WEBVTT - Alien: Earth Episode 5

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording are you ready? Alien Earth? Warning? Today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>it spoilers four Alien Earth one oh five. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jasconcepcion and I'm Mersey Nike and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>X ray VS. We dived video of raby Jo's movie

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<v Speaker 1>is probably are bad you? Three episodes a week and loss.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode, we are recapping episode five of Alien

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<v Speaker 2>and boy oh how many times people get step in

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<v Speaker 2>the ship with the alien that always dumb. Don't worry, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into.

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<v Speaker 1>It Alien Earth episode five in space No. One dot

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<v Speaker 1>dot dot dot dot dot to flashback episode folks All

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<v Speaker 1>episode Marrow is woken from cryo to learn that stuff's

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<v Speaker 1>going left on the on the ship. There's a fire,

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<v Speaker 1>he's told, and potentially some of the creatures are running around,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the captain's dead, so that's bad. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>up markets to the med bay and we see that

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<v Speaker 1>two crew members have been hugged They are currently being

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<v Speaker 1>hugged by the face huggers, and that one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was severely burned by the acid blood. Fire is out now,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ships just kind of generally is a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>The eggs somehow hatched, the crates were opened. Marrow wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know how He's like, okay, how this all happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And the protocol for hugged crew is do not perform

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<v Speaker 1>a procedure to try and remove the the creatures. Just

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<v Speaker 1>put them in cry of sleep and we'll figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out when we get to Earth. The other aliens, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up with them? No one's sure, which is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm also very interested in what this tells us

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<v Speaker 2>about the Utawni mission, the kind of like wailing Utani

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<v Speaker 2>overlook of the future, because it's very different to what

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<v Speaker 2>we see an alien This is not a secret mission.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also say that I am shocked, shocked, shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that they get to this point with so few casualties

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<v Speaker 1>that they went. They are potentially various alien worlds and

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<v Speaker 1>like truly a ship of bozos anyway. So Mar's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up with the aliens? Folks are like, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I think they're secure, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go down there. No one really wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>down there, but they all eventually agree to a company

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<v Speaker 1>Morrow down there. Morrow is like, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>control of this situation. The engineers want Morrow to launch

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies into space. And Marrow's like, no again. They

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<v Speaker 1>go into cryo sleep and now tell me more engineering

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<v Speaker 1>department about the damage and apparently the fire damage and

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<v Speaker 1>the navigation and the steering which is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>important for the ship. And so now they're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hurtling out of control towards Earth. Down in the lab,

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly appears as if all the creatures are secure.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, Marrow, who is paranoid, which is how he

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<v Speaker 1>has to be and I guess his job, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure everything is secure in guardians, corporate sabotage, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinks about the cause of all this. To him, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like sabotage because like the fire happened in just

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<v Speaker 1>the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the random like aliens just happened to make

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<v Speaker 2>it out and nobody knows who opened.

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<v Speaker 1>The boxes, and so yeah, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's check.

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<v Speaker 1>He speaks to the acting captain about this and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to call a shipwide emergency and she's like no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because that will cause a panic. Everybody will start freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's why I freaked out?

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<v Speaker 2>Alien?

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Let's let's go to mother and punching it

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<v Speaker 1>to mother and see what she says. And Morrow's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this. I know that you've been having an affair,

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<v Speaker 1>having a relationship with one of your crewmates who's currently

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<v Speaker 1>being hugged by the face hugger sadly, and that's against

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<v Speaker 1>company regulations. So how about I dropped the dime on

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<v Speaker 1>you and destroy your career and then take control of

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<v Speaker 1>this ship, which I absolutely can do. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>been ordered by you Tani herself to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this cargo gets to Earth safely. That is priority one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about you or the lives of any

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<v Speaker 1>of these other crew members, so declare the fucking emergency

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<v Speaker 1>or else.

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<v Speaker 2>And she also, I just want to say big we

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<v Speaker 2>were right for Joel, the super producer. Joel, yes, because

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<v Speaker 2>she cool that this was going to be a You

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<v Speaker 2>Tawny ship rather than a wayland ship. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>Morow we're going to find out why he cares so

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<v Speaker 2>much about Utani things.

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<v Speaker 1>So the weird guy who we thought was a synth

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently is not Tang is being weird again to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the crew members in a cryopod, and people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, leave that poor girl alone. He kind

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<v Speaker 1>of refuses to do it. Marrow goes to what they

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<v Speaker 1>call the zoo and lots of weird creatures in there,

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<v Speaker 1>in various cages and vats. There is one cage door

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<v Speaker 1>wide open, which was where the face huggers apparently came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Acid hole in the floor goes down several levels, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole bit, the whole alien bit. Marrow goes to his office.

