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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Von

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Speaker 1: Bressler with us. Fun the communication that gets to people

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Speaker 1: is at all technical. How do they do it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A lot of it comes through electronic devices. This was

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Speaker 1: something that people noted as soon as the telegraph and

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Speaker 1: the telephone were invented, that they were they were getting

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Speaker 1: they were getting strange signals from beyond of you know,

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Speaker 1: anonymous or hardly believable sources. Uh, we're coming through. And

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Speaker 1: in some cases, in the case of the early phone,

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Speaker 1: for instance, um, there were there were cases of people

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Speaker 1: getting calls from phones that were disconnected, very often loved

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Speaker 1: ones calling, you know, calling you. And when the phone

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Speaker 1: was first invented, and we're looking at the nineteen ten

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, right, they were like a lot of little

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Speaker 1: booklets how to use spirit phones or ghost phones. And

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Speaker 1: this was a real thing, you know. And it wasn't

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Speaker 1: just a lot of wackos like Von out there talking

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Speaker 1: like this. They were actually taking them to church and

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Speaker 1: they were actually talking as the other dead relatives. Apparently

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of stories like this. There were

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Speaker 1: little booklets and in little articles about all the people

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Speaker 1: that had spoken to their dead relatives. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: think about it, you know a lot of people on

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Speaker 1: our audience have personally or known someone who have had

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Speaker 1: this sort of experience where a deceased dear friend or

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Speaker 1: or a close relative will come and visit shortly after dying,

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Speaker 1: and they'll appear to you like in a dream, or

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Speaker 1: they'll appear to you like in a vision, or maybe

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Speaker 1: you'll be daydreaming, or you just in your head see

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Speaker 1: them and they're talking to you, usually you know, telepathically,

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Speaker 1: they're saying they're saying goodbye. You know, this is a

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Speaker 1: very common thing, happens with pets who pass on, very common,

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Speaker 1: very common. So in the early days of phones, they

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Speaker 1: were getting these things. In fact, Alexander Graham, Bell and

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Speaker 1: even Um, even even Einstein, we're thinking about how to

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Speaker 1: how to you know, create phones it would would talk

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Speaker 1: to the dead. People were really serious about this. Whether

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Speaker 1: the phone was actually hooked up to any kind of

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Speaker 1: a power source, it seemed to make no difference. So

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Speaker 1: we we know that people have long been getting messages

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Speaker 1: like that through the radio or their television ham radios

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Speaker 1: that are disconnected to have stories like that m A

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Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen David Wilson, a London telegraph operator, was getting messages,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously from beyond because it was a down line,

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Speaker 1: but he was he was getting a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of coming got me through, Yes.

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Speaker 1: And and the Beatles they went into the studio after

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Speaker 1: John Lennon died and they were going to record something together,

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Speaker 1: the three surviving Beatles at that time, and they recorded Freezer,

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Speaker 1: Bird and m and right afterwards, and they both, you know,

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Speaker 1: all three noted and it feels like John is here,

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Speaker 1: you know, well they just died. They was, you know,

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Speaker 1: in their memory and in their thoughts. But after they

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Speaker 1: were through making the recording, they thought, what sounded like

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Speaker 1: John Lennon saying something like, um, good on you boys,

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Speaker 1: sounds good something like that. He was some some comment

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Speaker 1: on what they just recorded, and they ran over to

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Speaker 1: the speaker where they heard his voice. They all heard it,

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Speaker 1: and the speaker was disconnected. So it seems to not

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Speaker 1: matter at all. And I guess the point is that

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Speaker 1: that the spirits of whatever sort you you want to

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Speaker 1: think of, the spirits like to communicate on electronic devices.

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Speaker 1: But Moreover, I would suggest that they use these devices

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Speaker 1: because we expect these devices to deliver messages. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna sit in front of the radio. We're gonna sit

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Speaker 1: in front of the phone. You know, even if even

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Speaker 1: if your cell phone is dead, we're expecting it to ring,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and and and it doesn't really seem

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Speaker 1: to matter. A lot of these calls that come through, um,

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Speaker 1: they can't be the they're auditoriums sometimes well they're usually

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Speaker 1: auditory in the phone, but they cannot be traced as

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Speaker 1: to what was the number, you know, So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to even matter that at the other end, the

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Speaker 1: sender has a phone and either a robo call. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I always say, you know, a hands to the phone.

