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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. So there's a movie that just came out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard about it, Sicky. No, not that one.

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Speaker 1: What am I five years old?

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Speaker 2: It is an art choosing gladiators. They're usually prisoners of war.

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Speaker 1: No, not that one. What am I five thousand years old?

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Speaker 1: Although at least I hear Ridley Scott allowed men's thighs

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Speaker 1: to be in this one. No, the movie, the movie

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Speaker 1: that anyone who's ever been a ten year old theater

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Speaker 1: people born wicked.

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Speaker 2: Or should they have wickedness thrust upon them?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Wicked Part one is in theaters and it's good

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Speaker 1: and everyone likes it. And if you're like Jamie, I

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Speaker 1: thought you were a guys girl. Why have you seen

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Speaker 1: Wicked more than once? Well, guess what, I've seen it

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Speaker 1: three times. And being a musical theater fan is not

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Speaker 1: a gendered experience, Okay. And also I am a huge

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Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz fan in general, always have been. It's

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Speaker 1: my favorite movie, and in middle school I made that

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Speaker 1: one will notice that I have a backbrace. Teeth braces

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Speaker 1: didn't work, but I retained a lot. I love the

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine classic movie starring Judy Garland. I love

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Speaker 1: the L. Frank Bomb books, which were far more complicated

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Speaker 1: Rosalie of Oz that I sometimes kind of want to

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Speaker 1: record an audiobook for like for fun. I am not

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Speaker 1: a fake fan. I know my shit. And just as

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Speaker 1: I was getting really into oz Lare during those middle

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Speaker 1: school years, I learned that there was another piece of

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Speaker 1: Wicked Witch of the West, who in the adaptation is

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Speaker 1: Glinda upland based on the books Wicked and Son of

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Speaker 1: I need to give a quick lesson who is Glinda

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Speaker 1: the good Witch? Well, it's a bit of a complicated question,

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Speaker 1: pornographic details of Gregoriya Maguire's novel Wicked. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you about miss Glinda because many of you are not educated,

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Speaker 1: Princess matt Piesero, the wicked witch of the East Row.

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Speaker 4: Your sixteenth minute starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to sixteenth Minute, the podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: when we come back? My conversation with the Matt Pisero.

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Speaker 1: Imagine me pulling out a knife. Here, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Neopets is exactly as I left it in middle school,

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Speaker 1: Wicked Witch of the East Bro, Matt Pisero.

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Speaker 2: My name is Matt Pasero. I am the Wicked Witch

436
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Speaker 2: of the East Bro and as as much as there's

437
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: many imitators out there. There is only myself. There's a

438
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: lot of people now since the movie's coming out, there's

439
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: a lot of people saying it's their video, and it's

440
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: it's really, it's my video. It's my video, even though

441
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: I haven't done anything with it. It is my video.

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00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: That's craven. Wait, who has are people? Do people believe

443
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: it's someone else?

444
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Will you? Well, you know Jimmy Fallon and Ariana Grande

445
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: a yeah video, And there's there's a lot of comments

446
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: underneath saying tag this person or that person in the video.

447
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: And I had my cousin actually was the one. I'm

448
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: very I take a back seat on a lot of this.

449
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: I take a back seat on a lot of this stuff.

450
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: But she she made sure to comment on every single

451
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: comment to be like, no, this is the person that

452
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: you should be tagging in this video. Good.

453
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: You need someone like charging into the comments on your behalf.

454
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: They're shut. Absolutely, I'm surprised.

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00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm honestly, I was like, with the movie coming up,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised we got you. Thank you, thank you for

457
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Speaker 1: telling me.

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00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: It's a perfect perfect timing, right, It's fantastic timing. Every

459
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: year it seems to have a yea of some kind.

460
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: Somebody posts it in relation to something and it just

461
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: and my my my Instagram or my my Facebook. People

462
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: find me. I don't know how they find me. I'm

463
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: not I'm not somebody that says, hey, look for me.

464
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: I want to be right viral.

