life of its own. 1229 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Um because it was a tragedy when it happened, and 1230 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: and he is some involvement in it, right Yeah, And 1231 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: it's and it's unfortunate. And we'll have to see how 1232 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,919 Speaker 1: it makes its way through the judicial process to see 1233 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: how it could potentially impact his draft status and his 1234 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: playing career. I would imagine that his people, his representatives, 1235 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: his attorneys will probably try to find the best path 1236 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: to not serving any time for the miss because they 1237 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: are two misdemeanors reckless driving and some other kind of 1238 01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: racing misdemeanorum self endangement or something reckless driving, it was 1239 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: something else with racing. Either way, you want, you want 1240 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: to give this kid a chance, as his attorney, to 1241 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: start his career on time with whatever team drafts him. 1242 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: The question is how much does this impact is draft's status, 1243 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: because yes, this is something that points to decision making 1244 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and character, But at the same time, it doesn't really 1245 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 1: change the fact that he is a generational talent at 1246 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle position. And I said this earlier in 1247 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: the show, and I do believe in its. Certainly, if 1248 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,520 Speaker 1: even if he's guilty of these misdemeanors, which we don't 1249 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: even know, certainly he has also done. He's been reported, 1250 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, some of the things about what kind of 1251 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 1: guy he is have been reported as well on the 1252 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: other side of the coin, which is he's very positive, 1253 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 1: he's been very selfless, he's been generous. He is nil 1254 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 1: money that he got for playing football at Alabama he 1255 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: shared with not in Alabama, Georgia, he shared with a 1256 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: teammate to help the guy. He paid for the guy's 1257 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 1: meals as they every day as they went through this, 1258 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 1: because the guy was not on scholarship, so he made 1259 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: sure that his teammate had the kind of food that 1260 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 1: a scholarship player would eat, and he did it out 1261 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:23,919 Speaker 1: of his own pocket. Stuff like that. And my point being, 1262 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: it's going to depend highly on what the team thinks. 1263 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Do they know that, you know, they know enough about 1264 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: him to know that good people make bad mistakes, and 1265 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: especially young people, and what does what are They're gonna 1266 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: have to decide for themselves what this incident and his 1267 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: involvement in it say about who he is going forward. Yeah, 1268 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: this is it. It's heavy stuff because of the consequences 1269 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 1: of what happened that night. Their people lost their laws, 1270 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 1: people friends of his lost their lives, and they're trying 1271 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: to sift through whether he had any involvement in that 1272 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: needs to be prosecuted. It's it's bad, yeah, really tough 1273 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: situation all the way around. We have to take a 1274 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: break here. When we return, we're going to get into 1275 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the receiver class in this year's draft, and coming by 1276 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,719 Speaker 1: to help us with that is CBS Sports Draft analysts 1277 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Chris Trepasso. You've seen him here filling in on the 1278 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: show when Steve and I are either out for a 1279 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 1: day off or on vacation. Chris is going to join 1280 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 1: us next to divvy up the receiver class. Next here 1281 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Klota Health Fit's Buffalo 1282 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Bills Radium. Back here at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, 1283 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, one Bills Live, and please to 1284 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: be joined now by CBS Sports Draft analysts. Sometimes fills 1285 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: in here on this very show. One Chris Trepasso joining us. 1286 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: Good to have you, Chris, Hey, Ben, you're all settled 1287 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: in here and for the week that is here in Indy. Yeah, 1288 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: all settled in and it's just an honor to be 1289 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 1: part of the show with you guys. Have Tom Tolesco 1290 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 1: Western New Yorker Davis. It's an honor to be part 1291 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: of the show. Yeah, we're gonna be busy this week, 1292 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and you know, we're kind of the whole media world 1293 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: for the NFL is here and like you, and we've 1294 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: got a bunch of people who come on the show, 1295 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 1: have