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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our two. We're in Chicago, seventy

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Speaker 1: three degrees today. Break out short sleeve shirts and the

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Speaker 1: volleyball games. It is beautiful here we're getting into you know,

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Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's like a Midwest Malibu everywhere. All right,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Rosillo, Barstool Sports is going to be joining us

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Speaker 1: in about five minutes every Monday at this time. Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good week. Here we go. Where Colin was right, Well, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I had Michigan getting to the Final four and winning it.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they look as good as anybody, you know,

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. The Big Ten is on fire, but

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Speaker 1: when you watch Michigan, they're the only team that checks

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Speaker 1: every box. Dominant defensive center, NBA guys elite passing, three

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Speaker 1: point shooting, best passing team in college basketball in a

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Speaker 1: long time, and the hottest coach on the market Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Probably an easy call where Colin was raw. You know

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Speaker 1: I love the old school coaches. Well, they got kicked

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Speaker 1: to the curb in the Elite eight. They left for

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Speaker 1: the early bracket special. Now it's the young guys. Dan Hurley,

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Speaker 1: I guess qualifies as a bit older. But Tommy Lloyd

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Speaker 1: and Dusty May in one of the matchups. I love

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Speaker 1: my old coaches, but the truth is Dusty May and

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Speaker 1: Tommy Lloyd are elite recruiters and it has paid off.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, I said when the NIL came out,

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Speaker 1: the Big ten's got more money, and I think they've

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Speaker 1: got better coaching. The the SEC was zero and six

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Speaker 1: against the Big ten in the tournament, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of the games weren't close. When Iowa beat Florida, to me,

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Speaker 1: straight natties in football and six and zero in this

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Speaker 1: tournament against the SEC. There is a new sheriff in town.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: I've said tanking is not the number one concern for

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Speaker 1: the NBA, but commissioners freak out when you say the word.

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Speaker 1: And I was reading a column this morning. None of

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Speaker 1: the NBA's three anti tanking proposals would actually create a

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Speaker 1: full stop for tanking. And my take has always been,

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Speaker 1: if you're not going to allow other ways to acquire wemby,

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Speaker 1: then people are going to tank, and people are going

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Speaker 1: to take the fines. NBA owners are billionaires. That is

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Speaker 1: that his glove compartment money. If you're gonna get an

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Speaker 1: all time great play, I mean, look at this draft,

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Speaker 1: gonna allow, like the NFL, the ability to trade anybody anytime,

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Speaker 1: tanking's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I can't get Aj Brown figured out. I would have

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Speaker 1: traded him two years ago. It's a run team. But

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman came out this weekend and said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: he's a member of the Eagles. We love him. Is

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Speaker 1: he just trying to use that as leverage. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Well, I said two games ago, the Knicks are not

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Speaker 1: I've been a defender of Rob Manfred. He gets a

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn said, Gino Smith is our guy. We've got

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent confidence. Oh give me a break. There's

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Speaker 1: not a Jet fan alive who thinks that led the

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Speaker 1: and I said this eight months ago, I would prefer

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches. I do think there's some great young defensive

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Speaker 1: coaches Tmiko Ryans, Mike McDonald. We'll see what Jesse Minter does.

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Speaker 1: But man, they can be tone deaf to offense. Colin

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Speaker 1: Wright calling wrong. So Ryan Rosillo is going to be

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Speaker 1: joining us in a second. Do we have the we

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Speaker 1: have the radio call of Yukon beating Duke.

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Speaker 1: By chance? Guys, let's play this just I haven't heard this.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, gets it into camp Boozer, pooh boozer.

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Speaker 1: Back to Sar Now ahead to Kayden Boozer.

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Speaker 2: And you kind of got a steal.

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Speaker 1: Caravan for Mulleins for free.

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Speaker 5: He hit, he hit the long three pointer, frock the

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: You got us take to be lead. Oh man, Well,

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Speaker 1: somebody that knows stores Connecticut and the state of Connecticut

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Speaker 1: in the Yukon program. Now with Barstool Sports, our friend

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Speaker 1: Ryan Rossillo is joining us. And you know it's just right.