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<v Speaker 1>He watches the security tape he sees the face hugger attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he begins to look at all the footage

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<v Speaker 1>to try and find the saboteur, and he finds him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh appears certainly to be a hymn crouching, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>suspiciously by some very sensitive materials in hardware. The acting

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<v Speaker 1>captain cries over her boyfriend, who currently has the face

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<v Speaker 1>hugger on his face, and she does a little fun

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<v Speaker 1>funeral rite and pours some earth dirt on his cryo,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like, who's going to clean that up? I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the gesture, but, you know, and very touchingly is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be home soon, babe, you know. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that maybe they'll get this thing off his face.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what that being, at least scheming or performisted,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because they seem to have a protocol for what

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<v Speaker 2>happens if you get face hugged, which makes me think

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<v Speaker 2>that people have been face hugged before. And maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>lie you tell their crew so they don't try and

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<v Speaker 2>do the surgery is, Oh, just put them in the

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<v Speaker 2>right the crew, the cryo tanks, and we'll get them back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do the thing. But, as we're going to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>also bad idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right because it does certainly seem as

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<v Speaker 1>if this is not their first encounter with these creatures,

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<v Speaker 1>because Marrow knows the biological process that is happening, as

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<v Speaker 1>we will find out later. Morrow meanwhile, is watching the

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<v Speaker 1>acting current acting captain having her dalliance with the currently

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<v Speaker 1>face hugged boyfriend. Acting captain goes to see mother. Mother

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<v Speaker 1>is like, what's up with the cargo. Acting captain says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they got out, but things are stable now,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not really sure about can like one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent containment. I couldn't tell you that we're one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent contained.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And she also, well, she asked her something really important.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, can I destroy the cargo if more crew

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<v Speaker 2>life is threatened, and Mother's like, no, fucking absolutely sorry, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>you must be mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just say this, there's no there's no Ripley's

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<v Speaker 1>on this ship. There is no one of the there

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<v Speaker 1>is no one of the kind of fortitude of a

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<v Speaker 1>Ripley on this ship, sadly except for Morrow, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a sidework anyway. Mother then stresses like, listen, aliens take priority.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care if you die, press enter if you acknowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>and she and okay. Mar goes back to his cabin

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<v Speaker 1>and listens to the Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter song loves.

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<v Speaker 2>That for him, just this huge fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Will meet again. And then he thinks of his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>back on Earth, and we learned that shortly after the

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<v Speaker 1>ship launched, he got a telex from Earth that his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter died in a fire. And so that is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why Garrow is the way he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Question was his daughter killed in a fire by Utani

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<v Speaker 2>so that he would have nothing else to live for

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<v Speaker 2>except for just like serving the company, or is it

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<v Speaker 2>just a coincidence that then put him in this position

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<v Speaker 2>to be so kind of cold and calculating when he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because as we do find out,

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<v Speaker 1>you Tani the grandmother who is the Utani he knows

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<v Speaker 1>like saved him from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounds like she's kind of like a yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of maternal figure at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least, so I think he would have been down for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever Utani said without a murder plot. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>really sad. Time passes, there's another explosion. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was by this time, I thought Tang is the guy, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>incredible figure.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't think it was him.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the whole crew is like, Okay, there is

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of saboteur. Then there's a breach in cryo.

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<v Speaker 1>They get they get that alert and that means the

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<v Speaker 1>chest bursters have burst. Did someone defrost theo? I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to freeze them. I think you can't freeze them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think also this.

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<v Speaker 2>Proves that for whatever reason, this is the first time

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<v Speaker 2>or at least no reports have gone back about this,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise surely you would use a more you know,

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<v Speaker 2>chest burst, a proof gloss or something like. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like too easy for this thing to get through the glass.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, is a cryopod?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? How?

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess it is an alien and it does

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<v Speaker 2>have acid blood.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, it would not be an Alien show if

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<v Speaker 1>the scientists technicians were not incredibly stupid, because one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>as they're musing, yeah, as they're musing about how this

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<v Speaker 1>is possible, one of them says, well, we do know

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<v Speaker 1>that they can survive the vacuum of space. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can survive the the sub zero almost total

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<v Speaker 1>zero vacuum of space, then of course they can survive

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<v Speaker 1>the cryot tube and running around talking about yeah, soh.

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<v Speaker 1>And now basically the plot of Alien is unfolding like

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<v Speaker 1>inside of this other story. Morrow then gives his order,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't takes control out because clearly, like everyone agrees in

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<v Speaker 1>a security situation, Morrow is now in control of the ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tells the crew we're going to capture this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go by teams. Everybody goes by twos, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>goes alone anywhere, and uh, capture, capture, capture, capture, don't

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<v Speaker 1>kill kill. Down in the lab, the experiments, the very

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<v Speaker 1>shoddy experiments continue with the eye watching very closely everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That very cool to see that I perspective kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a fly with multiple lenses. Very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I have to say, I think the triumph

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<v Speaker 1>of this show is that it got me to empathize

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<v Speaker 1>with the I'm pro alien, right, like, I like.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill something, you know what could happen because of how

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<v Speaker 2>scary this x anomorph is. But this show has actually

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<v Speaker 2>done a really fantastic job of getting that very unexpected

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of empathy where you are rooting for You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go for it, like they out of space and now they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, hey, hey, blood imbibing bugs kill the people like

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<v Speaker 1>you deserve it. So one of the bugs that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>lives on the oxygen in the blood of its victims,

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<v Speaker 1>figures out how to open the top of the vat

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought this, now, this part was like super interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The eye tries to warn the lady by slapping on

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<v Speaker 1>the glass, is like, hey.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, does it have feelings for haa?