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Speaker 1: So I have a lot of questions for you about that,

466
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Speaker 1: because that's like fairly unusual. Most people are like, yes,

467
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Speaker 1: let's do this. But before we get there, I want

468
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Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about you. Where are

469
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Speaker 1: you from? Where'd you grow up?

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Speaker 2: I I live in Canada, so Ontario. Yeah, I grew

471
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: up here. The video was shot in Peterborough, Peterborough. I

472
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: was living in Peterborough at the time. If you want

473
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: a little backdrop, we were. The backdrop of the story

474
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: is we were. We were out day drinking at at

475
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Speaker 2: a bar at a brock Street I'll do a shout

476
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Speaker 2: out for brock Street Brewery in Peterborough.

477
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Speaker 1: There should be a plaque there. Yeah.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we were there day drinking and then we

479
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: went home and back to Peterborough where I was living

480
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: at the time, and that's what happened. But yeah, I

481
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: uh yeah living. I'm thirty five. I'm a much older

482
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Speaker 2: gentleman than I look. A lot of people think I'm

483
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Speaker 2: in my early twenties, which I take the compliment. Yeah,

484
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: thirty five, livin in Oshua, one kid, a wife, little

485
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: little house, just just small, small time eleven. No, I

486
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: don't want to have that uber fame, I think. Anyways,

487
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm now at the point with the all my friends

488
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: and family that I know is like, what are you doing?

489
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: Like you're you're down with like this video blows off

490
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Speaker 2: all the time. Why are you here out of your

491
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: mind to not do.

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Speaker 1: Something right when this video came out? And just in general,

493
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Speaker 1: what is your relationship to the internet like.

494
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Bait zero? Like I said, I'm thirty five, so I'm

495
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Speaker 2: assuming we're similar.

496
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Speaker 1: Age ish Yeah, I'm thirty one.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we grew up in the pre internet time

498
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: and I got Facebook when I was in grade ten.

499
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: I got Instagram in twenty twenty one, so two years

500
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: after that video and viral. I never had Instagram before that.

501
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 2: I got Instagram for whatever reason I don't know. I

502
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: now have Instagram and I'm addicted to scrolling reels now.

503
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Speaker 2: It's a blessing and a curse all in one, right,

504
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: So I got Facebook, I got Instagram. Keep me off

505
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Speaker 2: of everything else.

506
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Speaker 1: You're on the Zuckerberg products.

507
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Beat me away from it. I don't want nothing to

508
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Speaker 2: do with it. You start them young, now, I think

509
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: that's how it works, right. I'm pretty sure there's parents

510
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: out there that make the Facebook account for they're two

511
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: month old, and then they write on it like CALLI

512
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: loves you and she says hello.

513
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Speaker 1: Okay, So your relationship to the Internet, you're You're a

514
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: pretty offline guy.

515
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: Basically nothing. Well, I'm in car sales. My job for

516
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: the last long while has been car sales, So I

517
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: guess I have a little bit of a little bit

518
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: of a relationship to the Internet because I do post

519
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: videos for stuff like that. But oh, okay, I guess

520
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never I've never bridged the gap

521
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: between the internet thing that is that video and what

522
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: I do for my job. I'm sure there is some

523
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: sort of balance that could be made there that I've

524
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: never capitalized on.

525
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: But and of course, your relationship to the Wizard of

526
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Speaker 1: Oz prior to this this big moment.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's the question everyone asked, and that's

528
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: the question that everyone said they go. You know, everyone says,

529
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: this guy knows he's wrong. Right, he's not right, this

530
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: is wrong.

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Speaker 1: What he's that is not the feeling I got from you, of.

532
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: Course, right. I've lived my entire life with the conviction

533
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: of whether you're right or wrong. If you're the loudest

534
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: in the room, you're the asshole, and you're probably going

535
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously. So I'm well aware that my

536
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: argument was wrong. It's not right. Right. So people have

537
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: told me multiple times that that you are very wrong

538
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: in what you say. And I will stand by my

539
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: conviction to this point that I am right. She came

540
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: down in a bubble sock, she's princess right.

