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Speaker 2: The DP Show. Just got this in that Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: has been injured at the Jets practice. He was carted off.

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Speaker 2: He threw a pass, started limping off and they took

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Speaker 2: him off on a cart and no more injury updates.

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Speaker 2: As far as details with that, we'll keep you posted.

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Speaker 2: But he was carted off. It was a non contact

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Speaker 2: injury to his right leg. But that's according to Adam Schefter.

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Speaker 2: Pull question for hour two is gonna be watch Seaton

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Speaker 2: and give us the results from hour one if you can. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we put a couple up there for hour one.

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Speaker 3: We have up there your policy on rookie quarterbacks, you

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Speaker 3: start them or sit them. Sixty three percent of the

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Speaker 3: audience sit them, will Nick Saban ever coach again. Most

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Speaker 3: people believe no, if he was to coach again, will

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Speaker 3: it be in the NFL or college football? That one's

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Speaker 3: more interesting. That's fifty to fifty people are split between

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Speaker 3: the NFL and college football.

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Speaker 2: And if Nick Saban will ever coach again, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't think he coaches in college again. But the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I could see that maybe he might have that urge

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Speaker 2: to do it, but maybe it's just passing, just a

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Speaker 2: passing urge there, or maybe laying the groundwork there for

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. And if that's the case. Colin Cowherd

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Speaker 2: had that, calling it one of the worst kept secrets

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Speaker 2: in the South. Now, this came out initially with Greg McElroy,

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Speaker 2: the former Alabama quarterback now an analyst. He started talking

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Speaker 2: about he had a good source who was telling him,

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Speaker 2: and it might have been Lane Kiffin, because Kiffen has

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Speaker 2: now come out and said he thinks that Nick Saban's

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Speaker 2: going to coach again, so maybe that's where his source is.

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Speaker 2: But both said that they thought that Saban would be

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Speaker 2: coaching or they heard that he might be coaching again,

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Speaker 2: and is it going to be in the NFL. But

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Speaker 2: the NFL is tricky and coaching for that owner, and

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Speaker 2: if it's tied to Arch Manning, because that's what Colin

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Speaker 2: was saying, that it's kind of a package deal. The

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Speaker 2: Browns do have two first round draft picks, but you

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Speaker 2: have to get the number one pick. How many number

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Speaker 2: one picks first round picks are you going to give

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Speaker 2: up to get Arch Manning? If you don't have the

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Speaker 2: number one pick. What's it going to cost you to

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Speaker 2: get Arch Manning? Four number one picks? I mean we've

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Speaker 2: seen what teams you know, will give up to move

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Speaker 2: up in the draft, you know, even to get Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance or Mitchell Trubisky. What are you gonna I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna cost you a ton. Does Saban want to

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Speaker 2: give up all of that to get Arch Manning? Does

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Speaker 2: the Manning family want Arch to go and play for

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Speaker 2: that owner in Cleveland? Jimmy Haslin, I think there's just

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Speaker 2: too many I don't know about this or that has

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Speaker 2: to happen for this to happen. But until Saban says otherwise,

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Speaker 2: I guess we have to be open to the possibility. Yes, Mark,

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Speaker 2: but why are.

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Speaker 4: We giving arch Manning the title of the number one

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Speaker 4: pick in the draft? He's played maybe two games at Texas.

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Speaker 4: Is it just because of pedigree alone?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would say that has a lot to do

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Speaker 2: with it. If you know his name was Jimmy Lipper,

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Speaker 2: then he's probably not going to be projected as that

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Speaker 2: guy's going to be guaranteed number one pick overall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Ston Marvin took the words right out of my mouth.

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Speaker 3: The kid hasn't even played yet. Really, now we're getting

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Speaker 3: him to the Browns to trade four draft picks to

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Speaker 3: get Nick saban in to do all of this, and

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Speaker 3: the Mannings because of Haslam and Tennessee and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: The kid hasn't even played yet. I know, But that

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Speaker 2: why be a buzzkill. That's what we're trying to fill.

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Speaker 2: You know, they are filling July right now. That is true.

