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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Free Agent Preview podcast. Look at

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Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor from the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back, Welcome back again to the Free Agent

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Speaker 2: Preview podcast here on the Colts Audio Network, Colts dot Com,

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Speaker 2: the Colts Mobile app, as well as we heard. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio,

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Speaker 2: joined by JJ Stangowitz and Casey Valie. And this is

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Speaker 2: our second free agency preview, putting a spotlight on some

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Speaker 2: key in house free agents this offseason. Earlier this week

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Speaker 2: we dove into Michael Pittman Junior and his free agency capsule.

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Speaker 2: Check that out now get on Colts dot com or

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Speaker 2: wherever you download your podcasts on the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: But today we're talking all things Gardner Minshew Minshew at

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Speaker 2: quarterback and of course Minshew and Pittman two of thirteen

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Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents for the Colts heading to March thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: the start of the new league year. Casey, whenever you

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Speaker 2: have a quarterback that started thirteen games for you made

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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl? Did some good things kept the Colts

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Speaker 2: in the playoff contention for most of the season. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to stop and we have to talk all

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Speaker 2: about it. My friend, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: I am good? Now you're spot on home with that.

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Speaker 3: It is a wild situation, though, when you think about

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Speaker 3: all of those numbers you just laid out, and the

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Speaker 3: other guy that's kind of on that quarterback depth chart,

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Speaker 3: So it is an interesting quarterback conversation.

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Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right, indeed, JJ doing all right.

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Speaker 4: I was just rocking up to that intro music. Be

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Speaker 4: totally awesome.

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Speaker 2: ACDC qualities about it.

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Speaker 4: That keep that bed throughout the whole podcast. That was great.

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Speaker 4: A little air guitar.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what you said for the first

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Speaker 2: thirty five seconds. Just play the music.

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Speaker 3: Oh you said my name? Okay, I'll start talking.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff right there. Boys, All right, here's the lead

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Speaker 2: up on mister Minshew of course, signed a one year

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Speaker 2: deal in free agency with the Colts last March, reuniting

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Speaker 2: with Shane Steichen, who was his all offensive coordinator for

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Speaker 2: two years in Philadelphia. Minshew played in seventeen games for

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Speaker 2: the Colts, as we said, started thirteen of them, threw

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Speaker 2: for over thirty three hundred yards, won a career high

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Speaker 2: seven games, fifteen touchdown passes, nine interceptions, was named an

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Speaker 2: alternate to the Pro Bowl. Started this Colts tenure competing

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Speaker 2: a knee injury, and a shoulder injury, Minshew received over

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Speaker 2: eighty percent of the team's reps at quarterback last season.

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Speaker 2: So the first question of the first jumping off point

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Speaker 2: be considered a starting quarterback by other teams? Because among

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Speaker 2: free agent quarterbacks he threw for the second most passing

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Speaker 4: The question becomes how many teams are going to need

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Speaker 4: steadied this Colts team throughout the season, made some plays

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Speaker 4: For the Colts, I think they would love to keep him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all great points there in casey perhaps we should

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Speaker 3: So it's it's all encompassing. So when JJ talks about

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Speaker 4: Remember remember the press conference he gave when Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 2: Came here to compete when I started to get the job,

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Speaker 4: That was the perfect way to go about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He came in here, competed his tail off in

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Speaker 2: even then, like you said, he didn't change his approach

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Speaker 2: he's got you know, he's got this laid back, kind

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Speaker 2: every day, because that's what Gardner Minshew did every single

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Speaker 2: day for the Indianapolis Colts. All Right, teams that are

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Speaker 2: based on everything you read, So, if Minshew finds it

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Speaker 2: free agency, what do you think his desire will be

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Speaker 3: You know, as a fan and as just an employee

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Speaker 3: in practice, I mean, he's essentially like a third coach

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Speaker 3: So I think that would help so much. And you

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Speaker 3: and I think arguably anybody would say that Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you're if you're Gardner Minshew and you're

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Speaker 4: evaluating your options for a backup role. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you know, obviously the colts have to pay for it.

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Speaker 4: You're you're not you know that that is a factor

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Speaker 4: you know, even this is maybe a little bit silly,

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Speaker 4: yes he talked about now i'my Shane Stikeen in there.

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Speaker 4: And I just think that that that relationship between those

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Speaker 4: kind of like almost a translator for Anthony in a way, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly who I thought of, was Chase Daniel,

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Speaker 2: I think his impact on the locker room and everybody

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Speaker 2: as we said, embrace Anthony Richardson, embraced his situation, fully

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Speaker 4: Well, the difference there in twenty twenty three to twenty

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Speaker 4: Look, it worked out great, it worked out great, but

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Speaker 4: He's gonna play good football. But if you're also looking

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Speaker 3: That that just such a good point that you brought

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Speaker 4: It's rare that a backup quarterback is going to take

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Speaker 4: having that Like, I mean, this year is a perfect

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a bus you want, you know, four.

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Speaker 4: And thirteen, five and twelve because you've got, you know,

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Speaker 4: That is tough to get over as opposed to going

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Speaker 4: into this year now at nine and eight, you feel

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Speaker 4: like you're building your ascending Ye, there's a big difference

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Speaker 2: Sure you have that, Yeah, big difference mindset wise. Good

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Speaker 2: stuff right there. That's everything you need to know on

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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew at the quarterback position in free agency, the

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Speaker 2: focus of today's Colts free agency preview podcast. Jay General

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Speaker 2: played the music for you coming out, rock out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna just inch up that music bed on our

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Speaker 2: way out here. Coming up later this week, our spotlight

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Speaker 2: on running back Zack Moss, who led the Colts in

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Speaker 2: Should be healthy, should be good to go for next season.

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean for mister Moss? Did the

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Speaker 2: Colts have enough room in the backfield for two studies

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Speaker 2: Taylor and Moss together. We'll discuss that and a lot

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Speaker 2: more the money. How much is too much of that position?

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Speaker 2: All of that being broken down later this week was

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Speaker 2: Zack Moss the focus of our free agency preview podcast.

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Speaker 2: But so far we've done Michael, We've done Gardner, Minshew,

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Speaker 2: and plenty more to come here throughout the course of

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Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks in the offseason. For JJ

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Speaker 2: Stangoviitz he loved the music. Casey Vallee, I'm Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 2: and we will do it again soon. Thanks for listening

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