Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2: In this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show,
Speaker 2: come on in. We'll talk to Chris Webber, Fab five
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer recap what we saw last night. It's
Speaker 2: one of those where you watch it and you go,
Speaker 2: I think I need to watch that again. The final
Speaker 2: three minutes. But the Pacers come back and shock to
Speaker 2: the Knicks. They've gotten used to this now when you
Speaker 2: think about it, staging a comeback of that magnitude on
Speaker 2: the road. Since nineteen ninety seven, there have been a
Speaker 2: total four comebacks from seven or more points down in
Speaker 2: the final fifty seconds in the postseason. This in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter overtime. The Pacers have three of the four
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety seven. Stat of the Day, stat of
Speaker 2: the Day, That past stat of the day, stat of
Speaker 2: the day, Here comes that what stat of the day?
Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton Stat of the Day brought to you by
Speaker 2: Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Tyree's
Speaker 2: Haliburton will get the headlines, and rightfully so with the
Speaker 2: shot that sent it into overtime. But Aaron Nee Smith
Speaker 2: is really the guy. This is the Nie Smith game.
Speaker 2: This is what it'll be remembering for Pacer fans if
Speaker 2: they go on to win. This is going to be
Speaker 2: the Knie Smith game because he had thirty he had
Speaker 2: six three pointers. He dominated in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 2: you're probably going, who is this guy and what is
Speaker 2: he doing hitting all those three pointers? It was Steph
Speaker 2: Curry like in the postseason. But we tend to overreact.
Speaker 2: I didn't overreact with Okac against Minnesota. I wasn't surprised
Speaker 2: with that outcome. I won't be surprised if the Pacers
Speaker 2: win this series. But I don't look at Game one
Speaker 2: as truly a true indicator of what's going to happen
Speaker 2: in the series. I mean, you can look winning games,
Speaker 2: losing games, getting blown out, but this one counts as
Speaker 2: one and a half losses. This one just feels like
Speaker 2: it's a little more now at least you're at home,
Speaker 2: but then you start to have that pressure of we
Speaker 2: got to win this game. Indiana is you know since January,
Speaker 2: I think they've lost a total of sixteen games. They
Speaker 2: might be forty two and sixteen. This is not a coincidence.
Speaker 2: This is habit forming. They have been a great team
Speaker 2: and they will run you. I mean they are aptly
Speaker 2: named the Pacers. They are going to run you. They're
Speaker 2: going to make you try to keep up with them,
Speaker 2: and it might be a war of attrition. Can the
Speaker 2: Knicks they're starting five, survive a team that can go
Speaker 2: nine deep? And that'll be the true test. With all
Speaker 2: of this, we say, good morning. If you're watching on Peacock,
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Speaker 3: Greatest warrior ever, Wilt Chamberlain, Rick Berry, Steph Curry or
Speaker 3: Dylan the graphics guy here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan cut off part of his thumb yesterday chopping
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Speaker 2: right final hour poll question? Did you just give that
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave you the options right now. Steph Curry
Speaker 3: has sixty percent of pot. However, Dylan is coming in
Speaker 3: with an impressive twenty six. He's currently beating Wilt Chamberlain
Speaker 3: and Rick Berry as the greatest second best Warrior of
Speaker 3: all time. That's a pretty good showing. God, admit it's
Speaker 3: a bad like he lost part of his thumb. That's gross.
Speaker 2: Now, that would have been reason enough. He said he
Speaker 2: was gonna come in today, but hashtag warrior.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's not even like complaining about it or anything.
Speaker 2: He's just like totally fine. I think he's proud of it. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I lost a little bit of my thumb.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna eat the
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Speaker 2: be Friday Night Oilers Stars Friday Night. I know. The
Speaker 2: only time Leon dry Sidel's name comes up usually with
Speaker 2: the play of the day in the postseason. And then
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky said that the Oilers had the two of
Speaker 2: the three best players in the National Hockey League with
Speaker 2: Connor McDavid and Leon dry Sidle yesterday. What's Gretzky no
Speaker 2: Saturday Dodgers at the Mets is one Soto? Is he
Speaker 2: is he kind of sulking? Is he sad? I keep
Speaker 2: seeing these articles that he's not happy with the Mets, yes,
Speaker 2: and questions.
Speaker 6: About his hustling to first base and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He's not giving up, he's moping or something. I don't know,
Speaker 2: and I don't know. Seven hundred million just can't keep
Speaker 2: you happy.
Speaker 6: But living paycheck to paycheck, it's got to be a
Speaker 6: tough life.
Speaker 2: Grass is always greener.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to play for the Yankees. I love that,
Speaker 2: Like I just I don't.
Speaker 3: I think I'm making it up at this point, but
Speaker 3: I always imagine Wan Soda standing with a bat in
Speaker 3: his hand, resting on his shoulder, like, so.
Speaker 2: Where do you want to play that year? Whoever's got
Speaker 2: the most money? Yeah, touch an, That's all it is.
Speaker 2: That's basically what it was. Whoever's opening up the bank account.
Speaker 2: If Scott Morris is your agent, you're playing for the
Speaker 2: highest bidder, not where you might be happiest, but for
Speaker 2: the highest bidder. Yes, Marvin, I can't believe twenty years
Speaker 2: ago we were like two hundred fifty two million dollars
Speaker 2: for ten years. That's crazy.
