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Speaker 1: my amazing fiance of five years proposed I am a

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Speaker 2: Boo.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from trying my best on

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Speaker 1: the r slash okay storytime subreddit, so some meet your

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Speaker 1: stories there. So there are so many reasons why I

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Speaker 1: wanted the month of April. Nice just some examples. My

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Speaker 1: My fiance and I met in April. His favorite month

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Speaker 1: Spring is also my favorite season. What month is in spring?

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Speaker 1: to get married next year for personal reasons suspicious, which

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Speaker 1: and so we set the date. I reached out to

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Speaker 2: April could be east of Sunday, east a Sunday. Well

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Speaker 1: I asked her if this is a big deal. Neither

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Speaker 1: they celebrate all the generic holidays but don't even go

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Speaker 3: So who told?

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Speaker 1: mother in law, mother in law. Yeah. I reached out

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Speaker 1: for it. Why can't you just tell us the religion?

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Speaker 1: It's got to be Easter.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Easter.

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Speaker 3: People do big ceremonies on Easaster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people have weddings on Easter.

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Speaker 2: It's one, it's for sure Easter because they said Sunday, yep, two,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could go to like there's like six am

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Speaker 3: What the heck is he's the one that doesn't want

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Speaker 2: Neither want to change.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're the a hole for having a

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Speaker 1: Diane says, you can set your own wedding date, not

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Speaker 1: celebrating love and the couple. Shyl Little Rider, thank you

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Speaker 1: Vicky business. Ooh, vicky sticky. But let's keep going into

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Speaker 1: this update. After sleepless night and reading over three hundred comments,

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Speaker 2: Okay, the ball was.

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Speaker 1: Completely in his court. I already had another wedding venue

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Speaker 1: So we came up with three lame, three game plans,

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Speaker 1: we already put five thousand dollars down, but looking at

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Speaker 1: And those are the options, which will you choose?

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Speaker 1: But yes, options option one, I'm thinking your shrek now

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Speaker 4: I think option two there's also a possibility of asking

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Speaker 1: Which they are going to try to do, but they

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Speaker 1: Red flat?

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Speaker 2: I did that all the time.

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Speaker 1: but we do have another story to end out this episode,

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Speaker 3: Apparently I am a hostage of the worm Army. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you thought you were gonna leave?

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Speaker 3: No, it's the warm Army.

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Speaker 1: Wait did we already add of thirty minutes? WHOA? So

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Speaker 1: Do you want to read some donos, Sophia while I.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can scroll up on the donors?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 1: So keep on.

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Speaker 3: Good to meet you. Name is Alex. I was looking

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Speaker 2: He is Louise.

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Speaker 4: I think my fiance's cousin child is mine, but I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fiance is Sarah twenty seven female.

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Speaker 4: I is Persian and I have been together for three years.

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Speaker 4: He's actually my first serious girlfriend since middle school.

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Speaker 3: WHOA.

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Speaker 4: I will honestly admit I've been a complete piece of

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Speaker 2: So this was enemies to lovers. He bullied her.

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Speaker 3: And I guess that's all it takes, just bullies super healthy.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, I totally changed. I kept asking until

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Speaker 3: I heard a woman love a good begging. That was

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, this weekend her. This weekend, her cousin and

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Speaker 4: He immediately stares at me a bit wide eyed, and

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Speaker 4: I can't help but think she looks familiar.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh and sam uh, Well, what we know right

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Speaker 2: now is Op was freaking promiscuous back in the day, and.

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Speaker 3: Now he's kind He was kind of like.

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Speaker 2: Ladies, what is what is?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Means? Like that means you get around? Do we already say?

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Speaker 1: Christin Foyle hat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, oh my god, yeah, okay, it just means

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Speaker 1: Well, I know what the promiscuous means, but like, like, like,

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Speaker 3: Define as pro He admitted to using woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's a promiscuous. That's that's being a dick.

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Speaker 5: Well he admitted to both in addition to using them.

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Speaker 5: But what is there were a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: I want to know everyone's definition of what they think

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Speaker 1: promiscuous is.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a charged word. Well, anyway, I want to know.

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Speaker 1: Your answers in the chat. How many bodies.

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Speaker 2: He's meaning, Hey, he's meaning.

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Speaker 1: Promiscuous means let me tell you.

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Speaker 2: He's meeting his girlfriend's cousin for the first time, and

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Speaker 2: she just her eyes went wide. That's all we know.

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Speaker 3: She immediately stares at op a bit wide eyed, and

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Speaker 3: I can't help but oh god, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, he doesn't even recognize her.

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Speaker 1: That's what promiscuous if you don't RecG is a great definietly,

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Speaker 1: if you don't remember everyone that you've hooked up with.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So we're all being introduced to each other,

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Speaker 4: I don't know This boy looks like a carbon copy

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Speaker 2: That's how parent. Oh no, that's what promiscuous me.

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Speaker 4: That is what when you have potential children.

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Speaker 2: Potential children, and you don't recognize either of them.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I'm just getting caught up.

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Speaker 5: Wait, wait, Sam, he's meeting his girlfriend's cousin who he

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Speaker 5: hoped up with. No, he doesn't remember her. Yes, necessary,

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Speaker 5: But he's looking at this kid and be like, that

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Speaker 3: And I used to look. And he's looking at the

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Speaker 2: And she's also wide eyed at him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all signs pointing.

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Speaker 2: All right, that is what prom Oh boy.

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Speaker 4: So I'm suddenly starting to remember that I took oh wow, okay,

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Speaker 5: A wait, why because he's probably like it fuels bitter.

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Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, yeah, you're just saying I'm clean. We

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, he's like, I don't have STDs.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wanted to have him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we might be about to find out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So I'm just a sweating, nervous mess for

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Speaker 3: I think Lauren was.

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Speaker 4: Visiting Sarah the weekend I took her home. He probably

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Speaker 4: the same bar that night. Sarah asked me if I

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Speaker 4: I didn't go to work yesterday and today and just

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Speaker 4: Lauren obviously isn't saying anything. I have no clue if

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Speaker 4: about possibly being a father. I'm ninety five percent sure

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Speaker 4: this kid is mine. Nothing looks looked nothing like the husband.

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Speaker 4: This is a movie, this is this is a a

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Speaker 3: Oh so, Sam, you are you three years with a girl?

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Speaker 3: You're you're at dinner.

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Speaker 1: Never's happened, never happened.

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Speaker 4: Hypothetically two years rest, a kid that looks exactly like

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Speaker 4: this going like what this?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh man, uh I would would I uh.

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Speaker 2: Oh uh yeah, I don't think you would do that.

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Speaker 1: I would say oh no. I would say like, hey, like,

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Speaker 1: have we met before?

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Speaker 4: Well man, But at this point, at this point, you're

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Speaker 4: remembering that you did hook up with her and that

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Speaker 4: most likely this is your child. Are you going the

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Speaker 4: just putting it all out there at the dinner?

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Speaker 2: You turn the kid, you go, hey, bud, you look

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Speaker 2: a lot like me.

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Speaker 3: Everybody want to toss ball?

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Speaker 1: Okay. I would probably sit through the awkward dinner. Then

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Speaker 1: I would deparately talk to both of them. So I

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Speaker 1: talk to girlfriend first.

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Speaker 2: Really, I think absolutely, talk to girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: You have to.

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Speaker 2: You gotta talk to your god. Like imagine he goes

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Speaker 2: and talks to Lauren first and then the girlfriend. Well,

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Speaker 2: yeah you can. You can be tactical. But the thing

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Speaker 1: Can be.

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Speaker 2: See it's so quick because Lauren might go to her

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Speaker 2: cousin and say, oh my god, that guy I hooked

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Speaker 2: up with, this is his son.

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Speaker 3: Oh so you don't think Lauren notes.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm saying that Lauren probably knows this is

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Speaker 2: found him again.

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Speaker 1: You need what you need to relationship be okay, you

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Speaker 1: need to get ahead of the story.

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Speaker 3: Yes, by talking to your partners.

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Speaker 1: I talked to your partner first, and then I agree

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Speaker 1: you talked to the cousin.

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Speaker 5: So what do you say, Yeah, hey, open it up.

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Speaker 5: You know, I definitely had sex with your cousin. I

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Speaker 5: definitely had spicy time with your old cousin.

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Speaker 2: That is my chas my kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you say, like, hey, remember how I was like

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Speaker 1: pretty promiscuous to the point where I don't remember all

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Speaker 1: I think I remember you're hooking up with your cousin

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Speaker 1: not that obviously she didn't leave much of a mark,

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Speaker 1: so like, don't worry about, yeah, having feelings for her

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Speaker 1: because this is.

