WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Mehdi Hasan On Mamdani's Mayoral Win, Combatting Hate, Government Shutdown + More

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<v Speaker 1>Every day a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The Breakfast Club, y'all done morning. Everybody is DJ Envy

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<v Speaker 2>Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a special guest in the building. Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>here to talk about a lot, especially post election coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen. Meddi Hassan, welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to be back.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you feel? First of all, I know y'all

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<v Speaker 5>was partying all last partying.

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a live stream, so it was very

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<v Speaker 3>noisy in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 4>I can imagine there was some noise made at this

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<v Speaker 4>historic election night event and the voice took a head.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was very historic with there all night. We

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<v Speaker 3>were alive all night.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to ask you a question. First of all,

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<v Speaker 5>have you seen this the front page and then your

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<v Speaker 5>post this morning?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, it says on your marks, get set soo socialist

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<v Speaker 5>Mundania wins race for mayor the red Apple.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you think of that?

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<v Speaker 4>What I think is it didn't work during the election campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe they're still trying this ship.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the New York Post Rupert murder. They tried.

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<v Speaker 4>They threw every they threw the kitchen scene at this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and it didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>He won a majority of the vote.

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<v Speaker 4>In the last days they were like, if only Slee

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<v Speaker 4>wa pulls out. The whole campaign was sleeve. What pull

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<v Speaker 4>out doesn't matter if Slee would pulled out, he won

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<v Speaker 4>more than fifty percent of the vote, He won a

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<v Speaker 4>majority in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>He won more than a million votes. It's been I

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<v Speaker 3>think something.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this said sixty years since a New York meracle

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<v Speaker 4>won over a million votes. So none of this stuff worked.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll keep going after in the billionaires. And I pointed

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<v Speaker 4>out last night, Dora Mum, Danny did not just be

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Cuomo and Curtis.

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<v Speaker 3>Sleewer do ramon.

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<v Speaker 4>Danny beat Bill Ackman and Michael Bloomberg and Reid Hastings

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<v Speaker 4>and James Murdock and the Walmart woman and the home

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<v Speaker 4>Depot guy and door Dash and Airbnb and all the

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<v Speaker 4>billionaires and corporations who threw all that cash at him.

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<v Speaker 3>You beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about Bill Lackman reaching out last night?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think of it all?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very short tweet, Bill Ackman writes, these

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<v Speaker 4>Warren piece toll story tweets, very short tweet. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I tweeted last night thoughts some prayers to b Lackman

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<v Speaker 4>and Elon Musk. This guy spent his entire campaign attacking

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<v Speaker 4>He suggested that Zora Mundani is some crazy jahadis terrorist,

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<v Speaker 4>radical and.

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<v Speaker 2>For people that don't know who he is, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>he's a hedge fund manager. He's worth about ten billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>I envy the people who don't know who he is.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I didn't know who he was. He spends

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of money and time online and what's It's

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<v Speaker 4>why people hate politics in this country, right, It's so cynical.

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<v Speaker 3>He spent the entire campaign saying that guy is.

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<v Speaker 4>A terrorist, he hates Jews like the most extreme incendiary rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he wins. He's like, hey man, I'll work

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<v Speaker 3>with you. You need me, I'm here for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, I thought you just told us the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the world was gonna happen if this guy won, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>make your mind up, but I do have a question.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of people were saying that Mamdanney promised

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<v Speaker 2>a lot and the unit elevator and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things he said free and.

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<v Speaker 1>Rent free, eliminating fans universe building.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots, and they are going to be on raising taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna taxes when the top earners and corporations.

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<v Speaker 2>Building two hundred thousand houses. So he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on a timer. So what do you say to those people?

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<v Speaker 2>Could he get Can he get all those things done?

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<v Speaker 2>With everybody against him in politics?

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<v Speaker 4>I should say, well, what's interesting is that everybody is

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<v Speaker 4>not against them. The public are with him. Right, he's

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<v Speaker 4>got a massive mandate. Donald Trump is a man. Let

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<v Speaker 4>me just put context. Donald Trump is a man who's

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<v Speaker 4>never won more than fifty percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty sixteen, he lost the popular vote, still beat Hillary.

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<v Speaker 4>In twenty twenty he lost popular vote and everything else

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<v Speaker 4>to Biden. In twenty twenty four, last year, he got

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<v Speaker 4>fourty nine points something percent of the vote. He never

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<v Speaker 4>hit fifty percent. Have you listened to how Republicans talk

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<v Speaker 4>like they owned the place. We have a mandate. Millions

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<v Speaker 4>of people voted for this. The people are with Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to have democratic leaders who are willing to

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<v Speaker 4>do the same thing. I want to hear Zara mound

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<v Speaker 4>Nani in every speech, go more than a million people

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<v Speaker 4>vote for me, like that should be his line in

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<v Speaker 4>every interview, at the start and end of every time

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<v Speaker 4>he talks, because that is his mandate. Those are the

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<v Speaker 4>people who are with him. And the fact that you

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<v Speaker 4>were able to just reel off his policies.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he said it so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and because it works right Like Hillary Clinton ran

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<v Speaker 4>with like a seven hundred page policy platform, no one

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<v Speaker 4>knew what it was. Donald Trump said, band Muslims build

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<v Speaker 4>a wall. People remember that stuff. So it was a

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<v Speaker 4>political genius to communicate with those kind of simple popular appeals.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he gonna pull it all off? We will see.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we know that he doesn't have the power

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<v Speaker 4>to do everything on his own. Luckily, the governor is

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<v Speaker 4>now an ally Kathy. Even though Schumer and others wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>back him, he did get the backing of the governor.

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<v Speaker 4>I interviewed Tiss James last night at the Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got the backing of some big figures in the state. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>will that be enough?

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<v Speaker 3>We will see.

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<v Speaker 4>We will see whether the smile and the charm and

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<v Speaker 4>the charisma and the people power will get Albany to

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<v Speaker 4>do some of the stuff because he can't do it

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<v Speaker 4>on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, well, Governor Hog already says she's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to read the taxes.