Speaker 5: A rod.
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Speaker 2: as well, Rick and Coral Springs. Hi, Rick, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 7: Hey Dan? First time caller, longtime listener. Loved the show
Speaker 7: six foot used to be two of four, Now down
Speaker 7: the one eighty eighth, feeling good. Just wanted to bring
Speaker 7: up something that's been bugging me about Jason Kelsey and
Speaker 7: the toush puss. He used to Stan of the podcast
Speaker 7: that he hated to play, didn't like being at the
Speaker 7: bottom of the pile, and now all of a sudden he's
Speaker 7: the face of it. So wanted to ask you. I'm
Speaker 7: wondering exactly he said that made the team shift. He
Speaker 7: said he never got Did he say he never got hurt?
Speaker 7: That's safer than it looks. But if he hated it,
Speaker 7: then clearly something about it made him feel uncomfortable. Just
Speaker 7: curious where that shift came from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, unless it was the owner saying
Speaker 2: to Jason Kelcey, you're retired, We're still playing. We still
Speaker 2: have a really good offensive line and a quarterback who's
Speaker 2: really good at this. We need you to help us.
Speaker 2: We need you to be a lobbyist. Let's go to
Speaker 2: the owner's meetings, and we want you to be the
Speaker 2: spokes person for the touchbush. But yes, he has said,
Speaker 2: and once again, I truly believe the center is the
Speaker 2: most vulnerable to injuries in this situation. The touch bush
Speaker 2: it survived. I don't think it survives next year. You
Speaker 2: need two more votes and then they'll get rid of it.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, the Eagles will continue. You know,
Speaker 2: if I'm the Eagles, you can run different variations off
Speaker 2: of this. You know, I could line up Saquon Barkley
Speaker 2: out wide or Dallas Goddard outwall. I mean, I could
Speaker 2: do a lot of different things off of this. If
Speaker 2: you think that we're going to be one dimensional, although
Speaker 2: you're doing something great, don't mess with it. But it
Speaker 2: felt like they were trying to do a couple of
Speaker 2: different variations off of this formation last year. Trey in
Speaker 2: Ocean Springs, Hi, Tray, Hey, Trey, can't hear you? Trey,
Speaker 2: try again? Brian in Tampa, Hi, Brian wents On your
Speaker 2: mind today.
Speaker 8: Good morning Dana and the Milfords Man Cave Ernest Brian
Speaker 8: Gregory Junior the third five ten, two fifteen this morning.
Speaker 8: So I have the solution to the toush push is.
Speaker 8: Having played through college, people don't know what a train
Speaker 8: wreck the trenches are. I was never in there, thank god,
Speaker 8: But I say they change the rules the defense. The
Speaker 8: linebackers can walk up on any offensive play, field goal,
Speaker 8: extra point, toushpush, run play and shove the nose guard
Speaker 8: or the d tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to do that because it's a
Speaker 2: helpless you know, that center is not ready to engage
Speaker 2: with you. They won't allow that. You know, they're trying
Speaker 2: to cut down on injuries. They don't want something blatant
Speaker 2: like that. If somebody gets hurt at the bottom of
Speaker 2: a pile on a toush push, maybe maybe you know,
Speaker 2: that'll get people's attention. I just don't think it's going away,
Speaker 2: the fact that, I mean, you almost ad it, and
Speaker 2: I think they thought they had it. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if Kelsey going in there and the Eagles, you know, saying,
Speaker 2: you know, why are you penalizing us? And really that's
Speaker 2: what it sounds like you're penalizing one team. I'm okay
Speaker 2: with it. Do I like to watch it? Not really?
Speaker 2: But they're beating everybody else at something that everybody else
Speaker 2: can do. I don't have a problem with that. It'd
Speaker 2: be like if you say, hey, Mahomes can't throw to
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. That's not fair. He's too fast. Can you
Speaker 2: can you take you know, put put restrict plates on him?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 2: The Patriots out smart people. I have no problem with this.
Speaker 2: Everybody can do this. They do it better than everybody else.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Brian John in Minnesota, Hi, John, WIT's on
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 1: Dad?
Speaker 9: I call all the time. I was going to tell
Speaker 9: you have one of the better lines in cinematic history,
Speaker 9: and that's my boy. Would you say you smell that?
Speaker 9: I smell ratings you're talking to Donning Berger. My questioned
Speaker 9: what ratings are going to be the best for the final?
Speaker 9: But what does the NBA of the business want to
Speaker 9: see for the two final teams?
Speaker 2: They want to see the Knicks and Okac. I think
Speaker 2: you would want to have the MVP, and you want
Speaker 2: to have the New York audience. You want to have
Speaker 2: everything that goes on with them, and people will get
Speaker 2: caught up with if it's Indiana and okac, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it'll be the end of the NBA. Get ready for that.
Speaker 2: I just watch. If you don't, that's that's up to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Stan, there is a It's not just because
Speaker 3: we're in that scene. I think, however, I think that
Speaker 3: there is a scene in Uh, That's My Boy where
Speaker 3: one of the characters craps his pants and it is
Speaker 3: one of the in the moment when we were recording it,
Speaker 3: we were all laughing out loud at how funny it was.
Speaker 3: And then when you watch it back edited together in
Speaker 3: the movie, it's ten times funnier. It's one of the
Speaker 3: funniest scenes I've ever seen in an Adam Sandler movie.
