1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in Texans huddle after the bye week. I am 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: in D She's DP, and not every day do you 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: get to sit next to a Heisman Trophy winner. The 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: only Heisman Trophy winner of the Houston Cougar is still 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why that statue's not there. But 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: you know what, we'll talk about that later. We'll talk 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: about that later. Make it happen. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Andre were in the seat next, So good to be 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: in with you, guys. This has been a long time coming. 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: You know how long I've been wanting to get on 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: the air and just talk football with you and listen 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: to your shows all the time, and then finally, finally. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: Not as long as I've wanted to jump on air 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: with you. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: So you have never crossed paths, No, we haven't. Your 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: time together, not on air. 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: He's always been a guy that I We've always talked 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: and he's always given me advice, But as far as 19 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: just doing something together, it hasn't happened. 20 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 4: And you guys did the same thing in the preseason. 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 3: You were doing color for TV and Andre was doing 22 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: color for radio. 23 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: So we talked then and obviously we we uh, we 24 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: shared some We had long conversations notes the season. Sorry 25 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: we didn't share, no, but we just shared I guess 26 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: strategy so to speak, and different things like that. But 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: it's He's We've always talked and communicated. We've just never 28 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: been on the air together. 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: You know. It's funny because I listen, especially if I'm 30 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: on the road when the Texans are playing, so I'm 31 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: always listening to to the games. And this isn't a 32 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: knock against anybody. You know, Mark is more. No matter 33 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: what happens, I have to be pro Texans and not 34 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: saying Andre is it? But Andre like, no, that was 35 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: a bad play on air. He'll be like, no, it's 36 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: okay to say it's something, and I'll just be driving 37 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: my car just laughing, Like, look, if there's one guy 38 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna keep it real regardless of who signing the 39 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: check is Andre. You have to appreciate that. 40 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: He's even better in person. 41 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: I feel like because you hear what he says on 42 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: the air and then you see his reactions in the booth, and. 43 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: That's actually really funny. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's it's funny. 44 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad it didn't come across over the airs. 45 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Probably gotten close, but maybe I notice because I know you, 46 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: and I know. 47 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: You know Dre, you know you know where his frustrations 48 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: coming from. But I love you like just as a 49 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: former quarterback, like everything that you've been able to it 50 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: seems like this is such a nice gift to get 51 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: to call these CJ. 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Stride It is. 53 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: It's every single week. 54 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, some of the quarterback play over the last 55 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: few years, it's been gut wrenching, to be quite honest. 56 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: But this is a breath of fresh air to watch 57 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: this young man come in and do what he's doing. 58 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: A big fan before, and then you sit and you 59 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: watch the games back and you're even more more of 60 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: a fan than when you're actually calling the games. He 61 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: anticipates like a veteran quarterback, the ball comes out like 62 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback. I was on Carolina Panthers radio yesterday 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: and we were talking about the obviously the subject of CJ. 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: Strode and then you know Bryce Young. I told him 65 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: we got the best better of that deal, and I 66 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: had to pay a hefty price, but we got the 67 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: better of the deal because of all the things that 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: I just just just described. And he gives this chance, 69 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: this team a chance to win every single time they 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: touched the field. 71 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Do you think pre draft, when they're evaluating CJ. Stroud, 72 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: it seems like the majority of the so called draft 73 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: gurus and draft experts had Bryce Young and they were wrong. 74 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: They're in different positions and they were wrong. But what 75 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: did they miss from CJ? From college? 76 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: I think I think the decision was made, Oh, look 77 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: at the competition that Alabama faces. Well, he's facing the 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: same thing at Ohio State. You know, Well, he's used 79 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: to playing in front of big crowds. Well, Ohio State's 80 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: the same thing. You go to you see the Penn 81 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: State game last weekend, how crowded the stadium was. You 82 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: get that at Michigan you get I mean, he's played 83 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: in big games, so this is not too big for him. 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: He's been there and done that already. And I think 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: a lot of draft guys really missed on that. 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: Part of it, doesn't It seem like everybody, and I 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: remember this during the draft process, that everybody was giving 88 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: credit everywhere else but to Stroud. Oh, well he's got 89 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: great receivers, which he did. He's got a great O line, 90 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: he has a great this, a great that. But it 91 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: seemed like the credit that was really due to him. 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: We still didn't give enough credit. He was still drafted. 93 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: There have been a lot of guys that have had 94 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: great supporting cast and still didn't deliver. Somebody's got to 95 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: get him the ball, you know, and in stride so 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: that they become the great receivers that that we talk about. 97 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: And he was the distributor. And that's really really all 98 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: he has to do here. He's got good talent around him. 99 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Nico is growing up right in front of our faces. 100 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz is coming around at tight end. So there 101 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: are weapons for CJ here and and he's doing he's 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: starting to do exactly what he did at Ohio State, 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: and that's distributed the football. 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: We talk a lot about CJ, as we should, But 105 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: when I've watched quarterbacks, there have been quarterbacks in the 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: past that I felt like they were just in the 107 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: wrong position and then the other And when I say 108 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: wrong position, I mean the wrong organization, exact situation. That's 109 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: what I should say. In there, done that, you know 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then there are guys where I 111 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: feel like they're in the perfect situation and then they 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: did and I'll even say this, and I think he's 113 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: the great most accomplished pro athlete of all time in 114 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So I'm not knocking him. I've already said 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: he's the best to do it. But I believe there's 116 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: an alternate universe. If he wasn't at New England where 117 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: he was when he was in New England, we might 118 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: not know who he is then. On the flip side, 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: because I want to get your take on this as well, 120 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: there's a guy I used to follow for whatever reason, 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Matt Lioner, and I feel like in a different situation, 122 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: he could be a household name. So absolutely talk to 123 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: me about it. Absolutely. And you make a great, great point. 124 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: When you come into the NFL and you're drafted high, 125 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: you're drafted high for a reason, and you're going to 126 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: a place that's not very good. Longevity for a quarterback 127 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: is if that staff and that system stays in place. 128 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: How many system did Brady play in is and his 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: entire time in New England. I think the same because 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: even when they changed and they they're still running the 131 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: same system. You can say the same thing about Terry Bradshaw. 