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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.

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Speaker 2: In this Thursday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 2: come on in. We'll talk to Chris Webber, Fab five

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer recap what we saw last night. It's

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Speaker 2: one of those where you watch it and you go,

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Speaker 2: I think I need to watch that again. The final

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Speaker 2: three minutes. But the Pacers come back and shock to

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Speaker 2: the Knicks. They've gotten used to this now when you

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Speaker 2: think about it, staging a comeback of that magnitude on

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Speaker 2: the road. Since nineteen ninety seven, there have been a

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Speaker 2: total four comebacks from seven or more points down in

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Speaker 2: the final fifty seconds in the postseason. This in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter overtime. The Pacers have three of the four

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Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety seven. Stat of the Day, stat of

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Speaker 2: the Day, That past stat of the day, stat of

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Speaker 2: the day, Here comes that what stat of the day?

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton Stat of the Day brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Tyree's

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Speaker 2: Haliburton will get the headlines, and rightfully so with the

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Speaker 2: shot that sent it into overtime. But Aaron Nee Smith

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Speaker 2: is really the guy. This is the Nie Smith game.

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Speaker 2: This is what it'll be remembering for Pacer fans if

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Speaker 2: they go on to win. This is going to be

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Speaker 2: the Knie Smith game because he had thirty he had

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Speaker 2: six three pointers. He dominated in the fourth quarter, and

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Speaker 2: you're probably going, who is this guy and what is

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Speaker 2: he doing hitting all those three pointers? It was Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry like in the postseason. But we tend to overreact.

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Speaker 2: I didn't overreact with Okac against Minnesota. I wasn't surprised

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Speaker 2: with that outcome. I won't be surprised if the Pacers

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Speaker 2: win this series. But I don't look at Game one

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Speaker 2: as truly a true indicator of what's going to happen

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Speaker 2: in the series. I mean, you can look winning games,

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Speaker 2: losing games, getting blown out, but this one counts as

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Speaker 2: one and a half losses. This one just feels like

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Speaker 2: it's a little more now at least you're at home,

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Speaker 2: but then you start to have that pressure of we

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Speaker 2: got to win this game. Indiana is you know since January,

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Speaker 2: I think they've lost a total of sixteen games. They

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Speaker 2: might be forty two and sixteen. This is not a coincidence.

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Speaker 2: This is habit forming. They have been a great team

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Speaker 2: and they will run you. I mean they are aptly

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Speaker 2: named the Pacers. They are going to run you. They're

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Speaker 2: going to make you try to keep up with them,

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Speaker 2: and it might be a war of attrition. Can the

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Speaker 2: Knicks they're starting five, survive a team that can go

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Speaker 2: nine deep? And that'll be the true test. With all

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Speaker 2: of this, we say, good morning. If you're watching on Peacock,

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Speaker 2: our streaming partner radio affiliates around the country, poll question

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Speaker 2: for the final hour of the program, what are we

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Speaker 2: going to go with? Seaton? Yeah, we got up there

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Greatest warrior ever, Wilt Chamberlain, Rick Berry, Steph Curry or

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Speaker 3: Dylan the graphics guy here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan cut off part of his thumb yesterday chopping

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Speaker 2: onions because we have a meet Thursday, because we're not

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Speaker 2: here tomorrow. By the way, in case you're wondering, we

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Speaker 2: have pulled pork sliders, We have Philly cheese steak sliders,

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Speaker 2: lobster roll sliders, and we have lobster bisk all this

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Speaker 2: courtesy of King's Hawaiian who is a better than we do.

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Speaker 2: No body, no nobody but Fritzi's here, Seaton's here, Marvin's here,

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Speaker 2: Paulic's off today, yours truly and the b rg's all

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Speaker 2: right final hour poll question? Did you just give that

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Speaker 2: to me? See?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave you the options right now. Steph Curry

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Speaker 3: has sixty percent of pot. However, Dylan is coming in

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Speaker 3: with an impressive twenty six. He's currently beating Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 3: and Rick Berry as the greatest second best Warrior of

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Speaker 3: all time. That's a pretty good showing. God, admit it's

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Speaker 3: a bad like he lost part of his thumb. That's gross.

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Speaker 2: Now, that would have been reason enough. He said he

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Speaker 2: was gonna come in today, but hashtag warrior.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He's not even like complaining about it or anything.

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Speaker 2: He's just like totally fine. I think he's proud of it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, I lost a little bit of my thumb.