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Speaker 2: You're right, we are.

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Speaker 3: We're just filling July because everything we're talking about makes

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Speaker 3: zero sense from a.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, it does seem destiny because of the Manning name.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Eli Manning. His college career was good. He

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Speaker 5: had a really nice college career. He was the number

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Speaker 5: one overall draft pick. It wasn't really even a question

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Speaker 5: he didn't raise Ole Miss to some heights, or have

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Speaker 5: monstrous stats or win back to back heistmans. He went

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Speaker 5: number one because of the safety of the Manning name

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Speaker 5: at the quarterback position. It's a risk free draft pick.

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Speaker 5: Bonus coverage here. The Browns have two first round draft

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Speaker 5: picks next year, their own and the Jaguars, so they

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Speaker 5: have two chances for.

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Speaker 2: The number one pick. Okay, Well, I think Jacksonville is

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Speaker 2: going to be better. They better be better the Browns. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know they'll be in the running for worst team

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. I'm gonna guess what's what's the over under?

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Speaker 2: Can we find out DraftKings over under with the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns because it can't be more than five and a half?

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Speaker 2: Four and a half maybe for Cleveland win total. Yeah, Paul, The.

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Speaker 5: Cleveland Browns have the worst win loss over under for

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Speaker 5: the upcoming season at four and a half wins.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 5: The other teams in the mix there are the Saints,

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Speaker 5: the Giants, the Jets, and the Titans with five and

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Speaker 5: a half wins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Manning family, they live in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: His grandfather lives in New Orleans. When you want him

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Speaker 2: to go to the Saints, the hometown team, so they're

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Speaker 2: gonna They're gonna have a say in this as well. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At this point in their college careers, Eli Manning had

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Speaker 3: already played five more games than arch m.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: By the way, if I'm arch Manning, I'm staying at

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Speaker 5: Texas as long as I can.

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Speaker 2: I'll stay three more years. That's another thing that nobody's

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Speaker 2: factoring in. I don't see arch Manning coming out this year.

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Speaker 2: Money is not the issue. If the Cleveland Browns are

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Speaker 2: on the clock, does that make you want to go

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Speaker 2: to the NFL?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: If New Orleans? If New Orleans has the number one pick,

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Speaker 2: then I could see arch Manning doing that. But I

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Speaker 2: it's not a given that. Hell, unless he wins the

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Speaker 2: Heisman and they win the national title, and even then

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Speaker 2: he might go. Man, this is pretty good. I'm having fun.

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Speaker 2: Texas has done great recruiting surrounded him. He's helped out

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Speaker 2: recruiting players. I could see him being there for two

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Speaker 2: more years. Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: He has the best quarterback gig in the state of Texas,

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Speaker 5: pro or college. That's a perfect gig. Everybody wants Texas.

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Speaker 5: Everyone in that state roots for Texas well, and.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin and.

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Speaker 4: He might have a higher salary at Texas than he

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Speaker 4: will there's a rookie in the NFL, more fans at

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 2: Money, but money's not the issue.

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Speaker 6: Money.

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Speaker 2: Money won't be the issue for him where he'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta go. And he might like the college life.

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Speaker 2: He might realize that he needs to have more starts

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Speaker 2: before he goes to the NFL. But I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: You know, hey, the Browns are on the clock. Isn't

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Speaker 2: that enticing? I don't think so. Hey, Nick Saban could

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Speaker 2: be coaching the Browns, okay, I you know, trying to

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Speaker 2: understand what a twenty year old is, you know, factoring

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Speaker 2: in here. But he's going to get all this advice

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Speaker 2: from whether it's his grandfather or his uncle's or his dad.

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Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian. You know, I see him stay in another year.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, Joe Burrow, it feels like the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years, he gets in front of the media

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Speaker 2: this time of the year and has to talk about

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Speaker 2: the player who aren't in camp. And Joe Burrow did

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Speaker 2: that yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously disappointing.

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Speaker 8: You know, you'd like to have have all your guys

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Speaker 8: out there, dang wan to try to build that cohesion

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Speaker 8: that I was talking about earlier.