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: You can say the same thing about Joe Montana. I 133 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: can Troy. I can go down to just a laundry 134 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: list of guys that played in the same system, and 135 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: we look at him as all time greats. There's only 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: been one that had to change and went to multiple systems, 137 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: yet he still was a pro bowler and all of 138 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: these places that he went, I want to guess. 139 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: I guess too. 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: The partners in a foundation together called Brother Warm Warm Moon. 142 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: That's the only one. Everywhere he went he had success. 143 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: He's in the run and shoot in Houston. They trade 144 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: him to Minnesota. He goes to more of a drop back. 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: They have success in Minnesota. He ends up in Kansas City, 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: they still are having success. Then he goes and finish 147 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: his career in Seattle, where they had success. He was 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: able to execute from within every system. You get a 149 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: guy like Brady, him in the running shootes, he is 150 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: as successful when you have to move more and throw 151 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: the football. A lot of fans are going to argue, yes, 152 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: but just because it's Tom Brady, you and I know 153 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: that's not that's not feasible. So, uh, there's only been 154 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: one and the rest of them. When you have the 155 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: same system to go back, and that's the luxury of 156 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: having Bill Belichick as your head coach those that system 157 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: stays in the house and they build on it every 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: single year that he comes back. 159 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I think I found another one. 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: And then maybe Tom going down to Tampa that is 161 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: you know, they they were loaded and ready to go. 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Though, Rich Gannon. 163 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: Gannon was in a system in Minnesota that resembled a 164 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: lot of with with the with the Raiders and what 165 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: he was doing. What he was doing that resembling. And 166 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I only know that because I was in both places, 167 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: because in Minnesota and I was in UH Oakland when 168 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Rich came when Rich came in. 169 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: But when you look at Bryce Young, Okay, so they're 170 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: off to an O and six start, maybe it's too 171 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: early to say the systems a right fit or not. 172 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: I know they've got so much going on with their 173 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: offensive line. But with that being said, and you've got 174 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: Frank Wright that you brought in because you know he's 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: dealt with so many quarterbacks, that's just you know, Meanwhile, 176 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: the Texans have a defensive minded coach, which people thought 177 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: that might be an issue, but when you look at 178 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: the sacks that Bryce Young is taken versus CJ. Stroud, 179 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: and we've had our own issues with the line, as 180 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: you well. 181 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 182 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Does that tell you something just in comparing if you're 183 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: trying to make an apples apples comparison, how the two 184 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: of them have both dealt with that sort of adversity. 185 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: Tells me something because our situation on the offensive line 186 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: here is worse, doesn't in Carolina. What CJ learned in 187 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: a very short period of time, and I expressed this 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: to them on the air yesterday and talking to him, 189 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: we hear the old adage of this guy doesn't make 190 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: the same mistakes twice. I am we are literally living 191 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: with that with CJ. He does not make the same 192 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: mistake twice. So if he's sacked by holding onto the 193 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: football too long, now he's starting to throw it away. 194 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: He didn't care about the percentage. He's under fifty percent 195 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: or sixty percent for the first time all year, and 196 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: that was because of the last game with New Orleans. 197 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: They're bringing heat, nobody's open thrown away lift to come 198 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: back on second and third down. That's the smart way 199 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: to play the position rather than taking sacks. Create momentum 200 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: for the other team, because that's what sacks do. He's 201 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: learned that in a very short period of time and 202 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: knowing how to protect the football, get it out, get 203 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: it away, un let's come back on the next down. 204 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: A lot of quarterbacks don't learn that. They think they 205 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: can outrun everything because they did it on the college level. 206 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: They think they can escape from everything because they did 207 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: it on the This is a totally different animal. CJ 208 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: realizes that I don't quite know that Bryce has gotten 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: there yet. 210 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Because when you look at their sack numbers, Bryce Young 211 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: has sixteen sacks on the season, and I just for 212 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: some reason thought that Stroud's was super low. But Stroud 213 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: has thirteen sacks because he took a majority of them 214 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: in those first. 215 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Times, those early weeks. 216 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the last. 217 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: Four weeks just two sacks. And now the old line's 218 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: getting healthier. So a lot of it just is it 219 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: Bobby slowick in the system? 220 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 4: Does it allow him to do? 221 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: I think you credit to Miko. And here's why, because 222 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: a lot of head coaches always want to have influence, 223 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: They always want to have their hands on everything. Jerry 224 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: Glanville thought he could call offense and defense, and he 225 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: was a defensive guy first. But when you allow your 226 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: coaching staff to coach, guys want to come to work 227 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: for you. And they want to be in the because 228 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: they know they have that there's ah forget the word 229 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: I'm looking for, but they know they're invested in it 230 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: and that they have it's it's theirs. And Demico doesn't mind. 231 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: He didn't have that type of ego where he's got 232 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: to run everything and be in charge of everything. He 233 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: gives a credit where it's due, and that goes a 234 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: long way from not just the guys on your own 235 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: coaching staff, but the players seeing you do that too. 236 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: They know that you trust. 237 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Them all right on the flip side, and I want, 238 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: I do not want to make anybody uncomfortable, but that 239 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: this is something I thought was interesting Deshaun Watson and 240 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: how bad he's playing. When I used to have my 241 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: daily radio. 242 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: Show, I literally just wrote that down. 243 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 4: I'm we are not uncomfortable at all. 244 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: No, not at all. I feel like when I had 245 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: my show and you know, people were trying to predict 246 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: how he was going to return, not enough people thought 247 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: about just his mindset. Because this is a guy, whether 248 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: he's going to admit it or not, he really cared 249 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: about what people thought about it, even especially at quarterback, 250 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: especially quarterback, but with everything going on, off the field. 