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<v Speaker 3>Was she nice to it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like hi, I mean, it's clearly

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<v Speaker 1>like empathy or something, and just is like hey, look out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the thing and the woman does not

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<v Speaker 1>pay any science officer does not pay any attention. The

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<v Speaker 1>bug goes and ejaculates in her water, filling it with

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of tadpoles and then climbs through her sandwich to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of try to hide grossly, but is immediately recaptured

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<v Speaker 1>and the water insemination goes unnoticed. Meanwhile, the Eye, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is plotting its escape, and it manages to knock its

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<v Speaker 1>enclosure down onto the ground, smashing glass, and it gets out.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no alarm that, by the way, that goes

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<v Speaker 1>off when this happens, which is which is again again,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we doing in space?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you need you need much better security going

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<v Speaker 2>on in this ship.

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<v Speaker 3>How about you, Tani and r Whalen.

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<v Speaker 1>How about in space no one notices anything, and in

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<v Speaker 1>space you're all supposed to be in cryer sleep, So

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about what's going on on the ship.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We get the classic alien cafeteria scene. The whole crew

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<v Speaker 1>is there, despite the fact that the captain has died,

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<v Speaker 1>aliens have escaped, and that there's a saboteur on board,

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<v Speaker 1>and two of the crew members are currently lying with

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<v Speaker 1>parasites on their faces. Everybody's kind of in an okay, okay,

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.000
<v Speaker 1>jolly mood because the food's coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this, then, is this like

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<v Speaker 2>in the few sure of alien enough, like is this

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<v Speaker 2>just like a normal really bad day at the office,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you you're like aware when you go into this,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh god, man, like it not that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>could get Just give me the fucking face hugger at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, man, because I know it's all going badly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like this section.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all kind of like, oh well, and I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, sure, So Tangs is smoking. He refused to

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<v Speaker 1>stop smoking. We discover that the fuel is gone and

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<v Speaker 1>they're flying on fumes again. Everybody's kind of very jocular

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<v Speaker 1>and just like, you know, like that very alien before

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<v Speaker 1>the chest burster kind of vibe. We watched the young

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<v Speaker 1>engineer of the engineering department just gulp down the science

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<v Speaker 1>officers water. Morrow addresses everyone and basically says, listen, the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation is about to get fucking real now because someone

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<v Speaker 1>in this room is a saboteur and so just be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that. And if anybody wants a full share,

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<v Speaker 1>they will pass me information that leads to an arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's it, and let's take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>come back. And we're back from from lunch break and

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<v Speaker 1>smoke break.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I will say of this scene, N I will now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I would just say it give it

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<v Speaker 2>a group chat, the early group chat, small bit of

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<v Speaker 2>rage bait.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't like the a d R. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe maybe in the podcast version it will be

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<v Speaker 1>it will the sound mix will sound better. But it

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<v Speaker 1>sounded so obviously adr and not the kind of naturally

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<v Speaker 1>town like talking over each other kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't I don't know, it didn't do it for me,

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<v Speaker 1>this particularly scene. And also it felt weird that like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to your point, yeah, working for Whalen you Twani

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<v Speaker 1>is so crazy, like like dangerous?

0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:33.240
<v Speaker 2>Better than Hermit's job? Is this better than mining on Romulus?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you get good food, you get a little bit freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not constantly, but you get to be in cry

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<v Speaker 2>or sleep? Is the hazard worth it? I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>that is what they're trying to tell us it because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is acting real chill about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I said Bob Town. I meant Bob Altman, Robert

0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:54.040
<v Speaker 1>all like that kind of Robert Altman. That alien really

0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.200
<v Speaker 1>nails in that scene and makes it feel like a workplace. Yeah,

0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520
<v Speaker 1>this one felt like Joelle the in the chat is

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<v Speaker 1>saying it sticks out because they really nailed it an alien.

0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:08.199
<v Speaker 1>They really did exactly anyway, h the doc and the

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<v Speaker 1>acting captain, they they're part of uh you know. Marrow

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<v Speaker 1>has said, everybody go off in pairs. They go off

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<v Speaker 1>to try to figure out how to catch the alien.

0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Marrow begins the interrogations. We learned that one of the

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:27.159
<v Speaker 1>crew is potentially a recovering addict and was off camera

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<v Speaker 1>for ten minutes, but he seems very sincere in his

0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:38.840
<v Speaker 1>refutations of him being the saboteur. Elsewhere down in engineering,

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<v Speaker 1>we have stirrings. First of all, the stirrings of a

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:47.520
<v Speaker 1>class conscience, consciousness. As the older like Irish engineer is

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, I think this is Laddin. This is how

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<v Speaker 1>it always is. You think there won't be a hierarchy

0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.280
<v Speaker 1>in space, and you get to yeah, get to space,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a hierarchy out here. But what also

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<v Speaker 1>stirring is the fucking tadpoles and they.

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.880
<v Speaker 2>They are also having a close consciousness discussion. They're like, yes,

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 2>out here, like we could run better than this, we

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>could run better than this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, young engineer vomits blood and collapses Meanwhile in the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor in the lab. The doctor realizes, oh shit, the

0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>eye is running around. Now shit is really starting to

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<v Speaker 1>unravel with an alacrity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now it starts to get like fully grotesque, like

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:32.480
<v Speaker 2>alien are.