Speaker 2: And yes, we are in it.
Speaker 3: I get that I'm biased by it, but damn is.
Speaker 2: That funny Andy Samberg, Andy Samberg, he craps his pants
Speaker 2: and it is so funny just how fast that scene
Speaker 2: moves and all of the jokes in it.
Speaker 3: Damn that it really really really makes me laugh.
Speaker 2: And I have recorded all my lines for Happy Gilmore too,
Speaker 2: and like a lot of lines, I just don't know
Speaker 2: how many are going to make it in the movie,
Speaker 2: and how many are going to be with me on
Speaker 2: camera or just my line where they show Happy Gilmore
Speaker 2: playing golf. I'm gonna guess probably most of them will
Speaker 2: be just my voice underneath voice of yeah yes, but
Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm fine with it. I just want the
Speaker 2: movie to be great because the build up has been
Speaker 2: almost impossible to live up to the hype. That's true.
Speaker 2: You know Michael Boublay Boobs, who is on the voice, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the famous singer. He sends me a text the other
Speaker 2: day he did, and he goes, hey, I saw Happy
Speaker 2: Gilmore too. You were awesome. I love the movie, Boobs. Dude,
Speaker 2: that's great. I know that. Yeah. So Michael Boubley sent
Speaker 2: me a note he got to see the movie. I
Speaker 2: am a question, why did you get to see it?
Speaker 2: And I haven't. I did not, And I'm very careful
Speaker 2: with saying that to Sandler. You know, I just I'm
Speaker 2: very you know, appreciative that I get to be put
Speaker 2: in these movies. You know, I don't want to be like,
Speaker 2: can you can I have a love interest? Can I
Speaker 2: get killed in one of your movies or something? You know,
Speaker 2: got to be careful with your ask, was Sandman, because
Speaker 2: he's very generous, very generous. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: I don't want to go past the boundary here.
Speaker 3: That that generosity light, that generosity sun, when it has
Speaker 3: shone on you, is just so warm and inviting. And
Speaker 3: then when it is turned off, it is so cold,
Speaker 3: very very cold. It is so cold, very cold.
Speaker 2: But when that light is on you, when that sun
Speaker 2: is on.
Speaker 3: You, it's like, hey, boys, you want to go to dinner.
Speaker 3: We got a movie for you. You want to fly on you?
Speaker 2: You want to do that?
Speaker 3: Man, that is great? And then it turns off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: remember how warm we used to be in that sun?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. But he did that movie or those movies
Speaker 2: with Jennifer Aniston where they're in Europe, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe sparks can fly on the set with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston. I could be in the movie. And I
Speaker 2: said to Sandman, I said, oh, I see where you're
Speaker 2: going to do a movie with Adam Sandler. He goes, Danny, Danny,
Speaker 2: this is Aniston's movie, not mine. His way of saying,
Speaker 2: you're not in this movie. But that had been nice,
Speaker 2: you know, being in Spain. All of a sudden, quiet night,
Speaker 2: she's strolling about. I walk up to her and I
Speaker 2: go Hi. She yells out police in Spanish. Hi, I'm
Speaker 2: the sports guy. Remember me? No is the sports guy?
Speaker 2: Well that's how Sailor introduced me. Just to Aniston. Uh,
Speaker 2: this is Danny. He's a sports guy. And she goes,
Speaker 2: what is Why did they call you the sports guy?
Speaker 2: I said, I'm a good sport so have funds, good
Speaker 2: quite athletic. Right to be honest with you, I'm sporting
Speaker 2: good looks right now? Don't you think? Whoa?
Speaker 10: Hi?
Speaker 2: Don't drown in these blue eyes. All right, let me
Speaker 2: take a break. AnyWho any Chris Weber is going to
Speaker 2: join us. Coming up, We'll take a break. We're back
Speaker 2: after this on the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: So the big story is what happened at the garden
Speaker 2: last night in the final three minutes, and then you
Speaker 2: also had overtime as well. Tyrese Halliburton thought he hit
Speaker 2: a game winner in regulation, it was only a two,
Speaker 2: and he talked about the choke gesture that he gave
Speaker 2: to the crowd.
Speaker 4: I've seen that winning Time Doc probably like fifty times
Speaker 4: growing up, so I know that they didn't win the series,
Speaker 4: so I would not like to repeat that, but you know,
Speaker 4: I think that's just a historic moment, and that was
Speaker 4: obviously more him versus Fike, kind of the one on one,
Speaker 4: and that just felt like there was to everybody, but
Speaker 4: to him too. I want to I want him to
Speaker 4: see more than anything. But I think it is really
Speaker 4: cool to continue to, you know, make my own history
Speaker 4: in this group, to make our own history, also showing
Speaker 4: you know, respect and love to the ones that came before.
Speaker 5: So definitely a special moment. And yes, I'm all't.
Speaker 2: Forget Tyrese Haliburton, not overrated Chris Webber, Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: joining us on the program. See web How does that happen?
Speaker 2: You're up fourteen at home, three minutes to go.
Speaker 5: It happens when you have a really special team.
Speaker 10: You know, first of all Haliburton, you look what he did,
Speaker 10: and the Smith, all the other guys. But please, let's
Speaker 10: not forget coach Carlisle. You know, he's he's a he's
Speaker 10: a great coach and he's coached guys like Jay Kidd.