251 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: Even if all the charges are dropped and that's behind him, 252 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I still think it's messing with his mind that when 253 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,239 Speaker 1: you first think of Deshaun Watson, you think of the allegation, 254 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: and you're starting to see it on this. 255 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: Roll into a visiting stadium, you know what, you know, 256 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: how that's what that's like. And you're getting called every 257 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: name in the book after they've had a few pops, 258 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: you know, at the tailgate. So that's a constant reminder 259 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: every single time. I also have this conversation with Mark 260 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: and John, I said, remember the days when we used 261 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: to compare Lamar to Deshaun. That ain't even a conversation anymore, 262 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: is it. I mean, Lamar has surpassed deshawna He's way 263 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: in the rearview mirror, and that's that's scary and unfortunate 264 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: for DeShawn. It really is well sad to see how 265 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: he's playing right now, and he doesn't need to find 266 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: ways off the field. He needs to find his way, 267 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: a way to stay on the field so that he 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: tries to get back to a simulance of what he was. 269 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask Dray because I actually had 270 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: that game on and he comes out in the first quarter, 271 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: was cleared, but didn't go back into the game. 272 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: And then you know PJ. Walker's leading the Browns, Like. 273 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys. 274 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: If I'm the starter and somebody and I've been in 275 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: a cast and somebody else has taken reps and I 276 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: couldn't get out of it fast enough because that's my 277 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: job and I'm watching somebody else do it better than 278 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: I did it. So I got to get out of 279 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: this dame thing or get my If I can get 280 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: back in the game, I'm going back in. 281 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: Yes. So that to me, that was so odd. 282 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: And then at the end of the game, when they 283 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: were at the goal line and they you know, there 284 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: was a timeout called or the clock was stopped, like 285 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: you see PJ. Walker, you see Stefanski, you see some 286 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: of the other players, but DeShawn was kind of off 287 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: to the side and they kept showing him on the 288 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: on the camera. 289 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't a good look. It wasn't it was not 290 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: a good at all. It wasn't helping PJ. What are 291 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: you seeing? And you know he just this way, you know, 292 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: I adjust this way to when they do this, maybe 293 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: try He was not involved doing whatsoever. It was on 294 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: the seat where they they gave giving him a jack 295 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: big jacket and he had his his his hat on 296 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: snow had that he usually wears. 297 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: You better hope PJ doesn't get comfortable. 298 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: Pj's already comfort. They looked at the eye tests. They're 299 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: a better team or a better offense when Pj's playing. 300 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: And it's been two weeks now than when DeShawn has 301 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: been under center. 302 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: And keep in mind that week. I'm sure he's not 303 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: getting all the reps. That's what I'm saying. If there's 304 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a week or two where he gets all 305 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: the first team reps, then it could get really interesting 306 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: to see what he could do. 307 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: But there's the overriding factor three to one, two hundred 308 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: and thirty one guaranteed he's gonna play guys. 309 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 4: But what like, I cannot, for the life of me, 310 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: figure out what the motivation is. I'm like, is there a. 311 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Clause in his contract where something is void if he 312 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: gets hurt again? Like? 313 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: Why is he not? 314 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 315 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: You know, he wanted to be I thought he was 316 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: the guy that you had to wrestle him off. The 317 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: fact I thought so, and that he showed that at 318 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: times here, So what you're talking about in terms of 319 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: between the ears might actually be factoring in where there's 320 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: a a. 321 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: A dent in the arm, or so to speak. It 322 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: becomes a discussion that's not even a football discussion. But 323 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: I was just surprised that people weren't factory. You know. 324 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: We used to have people call in and say, Oh, 325 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna be great. He's gonna pick up where you 326 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: let no no no nos two years Oh no, your 327 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: w in Because didn't he have a. 328 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: Book like right before all of this came out. 329 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Like it was like a positive selfment. 330 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, there's something serving yeah. 331 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, educating me today. That's that's why I have a 332 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: copy of. 333 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: It around here. 334 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 4: It came out before COVID and before everything. 335 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: That's why I knew his branding was important to It's 336 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: some kind of self help book, you know, and I 337 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: think I had some biblical connotations. So when you're trying 338 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: to present that image and now, like you said, you're 339 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: going into every away stadium and people are calling you 340 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a rapist, are calling you, that's tough to get over 341 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: like that. That's tough, even even if in his mind 342 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: he feels like, he's innocent to know that that's your brand. 343 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: So I knew that was going to be a mental hurdle. 344 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: And and at that position, everything's mental. 345 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely when you get to that level, we can we 346 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: can all throw, we can all move around, we all 347 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: know the pocket and how to manipulate the pocket. It's 348 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: the mental part of the game that is ninety percent 349 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: of the game itself. When you play the quarterback, the 350 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: position of quarterback, pass it on. 351 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: Work hard, serve others. Repeat to Shaun Watson. Available on 352 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: Amazon for fifty percent off dre Yeah. 353 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,479 Speaker 1: He probably. 354 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: Now. 355 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking on him because he's down. But that's 356 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: a tough sale though. 357 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: And it's a weird situation because you're watching the Browns 358 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: and the Colts, and you know, I think all along 359 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: we were Mark and I were discussing this. We're cheering 360 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: for the Browns to lose because we've got the Browns 361 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: draft pick. But now all of a sudden, you find 362 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: yourself in this situation where the Texans a lot of 363 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: people are talking about them being in this wild card mix, 364 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: you know, and so then you're like, well, we don't 365 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: want the Colts to get the win because your neck 366 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: and neck with them as well. 367 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Right, I I can honestly say that I didn't playoffs. 368 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Wasn't even in my mind before the season started. Yeah, 369 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: just win more games than you won last year, and 370 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: let's let's get let's be positive, let's be competitive each 371 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: and every week. That's all I ask for now with 372 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: what with what I'm seeing and how the team has 373 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: responded to Demico, the job that he's doing, the energy 374 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: in the building, it's different. And so you look at 375 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: the division itself. There's no super team in this division. 376 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: There's no Kansas City in the AFC South or you know, 377 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 2: anybody else or Philadelphia in this division is very much 378 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: gettible for anybody. And you've beaten the team already that 379 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: leads the division. So it's there. I mean, it's there 380 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: for the taking, whether it's a divisional, you're the divisional champion, 381 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: or you figure out a way to get in by 382 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: the wild card. I think it's it's very much feasible. 383 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: And you look at the rest of the schedule. They're 384 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: going to be competitive in just about every game. They 385 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: can win every one of them, that includes Tampa Bay 386 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: coming here. 387 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: And you know what, the team is getting healthier too, 388 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 4: and that's a big part. 389 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about Tank Dell because he 390 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: was back at practice yesterday. 