1 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast dot Josh Paint. It is 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: June eighth, or maybe ninth or tenth or eleventh, whenever 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: you're listening. The Year of Our Lord twenty twenty one. 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Got a loaded mail bag. This says all Q and 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: A twice a week on the best of weeks, and 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: we got a loaded mail bag this morning. If you 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: want to submit a question, Josh paid seven zero six 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. That's one way. You can also 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: DM me on Twitter or Instagram at Late Kick Josh. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: I threw down the gauntlet the other night on Latekick Live. 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to reiterate it right now. We want that 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Twitter account at twenty thousand by the time camp starts, 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: and I want ten thousand minimum on that Instagram account. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: We got some other things I'm working on too, with 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: a number of you. Like some of you guys regularly 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: step up and help on things, even though technically you 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: are not employees here. It's been a community effort, has 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: been since we started here, and we'll continue to be 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: that way. In fact, I would argue it probably will 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: be more expansive in nature this fall. So a lot 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: of folks help behind the scenes, and they are you. 23 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: You are the ones who helped behind the scenes, So 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Remember share this stuff. So that's 25 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: all I ask. Share this stuff five star reviews, Subscribe 26 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: to the YouTube channel twenty four to seven Sports YouTube, 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: follow me on the social accounts at late kick Josh. 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: That's how you help. I mean, that's what I ask for. 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Maybe one day down the road, we're having big events 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: where you can buy tickets and you can come listen 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: to us tell stories to each other that we can't 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: really tell on air. Hey, that'd be great. The way 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: to get there, the way to grow it to that 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: point is to do the free stuff first, and so 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: the easy stuff to me, click click click. That's really 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: all it takes. This morning. I don't want to waste 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: any more time because, as I said, we got a 38 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: loaded mail bag and there's a lot going on right now. 39 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: I think probably one hundred of you had already DMed 40 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: me or emailed me before I opened my eye Josh 41 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: this morning, and it was about this article by Pete 42 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: Thamil at Yahoo about the more likely route at the moment, 43 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: according to his sources, for playoff expansion being twelve teams. Yes, 44 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I read it. I'm not gonna make a huge deal 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: about it. You know, I've sort of backed off, not 46 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: my stance, but just this topic in gen over the 47 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: last month or two. And it's not that I've changed 48 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: my stance, it's just there's nothing really new to say. 49 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: And what I always try and caution against is having 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: anything I'm producing some like what everyone else is producing. 51 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: And I noticed there was a lot of overlap, more 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: overlap than I was comfortable with when I looked around 53 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: this space. And it's the dead time of year for 54 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: a lot of folks, and it's like pulling teeth asking 55 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: people to create authentic content. And so a lot of 56 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: folks were talking about playoff, playoff, playoff, and I just 57 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to be doing it. And I still don't 58 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: want to be doing it. But since there is somewhat 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: of a new tidbit of information out there with this 60 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: article this morning, I'll just tell you quickly it's horrible. 61 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: It's not unexpected. I don't know where you guys thought 62 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: this was going. I think some of you out there 63 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: who are in the let's expand it. But just to 64 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: six or eight crowd, you may listen to people like 65 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: me who are so steadfast against that and get so 66 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: bent out of shape against that, and you think I'm 67 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: the one with an issue, and you think I'm the 68 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: one who needs to be less rigid, and you need 69 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: to be more open to progress. This is not progress 70 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: because it's not going to go the way you think 71 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: it's going to go. You're sitting there. Essentially, what you're 72 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: saying is we're going to tear down the dam, but 73 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna put a stop sign up, so we're only 74 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna let the water go two hundred yards further downstream. 75 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna stop it there. You're not gonna stop anything. 