Speaker 5: He's coached against the greatest players.
Speaker 10: He's played with the Celtics, by the way, so he
Speaker 10: knows a little bit about offense. And to me, it
Speaker 10: was just wearing you down. Some teams we give a
Speaker 10: lot of credit for wearing you down with their defense,
Speaker 10: and I played on teams, whether Sacramento and others, where
Speaker 10: we wore you down with our offense as well. And
Speaker 10: that means just keeping your foot on the pedal, never
Speaker 10: looking up, and trusting your players and you know those
Speaker 10: last few minutes. I mean, wow, these are some of
Speaker 10: the most exciting games I've seen a long time. So
Speaker 10: it's great to be a fan and watch all the
Speaker 10: excellences going on.
Speaker 2: Why is it different playing in the Garden than any
Speaker 2: other place, Well, I would.
Speaker 10: Say the Garden and old La, Old La because you
Speaker 10: had stars like Jack and others that were there and
Speaker 10: you would see. But I think it's because it's not
Speaker 10: just about new stars. I think it's about the fact
Speaker 10: that because those arenas are so old, you know Kareem
Speaker 10: played there or you know you know that, I don't
Speaker 10: know Willie Allen or someone else was at those games,
Speaker 10: and so as a player, you come in saying, you know,
Speaker 10: I better give my best performance because this is where
Speaker 10: the best performers are. How many times do you get
Speaker 10: to perform in front of your heroes? And so for me,
Speaker 10: New York was always special. And you know, if I
Speaker 10: could send out a PBA alert because New York is
Speaker 10: so cocky.
Speaker 5: I have a very close friend. His name is Has.
Speaker 5: I won't give his.
Speaker 10: Full government name, but anyone in New York please look
Speaker 10: out for High and just make sure you watch over
Speaker 10: him because he was hitting me with being bong and
Speaker 10: all this other stuff. And I haven't heard from him
Speaker 10: in about sixteen hours, so please look out for my
Speaker 10: man hous. But it's so much fun, and part of
Speaker 10: that too, is sending those crowds home quiet. It's no
Speaker 10: better feeling than any arena, but you know LA and
Speaker 10: New York, when you do it, you know you feel
Speaker 10: a little extra special.
Speaker 2: Okay, but did you ever have conversations with celebrities? Did
Speaker 2: you ever flirt with a celebrity in LA when you
Speaker 2: were playing?
Speaker 10: Never flirted, But if I saw, you know, someone that
Speaker 10: I wanted to flirt with, or I raised my game,
Speaker 10: you know you want to play well and send them
Speaker 10: home with something.
Speaker 2: You know, so Billy Barry is their courd side. You
Speaker 2: might might want the ball a little more.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, and you know you might, you know, shoot
Speaker 10: your shot or dunk on someone a little harder and
Speaker 10: mistakenly look at it.
Speaker 5: You know, you know it's not the weak. But oh,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, did I just do that?
Speaker 10: You know, that's that type of thing I do.
Speaker 5: Remember.
Speaker 10: One of the best compliments I ever got was was
Speaker 10: Jack looks before the game and the playoffs in LA
Speaker 10: and you would change right by him and I'm really
Speaker 10: focused and nervous and getting ready to go, and he says,
Speaker 10: the calm before the storm. You were the calm before
Speaker 10: the storm. And we blew l a out that game.
Speaker 10: And I remember thinking he never should have given me
Speaker 10: that compliment because I had to live up to that
Speaker 10: in front of him.
Speaker 2: What's it like, though, when everybody knows you're getting the
Speaker 2: ball like you and the feeling of I don't Some guys,
Speaker 2: you know, they run away from the ball, Others run
Speaker 2: to the ball.
Speaker 10: Yeah. I think that it's all about knowing your game.
Speaker 10: It's really simple knowing that you have a move and
Speaker 10: a counter move with it's starting like that. It's really easy,
Speaker 10: and then if you have great players around, it's easier
Speaker 10: to trust. So I can only speak from my experience,
Speaker 10: but knowing that I was gonna get double team late
Speaker 10: in the game, I would be talking to Page or
Speaker 10: of lottying them during the whole game.
Speaker 5: You see, they're gonna come double me at this point.
Speaker 5: Later I got you, and so it gives you freedom.
Speaker 10: The easiest person to check on the court is a
Speaker 10: selfish person, and so you have to make sure through
Speaker 10: your abilities that you keep everyone on their toes. Just
Speaker 10: look at a guy like Jokis. You know he wants
Speaker 10: the ball late in the game, but he may not
Speaker 10: shoot seven possessions in a row, but they're gonna score
Speaker 10: seven possessions in a row. So for me, the most
Speaker 10: important thing is, yeah, can you score? But there are
Speaker 10: a lot of guys we waited to the end to
Speaker 10: double because they didn't have to acumen in the past,
Speaker 10: or didn't even know where other teammates were. And so
Speaker 10: to me, it's how can you make a score happen
Speaker 10: if you're a great player late in the game. Lebron
Speaker 10: was accused a lot for that, but he's one of
Speaker 10: the best examples. Magic as well of being able to
Speaker 10: take a moment find it, know that I can score,
Speaker 10: but it may be easier to loosen you up by
Speaker 10: finding a wide open Jr. Or someone in the corner,
Speaker 10: or Booby Gibson that hurt us in Detroit, to kill
Speaker 10: you a little bit better instead of being selfish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we give Magic a hall pass and say
Speaker 2: that's a positive Lebron. People viewed that as a negative,
Speaker 2: that he didn't want to take the big shot in
Speaker 2: those situations with Magic. It was like, look at how
Speaker 2: unselfish he is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, you're right, Dan, But so let's separate the
Speaker 10: first time he played against San Antonio, let's separate, you know,
Speaker 10: when he was learning on that learning curve.