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<v Speaker 4>She says she's not gonna raise taxes, but she also

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<v Speaker 4>said she supports his plan for universal childcare. So at

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<v Speaker 4>some point, the robber's gonna hit the road. How do

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<v Speaker 4>you pay for it? It can only be through raising

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<v Speaker 4>taxes on rich folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Can it be free bus service in New York City?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there could be anything you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, realistically, could that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I live in a country whereol every day.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I live in a country where the guy

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<v Speaker 4>from Home alone too is president threatening to annex Greenland.

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<v Speaker 4>And you tell me if free buses are realistic. I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of things are realistic if you put

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<v Speaker 4>your I mean Socrats are always trying to lower the ambition,

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<v Speaker 4>and Republicans are like, we'll do whatever the hell we want,

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<v Speaker 4>will conquer countries, will bum things, We'll do all sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of insane things.

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<v Speaker 3>And Democrats are.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, can we do this little bit for poor

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<v Speaker 4>people or marginalized people or people who need help? And

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<v Speaker 4>I just think, come on, New York, biggest city in

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<v Speaker 4>the country, richest city in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't do this stuff. Yes, you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how to do. I really do.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, if they block him, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a man who will run again on this platform.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean FDR ran in the nineteen thirties on the

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<v Speaker 4>basis that, look, they hate me, the rich people, and

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<v Speaker 4>I embrace their hatred. And I can very much see

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<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't get things through, and it's clear it's

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<v Speaker 4>because of the opponents, he'll run on that again in

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<v Speaker 4>a few years time.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask about that.

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<v Speaker 5>How does he navigate the government overreach that is absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>gonna happen to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good question. I asked Tis Shamee the same

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<v Speaker 3>question yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, all Democratic attorneys generals have been dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>this issue in California, in Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>We know Donald Trump is now going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Use his excuse to send in the troops, absolutely to

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<v Speaker 4>cut funding. I mean, it's insane that he posted on

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<v Speaker 4>his social side of the weekend, you know if you

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<v Speaker 4>vote for Doromandi, if Zaramond was, I will cut funding

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<v Speaker 4>like that is the classic mono.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy, just extortion.

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<v Speaker 4>The country's biggest richest city the present United States says,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to send you any money if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't vote for the guy I want. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>had the guy you wanted with Andrew Cuomo. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just think that's Look. I don't know if there's any

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<v Speaker 4>solution to this stuff. I think it's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>It can't be Mundaney on his own right. The whole

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<v Speaker 4>point about Donald Trump is you can't beat him on

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<v Speaker 4>his own. You can't beat what he does is he

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<v Speaker 4>goes after institutions and people one by one, like the

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<v Speaker 4>bully in the playground, and takes them out one by one.

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<v Speaker 4>The only way you beat Donald Trump is with solidarity,

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<v Speaker 4>with people sticking together, not people throwing each other under

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<v Speaker 4>the bus, big universities, big tech companies, all trying to

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<v Speaker 4>curry favor. I actually thought the best part of Zora Undaney'

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<v Speaker 4>speech last night was when he went after Trump and

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<v Speaker 4>made it very clear. He said the way you respond

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<v Speaker 4>to oligarchy and authoritarianism is not with the appeasement they crave,

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<v Speaker 4>but with the strength they fear. And he said, you

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the conditions that create despots like Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't hear that enough of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 4>All you hear from Democrats is we've got to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of Trump and We're back to business as usual.

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<v Speaker 3>What zoram I'm done?

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<v Speaker 4>He is saying, and Bernie and others have said, is

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<v Speaker 4>you can't just get rid of Trump. You got to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the next Trump. And that means getting

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<v Speaker 4>rid of the conditions that created Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you vote out an authoritarian regime?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I see everybody celebrating, and I'm like, relax, the

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<v Speaker 5>guy is still in power. And I don't care who

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<v Speaker 5>he has a bit of him. Yes, I don't care

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<v Speaker 5>how popular he is. He's got a lot of power

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<v Speaker 5>and he can use that power to, you know, get

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<v Speaker 5>rid of a lot of the checks and balances that

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<v Speaker 5>you know still exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you vote that out in twenty twenty six?

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<v Speaker 4>That is twenty twenty eight. I mean, that's the sixty

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<v Speaker 4>four thousand dollars question. It's something I've been worried about

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<v Speaker 4>since twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, when I said he's not

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<v Speaker 4>going to leave after twenty twenty and he tried to

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<v Speaker 4>stay on. Look, the guy is selling merch for twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>He's visiting world leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>He takes them to a closet in the White House

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<v Speaker 4>and he shows them twenty twenty eight merch Schumer and

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<v Speaker 4>Jeffery comes to the over offuse, he chucks the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight merchant them. He said the other day, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not going to run his vice president

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<v Speaker 4>and do that again. But he never fully rules it

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<v Speaker 4>out because of course he wants to stay in office.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that is the question, are we going

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<v Speaker 4>to have free and fair elections in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>But the way to ensure that we do have twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty eight free elections, or at least try and ensure

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<v Speaker 4>is is to make sure they don't control every branch

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<v Speaker 4>of government. And what last night's blue wave, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a blue wave, what that shows us is actually

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats are a very good path in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>winning back the.

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<v Speaker 3>House next year.

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<v Speaker 4>If they don't win back the House next year, then

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't think we see the back of

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<v Speaker 4>this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think there's nothing to stop him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>How should democratical guy last night?

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<v Speaker 5>And what I mean by that is, yeah, Jersey, you

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<v Speaker 5>expect Jersey to go blue. Mayor raised in New York City,

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<v Speaker 5>you expect that to go blue. Prim fifty in California,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the blue state, right, Virginia, you kind of expect

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<v Speaker 5>that the margins margins, Okay, so how should they should

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<v Speaker 5>should there be something they look at and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a this is a step in the right

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<v Speaker 5>direction for us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on hundred percent of step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially you look at the Virginia House for example, which

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<v Speaker 4>is seen as a bell whether they won back a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of seats too proof majority there which so so

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<v Speaker 4>Trump took a beating in all these places, especially in

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia where you know, he fired a bunch of federal workers, doge.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that had a huge impact.