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Speaker 2: It's from it's a cross post. It's not from one

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeahs op.

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Speaker 3: He didn't do technically anything wrong.

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Speaker 4: No, he wasn't had a child that he didn't know

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Speaker 4: that it was her cousin. So there's it was past life,

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Speaker 4: so he can be an open communication.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think you won't.

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00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: You doesn't have time to fine open. What do you say?

446
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: I think I hooked up with her and I think

447
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: that's my child.

448
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: Yeah you say that, Yeah, yeah, you have to say that.

449
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I think I'm going to have

450
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: a conversation with your cousin. You have any advice for me?

451
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: And then you go.

452
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: First I feel like you got to deal with the

453
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: emotional fallout.

454
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: That's her one.

455
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: And then after I saw like part two. Also, everyone

456
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: in chat is saying, I look nervous. I definitely don't

457
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: have a kid out there. I'm not the whore that

458
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: you think I am. Looking at me like.

459
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: One word, balie, that was one person.

460
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: Fine, Australia.

461
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's still one person. It was a hordpping in.

462
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: Lady has no All right, I finished the story. Yeah, okay, okay,

463
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: Actually haven't answer a question. You're you're the cousin.

464
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm the cousin. What do you?

465
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 5: I'm a woman, you are a woman and an all universe. Okay,

466
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 5: so here's my question. Here's my question. Op is promiscuous,

467
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 5: didn't recognize cousin. Cousin also doesn't seem to recognize him.

468
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 5: Then she would have brought something up. Let's talk about that.

469
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 5: Let's talk.

470
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

471
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: The question for Sophia is you are the cousin. You

472
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: you're not one hundred percent sure that this is the

473
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 4: father that you hooked up with him, or the father,

474
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: or that he's the father of your child.

475
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: You're the child, you're not sure.

476
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm casting you. Chad is the is op,

477
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm the cousin.

478
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: You're my child, I'm your child?

479
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: And so what this doesn't helping? Okay, So let's say, okay,

480
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 5: let's say you're the cousin. You guys are all bad,

481
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: you're the cousin, and you walk away from that situation.

482
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 5: Should you have remembered that you got. Are you assuming

483
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 5: that she remembers definitely remember? So then why didn't she

484
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: say anything?

485
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna.

486
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: She gave birth.

487
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Sophia, you're not sure if the person is a

488
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: past partner or if.

489
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: This child is his, but you're like, probably are you saying?

490
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

491
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: I don't say anything, regardless of whether I know or not.

492
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 2: I don't say anything. At the party, I hes my

493
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: cousin and I say, hey.

494
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: Girly, like, you don't think cousin is texting Opie's girlfriend

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: after that dinner.

496
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: No, I think she is, That's what I'm saying. I

497
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: would text her if I was the cousin. I would

498
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: text my cousin immediately.

499
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: She doesn't, and she doesn't have his numbers.

500
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: His numbers, so how could you? And I want to

501
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: approach him at the party?

502
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: I feel like that is what would happen. So the

503
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: fact that it hasn't is confusing to me.

504
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: How long as it passed the meeting, well, we.

505
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: Don't, Okay finish the story, so op says, do I

506
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: just shut up? I never cheated on Sarah, obviously, but

507
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: she knows how much of a player I was, and

508
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 4: it took her a while to get past my number.

509
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 4: I don't know how she reacts if she knows I

510
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 4: knocked up her cousin years before knowing her.

511
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: This is this is your Sarah. Who's Sarah? How do

512
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: you react to finding out that I'm opie?

513
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of like your situation that is happening tomorrow

514
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: with your dinner party, except like kid, Okay.

515
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: If I was Sarah, it's just like Okay.

516
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: This is vain and superficial about Sarah and I love

517
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 4: her to death, but she absolutely hates if something is

518
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: considered trashy or low class. I honestly think it's possible

519
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: she'd leave me if I knocked up her cousin. I

520
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: can't lose her. She's literally the best thing that's ever

521
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: happened to me.

522
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: And there is an update. Okay.

523
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: After three days of staying at home and feeling sick

524
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: to my stomach with nervousness about this, I finally told

525
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: Sarah last night after my last post. Okay, so thank

526
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: you so much, you slash own crew three three ninety four,

527
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: because that post gave me the push to spill my guts.

528
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: As embarrassing as it is, I cried from beginning to

529
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: end telling Sarah and pretty much told her I don't

530
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 4: want to live without her.

531
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: WHOA.

532
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: She held my hands in bed and patiently listened about

533
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: how I recognized Lauren remembered her night now. Seeing that

534
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: kid mentally broke me because I saw my future with

535
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: Sarah jeopardized as soon as I saw him. She told me,

536
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: she's upset I didn't tell her as soon as we

537
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: left her parents place, and to never keep something like

538
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: this from her again.

539
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: What do we always say? What do we always say?

540
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Secret?

541
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: Don't keep secrets? So long? Do you keep a secret?

542
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: The worst the situation?

543
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: Secrets? She told me.

544
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: Yep, she was upset to never keep something like this

545
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: from her again, but she understood I was scared. She

546
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: said she's not leaving me because I never betrayed her

547
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: in the last three years we've been together. And we'll

548
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 4: figure this out too. And she said she'll reach out

549
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 4: to Lauren herself and figure out what's going on because

550
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: she's been with her husband for ten years now and.

551
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: It is.

552
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Oh see, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

553
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: She would have said, she would have said something. Why

554
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: would she not? Darn?

555
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: Okay, and if she's my one night stand from years ago,

556
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: we definitely cheated. We then had an even more uncomfortable

557
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: conversation about the type of things I've done in my

558
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: past and wanted to know if there's any more surprises.

559
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: She needs to be ready for that. She knows I

560
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: was promiscuous and a bit of reckless idiot, but we

561
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 4: kind of swept everything under the rug when we get

562
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: We got together because we both agreed we wanted a

563
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: fresh start, and after this fiasco, that might have been

564
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: a bad idea. So she wants to know everything in

565
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: detail now, but we can have that talk another time.

566
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: I don't feel great about this, but I'll deal with

567
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: this hurdle when it comes up. Sarah has been home

568
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: with me trying to get in touch with Lauren since

569
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: morning and has been getting completely stonewalled. Finally, Lauren texted her. Oh,

570
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: Lauren texted her let it go please?

571
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: Oh my God, which is like this is movie.

572
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: To Ope, of course, who like this is his child?

573
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is with the one with the one sentence text,

574
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: let it go, let it go?

575
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: Forget it? Can we keep reading?

576
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm guessing you just want to know what I'm guessing

577
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm guessing Lauren realized I told Sarah everything. We don't

578
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 4: know how. I don't know how to proceed from here

579
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: on out. We're deciding to just respect her wishes and

580
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 4: not pursue this further.

581
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 3: Lauren. Wow. Lauren also just changed her response to our

582
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: wedding invite to a no show.

583
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: I wonder why, really.

584
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Quick, really quick? Is Op and Sarah Ope's wife fiance

585
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: the a hole for not telling the husband?

586
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: You gotta tell him what I think. I think it's

587
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: a I think it's a not your talent.

588
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 4: Really, I just think it's not your relationship, it's not

589
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: your responsiblity.

590
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: Sarah's probably close to the somewhat close to the husband. Yeah,

591
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: they've been married for ten years.

592
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, if you do

593
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 4: want to see your son and establish that type of

594
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: relationship and his.

595
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: Buddies, yeah, I think it's it's yeah, it's definitely his kid.

596
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: You.

597
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: The thing is, I think I think Op needs to

598
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: talk to Lauren and basically say.

599
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: Like tell him or or Sarah tell.

600
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: Him, or I will because this is my son.

601
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: Well, the question is does does he want does he

602
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: want to?

603
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Also?

604
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: Is that like, oh, you can't imagine how he's feeling.

605
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: But is that the best thing for the son?

606
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: Like, well, it's the truth, it's.

607
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like it's I think it's but.

608
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 5: It's a little bit like an adopted like a bio,

609
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: which I should always tell me out of nowhere. But

610
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 5: that's yeah, whoa, because they're going to find out how to.

611
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Take custody of the kid. But I think the I

612
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: don't think the kid actually needs to really.

613
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, Like, you're five years old and

614
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: from this point, since all you remember, that person's.

615
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: Your dad, but it's it's better to find out at

616
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: five years old rather than twenty twenty five fifty.

617
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's going to come out stories. It always

618
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: comes out.