been guests on the show, You've been a co 1296 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 1: host on the show. So we kind of touch base 1297 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: with all of them, and yeah, we're busy, Yeah, yeah, 1298 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: we're busy. What I know, you gave us kind of 1299 01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 1: a list of guys that you've kind of taken a 1300 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: long look at in terms of prospects in the draft, 1301 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: and we should probably start with the position that I 1302 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: think Bills fans are literally obsessed with at this point, 1303 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: which is the receiver position. Not a class that's necessarily 1304 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of alpha males like the past couple 1305 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: of years. But there's some guys that can help some teams. 1306 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: I know a guy that a lot of Bills fans 1307 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,920 Speaker 1: spit out immediately is the Boston College kids A Flowers, Small, 1308 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: you would argue, maybe even a little undersized. I know 1309 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: he's been working really hard at his training facility to 1310 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: pack on lean muscle mass. I guess he's up to 1311 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 1: one eighty two now, but that was up from like 1312 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 1: one seventy two and he's only like five nine. But 1313 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: tell us why he could be an exception to the 1314 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 1: rule being undersized, because I think he plays bigger than 1315 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 1: that in those famous contested catch situations that you certainly 1316 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: need to have even if you're a big receiver, and 1317 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: if you're five foot nine and you're playing in the 1318 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: one seventies. You can't just be someone that's going to 1319 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 1: make defenders mess. You have to be able to win 1320 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: down the football field with more than just your speed. 1321 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: And to your earlier point, the fact that there's not 1322 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,679 Speaker 1: a Jamar Chase or even a Garrett Wilson in this class, 1323 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 1: that bodes well for the Bills. Picking in the late twenties, 1324 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,679 Speaker 1: they could maybe get the second or third wide receiver 1325 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: off the board. It feels like round two and round three. 1326 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: We've seen it in the past with DK Metcalf and 1327 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: a J. Brown. Terry McLaurin was a third round pick. 1328 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 1: That is where the real meat of this wide receiver 1329 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: class is in terms of overall all. One of the 1330 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 1: guys I've that struck me when I watched was the 1331 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,160 Speaker 1: guy from Tennessee, Jalen Hyatt flies and Yeah, he's a 1332 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,759 Speaker 1: different kind of athlete. What are his strengths and weaknesses. 1333 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: What are your projections about him? Because he's certainly I 1334 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: think far enough down the list that he's going to 1335 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: be available at some pick for the Bills. We'll see 1336 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: what do you think it might be? Yeah, and that's 1337 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 1: a good point to bring him up, because yesterday Brandon 1338 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Being talked about just adding playmakers to the offense and 1339 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 1: hitting those splash plays. He even spoke directly about we 1340 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: like our ability to move the football down the field 1341 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 1: seven eight, nine, ten play drives, but we know you're 1342 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: not going to always be able to do that hitting 1343 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: those big plays. You watched Jalen Hyatt's film, even the 1344 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 1: highlights or individual games, that's all he was doing at Tennessee. 1345 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,679 Speaker 1: He is a vertical, probably low four three guys, maybe 1346 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: even high for two type of player. I think he's 1347 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: decently twitchy, he's pretty quick, just wasn't asked to run 1348 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 1: a wide variety of routes and kind of that wide 1349 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,639 Speaker 1: open system at Tennessee last year. But for as much 1350 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: as I think the Bills need that run after the 1351 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: catch type, that Deebo Samuel type player to their offense, 1352 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 1: you add someone that can really stretch those safeties down 1353 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: the field to this attack, and I think underneath there's 1354 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 1: a lot more space for Josh Allen and all of 1355 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 1: these wide receivers to operate. I had in a monster 1356 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 1: game against Alabama this Year's that's gonna get your notice. Yeah, 1357 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 1: that's the film your YouTube. Well, yeah, and it's there. 1358 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Don't worry, it's up there in multiple places. The one 1359 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: guy that interested me, he kind of strikes me as 1360 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: a blue collar guy. Jaden Reid from Michigan State. Physical player, 1361 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't mind dishing out punishment to get extra yards. 