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<v Speaker 1>Very, very, very bad. So meanwhile, there's an emergency in

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the med bay because of this young engineer. The doctor leaves,

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.280
<v Speaker 1>leaves the science lab and seals it because we don't

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:50.359
<v Speaker 1>know where this fucking eye is. Morrow is questioning Tang.

0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Tang is way too cool to not be involved. But

0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I guess he's not involved. Somehow we find he's just

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like. Imagine this very weird guy.

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you're like the office creep right, and all

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.160
<v Speaker 2>day every day you're just trying to creep and you're

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.439
<v Speaker 2>like so aware of it, and you're like, oh man,

0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone's gonna notice me creep in on this day when

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the aliens break out of the med bay, breakout of

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the lab, you are so happy because you can smoke

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty five cigarettes, you can creep on the girl, and

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 2>you are like low low low on the on the

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:29.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of tempole of bad things going on on the Imagine, Oh, it's.

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:34.320
<v Speaker 1>It's very tough. Let me just say male Asian actors

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>have been losing on streaming. We hear the one is

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the office creep and on slow horses. He's like, literally

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 1>the most annoying character ever put to my television screen.

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>That being said, we move on, We move on. Tangman says,

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you see it? It's right in front of your face.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't realize what's going on. This is when I'm oh,

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.680
<v Speaker 1>there's two eyes and one of them ownership and he's

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. This is not the case. I was

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>completely wrong about I like that. But he basically says.

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.600
<v Speaker 1>He basically tells Marrow like someone else is awake and

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 1>knows how to get out of their maybe sets a

0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>timer or something and is secretly sneaking out of their

0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>their cryopod. The question is who. Marrow then goes back

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to his office to kind of crush film and try

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>and figure out who it could be. He looks at

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<v Speaker 1>all the deleted files on the ship and discovers that

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<v Speaker 1>the chief engineer had been talking to a boy cavalier

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>about purposely crashing the chip on Prodigy territories so that

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Prodigy could just swoop up the Aliens. Marrow heads off

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to confront him and I will say I was shockingly

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 1>impressed by whaland Utani's privacy protocols that this conversation didn't

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<v Speaker 1>immediately trigger some kind of alarm that you could erase

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that and actually someone would have to go in and

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>look at it to figure out that, like obvious corporate

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 1>espionage was occurring.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the interesting thing about trying to do retro

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.960
<v Speaker 2>futuristic sci fi in a world where we are living

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:30.719
<v Speaker 2>in like a high tech security surveillance state is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of what you find yourself questioning are those things

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<v Speaker 2>that when Alien was originally made in seventy nine were

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 2>not the biggest concerns of like freedom and how you

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.520
<v Speaker 2>would have freedom. So it is really funny to think, like, wait,

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you could do that and it wouldn't just be flagged

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:50.200
<v Speaker 2>by the word sabotage like let alone anything else?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do you, like, how do you how do

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you just know you could just call Cryo? Yeah, And

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you just cold call Research Islands and Prodigy

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Territory by the way, to talk to a guy that

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't born when you left Earth? Like how do you

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>even fucking know?

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>A lot of questions You're raising some good questions that

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like must be answered by the end of

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the season.

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we gotta kind of figure out me like, probably

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>boy Cavalier or somehow like contacted the ship, but like, Okay,

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>how do I suspect because I don't.

0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I think there's gonna have to be a connection between

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 2>boy Cavalier and Whale and Utani that we haven't yet

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>understood because he has too much knowledge of their tech.

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 2>And also then Morrow finds it too easy to get.

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Into his tech.

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think maybe there's some kind of crossover there.

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.679
<v Speaker 2>There's something about the way the boy Genius bought like

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 2>he bought secrets or he stole tech or something, or

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 2>he was a you know, Whalen Utani.

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because again, how would this guy know something he is?

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>This company started, yeah, while they were in space like

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>did not exist when they like.

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Did it as soon as they go out for the

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>little like well, I guess they do establish that they

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>have to get out like every six months or every

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 2>year or whatever is to like eat food and like

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>smoke a cigarette and then get back in.

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess, so maybe it's something like.

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeahh boy Genius was just paging people like, hey, guys

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>want to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Corpri Esper.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know me at all, because I wasn't bored

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>when you left. But my name is I just started

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>this company called Proty of the Earth. We don't apparently

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Marblo's Akryo. He finds the chiefs pot empty, so it's

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent that guy. But before he can continue that,

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>there's another fucking alarm on the ship from med Bay.

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Margo's over there. He tells the acting captain who's watching

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>through the glass, watching like a procedure wrapping through the glass,

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's the chief engineer, but she can't really focus

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>because she's watching them deal with this young engineer who's

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>like vomiting blood and they're scan him. He's got like

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 1>he's getting eat up from the inside. He's got all

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>these like gross cockroaches in him.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>They kind of like bugs and yeah, so scary.

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>They open them up and it's like ticks they call them.

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>He's filled with ticks. It's not ticks, come on, it's

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like a tick.

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>That's a giant slog gets kind of similar to the

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 2>slug that we saw in the Sandwich.

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Very gross, and I did really.

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Love this moment, which I felt like again was like

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>a kind of new ish moment that you see where

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 2>when they pull them off, they kind of release the

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 2>spoils gas and the two other people die.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Like sorry guys, but.