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Speaker 2: But hope you enjoyed the sliders.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna eat the

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Speaker 2: lobster roll with a suspicious eye. I just want to

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Speaker 2: make sure that you know nothing got in there. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: time we should put a.

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Speaker 6: Few slides on a microscope just to see if there's

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Speaker 6: any cells that we need to be considered it for

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Speaker 6: consuming the product a.

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Speaker 2: Little science of class humor. There still slides, you know,

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Speaker 2: you use a slide on a microscope, a little pheno

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Speaker 2: failure auditus. So it was just kind of AnyWho, it's

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Speaker 2: the only way to really see if there's what on

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Speaker 2: the fruit. Any who, we can slide into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: By the way, sliding into the weekend brought to you

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Speaker 2: and enjoy. We'll have the Pacers at the next that'll

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Speaker 2: be Friday Night Oilers Stars Friday Night. I know. The

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Speaker 2: only time Leon dry Sidel's name comes up usually with

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Speaker 2: the play of the day in the postseason. And then

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Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky said that the Oilers had the two of

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Speaker 2: the three best players in the National Hockey League with

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Speaker 2: Connor McDavid and Leon dry Sidle yesterday. What's Gretzky no

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Speaker 2: Saturday Dodgers at the Mets is one Soto? Is he

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Speaker 2: is he kind of sulking? Is he sad? I keep

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Speaker 2: seeing these articles that he's not happy with the Mets, yes,

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Speaker 2: and questions.

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Speaker 6: About his hustling to first base and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: He's not giving up, he's moping or something. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know. Seven hundred million just can't keep

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Speaker 6: But living paycheck to paycheck, it's got to be a

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Speaker 2: Grass is always greener.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to play for the Yankees. I love that,

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Speaker 2: Like I just I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm making it up at this point, but

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Speaker 3: I always imagine Wan Soda standing with a bat in

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Speaker 2: Where do you want to play that year? Whoever's got

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Speaker 2: the most money? Yeah, touch an, That's all it is.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what it was. Whoever's opening up the bank account.

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Speaker 2: If Scott Morris is your agent, you're playing for the

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Speaker 2: highest bidder, not where you might be happiest, but for

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Speaker 2: the highest bidder. Yes, Marvin, I can't believe twenty years

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Speaker 2: ago we were like two hundred fifty two million dollars

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Speaker 5: A rod.

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Speaker 2: Thunder Timberworf's Game three and then Charles Schwab challenge. Can

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Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler win his third golf event in a row?

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Speaker 2: of phone calls in here see Webb will stop by

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Speaker 2: as well, Rick and Coral Springs. Hi, Rick, what's on

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Speaker 2: your mind today?

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Speaker 7: Hey Dan? First time caller, longtime listener. Loved the show

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Speaker 7: six foot used to be two of four, Now down

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Speaker 7: the one eighty eighth, feeling good. Just wanted to bring

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Speaker 7: up something that's been bugging me about Jason Kelsey and

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Speaker 7: the toush puss. He used to Stan of the podcast

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Speaker 7: that he hated to play, didn't like being at the

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Speaker 7: bottom of the pile, and now all of a sudden he's

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Speaker 7: the face of it. So wanted to ask you. I'm

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Speaker 7: wondering exactly he said that made the team shift. He

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Speaker 7: said he never got Did he say he never got hurt?

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Speaker 7: That's safer than it looks. But if he hated it,

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Speaker 7: then clearly something about it made him feel uncomfortable. Just

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Speaker 7: curious where that shift came from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, unless it was the owner saying

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Speaker 2: to Jason Kelcey, you're retired, We're still playing. We still

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Speaker 2: have a really good offensive line and a quarterback who's

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Speaker 2: really good at this. We need you to help us.

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Speaker 2: We need you to be a lobbyist. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: the owner's meetings, and we want you to be the

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Speaker 2: spokes person for the touchbush. But yes, he has said,

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Speaker 2: and once again, I truly believe the center is the

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Speaker 2: most vulnerable to injuries in this situation. The touch bush

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Speaker 2: it survived. I don't think it survives next year. You

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Speaker 2: need two more votes and then they'll get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, the Eagles will continue. You know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm the Eagles, you can run different variations off

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Speaker 2: of this. You know, I could line up Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 2: out wide or Dallas Goddard outwall. I mean, I could

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Speaker 2: do a lot of different things off of this. If

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Speaker 2: you think that we're going to be one dimensional, although

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Speaker 2: you're doing something great, don't mess with it. But it

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Speaker 2: felt like they were trying to do a couple of

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Speaker 2: different variations off of this formation last year. Trey in

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Speaker 2: Ocean Springs, Hi, Tray, Hey, Trey, can't hear you? Trey,

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Speaker 2: try again? Brian in Tampa, Hi, Brian wents On your

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Speaker 2: mind today.