76 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: You just can't see it. I'll tell you who I 77 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: feel like. I feel like Alan Grant played by Sam 78 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: Neil in Jurassic Park. This guy with this Santa Claus 79 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: beard and a billion dollars funding, has this grand idea, 80 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and he's found mosquitoes with dinosaur DNA fossilized in what 81 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: they called amber, and so they've dug it up. This, 82 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: by the way, all made sense to me as a kid. 83 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: You find prehistoric mosquitos with dinosaur blood still in them 84 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: that got caught in tree sap, you extract the blood 85 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: and thus dinosaur DNA. Then you take some other odds 86 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and ends from frog DNA blobbery blobbity blah YadA YadA yadda, 87 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and next thing you know, you can create dinosaurs which 88 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: grow up to be big dinosaurs. And now we can 89 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: control them, and we can put them on a random 90 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: island off the coast of Costa Rica, and we can 91 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: turn it into the biggest tourist attraction the world has 92 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: ever seen. There's gonna be nothing like it before or since. 93 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: All we need to do is bring in some scientists 94 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: and some paleontologists and some lawyers to sign off on 95 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: the park. So we bring him in here, and what 96 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: do you know they have put Do you remember when 97 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: you were watching Jurassic Park? And do you remember, because 98 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: I do. I was a kid. I was pulling for 99 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: the white bearded guy. I was pulling for him. He 100 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: sounded fun, he sounded cool, he sounded like he was 101 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: on my side. And then, as he put it, the 102 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: blood sucking lawyer comes in the room. And then you 103 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: got Sam Neil over here throwing a wet blanket on everything. 104 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: You got Ian Malcolm talking about life finding away and 105 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get that, And to be honest with you, 106 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't get half of it still, although it's entertaining. 107 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: But I remember when I was a kid and I 108 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: listened to doctor Grant and doctor Sadler, and you know, 109 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: the white bearded guy's all excited and they're all monotone. 110 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: You can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct. 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: What do you think is gonna happen? We need to 112 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: pump the brakes here. Well, that didn't sound fun. Six 113 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: or seven year old JP wasn't on board with that 114 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: at all. But you see, logic never sounds cool in 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: the face of a grandiose idea rationale and a measured 116 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: approach and principle and all that stuff. It never sounds 117 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: cool when you got a firework show going on. What 118 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: would you rather listen to? Would you rather listen to 119 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: someone talk about preservation and in integrity of this and that, 120 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: or would you rather watch the fireworks show? Well, of 121 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: course you'd rather watch the fireworks. And so a lot 122 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: of you are listening to these ideas about expanding a 123 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: playoff and you get so much more emphasis on this 124 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: conference championship, and you get so much more inclusion and 125 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: so much more of the country is invested and has 126 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity. It sounds great. I know it sounds great. 127 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: It's why you have to dig beneath the surface a 128 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: little bit, and you need to understand these people's motivation 129 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: is not your motivation. A lot of you out there 130 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: love college football just like me. We have differing opinions 131 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: of what's best for the sport. That's fine. As long 132 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: as you genuinely love college football. We can have a 133 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: conversation and disagree and still go to lunch afterwards. A 134 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of the folks pulling the levers here do not 135 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: love college football. They put on that blanket over their 136 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: face and they cut eye holes in it, and they 137 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: look at you and they're using that as a clever 138 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: disguise when in reality, these folks couldn't tell you the 139 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: mascot for Kansas State if their life depended on it. 140 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: They don't care about the fabric of college football. They 141 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: don't care about anything other than conveniently money. We talked 142 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: about this a month. We are the homeowners association here. Okay, 143 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: it's ours, it's our sport, it's our product. And you're 144 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: letting tourists come in and you're letting them completely redevelop 145 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: your neighborhood. And guess what they're gonna do afterwards. They're 146 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: gonna leave. They're gonna move on to the next venture. 147 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: They're not here anymore. They're gonna take that blanket off. 148 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna take that mask off that they put on 149 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: to fool you, and they'll be gone. And then they'll 150 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: be back later on and they'll further screw up the sport. 151 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: What you thought was gonna be just a little bit 152 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: of a change. We're just gonna tweak. You're not gonna 153 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: tweak anything. You're gonna overhaul the entire sport. You're gonna 154 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: turn it on its ear. And the regular season in 155 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: this sport, if you institute a double digit number of 156 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: playoff spots, will be unrecognizable from its prior form. You 157 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: think that sounds sensationalized, it is. I'm just reacting to 158 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: something sensational. A sensational response right now is directly in 159 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: proportion to the sensational proposal of a twelve team playoff. 