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Speaker 1: You know you can appreciate this. I tell people you

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Speaker 1: have no idea Yukon is the center of basketball. At

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Speaker 1: one point their football team was also going to a

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Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl and they're in a cow past here. If

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Speaker 1: you've never been there, it's hard to explain. What do

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Speaker 1: because he was offered the laker Gig Ryan. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of Dan Hurley? Like his secret sauce? Is

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Speaker 1: it schemes? Is it recruiting? Is it intensity? They just

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Speaker 2: Yeah? This run is ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: I mean the last time they lost when they made

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Speaker 6: it to a final fours two thousand and nine. They're

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Speaker 6: what happens to you win a couple of titles. So

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Speaker 6: sure you've had him on as well. I Mean, the

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Speaker 6: thing all started with Calhoun maybe the eighty eight n

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Speaker 6: it and then ninety they were the one seed when

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Speaker 6: that sent Duke to the final four. So like from

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Speaker 6: ninety on, they didn't make it to a final four

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Speaker 6: But there's you know, you could go to Calhoun's intensity,

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Speaker 6: don't know how to do it. They know what to say,

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Speaker 6: They played with such defensive intensity because they still never

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Speaker 2: So whatever, it is.

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Speaker 6: As crazy as he can be in the sideline, I

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting and I don't like banging on coaches.

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Speaker 1: I think John Shire is very good with schemes and

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Speaker 1: I think Shire is a good coach. But when you

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Speaker 1: When you've got a team that young, you and I

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Speaker 1: play through it. Well, you can't do that with eighteen

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Speaker 1: year olds. Like in March, I thought Shier didn't have

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Speaker 6: I probably was more frustrated with them last year just

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Speaker 6: many times. Now, I think there was a laxness to them.

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Speaker 6: swing it back to the top and that's what we're

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Speaker 6: going to start our offense. And when the defense knows

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Speaker 6: be some intention. There has to be a better angle

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Speaker 6: on that. And that's on players. And in this spot

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Speaker 6: with Cadan Blizzard, like he's a freshman, he sees two

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Speaker 6: is this some fundamental flaw with John Shire's approach. You

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Speaker 6: could say that maybe be nice to have a senior

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Speaker 6: I ticked the league and all, like I talk to everybody,

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Speaker 1: I'll give J Mack credit. He said that last week.

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Speaker 1: and Lebron and Ruey and Luca they're and Ayton. They're

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Speaker 6: for the majority of people out there to pick the

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Speaker 6: Lakers against them, even if the seeds are off.

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Speaker 1: By the way, ere either got your arm in a

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Speaker 1: slang because you benched too much, or you've got a

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Speaker 1: camera and you're just sight seeing Manhattan Beach. What is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that thing there?

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you saw that the Louis

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Speaker 6: Vuitton summer line drop. I'm sure you get the alerts too,

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Speaker 6: but no, it's it's a sling. We did some weighted

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Speaker 6: wide grip pull ups yesterday at our Equinox out here,

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Speaker 6: and the very top I felt something I've never felt before.

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Speaker 6: But we're going to be back and shout out to

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Speaker 6: Mike Greenberg backing better than ever.

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Speaker 2: I'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're not a young guy. Stuff breaks,

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Speaker 1: trust me, fifty five. Stuff starts breaking. Risillo it's great

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Speaker 1: seeing barstool sports. He's on fire at Ryan Rossolo, Ryan A.

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Speaker 2: Rissillo.

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Speaker 1: Good see anybody, Yeah, I good, see Colin, thanks man,

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Speaker 1: he does great work, does great stuff. Somebody who's opinion?

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Speaker 1: I trust Polas see j Mack. You're out there hooping

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Speaker 1: it and you know Stilla is wearing a sling and

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Speaker 1: was limping into work. I'm out here having red striped beers,

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Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life, living life to

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Speaker 1: the fullest.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe. So he's doing pullups and he threw

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Speaker 3: out his should. Poor guy, by the way, he used

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Speaker 3: to go to my gym. I'm gonna text him here

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Speaker 3: and he say he's jacked.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, you know I'm just cut up. You like to

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Speaker 8: think I'm ripped.