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Speaker 8: Good morning Dana and the Milfords Man Cave Ernest Brian

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Speaker 8: Gregory Junior the third five ten, two fifteen this morning.

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Speaker 8: So I have the solution to the toush push is.

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Speaker 8: Having played through college, people don't know what a train

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Speaker 8: wreck the trenches are. I was never in there, thank god,

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Speaker 8: But I say they change the rules the defense. The

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Speaker 8: linebackers can walk up on any offensive play, field goal,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to do that because it's a

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Speaker 2: helpless you know, that center is not ready to engage

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Speaker 2: to cut down on injuries. They don't want something blatant

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Speaker 2: a pile on a toush push, maybe maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: that'll get people's attention. I just don't think it's going away,

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Speaker 2: the fact that, I mean, you almost ad it, and

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Speaker 2: I think they thought they had it. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Kelsey going in there and the Eagles, you know, saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, why are you penalizing us? And really that's

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Speaker 2: what it sounds like you're penalizing one team. I'm okay

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Speaker 2: with it. Do I like to watch it? Not really?

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Speaker 2: But they're beating everybody else at something that everybody else

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Speaker 2: can do. I don't have a problem with that. It'd

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Speaker 2: be like if you say, hey, Mahomes can't throw to

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Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. That's not fair. He's too fast. Can you

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Speaker 2: can you take you know, put put restrict plates on him?

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Speaker 5: Here?

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Speaker 2: The Patriots out smart people. I have no problem with this.

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Speaker 2: Everybody can do this. They do it better than everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Brian John in Minnesota, Hi, John, WIT's on

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Speaker 2: your mind?

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Speaker 1: Dad?

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Speaker 9: I call all the time. I was going to tell

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Speaker 9: you have one of the better lines in cinematic history,

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Speaker 9: and that's my boy. Would you say you smell that?

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Speaker 9: I smell ratings you're talking to Donning Berger. My questioned

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Speaker 9: what ratings are going to be the best for the final?

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Speaker 9: But what does the NBA of the business want to

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Speaker 9: see for the two final teams?

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Speaker 2: They want to see the Knicks and Okac. I think

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Speaker 2: you would want to have the MVP, and you want

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Speaker 2: everything that goes on with them, and people will get

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Speaker 2: And I have recorded all my lines for Happy Gilmore too,

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Speaker 2: So the big story is what happened at the garden

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Speaker 4: I've seen that winning Time Doc probably like fifty times

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Speaker 5: So definitely a special moment. And yes, I'm all't.

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Speaker 2: You're up fourteen at home, three minutes to go.

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Speaker 5: It happens when you have a really special team.

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Speaker 10: You know, first of all Haliburton, you look what he did,

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Speaker 5: He's coached against the greatest players.

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Speaker 10: He's played with the Celtics, by the way, so he

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Speaker 2: Why is it different playing in the Garden than any

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Speaker 10: Say the Garden and old La, Old La because you

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Speaker 10: New York was always special. And you know, if I

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Speaker 5: I have a very close friend. His name is Has.

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Speaker 10: man hous. But it's so much fun, and part of

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Speaker 2: Okay, but did you ever have conversations with celebrities? Did

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Speaker 10: Never flirted, But if I saw, you know, someone that

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Speaker 5: You know, you know it's not the weak. But oh,

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Speaker 10: You know, that's that type of thing I do.

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Speaker 10: One of the best compliments I ever got was was

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Speaker 10: Jack looks before the game and the playoffs in LA

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Speaker 10: And I remember thinking he never should have given me

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Speaker 2: What's it like, though, when everybody knows you're getting the

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I think that it's all about knowing your game.

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Speaker 10: It's really simple knowing that you have a move and

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Speaker 10: and then if you have great players around, it's easier

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Speaker 5: You see, they're gonna come double me at this point.

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Speaker 5: Later I got you, and so it gives you freedom.