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Speaker 1: You never know, And a lot of people pick up

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Speaker 1: the poone and say, my gosh, who the heck is

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Speaker 1: calling you? This is such a strange call, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's somebody you know. Well, I'm going to ask you

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Speaker 1: a couple of stories that I'd like you to relay

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Speaker 1: to us. One includes the ham radio operator who died

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Speaker 1: by kept trying to contact his family. That's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. That's the story of Pumpkin. So This is MJ.

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Speaker 1: Karkuro in Schenectady, New York. Year was two thy fifteen

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Speaker 1: and in MJU she was thinking about her father, who

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Speaker 1: saying Hello, Pumpkin. Now that was only he called her

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Speaker 1: this wow, and when she was a little girl, and

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Speaker 1: she says, Dad, Dad, is that you? And he said yes.

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Speaker 1: He said are you all right? Are you all right

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Speaker 1: She said, well, well wait a minute, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: get my husband, and she goes downstairs. She wants someone

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Speaker 1: to collaborate. She actually really did hear this story. He

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Speaker 1: comes up in the attic and said Dad, Dad, and

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Speaker 1: he says hello, Pumpkin, and she goes through the same

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Speaker 1: stories and he says yes, yes, yes, yes, and afterwards

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Speaker 1: it goes Dad. She never hears from him again. He's

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Speaker 1: a kind of typical stories, you know, of loved ones

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Speaker 1: wanting to reach out and they'll be maybe do it once.

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Speaker 1: What about the guy who died in a train crash?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Charles Peck two thousand and eight. He's

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Speaker 1: in a train, train crash to end all train crashes,

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Speaker 1: the metro Liner. He's he's on the Metro Link and

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Speaker 1: it collides with the Union Pacific and um, his family,

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Speaker 1: Charles Peck's family knew he knew he was on the trade,

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Speaker 1: so they're worried about him. And then his son gets

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Speaker 1: these are not just landlines in his cell phone and

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Speaker 1: and it says Charles Charles Peck is a sender and

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Speaker 1: it's just like white noise, right, okay. So and that's

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Speaker 1: all he gets, you know. And so later on he

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Speaker 1: gets another call and it says Charles Peck, white noise.

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Speaker 1: And then other members of the family of Charles Peck

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Speaker 1: also get calls that identify the caller as Charles Peck

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Speaker 1: with no no message. Thirty five calls, thirty five five calls.

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Speaker 1: So the family of Charles Peck, they tell the people

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Speaker 1: Charles Beck. He's somewhere trapped and he's trying to call us.

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Speaker 1: found his body. When they found his body. The calls

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Speaker 1: his cell phone. That's amazing. That is something. How about

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Speaker 1: the family that kept getting hateful phone calls from a brother? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I knew the family, so he interviewed them. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: not a happy brother and sister duo. The brother dies,

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Speaker 1: he drives dies out of state from his sister, and

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Speaker 1: she starts getting these calls at home and they're on

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Speaker 1: her voicemail, right, and she's at work, and she comes

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Speaker 1: home and she listens to the voicemail and she says,

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Speaker 1: you and he's saying terrible things to her, hurtful things

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Speaker 1: that he's saying, calling her names that she hasn't heard

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Speaker 1: since they were little kids, you know, things that he

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Speaker 1: listen to this, and he plays the voicemail. He says,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? This sounds like your brother, But

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Speaker 1: your brother's dead. That can't be He died a couple

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Speaker 1: you can't identify the caller. He said, Oh, that's our uncle,

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Speaker 1: he says, But your uncle's dad said, yeah, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. Where do you get these calls? He said,

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Speaker 1: be right. He's dead. So it turns out that the