Speaker 5: But he always played the right way.
Speaker 10: And so there was one game, I think in the
Speaker 10: Pistons Game seven, I think we're playing against him and we're,
Speaker 10: you know, trying to go to the championship, and this
Speaker 10: guy scores.
Speaker 5: Twenty four in a row, twenty five in a row.
Speaker 10: But Booby Gibson had a great game because he was
Speaker 10: finding this guy in the corner. And then you wonder,
Speaker 10: how does a guy like Nisman if how does a
Speaker 10: guy Booby Gibson come out of nowhere. How does the
Speaker 10: guy like Fisher, Derek Fisher come out of nowhere and
Speaker 10: do these things. So, let's because Shaq trusted at one point,
Speaker 10: it's because Lebron trusted.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's that line in the sand with Lebron.
Speaker 10: But when he was able and found his voice, found
Speaker 10: his way on the court, he still played the right way.
Speaker 5: And for me, he doesn't get enough credit for that.
Speaker 2: Did Lebron have forty three on you guys in that
Speaker 2: game seven?
Speaker 5: I know he had twenty four to twenty five straight and.
Speaker 2: Oh he had forty had forty eight.
Speaker 10: Thanks, I'm gonna call Rashid Wallason reminds him of that
Speaker 10: because that's one of Rashid's biggest failures. Or I won't
Speaker 10: even say that. That's something that hurt Rashid the most,
Speaker 10: is a defensive player. That it was one guy on
Speaker 10: the floor that we couldn't stop us. So yeah, whatever
Speaker 10: he did, he hurt our feelings and kept us from
Speaker 10: a championships.
Speaker 2: Hurt your feelings. He's Chris Webber Hall of Famer. I
Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier. We can't underestimate the impact of the
Speaker 2: Dream Team in nineteen ninety two on the world because
Speaker 2: here we are, what thirty three years later and look
Speaker 2: at the best players in the game. The players are
Speaker 2: from outside the top five players. You can make an
Speaker 2: argument are not American born shay Gil just getting the MVP.
Speaker 2: You got Luca, you got Jannis. I mean, we can
Speaker 2: go down the list there. But that impact of we
Speaker 2: laughed at the rest of the world. We're crushing Barkley's
Speaker 2: making fun of people. We're focused on us, whereas the
Speaker 2: world focused on them, and how how do we get
Speaker 2: better as a basketball country? And look at what that
Speaker 2: impact did with the NBA.
Speaker 5: So you're right, that impact was great.
Speaker 10: I remember just hearing about players like Sabonis or other
Speaker 10: players and really not knowing until I got to play
Speaker 10: with great players like Sharona's marshalonas Or or Payserstoyakovis or
Speaker 10: Potapinko or others. I think we did a great job
Speaker 10: in showing our secrets and showing them you know that
Speaker 10: you can be like Jordan, at least you could dream
Speaker 10: like this, and if you don't reach Jordan ability, you
Speaker 10: can still be pretty good if you watch him. And
Speaker 10: so I think that we did a great job and
Speaker 10: exposing the game. But I also think the way that
Speaker 10: the system was set up. You know, Luca was professional
Speaker 10: with what fifteen, So if he's professional at fifteen, comes
Speaker 10: to the NBA with five years experience in playing against
Speaker 10: grown man, he's gonna have a.
Speaker 5: Better trajectory.
Speaker 10: And so I think that the systems that we had
Speaker 10: overseas and a lot of guys to play professionally and
Speaker 10: younger helped them advance a lot quicker. But our last
Speaker 10: seven MVPs there were all foreigners so to speak, or
Speaker 10: people from other places. And truthfully, Sean could have won
Speaker 10: last year and truthly the year indeed one you know,
Speaker 10: Jokis could have won that, so you could have a
Speaker 10: full time I really look at Yokis just missing the MVP.
Speaker 10: He should have one more MVP. So I love the
Speaker 10: way that the game is spread. But it comes back
Speaker 10: to skill skill skill, and hopefully it all set of
Speaker 10: fire under a lot of the young kids to you know,
Speaker 10: be the best that they could be. But I think
Speaker 10: the game is going to always elevate no matter who's
Speaker 10: the best, because guys around the world watched the best
Speaker 10: and we come better after that.
Speaker 2: But you also look, and I I'm sure you remember this,
Speaker 2: but when Barkley won MVP. When Karl Malone won MVP,
Speaker 2: everybody knew that Michael Jordan was the best player in
Speaker 2: the game, right, Shay Gilgis is getting.
Speaker 5: The m v P.
Speaker 2: But I think everybody recognizes Joker is still the best
Speaker 2: player in the game. It just and I I mean
Speaker 2: SGA and Okac had the best year and he's the
Speaker 2: best player. But I don't know how players reacted when
Speaker 2: you know Barkley played well for Phoenix, Carl played well
Speaker 2: for Utah. You know, Michael, I don't think cared about
Speaker 2: the regular season as much as he's going to win
Speaker 2: a championship.