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Speaker 10: The easiest person to check on the court is a

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Speaker 10: shoot seven possessions in a row, but they're gonna score

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Speaker 10: seven possessions in a row. So for me, the most

434
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Speaker 10: important thing is, yeah, can you score? But there are

435
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Speaker 10: a lot of guys we waited to the end to

436
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 10: double because they didn't have to acumen in the past,

437
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 10: or didn't even know where other teammates were. And so

438
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 10: to me, it's how can you make a score happen

439
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 10: if you're a great player late in the game. Lebron

440
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 10: was accused a lot for that, but he's one of

441
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Speaker 10: the best examples. Magic as well of being able to

442
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Speaker 10: take a moment find it, know that I can score,

443
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 10: but it may be easier to loosen you up by

444
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 10: finding a wide open Jr. Or someone in the corner,

445
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 10: or Booby Gibson that hurt us in Detroit, to kill

446
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 10: you a little bit better instead of being selfish.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we give Magic a hall pass and say

448
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: that's a positive Lebron. People viewed that as a negative,

449
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: that he didn't want to take the big shot in

450
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: those situations with Magic. It was like, look at how

451
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Speaker 2: unselfish he is.

452
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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, you're right, Dan, But so let's separate the

453
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 10: first time he played against San Antonio, let's separate, you know,

454
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 10: when he was learning on that learning curve.

455
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 5: But he always played the right way.

456
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Speaker 10: And so there was one game, I think in the

457
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 10: Pistons Game seven, I think we're playing against him and we're,

458
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Speaker 10: you know, trying to go to the championship, and this

459
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Speaker 10: guy scores.

460
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Speaker 5: Twenty four in a row, twenty five in a row.

461
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Speaker 10: But Booby Gibson had a great game because he was

462
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Speaker 10: finding this guy in the corner. And then you wonder,

463
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Speaker 10: how does a guy like Nisman if how does a

464
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Speaker 10: guy Booby Gibson come out of nowhere. How does the

465
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 10: guy like Fisher, Derek Fisher come out of nowhere and

466
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Speaker 10: do these things. So, let's because Shaq trusted at one point,

467
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 10: it's because Lebron trusted.

468
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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's that line in the sand with Lebron.

469
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Speaker 10: But when he was able and found his voice, found

470
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 10: his way on the court, he still played the right way.

471
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Speaker 5: And for me, he doesn't get enough credit for that.

472
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Speaker 2: Did Lebron have forty three on you guys in that

473
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Speaker 2: game seven?

474
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Speaker 5: I know he had twenty four to twenty five straight and.

475
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh he had forty had forty eight.

476
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Speaker 10: Thanks, I'm gonna call Rashid Wallason reminds him of that

477
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 10: because that's one of Rashid's biggest failures. Or I won't

478
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 10: even say that. That's something that hurt Rashid the most,

479
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 10: is a defensive player. That it was one guy on

480
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 10: the floor that we couldn't stop us. So yeah, whatever

481
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 10: he did, he hurt our feelings and kept us from

482
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Speaker 10: a championships.

483
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Speaker 2: Hurt your feelings. He's Chris Webber Hall of Famer. I

484
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: mentioned this earlier. We can't underestimate the impact of the

485
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: Dream Team in nineteen ninety two on the world because

486
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Speaker 2: here we are, what thirty three years later and look

487
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: at the best players in the game. The players are

488
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: from outside the top five players. You can make an

489
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: argument are not American born shay Gil just getting the MVP.

490
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: You got Luca, you got Jannis. I mean, we can

491
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Speaker 2: go down the list there. But that impact of we

492
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: laughed at the rest of the world. We're crushing Barkley's

493
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: making fun of people. We're focused on us, whereas the

494
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: world focused on them, and how how do we get

495
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: better as a basketball country? And look at what that

496
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: impact did with the NBA.

497
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Speaker 5: So you're right, that impact was great.

498
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Speaker 10: I remember just hearing about players like Sabonis or other

499
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 10: players and really not knowing until I got to play

500
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 10: with great players like Sharona's marshalonas Or or Payserstoyakovis or

501
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 10: Potapinko or others. I think we did a great job

502
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 10: in showing our secrets and showing them you know that

503
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 10: you can be like Jordan, at least you could dream

504
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 10: like this, and if you don't reach Jordan ability, you

505
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 10: can still be pretty good if you watch him. And

506
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 10: so I think that we did a great job and

507
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 10: exposing the game. But I also think the way that

508
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 10: the system was set up. You know, Luca was professional

509
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 10: with what fifteen, So if he's professional at fifteen, comes

510
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 10: to the NBA with five years experience in playing against

511
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 10: grown man, he's gonna have a.