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Speaker 3: He's actually jacked. That guy lifts a lot of weights.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: I have seen Ron.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to stand next to him in like

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Speaker 3: the team picture when you win the championship because he

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Speaker 3: just dwarfs you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. Well, a lot of guys dwarf you,

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Speaker 1: but that's not that's another segment.

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Speaker 8: You love taking jabs everybody.

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Speaker 2: You're the blog.

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Speaker 1: Party of Talk show. Oh you get on you'll get

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Speaker 1: on heaters, but you get dinged up a lot.

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Speaker 8: So I get to the show and then we go

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Speaker 8: to the super Bowl. Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 1: All right? Great stuff, Ryan Day, Ohio state coach. Who

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Speaker 1: what do they have? Thirteen guys gonna get drafted in

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Speaker 1: the first three rounds. We'll be joining us. We're live

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm telling you I've talked more college basketball in

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Speaker 1: the last two years, and I've always said this, it's

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Speaker 1: not my job to cover your team or your sport.

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Speaker 1: It's your job to be interesting. I've covered more baseball

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Speaker 1: in the last three years, I've covered more college basketball

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Speaker 1: and college football. I thought last year's college football, this

497
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Speaker 1: is what the nil's done. That I love is that

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Speaker 1: we had about a fifteen year stretch in college basketball.

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Speaker 1: If you were any good, you were a freshman, If

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Speaker 1: you stayed in college three years, you were an NBA player,

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Speaker 1: maybe you go play overseas. Now Michigan's got five star guys,

502
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Speaker 1: young guys, old guys, and the quality of the basketball.

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Speaker 1: Watch Michigan pass and shoot. I mean again, you go back,

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Speaker 1: you go back to Duke Butler. Was that fifteen years ago?

505
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Speaker 1: Duke Butler shot thirty nine percent and then then Butler

506
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Speaker 1: played Yukon the next year they shot thirty one percent.

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Speaker 1: Nobody could hit open jumpers. It was awful. It was

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Speaker 1: unwatchable garbage. Now the ratings are exploding because the quality

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Speaker 1: is better. I said this with college football watching Indiana

510
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Speaker 1: and Miami, like the ability to go and get for

511
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Speaker 1: a good program with a great coach, a really high

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Speaker 1: end quarterback. I mean, college football is shoe was always

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Speaker 1: it was as fun to watch as the quarterback play

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Speaker 1: was well. Now, all these big brands can have young

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Speaker 1: five star players, but they can go get a four

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Speaker 1: star quarterback from a mid major. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: Indiana and the Miami Hurricanes, I thought that was the

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Speaker 1: closest I'd ever watched a college football game that looked

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Speaker 1: like an NFL game. The play calling much more sophisticated,

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Speaker 1: more motion, more sets. I like college, but I like

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Speaker 1: high end college, and nils jet fueled the biggest program.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're watching Illinois and their pace, that's an

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Speaker 1: NBA pace. You watch Michigan's passing, that's NBA passing. So

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: love college, I like excellent. I got nothing against public

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Speaker 1: golf courses. But if you're giving me a choice, I'd

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Speaker 1: take Augusta right. That's why I don't mind dynasties. I

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Speaker 1: want great athletes playing alongside other great athletes. I'm watching

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's defense last year. You got like five NFL

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Speaker 1: guys first second round.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This

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Speaker 2: is the headline news.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's work at some NFL draft quickly.

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Speaker 3: Colin for Nando Mendoza presumptive number one pick less than

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Speaker 3: four weeks away from the draft, and according to Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 3: Mendoza has been getting to work with Brian Griasi to

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Speaker 3: install Clint Kubiak's offense, and Jeremiah added that Mendoza is

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Speaker 3: full speed ahead on making sure he's up to speed

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Speaker 3: when he's eventually drafted by the Raiders. I'm sure some

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Speaker 3: of this is just Mendoza geeking out on being a pro,

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Speaker 3: but I think some of it is probably this nonsense that,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, maybe they go get Kirk Cousins to start

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Speaker 3: and Mendoza will come in when he's ready, which I

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Speaker 3: think is total nonsense.