1362 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: He like, he welcomes contact. I just kind of see 1363 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,679 Speaker 1: the way he plays, and I, you know, I always 1364 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: think in my head like bills DNA, bills DNA that 1365 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, being in McDermott look for, he seems to 1366 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,560 Speaker 1: fit at least that part of the dynamic and what 1367 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: they look for in a player. Yeah, definitely, And he 1368 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,439 Speaker 1: was awesome at the Senior Bowl and throughout this Bean 1369 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: and McDermott era they've talked about and just yesterday Brandon 1370 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Bean said, you know, we love the Senior Bowl, the 1371 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 1: intimacy of it. They've taken a lot of players from there. 1372 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Speaking about Zay Flowers being good in those contested catch situations, 1373 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Jaden Reid's even better. He's a little bit bigger, like 1374 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 1: right around five foot eleven hundred and ninety pounds. He 1375 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: actually reminds me just in terms of his whole profile 1376 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 1: of Stefan Diggs that Diggs was a fifth round pick, 1377 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: had a really good junior or sophomore season, not quite 1378 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: as good as a junior. That's Jaden Reid route running ability, 1379 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: the nuance Steve. You know, you got to be able 1380 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,759 Speaker 1: to not just be athletic, but you show their fakes 1381 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,400 Speaker 1: and head fakes and beating press at the line. Jaden 1382 01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 1: Reid maybe late day two, early day three, I think 1383 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,560 Speaker 1: would be very good to learn behind Stefan Diggs early in. 1384 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 1: One of the things about Jaden Reid is, and you 1385 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: always hear him talk about this, but it really is 1386 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,759 Speaker 1: a thing. The guy's a competitor very much. He's a feisty, 1387 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: gritty guy who likes to run after the catch. Got 1388 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 1: some skills after he catches the football. You're right, he 1389 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: might be a possession guy because of where he's going 1390 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: to get drafted and all that. But I don't know 1391 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,919 Speaker 1: what he called his competitive nature. Shinestone been football scouts. 1392 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 1: They love that stuff. They love that stuff. Jackson Smith 1393 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,759 Speaker 1: and jigb is a player that I think most Bills 1394 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,639 Speaker 1: fans are familiar with just because he plays at such 1395 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: a high profile school in Ohio state. But we didn't 1396 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: see much of him this year because he only played 1397 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: two games due to the injury. Another guy that's a 1398 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: little bit smaller. But I don't know if there's a 1399 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 1: receiver that works the middle of the field better than 1400 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: this kid. And the middle of the field is where 1401 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: you could argue the passing game was kind of lacking 1402 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 1: a little bit for the Bills last year, so he 1403 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: would look to be a fit there. But you wonder, 1404 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,559 Speaker 1: does the injury history push him down far enough where 1405 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 1: the Bills even get a look at I think so. 1406 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: I think had he played this past season with CJ. 1407 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Stroud in that offense, we would be saying, let's not 1408 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: even talk about him because he's going to be a 1409 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 1: top twenty selection, top fifteen most like, I don't think 1410 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: he's a big time athlete. And that's why I think 1411 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: beyond his injury history, he got hurt against Notre Dame 1412 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: and never really played again, why we're not hearing a 1413 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 1: lot more momentum him being so far removed from that injury. 1414 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 1: But you're right after the catch, he glides. He has 1415 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 1: awesome contact balance for being a little bit of a 1416 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: skinnier wide receiver in the late twenties, if he was 1417 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: there and a lot of the other positions are off 1418 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 1: the board that the Bills like that would be a 1419 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe not a high upside pick. But then you throw 1420 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: him in where he's not the number one, he's a 1421 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 1: number two, and he has Josh Allen throwing him the football. 