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Speaker 1: we got a lot of Michigan fans showing up. I'm

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Speaker 1: and legend do this every single day. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: But today here, here's gonna my planning for dam I mean,

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Speaker 1: Uh in the end, like always, it's insane. Um Lord

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Speaker 1: This time there was no weather. Yeah, it is kind

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Speaker 1: are you seeing this? Uh? Let me? Okay, that is

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Speaker 1: post game or something like. I just thought it was

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Speaker 1: so fat as a watching these two heavyweights to battle,

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Speaker 1: but at the corner of my eye constantly checking in

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Speaker 1: and Clemson's up early. South Carolina fights back and the

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Speaker 1: just un real, stupid, inexplicable renaissance of Spencer Rattler continues.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand it. He's just so damn good

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, even throwing a pick on the

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Speaker 1: one yard line this game, Um, he could just send

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Speaker 1: it like. I don't know where this has been all year,

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Speaker 1: And granted I haven't want South Carolina closely enough all year.

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Speaker 1: I've checked in on him here and there, but every

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Speaker 1: time I did, Rattler was very unimpressive and the offense

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Speaker 1: was very impressive. Today. At one point from I don't

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Speaker 1: know where this ended up, Rattler had his longest completion

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Speaker 1: of his career, not once but twice a day, but

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Speaker 1: at one point on passes that went twenty plus yards

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Speaker 1: in the air. These are low percentage passes. Rattler was

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Speaker 1: six of nine for two forty eight and a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And then he started to heat up as the game

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Speaker 1: went on, and he started playing like a killer. So

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Speaker 1: let's be aggressive, let's go kill him, telling Jeems, we've

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Speaker 1: gotta get the nail on the coffin. And here at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, Shane Biemer has South Carolina

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Speaker 1: playing some incredible football to end the season. I mean

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Speaker 1: to beat Tennessee and now Clemson and back to back

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Speaker 1: weeks to um, you know, borderline playoff teams is a

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Speaker 1: very fair way to describe that. That might be from you.

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Speaker 1: You would be hard pressed to find me a better

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Speaker 1: series of two wins in South Carolina football history. Like,

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Speaker 1: they do not have a very storied history, and so

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Speaker 1: to beat two top ten teams that are borderline playoffs

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Speaker 1: just an unbelievable job by Shane Biemer and you gotta

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Speaker 1: love it. At the end of the game. Uh, they

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Speaker 1: actually close it out by forcing a turnover on special teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't Uh yeah, exactly, dude. I mean

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Speaker 1: that was perfect. But it's like, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the Beamers do. They're like some sort of alchemists or

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Speaker 1: arcane uh magic users where they have secrets and other

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Speaker 1: coaches just do not have. Like they're up there with

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Speaker 1: like John Harbords up like their ability to official to

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Speaker 1: two to consistently create game changing separation and the special

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Speaker 1: team's phase of the game kind of boggles the mind.

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Speaker 1: And so again they come up with a huge turnover.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina gets a big first down to just go

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Speaker 1: ahead and make sure there's not even a play left

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Speaker 1: for for Clemson. And uh and the end, Clemson is

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Speaker 1: who we thought they were, right, I mean, uh, what

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Speaker 1: did we tell you, Brom? How many weeks ago? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: now like two months ago? When I was yelling about

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Speaker 1: being a coxman, that that that that that essentially South

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Speaker 1: Carolina would be the last final hope for all of

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Speaker 1: us who thought that Clemson was taking advantage of basically

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Speaker 1: playing down against week lesser talented as we before. After

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Speaker 1: they beat Wake Forest. Yes, there we go, dude, So

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Speaker 1: shout out to the Cocks. Dude getting it done. It's

483
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Speaker 1: like a good speech from Team America World Police. Hey,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's kind of well, I probably might be too

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Speaker 1: many curse words go into that. I will not, But

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Speaker 1: if you've seen in Team America, you know the analogy

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Speaker 1: that I'm talking about. Great job by South Carolina, and Brom,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you do. The worst thing that

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Speaker 1: I can say about Clemson here is that it was

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Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty three minutes and thirty seconds left. They

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Speaker 1: had ninety yards to drive the ball, and I cannot

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Speaker 1: tell you how impossible. That felt for DJ You like

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Speaker 1: it was it was just it just seemed insurmountable, Like what,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the opposite of destiny is, but

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Speaker 1: that's how Clemson felt like that. You. No one believes.

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Speaker 1: I believed like once they're up in, they're rolling, but

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Speaker 1: any sort of tight battle, No one believes in DJ You.

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Speaker 1: No one believes in Dabbo. They have a long way

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Speaker 1: togo to be getting back to the program they were

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Speaker 1: four or five years ago. Just not dynamic enough, offensive,

501
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Speaker 1: making too many mistakes like dropping balls, playmakers, not threatening enough,

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Speaker 1: and then sure enough they don't go the nine yards

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Speaker 1: to give them back South Carolina. And at that point

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Speaker 1: South Carolina actually is giving it back to Clinton. And

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Speaker 1: then and it marks the first win for South Carolina

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Speaker 1: over Clinton since um brom im I I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bleed out my ears if I go too

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Speaker 1: deep on hypothetical playoffs scenarios. But what's wait, what's what? Well?

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Speaker 1: You can like, we can wait on all that. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's enough news. We can talk Matt Rule, we can

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Speaker 1: talk Wayne Kevin. I will say, though, Brom you you

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Speaker 1: you you gave me an awful omen right before the

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Speaker 1: show began. Uh, an evil force thought vanquished the worst

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Speaker 1: people in all of college football, like a shadow or

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Speaker 1: a cock, a roach rising from the cracks in the house.

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Speaker 1: Fan Duel has odds on Alabama playoffs and Natty Again,

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Speaker 1: don't they they do? They have the fifth best odds

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Speaker 1: to win the national title. Jesus Christ, you think they're dead?

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Speaker 1: And then the Crimson Emperor, rearing from the grave says,

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Speaker 1: R not so fast. Uh. Yeah, So Bama has not

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Speaker 1: been listed on VANDUL or the other major sports books,

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Speaker 1: and now Bama is back. But let's tell the play out.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to se where goes and I don't really

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Speaker 1: feel like getting into hypothetical playoff talk right now. Um. Hey,

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Speaker 1: shout out Vandal sports Book Gap. Shout out everybody hanging

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Speaker 1: And uh, as you can see, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a great week of snaps. Let's get into some of

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Speaker 1: the other news of the day though. So a really

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Speaker 1: big early slate here on Saturday got me fired up

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Speaker 1: for some late night Oh man, somehow Palpatine returned. Oh

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Speaker 1: a lot of people ask about this shirt. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: probably my favorite shirt today. Oh my wife got this

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Speaker 1: for me randomly a couple of years ago. I think

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Speaker 1: it's called the Roosevelt, which I apologize for the free

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Speaker 1: advertising from. But um, I do love this. It's all good.

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Speaker 1: It's an awesome shirt. You're free advertising every day you

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Speaker 1: wear it. Uh, yeah, I guess it's true. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's true. UM, maybe yeah, I have sales redoubt Roosevelt. Um.

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Speaker 1: All right, so the other big news from another thing

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Speaker 1: we've been telling you for weeks and weeks and weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's like the theme in pulp fiction when you accidentally

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Speaker 1: shoot someone in the back of your car. You got

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Speaker 1: brains all over the car. You got a really low point.

