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Speaker 1: How's it going, Hey, you know, I'm just learning all

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Speaker 1: the breaking news still about Biden being sick and old

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because the liberals who denied it for

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Speaker 1: Well, also, the logic is so circular. Sure, everyone in

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Speaker 2: But the twenty percent who didn't think that Biden was

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Speaker 1: So that is a problem we do need to talk

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Speaker 1: For the latest chapter in this saga, we give thanks

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Speaker 1: the Senior Home. It's vertically titled Original Sin, The Book

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Speaker 1: that Seeing and host Jake Tapper and Axios's Alex Thompson

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Speaker 1: It's just going to be easier than they're warm up right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I'm also I'm Russian, so this jinxing.

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Speaker 1: I will do that, but flag football, come on. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good luck to you guys.

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