1422 01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: He can be really good right away, a very high 1423 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 1: floor wide receiver. And then of course LSU has another 1424 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 1: kid coming out this year. They get a little string going. Yeah, 1425 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Kashawn Boutet tell us about him. He reminds me a 1426 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: lot of Juju Smith Schuster. That he's right around six 1427 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,360 Speaker 1: foot six one, around two hundred pounds and does everything well. 1428 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 1: He's not going to excel down the field. He's not 1429 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: gonna probably run crazy fast, he's not gonna have a 1430 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: forty inch vertical, but Juju Smith Schuster has carved out 1431 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 1: a pretty nice career in Pittsburgh and Kansas City just 1432 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: doing all the little things. Well, I think he's good 1433 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: enough after the catch, there's maybe some off the field 1434 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,160 Speaker 1: stuff that could push him into Day two, where going 1435 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 1: into this past season everyone thought Boutet would maybe be 1436 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the first receiver off the board. So again we're kind 1437 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 1: of sensing a theme here that it's really Round two 1438 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: for all different reasons why a lot of these top 1439 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 1: tier wide receivers are going to be available. One guy 1440 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: that kind of slipped under the radar initially for me 1441 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: and that I've only kind of been watching of late 1442 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 1: is the Parker Washington kid from Penn State. The thing 1443 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 1: that after you know, kind of watching him and reading 1444 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 1: up on him a little bit, the thing that sticks 1445 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 1: out about his skill set for me is his hands 1446 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: and his ability to catch the ball even outside his 1447 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 1: body frame, because he's not a huge dude, very athletic 1448 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: and going up and competing for the football. I'm just 1449 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: reminded of the Bills were second in the league and 1450 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: drop passes last year, and so a guy with hands 1451 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,560 Speaker 1: like this could be attractive for them. The question is 1452 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 1: where does he come off. Is he late day two, 1453 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: is he mid day two, or is he even day three? 1454 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 1: Because he only had two touchdowns last year, he had 1455 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,879 Speaker 1: like six hundred yards like he wasn't this stat behemoth, 1456 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it'll all 1457 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,560 Speaker 1: depend on how he runs. Could he run even in 1458 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the high four or fives. If he does that, he 1459 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: could be available in the fourth round. He doesn't seem 1460 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 1: like a speed guy, but like you mentioned, he catches 1461 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 1: everything outside of his frame. Go watch the Ohio State game. 1462 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: You see the entire gamut with Parker Washington contact balance 1463 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: of a running back, powerful and made a lot of 1464 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: difficult catches outside his frame, extended, taking a hit, not 1465 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 1: dropping the football. So I think those are things over 1466 01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 1: the last two years that the Bills probably will prioritize 1467 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 1: a little more. How well you are running after how 1468 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: good you are running after the catch, and how sure 1469 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: your hands are. And I think Parker Washington checks both 1470 01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,640 Speaker 1: of him. He might not be as tall or as 1471 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: long as Deebo Samuel, but he's like one of those 1472 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 1: guys who's closest in body type. Yeah, in terms of, 1473 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,799 Speaker 1: you know, getting yards after the catch, fighting through contact 1474 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,560 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, he reminds me a lot of 1475 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, who did test pretty well. He wasn't a 1476 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 1: low four four guy. No one expected that out of 1477 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,639 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Parker Washington reminds me most of Dj Moore, 1478 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 1: who's kind of criminally underrated with the Panthers coming out 1479 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,320 Speaker 1: of Maryland. That was the game with him, it was 1480 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 1: He's not gonna run past people at the next level, 1481 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,919 Speaker 1: but he will bounce off linebackers, he will make every catch, slants, RPOs. 1482 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 1: That's where Parker Washington really thrives. So again, talked about 1483 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: five or six receivers. These are all guys I truly 1484 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 1: really like as just an overall evaluator that will probably 1485 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: be there after the Bills pick in the first round. 