391 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: He missed this last. 392 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Get thank's ready. I saw him on Saturday. 393 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: We were both on the sideline at the Cougar game, 394 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: which I'm very, very proud of. 395 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: I know you you can out. I think you got 396 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: one on me. I don't know how the heck that happened. 397 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm still in uh I'm saying, I don't know. 398 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm still having problems with it. I'm still having 399 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: problems with I'm not talking about I'm talking about playing rights. 400 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: I actually have to call him Rice now because they 401 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: were the Crispies, and then when they beat you, you 402 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: call him Rice for a year and then we'll revisit 403 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: next year. But I was, I was, I was beside 404 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: myself losing the Rice. And then this weekend. 405 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: For a DV just so you know, the game started 406 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: the way it was supposed to Rice, like we typically 407 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: just when the game and here we come. We decided 408 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: to start playing football, and we made it a game. 409 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: I just did not want them to get run out 410 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: of the building and to just compete, so much so 411 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: that I told Dana before the game. Just make sure 412 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: you compete for sixty minutes. Just go make sure they 413 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: play hard for sixty minutes. That's all we asked for, 414 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: is the lums. He made sure that happened, and and 415 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: it all and almost pulled up the biggest upset. 416 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let me tell you why. I'm surprised that 417 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: this man, to my rights said that when for some reason, 418 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: we're all different when we retire. When I retired from 419 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, all my competitive juices were just gone. Like 420 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, like, if you beat it up right now, DPM, whatever, 421 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: all my competitive juices gone. My former teammate and good friend, 422 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Robert Smith and I coach a young basketball team and 423 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: we're against and yeah, that's that was myself and Robert's approach. 424 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: We're coaching against No, they don't, but we're coaching against 425 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: Andre's team. And first of all, his team was younger 426 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: than our team. He makes his team play up so 427 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: they get the experience our team. Again, we're just having fun. 428 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: We don't have anybody who could ball handle. He does 429 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: a full court press from the jump for the entire game. 430 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: And Robert and I are looking at each other like 431 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: what is going on? And he's coaching and yelling, and 432 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: I think they're beating us by like thirty and he's 433 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: still donk cousin his players that and I'm like, wow, 434 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: that's what it takes one of Heisman because the competitive 435 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Juicus school, it just never goes away. 436 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: My approach to it all is that I'm getting kids 437 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: ready for what you're going to face. Somebody that's certainly 438 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: going to coach you harder. 439 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Than I am. So if you can, you know, if 440 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: you can play for me, you can play for most coaches. Uh. 441 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: And I just left that actually a high school. That's 442 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: why I was kind of behind off schedule getting here, uh, 443 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: because I was speaking to a high school team Austin 444 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: High School out and but and some of those kids 445 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: have actually played a couple of kids on that team 446 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: played for me. But I'm also coaching years in advance 447 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: and giving knowledge for what you're going to face rather 448 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: than the immediate. And so you know, we we uh, 449 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: we press and we we play hard, and we play 450 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: that way for the entire portion of the game. And 451 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: my reason for doing that is, Yeah, you may be 452 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: up by twenty in this game, but the stuff that 453 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: you've done, some of the things that you've done in 454 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: this game against a better team is going to cost us, 455 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: and so I'm always that's that's my biggest fear is 456 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: that playing against a good competitive team, we make too 457 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: many mistakes and that costs us a game. 458 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: Is there a coach that you like that you really 459 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: responded to as a player, like a great style of coaching. 460 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: It's a great question. The harder you were on me, 461 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: the more I respond. 462 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: To you, that was you, because some players I think 463 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 4: don't respond. 464 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, you got you got moms that the minute you 465 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: raise your voice, it's like, how dare you talk to 466 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: my baby that way? Or you use you know that 467 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, I've some of my best moments. I'm not 468 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: proud of them. I've I've dropped a profanity, you know, 469 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: laden whatever you want to call them. But that's when 470 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: my older kids, that's when they're fourteen and and uh, 471 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: they they're used to hearing those things. When the games 472 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: that he's talking about they were a little bit younger 473 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: at that point in time. Then you got to kind 474 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: of put your arm around them. But in a gym 475 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: that's loud and noisy and you got parents cheering is 476 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: going to I'm across that I'm a little better. I'm 477 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: not trying to I'm not trying to whisper or call 478 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: you over. I'm going to give you instructions while the 479 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: game's going on. 480 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: Andy, what about you? Who did you respond to? 481 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: You know similar? I was the one like if you 482 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: doll cussed me, and I know him in the wrong, 483 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I feel bad and I want to 484 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: make it better to go up to the shell. Then 485 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Tommy Brazier, when I was in Philadelphia, 486 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: I was having a decent run one year with my 487 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: sack total up, and I came off a game where 488 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: I think I had like three sacks and I was 489 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: defensive player of the week and he called me in 490 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: to his office and I was walking up there with 491 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: my chest out and he's an ex military flaws. I 492 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: walked up there thinking he's about to pat me on 493 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: the back and tell me how great I'm playing and this, 494 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: that or the other. As soon as I sit down, 495 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: he says, this is why you'll never be as good 496 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: as Michael Sinclair and somebody he coached. And then he 497 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: just went on and on and talked about it. And 498 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: then on my way out, he was like Oh yeah, 499 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: congrats on the war. So you know those type of coaches. 500 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: Keeping keeping you hungry, That's exactly what that was all about. 501 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: And a lot of coaches will play mental games. If 502 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: you've if you've been around guys that were on the 503 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: Parcels staff, that's all they do. They play mental games 504 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: like that all the time. All these playing them with 505 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: Russell uh Sean Paygnon's playing them with Russell Wilson in 506 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: Denver right this minute. 507 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: All right, well, we're not gonna play any games with you. 508 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: We'll get right back to Texans Huddle. He has been 509 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: trophy winner NFL Color and College Color Analyst. Andre Where 510 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: is sitting to my right, DP to my left. I'm 511 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: in D. This is Texans Huddle. Keep it right here, 512 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: Welcome in, Welcome back, Texans Huddle. I am in D. 513 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: She is DP and Andre Where sitting to my right. 514 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: As I was saying our names n D, DP and 515 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: Andre and Andre. Most guys is obviously you know this 516 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: don't go by their government name. But Andre were like, 517 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: was it a dub? 518 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: Like? What was your. 519 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: Name or abbreviate? 