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<v Speaker 4>But look, it's across the board. It's in special elections.

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<v Speaker 4>In Georgia, it's the Prop fifty, a two to one vote.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Gavin Newson will be very pleased with that result.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a statewide race in Georgia for which they

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<v Speaker 4>won as well. You go through the list. In Maine,

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<v Speaker 4>they rejected an attempt to limit early voting and all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of other voting methods. So it's really really interesting

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<v Speaker 4>that across the board they did well. The margins were big,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, mikey Ryl, it was looking very close in

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<v Speaker 4>New Jersey just last week she actually was a blowout, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I do think the margins are big. It does

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<v Speaker 4>bode well for them going into next year. My bigger

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<v Speaker 4>worry is not did they win the House. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>they're win the House, but then what do.

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<v Speaker 3>They do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Part?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I have no confidence in Heckem Jeffreys, I have

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<v Speaker 4>no confidence in Chuck Schumer. I mean Chuck Schumer was

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<v Speaker 4>asked yesterday who did you vote for in your city?

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<v Speaker 3>And he could not say who he voted for?

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<v Speaker 4>Like disgraceful, doesn't come close enough to you are the

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<v Speaker 4>leader of the Democrats in the Senate and you can't

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<v Speaker 4>say that you voted for the Democratic candidate in New York.

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<v Speaker 4>And by the way, you said new York goes you

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<v Speaker 4>know he's a Democratic city.

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<v Speaker 3>But this guy was up against two candidates.

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<v Speaker 4>He was up against the Republican and the famous Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>with name recognition who was governor of the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, and I like Curtis as a person, but.

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<v Speaker 4>They agreed, agreed he got lucky. You need lucky in

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<v Speaker 4>public hill. Donald Trump got lucky in twenty sixteen. You

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<v Speaker 4>could argue with Hillary Clinton. But the point is they

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<v Speaker 4>still outspent him. They still threw the kitchen, sinking him.

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<v Speaker 4>He still had all the billionaire support, he still had

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<v Speaker 4>the Croomo name.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go back nine months, we say terrible calendidate.

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<v Speaker 4>But he had the inevitability or it was like it's

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Cromo's race to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>He was leading in the primaries.

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<v Speaker 4>This was the guy who was supposed to just naturally

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<v Speaker 4>get it because of his name and experience and money.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't look got disgraced twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask what does that mean for Democrats because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like when the Democrats had somebody they split

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<v Speaker 2>like Voltron RIGHTY had Eric Adam, now he's independent. You

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<v Speaker 2>have Pomo now he's independent. But they're Democrats. But they

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<v Speaker 2>all did this to go at Mombani. So what does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean for Democrats? Because Republicans I don't think would

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<v Speaker 2>ever do that, even if they didn't like the candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>they would still staying behind me.

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<v Speaker 3>I Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a reminder that they keep nominating crappy Democrats. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that Eric Adams was the mayor, the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that Andrew Cromo was the governor, tells you volumes about

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<v Speaker 4>newor Democratic Party and how awful it was. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think Mum niney is a breath of fresh air. I

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<v Speaker 4>was standing in that hall at Brooklyn Paramount last night

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<v Speaker 4>watching him speak, seeing the energy, the crowd, people crying,

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<v Speaker 4>thinking to myself, this is the guy they chose to reject.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the guy Chuck Schuber couldn't even say he

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<v Speaker 4>voted for. This is the guy that, as you call him,

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<v Speaker 4>Apac Shakur couldn't turn up and actually until like the

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<v Speaker 4>friday before the race, endorsed him.

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<v Speaker 3>What is wrong with these people? Do they not want

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<v Speaker 3>to win?

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<v Speaker 4>He won young men eighteen to twenty nine according to

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<v Speaker 4>the NBC exit poll last night, by forty points. To

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<v Speaker 4>put that in context, Cheryl and Spamberger won young men

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<v Speaker 4>by ten and fourteen points.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done. He won by forty points.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm old enough to remember a year ago when Democrats like,

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<v Speaker 4>how do we get young men back? Do we need

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<v Speaker 4>to go on podcasts? How do we get young men back?

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<v Speaker 4>This guy's doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's given you a playbook and they're like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want the playbook.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want this guy. The entire party establishment rejecting

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<v Speaker 4>him to the very end. Hillary Clinton asked at the weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, I don't know how an out of view

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<v Speaker 4>like none of them would come behind this guy with

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<v Speaker 4>energy and charisma. So it's a real problem for the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic But if they decided to carry on, you know

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<v Speaker 4>the classic circus firing squad where they're all just shooting

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<v Speaker 4>each other. On Monday, Spamberger, the woman who just won

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<v Speaker 4>the governor's race in Virginia, she was attacking mum, Danny

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<v Speaker 4>is dishonest.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what are you doing. You're both on the

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<v Speaker 3>eve of major elections. Why are you attacked? Why are

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<v Speaker 3>you attacking him?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there not enough Republicans to attack? But that is

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<v Speaker 4>classic Democratic part.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw Paul last night that he won just young

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<v Speaker 5>people eighteen to twenty nine, by like seventy five percent overall.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't see the phial nomination on the male one

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<v Speaker 4>is fast.

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<v Speaker 3>He won women of course.

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<v Speaker 4>As well, but the male was fasct because all I

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<v Speaker 4>was told by pundits was like, young men don't vote,

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<v Speaker 4>they're all conservatives. Now, we were told that all young

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<v Speaker 4>men are conservatives. We didn't see that last night. We

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<v Speaker 4>were told Latinos all conservative. Now, last night Democrats won

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<v Speaker 4>back Latinos across the country. Guess what, Having a rogue

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<v Speaker 4>fascist secret police and mask picking up brown people off

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<v Speaker 4>the street doesn't help your pole ratings.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you say to the people.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, you know, because a lot of older people

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he doesn't have the experience and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>scares them. So what do you say to olds individuals?

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<v Speaker 3>And what is your thoughts? I will repeat my position

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<v Speaker 3>the guy from home alone to his president with his

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<v Speaker 3>finger on the nuclear button.