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Speaker 8: But I like Mendoza. He's ready to go. This is

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Speaker 8: not some young kid who's inexperienced three.

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Speaker 3: Year college starter. Let's go get him under center week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is why I think he is.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we play pay so

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Speaker 1: much attention to the physical part of quarterback play. But

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Speaker 1: given example, Aaron Rodgers no longer runs, Aaron Rodgers isn't

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Speaker 1: that committed in the offseason, but Aaron Rodgers, just on

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Speaker 1: intellect and situational excellence, goes to the Steelers and they

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Speaker 1: went from an awful red zone offense to one of

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Speaker 1: the top five or six in the league. How they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a top five a line, They didn't have

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Speaker 1: a top receiving corps. So much of this sport is

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Speaker 1: above the shoulders. And yes, it's great to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: a big arm and be able to move, But Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson's not winning playoff games. You know, I'm not blaming anybody,

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Speaker 1: but if you start looking at what works in this league,

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Speaker 1: it's great offensive coaching, it's total commitment. It is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just doing stuff off the field. And we I

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Speaker 1: mean again, Drake May's got great physical tools. Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: great physical tools. But even a Mahomes, if you give

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Speaker 1: them no run game in a back offensive line can

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Speaker 1: get walloped. And I so when I look at Mendoza,

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Speaker 1: everybody's like, well he's a little stev he's not that mobile.

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Speaker 1: All I know is he's big, has great ballplay placement,

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Speaker 1: and is like Brady obsessed with the sport. I'm good

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a Pro Bowl level quarterback if he

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Speaker 1: gets any coaching.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree, And I'm sure some people's heads exploded when

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Speaker 3: you said, Lamar Jackson's not winning playoff games.

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Speaker 8: I just did a quick check. Three and five in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs, so man's accurate. You're no, You're right. Lamar

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Speaker 8: benet in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I love him, and he's the most mobile quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the history of the sports. Yes, that's great, but it's

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Speaker 1: my whole point is, Josh Allen never been to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's the greatest athlete that's ever played. Quarterback

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Speaker 1: John Elway before he hit a run, game was getting

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Speaker 1: blown out in Super Bowls. You can talk about all

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Speaker 1: the physical gifts. Are you obsessed my football? Do you

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Speaker 1: have the right offensive coach who lets you play but

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Speaker 1: has structured so much of this sport is before the

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Speaker 1: game starts? And that thought to say that Lamar and

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and John Elway weren't committed, but they're all

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Speaker 1: ridiculously hyper athletic, and Josh can't even Josh and Lamar

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Speaker 1: can't get the Super Bowls. And I would argue that

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Speaker 1: the two most talented quarterbacks in the last ten years.

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Speaker 8: You know who did get to a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Small guy, brainiac, athletic brock Perty who's five and two

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Just thought i'd tossed that in there.

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Speaker 3: Since you love dinging him, all right, let's move on

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Speaker 3: to a quarterback who's won a Super Bowl, Matthew Stafford Colin.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have this discussion every year, is

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Speaker 3: Stafford going to come back? How long is he going

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Speaker 3: to stay? So as of right now, he's very excited

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Speaker 3: about this Rams team, and people are saying, well, maybe

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Speaker 3: Saffa could stay from multiple years or does he walk

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Speaker 3: away after winning the Super Bowl? At so far this year,

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Speaker 3: here's McVeigh talking about all things Stafford.

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Speaker 8: In the Rams.

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Speaker 10: That's always the great challenge is is you want to

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Speaker 10: make sure that you're maximizing the opportunity you have with him.