520 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: The very first nickname I ever had given to me 521 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: by my great grandmother was and she said, it's too 522 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: hard to say Andre, and it's too long to say it. 523 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: So I'm calling him Andy. And how she did how 524 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: she got Andy out of Andre is beyond me. But 525 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: that's stuck. So in my hometown, I was Andy Ware interesting, 526 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: really or long before Andre. I think I graduated or 527 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: matured into Andre at some point because I was in 528 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: my hometown. If I'm walking right, walking the streets, riding 529 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: my bike, whatever, I'm Andy. 530 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: About Dickinson High School. When you're making plays, did they 531 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: say Andy Ware with the touchdown? 532 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Teammates called me Andre, classmates call me Andre, anybody else? 533 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: I was Andy Interesting? 534 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 4: You so don't even look like an Andy to me? 535 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: It was Andy, And I answered to him. 536 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: If you if you approached me or someone says Andy Ware, 537 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: I know they're from Dickinson, Texas, and I'm going to 538 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: turn around and greet and talk. 539 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: And I know you're from my hometown. Otherwise you don't 540 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: know that interesting. 541 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you because I was reading great 542 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: article on CJ. Strout on ESPN about his handshakes, So 543 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: he has different handshakes with all the different players, and 544 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: it got me thinking about you. 545 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: When you threw touchdown passes. 546 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: How did you like. 547 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: What type of celebrations did you used to have? I uh, 548 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: one really am hoping that you were super flashy. 549 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: Red I was. 550 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: I had one with Manny Hazard that when we connected, 551 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: we we we had a handshake. Aside from that, I 552 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: just throw up the one to let you know that's 553 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: another one, and that was. 554 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: That was about it. 555 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: But I tried to play the game as even keel 556 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: as I possibly could. I never got too high from 557 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: throwing a touchdown pass and I never got too low 558 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: when I threw an interception, because you have to manage 559 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: the game through the entire sixty minutes. That was my 560 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: advice to Donovan Smith right before kickoff at the U 561 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: of H Texas game. 562 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: Remain in the middle today. 563 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of stuff that goes on, 564 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: and it will go it won't go your way, but 565 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: you've got to be the steady force, that guy that 566 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: that kind of leads this in. Guys this ship and 567 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: first pass out of the gate, he has a receiver 568 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: open that it was a big drop. That was a 569 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: huge play right in the chest. Ball goes on the 570 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: ground and he managed to come back from that and 571 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: even being down twenty one to nothing. He managed to 572 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: get just kind of stay steady and lead his team 573 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: back where they had a chance to win it at 574 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: the end. 575 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: That's all. 576 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 2: That's how you play the position because there's so many 577 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: things that go on around you that if you allow 578 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: yourself out of that space and get too high and 579 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: celebrating a touchdown or magical touch whatever it is, or 580 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: you get too low because you've thrown an interception, guess 581 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: what you're gonna You're not gonna play up to your capability. 582 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: I think that's probably gotta be one of the hardest 583 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: things as a quarterback. St when your receiver drops a 584 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: really wide. 585 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: OA no in practice, I was a different animal. 586 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: If you drop one of mine in practice, especially early 587 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: in my career at U of H, I'd meet you 588 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: about halfway and I'm cussing as I'm coming towards you 589 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: because I'm trying to win this job. 590 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: I need that play man. 591 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and so uh Jason Phillips, 592 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: Manny Hazard, James Dixon, they, Brian Williams, all of them 593 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: will tell you I was a different dude. If you 594 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: put the ball on the ground in the game, catch 595 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: the damn ball man, And that's all I would tell. 596 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: That's all I would say, Catch the damn ball if 597 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: you want it again, catch it. 598 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: Okay. What if they're open and for some reason you're 599 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: thrown off pass, they might I'm not saying anything. 600 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: They might have something to say at that point, but 601 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I might say my bad about it. 602 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm acknowledged that it was my fault, and 603 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: they did then, but I would still have something Snider. 604 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: It's the etiquette. If it's your fault. 605 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: The way the past goes, is the receiver allowed to 606 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: say words with the quarterback or no. 607 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: They never did, and they probably know it's in their 608 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 2: best interest not to because it would lead somewhere based 609 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: on how I was, how I was in that moment, 610 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: or eight quarterback is in that moment. So you just 611 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: you know the chemistry of whose fault it was. If 612 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: you were supposed to continue on the route that you 613 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: cut off, and I threw to where I thought you 614 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: were going, that's you, you know, And and he would 615 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: come back to whoever it was, would come back and 616 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: say my bad. If I did it where I threw 617 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: behind you or whatever it was, I would acknowledge, Hey, 618 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: that's my bad. My fault won't happen again. But it's 619 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: when you try to deflect and you it's your fault 620 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: and you won't own it. With me, that's a different deal. 621 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna have some words at that. What 622 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: do you mean that that's not you? That is your fault? 623 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: And so we once you know my style though, I'm 624 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: easy to play with, all right. Speaking of styles, I've 625 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: been with different coaches. You've been and they all have 626 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: different styles, different approaches. Coming off the bye week Texas, 627 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: coming off the bye week, part of me thinks what 628 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: you should do early in the week, have a very 629 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: physical practice. I agree, not the I don't want to 630 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: use the word russ because I don't think RUSS develops 631 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: after just a week, but just to kind of shock 632 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: your heart, you'd be surprised. I hated bye weeks if 633 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: I was hot going in, I hated by weeks. Hated 634 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: them because once you get in a rhythm, it's hard 635 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: to recapture that. 636 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: Once you start getting in the flow of things. 637 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: And football players are as superstitious as anybody else. We 638 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: wear the same socks and if we win, you don't 639 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: wash whatever that superstition is. But I hated it when 640 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: we were playing well as a team and we were 641 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: really rolling, and then here comes the bye week and 642 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: maybe we needed to heal up. Maybe we don't, but 643 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: I just hated it from the standpoint of what it 644 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: did to the rhythm that we'd establish. 645 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And then with your physical part of it, 646 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: I believe in that too. 647 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: You get right back into the grind of football and 648 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: let the entire team know this isn't the vacation that 649 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: you're just coming back from the couple of days that 650 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: I've given you off. It's time to get back to work. 651 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: And you immediately flip the switch in their minds of 652 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: it's time to get going again. 