619
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: There going to talk about is there is a there

620
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: is an age appropriate way to reveal this information to

621
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: the kid. I think the order of operations though, is OP, uh,

622
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Op needs to tell the this is this is what

623
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: we could do. So OP gives ultimatum to uh what

624
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Lauren and says, I'll tell you you.

625
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: Need to tell Sarah you don't. But it's also like Lauren,

626
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean Sarah and Ope together.

627
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, United Front you tell Lauren like like,

628
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell your husband if you don't, and then

629
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: you tell the husband and Lauren, I'm gonna tell your kid.

630
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: No.

631
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, really, I actually don't know, but I do think

632
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 5: the kid needs to know, of course, I think, but

633
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: I guess I think it has to come from the past.

634
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it could be and I think that's

635
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: not your your monkey kid, not your circus.

636
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, like, let's say,

637
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: if the cousin refuses, that's your child and legally.

638
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: Legally he could pursue.

639
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: That's true.

640
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: We have in a chat. Is not bostiled OPI has

641
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: just slept with someone that looks similar to la Why no,

642
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: not anymore because Lauren has admitted she said just let

643
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: it go, let it go. Yeah, it's it's definitely not

644
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: but it could not.

645
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: But it could. It could still be not the kid

646
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: if she could.

647
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Say regardless, it might not be a ski Yeah, although

648
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: he said it looked a lot like him.

649
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's obvious.

650
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's.

651
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

652
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: Okay, so we don't know how to proceed from here

653
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 4: on out. We're deciding to just respect her wishes. Wow,

654
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: and not pursue this further. Lauren also just changed her

655
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: response to our wedding invite to a no show. There

656
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: was kind of upset by this, but honestly, I'm fine

657
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: with this outcome. We always plan to leave the US

658
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: in a few years. Anyways, I got a lot of

659
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: messages asking me to just shut up, and I was

660
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: honestly ready to go that route, but I think the

661
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: worry was actually physically making me sick. Anyways, thanks for

662
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: anyone for the advice, much appreciated. There is an update

663
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: roll into it all right.

664
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: Update.

665
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: I've had literally dozens of people messaging me asking for

666
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: an update. Sarah and Lauren have been texting since my

667
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: last update. Okay, mostly Lauren apologizing because she won't be

668
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: coming to our wedding. She also sent some wedding and

669
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: Christmas gifts, which was very sweet. First the Sarah didn't

670
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 4: really push her for Annie, but left an open invitation

671
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: to talk whenever Lauren felt comfortable. They're going about this

672
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: like so judicial wow. A few days before Christmas, Lauren

673
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: facetimed Sarah and told her everything. Her and her husband

674
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: were going through a rough patch in their wedding at

675
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: the time, he had an emotional affair with a coworker.

676
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: The husband of Lauren had an emotional affair with the coworker,

677
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: and they were separated for a few weeks before reconciling.

678
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: Lauren met me early on during the separation when we

679
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 4: had our one night stand. She told Sarah, I'm the

680
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: only one she ever hooked up with during the separation.

681
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: Soon after she realized she was pregnant, she reconciled with

682
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: her husband. They had been trying with no luck, so

683
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: just decided to raise the child as their own. The

684
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: husband knows that's crazy.

685
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Kids, but doesn't know who is.

686
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, what do we think about that? I think

687
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 5: it's a little nuts what because she knows whose kid

688
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 5: it is that she didn't tell.

689
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Him that, she didn't tell him who the kid belongs to.

690
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: No, that they just decided like, yeah, okay, this is

691
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: ours now.

692
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: Like that happens a lot though, Like a fair babies

693
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: will be adopted by the parents if like they want

694
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: to get through it. And the rule, so the rule

695
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: is like, if they've been together for like four years,

696
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: there's probably a higher likelihood that they have enough momentum

697
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: in the relationship to adopt the kid and want to, like,

698
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: especially if it's just a one night stand not an affair,

699
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: like they're more likely to stay in the relationship.

700
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, is the question you're asking of, Like you find

701
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: it crazy that the husband of Lauren doesn't want to

702
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: know who the father.

703
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: Is, correct, Okay, And like they wouldn't sit down and

704
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 5: be like we're pregnant or like you know, like I'm pregnant,

705
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 5: it's your child. We're going to raise this kid unless

706
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 5: you say otherwise. Does anybody not think that's a little weird, Oh,

707
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: that she didn't go to OP or yeah, that she

708
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 5: didn't go to OP and be like, I'm.

709
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: With all things right, But I think it happens.

710
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: All the was a lot. I do think that she

711
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: should have told OP. I do think that if you

712
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: unless there is like a safety thing, you should tell.

713
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: I think you should be telling it all right.

714
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: So hmm, Okay, So Lauren said she's told her husband

715
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: and it's caused some turmoil in their marriage and they're

716
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: working through it now. He knew about this nameless, faceless man,

717
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 4: but seeing me in the flesh and knowing after the

718
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: fact that I'm the one guy has been a bit

719
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: traumatic for him, and he's feeling very insecure. So unfortunately,

720
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: he never wants us to ever interact or be in

721
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 4: the same room again.

722
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's totally fair.

723
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot.

724
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 4: So I was listening right out of view from the camera,

725
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 4: but I couldn't help but ask Lauren if this means

726
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 4: I can never see the boy.

727
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: No, he should be able to see the sign. That's

728
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: a sis. But also he could get parenting rights go

729
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: to court for that.

730
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: She just said she was sorry, No, no.

731
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: That's no, that's ridiculous. That's his son.

732
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: It depends like how much he's gonna push it. She

733
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: She told Sarah sheilil talk to her later and that

734
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: was it. They've still been texting and it seems Lauren

735
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: and her husband will be okay with some time.

736
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: Now.

737
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: We have to always coordinate that we're not coming to

738
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: family events at the same time. Sarah and Lauren have

739
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: already made plans to meet themselves. Though as far as

740
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: far as Sarah and I were doing okay, we had

741
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: one pretty bad fight a few days after the last

742
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: post went up. She wanted to know, in excruciating detail,

743
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: everything about the type of guy I was before. Honestly,

744
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: felt like a CIA interrogation. At one point, he cried

745
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: and told me she wished she fell in love with

746
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: someone else.

747
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: Oh, which hurts a lot.

748
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Oh that that feels like too much. It feels like

749
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 1: too much.

750
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: It's tough because at the beginning of relationship, you agreed

751
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 5: that you know he had this past.

752
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not fair.

753
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: To uncontriple scenario.

754
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and in her defense, I don't think that was

755
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: fair to say that. In her defense, like, that's just

756
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: it's just such a wild situation, a lot of so

757
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 4: much emotional turmoil.

758
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

759
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: So she apologized the next morning, and we've been doing

760
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: a lot better now. I think we're stronger now. In fact,

761
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: now that she knows everything. I've also never ever doing

762
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: the ancestry testing services all these companies do. I've got

763
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: to a much better paying job that's fully remote. Sarah

764
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: will talk with her boss to see how she can

765
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: convert to full remote as well, which we think is possible.

766
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: We might be leaving sooner than we thought.

767
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: That's it.

768
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: Thanks everyone that provided advice, especially after the first post.

769
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: Okay, that is.

770
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: The end of the story.

771
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: A wild ride.

772
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: I know what, I don't want to chieve my own

773
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: horn but these stories are pretty freaking.

774
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: To come out.

775
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: But we got another story for you all, another story.

776
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: This is S three right.

777
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: No, we just read three. We just read a new episode.

778
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: New episode to the breath that one.

779
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: Huh. Yes, every time there's a new episode, you start

780
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: this one and then start a new one.

781
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 5: Okay, even if you don't go goodbye, Oh we do well,

782
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 5: this isn't we should we should?

783
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: We should?

784
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: We should? Yeah, if you love us, make sure to

785
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: subscribe We love you and see tomorrow.

786
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: Kidding only usually in public that we don't.

787
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Usually it's usually just on Wednesday or Wednesday Wednesday.

788
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: So we're not going to do that again.

789
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: Six eighty five.

790
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the one I'm still processing, I know.

791
00:41:51,440 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 2: Six eighty five. Yes, mm hm. You seen Deadpool.

792
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: I did a couple of nights.

793
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: I really liked it.

794
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun. I love Wolverine.

795
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: I love Wolverine.

796
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: He's my favorite superhero and favorite superhero.

797
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen anything else that he's in.

798
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: You haven't seen x Men.

799
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen x Men, Days of Future Past.

800
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: Okay, that's it.

801
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Logan Logan. I've heard it's very good.

802
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love all X.

803
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: All right Meg Carter, who's beardy guy? Beardy guy is?

804
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: My name is Alex, Alex. That is all the contact.

805
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: That's that's all you need. A sweetheart, you thank you

806
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: for the two bucks. My jog's wide open.