541
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Speaker 1: You do deliver it with a lot of confidence. It's

542
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and and if you do realize that you're wrong within

543
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: the space of the video, then the volume just increases. Right,

544
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: which is it's a good system to be fair.

545
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: That is that if you ask anybody in my life,

546
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: that is what they say, they say, Matt will not

547
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: even if he's wrong, he will argue until his last

548
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: breath that he's right.

549
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: So you should run for office or something.

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00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: That's another thing. Keep you out of it, keep you

551
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: off the internet, keep me out of office.

552
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: It's trouble all to yourself. Yeah, when was the last

553
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: time you had seen The Wizard of Oz prior to

554
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: the argument?

555
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: Like the main the first ever movie? Jesus, I don't.

556
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't know, probably when I was fourteen, twenty

557
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: years ago. Problem. Yeah, and the other guy, So, the

558
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: other guy in the video, he says it's his favorite video, right,

559
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: or a favorite video or movie. Sorry, it's his favorite

560
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: movie right right, and he watches it constantly. So I

561
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: had no right. I had no right argument with that

562
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: type of conduction. I haven't seen the movie in twenty years.

563
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: Who do I think I am right?

564
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: So walk me through this day you were day drinking?

565
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Who are you with? Who is this man to you?

566
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: And who is filming?

567
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: So I'll give you so I'll spill the tea. I'll

568
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: spill the tea here. Please. This is this is some

569
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: heavy TV, to be honest with you. The Internet, from

570
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: what I've read, loves loves this kind of stuff. So

571
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: the person filming the video is a very old friend.

572
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: I don't speak with her anymore. But the other guy

573
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: in the video is my cousin. Obviously grew up with him.

574
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: He's a couple of years younger than me. But how

575
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: the day started, Like I said, rockouse brewery, having some drinks,

576
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: going out, going back to our house, and we were

577
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Speaker 2: playing a game of headbands. You know, headbands?

578
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yeah.

579
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: Headbands on yet something in the headbands? So what was

580
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: on the headbands? Was Oz? Right? So I don't know

581
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: how it came about the argument. The argument just it

582
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 2: organically grew. So I'm whether I'm wrong or I'm right,

583
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: my conviction will be there. That's their way. And I also,

584
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm an instigator. I like to stir the pod a

585
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: little bit. Knowing this guy, I know I could stirre

586
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: the pod pretty easily, so instigate him a little bit.

587
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: I think it turned into I don't I don't really

588
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: know how the argument itself started with Oz. I don't know.

589
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: He couldn't get it, he couldn't get the clue of

590
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: Oz of the headman right, And yeah it was it

591
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: was probably that was probably halfway through an argument that

592
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: we were already having.

593
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: So I can only image starts.

594
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Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine what the video itself would have turned into.

595
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: If the recording would have started at the beginning of

596
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: the it would have been a twelve minute video and.

597
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: Then okay, so this is the peak of the argument.

598
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: The peak you caught. Yeah you got you cut the

599
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: head bob and the hair foil, which is which turned

600
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: it into whatever it is today. Right, So yeah, but

601
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: he we we actually so the TA itself is me

602
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: and him don't speak anymore. We haven't talked actually since

603
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: that video. So he he didn't want any sort of

604
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: quote unquote fane from that video, and we actually he

605
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: told us to delete the original video. And so when

606
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: it started blowing up, so after it was taken, it

607
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: blew up immensely.

608
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: So was it originally posted? And who posted it?