653 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: Isn't that the Monday. Isn't that what the Monday practice 654 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: is for? That to knock off some rust? 655 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: You get an extra like a bonus day of practice, 656 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: and then you just hit your Wednesday Thursday, like. 657 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: You mean before the bye week after Like, how did 658 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: you do it? 659 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: Like when you're coming out of the bye week. 660 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Andy Read was very liberal with 661 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: his bye weeks. If we were winning, he would give 662 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: us more off than any other coach I've ever been 663 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: around and what I'm talking about de people like you 664 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: mentioned four. So if we're winning and having a good year, 665 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: you have a winning record. We have record before the 666 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: bye week and we're coming off two three game win streak. 667 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Not only will we get that entire week off, then 668 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: he'll tell us don't show up until like Wednesday, oh 669 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: the Wednesday that we have a game. Beautiful, But keep 670 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: in mind, you're gonna work when we have Brian Dawkins 671 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: as a leader, Troy Vincent, Uh, you know John Runying Uh. 672 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb obviously was our quarterback. So we had guys 673 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: where even though we're not as a team, in that 674 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: weight room, there's about eighty percent of the guys in there. 675 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, if you go into a meeting room, at 676 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: least half the guys are in there watching film. 677 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: Even though he's given you and that that's what being 678 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: a pro is all about. Right there, you're taking ownership 679 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: of of your career and the team at that point. 680 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: Next guys, that's what for And he's given it knowing 681 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: that Brian. 682 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: They're still gonna come in. 683 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna yeah, they're coming in. Brian and those guys, 684 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: all the leaders that he talked about, hey man, let's go. 685 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Get this lift. 686 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 4: It's almost better that way because then it's the players 687 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 4: wanting to come in. 688 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: You're not until the team the players lead the team, 689 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: it's not the leadership doesn't need to really come from 690 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: the head coach and the coaching staff. When the team 691 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: itself polices itself, that's when you have a good team. 692 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh and don't let guys. So with that being said, 693 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: going into a game where we you we had the 694 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: bye week after, and we only got that if we 695 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: were gonna win, you know, if we if we so 696 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: that week before the game, that's before the bye week, 697 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: if the practices aren't going away, it should be coach reed, 698 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't have to say anything because the vet to want 699 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: at that time. One at the time, I mean, guys 700 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: would be like, look, I already got my f and 701 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: ticket out of here the game, Like I'm not getting 702 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: the reef. Like we need to pick it up and 703 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: practice and make sure that that's absolutely on top. 704 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: Did you guys often do the see of Wednesdays where 705 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: you don't come back Monday or Tuesday, like late in 706 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: the season if you're winning. 707 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't seen those in a while. 708 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: I'd be in Atlantic City when that was see you Wednesday, fantastic, 709 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: straight to the airport. 710 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are for me. I used to just stay put, 711 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: but just rest and just kind of take a mental break. 712 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: When you get those extra two days. You would have 713 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: played for Tom Coughlin then, could have or could not? 714 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: You could have, yeah, because he wanted you to rest. 715 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: We go to camp and he would give us a 716 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: day off. One, you couldn't wear sunglasses around him. He 717 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: wanted to see everybody's eyes and look into your eyes 718 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: and whatever else he got from that. And the second 719 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: thing was if he gave you off, it was time 720 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: to rest. It was to rest, not to go play golf, 721 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: not to travel and go go out of town or 722 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: go rest, put your feet up. Oh I like that, 723 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Like I never and keep him back in my day, 724 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, training camp was really training sounds like what 725 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: it is now. I never understood when we did have 726 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: an afternoon off or day off and guys would just 727 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: go play. I was like, man, like I'm staying in bed, 728 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm staying in bed and watching TV. So I 729 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: never quite understood how some of those guys had that 730 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: and you got the extra energy to go do x 731 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: Y and Z. All right, so big matchup. Is this 732 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: more fan based or will the players be thinking about 733 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: it because the Carolina Panthers obviously the next opponent, number 734 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: one versus number two. Does that creep into CJ's mind 735 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: or Bryce Young's mind or is that just more fan 736 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: and media related? 737 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think it definitely is in their minds, and 738 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: they will forever be connected as one and two. And 739 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: obviously you're two, you want to out play one, and 740 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: you feel like going in that you have the better team, 741 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: but one, they feel like this is a getwill game 742 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: for them with you coming into town. So there's gonna 743 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: always be that that competition, the quiet competition between the 744 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: two of them. They were in New York together and 745 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: Bryce beat CJ for the Heisman, beat him out of 746 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: the Heisman, so to speak. So this will on a 747 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: much lesser level, or a different level, so to speak. 748 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: This this will be a this will be a good 749 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 2: one for CJ to put on his on his belt. 750 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm Mark and I were discussing this early Mark Vandermuer 751 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: and he's he's very worried about this game. 752 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: He said, oh and six record, but they're coming off 753 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: of bye as. 754 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Well, and they led who was it in their last 755 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: game for Miami? Yeah, yeah, and fourteen nothing in their 756 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: last game. 757 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: Points. It's not like they're getting shut out in these 758 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: They're getting better, is what they are. Progressively. 759 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 3: They're changed their play caller, So now Thomas Brown's calling 760 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: the place, Frank Reich's doing some things differently. I mean, 761 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: you never know, they might be close to turning it around. 762 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 763 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, though, Frank is still 764 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: the guy who's got to make the decisions to go 765 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: for it on fourth down, to kick a field goal 766 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: or not kick a field goal, And he's analyticed up 767 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: as much as anybody that I've ever seen. He uses 768 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: that so much, so sometimes I think in the well, 769 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: he basically gave us a game last year because of it, 770 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: and I want to say the year before as well. 771 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: But he's still making decisions that are going to affect 772 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: what that football team does, whether he's the play caller 773 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: or not. I don't know that that matters in the 774 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, other than from an experienced standpoint, 775 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: or you've seen certain things that you can adjust to 776 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: right on the spot. If you're an experienced play caller, 777 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: that's not the case for Carolina right now, but they are. 778 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: They have been playing a little bit better, and they 779 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: look at this team as the Texans, as their get 780 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: well game and a game that they feel. 781 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: Like they can get. We talked a lot of quarterback, 782 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: obviously with you with CJ. Stroud, the position you played, 783 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: but the running back Damie appears as a guy that 784 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: most defensive players fell in love with his style of 785 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: play last year. It doesn't feel like you're seeing that 786 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: same intensity, but you know he's a guy that wants 787 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: to you know, he's got to put some work. What's different? 