160 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: But the reason why to conclude this before we get 161 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: into Q and A, I've had such a hard foot 162 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: in the ground on four teams and then no more. 163 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Hasha four and no more is because a blind man 164 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: can see this coming. If you've got any experience in life, 165 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: you understand they don't come to you initially and say 166 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna change everything about everything here. They come to 167 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: you under the auspices of, well, we just need to tweak, 168 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, we just need to hammer this out. We 169 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: need to nail that down, and you get on board 170 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: with it. You get on board because you remember that 171 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: one year where your team finished sixth in the country, 172 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: and hey, if we would have had this system, I 173 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: would have made the playoffs. Great, wonderful wave the pom pom. 174 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't stop there. There is no minor tweak. There 175 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: is no tear down the dam, but stop the water 176 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: two hundred yards downstream. It's a flood. It's inevitable. Once 177 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: you start that process, it doesn't stop. That's why it's 178 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: so imperative that some people, enough people hopefully put their 179 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: foot in the ground on stuff. I get so many 180 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: of you in my inbox who I appreciate the correspondence with. 181 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but you'll say things like, well, 182 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any harm in trying it out. No, 183 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: there is. There is because the alternative, isn't there. Typically, 184 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: when you say I'm gonna try something out, you're talking 185 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: about ordering something online from Amazon. I get a new 186 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: white T shirt. Oh it doesn't fit, I send it back. No, 187 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: in this example, you order the T shirt and then 188 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Amazon disappears. There is nowhere to send it back. It's 189 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: just yours. Now you own it. This stuff does not 190 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: go backwards. You don't expand these sorts of things. It's 191 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: no different than government. We talked about it before. You 192 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: don't expand something just to try it out a little 193 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: trial period here, and then we go back if we 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: don't like it. There is no going back. And so 195 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: if you're on my side of the fence on this, 196 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: it's why you have to fight so hard on the 197 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: front end. You know there is no back end, There 198 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: is no trial phase. It just is. It will only 199 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: get larger. The default setting will be that eight or 200 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: twelve or whatever it is is the new normal, and 201 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: then you can only go forward. I just want you 202 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: to think about this, and then I promise we are 203 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: on moving forward. I was on the phone last night 204 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: with a buddy who's big Michigan fan. Listens to the podcast. 205 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: I'll probably get a text or an emoji after he 206 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: listens to this, and we were talking about if Michigan 207 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: word or you know, rebuild and they were to be 208 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: a football power again, imagine going into that last weekend. 209 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: You can insert Alabama Auburn here if you want to. 210 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Imagine those teams being both highly rated and they go 211 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: into the final weekend of the year, which is rivalry 212 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: weekend for most of the sport. Imagine if you are 213 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: number three or four rated Michigan or Auburn and knowing 214 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: if you lose to Alabama or Ohio State, not only 215 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: are you still going to make the playoff, but you 216 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: don't even have to go play a conference championship game 217 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: in order to make the playoff. You still know your 218 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: profile is not going to be hurt by losing to 219 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: the number one or two team in the country, and 220 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: so you're still going to be in the playoff. It'll 221 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: hurt you seeding wise, Yeah, in an ideal world, you'd 222 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: love to be the higher seed, but now you don't 223 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: even have to risk the injury of going to play 224 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: in a conference title game, and then you're still going 225 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. You're going to get two or 226 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: three weeks to heal up, so you'll have your roster 227 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: as good as it'll be. Of Course, the postseason fourmat 228 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: favors the deeper rosters and the better teams, unlike the 229 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: regular season, which is your best shot at knocking the 230 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: bigger brand names off. Can you imagine the build up, 231 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: because you know what it is now. If you have 232 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: a highly rated versus highly rated matchup late in the year, 233 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: rivalry weekend, there's no safety net under it. Two teams 234 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: are going to walk the tight rope fifty floors above 235 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the cement. One's going to make it to the other side. 236 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: One is going to be street pizza. That's the beauty 237 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: of college football. That's what makes it must see TV. 238 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: You can be the dude who sits over in the 239 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: corner and brings up the one or two purely straw 240 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: man anecdotal examples of teams that didn't win their conference 241 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: still making the four team playoff. You can do that. 242 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: I guess my counter to you would be, all right, 243 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: well let's go back to two then, so I don't 244 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: even go down that road. But let's not get sidetracked here. 245 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: My point is, you know what it feels like if 246 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: you were to have number four versus number two Michigan, 247 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Number three versus number one Auburn Alabama. You 248 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: know what the ramifications are right now. You know that 249 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: for two weeks there would be build up for that game, 250 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: and you know you could not afford to be anywhere else. Now, 251 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: I want you to try and imagine a world where 252 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: you're going into what historically would be some of the 253 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: biggest games in your lifetime in those rivalry series, and 254 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden knowing both of these teams are 255 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: going to make playoff and the loser doesn't even have 256 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: to go to the conference title game, and we already 257 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: know ahead of time they're still going to be in 258 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: the playoff. You tell me that's college football. You tell 259 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: me that's college football, and you and I just defined 260 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the sport differently, And that's the end. I know it 261 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it, but I just paused recording to 262 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: go answer some Now. Well, really, when it boils down 263 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: to it, pure ignorance in the Twitter DMS. Even as 264 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I was recording, I was having to deal with some 265 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: of this. So look, we're gonna hit the reset button. 266 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Let me find the button. Hold on, all right, We're 267 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna pretend that sound is the reset button. All Right, 268 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: we're all in a good, happy mood. Now it's June, 269 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: we're less, bottles still popping, we are less than one 270 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: hundred days until kickoff. Ooosa, Okay, here we go. David 271 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,119 Speaker 1: has a question. David says nothing markets better than scarcity. 272 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Do you think Alabama's recruiting classes could actually get stronger 273 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: the closer Nick Saban gets to retirement? Now, David sent 274 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: this before it was announced that Nick Saban has extended 275 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: through twenty twenty eight. So what David is suggesting is, 276 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: could there be high school kids out there that know 277 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's the greatest of all time and he's only 278 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: got X number of years left? So I got to 279 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: go make it count while I can. I want to 280 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: be able to say I played for the best. I 281 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: think there could be some examples of that, David. I 282 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: don't think that would be the norm if it were 283 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: that Nick Saban's days were numbered and he only had 284 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: two or three years left, Max, I don't think that 285 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: that would precipitate a rush of commitments that wouldn't have 286 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: already happened. And it may even be the inverse. You 287 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: may have some guys who would have previously committed, who 288 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: were turned off by the idea that the head coach 289 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: that they commit to is not going to be there 290 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: by the time they leave. Having said that, I don't 291 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: think anybody in high school right now, junior class, senior class, 292 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be concerned about Nick Saban being there through 293 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: the duration of my college career. I think he's going 294 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: to be there unless help or something else gets in 295 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the way. I think he's going to be there. Davis. 296 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: Next up, I was wondering do high profile five star 297 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: recruits participate in these camps held it visits or is 298 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: it more for recruits trying to get offers. I ask 299 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: this because I hear most of the time people are 300 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: getting offers after doing drills and workouts the coaches want 301 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: them to do to try and impress. But with five 302 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: star recruits, are they just there to tour the campus 303 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: and talk to coaches? This is a case by case situation, Davis. 