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Speaker 2: But that's it's not how it usually works out.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's a business and that is uh how's gone.

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Speaker 2: Okay? He probably said this last year X year. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we'd like to have everybody in camp. It's a distraction, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it's a business, and uh nice to everybody here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like Mad Lives. You plug in a player name,

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Speaker 5: I really hope that who is it this year? It's

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Speaker 5: T Higgins. I really hope t Higgins gets fair. No,

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Speaker 5: I really hope Hendrick Skins could whatever.

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Speaker 2: Here's Russell Wilson now with the Giants. But doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: what team he's on, he usually says the same things.

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Speaker 8: I'm always just focused on being the best version of

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Speaker 8: me every day, you know. For me, you know, my

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Speaker 8: mentality is always to be the best.

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Speaker 6: In the world.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't I don't know anything else other

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Speaker 8: than that. Just trying to having that mentality and helping

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Speaker 8: our football team win.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that's the big thing that.

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Speaker 8: I'm really how you focused on is is elevating our practice,

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Speaker 8: elevating our play elevating our mentality and having a championship

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Speaker 8: mentality daily different uniform.

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Speaker 2: Sam Russ just he sounds like a life coach there,

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Speaker 2: just trying to, you know, give you a better version

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Speaker 2: of me every single day. That's what I'm doing. To

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Speaker 2: a tongue ioloa. He uh wow. He tip toed close

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Speaker 2: to the fire here his relationship with Tyreek Hill, and

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Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised, but maybe it talks about,

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Speaker 2: you know, to wanting to be the leader in Miami,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Tyreek Hill has had a lot of

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Speaker 2: these little hints or hey I'm out of here, or

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Speaker 2: you know some you know emojis where you're trying to

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Speaker 2: read between the lines with that. But uh Tua was

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Speaker 2: asked about his relationship with Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 9: When you say something like that, it's you don't just

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Speaker 9: come back from that with hey my bad. You know,

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Speaker 9: you got you got to work that that relationship up.

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Speaker 9: You got to build everything up again. And it's still

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Speaker 9: a work in progress, not just for me but for everybody.

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Speaker 9: But like I said, he's he's working on himself. He's

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Speaker 9: working on the things that he say. You know, he

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Speaker 9: on So that's the first step to me, and so

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Speaker 9: I commend him for doing that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tyreek seems to be it feels like more

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Speaker 2: motivated in trying to be you know, beat Noah Lyles,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the one hundred meter dash, like that

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Speaker 2: seems to be more important than football. And he did

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Speaker 2: say last year, I'm out, and I think that's what

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Speaker 2: two is talking about, like you got to kind of

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Speaker 2: earn your way back into this locker room. So I'm

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm fine with him doing that, Like there's

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Speaker 2: accountability here. And if you want to be that leader

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Speaker 2: and you're asking Tyreek Hill to be all in, then

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Speaker 2: I it's one of those that did you have the

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Speaker 2: conversation with him privately? Like that would if I'm a

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Speaker 2: member of the media, I would say, how much of

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Speaker 2: you discussed this with Tyreek Hill? Because if he says, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have talked to him about that, because I don't

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Speaker 6: You should have won?

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Speaker 2: hour two? Why is Marvin so mean? Oh? There's four

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Speaker 2: Because mcgleven wasn't mean. No, he wasn't mean. He was calculated.

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Speaker 2: I remember we had a meat Friday and he complained

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Speaker 10: And yes, Tod, didn't you also slap him on the

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Speaker 2: He snuck out on a meat Friday and I caught

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Speaker 4: So currently the meanest dan is the Danet that's not

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Speaker 2: You know, which one of us? Did me all right out?

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Speaker 7: on the same day Mike Brown at age eighty nine

437
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 7: and Jerry Jones at age eighty two are making comments

438
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 7: that don't really help them or their franchise. You know,

439
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 7: I guess I think of it this way, Dan, My

440
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 7: grandpa is one of my favorite people in the world

441
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Speaker 7: that I ever had in my life. I wouldn't have

442
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 7: wanted him speaking publicly after age eighty. And I don't

443
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 7: know if you know some of these guys, I don't

444
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 7: know if Jerry Jones is just maybe they're just at

445
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 7: the age where they just don't care, you know, like

446
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 7: they're in their eighties.