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<v Speaker 4>If Donald Trump can be president of the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>anyone can be anything in this country. He is like

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<v Speaker 4>the reverse American dream. And I think, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been in the state Assembly for a few years.

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<v Speaker 4>He made a very good point in the campaign. He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>my experience is not Andrew Cromo's experience. But why would

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<v Speaker 4>you want Andrew Cromo's experience. I don't think people care

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<v Speaker 4>about that stuff anymore. Look at Grand Platinum Maine guys,

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<v Speaker 4>an oyster fisherman, marine veteran had a Nazi tattoo on

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<v Speaker 4>his chest and he's fulling out hales.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>They want authenticity, they crave energy, they crave real people.

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<v Speaker 4>They are fed up with the automatons and the robots

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<v Speaker 4>and the corporate consultant created candidates.

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<v Speaker 3>They're done with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to go back to Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck

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<v Speaker 5>Schumer for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Iran did give me hope that there are still

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<v Speaker 1>free and fair elections? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm being honest with you, I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was worried about same things.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, right, but he gave me hope it did

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<v Speaker 5>still free and fair elections. And he also gave me

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<v Speaker 5>hope that Hakeem Jeffreys and Chuck Schumer could be successfully primary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Hakeem, I think is more difficult from what

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<v Speaker 4>I hear. I'm not the great expert on every New

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<v Speaker 4>York district.

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<v Speaker 3>But Schumer for sure. I mean, Schumer is so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 4>You see, like you look at people like my good

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<v Speaker 4>friends of Crooked Media, the pod Save guys and all

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<v Speaker 4>those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone across every ring, almost.

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<v Speaker 4>Every wing of the Democratic body is like what is

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<v Speaker 4>wrong with Chuck? Shop Like it doesn't matter with you,

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<v Speaker 4>like Mum Danny or not. Like mindly, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot build your entire personality around vote bloo no

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<v Speaker 4>matter who with a little asterisk, unless it's the Democratic

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<v Speaker 4>socialist Muslim guy from New.

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<v Speaker 3>York, then you don't have to endorse him. I think that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's embarrassed himself. AOC was at the event

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<v Speaker 4>last night. She has been obviously a strong support of

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<v Speaker 4>Mum Danny. A lot of people have divided as to

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<v Speaker 4>whether they want her to run for president in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight or do they want her to primary Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty eight. She obviously has a better chance of

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<v Speaker 4>beating Schumer in twenty eight than she hasn't being president,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just a bigger lift. You know, people like

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<v Speaker 4>Chiosa from the City council. People are talking about him

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<v Speaker 4>running up against who said about Dick Cheney as they

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<v Speaker 4>may he rest in piss, which upset a lot of Republicans,

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<v Speaker 4>but we need that kind of blunt speaking. He's been

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<v Speaker 4>talked about a potential candidate against Jeffries. I think it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be different, difficult to primaryquem Jefferies.

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<v Speaker 1>But why do you think so?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the machine is very strong in places like

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<v Speaker 3>his district.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've seen reports about internal poland be good,

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<v Speaker 4>but look, anything's possible. When I interviewed or On Mondani

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<v Speaker 4>in December twenty twenty four, and I told him this

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<v Speaker 4>to his face recently when they interview him again, it

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<v Speaker 4>was a pity interview. I was like, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 4>give this scat platform. He's at one percent, he's a lefty.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. I didn't expect him to win. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be on very honest about that.

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<v Speaker 4>He was at one percent and he beat Andrew Cromo twice,

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, it can be done. And I think they

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<v Speaker 4>should both be really worried, especially Chuck Schuber. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>forget primary Senate Democrats should be forcing his resignation right now.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy is useless.

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<v Speaker 4>There are many other Democrats who wo do a much

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<v Speaker 4>better job, Chris Murphy, Bryan Schotts, Chris van Holland, people

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<v Speaker 4>are going out and taking the fight to Republicans. And

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<v Speaker 4>meanwhile Schumer's like, I will write you another sternly worded letter,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, you're not the man for this moment.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason I think they should be challenged is because

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<v Speaker 5>when I saw HACKEM. Jeffrey's on Jake Taple this weekend,

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<v Speaker 5>I have a lot of reasons I think should be many.

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<v Speaker 5>But I saw him on Jake Tabbit this weekend and

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<v Speaker 5>they asked him, does he think Madani is the future

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<v Speaker 5>of the Democratic Party, and he was like, no, Congress

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats and Congress, what does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you could end every Hakeem Jeffrey's interview and say,

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<v Speaker 4>what does that even mean? The man is a walking

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<v Speaker 4>talking word salad. It's just in si. There was a

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<v Speaker 4>time when he used to be compared to Obama, which

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's just the racist thing. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like a young black guy, he's Obama. Here's nothing like Obama.

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<v Speaker 4>He's one of the most ineloquent people I've come across.

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<v Speaker 4>He talks like a robot. Even when he was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to explain why he hadn't remember. When they would asking

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<v Speaker 4>like why haven't you endorsed mom Dan, he would be

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<v Speaker 4>like he would come up with all tortuous sentences to

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<v Speaker 4>explain himself.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you want a party led by a robot

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<v Speaker 4>like Hakim when you can have a party led by

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<v Speaker 4>a kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Dynamo like Zara Mumdani.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's it's just as simple as that, or an

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<v Speaker 4>AOC or many other people, or you know, a grand Platt.

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<v Speaker 3>People who actually have I think people.

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<v Speaker 4>Are just fed up of the old way of doing policies.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that, we know that since twenty sixteen. The

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans worked that out a long time ago. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats still haven't quite worked it out. There's still in Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying to run seventy seven year old governor to

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<v Speaker 4>be a first term senator just to stop grand platn

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<v Speaker 4>at this populist candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like they don't learn any lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it shows how out of touch the Democratic

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<v Speaker 5>Party is when they're giving MUNDANEI credit and he should

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<v Speaker 5>get credit, but giving him credit for using social media

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<v Speaker 5>galvanizing young people in talking about affordability.

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<v Speaker 1>He told it a basis I know, like Obama did Dad.