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Speaker 10: Will also not be a knight to a I'm hopeful

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Speaker 10: to be with the Rams for a long time, and

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Speaker 10: you know he's going to be able to play as

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Speaker 10: long as he's able to whether that's one two more,

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Speaker 10: who knows. He might, you know, be one of those

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Speaker 10: guys that he lays laid into his forties and I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't have a problem with that. But those are dialogues

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Speaker 10: and discussions that we have a lot, and it's always

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Speaker 10: figuring out that balance of you know, continuing to build

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Speaker 10: and take advantage of what a unique player you have

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Speaker 10: while also not being naive to eventually we are not

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Speaker 10: going to have the luxury of having him as our guy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think when they made the Trent McDuffie move

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Speaker 1: and had to give up multiple draft picks, they told

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Speaker 1: you because I thought they would draft a backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: in this draft, but the Trent McDuffie move told you

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Speaker 1: we're going all in. That That tells me Stafford's coming

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Speaker 1: back for two more years minimum when that Trent McDuffie move,

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Speaker 1: Because if he wasn't, what you would do is you

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Speaker 1: would keep your draft capital. You would like build a

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Speaker 1: fortress around Stafford, but build a team ready to move

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Speaker 1: on from Stafford. You're giving up draft capital. You know

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Speaker 1: you're going to have to pay Stafford a lot. McDuffie

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Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl getter. That to me tell you

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Speaker 1: Stafford's around for years.

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Speaker 3: Okay, look at those stats on the screen. Stafford aging

633
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Speaker 3: like fine wine. Then again, in his twenties, he was

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Speaker 3: in the Detroit Lions, one of the most losing organizations

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Speaker 3: in professional sports history. You go to the rams of

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Speaker 3: McVeigh and all of a sudden, you're cooking seven and

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Speaker 3: three in the playoffs. They are they have the best

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Speaker 3: team super bowls at SOFI. Well, I mean, listen, everything's

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Speaker 3: lining up for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Look at go look ahead. This is an interesting think piece.

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Speaker 1: Stafford wins a Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers Stafford, who had

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Speaker 1: a time career all time, you go to Stafford. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I think your opinion because Roger Aaron didn't start

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Speaker 1: well and hasn't necessarily finished well. Stafford went to a

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Speaker 1: losing organization, but he could end up if he plays

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Speaker 1: this year and next, he could end up with the

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Speaker 1: last eight years of his career being Pro Bowl every

648
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Speaker 1: single one of them, with a great playoff record, better

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Speaker 1: than Aaron, and more Super Bowls than Aaron. I keep

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Speaker 1: saying this, no player in pro football outside of maybe

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, but no great quarterback in my lifetime can

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Speaker 1: literally flip the narrative and go from the twentieth best

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Speaker 1: ever to like top ten with the Super Bowl. Because

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Speaker 1: we all know we've said this for years. He may

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Speaker 1: throw the best ball in the league.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: So Rogers' peak, where he was collecting MVPs was amazing,

658
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Speaker 3: but Stafford's been more consistent and I think this matters

659
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Speaker 3: Colin the whole locker room stuff.

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Speaker 8: Stafford is beloved everywhere he goes. People like him.

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Speaker 3: He's a nice guy. Rogers is a little less of that.

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Speaker 3: I don't if Rogers is watching this, he's probably like,

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Speaker 3: damn it, I'm coming back.

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Speaker 8: But you're not winning.

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Speaker 3: You're not winning a super Bowl with the Steelers, You're

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Speaker 3: not even contending. So yeah, I would probably agree with you.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you're sharpening some off season takes there.

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Speaker 3: Huh final Sorry to the UFL. Colin Week one in

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Speaker 3: the books, How about this one? We had our first

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Speaker 3: four point field goal, a sixty yarder.

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Speaker 8: Here's the call from defenders, Blackhawks.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a sixty yard field goal, folks.

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Speaker 4: It'll be for four points as part of the new

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Speaker 4: rules in the UFL.

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Speaker 2: The Crane got it up. They scored four.

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Speaker 4: The defenders take a four to nothing lead on the

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Speaker 4: league's first sixty yard field goal for four points.