304 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: What he's talking about right now, especially as pertinent because 305 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you've got June, which means the dead period is over, 306 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: which means schools are having camps every day. You got 307 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: dozens and dozens and dozens of kids coming through. You'll 308 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: have hundreds before the end of the month for some 309 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of these schools, and they're having camps and you're able 310 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: to do some in person evaluation. Well, what Davis is saying, 311 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: and you're right in a lot of ways, is you 312 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: got some three star caliber guys out there who still 313 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: feel the need to prove their worth. They've been told 314 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: they have a conditional offer, and it's not an official term, 315 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: but in reality, here's how it works. If I'm a 316 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: three star wide receiver out of Bosher City, Louisiana, and 317 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: LSU likes me and they want me, but they really 318 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: want to verify with their own eyes, my measurables, my 319 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: ball skills, my top end speed, my route running. They'll say, 320 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: we're offering you conditional on you coming and working out 321 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: in our camp. So I had to baton rouge for 322 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: a wide receiver dB camp. I work out against some 323 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: other guys who are defensive backs in my class, maybe 324 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: some guys who are already on campus for LSU, and 325 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: so I validate a lot of what they believed then 326 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: they offer me. And that's very common Davis. But also 327 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: there are some five star kids out there who know 328 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: they already have an offer regardless, and they look at 329 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: it as something that doesn't make sense from a risk 330 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: rewards standpoint. They go and they already have the offer. 331 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: They don't have to work out. So yeah, in a 332 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: lot of cases, Davis, it is just about getting familiar 333 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: with the staff, touring the facilities, touring the campus. I 334 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: don't need to work out. I've already got an offer. 335 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: You know. God blessed me with such a mens ability 336 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: that I've put enough on tape that these dudes don't 337 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: need to see me work out. That does happen. But also, Davis, 338 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: there are some cases where guys have those five stars 339 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: and they already have the offer and they just want 340 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: to go compete anyway. Now, obviously those are the ones 341 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: that everyone wants because you don't have to worry ever 342 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: about competitive character there. And you see a guy who's 343 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: wanting to compete even though he has more to lose 344 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: than he has to gain at that point, but it 345 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter to him. So it's very much a 346 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: case by case situation. Lee is up next. Lee says, 347 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: what is the most under hyped Fleetwood mac song? I 348 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: think it's Tusk. Tusk is good if you like Tusk, 349 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: I would recommend you go to the nineteen ninety seven 350 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: live concert. I think it's called the Dance. They did 351 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: it in la I think they filmed it at the 352 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers studio, which is important caause the USC Marching 353 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: band actually came in and played Tusk with them. But 354 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Tusk is not my answer a good submission there. I'm 355 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: going to suggest that you go find a song called 356 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: family Man. It's a little bit different. It's not a 357 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: mainstream pop sounding song, but there are classical guitar solos 358 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: using an actual classical guitar in there that I think 359 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: is some of the best work Lindsay Buckingham every day. 360 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to waste a lot of time. 361 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I know all of you aren't fans of Fleetwood Mac 362 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: and it's a character flaw in you that you need 363 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: to maybe square just with yourself in the mirror one night. 364 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: But go listen to a song called family Man. We'll 365 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: leave that there. Moving on, Spencer says, hypothetical here, you 366 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: can locate Pate State University in any conference you want. 367 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: You have all the necessary off field pieces to compete 368 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: with anyone. Which conference are you joining? At the big 369 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: ten by ten miles the Big Ten, Ohio State is 370 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: Pate State. If you are presenting my product accurately, and 371 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: it sounds like you are Spencer, Ohio State is what 372 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Peate State would be. For those of you unfamiliar, Pate 373 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: State is our hypothetical imaginary university that is exclusive to 374 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: the show. We have a yet to be named mascot 375 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm working on that. There are some hurdles to overcome. 376 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Sounds ridiculous, but there are, and so Pate State filling 377 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: the blank thus unnamed mascot Pate State University. I'd put 378 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: us in the Big Ten, the Big Ten. I'm going 379 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to make more money than any other conference in TV 380 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: negotiated deals. And I also look at it across the 381 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: landscape and I'm not watered down because I exist in 382 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: and of myself. I'm like Ohio State. Ohio State is 383 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: not dragged down by any given year the ineptitude of 384 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: some other teams and some other programs or even some 385 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: other administrators in their conference. Even this last year, when 386 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: the powers that be in some cases behind the scenes 387 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: wanted to derail the Big Ten season, Look at what 388 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State did. You had an email dump last week 389 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: that kind of confirmed what we all suspected. Ohio State 390 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: was like an SEC program up there. They were looking 391 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: around saying, are you insane? What are you? Are you 392 