1486 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: They could go offensive line, maybe safety, maybe linebacker in 1487 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 1: the first round and still get not just someone that's 1488 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: a developmental type, but a true contributor early in his career. Yeah, 1489 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna be talking about all these other 1490 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,840 Speaker 1: position groups as the week goes on as well. But 1491 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 1: thanks for being here with us. It. Wide receivers are 1492 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of a hot button for at this point. Now 1493 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 1: we've got a long way to go through free agency 1494 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,640 Speaker 1: and all that. But still, yeah, we'll have you on 1495 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,719 Speaker 1: later on in the week. We'll hit some other positions 1496 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 1: of need that the Bills have and race through a 1497 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: few more guys. But thanks for being here. Chris, catch 1498 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,520 Speaker 1: up with you later in the week. That's Chris Trapasso, 1499 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,920 Speaker 1: CBS Sports Draft analysts joining us. He'll be back later 1500 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,920 Speaker 1: in the week for more Here on One Bill's Live, 1501 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:37,560 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio in Indianapolis. 1502 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,640 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Good conversation there with 1503 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso. An interesting cross section of some of the 1504 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: receiver talent that'll be in the draft class. And as 1505 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 1: we heard Daniel Jeremiah tell us yesterday, Steve, it's really 1506 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,560 Speaker 1: going to be different strokes for different folks, Like what 1507 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: do you need? What do you think? What do you 1508 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 1: think is the I deal receiver type for what the 1509 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:08,639 Speaker 1: Bills should add to the core Because the slot receiver, 1510 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,799 Speaker 1: I think that's a role that we expect Khalil Shaker 1511 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 1: to compete for. Gabe Davis kind of showed he is 1512 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,800 Speaker 1: an outside guy digs you can line up anywhere, but 1513 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,600 Speaker 1: he's primarily your X. Right. What what what is the 1514 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 1: best receiver type? It's question. I think you get the 1515 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 1: best one that's on the board. But I think in 1516 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: a perfect world, I think the Bills draft traits and 1517 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about a wide receiver, there's 1518 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 1: a couple of things that are First, he's gotta be 1519 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:46,640 Speaker 1: he's got to catch the ball. Secondly, I think you 1520 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: need a guy that can really go, a fast guy. 1521 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I think speed is the thing in this game that 1522 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: changes things for defenses. Yeah, they are, and they they 1523 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 1: know always every snap, they know who the fastest kind 1524 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,640 Speaker 1: of field is. And then even if it's even if 1525 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 1: it's thirteen personnel, you know, they know who the fastest guy, 1526 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: who the threat is the Bills, and you know, you 1527 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,280 Speaker 1: go to play Miami, they know where Tyreek Hill is. 1528 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, you know where those guys are. Yeah, they 1529 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: know where those guys where the biggest threat is. I 1530 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 1: think that's the kind of guy they're gonna get. They're 1531 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna get somebody who can really rip the lid off 1532 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: of it and hopefully his skills. That guy will have 1533 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: a skill set that goes beyond that where he'll catch 1534 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: as a separator. He's good at run after the catch, 1535 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 1: he can take a hand off on a sweep that 1536 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: you know Isaiah Mackenzie mixed in with Cole Beasley and 1537 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Khalil Shaker, right and plus two, you want him as 1538 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 1: big as you can get him. Yeah, So you're looking 1539 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: for a guy that has a combination of those skills 1540 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,600 Speaker 1: and the best one. But you got to prioritize it. 1541 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: You know, his speed the best, the highest on the 1542 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 1: priority list. Or his hands or his separation. You know, 1543 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: you rarely get a guy that's got all those things. 1544 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: And if he do have a guy like that, he's 1545 01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: drafted before you can get him. Yeah, for my money, 1546 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: I think the kind of receiver that will help the 1547 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Bills the most is the separator. The guy that separates 1548 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,880 Speaker 1: the fastest, knows where to sit down and zone, can 1549 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,719 Speaker 1: get away from press man coverage, can work the middle 1550 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 1: of the field. I think that helps the Bills passing 1551 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: game the most, because you know you have Diggs and 1552 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 1: Davis as surefire downfield threats. Khalil Shakir was coming on 1553 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the season and showed some encouraging signs. 1554 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: I don't want to put my eggs all in that basket. 