788 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: What do you see that's different. 789 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 2: From the intensity is still there, The ability to run 790 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: is still there. He's not And I answered this question 791 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,479 Speaker 2: yesterday as well, when you have a makeshift offensive line 792 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: and as a running back, they feel it more than 793 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: the quarterback because the holes just aren't there and so 794 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: you're running into a wall over and over and over again, 795 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: or you're having to make a guy miss two yards 796 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: in the backfield when you just got the ball. So 797 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Bo Jackson, I don't care 798 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: if it's Marcus Allen. I don't care who it is. 799 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: If you are having problems up front with the five 800 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: guys in front of you. It doesn't matter who the 801 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: running back is. And so that's the difference in this 802 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: year's version of Damian Pierce and last year's version of Damien. 803 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: It's funny there's one name you didn't mention that you 804 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: didn't care. I Thinkry Sanders. Yeah, there's only one man 805 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: because he can make a mission. There's only one guy. 806 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: He can make a miss and then still go eighty 807 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: for all the people under I guess thirty five, probably 808 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: even let maybe forty who never really saw him. I'm 809 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: not talking about highlights and going to pull it out, 810 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: go pull it up and just he would make four 811 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: or five guys. He would have the most magical two 812 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: yard game. I mean I've seen some. 813 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: And then even away from the football field, he's one 814 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: of the best athletes I've ever seen. We go to 815 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: play pick up basketball at Oakland University off he's just 816 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: dunking ind He's standing flat footed under the basket, going 817 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: straight up at five to eight. Now, I've never seen 818 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: Barry talk noise about football ever in my life. He's 819 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: the most humble guy he would ever meet, until you 820 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: put a basketball in his hand. 821 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: He thinks he's Magic Johnson. 822 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: And more trash on a basketball court than anybody I've 823 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: ever played with. 824 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: All Right, that's the ninja in him. I'll let y'all 825 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,479 Speaker 1: figure that one out, quick time out. One more segments ago, 826 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: Texas huddle. Right here, Welcome man, welcome back. One more 827 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: segment to go, Texans huddle. Coming off the bye week. 828 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: Houston Texans hot going into the bye week, and the 829 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: hope is they stay hot as they're about to take 830 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: on the Carolina Panthers. Talked a lot of offense, talked 831 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterback running back, But the real side 832 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: of the ball, the defensive side of the ball, the 833 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: side that we all love, the defensive side. When you 834 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: when you look at this Texan defense, dre and obviously 835 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: you study both sides of the ball. Where you know what, 836 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: because we've been it's been all rainbows and butterflies. Right now, 837 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: where do you want to see more improvement after the 838 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: bye week on the defensive side of the ball. 839 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,959 Speaker 2: It doesn't be specific. The ability to stop the running Okay, 840 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: that's it. This is run stop in the front seven 841 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: has got to get better. I mean, it's this is 842 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: what this league is built on and about, and if 843 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: you can't stop it. 844 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna bleed. 845 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna live or bleed a slow death 846 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: every single week. And that's just how teams once they 847 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: sense it. Everybody's got a good running back or one 848 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: that is accomplished enough to hurt you for sixty minutes. 849 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: And so I think we saw that last year at 850 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 2: the tune of one hundred and seventy yards per clip, 851 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: which is unbelievable to me. Those numbers are down, they're 852 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: playing better. They held Kamara and check this past game 853 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: or the last game that they had, and he is 854 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: as elite as they get at that position. So you 855 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: feel like going forward they're they're going to be able 856 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 2: to get a handle on it. But that's the one 857 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: area where you want to be dominant in and that's 858 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: that's where. 859 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: They need to get to. 860 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 3: What about the secondary, it seemed like would Derek Stingle 861 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 3: and Derek stingely I feel like, should be coming back 862 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: offer soon hopefully, But in the case that since he 863 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: hasn't through these first six games, what do you see 864 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 3: from like Steven Nelson and Shaq Griffin and those. 865 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: Guys they've stepped up Nelson's obviously leading the team in 866 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: interceptions with three, and Shaq Griffin is so long it's 867 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: hard to get open on him. So I don't know 868 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: that they've missed uh Stingley much. To be quite honest 869 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: with you, they really haven't missed him. The secondary is 870 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,479 Speaker 2: playing well. Jimmy Ward being back, that's that's he's playing 871 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: some outstanding football. And then Petris is the one of 872 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 2: the best in the secondary and or one of the 873 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: best in the entire league at his position, and how 874 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 2: he's being utilized has helped him as well. Right around 875 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, he's involved in a lot of tackles, 876 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: but on the back end he can defend the pass 877 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: as well. So the secondary, I think is one of 878 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: the strong suits of this team is the guys in 879 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: front of them that really have to have to step up. 880 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: You said some interesting things about the run game from 881 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: a quarterbacks perspective. If you are finding your running back 882 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: picking up four yards five years job, so much to ask, 883 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: so much easier. Do you tell the coach he let's 884 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: keep running. Yeah, absolutely, don't get out of this. 885 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 2: Let's just make him make him quick, Because you can 886 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: literally make a team quit by running the football at 887 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: him over and over and over again and having success 888 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: those three four five yard carries over and over again. 889 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: That's debilitating. That just wears you down. Yes, and if 890 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: you're doing it with with tempo to go along with it, 891 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 2: that that gets it there even faster. So uh yeah, 892 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: it's it's that's why it's said that it's a quarterback's 893 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: best friend, along with a tight end. I don't know 894 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: that because I didn't play with a whole lot of 895 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: I can. 896 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: Tell you the running game does. 897 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: And it makes play action a whole lot easier because 898 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: once you show the football linebackers got to respect it. 899 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: If you're hitting them for four yards of carry, you 900 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: pull it out. Now you've got Dalton Schultz up to 901 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 2: up the seam or in the middle of the field. 902 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 2: If you're just dropping back and they dropped, draw plays work, 903 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 2: all that good stuff. It just all mixes and messages together. 