512
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 5: Better trajectory.

513
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Speaker 10: And so I think that the systems that we had

514
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 10: overseas and a lot of guys to play professionally and

515
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 10: younger helped them advance a lot quicker. But our last

516
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 10: seven MVPs there were all foreigners so to speak, or

517
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 10: people from other places. And truthfully, Sean could have won

518
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 10: last year and truthly the year indeed one you know,

519
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 10: Jokis could have won that, so you could have a

520
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 10: full time I really look at Yokis just missing the MVP.

521
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 10: He should have one more MVP. So I love the

522
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 10: way that the game is spread. But it comes back

523
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 10: to skill skill skill, and hopefully it all set of

524
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 10: fire under a lot of the young kids to you know,

525
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 10: be the best that they could be. But I think

526
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 10: the game is going to always elevate no matter who's

527
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 10: the best, because guys around the world watched the best

528
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 10: and we come better after that.

529
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Speaker 2: But you also look, and I I'm sure you remember this,

530
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: but when Barkley won MVP. When Karl Malone won MVP,

531
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: everybody knew that Michael Jordan was the best player in

532
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: the game, right, Shay Gilgis is getting.

533
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 5: The m v P.

534
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: But I think everybody recognizes Joker is still the best

535
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: player in the game. It just and I I mean

536
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: SGA and Okac had the best year and he's the

537
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: best player. But I don't know how players reacted when

538
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: you know Barkley played well for Phoenix, Carl played well

539
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: for Utah. You know, Michael, I don't think cared about

540
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: the regular season as much as he's going to win

541
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: a championship.

542
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 10: Well, I also think there's fatigue. You know, there's fatigue. Yeah, yeah,

543
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 10: you know, you really think about it. You can't have

544
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 10: a co MVP. But how did he not win the MVP?

545
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 10: But then again with Shy, I think I think too.

546
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 10: I think it's the culture of how we play, if

547
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 10: we want to really be honest, I think that, you know,

548
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 10: I love playing with players that make everyone better, and

549
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 10: so I think the days of just scoring forty and

550
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 10: being that guy like that's that's not necessarily winning basketball.

551
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 10: To be doubled in the post and not get anyone

552
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 10: else involved. That's why we love Jokics and maybe not

553
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 10: other Sinners. And so I think the culture at least

554
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 10: from watching Doctors, at least from watching Shy is that

555
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 10: Shay gilges is that they're always gonna try to make

556
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 10: the right play, even if it's being selfish four or

557
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 10: five times in a row. But watching them facilitate get

558
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 10: other guys involved is so special. That's why Halliburton is

559
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 10: special though, and I've always known that even he was

560
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 10: drafted in Sacramento, because he gets everyone involved. And I

561
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 10: think that that has become the culture of the European player,

562
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 10: and as Americans being the best scorer, you know, it's

563
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 10: a little more that you can add to that. And

564
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 10: I think that that's where the line of the sand

565
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 10: is gonna come, like how how much better do you

566
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 10: make your team? And Shy's team would not be that good. Okay,

567
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 10: see got the first round without him, and Denver may

568
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 10: not have made the playoffs without Jokis. And that's what

569
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 10: I like the distinction in the MVP argument. It's not that, oh,

570
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 10: look at the stats. If we really take.

571
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 5: Them away from their teams without them even scoring, they

572
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 5: make their teams better.

573
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Speaker 10: And I think that that shows what the most valuable

574
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 10: player is, not the most valuable score, but the most

575
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 10: valuable teammate.

576
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: But you were on the college select team that beat

577
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: the Dream Team, right.

578
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we beat them, coach, K how you doing.

579
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Like it was real though? That was a real game,

580
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: right yeah, I mean it.

581
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 10: Was a practice then. Like you know, I'm sure that

582
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 10: you've been around your heroes and commentating or journalism and

583
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 10: things when you first got in the game, and if

584
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 10: you really first remember those things, just you know, there

585
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 10: was no social media. Dominique Wilkins and you know I

586
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 10: had him on the wall with Brooks and the Tonics,

587
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 10: the different shoes, I had magic every I knew everything

588
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 10: about them that you could at the time.

589
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: I watched all the Bloopers tapes.