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: high on bath salts? We're not canceling our season. Do 393 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: what it takes, man, sack up. Let's get this season 394 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: on the road. And that's how Pate State would be. 395 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I'd have all the proper investment, I'd have all the 396 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: best facilities, and it wouldn't matter where I resided. It 397 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't matter where my pinpoint on a map is. I'd 398 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: be just as good. I'd be able to compete with Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma. 399 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: I would be like that. And so if I were 400 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: to put myself in the most opportune position, you could 401 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: say the ACC, I'd be Clemson. You can say the 402 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Big Ten, I'd be Ohio State. I'd pick one of 403 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: those two. But I go with the Big Ten because 404 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: that's just where the biggest paycheck is. At the end 405 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: of the day, you get an even bigger paycheck in 406 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: the Big Ten right now than you do in the SEC. 407 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: I want you to think about that. So park Pate 408 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: State right there in the Big Ten. Now we're going 409 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: to get some pushback, because I don't think our friends 410 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: in State College Pennsylvania are going to be too pleased 411 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: with a Pate State rolling in here when Penn State 412 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: already exists. So certainly we're going to have to pronounce 413 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: the names of the teams very slowly. But Peate State 414 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: Penn State would be musty TV. I wear a white 415 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: T shirt, you guys wear a white T shirt. I 416 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: think would have to probably have paper rock scisuors right 417 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: there at midfield to see who has to wear the 418 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: solid colors any given time that we visit each other. 419 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: But Peate State's coming to the Big ten, I'll be 420 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: happy to reside on the other side. I'll go to 421 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: the other division. Whatever you guys are calling that this year, 422 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: leaders Legends, East, West, North, South, Spaghetti Tomato, I don't 423 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: know what, but I'll go over there. You know, Ben 424 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: actually had another question, kind of tie it into this. 425 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, let's take a break when we 426 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: come back. I'll tie Ben's question in because it's another 427 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: peyt State question, but it's all about coaching. We'll do 428 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: it when we come back. So Ben tee to Sup 429 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: right here. He didn't plan it this way as usual. 430 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: You guys write the show way better than I could. 431 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: Ben says, if you had to fill the head coaching 432 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: job at pet State and you could only hire one 433 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: of the new coaches in the SEC, who would get 434 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: the job. PS. I recently got married and my wife 435 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: and I listened to Late Kick on the way back 436 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: from our honeymoon. I think she was a big fan. 437 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: You know what. That gives me a reminder, So let 438 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: me pause recording right quick. Although it's not going to 439 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: sound like I did it to you all right. See 440 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: when I said five minutes went by just like that, 441 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: and it sounds like I never left. This reminds me 442 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: of one of the podcast reviews that I got on 443 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: Apple the other day. Reminder five star reviews pour him in. 444 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: We're about to hit fifteen hundred, so we're doing really 445 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: good there, but we could always do better. So the 446 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: person known only as mud Duck one four seven submitted 447 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: this the other day JP. He is a one man 448 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: wrecking crew in the world of college football podcast. It 449 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: actually sounds like a burner account, but I swear to 450 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: you I did not write this. He continues. I'm currently 451 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: in route to my honeymoon and I have not listened 452 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: all weeks so I can have a marathon of episodes 453 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: on the flight to Cankun. My new wife has been 454 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: quite surprised to find out it's a party of three myself, 455 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: her and Josh Pate. Keep up the good work, Go Gators, 456 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: God bless again. I want to stress these people are 457 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: not related to me. They are not me posting under 458 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: some false alias burner account. This is just authentic. It's 459 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: the real deal. So I appreciate it. Love it. The 460 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: testimonials I love, especially when you're involving late kick in 461 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: the honeymoon process. Feel free to get as detailed as 462 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: you want. I'll edit it for public consumption. I'm cool 463 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: with it. I'll take all those submissions. So back to 464 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: the question, which, to be honest with you, I have 465 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: to reread because I already forget what the context was. Okay, 466 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: so we're hiring a head coach at Pate State from 467 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: the new head coaches in the SEC. I got to 468 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: cheat here because there's a second year head coach I 469 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: want to hire. I want to bring in Sam Pittman. 