447
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 6: But Jerry Jones out here.

448
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 7: Saying, well, yeah, you want us to do these contracts early.

449
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 7: We did tray Von Diggs and Terrence Deele and you

450
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 7: saw how that went. And then he says, hey, we

451
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 7: made back the highest paid guy he missed two thirds

452
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 7: of the season.

453
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 6: We could sign mikeh but he missed for it.

454
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 7: I mean, Jerry Jones just doesn't care at all, and

455
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 7: he's just putting it out there. I've come to the

456
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 7: conclusion this Dan, I think there's two reasons because I

457
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 7: have racked my brain to try to understand the logic

458
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 7: of why the Cowboys operate the way they do contracts

459
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 7: you with their star players.

460
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Speaker 6: I think there's two things. One is risk slash liability.

461
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 7: Right, as soon as you give that guy the huge deal,

462
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 7: then the injury risk and the off field risk really falls.

463
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 6: On the team more than the player.

464
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 7: And I think Jerry Jones is on some level willing

465
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 7: to pay to just put that risk on the player.

466
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Speaker 6: As long as possible.

467
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 7: What if Michaeh Parsons gets hurt on the field or

468
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 7: off the field.

469
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 6: What if he gets in trouble?

470
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 7: Right, the only other rookie other than Stewart that hasn't

471
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 7: signed a contract yet is Brown's running back Quinn Shawn

472
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 7: Judkins because of that domestic battery arrest down in Florida.

473
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 7: You know, maybe they're waiting till the last possible second.

474
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 7: The other thing is, and we know this, Jerry realized

475
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 7: a few years ago that nothing generates attention during training

476
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 7: camp like a star player holdout. It's the top of

477
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 7: every website every day. The latest thing that Jerry said

478
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 7: about Micah's contractor that Micah Parsons said to the media.

479
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 7: You know, if you tried to calculate the free publicity,

480
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 7: the free pr that the Cowboys get every day that

481
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 7: Mike has not signed, it probably helps to make up

482
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 7: for what they're gonna have to pay him, which is more.

483
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 7: The problem is, and Cowboys fans know this. Waiting this

484
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 7: long makes you pay more, eats up more of the

485
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 7: salary gap. It's not good for the team. It's not

486
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 7: good for the football product on the field, even if

487
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 7: maybe it's beneficial for the business off the field.

488
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: And then you got the Bengals situation. By the way,

489
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: those are all fair points that you made there. The

490
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Bengals situation, you have an owner who inherited a football team,

491
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: and he is now saying that Trey Hendrickson shouldn't be

492
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: so emotional when it comes to his contract, and then

493
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: he gets emotional talking about the first round pick Shamar Stewart,

494
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: who's not in camp, and that you know this, I

495
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: forget what the word was, a foolishness. So he's getting

496
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: animated while complaining about Trey Hendrickson getting animated. And then

497
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: the Shamar Stewart logic here of Hey, they want to

498
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: put language in there that if I violate the Code

499
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: of Conduct policy then they're not going to pay me.

500
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: And then Mike Brown says, we don't want to pay

501
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: somebody who's going to be in jail. So if I'm

502
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart, don't I have enough confidence in myself that

503
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: I won't end up in jail. Therefore I don't need

504
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: that language there. Get paid, get in camp, stay out

505
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: of jail. That's not asking too much, is it.

506
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of good stuff there.

507
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 7: Dan, Let's start with Mike Brown and what he said

508
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 7: about emotional cause that reminds me of when one of

509
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 7: the times when I got cut during my career, someone

510
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 7: was saying, like it's not personal you know, this is

511
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 7: just part of the business.

512
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 6: And I said, it's not personal. You kind of just fired.

513
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 7: Me, like, like, this is my life, this is my dream.