590
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 10: Remember that's all we could get was the Bloopers tapes

591
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 10: with the coach from Utah at the time, so.

592
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: Access was not hearing.

593
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 10: So Frank Laydon and I remember I remember being in

594
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 10: a huddle and our with literally with tears in our

595
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 10: eyes because we're eighteen twenty at this time.

596
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: I just come from the championship.

597
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 10: We were losing a duke and I'm playing with Bobby

598
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 10: Hurley and Grant Hill and all my friends and we're

599
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 10: in a huddle like this is a dream come true.

600
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 10: None of us were thinking about going to the league.

601
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

602
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 10: This is the if I go back to the purest

603
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 10: of moments in sporting life. It had to be then,

604
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 10: you know, because it was okay. I couldn't believe how

605
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 10: quick Bobby Hurley was and that it transcended onto the

606
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 10: court against Magic where he's taking Magic and Stockton, Like,

607
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 10: we didn't believe in ourselves like this.

608
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: These were just our heroes. Barkley was my favorite player.

609
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 10: So to go against Barkley and Patrick Ewing and a

610
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 10: dunk on them, that was like the biggest thing in

611
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 10: the call home. And so we really played the hardest

612
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 10: that we could. We caught them sleeping, and Chuck Daily,

613
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 10: being from me, tried and had a great relationship with him,

614
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 10: and I remember him patting us on the back like

615
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 10: good job, and you.

616
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: Know it's a good coach.

617
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 10: You want to use different things to centivize your team,

618
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 10: and and and we beat them, and for them to

619
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 10: say last point, it's so.

620
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: Uh infuriating to hear him say, well.

621
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 10: Jordan's sat on the bench Jordan could have sat on

622
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 10: the bench the whole scrimmage and you're saying, we still

623
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 10: beat the All Star team, but we'll take that. And

624
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 10: so I think any excuse for them is not giving

625
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 10: the credit of how great they were, and any great team, thoughs,

626
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 10: you can get caught slipping. One day, we caught them slipping,

627
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 10: and the next day I do not remember.

628
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: Us scoring one basketball. That's how much they wanted to

629
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: pay us back.

630
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 10: So if they didn't beat us, then they wouldn't have

631
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 10: been that mad that next day because they kicked our ass.

632
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Who was it was it? Rodney Rodgers, Rodney Rogers.

633
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 10: He I don't know why he kept talking. He was

634
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 10: just always talking. His country guy is so strong. And

635
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 10: I remember Larry Bird because because he was my hero,

636
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 10: and I just remember.

637
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: Watching them and we didn't realize he was that tall.

638
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 10: His back was hurting, you know, he kind of walk

639
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 10: ran with a little bit of a gate. But his movements,

640
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 10: because he was such a great passer, you couldn't come

641
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 10: up on him because his first step was so quick,

642
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 10: and Rodney Rodgers were rotating and he goes to the

643
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 10: corner and he pump fakes and as he pumped fakes.

644
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: He's like, welcome to the parachute.

645
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 10: Club, and we're like, you're talking during a shot and

646
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 10: I'm talking about it just fell through.

647
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: It looked like the nets didn't even move, you know,

648
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: one of those things.

649
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 10: But we would have got fined because we're kind of

650
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 10: giving each other five, Like did you see what Larry.

651
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Speaker 2: Just did to us with Oh you guys were celebrating

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Speaker 2: him towrding Rodney Rogers.

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Speaker 10: Yes, bad, but Larry Bird made a lot of people

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Speaker 10: do that. Look go look on YouTube against the Hawks

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Speaker 10: game when he's calling shots with his left hand. That

656
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Speaker 10: whole bench should have got fined.

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Speaker 5: Because they did.

658
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Speaker 2: If they didn't get fined, oh good, good.

659
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Speaker 5: Because that's the bad president.

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Speaker 10: I mean I would have gone to the locker room and

661
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Speaker 10: tried to fight my teammates like it's nothing I could do.

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Speaker 5: And you guys are cheering him.

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Speaker 2: Moll you never you never did that when you played

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Speaker 2: against Jordan or you're on the bench and Jordan did

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Speaker 2: something and you like turned your your guys and said,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, and give me five.

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Speaker 10: I put I put my shirt over like that act

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Speaker 10: like let him know later.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 10: One time, Jordan, we were in the playoffs. Jordan Parks

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Speaker 10: is ferrari inside the building, which you shouldn't be able

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Speaker 10: to do. He's smoking a cigar before the game, which

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Speaker 10: I mean, you can do whatever you want. And we're

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Speaker 10: the lowly bullets and uh, Juwan and I are getting

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Speaker 10: off the bus and Jawan's very close with.