807
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: Like Captain brown Beard about the story.

808
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy, Oki Doki, How do we do?

809
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: Bam bam Barbie?

810
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: Yep?

811
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: Who is bearded fellow?

812
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: Yep?

813
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: All right, okay, shall we get into this new episode?

814
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: Yep?

815
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Alrighty heea cologne?

816
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: My favorite here is also spider Man a man which

817
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: spider Man though uh uh if out of all of them,

818
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: it's spider Punk, but out of the three it's okay.

819
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: So my husband wants his son in his late life,

820
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: so I'm divorcing him. My husband and I have been

821
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: married for two years. About six months ago, on and

822
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: off uh talked to him about their son. After DNA test,

823
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: my husband is confirmed as the father. I'm gonna read

824
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: that again. About six months ago, someone and when not stand, Oh,

825
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: I've never seen that acronym. Nice knocks. About six months ago,

826
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: a one night stand of his called him and told

827
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: him about the son. After a DNA test. My husband

828
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: is confirmed as the father. The kid is five, and

829
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: we've been together for four years, so it's not likely

830
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: he cheated. Also, this comes from a throwaway couch on

831
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: the Okay Storytime. The bredits he agreed to meet his

832
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: son and they hit it off well. They've been spending

833
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot of time together and the mother is happy

834
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: to let her son connect with his dad.

835
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 2: Like a connected story.

836
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: But the problem is right, we both agreed to a

837
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: child free life, that is, no kids. Neither of us

838
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: wanted kids. He even got a vasecta b and I

839
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: got my tubes tied. We had to talk about this,

840
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: and he says it's his responsibility to take care of

841
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: his kid, and he says that he hopes I can

842
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: support him, but I don't want a step mom's life.

843
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: This may be cruel of me, but I can't stand children.

844
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: My husband knew this about me. I don't dare to

845
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: force my husband to choose me or his kid, but

846
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: this isn't the life I agree to. I haven't told

847
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: my husband yet, but I'm already talking to a lawyer.

848
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

849
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do here. And there are

850
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: some relevant comments and some thick juicy updates.

851
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: Are they married?

852
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: They married? Yeah?

853
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: Married? Pause. I think that he needs to take care

854
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: of his child. But she that was that was the

855
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 2: parameters of the relationship. So I think maybe they should

856
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: go there. She is, she is, she is entitled to

857
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: not she had, like literally took all the precautions to

858
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: not have a child. I don't think it makes her

859
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: the a hole for not wanting to have a child. Yeah, no,

860
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: but I think he does need to take care of

861
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: his kid. Uh. So I think that maybe this is

862
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: a if this is if this is her sticking point,

863
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: then maybe that's I.

864
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: Think if the context of a relationship drastically changes, then

865
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: you you know, you're obviously able to exit that relationship.

866
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 1: Do you get exit a relationship anytime? Exactly?

867
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: I think you could wake up any single day and

868
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: reevaluate your relationship and exactly the contact rastically.

869
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think either of them that the A

870
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: whole may bear says it's okay to not want to

871
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: be a parent slash of the parents, especially.

872
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: Because Geane like from the get go that this is

873
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: this is what I want. I don't want kids. We're

874
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: going to get a vasectomy, and you know, tubes tied,

875
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: and he agreed to that. And obviously this you know, random,

876
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: you know thing came up where he did have a kid.

877
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't expecting it, and as you said, change the parameters

878
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: of the relationship. So I don't think anyone's a whole year.

879
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: It's definitely sad, but it's not it's it's not uh,

880
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: it's not an a whole movie.

881
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: And how old is how old is the kid?

882
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Five? So we do have some relevant comments before we

883
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: get into this big, fat, juicy update. So Mustang says,

884
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: you do what's best for you, but good for your

885
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: husband for stepping up and acting like a man. Don't

886
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: forget he will also be paying child support, so you

887
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: better file soon or it might affect your divorce. Opi responds,

888
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: if you're talking about alimony or assets, don't worry. We

889
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: don't own a house. We rent currently. We were going

890
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: to buy a house, but this happened. Any other assets

891
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: would be easily divided. And I make about the same

892
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: as him. I don't need alimony, and then SNeW califoul

893
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: Hour says, op some questions, what is the dynamic between

894
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: you and the boy and you with the child's mother.

895
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Why didn't the mother seek child support before this? Did

896
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: she not know who the father was?

897
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: Is she?

898
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: Why is she seeking it now? Regardless? Neither one of

899
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: you the ahole definitely irreconcilable differences, and OP responds with

900
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: a chunky message me the boy, I guess you can

901
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: say we get along, okay. I feel like he can

902
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: sense my discomfort with the situation, which I try to ease.

903
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: I've tried to welcome him in our house, but honestly

904
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: he's more excited hang with his dad. The baby mother

905
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to like me much. He's not outright hostile,

906
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: but she tends to ignore me and always seems to

907
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: be on guard around me. She hasn't reached out because

908
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: she never caught my husband's full name until recently when

909
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: she found him on social media by chance. They haven't

910
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: gone to court to officially hash out child support terms,

911
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: but my husband is paying for a lot of the

912
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: kid's needs right now. Baby mama doesn't seem to be

913
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: in dire need of money, as I think she comes

914
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: from a rich family. And then Freebird says, good choice.

915
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: It's not just until the kid is eighteen, it's for life. Hell,

916
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: you may even have his adult son being the reason

917
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: you spend holidays in another state when y'all are seventy.

918
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: It's always about the kid forever, and Opie responds, Yeah,

919
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pretend I'm fully aware of what responsibility

920
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: to a kid one has, but from what I do know,

921
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: I know I want none of it. People here really

922
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: think I can just tell my husband and his kid

923
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: to piss off from my house, or I can just

924
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: or I can just piss off myself, and the kid

925
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, Wow, this lady never wants me around.

926
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure this won't have any effect on me at all.

927
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: And then arbitrary and unique says, not the a hole,

928
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: but you may be a fool for throwing away your

929
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: relationship too soon. Even if he suddenly has the kid

930
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: as much as fifty percent of the time, unlikely. I

931
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: think that still leaves fifty percent for just the two

932
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: of you. If you love him, that might be enough.

933
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: Talk it through with your husband, explain your worries. Then

934
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: if it feels right, agree to give it a go

935
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: for a year and see how you feel. If you

936
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: feel the same way, then I nope, he says, I mean,

937
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: even now we barely have time to even talk. He

938
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: works all day, then spends a few hours with the sun,

939
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: or even brings him over for a few hours. He's

940
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: too tired to do anything and falls asleep immediately. We

941
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: talked about this, or I did at least, and he

942
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: said he needs to be there for his son. The

943
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: verdict from reddit is no a holes here, but we

944
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 1: do have an updates and there was a pattern test.

945
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: He was confirmed yeah, as the father. But shall we

946
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: drive into this update? Yes?

947
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: Drive in.

948
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: So I had a talk with my husband to clear

949
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: a few things. My husband wants to spend as much

950
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: time with his son as possible. He even mentioned wanting

951
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: half custody and have him live with us. So it's

952
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: not like he wants to spend a day or two

953
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: with him. He wants to be as close to a

954
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: full time parent as he possibly can. Yes, our vows

955
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: included being child free. It wasn't in the wedding speech,

956
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: but we had several long conversations about kids. This was

957
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: something we promised each other. So yes, being child free

958
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: was part of our vows. I don't like children, and

959
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to have anything to do with raising children,

960
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: but it's not like I yell at every kid I see.

961
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: I guess you can say I hate the responsibility of

962
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: raising a child as opposed to hating children themselves. Yes,

963
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: I would stay with my husband if he gotten an

964
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: accident and became disabled. See. I love and adore my husband,

965
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: and I'm willing to work with him, but only for him.

966
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: Adding a whole other person to our lives is different.

967
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: I can't love this kid. I can't be a good

968
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: step mom. I love my husband, but I don't love

969
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: his kid. Now back to my husband. He almost blew

970
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: me off again because he was tired from working and

971
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: spending time with his son. But I insisted, and I

972
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: told him I don't want to live like this. We

973
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: talked and he said he can't leave his kid and

974
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: that this is going to be one thing he can't

975
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: compromise on. He said he's going to see him as

976
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: much as he can, and he said he needs to

977
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: prioritize his kids well being over everything else. Our relationship included.

978
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on this, I think that's fair.

979
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: I think it's fair, too fair all around.

980
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: Christin Foylehat says their marriage is over at this point.

981
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: I told him I don't want to live like that.