609
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: The girl who took the video posted it on one

610
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: of her Facebook pages, okay, something that she followed. It

611
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: was some sort of I don't think I had anything

612
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: to do with the Wizard of Bodds. What she posted

613
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: it on. She posted on some Facebook group and overnight

614
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: it had one hundred and seventy five thousand views. When

615
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: I woke up, it was literally like in the blink

616
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: of an eye like that, and I went, well, holy shit,

617
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: that's that's great. That's why, right, And the other guy

618
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: in the video said take it down now. After twenty

619
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: four hours he said, I don't want that. Take it

620
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: down now. The problem with the internet is when it's

621
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: on the internet. Yeah, if you remove that video from

622
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: whatever page you posted it, somebody already has it, right,

623
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: somebody has the video. So it ended up turning into

624
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: what it is today from us?

625
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 7: Was it?

626
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: He just didn't want that level of visibility.

627
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: Well, there's I guess there's more to it. He worked for,

628
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: he worked for the city that he worked in, Okay,

629
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: and he didn't want to lose his job. For whatever reason,

630
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: he thought he would lose his job if it went viral.

631
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: And I wasn't in the position to argue with him

632
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: to say, hey man, we might make a couple of

633
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: dollars off this if you if you sign on to

634
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: kind of turn it into something. It's good. It's already something.

635
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: So he's in the right in the video. Ultimately he

636
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: does does he have a knife in the video?

637
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: He's not in the right. See this is where were

638
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: you were about to.

639
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: Get into an Okay, Okay, why have I wrong?

640
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: He's in the wrong on this one. It may be

641
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: his favorite video, but I had this, I don't know.

642
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: I was on I was on Tosh point zero when

643
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: the video was one and all that kind of stuff. Right, Yeah,

644
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: I challenge anybody, anyone in the world to take a

645
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: look at this woman and say, no, that's a witch

646
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: and not a princess. That's not plausible. In my mind,

647
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: it's not a witch. I don't agree that it's a witch.

648
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: And you may write it into your script to tell

649
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: me it's a witch. I disagree with you, and I

650
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: will argue until my last breath.

651
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: There's so many realities that we can live. I mean,

652
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: it's you, she is. Here's what I'll concede. She is

653
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: like what we've been conditioned to think of as a princess.

654
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: So you you hold your ground.

655
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: I will hold my ground on that. I will hold you.

656
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: Tell me what you look like, and I will call

657
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: you by that that's okay, I look at you okay

658
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: by judgment, but I will.

659
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Look at you like princess.

660
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: You're a princess. You are you can call yourself a witch.

661
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: You're a princess of my eyes.

662
00:38:53,360 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: And when we come back more with Matt Pisero, welcome

663
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: back to sixteenth minute. I controversially find it weird how

664
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: Jeff gold Bloom poses with very young women in pictures.

665
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: And here's the rest of my interview with the Wicked

666
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Witch of the eastbro Matt Piserro. And then so I

667
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: do does your cousin have a knife in that video?

668
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: He does, Yes, he does, he does have a Yeah, okay,

669
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: he did threaten to stab me like in all that

670
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: unity and we're talking about it. If I probably hold

671
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: the case here, I could probably sue him for some

672
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: sort of He might have tried to kill me. I

673
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. He may we don't.

674
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: We don't know what happened after Well that that is

675
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: a question. I have what happened after the.

676
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: After the video? So I so I walk around the corner.

677
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: So the end of the video, I walk around the corner. Yeah, right,

678
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: he had a switchblade. He came with the switchblade. I

679
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: dodged it. He came my neck, dodged it, hit him

680
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: with a left jab right left job, knocked him down. Yes, no,

681
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: that's all I am. I'm it. He put the pocket

682
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: knife away. It was all right. Yeah, Like I said,

683
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm genuinely I'm known for being in my family that

684
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: person that instigates a little bit maybe a little bit

685
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: too much, right to be a borderline, obnoxiously arrogant and

686
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: overly confident in a way when you're wrong.

687
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Right, the video gets uploaded, everyone feels a different way

688
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: about it. It goes. You know, it seems like the

689
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: algorithm just like caught onto it, liked it. Your cousin

690
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: wants it down. Is it taken down and it's too late?

691
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Is that what happened?