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Speaker 5: Him and he's like Juan, who's guarding me tonight?

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Speaker 10: And Calbert Cheney was behind us and h we both

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Speaker 10: looked and dead like that, And that was the one

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Speaker 10: time I crims about how I left the teammate hanging

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Speaker 10: because Jordan had fifty five on us that night.

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Speaker 2: And poor Calvert Cheney.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, for he's the man though, but yeah, hey, is

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Speaker 10: you dealing with Jordan and Kobe. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 10: take You're gonna have to take some aails man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was that same like tenseness that like

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Speaker 2: or they probably were like, Okay, who's who's gonna get

687
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Speaker 2: take a beating? You know, tell me And then you

688
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Speaker 2: guys are like pointing at cowbird Cheney there.

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Speaker 10: That's exactly what we left him hanging down as a

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Speaker 10: teammate and a captain. That's the one thing our criinge

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Speaker 10: that like because we both are like, hey, this guy,

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Speaker 10: leave us alone.

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Speaker 2: But Kobe didn't do that.

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Speaker 5: No, Kobe didn't do that.

695
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Speaker 10: But I had a teammate and now a coach, and

696
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 10: Doug Christie that very honestly, he's the man, because Kobe

697
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 10: would score a shot after shot, Doug would play it correctly,

698
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 10: hand in his face. I saw him tap Kobe on

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00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 10: his head before and things like that.

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Speaker 5: It didn't stop him. It didn't stop him.

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Speaker 10: And after the game, you know, him look at himself

702
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 10: in the mirror like I did all I could do.

703
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 10: When he gets forty four and I'm ready for tomorrow,

704
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 10: you know, you gotta have you gotta have some big

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00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 10: nuggets to do that, and teammates that that do their

706
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 10: job knowing that it's an uphill battle. Man, it's so

707
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 10: great playing with guys with that commitment because it makes

708
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 10: you commit that much more.

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Speaker 2: You can't hap Kobe on his forehead on the jump.

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Speaker 5: Shot, Oh yeah, a lot of it. Oh yeah, you

711
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 5: know how guys top you on the hill?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh I know that.

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, no, yeah, on the forehead, on the shot,

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00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 10: on the forehead, Oh yeah, on the forehead.

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Speaker 2: Damn, that would piss me off.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a little lass season, you know all that stuff, Yeah,

718
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 10: going in your ear.

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Speaker 5: You gotta try anything.

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Speaker 2: You didn't do that though, No, I.

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Speaker 10: Think against the King, I pushed and you know, try stuff,

722
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 10: but it didn't work.

723
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Speaker 5: It didn't work, didn't work.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a Keen would get agitated with anything.

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Speaker 5: No.

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00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 10: No, And you're hoping one guy, like whether he makes

727
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 10: the shot or misses the shot, you're hoping he misses it.

728
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 10: It starts to complain, and then you've done your job

729
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 10: because at least he's thinking about something else while trying

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00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 10: to destroy it.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine somebody tapping Michael Jordan on the head.

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Speaker 2: Even Kobe, I can't imagine that.

733
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Speaker 10: I want to, you know what, I couldn't either, But

734
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Speaker 10: I'm I played with some guys that I think would

735
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 10: like a Vernon Maxim.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, Vernon Vernon and Albert Alvin Robertson seem to

737
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: be the craziest guys that Like, there've been crazy guys,

738
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: but those are two guys that might be on the

739
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Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And you know what, You're just so right and

742
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 10: what's so great about guys like that? I think people

743
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 10: think that you know, and I'm sure Draymond must do this.

744
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 10: But I think people think that they're a distraction, and

745
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 10: really what it is is comfort because we needed what

746
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 10: Vernon Maxwell had in Sacramento our first year. Jay Will

747
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 10: White Chocolate needed that because if he gets that every

748
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 10: day in practice and you get tired, almost like your

749
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 10: big brother, then you understand when these other guys do it,

750
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 10: it's nothing because you're getting you know, abused all the time.

751
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 10: And so those guys make locker rooms better because they

752
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 10: do set an expectation where you have to be more

753
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 10: accountable because you know, this guy over here is crazy

754
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 10: giving it his own.