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<v Speaker 3>In a eight.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing that this guy had to come on and

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<v Speaker 4>remember how Mumdani becomes famous. He goes out in Queen's

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<v Speaker 4>after the presidential election and he just stops people and says,

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<v Speaker 4>did you vote for Trump?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you vote for Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>There's no hectoring, there's no heckling, just has conversations with them,

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<v Speaker 4>and at the end he's like, well, I'm running for mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I do.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're like, yeah, we support that. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>those kind of conversations it's not rocket sciences.

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<v Speaker 3>You say to have that.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're a party that's captured by donors and

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<v Speaker 4>the corporate class and special interests, as the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 4>sadly is, especially at the higher levels, then it's very

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<v Speaker 4>hard for you to have those conversations. Like you say,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's not rocket science, it's like, oh, people want

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<v Speaker 4>cheaper rent and cheaper buses and more affordable Like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is not rocket science. But if you yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>beholden to people who say it can't be done, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't promise that this is impossible. And one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things you'd said in the speech last night is that

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<v Speaker 4>he's redefined what is possible or impossible.

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<v Speaker 5>Does this win for shadow a shift in the national

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<v Speaker 5>democratic strategy, because I mean the Madonnas were the only

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<v Speaker 5>progressive last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else is pretty much establishment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I think that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what a lot of pundits are going to spin it,

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<v Speaker 4>as they're already spinning it as as look look.

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<v Speaker 3>At the We got a CIA officer elected in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a former Navy pilot in New Jersey who

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<v Speaker 4>cares about the democratic socialist student in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people are going to buy it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think any person looks at Spanberger and show

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<v Speaker 4>with a great respect to his two new women governors

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<v Speaker 4>won great victories and thinks that is the future. To

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the question that haquem Win Nuns they're

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<v Speaker 4>the future of the party, They're not. I mean, they are,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, replacement level centrist Democrats who.

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<v Speaker 3>Won on a blue wave.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I saw a poli Estay NBC exit poll

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<v Speaker 4>said that forty percent of people in New Jersey and

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia so the sole reason for voting for Democrats was

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<v Speaker 4>to be anti Trump. So as long as you have

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<v Speaker 4>that Trump weighing down the Republican ticket, Democrats will benefit

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<v Speaker 4>from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Zora Mum done.

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<v Speaker 4>He's offering something different. He's not just People aren't just

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<v Speaker 4>voting for him because they're anti Trump. That is not

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<v Speaker 4>the energy that's coming, especially from young people. It's because

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<v Speaker 4>he is offering a different sort of politics, a different

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<v Speaker 4>sort of vision somebody who is willing to stand with

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<v Speaker 4>working people. He began his speech last night talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the working class, which again many Democrats have not talked

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<v Speaker 4>about for a long time. Platner is Bernie does, AOC

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<v Speaker 4>does and now ma'm dani. So I hope they take

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<v Speaker 4>the right lessons. But I suspect they won't. I suspect

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<v Speaker 4>they'll say nan, no, no, Let's look at what the

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<v Speaker 4>centrists did. And by the way, I mean, Abigail Spanberger,

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<v Speaker 4>what did she run on?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Democrats anti Trump, So.

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<v Speaker 4>If she's the model, okay, but what does she run

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is the thing. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>Mikey Sheryl who won in New Jersey, she may be

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<v Speaker 4>a centrist. She ran on a very very popular Skenny

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<v Speaker 4>she said, you know, she said she's having to freeze

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<v Speaker 4>electricity rates. How come we didn't have national debate about

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<v Speaker 4>that's unrealistic. You can't do that right. In fact, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people say it's illegal for her to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether she'll be able to call a state.

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<v Speaker 3>Of point is who cares.

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<v Speaker 4>She said it, She's trying it. She showed that she

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<v Speaker 4>gives her damn about what people care about. And uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know the double standard is mmdanna oh, prove it,

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<v Speaker 4>prove it, prove it. Nobody said that to mikel Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we live in Jersey. That's all I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>I voted for Mikey Hierroll and that's what I voted

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<v Speaker 5>for her. I voted her because she was talking about affordability,

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<v Speaker 5>because she was talking about lawer in taxes, because she

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<v Speaker 5>was talking about doing things like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Electric builds like your building, Like, yeah, that's that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>My only reason voting war.

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<v Speaker 4>But is it interesting that she said should freeze electricity bills?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's right because you only questioned the left wing guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're right. I do have a question, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have you spoke to mom Donni with the One thing

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<v Speaker 2>that scares me about Mondanni is when you see the

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<v Speaker 2>post like that and you see the amount of hate

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting, do you speak to him about security?

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<v Speaker 3>Safety? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And how does he feel about that? Because I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen so much hate. You know, you can question somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>but the hate that's coming out of these people sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's going to be worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you talked to him about security and make sure.

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<v Speaker 3>When I interviewed him just a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it was a day or two days after a

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<v Speaker 4>guy had just been arrested for making death threats against

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<v Speaker 4>his staff, And that was before the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 4>of his campaign where they really ratcheted up this kind

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<v Speaker 4>of radical Islamic coming. See Ted Cruz was tweeting he's

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<v Speaker 4>a literal jihadis.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's just be clear to people what chump said.

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<v Speaker 3>He's used.

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<v Speaker 2>I see somebody say should be deported like it's.

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<v Speaker 3>They're putting a pictures of nine to eleven, right, They're

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<v Speaker 3>using nine to eleven against this guy who was what

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<v Speaker 3>nine years old on nine eleven. I'm not looking at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Bloomberg funded the super pack that did that ad

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<v Speaker 4>with the picture of his face over nine eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>These people should be ashamed of themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Cromo went on a podcast and laughed when the

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<v Speaker 4>host said, well, he'd be cheering on another nine to

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<v Speaker 4>eleven Ted Cruz, I mean, it's so hypocritical. These Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>spent weeks going on about Charlie Kirk. Right last time

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<v Speaker 4>I came on your show, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 4>day before or the day of the killing of Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 4>We spent weeks of Republicans say, if you say fascist,

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<v Speaker 4>that means you're insideing hate Again, if you call us

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<v Speaker 4>a Nazi, you're gonna get us killed. Look at your language.