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>We're skipping ahead. Uh. Meanwhile, this is happening elsewhere. The

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>alien drops from the ceiling and kills Tang, who I

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>thought was going to be more involved with the story,

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>but is immediately.

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Take Yeah, I know, I was surprised by that.

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, as I was like, are they

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>really just gonna kill Tang or is this gonna come back?

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they can't just kill him, but sure,

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we'll see.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Morrow meanwhile, is like stop doing surgery on this guy,

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>like that's he's supposed to just cry o him, Like

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to be doing this, dude, But they

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>continue that. They continue the surgery, which credits to the

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>doctor whose hippocratic oath apparently still exists in this future,

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>and that's when the bug releases the fart gas.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So Marrow is and they start reacting like they might die. Honestly, yeah,

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they're dying.

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>A bleed in the bleed in.

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to make it. So Marrow hits like

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the freeze everything button that basically shoots, like I don't know,

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>some kind of like liquid nitrogen type very cold substance

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>into the room and freeze everything. Everything is dead now

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>except the bugs, which are still kind of like running.

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 2>As we said, they can exist in the deep vacuum

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>of space. They can exist in a call dry.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>The cold is not working on it. News then comes

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that Tang is dead, folks. It's all going sideways, very

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Morrow is like, okay, everybody to the bridge.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>We stay there. We figure out how to get the

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>ship in orbit and not on a crash course so

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that we can triage this entire situation. We call down

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to Earth, get a cleaning team sent up here, and

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>we secure this whole thing. Okay, I'm in control. Let's

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>do this. Morrow is of course, still insisting on delivering

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the specimens safe safely. I'm sure that if you ask

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>the surviving crew at this moment, they'd all be like

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck that they don't Yeah, I.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Mean I would, just I'm I'm like, I don't they

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>they didn't try and kill Morrow quickly enough for me.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I get it. He's a main character.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 2>He has some plow armor and also he is a cyborg.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>But I definitely if I was them, I would very

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>quickly have seen the fact that he is more can.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 1>I love the murder the murder side of Rosie coming out,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>but I one hundred percent agree, And you would be

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>would would no one not be justified in being like,

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>this guy doesn't care about me. Yeah, he's gonna lets

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you get killed by aliens exactly and kill him and survive.

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Also for a corporation like that may seem even madder

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 2>that you're gonna kill come on. But also, you know what,

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Joel just pointed out a great point in here, and

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, I think this is actually in

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 2>the credit to this episode, which is a kind of

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>crazy episode where they really try and do a lot

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and they replace some of the biggest tropes from Alien,

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 2>which is a your bandwidth will vary on that. But

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Joel just said, you know, oh, you know, we actually

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>saw all of their corpses. We knew they already died

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 2>by this point in the episode. I was actually so

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 2>invested in all of them that I really was shocked

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>when Tang died. I didn't see that coming, like and

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I did well, even though like I had seen it,

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I kind of. I was engrossed enough at this point

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 2>that there was still a level of suspense an entree,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>even though we knew the outcome.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a good point that I just thought he would

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>be more involved in this episode's story than he was,

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>because he had such a I want this baby. I

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>wan't know why he cares, because the ominous energy coming

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>off of him was it felt like there was more there,

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So I was very surprised to see him.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>We felt like the reason that he was invested in

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the other woman in the pod was probably because he

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>was a synth and he was protecting the aliens. But

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>then we saw obviously that Morrow is the cyborg. Morrow

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 2>is the one who is charged with doing that. I

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 2>still think there's more there. I will be I would

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>be personally surprised if we don't see that followed up

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>on even a little bit at some point throughout the

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 2>rest of the season, because, like you said, it was

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>a very ominous introduction and it felt like it was

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>hinting at more.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Morrow gets into a shootout with the chief engineer

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>who suddenly appears. Meanwhile, the bugs are just running around everywhere.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>The Eye is out and running around a marrow impales

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the chief with his blade hand and then the captain

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>acting captain runs into the fully adult alien. We get

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a chase. She runs into the old engineer, who now

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>has the eye in him. Ah, so scary by the

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>eye and this means very yet say what happens next,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>because I think you can't really unless you're gonna have

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>like the big yoga oh no sunglasses, Like it's very

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's very noticeable.

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>And this guy had kind of a big head like me,

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>like has a tiny head. If they put the eye

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>in there, you're gonna.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Know you're gonna see it.

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna see it.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>So Morrow comes crawling out of the vents. He's moving

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>around through the vents, which I just love that he's

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>doing that. The alien. The engineer kind of like shouts

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in this very strange way that I couldn't I couldn't

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>decide if he was At first I thought, oh, he's

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>calling the alien because the alien shows up. But then

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, was he warning them, trying to warn them

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that hey, the xenomorphous here?

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Because then is what I couldn't work out is like

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it definitely sounds similar to the sounds that we've kind

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>of heard Wendy hearing. So it's definitely some kind of communication.

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>But I did wonder if it's like, was the engine

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>it because he was taken.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Over by the eye.

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>He could only communicate that way, so maybe that's why

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>it sounded like that.

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 3>But it did seem like he yells.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Something strange, kind of sounding a bit like a rap to,

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 2>like a.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Kind of thing.

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>And then the alien arrives.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now because of what happens next, because they

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>begin fighting, like he's like, Okay, let me, it's not

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>my body. I don't give a shit. I'm gonna try

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to fight this alien. So they try fight, and so

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a good guy?