1555 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 1: I think you need something else there, and we saw 1556 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: Josh did not trust or chose to avoid making the 1557 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 1: easy completions. I want somebody that can work the inside 1558 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 1: of the field that's going to be open in a 1559 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,599 Speaker 1: second and a half to two seconds to convince Josh 1560 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: I can trust that guy's going to be there. They 1561 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: never adequately replaced Cole Beasley in this offense last year, 1562 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 1: so much so that they brought Cole Beasley back. They 1563 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 1: brought him back, I think as an insurance policy in 1564 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 1: a year where they thought they might be losing some 1565 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,599 Speaker 1: guys to injury and they had some guys nicked up. 1566 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,599 Speaker 1: He saw thee Yeah, Jamison Crowder and that that's why 1567 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,160 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley was back in the fold because he was 1568 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 1: a plug in and play He knew the offense and 1569 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:22,840 Speaker 1: could run and drop Josh trush at him, so they 1570 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: didn't had very little acclamation process. He was brought back 1571 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: as an insurance policy. That shouldn't be an issue this year. 1572 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir should have a relationship with Josh, just like 1573 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,960 Speaker 1: you know McKenzie, just like Davis and just like Digs. 1574 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: Those guys should be at this point after having a 1575 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: full season under their belt. Josh Allen should know those guys, 1576 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 1: their body language, the way they come out of brakes, 1577 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and that should be difference. But 1578 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm with you, you need as many playmakers out there 1579 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: as you can get, whether it is a separator, a 1580 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,680 Speaker 1: route runner like you're talking about, or a speed guy 1581 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: like I'm talking about. You need more, not less out there. Yeah, 1582 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,320 Speaker 1: because as we've stated, it's an arms race in the 1583 01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,560 Speaker 1: AFC right now, And I think the Bills from a 1584 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,040 Speaker 1: depth of talent perspective at the receiver position are a 1585 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 1: little bit behind. I would almost gear, I would almost 1586 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: go to and you. We've talked about this. Where are 1587 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: you going there? Safe? We always exaggerate this to make 1588 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 1: a point. But first, second, third round, I'm getting big guys. 1589 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting big athletic guys down inside, either on the 1590 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 1: offense or the defensive line. Then I'm getting playmakers on 1591 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 1: the outside. You can get guys that are could because 1592 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have done it. They're guys out there. You 1593 01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: gotta go for somebody with a trait that translates to 1594 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,840 Speaker 1: your offense. But sky Moore was a second round pick 1595 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs, and if I remember right, yeah, second 1596 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,560 Speaker 1: round pick. I think I have that right. And he 1597 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 1: was not a size athlete. He was a separator, right 1598 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,560 Speaker 1: because he was like a receiver that was built like 1599 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 1: a running back, you know, And they saw value in that. 1600 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,200 Speaker 1: In round two, now they had already signed Juju Smith 1601 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 1: Schuster as their primary slot. They still had Kelsey, who 1602 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: could work the middle of the field and was a 1603 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 1: wall off player. I mean, I'm not saying that they 1604 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: don't shouldn't talk about saying yeah, I mean, I know 1605 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you're not speaking in absolutes, I get it right, But 1606 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm looking at it. I just think 1607 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: to help enhance the likelihood of getting a guy to 1608 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 1: add to your receiving core that could help you right away, 1609 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: it's probably gotta be in round one or two. Could 1610 01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,560 Speaker 1: you find somebody that can do more for you? Surprisingly 1611 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 1: so in round three or four, sure, but I don't 1612 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: like the odds of what the history has shown us 1613 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,600 Speaker 1: when you wait that long, right, So call me impatient, 1614 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 1: call me pessimistic, but round one or round two I 1615 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,720 Speaker 1: want to get somebody that's at least in the top 1616 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: six on my board the receiver position. So I feel 1617 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 1: good about. Hey, this kid's gonna come into camp and 1618 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna look like a George Pickens right in Pittsburgh 1619 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: where he's he's trash talking Minka Fitzpatrick in training camp, 1620 01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,640 Speaker 1: right saying you're not breaking up a pass on me 1621 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,479 Speaker 1: because I'm catching it right, and then went out and 1622 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: did it right. Yeah, give me one of those guys. 1623 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: They're rare, you got those, Those are the kind of 1624 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 1: guys you're fine gonna try and find um. But for 1625 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 1: everything you find out about him, that makes them that 1626 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,000 Speaker 1: guy thirty one of the teams find out that that's 1627 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: the guy they want to right, which is why I 1628 01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,400 Speaker 1: think you have to go early. Um, I mean you 1629 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 1: want to take the lineman first. I'm on board with you. 1630 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm on board with it. That's round two though. I 1631 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 1: think they're particularly given the fact that we've got guys 1632 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,280 Speaker 1: under contract who we know can play. You may not 1633 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 1: be have been satisfied with the season Gabe Davis had. 1634 01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 1: You may not be satisfied with the contribution Shakier was 1635 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 1: allowed to make, or satisfied with me. But those guys 1636 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,559 Speaker 1: are here, they're veterans in this offense, and you've got 1637 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 1: reason to believe there's a top end that they can reach. Still, so, 1638 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 1: and I get it, free agency is gonna change everything. 1639 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 1: But for now, right now, it's the big guys down inside, 1640 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:17,720 Speaker 1: on both sides of the line scrimmage that I'm the 1641 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,760 Speaker 1: most worried about. So today, for today's draft, I'm doing 1642 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,680 Speaker 1: it the way. I'm gonna get a big guys up 1643 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 1: front and fill in the playmakers on the back. Yeah, 1644 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: And obviously this conversation could change dramatically. It'll change tomorrow, 1645 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: by the way. But no, but but well, it will 1646 01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: also changed dramatically when we see what Brandon Deane adds 1647 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,679 Speaker 1: in free agency. Defensive tackle could be off the board 1648 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: as a need for the Bills because maybe they resigned 1649 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips and they get somebody else in free agency 1650 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh wow, that interior looks even better 1651 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,760 Speaker 1: than it did last year. Right, So you know, we 1652 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,439 Speaker 1: know free agency can change a lot of things. But 1653 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: I think receiver is one of those positions where we're 1654 01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,280 Speaker 1: hoping to see an addition in free agency right and 1655 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,679 Speaker 1: in the draft. And I'll say this too, There's gonna 1656 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 1: be some dudes in free agency. They're gonna be available. 1657 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can afford them. I don't 1658 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,400 Speaker 1: know if they'll fit under the cap. I don't know 1659 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,560 Speaker 1: if they'd want to sign you all that's expensive. But 1660 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm showing you what, man, there's gonna be some names 1661 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 1: out there that that Bills fans will be in a 1662 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 1: full lather to get into Bill's uniform. Full lather, Okay, 1663 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 1: and you and I will too, mean, well, can you 1664 01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 1: imagine Keenan Allen popping out and getting out on the 1665 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 1: free agent market. Yeah, you know, and DeAndre Hopkins getting 1666 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 1: out of the free agent Yeah yeah, Hopkins could be 1667 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,840 Speaker 1: traded and think about it. Sign me up for that, 1668 01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,320 Speaker 1: Sign me up for that. I'm so all these names 1669 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 1: are gonna be out there, and you know, the Bills 1670 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,720 Speaker 1: are in line to kick the tires on those guys. 1671 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,720 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the fun part. Remember how fun it 1672 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 1: was last year when they signed a guy, Von Miller. 1673 01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 1: It was weeks before I could even get my mind around, 1674 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: before I realized I saw a forty number forty jerseys, 1675 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 1: said Miller on the back. I could not remember who 1676 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 1: it was. Who's that? Like? What that must be? You 1677 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 1: guys name that guy's wearing its name? And sure, oh 1678 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's right, We've got Von Miller. Oh my god. 1679 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: I'll be there again too. There'll be another one like that. 1680 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, well, I wouldn't be sad if 1681 01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,040 Speaker 1: that was the case, because you're talking. I just don't 1682 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 1: know if they can really do top of the market stuff. 1683 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: So May and Brandon being gave us indication of that yesterday. 1684 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Another jam Pack show coming your way tomorrow, as we 1685 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,799 Speaker 1: are live at the NFL combine Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, 1686 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,640 Speaker 1: plenty more to bring your way. We will see you 1687 01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 1: at one pm, same bad time, same bad channel, same location,