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<v Speaker 4>They have spent the last few weeks calling this guy

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<v Speaker 4>a jihadis. I want to be clear to your viewers,

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<v Speaker 4>a jihadist in the eyes of the American political stablished.

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<v Speaker 4>Other people on the planes, the nine to eleven planes

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<v Speaker 4>is isis is Bokoharam is al Qaider. That is what

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<v Speaker 4>you are comparing him to. That's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He literally is.

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans have said one after another, he's a terrorist, He's

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<v Speaker 4>a jihadist, he's a communist, he hates Jews, he hates

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<v Speaker 4>America based on nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that's going to insight. Hey, of course there's.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna be death threats. I do worry about a security.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope he has good security now now that he's

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<v Speaker 4>the mayor. Before he was the cand that I think

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<v Speaker 4>he had a couple of m YPD guys. I hope

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<v Speaker 4>they have a lot of security. It's actually it's scary

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<v Speaker 4>the level of Islamophobia. I think I talked to a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of Muslims. I am Muslim.

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<v Speaker 3>Wherever I go.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Texas at the weekend, previous week imes,

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<v Speaker 4>in California. Wherever I go and speak to Muslims, everyone

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<v Speaker 4>agrees that the Islamophobia now is even worse than it

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<v Speaker 4>was after nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>What why?

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<v Speaker 4>Just because they've had a twenty year head start to

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<v Speaker 4>ratchet this stuff up. They're well organized, they're well funded,

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<v Speaker 4>and they are petrified. I mean, you see the reactions

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<v Speaker 4>last night from all the kind of Daily Wire guys

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<v Speaker 4>and all those guys like New York's not a real

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<v Speaker 4>city anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It does contained real Americans. I mean, white supremacists are.

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<v Speaker 4>Much more embold and much more organized than they were

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<v Speaker 4>under George But I mean, just a reminder, I loathe

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<v Speaker 4>George Bush.

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<v Speaker 3>The man should be in the Hague. Dick Cheney died yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not shed a tear, but George Bush.

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<v Speaker 4>After nine eleven, even George Bush went to a mosque

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<v Speaker 4>and said, Islamist peace, Let's not blame more Muslims for

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<v Speaker 4>what happened. Can you imagine Donald Trump doing that today?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, none of these Republicans would, and they are

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<v Speaker 4>waiting for him to kind of pin more stuff on him.

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<v Speaker 4>The hate is out of control. And the hypocrisy from

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<v Speaker 4>these people who spent the last month telling us toned

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<v Speaker 4>down the language, don't get us killed, and they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's I worry.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say to Mundani though?

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<v Speaker 5>And I would love to ask him this question for

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<v Speaker 5>Jewish people who have real fear right or for you know, Cuba.

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<v Speaker 5>I was talking to a couple of my Cuban friends

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<v Speaker 5>last night and they was like, he's a communist. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>looking at it, and he's a communist is so obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>Those that have not been affected by communism don't see

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<v Speaker 5>it and don't care to see it. He's selling an

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<v Speaker 5>unrealistic dream that unfortunately ignorant people and people who are

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<v Speaker 5>easily swayed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's allbs.

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<v Speaker 5>A guy who's never worked a day in his life,

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<v Speaker 5>living on mommy's money for del Castro, was charismatic and

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<v Speaker 5>made promises, and when he took the range he killed

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<v Speaker 5>his number two and declared he was Marxist.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba has been in this shits ever since.

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<v Speaker 5>What are you saying to those people? Why do you

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<v Speaker 5>tell Mandani to handle those people?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say to Cuban Americans in good faith, Cuban

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<v Speaker 3>Americans who worry about communism in Cuba, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember Fidel Castro's platform being fast and free buses,

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<v Speaker 3>freeze the rents, universal childcare. To go back to the

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<v Speaker 3>how we began the discussion, like that is not communism,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you got to go get a.

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<v Speaker 4>Dictionary or educate yourself about what communism is. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>knowing he's not a communist, He's a democratic socialist. He

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<v Speaker 4>is what Bernie Sanders is. And in this country, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, democratic socialist is not even real socialism.

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically European social democracies.

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<v Speaker 4>What the Scandinavians have, you know who universal childcare, Finland,

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<v Speaker 4>Iceland and Denmark, Sweden, these countries have universe childcare. They're

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<v Speaker 4>very nice places, very mild places. Go on holiday, Americans

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<v Speaker 4>go to Sweden. It is not communist Cuba like the

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<v Speaker 4>kind of again the incendiary rhetoric. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>I would argue that that's actually a very good position

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<v Speaker 4>for to be in. They know the socialist stuff doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>work anymore because people are like, we quite like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So now have you noticed they ratchet it up he's

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<v Speaker 4>a communist. Trump said on sixty minutes, He's not a socialist,

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 4>he's a communist. They've even ratcheted that up because they

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<v Speaker 4>know their attacks aren't working. It's so cynical. And on

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<v Speaker 4>the front, on the antisemitis of the front. Last night

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<v Speaker 4>in his speech he said again, he said, I will

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<v Speaker 4>stand with Jewish New Yorkers against the scourge of antisemitism.

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<v Speaker 3>He said it again.

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<v Speaker 4>I interviewed Brad Lander last night, who was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the main guys who endorsed him, and during the race,

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<v Speaker 4>one of his top allies Jewish American standing up to

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<v Speaker 4>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all bs.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would point out, by the way, one in

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<v Speaker 4>three Jewish Americans, according to the Exit Pole Jewish New

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<v Speaker 4>Yorkers voted for und Nanni right. Majority didn't, but one

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<v Speaker 4>in three voted, a significant minority of Jewish people.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a monolithic.

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<v Speaker 4>Community the Jewish community, like any community, there are different views.

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<v Speaker 4>And a third of Jews in New York said, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, we like Zora mum Dandy. We don't buy

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 4>the bs about Zora Mumdy. And I've said this many

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<v Speaker 4>times to people. Show me the one antisemitic statement he's

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<v Speaker 4>made show me one, just.