Speaker 10: Well, I also think there's fatigue. You know, there's fatigue. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: you know, you really think about it. You can't have
Speaker 10: a co MVP. But how did he not win the MVP?
Speaker 10: But then again with Shy, I think I think too.
Speaker 10: I think it's the culture of how we play, if
Speaker 10: we want to really be honest, I think that, you know,
Speaker 10: I love playing with players that make everyone better, and
Speaker 10: so I think the days of just scoring forty and
Speaker 10: being that guy like that's that's not necessarily winning basketball.
Speaker 10: To be doubled in the post and not get anyone
Speaker 10: else involved. That's why we love Jokics and maybe not
Speaker 10: other Sinners. And so I think the culture at least
Speaker 10: from watching Doctors, at least from watching Shy is that
Speaker 10: Shay gilges is that they're always gonna try to make
Speaker 10: the right play, even if it's being selfish four or
Speaker 10: five times in a row. But watching them facilitate get
Speaker 10: other guys involved is so special. That's why Halliburton is
Speaker 10: special though, and I've always known that even he was
Speaker 10: drafted in Sacramento, because he gets everyone involved. And I
Speaker 10: think that that has become the culture of the European player,
Speaker 10: and as Americans being the best scorer, you know, it's
Speaker 10: a little more that you can add to that. And
Speaker 10: I think that that's where the line of the sand
Speaker 10: is gonna come, like how how much better do you
Speaker 10: make your team? And Shy's team would not be that good. Okay,
Speaker 10: see got the first round without him, and Denver may
Speaker 10: not have made the playoffs without Jokis. And that's what
Speaker 10: I like the distinction in the MVP argument. It's not that, oh,
Speaker 10: look at the stats. If we really take.
Speaker 5: Them away from their teams without them even scoring, they
Speaker 5: make their teams better.
Speaker 10: And I think that that shows what the most valuable
Speaker 10: player is, not the most valuable score, but the most
Speaker 10: valuable teammate.
Speaker 2: But you were on the college select team that beat
Speaker 2: the Dream Team, right.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we beat them, coach, K how you doing.
Speaker 2: Like it was real though? That was a real game,
Speaker 2: right yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 10: Was a practice then. Like you know, I'm sure that
Speaker 10: you've been around your heroes and commentating or journalism and
Speaker 10: things when you first got in the game, and if
Speaker 10: you really first remember those things, just you know, there
Speaker 10: was no social media. Dominique Wilkins and you know I
Speaker 10: had him on the wall with Brooks and the Tonics,
Speaker 10: the different shoes, I had magic every I knew everything
Speaker 10: about them that you could at the time.
Speaker 5: I watched all the Bloopers tapes.
Speaker 10: Remember that's all we could get was the Bloopers tapes
Speaker 10: with the coach from Utah at the time, so.
Speaker 5: Access was not hearing.
Speaker 10: So Frank Laydon and I remember I remember being in
Speaker 10: a huddle and our with literally with tears in our
Speaker 10: eyes because we're eighteen twenty at this time.
Speaker 5: I just come from the championship.
Speaker 10: We were losing a duke and I'm playing with Bobby
Speaker 10: Hurley and Grant Hill and all my friends and we're
Speaker 10: in a huddle like this is a dream come true.
Speaker 10: None of us were thinking about going to the league.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 10: This is the if I go back to the purest
Speaker 10: of moments in sporting life. It had to be then,
Speaker 10: you know, because it was okay. I couldn't believe how
Speaker 10: quick Bobby Hurley was and that it transcended onto the
Speaker 10: court against Magic where he's taking Magic and Stockton, Like,
Speaker 10: we didn't believe in ourselves like this.
Speaker 5: These were just our heroes. Barkley was my favorite player.
Speaker 10: So to go against Barkley and Patrick Ewing and a
Speaker 10: dunk on them, that was like the biggest thing in
Speaker 10: the call home. And so we really played the hardest
Speaker 10: that we could. We caught them sleeping, and Chuck Daily,
Speaker 10: being from me, tried and had a great relationship with him,
Speaker 10: and I remember him patting us on the back like
Speaker 10: good job, and you.
Speaker 5: Know it's a good coach.
Speaker 10: You want to use different things to centivize your team,
Speaker 10: and and and we beat them, and for them to
Speaker 10: say last point, it's so.
Speaker 5: Uh infuriating to hear him say, well.
Speaker 10: Jordan's sat on the bench Jordan could have sat on
Speaker 10: the bench the whole scrimmage and you're saying, we still
Speaker 10: beat the All Star team, but we'll take that. And
Speaker 10: so I think any excuse for them is not giving
Speaker 10: the credit of how great they were, and any great team, thoughs,
Speaker 10: you can get caught slipping. One day, we caught them slipping,
Speaker 10: and the next day I do not remember.
Speaker 5: Us scoring one basketball. That's how much they wanted to
Speaker 5: pay us back.
Speaker 10: So if they didn't beat us, then they wouldn't have
Speaker 10: been that mad that next day because they kicked our ass.
Speaker 2: Who was it was it? Rodney Rodgers, Rodney Rogers.