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>What is the idolist?

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Like secretly a good guy?

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very let's discuss this. Let's pause on that, because

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to discuss it. I will say that all

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the the way the plot is pointing, is it. The

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>story certainly wants you to empathize with the eye, and

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely pro I at this point. And the engineer's

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>body gets absolutely torn up in this fight because there's

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>no way that a human is anywhere near as strong

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>as an alien, and the eye pops out and survives,

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>but then also tries to get in that the alien

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>has no eyes really but it's but the alien was

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>struggling with the eye was really like trying. It was

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like the fucking thing off me, which was also very interesting.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>And then from there it's basically what we've seen. Mara

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>runs into the mother panic room, the acting captain's pounding

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>on the door, He welds the door shut, gets into

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the survival pod and lives. And then we get flash

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>forward to the present. Moorrow is meeting with new Utani

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>somewhere where are the meeting by the way, where is

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>this happening? I guess there's a ship on the on

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the top of this building that they're meeting at. So

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess they exfiltrated him from the Prodigy Island to Territory.

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe or maybe before maybe he landed. Yeah, there's an

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>embassy passing New Siam. I don't know, because he was

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 2>in the cap He was in the capsule, and then

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like he woke up in New Siam, but

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that could also be a fake out.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I guess he could have gone here first.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And well, I.

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Think this is clearly this is clearly this is.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Clearly happening in them be An arbitration yet, right, so

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 2>this is I think this is clearly happening, like after

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 2>the events of the previous episode, like in the in

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the present continuity, they managed to grab him off Prodigy territory.

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Bring him to Utani territory, and we learned that Utani's

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>grandmother of the original Utani og Utani took him, took

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>him off the streets. He was a boy with like

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>a paralyzed armor, like a withered arm or something. Yeah,

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>he had some kind of a cyborg yeah. And he promises, listen,

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>not only am I getting all the cargo, I'm gonna

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>kill boy Cavalier too. I'm gonna kill him.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 3>She's I'm gonna fucking kill that bitch, and you really.

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Will hold kill him.

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, My lawyers are handling. We're an arbitration right now.

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>With the lawyers trying to figure out like the returning

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to thing. He's like no, no, no, no, no.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 3>He said, unless the lawyers are soldiers.

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>He was like, we're doing this my way.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>So and so, like, you know what, give him give

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.399
<v Speaker 1>him the unlimited Utani Platinum card.

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 4>Dude.

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like in Batman and Robin when he's like.

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Put it on my bat visa or whatever.

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, he's got like he's got the Utani

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Master cod the your Tani Venmo account.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 3>She said, put it on the cash, app him the.

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Money, do what he needs to do.

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's seek a quick break and then we'll discuss our

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>thoughts about this episode. And we are bad.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the I I here's my concern because I

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>am pro I, I am Jason is officially pro I,

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and this true God is a visually pro iky I

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>me Joel am wondering if this now is gonna put

0:35:53.719 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>us into conflict with Wendy, who is pro xenomorph, because

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>are the Eye and the Xenomorph like natural enemies or

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>will there be like a like a broader team up

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of Xenomorph and Eye and and Synthetic against the people.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm I.

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Think that you're right to be pro I at this point.

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the Eye is doing its little best and

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>it's seeing what it can see.

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>With its eight lenses or whatever.

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that it is unclear where we're at at

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 2>this point, because I did find it very interesting that

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 2>we had that moment of the fire of the the

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 2>engineer actually fighting and trying to like bite through the

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>neck of the zenim off with the eye and this eye.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting.

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued, but I think that ultimately that will put

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the Eye on the side of Wendy, because I think

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to be on the side of it.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I do wonder because we're talking about too kind of

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>clearly like apex creatures, like not just to not being

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the top alien. Joelle puts a very trenching observation in

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the chat that in episode one oh one, we had

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that moment where Wendy pre procedure, was looking at the

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>scorpion in a tank and is having that conversation with Kersh,

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>where Kersh is like should I kill it? Like what

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>if he's just protecting his friend? So I think the eye, well,

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the eye is protecting anyone, but again,

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it's fascinating know that the eye tried to warn the

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 1>science officer that the bugs were out, So I think

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be allied with the Eyes somehow.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I think that you're right that. I also thought that

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>was interesting because the science officer and then have kind

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of science pal who is the who with the two

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>doing the sagery. They were the most kind of humane,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 2>like sensible people that we met, based on like the

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of conversations they were having, the thoughts they had

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>about the ship.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested in that.

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm also intrigued as to whether or not, like is

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the eye gonna exist inside the sheep goat? Is it

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>still alive? Like what are we thinking about that? Like

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>is it gonna take over somebody else? Does the I

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 2>go into Nibs and then Nibs becomes like an a

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>oh or Wendy and becomes like an alien synth human

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>hybrid or something. But I think I too and pro

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I I'm interested to see if there is a pro

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 2>zenomorph kind of movement from Wendy or if the Xenomorph

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 2>is essentially gonna be like a dog in Wendy's fight. Also,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I will say lots of complaints going on in the

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>world about not enough goo on the alien, and I

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>have to say this episode definitely not gooey. I didn't

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>think the alien was gooey enough, really, I mean, I

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>thought it was very dry. When you say he's shiny

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 2>but dry. I think it that the Xenomorph needs to.