692
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it was taken down. Gone, it was off

693
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: of the site we originally posted it on, and then

694
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: it was probably less it had to win less than

695
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: twenty four hours later after the video was taken down,

696
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: this person on Instagram I don't know, or on sorry,

697
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: on YouTube, I don't know who this person is. He

698
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 2: uploaded it on YouTube again. Immediately blew up. Immediately blew up.

699
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: The algorithm loves men screaming, is what I've learned.

700
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: What's that about. I don't get it. I don't understand.

701
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: My wife hates it. She despises it. I'm obnoxiously loud

702
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: all the time, and I don't know how to control it.

703
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: It's like I have a broken low volume knob and

704
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: it's always high. I don't know how to tone it down.

705
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: What is the experience of these first couple of days.

706
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Do people find you quickly? How are you feeling about

707
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: like this level of.

708
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: I was never I was never private, I wasn't private.

709
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: I never had Like I said, I didn't have Instagram

710
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: at this time, right, I only had Facebook and I

711
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: wasn't private on anything. So all it took was one

712
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: person saying is this is who it is? And then

713
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: they tagged me in it, and I think in the

714
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: span of twenty four hours, I had eight hundred friend requests.

715
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: As I woke up in the morning, I had to

716
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: put my phone on silent going to bed because there

717
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: was ding ding ding ding ding dingman over and over

718
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: and over again. I wanted to mess I wanted to

719
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: say something to be like, you're not you will not

720
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: be entertained by what you're adding right now. You're not

721
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: like you're adding me for whatever reason. But you're going

722
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: to get a picture of my nephew at this point,

723
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: because I live with my nephew. That's what you'll get.

724
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: So I've talked to a lot of people who when

725
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: after that first wave of attention, there's like sort of

726
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: this moment where you have to decide, like do I

727
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: want to do anything with this? Do I want to

728
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: just let it pass. How did you sort of approach that?

729
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the main thing when you said,

730
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: what would it even look like? Right? I don't know.

731
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: I grew up idolizing comedians in my younger years. I've

732
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: always been in that way, but I've never looked at

733
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: myself as somebody that would be internet famous, like to

734
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: do something on the internet. I don't know how that

735
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: would work. I don't know how I would do it.

736
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: I've had family members and friends be like, you're near

737
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: I have to launch? What the fuck do you do it?

738
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 6: Why?

739
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it account and start back? I'm like, what for? What?

740
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: What am I doing? What am I saying? Do I

741
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: sit down now in front of in front of a

742
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: camera and tell a story? I don't know. I never

743
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: had the desire to do it, To be honest, I

744
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: just I like I like my small life. I like

745
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: my little life. I like my family life. I've never

746
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: never wanted to branch out that way.

747
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: But there's always going to be people that are like,

748
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: you're crazy, like, how how could you you know you're

749
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: leaving money?

750
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, the thought of the

751
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: thought of the money makes me feel sick to my

752
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: stomach that could be there. Right, But I was never

753
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: even able to monetize the video, right, I wasn't able

754
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: to make any money off the video because of the

755
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: other guy in the video wouldn't sign off on any

756
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: sort of monetization of the video. So to not have

757
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: him in the video made it made it difficult, right,

758
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: So obviously I will leave his name ahead of.

759
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: This, so you don't need to answer this. But do

760
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: you not talk anymore because of like the fallout of

761
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: this video.

762
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: No, there's there's a little bit more to it. But okay,

763
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: family drama, everyone has it.

764
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I really do think that this

765
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: is like one of the only stories I've ever heard about,

766
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: like day drinking changing your life for perhaps the better.

767
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: The better this whole wave of attentions happening. You're not

768
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: able to monetize it. You don't want to like pivot

769
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: to become an influencer or anything like that.