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Speaker 1: Well, it'd be hard to do that in the NFL

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Speaker 1: because so many guys can now fifty seven. Because I

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Speaker 1: don't know what happened. Maybe it's they've changed the football

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think that's what it is fifty

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Speaker 1: six yard field goals. They don't feel automatic what they

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Speaker 1: do for the Cowboys, but a fifty six yard field

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Speaker 1: goals feel like, well, he won't be short. I know

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Speaker 1: that for sure. He may be why it left or right,

686
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Speaker 1: but you won't be short at fifty six yards.

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Speaker 3: So you talk about this all the time about baseball's

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Speaker 3: changing things and making an eciting and why doesn't he

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Speaker 3: and if I'll just go to this, this is exciting

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Speaker 3: sixty yards. So it's interesting the quarterback took the sack

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Speaker 3: to play before this and they got knocked back a

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Speaker 3: few yards, so it went from like fifty seven or

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Speaker 3: three to sixty verse four, and it's almost like it's

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Speaker 3: not the you take a sack on third down and

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Speaker 3: field goal, right.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting? What is interesting is that the strategy. What

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Speaker 1: if you what if it's a three point game late

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Speaker 1: UFL and you really you feel like, listen, we got

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys banged up. The only way we

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Speaker 1: got to win this thing now, and you take a

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Speaker 1: four yard loss to have a potential four point kick.

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Speaker 1: So you're literally in front all you don't do this,

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Speaker 1: you are planning a play to go backwards. That that

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Speaker 1: will absolutely happen this season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's cool. Anyways, congrats to the

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Speaker 3: battle Hawks. I'm sorry, BattleHawks.

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Speaker 1: Well, is this in the NFL? Twelve field goals last

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Speaker 1: year in the NFL made of sixty plus yards? I

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00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: can remember forever Tom Dempsey of the Saints. I mean

710
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Speaker 1: it was in the Guinness Book of World Records my

711
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: parents got me when I was a kid. I swear

712
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Speaker 1: to god he held that record for it seemed like decades.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't he a toe kicker?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, the straight ahead?

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.

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Speaker 7: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 7: The Herd weekdays in noon eastern nine am Pacific on

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: We got a huge baseball doubleheader coming your way on

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Speaker 3: FS one. First at six eastern, catch Elie Dela Cruz

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Speaker 3: in the reds Versus the Pirates. Then at nine thirty,

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Speaker 3: it's the Giants and Padres in an NL West showdown.

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Speaker 8: Catch it all tonight on FS one.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the reds umpire, C B. Buckner did not

728
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Speaker 1: have a particularly great Red Sox Reds game. The ABS

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00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: system has been introduced by baseball. Now one of the

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Speaker 1: great advantages baseball has they can experiment with stuff as

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Speaker 1: all of you know in the you know, in the

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Speaker 1: minor leagues. They did it with a pitch clock for years.

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Speaker 1: I tell the story. I sat on a Delta flight

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Speaker 1: once next to a general manager of the Richmond baseball

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Speaker 1: team and we talked pitchclock for like two hours, and

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Speaker 1: I remember he said it's gonna shave twenty minutes off

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Speaker 1: a game. And it shaved just about twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: minutes off a game. Well, the ABS system gives you

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. It gives you the challenge, it

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Speaker 1: gives you the reveal, and it gives you this crazy

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Speaker 1: reaction from the fans. And so I want to play

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Speaker 1: and we didn't have to do a lot of editing here.

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Speaker 1: I want to play you what happened during the Red

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Speaker 1: Sox Reds game. Suarez is the batter for Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 1: let's play.

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Speaker 2: It look good.

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Speaker 6: Challenge Imania's half of the helmets runners.

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Speaker 8: All hole.

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Speaker 2: Batter's challenging the picture. ABS power to my team. Oh

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Speaker 2: no telling us all the continues.

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Speaker 6: Now the two two hold straight three ten the.

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00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: Helmet again, he says, it's off.

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: The plate away that's challenging the picture.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: With the loudest cheers of the game, the runs.