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Speaker 1: Who do you call? You call the roolf? Okay, the fixer,

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Speaker 1: Matt rule. Right now, Nebraska is a football program that

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Speaker 1: essentially has a poor young man's brains blown out all

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Speaker 1: over the back of the car. It's disgusting. It's awful

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Speaker 1: to watch, now, you know, kind of a frisky finish

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Speaker 1: here with Mickey and company. And and and I am

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Speaker 1: impressed with the job that Mickey Joseph did there. And

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Speaker 1: I would hope that he would stick on staff with

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule. Also shoutout Trey Palmer, former l s U

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Speaker 1: wide receiver had a great year over a thousand yards

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Speaker 1: for Nebraska this year. But a program that nonetheless I am,

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Speaker 1: I am I crazy and saying they're the longest bulless

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Speaker 1: streak in the nation. There's maybe it's out of the

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Speaker 1: power of five teams. I can't exactly, remember, But but

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Speaker 1: you all know how it's bad. It's been for Nebraska, right,

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Speaker 1: one of the most story programs in history. Well, what

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Speaker 1: does Matt Rule do, bro He takes over bad programs

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Speaker 1: and he makes them good immediately, well kind of immediately.

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Speaker 1: Normally year one goes awful. Um, which is gonna be

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Speaker 1: funny because I don't think there's gonna be any excuses

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Speaker 1: for year one to go awful this time around. But

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Speaker 1: you call the fixer, you get Matt Rule in there.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes too much sense. Don't tell me

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Speaker 1: you can't recruit to Lincoln, Okay, because in the age

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Speaker 1: of n I L you can recruit to anywhere just

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Speaker 1: pay people. If A and M can recruit to college station,

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Speaker 1: Nebraska can recruit to Lincoln. I keep saying this. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if this is true, but I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: Warren Buffett and some of his cronies and his empire

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Speaker 1: are big Nebraska football fans. I do not think money

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Speaker 1: is going to be an option. Um. And so look,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great day for Nebraska fans. Beating

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Speaker 1: iway yesterday had to feel good. Now you get the

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Speaker 1: number one target on your board. In Matt Rule a

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Speaker 1: guy who if he doesn't work, if nothing else C A.

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Speaker 1: D Could say, well, I don't know, man, look at

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Speaker 1: his resume. And I'm not talking about Caroline. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about things in the NFL. That'd be a pointless

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Speaker 1: thing to critique anyway, because we see how um, there's

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Speaker 1: no like if a college coach goes to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and fails and comes back to college. It's it's pretty

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Speaker 1: much proven over time that if he was good in college,

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Speaker 1: he'll be good there again. It's only guys getting the

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Speaker 1: first opportunity in the league that sometimes you're not sure about.

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Speaker 1: So no, I think Matt Rule is kind of a

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Speaker 1: sure bet. And I think he's gonna be very good

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Speaker 1: for Nebraska. And uh yeah, dude, I think look Corn

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Speaker 1: is hot right now. TikTok kid. Uh, he's famous as

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Speaker 1: hell over Corn. Um, I I brom you are a

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule hater. Uh so I wanted to be the

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Speaker 1: Devil's Okay, Okay, yes, um, let's let's go. It's splitting

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Speaker 1: hairs and semantic sure. Uh, why are you doubting Matt

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Speaker 1: Rule to Nebraska? I am as a general philosophy thing.

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Speaker 1: I him out on CEO coaches that do not have

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Speaker 1: long track workers of success, It would not be the

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Speaker 1: higher I would make. That being said, I it was

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Speaker 1: probably the number one option on their board and probably

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Speaker 1: has the highest level of success if anyone they could

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Speaker 1: have realistically got. So I'm not saying it's it would

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Speaker 1: be ridiculous to say that Matt Rule is a bad higher.

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Speaker 1: It is not the higher that I would make, and

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Speaker 1: I do not expect him to have great level of

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Speaker 1: success there. Does that make sense? Uh? Yes? Okay. But

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Speaker 1: in saying not if you have a great levels of success,

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Speaker 1: they're two things. Are you saying that because of Matt

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Speaker 1: Rule or because do you just doubt Nebraska overall? Because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people just say that Nebraska isn't like

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Speaker 1: just can't be Nebraska anymore because of how modern football words.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska will never be Nebraska anymore. But Nebraska could be

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Speaker 1: Penn State. I think that's a realistic ceiling for that. Okay, Okay, Gay,

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that you don't think Rule can get

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Speaker 1: them to being Penn State though, correct, That is what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay. I'm just making sure that we're very

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Speaker 1: clear on where we stand. Um. See, I think he can.