982
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: He said he won't budge on this. We both agreed

983
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: that we should separate for a while. Neither of us

984
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: straight up mentioned divorce, but I'm pretty sure that's where

985
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: we're headed. I feel empty and angry and frustrated. I

986
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: know my husband isn't at fault, I know the kid

987
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: isn't at fault, but my life is just changing so much.

988
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: We do have a relevant comment and a response from Ope,

989
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: but any comments from the Peanut Gallery.

990
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: Migael Crespo says divorce husband is not listening to her

991
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: and her worries, which I don't think that's exactly true.

992
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: I think he is listening. I think he's just saying

993
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: that I have to prioritize my kid.

994
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 4: I think he was a little reluctant to talk, but

995
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: finally he talked, and it was indeed.

996
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I just think he just doesn't He

997
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: doesn't care about anything but being with his kid, which

998
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: I think is totally understandable, especially after not having seen

999
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: his kid for five years. Like there's a lot of

1000
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: miss time to catch.

1001
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: Up on and this is his only kid is only.

1002
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: And he got a vasectomy too, Like yeah, but actually

1003
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: pole miskilled it is asking for a pole, is OP,

1004
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: Are is anyone the a hole? Are there is?

1005
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Like?

1006
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: Let me say, are there a holes? And you could

1007
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: put op husband or no one? Like, yeah, I think

1008
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: no one.

1009
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: I saw one comment saying that she was selfish.

1010
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: But let's all up Anthony. And while we're putting that

1011
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: poll up, I will get this update from OP. So

1012
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: throwaway count says, I hate to say this, but this

1013
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: isn't a compromisable situation. He wants the kid, you don't.

1014
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Why are you dragging this out? Go ahead and make

1015
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: it a clean break so you both can move on.

1016
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that it's come to this, but as you said,

1017
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: it's nobody's fault. It's just one of those curve balls

1018
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: that life throws at us. My condolences on the situation.

1019
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: You're in best wishes with whatever you decide to do.

1020
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: And then OPI responds logically speaking, I know you're right.

1021
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to rack my brain to see

1022
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: if there's anything anything at all where me, him and

1023
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: the kid are happy and Alarming resists thirty five sixty

1024
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: four says did she say why she waited so long?

1025
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: If anyone sucks, it's her and op says. She claims

1026
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: he never could find him. They didn't exchange numbers or

1027
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: last names. He only found him by chance thanks to Instagram.

1028
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: And if you found us by chance, maybe you should

1029
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: join our live stream every weekday at three pm PST.

1030
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: But that is where this story ends.

1031
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like a lot of people are

1032
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: voting three for No one's the A hole here. I'm

1033
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: trying to move it up. If you go to widgets,

1034
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: there should be one that says pole and then you

1035
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: have to unlock it and it up.

1036
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sharon Weebe says vasectomes are reversible. We go, oh,

1037
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, what do you think one,

1038
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: two or three is opva hole? Is the husband the

1039
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: A hole? Or are there no A holes here? I'd

1040
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: love to know you're answers in the.

1041
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: Commons, says she. I don't understand that.

1042
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Sweet Hotty says she's selfish that she refused to shim

1043
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to share them. I couldn't read the

1044
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: rest of it.

1045
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: We got one vote for husband.

1046
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: Okay, but we had a bunch of non votes that

1047
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't think are coming in. Yeah, I think it's okay.

1048
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Well, see threes.

1049
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a lot of threes. I've seen only like

1050
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 2: two two's, so I do think it's is it not worky?

1051
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: Usually there usually there's a there's a little bit of

1052
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: a lag should come in a second? Two votes for

1053
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: the husband so far, when one hundred percent of people

1054
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: are voting for the hosband, I have four votes for

1055
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: the husband, got the child votes for It is one

1056
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent of people.

1057
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: It is a resound voting for the husband. I would say,

1058
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: I think it's a ninety none. I think it's the

1059
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: probably none and a five percent husband. Are we weird?

1060
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: Why is it doing that?

1061
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: Are we sure that we put the right things for

1062
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: the voting?

1063
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can anyway. We know, we know, okay,

1064
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 5: we know and also look at our like whoa. I

1065
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 5: think it's time to wait.

1066
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: Wait wait, I want to know what's wrong with what?

1067
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: What?

1068
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: What's what's wrong?

1069
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1070
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 3: Does that break like this?

1071
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: No?

1072
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: I can check it out?

1073
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: It all right?

1074
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Bed, we're still not Oh.

1075
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: Wait ask let's maybe let's phone o'riiley to see what

1076
00:56:59,200 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: what the poll?

1077
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: I think we know the answer, but I want I

1078
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: want to have data. I don't want to have data.

1079
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: We have new I picked the wrong there it is

1080
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: it is.

1081
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Yes, who texted me? Our mutual friends? Our mutual our

1082
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: mutual friend?

1083
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: And how do you you feel about that?

1084
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: Feel good? Yeah? Proposing a hangout idea?

1085
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm tea here all right?

1086
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: I know this is it.

1087
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: Op third one's not working.

1088
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: No, it must work. I think this is a Riley question.

1089
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: That is not the solution. I'm I'm texting Riley. I'm

1090
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: telling Riley, why can't we do three votes?

1091
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Friend? Do you know that song always makes Chebithia?

1092
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: I love them? Great movie, that movie having met in

1093
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: my fields.

1094
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: Every time I watched you to rewatch it. It's so good.

1095
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: I watched it last year, re watched it.

1096
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 4: That movie probably because Parbathia sounds like Narnia. It reminds

1097
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 4: me of Yeah, maybe because.

1098
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 5: And mister Tuppins or whatever his name is, Tumness Narniaumbness.

1099
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: But you know what we have.

1100
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: We have another story.

1101
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: James McAvoy, and I'm gonna add that's you.

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00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: You're to add ten more minutes. Wait, we've been going

1103
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: for a while. Maybe leave, well we can have Riley

1104
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: really can't. So you have John come in? What do

1105
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: you have to leave, Anthony.

1106
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 5: I live here now, I'm good to go. I mean,

1107
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 5: I just gotta eat. You can wear my woman.

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh chat did not like Anthony had a woman?

1109
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 2: Ellen Chat in the chat? Yeah, is there a news? Geez,

1110
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: we are rolling. Thank you Geography, and you can get

1111
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: rid of that pole, all right, Despine Madula Broquie, thank

1112
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: you for the two fifty three kid. Is the a

1113
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: hole for swimming so fast? And let's get into this

1114
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: next story. Steward three.

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00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: S three two two says mister Thomas was super hot

1116
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: for a goat.

1117
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: He was to say that he really was. I just

1118
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: think jams back for.

1119
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: Thanks you as a goat.

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00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer he.

1121
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: Was shirtless, slug geez, really hairy, really hot. M eighty.

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01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: Okay, my husband was hit on for the first time.

1124
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: Now he's leaving me.

1125
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: Damn never hit savage.

1126
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 3: Got him.

1127
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: My husband just told me he's leaving me, and I

1128
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: can't believe the reason. I need to give some background.

1129
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 2: I am thirty four female and my husband is thirty

1130
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: eight male. We've been married for almost two years of

1131
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: dated two years before that, so overall a bit more

1132
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: than four years. By the way, this comes from Throwaway

1133
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: three oh four, three seven, four, seven, six nine eight

1134
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: sixty sixty six on the r slash. Okay, his story

1135
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: time submured. So he's always been very insecure about himself,

1136
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: even though he has a great personality or so thought

1137
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: is generous, caring, can express his emotions and all this stuff.

1138
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: When I got to know him better, I couldn't believe

1139
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: he wasn't taken. In fact, he had only been in

1140
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: two relationships in his life, both five plus years long.

1141
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: Though he told me that's because he's shy and ugly

1142
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: and women don't really want anything from him like ever,

1143
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: especially not good looking. I mean, this sucks, but that's

1144
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: really unattractive when a man's.

1145
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm us. Also it's saying that his like that

1146
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: op is ugly.

1147
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: Then yeah, it's like why would you?

1148
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1149
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,959
Speaker 3: Oh no, but she read the next line.

1150
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: I am fairly conventionally attractive. And he has kept telling

1151
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: me for the past years how lucky he feels to

1152
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: finally have found his dream woman and that she's and

1153
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: her being as attractive as me.

1154
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

1155
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: I was weary at the beginning, though, so I let

1156
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: him court me quite a bit before going out with

1157
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: him for the first time. I really was fearing some

1158
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: dark secret of his that I just hadn't uncovered yet.