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Be someone's sweet on that alien.

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Somebody spell on him. Little him up anyway. Okay, So

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Joelle has a great question. Ni, Yeah, yeah, do you

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 2>think this is one of the interesting things about watching

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>a movie, watching a show based on a movie that

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>came out before other formative movies. So do you think

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 2>this episode holds up as an alien story or does

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 2>it feel more like a rip off of the kind

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 2>of paranoia, body horror of like the Thing.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see the influences of certainly the thing

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>in there.

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I will I think it's different.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's different that that. Until she brought it

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>up in the chat, I really was not thinking about it. Yeah,

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I will say that obviously I love the alienness of this,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But strangely counterintuitively, the parts that kind of work the

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>least for me are the parts where they are putting

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>their finger on the most obvious like alien reference. It's

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>like the cafeteria cross top scene just didn't. It's like,

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.959
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you improve on perfection? I believe,

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I truly believe that that is so good? I don't know.

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 1>So it's that kind of thing that works the least

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:17.439
<v Speaker 1>for me, where whereas all the stuff that's inspired by

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>inspired by the esthetic and the look and is just

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like letting the story unfold in that setting

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>works the best for me. I think so too.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the stuff that is more unique and that

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>they're introducing, even like the notion of the eye and stuff,

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>is the stuff that works the best. I think it's

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>different enough to me from the Thing, because I think

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a major part of the horror of the Thing is

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>like not knowing who to trust based on like what

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>is residing inside them. But this is all about kind

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 2>of knowing what's residing inside the person and still not

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>knowing what to trust, which I.

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Think is like a different conversation.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I was invested in all the characters,

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.360
<v Speaker 2>but I really like the new engineer.

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was a good role.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I felt like they did a good job writing these characters,

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>even though they were.

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Any next for a little while. But Jason, that kind.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Of leads to the next question, which is you in

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a situation with the first episode where you were like,

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>the time on the ship is unnecessary.

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 3>We know, like who cares, We've.

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Seen alien, we know what's gonna happen, It's gonna crash.

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel post this episode?

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel I feel it, I feel it even

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>probably that shit. And I would honestly be surprised if anybody,

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>if anybody truly thinking about it, didn't kind of agree, Like,

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I love this show, point blank. This is a great episode.

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a great show. It's somebody was watched. It's really enjoyable.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I would ask anyone to look inside themselves and tell

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>me the truth. Were you not a little disappointed that

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>two out of the final five minutes of this episode,

0:41:51.160 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of this crackling episode were exactly a scene you've seen before.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>You literally just they just replayed the scene. Why not

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>just start there, crash the ship, and then we meet

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the crew later? Like we didn't. I just felt like

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we didn't need it.

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a good call.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And I feel even stronger after watching this episode where

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna meet the crew, that we could have just

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.720
<v Speaker 1>jumped into the story of the kids, crash the ship,

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>meet the kids, learn about them because we're going to

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>meet the crew later.

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think that's a good I think

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you make a good call.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I also think like just that, and.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Joelle, do you disagree? Come in here now, hey said Joel,

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>come in it right now.

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Dore you disagree?

0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 4>No, that was cracking off over here.

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 4>But that's why I wanted your thoughts on it, because

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 4>when I first watched it, I really felt strongly that

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.919
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you one hundred percent. When I first

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 4>watched the pilot, I was like, Oh, I really like

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 4>this scene.

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I liked that we got a little bit.

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 4>I love a lot of these actors, and I thought

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 4>it was a nice setup of this like very seemingly

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 4>peaceful spaceship where you could kind of see the clacks

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 4>and the crew and then it literally crashes to Earth

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's like.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>A really intrigue opening to me.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 4>But I agree with you now that it's like, especially

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>the last few minutes being exactly the same and not

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 4>really revealing anything new like that kind of hurts. And

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 4>then I also think, you know, we got so much

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 4>of them here, you wouldn't really miss them in the

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 4>first episode.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm wondering if there was a more, like if.

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 4>The scorpion scene just shouldn't have been the opening because

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 4>it seems to be the crush for everything else. So yeah,

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 4>and I totally agree.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 3>With you, Jason.

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, also let me ask you Joelle join us for

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>this final question. Then, Okay, we kind of talked a

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>little bit about the lack of maybe some depth that

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we were feeling in the show. People have been talking

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>about style versus substance. How do you two feel after

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 2>this episode? Do you feel, Joelle, like it has.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Brought more to it?

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like it still needs a little bit

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>more of that deep a depth? What are you feeling

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>right right now?

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm still not feeling the deep well ocean of like

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 4>legion contemplation that you would like. And you were like,

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 4>I got to cond of play my life the point

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 4>of humanity, like ethics, Like you're really swimming in like

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 4>a deep thought barrel. You're still a little surfacey here.

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 4>What I will say is this show gives you a

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:19.879
<v Speaker 4>lot of space to try to filling gaps yourself, which

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 4>I do wonder if maybe, especially if you're adding onto

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 4>a series in a prequel format where you'll have no

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 4>control of what comes after, it's kind of nice to

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 4>be like, there's some pretty broad things that you can

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 4>speculate about as fans that cement a couple of things

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 4>and make things a little bit clearer here and there.