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Speaker 1: I think he can. I think I think it's what

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Speaker 1: he did a temple when he took over, and they

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Speaker 1: go to and ten six and six and ten four

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Speaker 1: ten three, and then at Baillory takes over after Art

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Speaker 1: Briles goes one and eleven, seven and six, eleven and three, um,

640
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: which does give him an overall record of forty seven

641
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: and forty three, but not all near five hundred records

642
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: are created equally, like, especially given the context of taking

643
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: over a bad Nebraska program. I will take this resume

644
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: over like a crystal Ball who's just middling everywhere he

645
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: goes every single year. Um. Con Man, crystal Ball. Uh So,

646
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Matt rule Nebraska. I've been telling you for weeks. Ho

647
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: ho Husker. I think Christmas comes early for Nebraska fans.

648
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what they wanted. I think it's

649
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: a great higher Um. On the other hand, it seems

650
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: like Lane Kiffin is staying in Oxford. Now do we

651
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: have into paper yet, brom Wayne Kiffin has told reporters

652
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: he is, he is signing, he's staying on the miss

653
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: and he has signed the extension. The terms have been weaked,

654
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: But I do not believe we have pinned to paper.

655
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: What are the terms eight years seventy two? Oh, yes,

656
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: which I believe is the probably a similar deal that

657
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: Matt Rule is gonna get it in Nebraska, because it's

658
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: reported he also has eight years. What did you say?

659
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Whenever you have the chance to give a coach more

660
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: years than seasons than winning seasons they have, you got

661
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: to do it that And that is again the entire

662
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: crux of my anti Matt Rule argument. Hey, Mabrule has

663
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: three winning seasons. But again, Brom, it's the context he took.

664
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm not, no, I understand that. But then again, you

665
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: see my point. I don't know point you're feeling. No, No,

666
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: I do see your point. I do see your point,

667
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: And maybe you're right right, maybe maybe like can he

668
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: capture that magic a third time in a row? Um?

669
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Only time will tell. Right now, the list of great

670
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: college coach is who have lots of success at three

671
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: places of a short list. Uh, that's true. But but

672
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: we never really And I guess that's the problem with

673
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: the Rule. That makes more exciting and more worrisome because

674
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: we never really got to see his story play out, right,

675
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: So we don't know what really would have happened to Baylor.

676
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Would there have been a David Rando type scene shot back, UM,

677
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: here's a good question. Yeah, would you rather have Matt

678
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: Rule or David Randa? I think I would rather have

679
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: David Randa. That I think that is like the entire

680
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: philosophy disagreement we're having here with if you do have

681
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: a coach that it hasn't have a giant record of success,

682
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I would rather have a scheme guy over a CEO guy.

683
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I'm watching the CEO guy now.

684
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: I know Kelly, Brian Kelly years of success. That is yes,

685
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: but That's what I'm saying. But but, but but at

686
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: some point that CEO guy is young and he is

687
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: forming that process, and I appears then that rule has

688
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: a very effective college process. But well we we you know,

689
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: time will tell, we will see. Okay, back to Lane, Keivin,

690
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Lane Staine and Oxford. Uh, I think the only thing

691
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: that fascinates me about this UM, I like in a

692
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: lot of ways. At the beginning of this conversation, I

693
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: thought that Lane going and starting over in Auburn did

694
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: not make a lot of sense, right, Why would you

695
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: go die between Kirby and Nick? Why would you accept

696
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: all the weird expectation and pressure and odd culture of

697
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: Auburn when at all ms your beloved. I mean certainly

698
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: watching the Egg Bowl a couple of nights ago from

699
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: when Lane Kiffin's son is on the shoulders of the

700
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: players blowing the fire extinguisher on the sideline, and then

701
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: it's like him and two of his boys like running

702
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: around on the sideline. That ain't gonna fly at Auburn.