514
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 7: I've been doing this since I was five. You kind

515
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 7: of just fired me. It's going to be in the

516
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 7: cover paper of my hometown newspaper. Like there's nothing more

517
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 7: personal than this, Like this is like not this, It's

518
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 7: as personal as it gets. So I always laugh at

519
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 7: that part of it. I'll say two things on the

520
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 7: Bengals because these are two separate issues, right. The Trey

521
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 7: Hendrickson thing. You know, Dan, he signed a band aid

522
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 7: extension two years ago where he tacked on that extra year,

523
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 7: right He otherwise would have been a free agent this year.

524
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 7: And I think he and his representatives should have realized

525
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 7: it's the Bengals, right, like they're gonna do what they

526
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 7: can contractually and hold your feet to the fire. He

527
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 7: shouldn't have done that band aid a couple of years

528
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 7: ago if he didn't want to. And I have no

529
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 7: idea why any of these guys hold out anymore. He's

530
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 7: costing himself fifty thousand dollars a day, and the Bengals

531
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 7: are not the type of organization that's gonna make up

532
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 7: for that with the contract that they give you. You know,

533
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 7: there's other guys out that Michael Parsons isn't practicing right now.

534
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 6: He says his back is tight or whatever.

535
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 7: Right, We've seen guys hold in in recent years, Brandon Aiyuk,

536
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 7: Jamar Chase last year. Remember the first few days last

537
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 7: year at training camp, Tuatungo bay Aloa.

538
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: And Jordan Love were both holdens.

539
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 7: So why guys like Hendrick sin or McLaurin just throw

540
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 7: away fifty k per day is beyond me.

541
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 6: I don't understand the logic there. Report.

542
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 7: You're actually more of a distraction if you're there and

543
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 7: you're talking to media every day and you say your

544
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 7: hamstring hurts or your back hurts or whatever. The stupid

545
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 7: thing which I think the Bengals don't realize, is he's

546
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 7: gonna sign a four year, fully guaranteed contract.

547
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 6: He's not eligible for a new deal regardless until after

548
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: his third year.

549
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 7: Right, So whatever he's missing right now, he missed the offseason.

550
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 6: He's missing training camp.

551
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 7: The Bengals, Joe Burrow and these two star receivers in

552
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 7: their prime. In my opinion, Dan, it's actually more critical

553
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 7: or there should be a greater sense of urgency for

554
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 7: the Bengals to get Shamar Stewart in and get him

555
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 7: ready to contribute this year after their defense was horrendous

556
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 7: last year.

557
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 6: Then it is for Shamar Stewart. I mean, the reality

558
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 6: is he.

559
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 7: Could do nothing the next two years, but if his

560
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 7: third year he balls out, well, then he's going to

561
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 7: get a new contract. So the onus to me to

562
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 7: get Stuart in is on the Bengals. If this contract

563
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 7: language is that important to them, then bump up his

564
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 7: signing bonus. They like to give him half now and

565
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 7: half in six months. Throw them a bone. Here's half now,

566
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 7: we'll give the other half in a month. Sign this

567
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 7: thing that says if you go to jail, we don't.

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 6: Have to pay you.

569
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the news. Justin Fields

570
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: was carted off practice with the Jets today, and I

571
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: don't know the severity of this. I'm waiting for Chefty

572
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: to have an update on this. Kirk Cousins is going

573
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: to be in play at some point to some team.

574
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: It feels like now, once again, I don't know the

575
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: injury and the severity of that, but it just feels

576
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: like Kirk Cousins is in the on deck circle for now.

577
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Jets say we're willing to

578
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: bring in somebody like that with the amount of money

579
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: that they're probably going to have to pay, it's probably

580
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: going to have to be a team that, you know,

581
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: they're going to be a playoff team if they lose

582
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, a starting quarterback. But I'm not sure if

583
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: the Jets would have Kirk Cousins in play or the

584
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: number of teams that would be considering Kirk Cousins.

585
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, yeah, it's a great point, Dan,

586
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 7: and I'll you know, no matter.

587
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 6: How severe the injury is to.