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 4>It adds to the lore. Yeah, I was watching the

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 4>rock Stars earlier and they were talking about how at

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 4>the top of Alien there are governments. Corporations are not

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 4>rule where they're an actual government, and I was like, oh,

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 4>I totally forgot that. So not only just something happened

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 4>to Prodigy at the end of this thing, but like

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 4>all of these companies used to have more power, like

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 4>have more power now where we are in the show

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 4>than they will in the future of the series. And

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I thought that that was really intriguing. That is interesting

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 4>viewing a lot to like if you're a fan to

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 4>munch On, But I think if you're just I don't know,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 4>like an intellectual watcher, it's not that deep.

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I do agree. Listen. I mean I mentioned that the

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>boy Cavalier corporate espionage of the ship that's been in

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>space for sixty years like doesn't make sense because he

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>was like he's thirty or something like he was.

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Born Yeah, maybe he's like twenty three maybe and.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Then launched his company, you know, like maybe fifteen years

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 1>ago like so or or probably less. So how does

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he contact them? How do they know who he is? Like,

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 1>there's that kind of stuff. Is to Joel's point, it

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.719
<v Speaker 1>like it's a shallower pool than it appears to me.

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 1>But I will say that the style is this. When

0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the style is cracking like this, that's you know what

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like I don't get performances. Yes, and I

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>will say that one thing this show did, and I'll

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>say it again that I think is is I'm truly

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>loving is I'm pro Alien. I've never been that's crazy

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm crazy pro yep the I and I gotta

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 1>say like I'm xanomorep curious.

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Animal questioning also also as well, well maybe maybe.

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Jason, maybe you speak.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I think you're speaking of something quite interesting here too,

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.360
<v Speaker 2>with the style of a substance. Is like if the

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>original Alien movie, which I do believe is like a

0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 2>perfect movie, if that is so brilliant, has so much

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to say about corporate kind of overreach and the way

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 2>working class people are used in blue collar jobs and

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 2>exploitation of bodies, then maybe Noah Hawley this time just

0:46:57.200 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 2>gets to make something incredibly stylish and entertaining and doesn't

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 2>have to be the one adding the juice, adding the depth,

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 2>adding the psychological exploration.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Because that is already there in the text.

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 2>I have also been reading a lot of reddits the

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Alien hardcore fans are not loving how uncannon. This all

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>is like there are other corporations that were involved that

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>they haven't heard of.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 3>There were governments.

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 2>But I believe, I trust that by the end of

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>this week are going to have a much more in

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>line because that's just the nature of what Disney and

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 2>twentieth century like nowadays. Kind of cannon.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm very interested.

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's another fun, kind of rioteous episode. And

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 2>Carmen is a hardcore alien fan who knows the law.

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 1>She loves it.

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Sucks with this show, she loves it.

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 2>So, you know what, I'm excited what happens next because

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty crazy.

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Episode, kind of like a Halloween or a Late Friday

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the Thirteenth movie. I am simply like like salivating at

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the reckoning.

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 5>I can't Yeah, every cavalier get killed, ready, we need

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 5>to see him, wait for him on the rest of

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 5>these fucking like uh animal experiment scientists like human vampires

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 5>to absolutely get ran through.

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>By some aliens.

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I can't wait and contemplate this. Everyone thinks that they

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 4>stumbled upon the ship. He has not confided in anyone

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 4>that we've seen that.

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a great like the guy I thought was like

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 2>his closest like Hench.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 4>He was like, yo, we should probably give the back Yeah. Yeah,

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 4>and then and then you know, the scientists obviously don't know.

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 4>So is he acting completely solo? Is this completely just

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 4>hid mission or again, are there additional members of the team.

0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 4>We don't know about.

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Additional interest from outside of Prodigy. That was great, Joel,

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 2>thank you for joining us. I appreciate you coming in

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 2>last minute. And you can't wait to talk pre round

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 2>table pre roundtable roundtable, can't wait to talk about this more, Okay,

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.799
<v Speaker 2>and Joelle says she believed. I just want to say

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>common says she believes that he is being puppeted.

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 3>He is a puppet with Cavalier, the boy Cavalier is.

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 2>A puppetulated by am which makes a lot of sense.

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>But I'm I'm still interested. I don't know.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who's puppetting him.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>They definitely they did have a good moment last week

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 2>which a lot of people caught onto, which.

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Was they miss quoted.

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.240
<v Speaker 2>They said it was like it it was an asthmav quote,

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 2>but it.

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Was actually Arthur C. Clarke or the other way round.

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.359
<v Speaker 2>So they're kind of playing into the ideas that he's

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 2>dumb and that he doesn't really know what he's talking

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:43.919
<v Speaker 2>about and he's kind of a show off.

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it will be interesting to see.

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Only only three episodes left, guys, so very interesting to

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 2>see as we head towards the inevitable horrible death of

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 2>boy Cavalier fingers.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Ah looking forward to it. On the next episode of

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision, the ex Vision group Chat reconvenes to

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 1>determine the episode two and three of Peacemaker season two

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>live up to the highs of the first episode, what

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>legacy the conjuring series leaves in its horrific wake, and

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>whether or not to switch to is really an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepsion and Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kletman.

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<v Speaker 2>Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack.

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<v Speaker 1>A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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