703
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: You gotta be a little more buttoned up, a little

704
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: more a gust, a little more like we take this seriously. Um,

705
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: So like there's a lot that I just feel like

706
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Lane had so much going for him at all, miss

707
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: maybe not even record wise, right, because that's what we

708
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: can get into. This has been fascinating now. But um

709
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: just in terms of he had a blank check, he

710
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: just just a just a built in yes to whatever

711
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: he needs. I need more in ail money. I want

712
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: to be paid more money. Um, we need more. We

713
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: need facilities here, and he commitment here, and yet maybe

714
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: they don't have the resources of an Auburn. But he's

715
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: also not getting any pushback. And to these college football

716
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: head coaches who are absolute control freaks right now, the

717
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: great ones I think can delegate, but the majority of

718
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: them are used to being lords of their little fiefdom

719
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: where it's kind of insane, like the college coach gets

720
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: good enough not even the a d can check him,

721
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: like he is the literal lord, like in a Game

722
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: of Thrones medieval type of sense, like his word is law.

723
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: And so when all of a sudden everything you say

724
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: goes likely and Kiven has an Oxford right now, then um,

725
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: I think it's very tempting. There's also going to be

726
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: said for staying content. There's also something to be said

727
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: for he's had big jobs before, and if he wanted

728
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: to leave for another big job, he probably could. But

729
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: why run the risk of whatever Auburn is right now?

730
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's I guess I understand a lot of

731
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: reason why I stayed now. The reason why I say

732
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: it surprised me is because I had gotten talked over

733
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: that I was wrong about um and I know we'll

734
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: right it. Wrong is probably a weird way to frame this,

735
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: but I just kind of come around to the idea that, Okay, no,

736
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: maybe Auburn is the clearly better job, clearly has better resources,

737
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: They definitely have more of a winning history, obviously right,

738
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: that goes without saying and that, yeah, if anybody's gonna

739
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: make that move, like maybe Lane kid would make it.

740
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: And it was funny. On my show last week we

741
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: interviewed like Chris Lowe, uh, the Richard Cross, the old

742
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Miss Sideline reporter Brian Hey, dadam miss to be State

743
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: beat right, like everybody to a man said they expected

744
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Lane to be gone to Auburn. And so why that

745
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: really interests me? Is it does beg the question how

746
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: much did the John Sokoloff tweet play a role in

747
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: all of this? How? Um, if any you know? I

748
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: guess we don't really know. But Lane certainly seems like

749
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: someone who got made very angry by that report, how

750
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: it affected his team. They go out there and then

751
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: lose that game and he doubles down basically calling out

752
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: the reporter for bad information. Well, once he doubled down

753
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: to that post game, you couldn't really leave after that.

754
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: So maybe he was already committed. But then if you

755
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: already were, why not come out and just unequivally shut

756
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: things down? Maybe sex and telling me he can't. I

757
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: don't know entirely, and and honestly, at the end of

758
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: the day. It's probably a mixture of everything, right, Sokoloff

759
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: probably pushed him towards a decision that he was maybe

760
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: already leaning to after flirting with Auburn. And I wonder, Brom,

761
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: how do you think Auburn feels about this? Now they're

762
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna get Hugh Freeze, who's definitely one more big games.