588
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 7: Fields, I'll actually give the Atlanta Falcons some credit for

589
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 7: hanging on to Cousins and not kind of selling low

590
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 7: during the offseason because an injury like this, you know,

591
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 7: the Jets or if he's out for the year, the

592
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 7: Jets are not going to go into the season with

593
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 7: the other guys they have on the roster right now

594
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 7: as their starter, right, They're not going to have that

595
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 7: be the case. So that makes Kirk Cousins very much

596
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 7: in play because remember this, right, Aaron Glenn, new head

597
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 7: coach Mouji, the new GM they're trying to establish their culture.

598
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: It's a new regime, and I think they.

599
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 7: Want to get off to a good start in terms

600
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 7: of having a solid season and winning, and Cousins would

601
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: give them that opportunity. The flip side, which is fascinating, okay,

602
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 7: is that it's supposed to be a really good draft

603
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 7: for quarterbacks.

604
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 6: We know all the guys Arch Manning and nuss Meyer

605
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 6: and Drew Aller and all the names that are out there.

606
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 6: You know, maybe there's a case to be made where

607
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 6: the Jets.

608
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 7: Say, oh, it's tough luck with fields, and you know,

609
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 7: there's nobody else really out there.

610
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 6: We got to go with these guys.

611
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 7: And then maybe the Jets get the number one pick

612
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 7: in the draft and they have their pick of what's

613
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 7: supposed to be a really good draft class.

614
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 6: There's really two ways they could go.

615
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 7: They could go the Cousins or maybe try to sign

616
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 7: Ryan Tannehill.

617
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: But I think we all forgot just didn't play football

618
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 6: last year.

619
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 7: Maybe they go that route to try to still be

620
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 7: competitive this year, or maybe they use this as an

621
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 7: excuse to throw their hands up and play a little moneyball,

622
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 7: if you will, and get the number one overall pick.

623
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: Why is it. Next year's draft is always the best

624
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: draft for quarterback, right because until next year, you.

625
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 7: Know why, because we haven't picked these guys apart yet, right, Like,

626
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 7: you only pick the guys apart that are in that

627
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 7: year's class. Then it's when it's the next year you think, oh, man,

628
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 7: I saw Aler do this against Oregon.

629
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: I saw that him do that. I saw nuss Meyer

630
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: do this.

631
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 7: But then when you just are like when they're the

632
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 7: guy the next year and we all watch him every

633
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 7: week and really critique him, then you start to find

634
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 7: the flaws and the warts. But we're not at that

635
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 7: stage yet. That'll happen about midway through this year. There

636
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 7: will start to be some reports.

637
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 6: You know, he's really not as good as we thought

638
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: he was. Yeah.

639
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: A friend of mine who's a scout, he always laughs,

640
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: you know when I do, you know, have a draft

641
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: analysts on and because he knows that once they get

642
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: their hands on somebody like that's that's the real stuff.

643
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: The other stuff is just sort of, hey, I think

644
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: this guy's got you know, a great high upside. Uh

645
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, he does this and that, and the scouts

646
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: go in there and go, okay, guys, you guys done. Now,

647
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: let us go to work, and then all of a

648
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: sudden we go you know, such and such as slipping. Well,

649
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: maybe he was put up too high to begin with,

650
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: because the scouts wouldn't have put him up there, or

651
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: somebody's rising, just like that happened with Mahomes. When my

652
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: friend said, after we sat down with him, then all

653
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: of a sudden, we realized that if we're going to

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Speaker 2: go get him, we're gonna have to trade up to

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Speaker 2: get this guy. And he said, you know, they didn't

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Speaker 2: get the Mahomes in Kansas City, but he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's when you realize, like, oh my gosh, It's like

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Speaker 2: when Jerry West worked out Kobe and he said, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna shut it down. Wait, he's only been working

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Speaker 2: out fifteen minutes. We've seen enough. We don't want anybody

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Speaker 2: to realize just how good this kid is.

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Speaker 6: You know, Dan, it happened this offseason.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly what happened with Shador Sanders and Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 7: I mean, in November, Shador Sanders was going to be

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Speaker 7: the number one or number two pick, and nobody even knew.