470 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman really proved himself to me last year. Got 471 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: to keep proving himself. That's the way that this world works. 472 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: But when he came in, there was every reason for 473 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: them to falter. I mean every single reason in the 474 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: world for Arkansas to stumble. They didn't have any kind 475 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: of personnel recruited there the likes of which you would 476 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: think Sam Pittman would need to play his brand of football, 477 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: and yet they still were able to be competitive. They 478 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: had games ripped from them last year, and I would 479 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: argue still had a successful season. But more so than 480 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: any of that, what contributed to that was understanding the culture. 481 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: Arkansas understood who they are. That's why they didn't really 482 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: pay a whole lot of attention looking at articles written 483 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: at this website or that website, or looking at coaching 484 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: hot boards. They knew who they were. They know who 485 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: the coaches are through the interview process and already having familiarity, 486 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: and then they just find via the Venn diagram process, 487 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: where does our culture and our needs as Arkansas overlap 488 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: with what those coaches are. And Sam Pittman and Arkansas 489 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: they were a perfect marriage. Well. The reason I mentioned 490 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: this is because I think Peate State has a lot 491 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: of Arkansas in it, so I want to bring in 492 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: a guy like Sam Pittman. He never has to fake it. 493 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman does not have to pretend to be Arkansas. 494 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: In this case, Sam Pittman doesn't have to pretend to 495 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: be anything other than he is. His natural self sells. 496 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: It sells to media, but it also sells to your 497 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: fan base, your donors. But most importantly, it sells to prospects. 498 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: They know they're not getting sold to. It's not some 499 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: used car salesman coming in pretending to be this, and 500 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: then as soon as he steps out of your front door, 501 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: he goes and tries to throw up all the cooking 502 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: of your mom he just had to eat, and he 503 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: goes because he didn't want to breathe the air in 504 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: that home, and he had ready to go pick up 505 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: a twelve dollars fifty cent bagel at Starbucks on the 506 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: way back to the private plane. That's not Sam Pittman. 507 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: That's just not him. So he would fit at Pate State. 508 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: That's the kind of coach I would want. And I 509 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: know I kind of cheated there because he's not technically new, 510 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: but he is kind of still new, So we're just 511 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to roll with it. Next up is DeShawn. 512 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: He said, what are some future power five conference realignments 513 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: that you'd like to see and or if you could 514 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: magically decide them, what would you like to see happen. Personally, 515 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Missouri, Texas, A and M, Colorado, 516 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: and Nebraska back in the Big twelve Boomer sooner. I 517 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: could certainly go for someone like Missouri just being parked 518 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: in a place that's more geographically advantageous for him. I 519 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: think West Virginia has no business being in a place 520 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: where their closest road game is a thousand miles away, 521 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: So I would definitely find a way to fit West 522 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Virginia in the ACC. Maybe I also, even within the SEC, 523 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: think it's ludicrous that Missouri, I want to say, I'm 524 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: trying to picture the map in my mind. Obviously, Arkansas, Missouri, 525 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M are the westernmost teams in 526 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the SEC, and yet one of those teams is in 527 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: the east. Do you know how much further east Auburn 528 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: University is than University of Missouri, and yet Auburn's in 529 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: the west and Missouri is in the east. So I 530 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: would redo that Auburn folks have long pushed for that. 531 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: By the way, there's been a significant push there to 532 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: situate themselves in the East, and they look at Missouri 533 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: and say, here's your fix. We just did it for you. 534 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: You don't even have to hire an exploratory committee. But 535 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: I think to go back to a point we've made before, 536 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: or to Shawan the unicorn here the white whale that 537 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: we could never get accomplished, but I would still love 538 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: to talk about anyway since it's June, is relegation. I 539 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: think one of the things that European soccer in soccer 540 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: oversees what they get right is relegation, and it naturally 541 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: takes care of a lot of the problems, and it 542 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: would take care of a lot of the problems we 543 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: have in this sport. Our problem is not the size 544 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: of the playoff. It never has been. It only will 545 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: be if you expand it. Our problem right now is 546 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: not that all of these top heavy natures of conferences. 