1159
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: Plus I don't want to look easy, But turns out no,

1160
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: he's really a sweet guy and just very shy. I

1161
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: also don't think he's ugly. He's not in any way

1162
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: super handsome or so and frankly, originally I thought he

1163
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: was not my type, but his charm melted all of

1164
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: that away quickly. Once we started thoroughly dating, things went fast.

1165
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: Because it's all so wonderful. Well, apparently a while ago

1166
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: he was on his own in the outside area of

1167
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: a restaurant having a lunch when this woman went by

1168
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: and apparently struck up a conversation with him. He's shown

1169
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: me a picture of her since I asked him, and

1170
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: she is drop dead George, how does you.

1171
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: Like look at this hot girl that talked to me?

1172
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: Look at her? Maybe I'm exaggerating because I'm so mad,

1173
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: but she definitely looks better than me. I have to admit.

1174
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me much about what they talked about,

1175
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: just that she was very friendly and they exchanged numbers. Oh,

1176
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: I started texting and started texting more and more often.

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.

1178
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: That's really weird. Really, I think if she was if

1179
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: she said, I mean, she's not in the wrong for

1180
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 2: just saying, hey, can I have your number, in which

1181
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 2: case he should respond, sorry, I have a girlfriend.

1182
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: Quite inappropriate, very inappropriate.

1183
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: Oh, he says she at some point openly started pursuing him,

1184
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: even though she knew he was married, saying she just

1185
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: really fell for him and can't let this opportunity past.

1186
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh wait, he's in the hymn now Yeah.

1187
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry I didn't I didn't register that. Yeah, okay,

1188
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: So this girl started pursuing him openly and basically just

1189
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: revealed that she has feelings for this guy who is

1190
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: with op.

1191
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1192
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, you look way attractive today.

1193
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: Thank you. You know I should I should do this

1194
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: every day.

1195
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: Hey, your hair looks so lushiy.

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1197
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: Like my shirt?

1198
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: Whoa, Oh my god, you literally are wearing your company shirts. Yeah.

1199
01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: He said that he was hesitant once he realized that

1201
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: she was hitting on him, Oh my god, and he

1202
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: was also excited because this literally has never happened in

1203
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: his life in the past. He repeatedly said that women,

1204
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: at least attractive ones like me have it easy because

1205
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: we can lean back and let the guys approach us.

1206
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: He sounds like an awful persons As Samuel Donner, I

1207
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: wholeheartedly agree with the student.

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: Great take sam thank you.

1209
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: Whereas for him, it was always hard work to even

1210
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: get a single date. I always replied that it's not

1211
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: really like that, and that being attractive has its own problems.

1212
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: But he then always reminded me of the fact that

1213
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: he had to work really hard to get me to

1214
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: date him too, probably because you were like, oh I'm

1215
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: so ugly. No one wants to hear that. I think

1216
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 2: anyone if you have confidence, you can kind of get

1217
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: anyone if you have a certain measure of confidence.

1218
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: And I think for attractiveness, like yeah, I think women

1219
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: stereotypically tend to be more attracted like.

1220
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Over tersonality, yeah.

1221
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 3: And personality and not over time, but essentially like can

1222
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: be grow attraction, I think for both, but maybe tending

1223
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: towards women can grow attraction for.

1224
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: You know, but yeah, I agree, uh, and it's yeah,

1225
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: I just think it's not attractive to hear a guy

1226
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: be like, oh I'm so ugly likes me Like, that's

1227
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: just so so fabricating. Guys text No, my god, I

1228
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: had a guy text that emoji like years ago. He

1229
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: texted that emoji it's.

1230
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: Like with the tears, like I think it's kind of funny.

1231
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: But he only texted that one like that was the

1232
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 2: only Yeah, And I was like ah and I I

1233
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: literally I couldn't do it. I stopped in college. Yeah,

1234
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: my freshman called Hugh, where was I. He swears he

1235
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: has only met her one more time for lunch after

1236
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: the first encounter, and that he thinks it is not

1237
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: yet an affair, not.

1238
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 3: Yet emotionally cheating on his art wild literally so.

1239
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: However, he thinks he wants to go forward with her because,

1240
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: as he has put it, this is the first woman

1241
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: who is genuinely interested in me and I didn't have

1242
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: to text her for three months to get a date

1243
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: or anything. I can't let this pass wow or something

1244
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: along those lines. My memory is a bit hazy. I

1245
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 2: would be shocked if someone told me the three months

1246
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 2: refers to the time it took him to get update

1247
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: with me. By the way, and that is why he

1248
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: says he is breaking up with me. He says it's

1249
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: the right thing to do because he wants to continue

1250
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: contact with her, but also feels doing that would be

1251
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: emotional cheating, and he doesn't want to cheat on me,

1252
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: so he ended it before actually starting something with her.

1253
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: I feel devastated. I know there's nothing I can do.

1254
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: I want to be mad at him, but I'm also

1255
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: mad at myself. I really liked him when we first met.

1256
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Why did I give him a hard time? Girl? Now? Yeah,

1257
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: stop it, stop it right there. Oh, it's not your fault.

1258
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: That's not as crazy. I'm sorry you one, you don't

1259
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: know anyone a relationship, and if you grew to it

1260
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: like like him, that's fine too.

1261
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 4: I also think to backtrack, Yeah, it's that him saying

1262
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 4: all this time of like no one likes me and

1263
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 4: all this stuff, it's essentially saying like he didn't actually

1264
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 4: choose her, he was just the only one that gave.

1265
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: Him a chance.

1266
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: So it's so insulting.

1267
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: It is super insulting.

1268
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 4: And then for another more attractive woman or just any

1269
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 4: other person to to show him any interest at all,

1270
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: be like, sorry, I gotta take this opportunity, Like it's

1271
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: like a job opportunity.

1272
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 2: I gotta take this one. I can't patch that up.

1273
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: The hours, the two good, you're too good. The benefits

1274
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: I get dental. No, this is ridiculous and it's not

1275
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: your fault. And leave him.

1276
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: Well, he already left.

1277
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: Leave him before you quit. I feel devastated. I know

1278
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: there's nothing I can do. I want to be mad

1279
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: at him, but I'm also mad at myself. Oh I

1280
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: said this. I really liked him when we first met.

1281
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: Why did I give him hard time? If I had

1282
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: said what I wanted back then, if I had pursued

1283
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: him instead of playing hard to get, he probably wouldn't

1284
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: be interested in that woman. No, if this is his personality,

1285
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: then yeah, it's not gonna change. But I always felt

1286
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: if a woman does that, she shows she's easy. And

1287
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't just want to get laid, so I thought

1288
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: I must act that way. And now it's biting me

1289
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: in the butt. And I of course am very mad

1290
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: at me. But he didn't even cheat on me. Yes

1291
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 2: he did. He emotionally cheeses on you. He's behaving exactly

1292
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: the way I always say people should act when they

1293
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: fall in love with someone else. I kind of wish

1294
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: he had actually cheated on me with her. That would

1295
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: actually make it easier. Thanks for letting me rant. I

1296
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: don't need advice. I know I am ft and there

1297
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: are some updates.

1298
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, I think I think, like even

1299
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: going like even trying to rethink of like how you

1300
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: originally you know, approached him as just irrelevant has nothing to.

1301
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: Do No, it doesn't have anything to do with the

1302
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: context relationship right now. Yeah, No, it's not. Op's like

1303
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: you can't do anything when a guy like this says, oh,

1304
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: I have to move on because someone else don't interest

1305
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: in me. Yeah, ridiculous. And it also doesn't really sound

1306
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: like he actually cares about this girl at all, like.

1307
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 3: The new one. He's just like she's pretty hot.

1308
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 2: Pretty hot, and she she is, and she said she's

1309
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: interested in me like those at the Yeah, as those

1310
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: only qualifications. Thanks, But there is some mini updates and

1311
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: then a big old juicy update. Mini update one, I

1312
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 2: have texted my husband. I forgot this was her husband.

1313
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow, whoa telling him? I wish to meet up

1314
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: with him to talk about this thing. I've told him

1315
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 2: I love him and don't understand where this is suddenly

1316
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: coming from, and that I think I deserve to at

1317
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 2: least have a conversation with him with me about it.

1318
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten an answer yet. And then second mini

1319
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: update my husband is finally replied and agreed to meet

1320
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: with me today in the afternoon. I thought it was

1321
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 2: better to choose a public place, so we'll meet at

1322
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: a cafe in town. I'm scared and big old juicy

1323
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: update next day. Yesterday, my husband and I met for

1324
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: the first time since he up and left last Friday,

1325
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: and frankly, after the meetup, I was very shaken. So

1326
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: it took me until today to be able to write

1327
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 2: about this. Since so many people have reached out to

1328
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: me with helpful comments and all, I think you deserve

1329
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 2: an update, but I really wasn't up to it yesterday. Also,

1330
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: this is really long, so sorry in advance. There's just

1331
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: so much to cope with, So here we go. The

1332
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: situation felt very awkward, and I got the impression the

1333
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: whole time that he genuinely feels sorry for how things

1334
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 2: were and that what he was doing hurts me. Who

1335
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: freaking cares what he thinks?