763
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: We haven't seen do it in a while. But I

764
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: guess why I'm asking Auburn feels about this because as

765
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: you look up and we said this going into the

766
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Egg Bowl, but Olmos finished behind Missipi State, like they

767
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: were top ten fifteen the entire season, and yet they've

768
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: finished eight and four, four and four in the SEC

769
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: behind Missipy State. Oh and Olmoss got to play Vanderbilt,

770
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: MRS State had to play Georgia. So like miss you say,

771
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: it was arguably the better team in Mississippi. Like from

772
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: do you think that Auburn fans still one in Lane

773
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: after that finish? I think there's one thing we've learned

774
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: about Auburn fans. They have two very separate and equally

775
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: loud groups of boosters. And my guess is one set

776
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: of boosters really wants Lane Kiffen and the other set

777
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: boosters really wants Hugh Freeze, and I believe that that

778
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: those two groups are at war with each other, and

779
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: now Hugh Freezes the consolation prize after they couldn't get

780
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Wayne Kiffin. Yeah, I think that's probably correct. I just

781
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: do think it's interesting how Mississippi State got no love

782
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: all year long, and and and and really it had

783
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: nothing to do with us objective really judging these teams,

784
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: because they did the exact same thing against all the

785
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: other SEC teams on their schedule. So it's like we

786
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: were never objectively judging the teams. We were judging the

787
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: flow of the season because Old Miss had a very

788
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: nice schedule that lined up easily for seven and oh,

789
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: whereas miss they got challenged very early on. We kind

790
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: of wrote off one and and and and you know,

791
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: crown the other. And then again you look up and

792
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: it's Mike Leach and the Bulldogs who finished during the scust.

793
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: So lanees got work to do it all. Miss really

794
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: needs a bowl game to push this to nine and four.

795
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I do believe Lane Kiffin will be the number one

796
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: target for any other big job that opened, whether that

797
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: is Oklahoma, Texas or Alabama. In the next few years.

798
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: I think Lane giving will. I think Ryank Givvon will

799
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: remain to be the hottest name for a while. I

800
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: believe unless um, they go eight and for again next year, right,

801
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: I think there's a group of people who will always

802
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: like the idea of Wayne Kiffin. Wayne Diffen has been

803
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of places. He's had successful a lot of places,

804
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: but he's also rubbed the people the wrong way at

805
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 1: a lot of places. So I think I think people

806
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: expect oldness to go eating for I don't think people

807
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: look at old mrs eight and four years of failure. Okay,

808
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: I I think that's fair, But I wonder if that

809
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: changes in the context of winning ten games in the

810
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: regular season last year. And I'm not saying I think. Look, actually,

811
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: I've seen for many all Miss fans there a static

812
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: to retain Lane and then they're like, yeah, eight and four.

813
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: Eight and four is cool with us. But if you are,

814
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: we'll see maybe you're right, maybe right, Maybe eight and

815
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: four is good enough to keep. It's good enough to

816
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: keep people at him happy with the people at Old

817
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Miss who wanted to be there, and it's good enough

818
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: to keep them in the mix for the top coaching

819
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: candidate at the true blue blood blue blood jobs. Yeah,

820
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Uh, I mean, it's it's it's

821
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: it's a fair point. It's a fair point. We will

822
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: we will see again, though, I feel like you really

823
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: want that Bowl game to push to nine and four

824
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: over eight and five. Like nine and four still sounds like,

825
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: oh that's a pretty damn good year. Eight and five

826
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: fields very middling, tastes a little bland, like you need

827
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: some season and on that thing. Um. I see. Cody

828
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Brunet's kind of right about this though. The Old Miss

829
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: people are piste off though, because the last week, I mean, yeah,

830
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: that is kind of yeah. I mean again, could he

831
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: have handled it better? It kind of continue to play

832
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: games throughout, um, and then you lose there whatever they

833
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: needed to win the egg Bowl, right, I mean, the

834
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Old Miss people are pissed because you lost the egg Bowl.

835
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: And those fan bases are absolutely insane about the egg Bowl.

836
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful, wonderful little Thursday night treat on Thanksgiving.

837
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: All Right, that'll do it for the afternoon session of Snaps.

838
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: We got Aaron Murray coming up late night tonight. Brama

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00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: is that wreckt tv D t B D on that. UM.

840
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, all the big action happened right here right.

841
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: We'll see what happened to the USC tonight. Notre Dame.

842
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: UM obviously your boy. We'll be out here locally watching

843
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,040
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