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Speaker 6: Who Tyler Shuck was.

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Speaker 7: He's the kid that gets injured all the time that

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Speaker 7: used to be at Oregon. But then when the scouts

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Speaker 7: got in there and really watched the tape, and then

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Speaker 7: when they met with them, Shuck went like this and

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Speaker 7: Shador went like this, and hand.

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Speaker 6: Signal are not great for radio.

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Speaker 7: So I will tell everybody that Shuck shot up and

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Speaker 7: Shador Sanders went down.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you. We'll talk soon. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Oh he sounds great. Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: That's Ross Tucker, the Ross Tucker Football podcast, and he

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Speaker 2: calls games for CBS in Westwood One. We love you know,

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Speaker 2: when the draft analyst and you know guys are going

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Speaker 2: to put uh uh you know these pages social media,

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Speaker 2: we eat it up, you know, we we love it.

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Speaker 2: We like the speculation. Hey, give me the mock draft

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Speaker 2: for this year. You can already find mock drafts. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know how good arch Manning is. I now,

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Speaker 2: I know how good we're told he is, or I

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Speaker 2: saw glimpses of that, but I don't. I don't know. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was talking about Shuck, who's going to

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Speaker 2: start for the New Orleans Saints. You know my source said,

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Speaker 2: when he once again they realized how bright he was.

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Speaker 2: That Yes, there's injuries, but they realized how bright he

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Speaker 2: was when they throw a play out or explain what

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Speaker 2: you did on this play, or explain what is happening

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Speaker 2: on this play. They said that that's what really stood out.

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Speaker 2: He could make the throws. Yes, he's a little bit older,

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Speaker 2: but you could give him a game plan right away,

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Speaker 2: and that stood out and he'll end up being probably

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Speaker 2: the starting quarterback for the Saints. We have an update

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Speaker 2: on Justin Field's injury. We'll also play an NFL game

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 2: an update. This is from me in Rapaport Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: who left training camp practice today. He was carted off

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Speaker 2: after suffering a lower leg injury. According to a head

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Speaker 2: coach Aaron Glenn, it is a toe injury. Glenn indicated

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Speaker 2: that he believes somebody stepped on Justin Field's foot, so

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Speaker 2: I guess that's good news. We don't know the severity

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Speaker 2: of the toe injury, but it's not a knee, but

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Speaker 2: we'll see when he's able to return to training camp.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, there are certain words on injury reports or

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Speaker 5: news reports that really get you nervous. Cart it off

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Speaker 5: phrase cart it off really makes you nervous. They could

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Speaker 5: have just carted him to the trainer because it's far

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Speaker 5: and it's hot. He doesn't didn't, you know, with it and.

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Speaker 2: A toe injury.

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Speaker 5: A toe injury because it's a small body part doesn't

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Speaker 5: sound like a big deal, but it could be a

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Speaker 5: really bad injury.

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Speaker 2: Unless you get turf toe. Because players will tell you

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Speaker 2: about turf toe. I know it's uh doesn't sound that threatening,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it ended. I think Jack Lambert's career,

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Speaker 2: Dion dealt with it. Dion's still dealing with it. Uh,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that that's there's always that possibility

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Speaker 2: of turf toe. You know, when somebody says, how did

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Speaker 2: your career end? Turf toe? Huh? Yeah, it's like how

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Speaker 2: did the planner fasci ey do well, that costs todd.

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Speaker 10: He was picking right, it's a lot tougher think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think you got to say he was.

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Speaker 10: Driven over or escorted to the sidelines, so people don't

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Speaker 10: panic right away. To police's point, because that card thing

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Speaker 10: sounds like, oh my god, they're gonna miss weeks one

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Speaker 10: through nine now because he had to be carried off

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Speaker 10: the field or carted off the field. Anything was carried

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Speaker 10: or cart it is just terrible.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but he was taken away on a cart, so

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Speaker 2: he was carted all I was.

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Speaker 10: Helped over to the sideline. Just until you find out

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Speaker 10: more things about him. Why panic everybody.