1336
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: And he didn't even say that she's She's like, I

1337
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 3: got the.

1338
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: Impression that he was sorry. I was like, I'm leaving

1339
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: because I know many of you said he's a douche

1340
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: and a cheater and whatnot, and I really understand you

1341
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: and are mad at at him myself. But on the

1342
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: other hand, all don't know him like I do. Girl, No, right,

1343
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: you're gaslighting yourself. He's a very honest person. He despises

1344
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 2: lying and is really bad at this. He carries his

1345
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: heart on his tongue, and I know him well enough

1346
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 2: to sense his feelings. Did that help me?

1347
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: Not much?

1348
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: Now, even if I wished, I couldn't paraphrase our talk,

1349
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I will miss certain things. And overall

1350
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: it was a mixture of him telling and me asking

1351
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: questions and all and all is a big flurry in

1352
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 2: my head, so I'll just summarize. I guess. First, he

1353
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 2: told me that he really loved me, and he still does,

1354
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: but he feels that his feelings for the new woman

1355
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: are stronger. Oh my god, that he literally just met.

1356
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: Wait, wait really quick? Is I just had to leave

1357
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: for a second. Is this the girl that he met

1358
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: on the street that's super hot?

1359
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: Yes?

1360
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: Yes, And he said she's shown interest. She's the first

1361
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: person who actually showed interest to me, So I can't

1362
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: let this opportunity pass.

1363
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 3: So they went on They went on a date. Yeah,

1364
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: he went on a date with her.

1365
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 4: While he was still married and now he's like, yeah,

1366
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go for her now, sorry, Hobby, Yeah.

1367
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: Man, don't give a shy guy confidence. I guess is

1368
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: that the pull away.

1369
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 5: Are we saying that that's just never allowed, what to like,

1370
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 5: fall in love with somebody else. He's not in love

1371
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 5: with this new girl.

1372
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 2: He just he literally just like I think it is

1373
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: allowed that you can be like, I'm sorry, I fell

1374
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: in love with someone else, but it's absolutely ridiculous that

1375
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: his reasoning is, oh my god, a girl showed interest

1376
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 2: in me, and so I'm gonna move on because she

1377
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: was the first.

1378
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it is okay to fall in love

1379
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: with someone else because usually to fall in love with

1380
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: someone else, you have disregarded the barriers and the context

1381
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: of the relationship because like you've done some emotional cheating,

1382
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: You've done some emotional cheating to get you to that place.

1383
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: Well, it depends of logistically, like you're leaning in, like

1384
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 3: in this.

1385
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: Case, you have to lean in. Yeah, do fall in love?

1386
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 3: You have to lean in, Like he went on a date.

1387
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he got her number, so that I think

1388
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: that's not okay.

1389
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 3: I was texting her after that.

1390
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,919
Speaker 1: I think an important part of being in a committed

1391
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: relationship is the commitment part. And what the commitment means

1392
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: is not just saying like, oh, like we're going to

1393
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 1: be staying together, but actively making sure that you're not

1394
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: like putting yourself in places where you could become emotionally

1395
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: involved with someone. That's part of the package.

1396
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: I think. Also, I think a better way to be

1397
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: is like you're allowed to be attracted to people. Yeah,

1398
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: but I think it is when you are in a

1399
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: committed relationship. It's it's saying, Okay, well, maybe I'm going

1400
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 2: to distance myself with mem person because I want to

1401
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: be respectful to my relationship. Yeah, and I'm going to

1402
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: put a boundaries for myself so that I don't step

1403
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: on any you know exactly.

1404
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 4: Like say you have a coworker and you're talking to

1405
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 4: them every day and then you're like, oh shit, like

1406
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 4: I have feelings for them. It's not exactly your fault.

1407
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: You know, you weren't leaning into it, you weren't going

1408
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 4: out of your way. But this is like it's not

1409
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 4: like he had continued like he started having.

1410
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: Star on the street and got her number.

1411
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: But in the case, in your your your case, where

1412
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: like I am starting to have feelings for them. What

1413
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: the solution in that workcase thing is like, Okay, I'm

1414
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to scale this back a lot, like I'm

1415
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: not gonna chat to her or him at the water cooler.

1416
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to respect my existing relationship unless you're like,

1417
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: you know what actually I want? I like, I want

1418
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: to end this relationship to see where it goes, which

1419
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: is which is fine? Yeah, which is fine. I have

1420
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: to end it then start emotionally investing. If you emotionally

1421
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: invest before you end it, then you're kind of like

1422
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: relationship hopping, which reads a bad move.

1423
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: You agreed, and Kay says, did do y'all do the

1424
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 2: will spin for some of fifty likes? We did? We

1425
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: got ten more minutes, but let's continue. First, he told

1426
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: me he does really love me, and he still does,

1427
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: but his feelings but he feels that his feelings for

1428
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: the new woman are stronger. He told me her name,

1429
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: let's call her Jasmine on her real name. He admits

1430
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 2: Jasmine is gorgeous, but claims that that in no way

1431
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: was relevant to his decision.

1432
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: How can you go on one date?

1433
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it was absolutely relevant to your

1434
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: decision because the first thing you did when you met

1435
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 2: her was come home and show a picture of her

1436
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: to your wife and say, look how hot she is?

1437
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: I think she asked, but yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1438
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: If your partner says oh, like like he's like, oh,

1439
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: a girl asked me out and she says, oh, like

1440
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: that's cool. What does she look like? I don't I

1441
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. Ye, that's what he told

1442
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: me that she originally approached him because of a book

1443
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 2: he was reading during lunch. Supposedly the book's author is

1444
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: her uncle, and she who able to tell my husband

1445
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: some She's like Oscar Wilde, that's my uncle. Uh supposedly,

1446
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: and she was able to tell my husband some funny

1447
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: stories about the time her uncle drafted that book. Who

1448
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: freaking cares?

1449
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: Dude? Okay, yeah, like terrible on the husband's part, But

1450
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: god game, she's got riz, she's got looks and yeah,

1451
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: because that's not just like she's hot, like that's ritz,

1452
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: that's a ritz.

1453
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 2: He says, he and Jasmine have very similar interests. Jasmine

1454
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: also reads her uncle Desmond also reads sci fi as

1455
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 2: he does because of seid uncle, who is a sci

1456
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: fi author. And both like gaming and stuff. He says

1457
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 2: after they exchanged numbers, they initially only wrote about stuff

1458
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 2: like that, and later on they talked about other hobbies

1459
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 2: and interests and found more and more and more common ground,

1460
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 2: as he put it. He also admitted that, like two

1461
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: weeks or so ago, he started to wonder if he

1462
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: should actively tell me about her, seeing how she turned

1463
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: from an acquaintance to what he deemed the friend. I

1464
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: interjected that they don't know each other long enough to

1465
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: consider her friend. I disagree with that, only that I

1466
01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: don't think you have to know someone that long to

1467
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 2: be a friend. But he says he feels Jasmine is

1468
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: really genuine with him. This is a man who cannot

1469
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: pick up social clues unless they're spelled out for him.

1470
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: But whatever, He also feels a lot more in tune

1471
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: with Jasmine than he does with me. Admittedly, we seem

1472
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: to have less common interest but I never felt like

1473
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: I have to be exactly like my partner. Opposites can

1474
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 2: compliment each other well, and I always felt we do well.

1475
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: Looks like he feels much happier with someone catering to

1476
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: his interests a lot more. He also became a bit

1477
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: self critical then ugh, He says, after he left for

1478
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: his friend's place, he sat down and re read his

1479
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: conversation history with Jasmine, and he realized that she had

1480
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: been indeed flirting with him. Okay, so he's actually he's

1481
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: looking critically. Before she told him she wanted more, it

1482
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: didn't start out flirtatious, but he admits he totally missed that.