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00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with him.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, Joe, Thank you, Looking forward to seeing you

757
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 10: in Aman Sayler's movie Baby.

758
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: Thank You. Bunny at a Sea Web Hall of Famer

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00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: and the first overall pick by the Magic Back in

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00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety three NBA Draft. Take a break. If

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Speaker 2: you're watching on Peacock, it is a meet Thursday. Come

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Speaker 2: out to the Tragger Hood with us back after this.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap Man.

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Speaker 2: Are these Sliders? Awesome. Dylan did a wonderful job. He

767
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: nearly cut off part of his thumb yesterday. It was

768
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: in the emergency room until three in the morning, and

769
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Speaker 2: then whipped up. We got lobster rolls on the King Sawaim.

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Speaker 2: We have pulled pork. We have Philly cheese steaks. We

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00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: have lobster bisk Who has it better than we do?

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00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: No By and Todd always eats like it's his last

773
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: meal before he's executed.

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: You load up when there's multiple items I want to try,

775
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: but you.

776
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: Can always go back out there.

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 6: I could, but it's just easy to have it all

778
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 6: mixed together on the plate. I have to go back.

779
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 6: I could just sitting and get going.

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00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: Okay, well do some damage. Gary and san Antonio, Hi, Gary,

781
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 10: Hey?

783
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: Hey?

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 10: Dan?

785
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 12: And then five eleven seven eight. Uh, I just went

786
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 12: to the doctor. They wouldn't give me that one eighth

787
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 12: of an inch for insurance purposes that anyway, I just

788
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 12: have one question, but let me preface it by saying

789
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 12: that Fritzy is my favorite down Net. However, I'm also

790
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 12: a big fan of Martin. I know Fitty thinks you

791
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 12: can see with all his holy notes impressions and dishping thing,

792
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 12: et cetera. But you have Marvin closing to show every Friday,

793
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 12: and he crushes it. Man, he crushes and at times

794
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 12: the camera pans over to fifteen. You see he's disinterested.

795
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 12: So my question is it, have you ever talked to

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00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 12: your privately since he actual or upset that this should

797
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 12: be his gig, his stick.

798
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Fritzie gets to sing enough. Do I

799
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: really make a disinterested face? I'm my eyes are on

800
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: Marvin because he's singing.

801
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: I think my.

802
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 6: Disinterest is like I just want to get the segment

803
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 6: of what's I can go back to eating. Maybe not

804
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: so much that he sing. I think it does a

805
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 6: great job singing that song.

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00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but this is Marvin. Marvin started singing unprovoked.

807
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: You uh well, you kind of provoke yourself to start saying,

808
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: and we encourage.

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00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 6: Marvin to to do that. At the end, I kind

810
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 6: of put it out there and you guys rather me not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I mean, you sing, You've been up

812
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: on stage singing and you get sing a lot snoreboard

813
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: you sing there too, and you know this is Marvin's

814
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: moment as it should be. Yeah, be a team player.

815
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: That's a team player. Okay, Devin in Cincinnati, Hi Devin,

816
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

817
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 13: DP, thanks for calling me back, man, Yep, just wanted

819
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 13: to first wish you and the Dan it's a happy

820
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 13: Memorial Day weekend. Even though that Ron time segment's gonna

821
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Speaker 13: stick with us for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Man.

823
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Speaker 13: But the reason for my call is that it is

824
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Speaker 13: my oldest brother's thirty second birthday today. His name is Shane.

825
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 13: He's a long time listener, introduced me to the show

826
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 13: like twelve years ago, and it would mean everything to

827
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 13: wish here you guys wishing my happy birthday.

828
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Speaker 2: And it's been It's Shane.

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00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, Shane from Cincinnati.

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00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: Alrighty ready happy Todd, what what'd you learn today?

831
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Speaker 6: That Dylan cut off part of his thumb preparing me Thursday,

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00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: So we'll we take a closer look at any strange

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00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 6: spots we may see on our lock setan.

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Speaker 2: What did you learn today? Our DraftKings pick six lineup?

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Speaker 5: Would uh?

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Speaker 3: We'd win about one hundred and twenty dollars on that

837
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Speaker 3: ten dollars bet, Marvin?

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00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Would you learn Lebron hurt Chris Weber's feelings? Todd, what

839
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: did I learn?

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00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: Money doesn't buy happiness.

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Speaker 2: Look at the sulking one Sodo. Thanks for joining us. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon.