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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a special edition of Amy and TJ,

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Speaker 1: where we stayed up with probably a lot of you

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Speaker 1: all listening to watch the vice presidential debate this evening,

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Speaker 1: and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised. TJ.

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Speaker 1: It was civil. It was substantive. I can't ever say

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Speaker 1: that word very well, but they really went into the issues,

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Speaker 1: and they actually were respectful of one another, and they

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Speaker 1: reserved whatever negativity they had towards the top of the ticket,

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Speaker 1: towards their running mates and not towards one another. And

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Speaker 1: I was shocked, but in a good way.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's unfortunately where we are if we are

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Speaker 2: shocked that two people political opponents can be civil and

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Speaker 2: decent to each other, which if you all weren't able

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Speaker 2: to stay up and watch the entire thing, then that

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Speaker 2: is thing number one. I suppose, just to see them

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Speaker 2: come out and smile and be pleasant and shake hands

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Speaker 2: at the top, even through the moderators off for a second,

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Speaker 2: that everybody was on stage in a position when it started.

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Speaker 2: They did kind of some introductions, and the two guys,

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Speaker 2: not being prompted on their own, they went over and

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Speaker 2: shook hands, and it threw the moderators off, they had

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Speaker 2: to kind of pause, and even seemed like the director

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Speaker 2: to happen. Tonally throughout you heard them go back and

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Speaker 2: forth a time and say, I agree with you on that.

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Speaker 2: I think we're on the same page. I think you're decent.

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Speaker 2: I think you also don't want that to happen. It

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Speaker 2: was incredible to hear two politicians at this stage do that,

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Speaker 2: and I wish we saw more of that day and

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Speaker 2: day out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I even heard one of the media commentators afterwards

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Speaker 1: say I wish these two could be running for president.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of Americans who watched that,

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Speaker 1: who listened to it may have thought the same thing,

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Speaker 1: because we have not seen this type of political debate

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Speaker 1: where you're actually just debating the issues and not lobbing

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Speaker 1: attacks at one another's I can't remember the last time

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Speaker 1: I've seen something so civil and something so informative.

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Speaker 3: Although the attacks were on policy, and I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we argue exactly over.

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Speaker 2: Points in what you believe and I believe, and they

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Speaker 2: reserve those attacks for the folks at the top of

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Speaker 2: the ticket. But what we're used to seeing. Are these

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Speaker 2: are personal attacks? I don't remember, necessarily, as I sit

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Speaker 2: here and remind me, maybe there was no. I don't

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Speaker 2: remember a single personal attack. It was even a moment

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Speaker 2: where Jadie Vans say, hey, I didn't know your son

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Speaker 2: had that experience. When Waltz was talking about his son

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Speaker 2: witness of shooting, he sounded sympathetic, He sounded like he had.

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Speaker 3: A real human moment with another human being.

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Speaker 2: We even saw that moment criticized later by some of

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Speaker 2: the commentators in the post debate coverage saying, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's good at putting on and pretending like he's your

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Speaker 2: friend and he's nice, and like even that moment.

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Speaker 1: Questioning his authenticity because it's almost too hard to believe. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see because historically speaking, or at

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Speaker 1: least in the past several I believe the data is

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Speaker 1: for the past six presidential elections, watching a vice presidential

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Speaker 1: debate hasn't really moved the needle at all. They cite

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Speaker 1: back to you have to go back to two thousand,

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Speaker 1: where there was a one point two percent change with

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Speaker 1: Dick Cheney sparring against Joseph Lieberman. That was George Bush

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Speaker 1: versus al Gore, but still all the other vice presidential debates,

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Speaker 1: there is no noticeable change. But I would say in

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Speaker 1: this particular case, it's interesting and it will be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see if the polls shift it all because of

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Speaker 1: course we're neck and neck right now, too close to

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Speaker 1: call between right now former President Trump and Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: Vice President Kamala Harris. But not many people know JD. Vance,

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Speaker 1: Not many people know Tim Wall. So this was really

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Speaker 1: an introduction for a lot of voters to meet these

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Speaker 1: two men and see where they fall in policy.

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Speaker 3: I think vans.

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Speaker 2: I think both of them came as advertised in a

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Speaker 2: lot of ways, the down home the folks see the

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Speaker 2: football coach, the elementary school teacher of in Waltz.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean we got an Ivy.

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Speaker 2: And I think Vance and everybody it is not us

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Speaker 2: saying this. Vance was sharp. It was not a question

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Speaker 2: about it. He was well prepared. He was sharp. You

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Speaker 2: way they do. He is a sharp debater. He knows

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Speaker 2: his policy and he knows how to navigate on this

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Speaker 2: type of stage. Waltz, as many has said, didn't have

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Speaker 2: enough reps roads leading into the night, and it showed

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Speaker 2: he hadn't done enough national interviews and the statement we

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Speaker 3: Quite did.

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Speaker 2: He gained his footing later, but he did start off

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Speaker 2: on a nervous note.

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Speaker 1: He definitely started off on a nervous note. And as

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Speaker 1: you point out, jd Vance came out just polished, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, it's interesting not only watching the debate and

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Speaker 1: watching different networks cover the debate. One of the only

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Speaker 1: arguments or negative common that you could even hear some

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Speaker 1: journalists who tend to be left leaning. The only argument

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Speaker 1: they made against Jadevance was that he was quote unquote

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Speaker 1: too polished. I don't know that that's a thing, but

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Speaker 1: that's as bad of a lob as they could throw

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Speaker 1: against him. Now we also know President Trump, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you weren't paying attention, was involved in social media

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Speaker 1: throughout much of in fact, throughout the entire debate, and

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Speaker 1: he was debating sometimes furiously, sometimes two times in one minute,

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Speaker 1: and he was not tonally in line with his vice

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate. He threw the lobs out and he went

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Speaker 1: hard against Tim Waltz. He was calling him tampon Tim

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Speaker 1: pretty much throughout the entire social media tirade that he

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Speaker 1: calling Tim Waltz, a nickname that a lot of right

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Speaker 1: wing critics have been using for the past several months,

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Speaker 1: basically attacking him on his administration's policy at providing free

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Speaker 1: menstrual products in all school bathrooms. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: that's going to sit with any undecided voters, certainly with

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Speaker 1: any undecided female voters. But he went with that and

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Speaker 3: But these were adults.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people argue that that Kamala Harris gave

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Speaker 2: people of an option a third option so they could

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Speaker 2: get away from the two options they didn't want. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people didn't want Trump, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: didn't want Biden. And it seemed like we had a

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Speaker 2: capable adult in the room. We saw on stage tonight,

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Speaker 2: two capable dudes. They seem like adults in the room. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is not and were robes And I are not

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Speaker 2: here to argue policy or break down and do all

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Speaker 2: the fact checking. You have plenty of pundits in everybody

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Speaker 2: on TV that'll do that, but as viewers, as journalists,

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Speaker 2: as observers, and as folks who've covered a lot of

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Speaker 2: this stuff, this was one of the more substantive debates

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Speaker 2: you will see. They got into some good policy discussions,

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Speaker 2: certainly on healthcare, about the Middle East, what we're seeing

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Speaker 2: good debate, and gun control question came up. That was

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Speaker 2: a good debate about family and abortion. You can disagree

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Speaker 2: with what some of them saying and say this guy

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with what we saw.

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Speaker 1: Tonight exactly and not in addition to some of the

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Speaker 1: topics that they discussed things that really matter to American voters.

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Speaker 1: They talked about immigration, border patrol, they talked about affordable housing,

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Speaker 1: affordable prescription drugs, tax credits. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: Hurricane Helene and the unbelievable devastation, deadly devastation in the southeast.

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Speaker 1: But the second question I was a little surprised in

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Speaker 1: the debate was on climate change, and it actually got

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Speaker 1: other other topics or subjects that they covered. But they

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, what did you think about that?

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Speaker 3: In it?

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Speaker 2: I guess that's the I don't know if an opinion

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Speaker 2: on whether or not that should be why not? It's

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Speaker 2: a very important topic to a lot of people. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I guess why not? I see a lot of people

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Speaker 1: That it was at high up yep and jd Vance.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know that we've heard former President Trump

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Speaker 1: talk about climate change as being a hoax. Jd Vance

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Speaker 1: did not take that line. So we did see some

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Speaker 1: moments where Jadie Vance and Donald Trump don't necessarily see

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Speaker 1: Both men did a very good job explaining their stances

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Speaker 2: There were a few moments that will stand out. You're

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Speaker 2: viewed as an overwhelming victory, if you will, for JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans had it not been for this. It's like he

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Speaker 2: had waltz on the ropes all night and then all

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Speaker 2: It starts throwing haymakers. But he asked a direct question

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Speaker 2: to JD. Vance if you believe Donald Trump lost the election,

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Speaker 2: and he wouldn't give him a straight answer. I was

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Speaker 2: very surprised he wasn't better prepared to give something because

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Speaker 2: that sounds that's a direct something we're four years now

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Speaker 2: removed from that. Did he lose the election? And your

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Speaker 2: gave an answer like a kid would give on a playground,

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Speaker 1: He said, well, you're not talking about censorship. So he

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Speaker 1: actually if he did go off and decided to say

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Speaker 1: it stood out. It was stark, and it was disappointing, frankly,

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Speaker 1: because whatever his opinion is, I think all of us

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Speaker 1: deserve to know what it was. And he refused to

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Speaker 1: give it. And that was definitely a problem and a

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Speaker 1: low moment and one of the very rare and perhaps

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Speaker 1: one of the only bad moments for JdE Bans was

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Speaker 1: when he chose not to answer that question, and that

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Speaker 1: was certainly deliberate.

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Speaker 2: The other substance of thing that people were scratching their

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Speaker 2: President Trump was the one and who in fact saved Obamacare.

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of people say that's absurd.

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Speaker 2: He was trying to make a connection and a point

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Speaker 2: can't gut it. He tried to gut the thing and

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Speaker 2: didn't get it done. So now he tried to make

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Speaker 2: some improvements to it or at least make it soluble.

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Speaker 1: He promised he ran on abolishing it, and then now

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Speaker 1: Jade Vance wants to give him credit for saving it.

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Speaker 2: going into it. The moderators are at a disadvantage because

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Speaker 2: it by doing what they did. I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a good idea. Fine, we're not going to referee it,

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Speaker 2: We're just going to give you the questions and step

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Speaker 2: out of the way, and almost immediately they didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: It was It was also interesting because I was so

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Speaker 1: I wish I had, but honestly, I was so into

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Speaker 1: what they were saying. That's the only problem with the

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Speaker 2: It was an interesting it was an engaging and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a nasty debate. I appreciated it, and we're not

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Speaker 2: going to get another one for four years now because

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Speaker 2: this is essentially the only last debate of the campaign season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate, and.

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Speaker 3: Most we got two presidential debates. Oh you're right, Oh wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: The other one is probably best forgotten for most, but no,

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Speaker 1: it was one that will go down in the history

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Speaker 1: books forever. So I stand corrected, TJ. You're right. We

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Speaker 1: we now have how many days thirty something days to

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Speaker 1: of the United States. I hope that tonight's debate, if

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Speaker 1: anyone is undecided or is on the fence, that maybe

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Speaker 1: this gave them the information they needed to make the

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Speaker 2: And folks, this was said at the end of debate,

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Speaker 2: at close to the end of the bay. We've got

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Speaker 2: to shake hands at the end, and he'll have my prayers,

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Speaker 2: best wishes, and my help whenever he needs it. That

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna tell you who said it, because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They said this on stage tonight, So

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if the Democrat said or the Republican

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Speaker 2: said it. That that was the tone that was on

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Speaker 2: stage tonight that I appreciate it the folk. If you

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Speaker 2: look at these two guys, you can't just start with okay,

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Speaker 2: they're decent dudes. I disagree with his policy. I strongly

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Speaker 2: disagree with his policy. I really hate that policy. That's okay,

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Speaker 2: But if we just start with that foundation that these

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Speaker 2: guys seem to start with, it's a decent man across

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Speaker 2: the stage from me, it seemed like they at least

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, maybe it's something to it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that both of these men haven't been in

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Speaker 1: the national spotlight for very long. They've done they've been

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Speaker 1: local leaders and local politicians. But these two are fairly

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to they're newcomers to the national

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Speaker 1: political stage in a lot of ways. Most people don't

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Speaker 1: know them, and it gives me a little bit of

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Speaker 1: hope that maybe the future isn't what the recent past

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Speaker 1: feel like if I saw these two men, I feel

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Speaker 1: like they could actually potentially get a bill passed together,

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Speaker 1: you know, something that we don't usually see in Congress.

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Speaker 1: So I just felt a little hopeful at the end

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Speaker 1: of this debate, and I hope many of you did too.

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Speaker 1: I feel better today than I did yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You didn't say that at the end of the last

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Speaker 2: two Well what a night, folks. So we always appreciate

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Speaker 2: you spending a little time with us here on Amy

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Speaker 2: and TJ. But for now, TJ Holme sitting across from

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Speaker 2: Amy Robot. What time is it here? Almost midnight?

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Speaker 3: It's almost midnight as we record this thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get a couple hours of sleep and

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Speaker 1: we'll see y'all. If you want to join us on

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Speaker 1: the morning run, we'll be up for that as well

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Speaker 1: tomorrow

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Speaker 4: With the show pots and Chan