Speaker 10: He I don't know why he kept talking. He was
Speaker 10: just always talking. His country guy is so strong. And
Speaker 10: I remember Larry Bird because because he was my hero,
Speaker 10: and I just remember.
Speaker 5: Watching them and we didn't realize he was that tall.
Speaker 10: His back was hurting, you know, he kind of walk
Speaker 10: ran with a little bit of a gate. But his movements,
Speaker 10: because he was such a great passer, you couldn't come
Speaker 10: up on him because his first step was so quick,
Speaker 10: and Rodney Rodgers were rotating and he goes to the
Speaker 10: corner and he pump fakes and as he pumped fakes.
Speaker 5: He's like, welcome to the parachute.
Speaker 10: Club, and we're like, you're talking during a shot and
Speaker 10: I'm talking about it just fell through.
Speaker 5: It looked like the nets didn't even move, you know,
Speaker 5: one of those things.
Speaker 10: But we would have got fined because we're kind of
Speaker 10: giving each other five, Like did you see what Larry.
Speaker 2: Just did to us with Oh you guys were celebrating
Speaker 2: him towrding Rodney Rogers.
Speaker 10: Yes, bad, but Larry Bird made a lot of people
Speaker 10: do that. Look go look on YouTube against the Hawks
Speaker 10: game when he's calling shots with his left hand. That
Speaker 10: whole bench should have got fined.
Speaker 5: Because they did.
Speaker 2: If they didn't get fined, oh good, good.
Speaker 5: Because that's the bad president.
Speaker 10: I mean I would have gone to the locker room and
Speaker 10: tried to fight my teammates like it's nothing I could do.
Speaker 5: And you guys are cheering him.
Speaker 2: Moll you never you never did that when you played
Speaker 2: against Jordan or you're on the bench and Jordan did
Speaker 2: something and you like turned your your guys and said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, and give me five.
Speaker 10: I put I put my shirt over like that act
Speaker 10: like let him know later.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 10: One time, Jordan, we were in the playoffs. Jordan Parks
Speaker 10: is ferrari inside the building, which you shouldn't be able
Speaker 10: to do. He's smoking a cigar before the game, which
Speaker 10: I mean, you can do whatever you want. And we're
Speaker 10: the lowly bullets and uh, Juwan and I are getting
Speaker 10: off the bus and Jawan's very close with.
Speaker 5: Him and he's like Juan, who's guarding me tonight?
Speaker 10: And Calbert Cheney was behind us and h we both
Speaker 10: looked and dead like that, And that was the one
Speaker 10: time I crims about how I left the teammate hanging
Speaker 10: because Jordan had fifty five on us that night.
Speaker 2: And poor Calvert Cheney.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for he's the man though, but yeah, hey, is
Speaker 10: you dealing with Jordan and Kobe. You're gonna have to
Speaker 10: take You're gonna have to take some aails man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was that same like tenseness that like
Speaker 2: or they probably were like, Okay, who's who's gonna get
Speaker 2: take a beating? You know, tell me And then you
Speaker 2: guys are like pointing at cowbird Cheney there.
Speaker 10: That's exactly what we left him hanging down as a
Speaker 10: teammate and a captain. That's the one thing our criinge
Speaker 10: that like because we both are like, hey, this guy,
Speaker 10: leave us alone.
Speaker 2: But Kobe didn't do that.
Speaker 5: No, Kobe didn't do that.
Speaker 10: But I had a teammate and now a coach, and
Speaker 10: Doug Christie that very honestly, he's the man, because Kobe
Speaker 10: would score a shot after shot, Doug would play it correctly,
Speaker 10: hand in his face. I saw him tap Kobe on
Speaker 10: his head before and things like that.
Speaker 5: It didn't stop him. It didn't stop him.
Speaker 10: And after the game, you know, him look at himself
Speaker 10: in the mirror like I did all I could do.
Speaker 10: When he gets forty four and I'm ready for tomorrow,
Speaker 10: you know, you gotta have you gotta have some big
Speaker 10: nuggets to do that, and teammates that that do their
Speaker 10: job knowing that it's an uphill battle. Man, it's so
Speaker 10: great playing with guys with that commitment because it makes
Speaker 10: you commit that much more.
Speaker 2: You can't hap Kobe on his forehead on the jump.
Speaker 5: Shot, Oh yeah, a lot of it. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 5: know how guys top you on the hill?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh I know that.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, yeah, on the forehead, on the shot,
Speaker 10: on the forehead, Oh yeah, on the forehead.
Speaker 2: Damn, that would piss me off.
Speaker 10: Yeah, a little lass season, you know all that stuff, Yeah,
Speaker 10: going in your ear.
Speaker 5: You gotta try anything.
Speaker 2: You didn't do that though, No, I.
Speaker 10: Think against the King, I pushed and you know, try stuff,
Speaker 10: but it didn't work.
Speaker 5: It didn't work, didn't work.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a Keen would get agitated with anything.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 10: No, And you're hoping one guy, like whether he makes
Speaker 10: the shot or misses the shot, you're hoping he misses it.
Speaker 10: It starts to complain, and then you've done your job
Speaker 10: because at least he's thinking about something else while trying
Speaker 10: to destroy it.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine somebody tapping Michael Jordan on the head.