547 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: It's just because you don't have enough good football. Good 548 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: football is not reserved only for folks in Tuscaloosa or 549 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: Clemson or Columbus or Norman or South Bend. That's not 550 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: the way it is. There's nothing inherent about the system 551 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: that only allows them to play good football. So a 552 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: lot of you out there. You complain about how most 553 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: of these conferences are garbage. I agree with you. You 554 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: also complain that the top of the G five they're 555 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: really good, they're really innovative, but they can't get their 556 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: foot in their door and they can't get a spot 557 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: in the playoff. I also agree with you. Well, here's 558 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the solution. The solution not to expand the playoff to 559 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: allow the G five m they don't play good enough 560 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: conference schedules right now. But don't worry u CFN. They're 561 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: mowing your yard in Orlando. Don't yell at the phone 562 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: just yet, because I got a solution for you. You guys 563 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: working out at the gym, listening in Cincinnati, driving down 564 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: the interstate in Houston right now, don't worry. I got 565 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: a solution for you. It's never going to happen, but 566 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: it's not going to be because of me that it doesn't happen. 567 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Relegation is the answer. It is. What is relegation may 568 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: some of you may not know what this is. What 569 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: relegation is is in any given year, you shave the 570 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: worst performing teams in this case out. In other words, 571 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: the way we would structure it in college is you 572 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: have partner conferences. So take a P five and a 573 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: G five. Let's say the PAC twelve has at the 574 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: power five level the Mountain West attached to it as 575 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: it's G five partner. Let's say the SEC and the 576 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: AAC are attached at the hip as a P five 577 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: G five partnership. Well, the way this works is, at 578 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: the end of the twenty twenty one season, we take 579 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: the worst performing team in the SEC, we drop them 580 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: down to the G five for next year, and then 581 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: we raise the best performing team in AAC up to 582 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: the SEC. And you do it every single year. And 583 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: so I want you to think about this. Think about 584 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: not only how it raises the level of competition, because 585 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: you know that there are serious ramifications for ineptitude. Imagine 586 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, what we just did to manufacture interest, 587 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: because all of you want more interests late in the year, right, 588 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: you want more meaningful games. All of a sudden, we're 589 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: watching Vanderbilt versus South Carolina late in the year. Otherwise 590 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: we never would have cared about it. But we're about 591 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: to see which team may get sent down, and we're 592 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: watching Central Florida and we may have already been watching 593 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: that game, But certainly more eyeballs will be on those 594 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: games because we're about to see one team is about 595 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: to join us. One of these teams, it's going to 596 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: be Cincinnati or Tulsa or whoever, they're about to raise 597 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: themselves up to our level. And finally, you know, let's 598 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: say it's Central Florida. Instead of playing this perceived inferior 599 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: schedule and just touting themselves as being undefeated and us 600 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: sitting here crowing about the fact that they wouldn't be 601 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: undefeated if they they played in this conference. We're going 602 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: to find out how they're doing this conference next year. 603 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: They're going to find out how they're doing this conference 604 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: next year. You know what also happens, though, for every 605 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: year that Central Florida or Houston or whoever it would 606 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: be resides in the SEC, they get that cut of 607 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: the SEC revenue pie. And every year that whoever it 608 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: is that drops down from the Pac twelve or the 609 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Big twelve or the SEC, every year they drop down, 610 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 1: they lose that huge cut. So I'll tell you what. 611 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: You guys listen to these ridiculous proposals about playoff expansion 612 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: all the time. I want you to tell me if 613 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: you can look me in the eye and you can 614 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: tell me that an expanded playoff is going to make 615 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: the sport more healthy than a relegation model would. Again, 616 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: you and I just look at the sport totally differently, 617 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think that there is any amount of 618 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: debate week long, month long, year long that would change 619 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: either person's perspective at that point. Relegation would be great. 620 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: I'm for relegation in every aspect of life, and so 621 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm certainly for it in college football. And with that, 622 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: I think we're done for this morning. A quick reminder, 623 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: just a favor. 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