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Speaker 5: Of it to homeless come off.

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Speaker 2: Back to the challenges.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny watching baseball, the old stodgie

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00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: sport and their commissioner. Like any business, you would tweak

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00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: it. It doesn't matter if you own a tech company, doesn't

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00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: matter what you could own a feed store. You got

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00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: to listen to the consumer. Ratings were down, attendance was down,

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Speaker 1: the game was too plotting like great baseball. People like

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00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 1: Tom Berducci a few years ago is like, the game

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Speaker 1: is hard to watch, and I do this for a living.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you've always got your kind of old

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00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: school people that don't want changes. But baseball has made

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00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: about six changes, and yet the NBA, which is viewed

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Speaker 1: as the progressive league, won't make like really strong changes

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Speaker 1: to load management, the repetition, the kind of homogeneous three

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00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: point game where everybody shoots threes, you get seventy a game. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean baseball is a great example of you have

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Speaker 1: this great sport that America loves, and the numbers and

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Speaker 1: the attendants told you it was just increasingly plotting and

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00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: difficult to watch. And it's just pitch clock, abs system,

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00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: ban the defensive shift, same great game, much more quickly.

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Speaker 1: College football, and I love college football. It got to

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00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: a point about five years ago games were lasting four

779
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: and a half hours, and you're like, guys, you stop

780
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: the clock too much. Speed it up. People. You may

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00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: want to watch your Buckeyes for four and a half hours,

782
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: but if you don't have an allegiance, you're not gonna

783
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: get casual fans. You can't ask people to watch two

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Speaker 1: football games and it takes nine and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is great, and it really you know,

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Speaker 1: people like it'll make the umpires look unqualified. It's the opposite.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they're right half the time on the challenges,

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00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: half the time they're right, and when they're wrong, very infrequently,

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Speaker 1: is it ever more than an inch, it's it's just

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Speaker 1: on the edge. So it makes me think, First of all,

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Speaker 1: major league hitters have an unbelievably keen understanding of the

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Speaker 1: plate and the dimensions of it. I mean, they can

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Speaker 1: feel it like that. Just that's missing, and.

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Speaker 2: That was rare.

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Speaker 1: We're one batter one umpire you got, you know, back

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Speaker 1: to back. But it shows me how the batters are

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Speaker 1: and it shows me that by and large, the average

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Speaker 1: umpire is really good. And the other thing is one

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Speaker 1: of the things that legalized gambling is done in the country,

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Speaker 1: and it was you know, I think it was pretty predictable.

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: Is that anytime somebody loses a game, No, it's the officials.

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00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I saw Tennessee fans yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Oh are the.

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00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee could not beat Michigan if they played a dozen times.

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Speaker 1: You're not in the same class. The coach is better

806
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: at Michigan, a much better passing team that got better

807
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: NBA bigs. Michigan is twenty points better than Tennessee if

808
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: they played in Knoxville. Like, they're just better. But it's like, oh,

809
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: baseball is eliminating this because the one thing you always

810
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: complained about was, oh the balls and strikes. That's over.

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Speaker 1: Now it's on you. If you don't pat your head,

812
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: that's on you. That's your don't blame the umpire, that's

813
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: your batter not being quick. So tech, learn it, live it,

814
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: love it Tech. Now we're gonna have a thirty eight

815
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: percent unemployment rate with AI. So We're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: lot more time to watch baseball, is the way I.

817
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: Look at it. J.

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Speaker 1: Mackey, May guardians, that's what The.

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Speaker 8: Thirty eight percent unemployment rate is terrifying. We are in

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Speaker 8: a depression.

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Speaker 1: If that's happening, Dystopian outcomes here they come.

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Speaker 3: Boy, this this show turned dark real quick as we

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Speaker 3: head into the Tower hour.

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Speaker 1: Holy hell, oh my god. I don't even United States

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Speaker 1: men's national team. J. Mac Oh my god.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna talk about the Belgium game.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, how about we talk about the ridiculous uniforms