770
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the whole the bubble itself, no pun intended

771
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: around being an influencer to being like I need to

772
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: come up with creations of doing so, and so I

773
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: just I don't I don't get it. Well, we did,

774
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: I did do a podcast. I did start a podcast

775
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: with two of my things. Yeah, we did. We did

776
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: a podcast for about a year and a half with

777
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: two of my friends called The Grocery Stick, and we

778
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: talked about we actually before I've done this now with you,

779
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: we talked about the creation of the video and we

780
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: it was more sports related and shooting the ship and

781
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: stuff like that, just joking around. Everybody and their cousins

782
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: started a podcast in the span of like between twenty

783
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: eighteen and now, Everyone's like, let's do a pod gas.

784
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: So we did that and then life gotten away and

785
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: we just kind of stopped. But we had seven people

786
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: listen to us at certain points.

787
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's fun. Were you like marketing that is,

788
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: like and I'm the guy from this video or you're.

789
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah at the beginning, at the beginning, we were,

790
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: but it just it never it never really took off,

791
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: and I didn't really expect it to. It was a

792
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: pastime really, honestly. We we just a reason to get together.

793
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: We thought we were funny. You know, when you get

794
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys together that think they're funny, that's

795
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: that's the meme on the internet now, right, A bunch

796
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: of together and starting.

797
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: In a room. Sure hurt it a millionaire.

798
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: A millionaire and you're going to say something off the cusp.

799
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: That's going to get because I've seen that you've you've

800
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: done a couple of appearances. How did you sort of

801
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: choose like what to engage with versus not?

802
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: I love Daniel Tosh. Daniel Tosh was my my one

803
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: of my comedic idols growing up, him and Dave Chapelle,

804
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: and there are certain people that I absolutely loved. And

805
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: then they that was they actually reached out to me.

806
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: I think it was a month and a half after

807
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: that video went viral. That was a no brainer for me.

808
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: That was like, yeah, I would love to talk to

809
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: you about the video, and that was that was my

810
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 2: first endeavor in anything like that. I couldn't have been

811
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: more nervous all the other stuff though, like with Ellen

812
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: in Ridiculousness. They just reached out to me to ask

813
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: to you the video And obviously I had the person

814
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: who recorded the video signed it on to me, like

815
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: they gave me the rights.

816
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: So I just said, I said, yeah, how do you

817
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: do that for like a video from someone's phone.

818
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: They were just like yeah, they signed the rights over

819
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: and it was my basically my video from their phone.

820
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: If this all happened again, and I guess it kind

821
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: of does? You're in like this kind of groundhog day loop? Yeah?

822
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Would you do it any differently? Would you want to

823
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: do it any differently? The next time it happens? Will

824
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: you want to do it differently?

825
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: I kind of I to be honest with you as

826
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: much as I say I don't, I don't want any

827
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: when it pops up, the amount of engagement that I

828
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: get from people around me, it's hilarious.

829
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Right, So rel just like people in your day to day.

830
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, day to day like I have. I have a

831
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: very like massive large group of friends, different circles and everything.

832
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: Like I'm actually on Sunday, there's a very good friend

833
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: of mine who's a tattoo artist. Her name is Day

834
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: and Day day read is her on Instagram, And we're

835
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 2: going to do a I'm going to do a huge

836
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 2: piece on my leg, wicked which of the east piece

837
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: on my leg? No way, I'm going to get my

838
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: whole leg done. I'm going to try and help her

839
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: grow her brand as I sit here and I live

840
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: in my small bungalow that I live in. But yeah,

841
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to help her, but there's nothing more that

842
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I would, I would do or want to do in

843
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: that situation. I would, I have I have no desire

844
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: to go viral. Ever.

845
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: Again, my last question maybe an obvious question, and are

846
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: you going to see Wicked?

847
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: So I don't think you're gonna like my answer here,

848
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so I will I. You

849
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: won't catch me in the theater. It's not about learning,

850
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: it's not about anything like that. You will not catch

851
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: the came. It's more about to be honest. I don't

852
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: want to get into it. But you won't catch me

853
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: supporting anything to do with the Hollywood elites about that.

854
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: I will not give them any of my money. I don't.