1483
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: He opened up the app on his phone and showed

1484
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: me the beginning, and then when she started flirting. He

1485
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: might have tuned the messages, but at least the begin

1486
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: really were friendly, or really read friendly. The flirtatious parts, however,

1487
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: were blatantly obvious in my eyes. But dot He actually

1488
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: blames himself for that and says that, well, that doesn't

1489
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: change his feelings for her. It means he should have

1490
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: noticed this earlier, and well, he said, bade the decision

1491
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 2: to pursue her earlier. That sort of broke me, and

1492
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: I started sobbing because it sounds as if I never

1493
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 2: had a chance compared to Jasmine. He even wanted to

1494
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 2: console me, and I allowed that for a couple of minutes,

1495
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 2: but then I saw some distance again. It both felt

1496
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 2: good and bad to be in his arm. Oh, then

1497
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: it was time to ask me why she is so

1498
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: attractive to him that he leaves me his wife for

1499
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: just the mere possibility of being with another woman. I

1500
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: mentioned that someone I didn't say read it suggested she

1501
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: might be a scam or just interested in breaking up

1502
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: marriages and going after men who were taken and such.

1503
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: Is that a thing that sucks?

1504
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: He, of course, vehemently denied that. Supposedly, they met less

1505
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: Sunday to go out for dinner, and they talked about

1506
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: the fact that she approached him even though he's married,

1507
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: and she claims to have a really bad conscious about this,

1508
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: and that she never would have done it had she

1509
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: not felt such a deep connection between them. Blah blah blah.

1510
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 2: I must admit I really struggled through this part because

1511
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 2: if it hurts, oh, if it's true, it hurts me,

1512
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: and if it isn't, it hurts even more that he

1513
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: falls for bs. He then told me in excruciating detail

1514
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: about his dating life and how long he was a virgin,

1515
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 2: and how he was always treated by girls back in

1516
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 2: middle school and high school and by the women in

1517
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: college and later on, how he really feels that he

1518
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: always has to be the one initiating fighting even for

1519
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 2: a chance, and felt like he was always treated as

1520
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 2: unworthy by almost all women, and how that made him bitter.

1521
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: He admitted that, but also how he always thought that

1522
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: someone who truly fits him, fits his personality, his character

1523
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: is being, would be someone who would not make him

1524
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: jump through hoops, someone who'd outright tell him she is

1525
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: intrigued by him and wants him. He says he loves

1526
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 2: me dearly and was always very grateful for being with me,

1527
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: but that even with me, he always felt somewhere between

1528
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: a beggar and the subject of a pity party, where

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 2: I bestowed the grace of my companionship onto him instead

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: of actually liking and wanting him. When I asked him

1531
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: whether that means he settled for me, he vehemently denied that.

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: He said when we started to date, I really treated

1533
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: him better than any woman had done before, so we

1534
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: really thought this was what he had been looking for,

1535
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 2: and before meeting Jasmine, he never felt like he needed more. I,

1536
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: of course tried to tell them tell him that he

1537
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,839
Speaker 2: I am not with him out of pity or anything,

1538
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: and explained why I made him wait three months and

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01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: why I think the man should court the woman and

1540
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 2: so forth.

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01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: Wait wait three months.

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01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: Oh, he basically waited three months until they dated because

1543
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: she was like, I didn't want.

1544
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: To steam eat three months until I date.

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01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he always.

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: Pursuing her for three months and now he's bringing that up.

1547
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?

1548
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so, but I've for

1549
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,799
Speaker 2: hear it is. Huh, but I don't think it's relevant

1550
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: to the relationship. Not relevant and why I think the

1551
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: man blah blah blah, and that I also admitted that

1552
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: I might not have given him the appreciation he deserved

1553
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: this time. It actually was his turn to drop tears

1554
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: for a bit. He said hearing that made him both

1555
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: grateful and unhappy that he never really communicated better about this.

1556
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: I told him that hearing him say that feels like

1557
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: he is putting the blame on me, and I swear

1558
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: to God, his eyes looked like doubled their size, and

1559
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: he looked genuinely shocked, and he apologized many times and

1560
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: said he did not want me to think he actually

1561
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 2: has any bad feelings about having to wait back then,

1562
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: and that this is a situation where no one is

1563
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: to blame. That's not true.

1564
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: You're to blame.

1565
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: You're to blame, but especially not me. He said I

1566
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: had been a wonderful wife and all, but that with

1567
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: Jasmine it just feels different and like a deeper connection

1568
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: that the two of us have, and that while he

1569
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 2: thought that I was wonderful, he now realizes that what

1570
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: he was really looking for in life something else. Though

1571
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: he says reconciliation is not really an option because he

1572
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: realized that we're not right for each other, and even

1573
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out with Jasmine, he knows now

1574
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 2: that he actually needs something that I just not am

1575
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: am not. I mentioned marriage counseling, and he says that

1576
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: it's not like our marriage has issues, but that the

1577
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 2: issue is that we're just not right for each other.

1578
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: There were more things said, and maybe I'll add some later,

1579
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: but right now I am too mentally exhausted, especially because

1580
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: I still don't feel like I can hate him because

1581
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: he feels so fricking honest. I think he is at

1582
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: least truly believes all the things he said, but that

1583
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: women still might be able total, that woman still might

1584
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: be a total liar or scam. He at least promised

1585
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 2: to be careful with her financial wise, but he assures me,

1586
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: she's not that. I don't know what to make with

1587
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: any of this hurts. I guess my marriage is over

1588
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 2: and that is the end of the story and perhaps

1589
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: the end of.

1590
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: The story clost end of the stream. We got some

1591
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 1: don'nos to read.

1592
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: We've got Thank you for the ten buck tip, I

1593
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 2: mean fourteen fifteen buck tip.

1594
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: Wow, fourteen ninety six Twisted Queen twenty four. Thanks for

1595
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: the ten dollars tip, Twisted Queen twenty four. Another ten

1596
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: dollar tip. Love you guys, always so happy to catch

1597
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: the lives every day. Don't know how it'd get through

1598
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: my routine without the okop fam. You mean the okay

1599
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 1: story time fam right, just fema Dola Burquis says with

1600
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: two three kid is nahol for swimming so fast to

1601
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: the end with our final forty five seconds unless something

1602
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: crazy happens, breaking like breaking this down, like I mean,

1603
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's he's really risking at all.

1604
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: He is either the worst that I feel like he's

1605
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: going to pursue Jasmine. She's not going to like it's gonna,

1606
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: I don't know, implode. It's gonna implode, and then he's

1607
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: gonna come back to OPI I'm worried that Ope will

1608
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: take him back.

1609
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: I wish she shouldn't.

1610
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: Should she should not.

1611
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: I think he has self worth issues and he's like

1612
01:24:56,120 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: trying to seek validation in any woman that like shows

1613
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: interest in him. And I think it's the newness of

1614
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: the interest, in the fact, like, oh wow, there's more

1615
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: than one. There's more than one, more than one girl

1616
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: likes me. And I don't know, he's like I would

1617
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: I would if I was Jasmine, I would be like, oh, like,

1618
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1619
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 2: I want to be with a guy that just like

1620
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: leaves his relationship.

1621
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: Leaves his relationship after one date, like at least like, ma,

1622
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: get a couple, you know, wait three months? Yeah, too easy?

1623
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, this guy obviously has dealt with rejection his

1624
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: whole life. One pretty woman decided she liked him, so

1625
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 4: he went with her.

1626
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: It wasn't it. You didn't choose her.

1627
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,680
Speaker 4: He just choosed being accepted by one single woman and

1628
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: then found that that another woman liked him, And so

1629
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with her, her personality or

1630
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 4: their connection. He's just like, oh cool, another way that

1631
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 4: could get validated and then just immediately validation.

1632
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's where this story ends and

1633
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 1: extream ends. But Alex, can you tell the people what

1634
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: you got going on in your life? Where they can

1635
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: find you if they love your beautiful voice?

1636
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 3: First off, thank you? Okay, story time.

1637
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 4: This was so much fun. Yeah, how long has it

1638
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 4: been a while? It's been a while. No, this was

1639
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 4: so much fun. I've been wanting to come on for

1640
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 4: like over a year. I remember the first time Sam

1641
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 4: said I could come on is in Tahoe.

1642
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 3: So this was so fun.

1643
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: It was like a year ago, but a year no,

1644
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: but this was great.

1645
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 3: What do I have going on?

1646
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 4: You could find me at my medium dot com account

1647
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: or my sub stack. It's Alex Hirshman if you look

1648
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 4: me up. I write articles. In the past, they've been around,

1649
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 4: memoir styled articles. There have been some around talking about

1650
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 4: human connection, and lately I've been writing.

1651
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: Poetry on them and they are great and I've read them,

1652
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: so yeah, and they're also good and I I am

1653
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: a lit major, so yeah, they're great.

1654
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: Alex Hirshman on sub stack. I think you can just

1655
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: look it up and it's h E R S H

1656
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: M A N. But if you love us, make sure

1657
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: to subscribe.

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01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: We love you c n omr