904 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 4: How to switching the running backs change up the rhythm 905 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 4: of the run game. Because with the they didn't. 906 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they did an outstanding job. 907 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: I gave Danny Barrett a lot of credit on the 908 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: air based on the substitution pattern that they've had. Obviously, 909 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 2: Pierces is the main back and he's going to get 910 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: the bulk of the carries. But Singletary got hot the 911 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 2: day against New Orleans, and I like the fact that 912 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: they left him in when he got hot, to hey, 913 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: you know, we got a makeshift offensive line. He may 914 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 2: read it or see something that piercedn't seeing right now, 915 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: and it might help him. What it also does is 916 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: it gives you a fresh back every single time to 917 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: keep coming out of defense with. And so Singletary stepping 918 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: up in that game it was huge, huge, and I 919 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 2: think they just by accident ended up with thirteen carries. 920 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: Apiece. I want to get your take on this. What 921 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: are some of the trappings of a young quarterback having success. 922 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: We've seen Carson Wentz go from face of the league 923 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: to I don't even know what right now amazing. We've 924 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: seen where at one point Gardner mentioned you was going 925 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: to be the next Tom Brady because of his story, 926 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: and now he's playing. But what do you tell a 927 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: young quarterback that's experienced some success early on to make 928 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: sure that they can maintain that. 929 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: That makes sure you continue to study, make sure you 930 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 2: study every single week. But because you're not going to 931 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: see the same. Whatever you see that's consistent from week 932 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 2: to week, it's what that team did that was successful 933 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 2: against you, that's going to be in their game plan defensively, 934 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: and you're going to see something else that you hadn't seen. 935 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: It takes years of experience before you or years of 936 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: playing before you get the experience where you've seen it all, 937 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: or you've seen most things that they can throw at you. 938 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 2: You're not seeing that, certainly as a rookie or as 939 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 2: a young player that is doing it for the first time. 940 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 2: So study hard every single week. My philosophy was once 941 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 2: the season started, the outside world didn't exist. I became 942 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: a very bored, boring person to be around because it 943 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: was football. I was either at the facility, I was 944 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 2: either studying. When I was at home. I was either 945 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: watching film when I was at home. It was something 946 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: that was football related. And then when the season was over, 947 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: you get back to living your life. Because you only 948 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 2: get that small amount that small window for a very 949 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: small amount of time, You've got to try to maximize 950 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: it as a young player, So don't think that you've 951 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: seen anything that's going to make you comfortable that you 952 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: automatically assume, oh, they run cover one, but they may 953 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 2: get to cover one in a totally different manner than 954 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: what that team you played last week got. 955 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: To it in. Do you think that's the problem with 956 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: some of these guys. I know, yeah, I think so. 957 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 2: But you get comfortable in your surroundings and and think 958 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 2: that you've had some success, the game is going to 959 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 2: be easy for you. You still have to study because 960 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: one defensive coordinator to the next, they do not think alike. 961 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 2: It's totally different. They're all going to put their spin 962 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 2: on certain defenses that you might deem as basic. They're 963 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 2: going to make it look like something else just to 964 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 2: try to mess with you. So you got to figure 965 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: out what that tail is that they're going to give you, 966 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: and that's what you study film for. 967 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: Are the tails? 968 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 3: As a quarterback, was there any particular type of coverage 969 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 3: or something you'd see and you're like, yes, this is. 970 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: One, yeah, one safety in the middle. We played Texas 971 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: this I'm going to go back to college first. We 972 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: would play Texas and they thought they could play us 973 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: in man to man because, as I said, that was 974 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: their arrogance. They could line up and this is u 975 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 2: of ah. These little receivers We're gonna just kill him 976 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 2: with man and man and we would just throw corner outs. 977 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: Then when they start overplaying the corner, we give you 978 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: a nod to the corner and go to the post. 979 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: There guy's going still running to the corner, and I'm 980 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: throwing touchdown passes in the middle of the field. 981 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it was that. 982 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,360 Speaker 2: That was the defense I loved, and I knew we 983 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 2: could block it up and I knew they couldn't stay 984 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: with our receivers. I also knew the chemistry that we'd 985 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: built so based on the wiggle that Jason would give. 986 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: I knew which direction he was going right or left. 987 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 2: It was that kind of chemistry, and you have to 988 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 2: have it in a passing offense, otherwise you got balls 989 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: sailing all over the place. But we were able to 990 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: kind of capture lightning in a bottles. 991 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: Statement. You got to make stop and let people gnawing it. Like, 992 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: really think about what he said that as a quarterback, 993 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: you can see the juke move, which is left, right, left, right, 994 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,919 Speaker 1: and determine which way you're going to people. 995 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 2: We would actually we would actually tell people in interviews. Uh, 996 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: I would say I knew where he was going before 997 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: he did wow. And there was a pass that proved 998 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 2: it against Texas where I was getting hit and I 999 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: just put the ball where I thought he was going. 1000 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: And I just laid there listening for the reaction of 1001 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: the crowd. And when I heard our crowd react, I 1002 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: knew what had happened. It was a touchdown. 1003 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: Path Is that from. 1004 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 2: Practice, practice, all over and all that's that goes all 1005 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 2: the way back to summer workouts where you're not just 1006 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 2: out throwing balls and throwing routes. That's what and I 1007 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: tell people all the time there are guys about ninety 1008 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: percent of the guys in the NFL are running plays. 1009 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 2: The other ten percent are playing quarterback. You start playing 1010 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: quarterback when when all the things that we just described, 1011 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 2: and you know, knowing where your receivers are in the summers, 1012 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: ironing out how he's going to break routes off or 1013 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: come back to me on a simple all route, it 1014 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: becomes a comeback to keep the defender, but your body 1015 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: between the defender and the football. That's playing quarterback stuff. 1016 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: CJ. 1017 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: Stroud's doing anticipating. That's playing quarterback. He's not just running 1018 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: plays anymore. That's hard to get to, especially early well. 1019 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: There's ninety percent people who just talking Mike's and ten 1020 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: percent of us doing the actual pot. That's what we're 1021 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: doing here in Texas. She's DP. I'm ind that's been 1022 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: the great Andre where that's gonna do it for us? 1023 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: All Access coming up, that's right, Texans, All Axis coming 1024 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 3: up in Texans matchup after that. 1025 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thanks enjoyed it, guys,