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Speaker 1: journal and so he he um actually makes uh. He

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Speaker 1: records a word for word with the message was on

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Speaker 1: people that heard it and what they thought. They all

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Speaker 1: seemed to think it was his brother in law. And

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know what to do with it. And then suddenly, mysteriously,

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Speaker 1: and and I question everybody who comes into the house,

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Speaker 1: did you erase the voicemail. Did you delete it? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: we no, no, nobody, nobody did that. Why would we

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Speaker 1: do that? So he the journalist husband, he contacts the

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Speaker 1: because you know, he'd recorded when they came through. And

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Speaker 1: they just need an attitude, I guess in his case,

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Speaker 1: he was very upset. Now, the last phone call they got,

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Speaker 1: they got like three. They're just clearing threes, that's my experience.

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Speaker 1: But the last one came when um he was cremated,

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Speaker 1: voicemail when they got home and she plays the message

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Speaker 1: And then that's the last call they got, you know.

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Speaker 1: But as they say, they all disappeared. All the message

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Speaker 1: just disappeared. What do you think those on the other

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Speaker 1: side von, what do they want? They they they they

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Speaker 1: obviously let me communicate with us. And so I always

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Speaker 1: tell people, you know, don't go looking for them, but

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Speaker 1: you know, be be open, be receptive if they want

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Speaker 1: to contact you, because it could be vital information. You know,

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Speaker 1: in this case, it was hurtful information, terrible, right, or

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Speaker 1: like the will is under this table or something, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or or it could be just I love you or

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking of you or hanging there. Do

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Speaker 1: they want closure? I think they want closure. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, these messages come through like telepathically that there'll

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Speaker 1: be like somebody on the other side of the world saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm trapped in the woods, help, you know,

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Speaker 1: urgently thinking I need help. And a loved one who's

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Speaker 1: very karmically you know, connected to you will pick up

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Speaker 1: on this because there is this magnetic connection we have

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Speaker 1: with with the dear loved ones, and and and in

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Speaker 1: siblings of course, and and in twins of course, but

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Speaker 1: but anyone who's close to you, and and so I

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Speaker 1: be receptive to these calls because they could be um,

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Speaker 1: life changing. Are the people who receive the calls? Are

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Speaker 1: they in shock? Are they excited? What's their reaction? Generally? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they really First of yeah, they're trying to think what

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Speaker 1: in the world that you know, this can't be what

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Speaker 1: I think it is, you know, And then they'll be

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll be in denial, you know that. I found

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Speaker 1: a lot of people I spoke with an interview. They

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Speaker 1: did they they couldn't believe what it was, but they

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Speaker 1: told me what it seemed like. And they said, well,

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Speaker 1: you try to make sense of it. Well, nobody can

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Speaker 1: make sense of it except that you know, there are

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Speaker 1: messages come coming to us that are are rather mysterious,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, that's it. I mean I've had them myself.

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Speaker 1: I've had strange phone calls, you know. I've talked to

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Speaker 1: people who've had had calls from loved ones who needed

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Speaker 1: they could have called them. Um. So it could be

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Speaker 1: it could be like that, or or it could be

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Speaker 1: someone reaching out to you from who knows where, you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Spirit communication can involve any any form of spirit. It

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Speaker 1: could be it could be angelic, it could be divine,

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Speaker 1: it could be otherworldly, it could be it could be

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Speaker 1: a dead relative, it could be anything prior to electronics. One.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the super elect community. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that the common denominator of the universe. This

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Speaker 1: is my guest, and I've written about this in terms

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Speaker 1: of time travel is is is electromagnetic energy. And I

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Speaker 1: think that I think this this is consciousness, is conscious energy,

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Speaker 1: this is intelligent energy. And I think this is this

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Speaker 1: is kind of the universal component, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a real fan of Einstein and in the field

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Speaker 1: the field theory, radiation field theory. I think that this

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Speaker 1: is what what what is inside of us. I think

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Speaker 1: it's what's in It is what drives electronically our devices

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Speaker 1: like our phones and our radio stations and so forth.

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