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Speaker 2: Because we're the media. Yes, yes, paul.

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Speaker 5: Even the way you said it taken away on a cart,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, well, of course he'd be taken away

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Speaker 5: a cart.

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Speaker 2: He's the quarterback, and but cart it off. Was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, we have an NFL game. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the NFL game is, but Paulie, you're here to

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Speaker 2: tell me.

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Speaker 5: Here it is, Dan, I was thinking about this. The

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Speaker 5: NFL team you're most curious to see how they're gonna

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Speaker 5: do this.

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Speaker 2: Year, good or bad? Curious.

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Speaker 5: I'll go first and give you an example. I'm very

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Speaker 5: curious to see what the Las Vegas Raiders do this year.

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Speaker 5: They have a new head coach in Pete Carroll, who

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Speaker 5: has a great track record. Gino Smith is a good quarterback.

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Speaker 5: They bring an Ashton genty and he's gonna get a

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Speaker 5: lot of run. That established as a running game. Brock

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Speaker 5: Bauers was super last year. They appears they have a

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Speaker 5: good offense and a good defense, and nobody's talking about them.

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Speaker 5: So I'm curious about the.

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Speaker 2: Raiders, Todd, who were you curious about?

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Speaker 10: I am extremely curious about the Pittsburgh Steelers. Is this

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Speaker 10: gonna be an amazing thing? It's just gonna be a disaster.

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Speaker 10: I don't see it's going in the middle ground. Even

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Speaker 10: though the Steelers have been that average nine win team.

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Speaker 10: What is going to happen to the Steelers with Aaron

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Speaker 10: Rodgers this year?

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Speaker 2: All right? Seton, who were you curious about?

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about the Arizona Cardinals. They were like four

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Speaker 3: and thirteen there then they doubled their win total last year.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is healthy.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they've maybe upgraded a couple of pieces there.

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Speaker 3: This might be the first time in a while, we're

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Speaker 3: getting a true sense of what the Cardinals and Kyler

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Speaker 3: Murray are like.

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought that Marvin Harrison junior the third was

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Speaker 2: going to be that guy who got one hundred catches.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe year or two, Marvin, Who are you curious about?

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Speaker 4: I'm curious about the Atlanta Falcons. Well, Michael Pennick's junior

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Speaker 4: at the Helm. Now I think Kyle Pitts, I thought

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Speaker 4: he was going to be a position life changer. Drake London,

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Speaker 4: b John Robinson, I think he got a lot of talent,

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Speaker 4: But I'd love to see what Pennis Une he does

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Speaker 4: for them at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Those are all great curiosities. I'm curious about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: And you got a new coach who did wonders with

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield in Tampa as offensive coordinator and can he help?

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Speaker 2: Are we going to see the full potential? Trevor Lawrence Like,

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Speaker 2: we're getting to the point where you go, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and maybe this is the year there's some magic there,

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Speaker 2: you know. They I thought that they were going to

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Speaker 2: win that division last year. I thought that they had

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Speaker 2: the talent to do that. Thought the Texans would take

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a drop there, but man hasn't happened.

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Speaker 2: They probably still in the the after stink of Urban

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Speaker 2: Meyer there. It feels like he can't blame him now, Yes,

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Speaker 2: PAULI bonus pick.

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Speaker 5: How about the Seattle Seahawks ten and seven last year?

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Speaker 5: They bring in Sam Darnold and let Gino Smith go

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Speaker 5: Which direction? Will it go better or worse?

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Speaker 2: You lose DK Metca Yes?

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Speaker 6: Tom? What should the.

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Speaker 10: Curiosity level be of the Detroit Lions after the way

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Speaker 10: things went so horribly at the end? Can they shake

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Speaker 10: that off and bounce back? This still great team? But

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Speaker 10: what will be of the Lions especially the first few

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Speaker 10: weeks of the season?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Tod, Welcome to I got a bonus curiosity

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Speaker 2: team Final Hour on the way on this Thursday. Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 2: former coach, he'll join us. I hope you'll stay with us.

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Speaker 2: Fritzy Seat and Marv Paully yours truly