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<v Speaker 3>One say it was one.

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<v Speaker 5>They was pointing the rap lyrics. I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 5>the lyrics are, but told me these rap lyrics.

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<v Speaker 4>No, there was rap lyrics about He was supporting a

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<v Speaker 4>group of Muslims who had been detained at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a very controversial case during the War on

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<v Speaker 4>Terror during the Bush period, the Holy Land Foundation folks

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<v Speaker 4>who were accused of channeling money to Hamas. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>civil liberties issue. You can disagree or agree with it.

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<v Speaker 4>That was his position. I challenge anyone to find me

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<v Speaker 4>a state from from zaraon mum Daney where he says

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<v Speaker 4>something anti Jewish, antisemitic.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>He spends his.

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<v Speaker 4>Time cherishing diversity. He is the diversity candidate. It was

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Cromo on an MSNBC and confused Eugene Daniels with

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 4>Jonathan k par two black men, got them wrong way around,

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<v Speaker 4>and said, well, diversity is not in that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not our strength and all this crap that we're hearing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just it's so cynical, the weaponization of antisemitism

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<v Speaker 4>against Let's be honest, it's not about antisemitism about the

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 4>fact that he's anti Israel the fact that he's a

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<v Speaker 4>critic of Israel, and it's a conflation of the two.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 4>He's he's very unapologetic about his criticism of Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what pissed all these people off.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you boy that because you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>did see an n last name with mins Shapiro and

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<v Speaker 5>he referred to him as anti Israel, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>is it fair to say he's anti Israel?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he anti the.

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli government that is, you know, uh, committing war crimes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in God, well, he's definitely anti that, as every

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 4>person with a heart should be. If you're not anti

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 4>this Israeli government, you're a sociopath. But in terms of

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 4>the actual they would argue, let me just be fair

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<v Speaker 4>to the critics. The critics would say he is anti

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<v Speaker 4>Israel because when he was asked does it have a

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<v Speaker 4>right to exist as a Jewish state, he says he

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<v Speaker 4>believes it has a right to exist with equality for everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>and this goes to the debate around Zionism and the

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<v Speaker 4>nature of a Jewish state. Zara mum Nani's position is,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm an American. I believe in equal rights for everyone.

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 4>I want that everywhere. Israel doesn't have that. Palestinians aren't full,

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<v Speaker 4>first class equal citizens in Israel, even inside of Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what I support. The funny thing is he

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<v Speaker 4>also says that about Saudi Arabia. He says about India right,

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<v Speaker 4>he's criticized the Indian government for its ethno nationalism. He's

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<v Speaker 4>against ethno nationalism. We're Americans, we should all be against

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 4>ethno nationalism. So it's all exaggerated, I think a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>But you're right. Fundamentally, he's against genocide in Gaza, as

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<v Speaker 4>are most Americans, as our forty percent of American do

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>you think it to genocide in Gaza?

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<v Speaker 3>Again, not a monolithic community.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.959
<v Speaker 4>But that's what really annoyed Bill Ackman. That's what annoyed

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 4>Ben Shapiro. Not anything to do with antisemity. That's all

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 4>been completely cynically weaponized against them. And you'll see that

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<v Speaker 4>as mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>People will be fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got another question about the government shut down. The

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 5>ACA premiums have already gone up, they're set for the year. Democrats,

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<v Speaker 5>we appreciate the effort, but isn't it time to reopen

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<v Speaker 5>the government.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who's in judge of the government.

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans, But you still need those eight Democrat boatstable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because of the filibuster they now want to get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of. By the way, Yeah, I spent years.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying anybody, I don't care who's responsible for it's a bidparty.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna take a bio Bardies effort. But isn't it

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<v Speaker 5>time to reopen the government?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course it's time to reopen the government. But

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 4>the Republicans in judge of the government. You cannot have

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<v Speaker 4>still need a democratic but you cannot have a political

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 4>system that always relies on only the Democratic Party being

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<v Speaker 4>the responsible party.

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<v Speaker 3>You just can't. America cannot survive.

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 4>We've created It's like having toddlers, right, they probably go

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 4>about are a bunch of toddlers, and everyone else has

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 4>to be the adults in the room. And that cannot

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 4>continue indefinitely. And at some point I'm glad Democrats have

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>drawn aline, even with humor and Jeffries where they're saying,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>you know what, it's up to Republicans to govern responsibly.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 4>It's up to Republicans to stick to their pledges.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know they can't.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 3>But that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>But we know the reason I say it with the

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 4>greate disrespect, My friend, you're part of the problem. You

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 4>can't say we know they can't because that immediately gives

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 4>Republicans a possible puts the entire American democracy, American government,

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<v Speaker 4>American economy only in the hands of one party should have.

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<v Speaker 1>To deal with.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, but we know Republicans aren't going to do

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 5>the right thing Renners. Do you know they're talking about

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 5>cutting snap benefits. People got childcare to pay light bill

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 5>card notes. We need groceries like we need the Democrats

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<v Speaker 5>to say, Okay, we know you're not going to give

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<v Speaker 5>us no concessions.

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<v Speaker 1>We fought the good fight. We're going to both to

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<v Speaker 1>reopen the government.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem with that argument is if you're worried about

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<v Speaker 4>human suffering, the counter argument is that reopening the government

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<v Speaker 4>on Republican terms increases human suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but the elections.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.719
<v Speaker 5>The elections in twenty twenty six, so now you can

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 5>say Republicans are responsible for your humor suffering. Republicans are

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 5>the reason you got high health care, so let's change

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 5>this in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have the numbers off the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of the stuff that Trump did in

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 4>the big beautiful bill, all the horrific stuff. They very

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 4>smartly delayed that till after the terms. At the premium

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 4>is a lot of pain. So look, there's a strategic

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 4>argument for doing what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been around long enough to know that this always

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 4>ends with the Republicans benefiting from Democrats rolling over. And

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to see Democrats not rolling over.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm with you, but it's hard to see all this

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<v Speaker 5>human stuff. These food banks are sold. The line food

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 5>banks are so long. You know, we got government workers

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 5>calling up here every day.