855
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't see movies. I don't have subscriptions. I have

856
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: nothing like that. I have nothing. I will not. I

857
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: will not step foot into a movie. I appreciate Ariana

858
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: Grande Age and I appreciate Jimmy fal John's. I appreciate

859
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: both of them. I like them. I like them both.

860
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: They did a great job with the video. But I

861
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: will not. I will not, and I might make you

862
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: know what. I take that back. Maybe I will see

863
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: the video or the movie. I might see the movie, okay,

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Speaker 2: but I will not pay money to go down in

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Speaker 2: the theater to see them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean I feel like they should probably

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Speaker 1: just send you a screener. Anyways.

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Speaker 2: I actually the funny thing is I got I got

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Speaker 2: reached out to somebody that works for Universal months wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: before the movie came out. It was probably three months ago.

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Speaker 2: They reached out to me and they sent me a

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Speaker 2: bunch of stuff and they asked me to come out

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Speaker 2: to LA to do this, and I sent them a

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Speaker 2: bunch of information and then I never heard back from them,

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Speaker 2: So I said, what do we do now?

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't see the movie either if they did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've reached out to me like, hey, we have

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Speaker 2: promotional things that we want to do. Your video is

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Speaker 2: super viral and we would love to have you do this.

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Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, I would I would love to

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Speaker 2: do a bunch of people. Sure. Yeah, And then they

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Speaker 2: said they said nothing. They said nothing back to me.

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Speaker 1: Are there like weird offers or things you've turned down

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Speaker 1: over the years that your life?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought a couple of people reach out. I've

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Speaker 2: had a couple. I had somebody that worked for Google,

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Speaker 2: Texels and multiple other like streaming services that were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: we'll give you money to do this, and then that

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Speaker 2: I had I had two bad experiences of people not

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Speaker 2: either getting back to me or me doing something for them,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't do anything for me, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not not doing that. Like I said, I have

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Speaker 2: no desire to do this. This is fun. I enjoy this.

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Speaker 2: You can get the background on the stener. This is fun.

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Speaker 2: You're you're very sweet yourself, and this is a fun conversation.

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Speaker 2: But I have no I have no desire to set

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Speaker 2: up a uh uh an Instagram account and me being like, well,

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Speaker 2: let me tell you what I think about this. Who

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Speaker 2: gives a shit about my opinion?

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Speaker 1: And again, I've just I wish more people thought that way.

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Speaker 1: I think that you're you're you're You're an inspiration to society.

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Speaker 2: From now on. Take a back seat. You're not important.

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Speaker 2: You don't matter. I don't matter. Right If I make

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Speaker 2: a video telling you how I feel about Wicked after

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Speaker 2: I watched movie and you take that with any sort

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Speaker 2: of conviction whatsoever, I think you have more of an

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Speaker 2: issue than I do.

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Speaker 1: You're cooked, You're good, Thank you so much. To Matt

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Speaker 1: for his time and his gameness, and you are welcome

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Speaker 1: for the exclusive You can follow Matt and I think

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Speaker 1: this is a first nowhere. He does not want to

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Speaker 1: be famous, but you can check out that tattoo he

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Speaker 1: mentions from his tattoo artist day Bond, which is linked

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Speaker 1: in the description of this episode. With that listeners, I

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Speaker 1: ask you the following, what maketh the Princess? What maketh

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Speaker 1: a witch? The answer is in the eye of the beholder, unless,

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Speaker 1: of course, the character explicitly self identifies as a witch.

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Speaker 1: Sixteenth minute as a production of fool Zone Media and

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. It is written, posted, and produced by me

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Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus.

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Speaker 7: Our executive producers are Sophieli Driven and Robert Evans. Lenaising

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Speaker 7: Ian Johnson is our supervising producer and our editor.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song.

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Speaker 7: Is by Sad thirteen. Voice acting is from Grant Crater

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Speaker 7: and pet. Shout outs to our dog producer Anderson, my

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Speaker 7: cat's flee and Casper and my pet Rockberd, who will

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Speaker 7: outlive us all.

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Speaker 1: Bye.