Speaker 2: Even Kobe, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 10: I want to, you know what, I couldn't either, But
Speaker 10: I'm I played with some guys that I think would
Speaker 10: like a Vernon Maxim.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, Vernon Vernon and Albert Alvin Robertson seem to
Speaker 2: be the craziest guys that Like, there've been crazy guys,
Speaker 2: but those are two guys that might be on the
Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And you know what, You're just so right and
Speaker 10: what's so great about guys like that? I think people
Speaker 10: think that you know, and I'm sure Draymond must do this.
Speaker 10: But I think people think that they're a distraction, and
Speaker 10: really what it is is comfort because we needed what
Speaker 10: Vernon Maxwell had in Sacramento our first year. Jay Will
Speaker 10: White Chocolate needed that because if he gets that every
Speaker 10: day in practice and you get tired, almost like your
Speaker 10: big brother, then you understand when these other guys do it,
Speaker 10: it's nothing because you're getting you know, abused all the time.
Speaker 10: And so those guys make locker rooms better because they
Speaker 10: do set an expectation where you have to be more
Speaker 10: accountable because you know, this guy over here is crazy
Speaker 10: giving it his own.
Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with him.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Joe, Thank you, Looking forward to seeing you
Speaker 10: in Aman Sayler's movie Baby.
Speaker 2: Thank You. Bunny at a Sea Web Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: and the first overall pick by the Magic Back in
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety three NBA Draft. Take a break. If
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Speaker 2: Are these Sliders? Awesome. Dylan did a wonderful job. He
Speaker 2: nearly cut off part of his thumb yesterday. It was
Speaker 2: in the emergency room until three in the morning, and
Speaker 2: then whipped up. We got lobster rolls on the King Sawaim.
Speaker 2: We have pulled pork. We have Philly cheese steaks. We
Speaker 2: have lobster bisk Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 2: No By and Todd always eats like it's his last
Speaker 2: meal before he's executed.
Speaker 6: You load up when there's multiple items I want to try,
Speaker 6: but you.
Speaker 2: Can always go back out there.
Speaker 6: I could, but it's just easy to have it all
Speaker 6: mixed together on the plate. I have to go back.
Speaker 6: I could just sitting and get going.
Speaker 2: Okay, well do some damage. Gary and san Antonio, Hi, Gary,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 10: Dan?
Speaker 12: And then five eleven seven eight. Uh, I just went
Speaker 12: to the doctor. They wouldn't give me that one eighth
Speaker 12: of an inch for insurance purposes that anyway, I just
Speaker 12: have one question, but let me preface it by saying
Speaker 12: that Fritzy is my favorite down Net. However, I'm also
Speaker 12: a big fan of Martin. I know Fitty thinks you
Speaker 12: can see with all his holy notes impressions and dishping thing,
Speaker 12: et cetera. But you have Marvin closing to show every Friday,
Speaker 12: and he crushes it. Man, he crushes and at times
Speaker 12: the camera pans over to fifteen. You see he's disinterested.
Speaker 12: So my question is it, have you ever talked to
Speaker 12: your privately since he actual or upset that this should
Speaker 12: be his gig, his stick.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Fritzie gets to sing enough. Do I
Speaker 2: really make a disinterested face? I'm my eyes are on
Speaker 2: Marvin because he's singing.
Speaker 5: I think my.
Speaker 6: Disinterest is like I just want to get the segment
Speaker 6: of what's I can go back to eating. Maybe not
Speaker 6: so much that he sing. I think it does a
Speaker 6: great job singing that song.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but this is Marvin. Marvin started singing unprovoked.
Speaker 2: You uh well, you kind of provoke yourself to start saying,
Speaker 2: and we encourage.
Speaker 6: Marvin to to do that. At the end, I kind
Speaker 6: of put it out there and you guys rather me not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I mean, you sing, You've been up
Speaker 2: on stage singing and you get sing a lot snoreboard
Speaker 2: you sing there too, and you know this is Marvin's
Speaker 2: moment as it should be. Yeah, be a team player.
Speaker 2: That's a team player. Okay, Devin in Cincinnati, Hi Devin,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 13: DP, thanks for calling me back, man, Yep, just wanted
Speaker 13: to first wish you and the Dan it's a happy
Speaker 13: Memorial Day weekend. Even though that Ron time segment's gonna
Speaker 13: stick with us for a minute.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 13: But the reason for my call is that it is
Speaker 13: my oldest brother's thirty second birthday today. His name is Shane.
Speaker 13: He's a long time listener, introduced me to the show
Speaker 13: like twelve years ago, and it would mean everything to
Speaker 13: wish here you guys wishing my happy birthday.
Speaker 2: And it's been It's Shane.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Shane from Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Alrighty ready happy Todd, what what'd you learn today?
Speaker 6: That Dylan cut off part of his thumb preparing me Thursday,
Speaker 6: So we'll we take a closer look at any strange
Speaker 6: spots we may see on our lock setan.
Speaker 2: What did you learn today? Our DraftKings pick six lineup?
Speaker 5: Would uh?
Speaker 3: We'd win about one hundred and twenty dollars on that
Speaker 3: ten dollars bet, Marvin?
Speaker 2: Would you learn Lebron hurt Chris Weber's feelings? Todd, what
Speaker 2: did I learn?
Speaker 6: Money doesn't buy happiness.
Speaker 2: Look at the sulking one Sodo. Thanks for joining us. Everybody,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.