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>But the fact that people, but the fact that you

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<v Speaker 4>and I are talking about Democrats are not Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 4>starving Americans and saying he said at the weekend he goes,

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<v Speaker 4>I will a court.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just be very clear. A court has said he

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<v Speaker 3>must release the funds to pay for SNAP and.

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<v Speaker 4>He said I'm not going to do it. That should

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 4>be the conversation. It's not should Democrats open the governments?

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.239
<v Speaker 4>Should Donald Trump follow the law?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm just saying the government should be reopen. We

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 5>just know it takes a Biparti's in effort to do it. Yes,

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 5>Republicans are the main issue, but we can't act like it.

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, eight Democrats.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be interesting see if they get rid he's not

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 4>pushing for the philibuster, new King. It'll be interesting to

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 4>see if they get rid of that philibuster because of course,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 4>in the long run, that will help Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a good night last night. Reopen the government,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you, but I'm saying it's Republicans have

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<v Speaker 4>to reopen the government.

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a bipartisan effort.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they control the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, Democrats.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm not even saying Democrats are a problem. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just saying it is a bipartisan effort.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I'm sying to get people their money, and

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying I'm saying there's a cush to doing it.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 5>And you know, and you know, the where the where

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 5>where it's kind of disingenuous is if by some chance

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Republicans do make concessions, aren't you going to give the

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats credit? And what if the Democrats make concessions on healthcare?

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>If the Democrats are republic I mean, if Republicans.

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<v Speaker 5>Make concessions on healthcare. Aren't you going to give the

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 5>Democrats credit? I mean yes, so you got to give

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 5>them this credit now with the government being.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>That they have a role to play.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, but it's about but the problem whose responsibility is it?

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<v Speaker 4>That's the point I don't think again, it goes back

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<v Speaker 4>to my thing. I can't treat Republicans like children and toddlers.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think American democracy can survive if we only

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 4>have a two party system and one of the two

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 4>parties is completely we just don't take seriously. They can

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 4>do whatever the hell they want. They can break any

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 4>law it could want, any judge, shut down any government program,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 4>n usaid like that, and again, the costs of reopening

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 4>the gun, the costs of conceding on the Medicaid cuts.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 3>And all of that stuff. Your point is, well, next

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 3>year they can point in the midterms, what about the

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 3>suffering on that front till the midterms? What the people

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 3>are gonna lose health care?

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with that, but man, that's one high bill

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 5>to pay as opposed to not being able to pay

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 5>your rent, not being able to put your card, not

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 5>be able to pay your childcare. Even if you have healthcare.

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 5>Now you still can't pay. Agree because you're not making

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<v Speaker 5>any money.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree to the horrific situation. It's why I wish

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 4>people are not re elected Donald Trump.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are where we are.

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 4>We got Donald Trump for another three years minimum, maybe longer,

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 4>as you and I fear.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 5>And Democrats have to be the adults in neural because

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 5>of that, they just have too many I know you,

0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 5>I know we don't want him to be I'll tell

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 5>you I shouldn't be like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is no, but it isn't.

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 3>Because I think you can.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to change the way we talk about politics,

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 4>the way we organize, the way with the media covers

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 4>this stuff. Because the minute you do this, let me

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 4>just give you a let's say they open the government tomorrow.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 4>Let's sa'se eight Democrats to fill them or whatever they

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>come in government?

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<v Speaker 3>Open up? What is that? What precedent does that say?

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>It just means that Republicans will keep doing this again

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 4>and again, knowing that you've got three more years of

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 4>pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, but hopefully with the next year you can say,

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<v Speaker 5>look at your health care benefits.

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>The healthcare benefits are high as hell.

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 5>It's because of Republicans twenty twenty six, y'all need to

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 5>change this.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 4>So the Republican body runs a completely operate opposite manual.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 4>When they're in opposition, they do everything they can, obviously

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 4>to not make government where they don't care if people

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 4>are starving and can't pay their rent. But then they

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 4>electorally benefit from that right. They benefit from saying, ah,

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 4>the government didn't work. Ah, things didn't get through, and Democrats, unfortunately,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 4>I think, are gonna have to use that playbooks as

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 4>cynical and ruthless as has to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ, I don't see another alternative. You tell me

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 3>what the alternative is.

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 4>You're hoping that the government opens up and things go

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<v Speaker 4>back to normal, whatever normal is, and.

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Then people blame the Republicans. I'm to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would rather the government be open, people be

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<v Speaker 5>getting paid, And we're having these arguments about healthcare and

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<v Speaker 5>Republicans fucking shit up without you know, people having the

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<v Speaker 5>Mispaid checks.

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<v Speaker 4>But if the governments open up, this democratic argument I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a Democrat, but the Democratic Party argument is if

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<v Speaker 4>the government's open up, you're gonna have huge costs in

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<v Speaker 4>the healthcare world.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, that's one bill as opposed to people not

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<v Speaker 5>getting no checks to pay lights, rent daycare, like no

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<v Speaker 5>money coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's an fed up situation in this country.

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<v Speaker 3>We shouldn't. By the way, can I just point this

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<v Speaker 3>out to people who are listening or watching. I'm for

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<v Speaker 3>the UK. I have an immigrant to the US.

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<v Speaker 4>No other country functions like this. There's no other Western

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<v Speaker 4>democracy that has government shutdowns. There's no other Western democracy

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<v Speaker 4>that has debt ceilings.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all.

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<v Speaker 4>Artificial crap that's in our system that needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>fixed again when the Democrats are in office, they need

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<v Speaker 4>to fix this stuff so that we don't have this

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<v Speaker 4>constant cycle of this nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>The people are like, this is why people hate politics.

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<v Speaker 3>To go back to what I said at the start.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, at least we got people here, you here bring

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<v Speaker 5>some clarity to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you for joining us this morning. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for breaking it down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure you'll be back sooner than.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, not to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks case.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we come back, we got the ladiest

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<v Speaker 2>with Lawrence, So don't go anywhere it's the breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, hold up every day a week ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Pack your ass up the breakfast club, you finish for

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<v Speaker 5>y'all done,