1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Half corner time. Let's tittle Yankee Stadium Tuesday, Wednesday and 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: maybe Thursday. Red Sox Yankees first round. That's good. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Love it. This is what it's all about. People are like, oh, 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: I hate they expanded playoffs. When you get matchups like this, 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: bring it all people, because you know what, it's great 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: for baseball and the whole world was gonna be tuned 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: to everyone's so oh, Yankees and Red Sox are on 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: TV too much. You know why because people tune in 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: to watch. 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun and there's a lot of star 11 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: power here. Garrett Crochet against Max Freed Game one. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: That's good. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: Yankees playing sizzling hot right now, Kratz Red Sox get 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: in obviously the narrative, you know, they trade devers. I 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: was critical of it, as were many others. They don't 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: have Rome and Anthony, but they're gonna step in with 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: I think, well, I guess it's close, but no, Crochet 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: is a better. Cruche is better than Freed, right if 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you have to rent power rank those two? 20 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, so. 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: They've got the best starter going here. BeO is gonna 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: go in game two for them, and Boone made some announcements. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm just scrolling back up here. Cam Schlitteritter would start 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: game three if there is once you got Freed and 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: rodin for games one and two, Austin Wells behind the 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: plate for game one that needs Ben Rice probably on 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the bench, Goaldie at first, and then you can bring 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: in Rice at some point, and then Amed Rosario might 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: get a little light second instead of Jazz for sure, 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: because it's because of his numbers against Crochet. 31 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: He was like six for eight against Crochet finding a 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: way into a playoff game, and guess was the hottest 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: right now? Playoff Gean, Carlos Stanton, Mike Stanton, whatever you 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: want to call him. This dude is scorching right now. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: I get it. He was hitting fingers against the Orioles, 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: but he is he shows up in the playoffs. I 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: don't think there's a bigger hitter in either lineup of 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: this series, and I get it. Alex Bregman has been 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: one of the best postseason players in this this pool 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: of generation of players because he's always been in it 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: and his numbers. He has a ridiculous amount of numbers 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: in the postseason. But g can single handedly take over 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: a series where you look at a Crochet Freed matchup, 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: three runs might win the game, and g has been 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: that guy in the playoffs. But more importantly, this last 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: week of the. 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Season, where do you think the edges are for me? 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I think starting pitching is close. Red Sox bullpen advantage, Yankees' lineup. 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Advantage, yeah, yeah, And they're playing a Yankee stadium, which 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: will help. No squirre will come up with something that 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: will help them try to win. Yeah. I think the 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 2: fact they're playing in Yankee Stadium is gonna be huge. 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: The Red Sox have to win Game one that they 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: just Crochet owns Judge. He's got like one hit offf 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: of him in his career. I think as much as 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: we think that the Tigers have to win Game one 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: against the Guardians, I firmly believe the Red Sox have 58 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: to win. When Crochet bitches, did you say dinger? Krats, 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: that was the one hit he's got? 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Oh one dinger? 61 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he hit two dingers against him. We 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: had the one in eight innings. 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's just so Judge had another ridiculous season. Krats, 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: your former teammate is up for an MVP. He's gonna 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: get first or second, ridiculous historic season again, but last 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: year in the playoffs he had some really rough moments. 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that we get more of the regular 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: season judge or the October judge here? 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: I think regular season judge. I think if you go 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: back to some of his numbers that he's amassed in 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: the postseason, they're not as bad as they are recently. 72 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: So does that mean you don't care? To me? I 73 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: don't think he he's unaware of how bad he's done 74 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: recently in the playoffs. But I think you have a 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: shorter memory. You have a longer memory in like, dude, 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: I should win the MVP. My ops plus is over 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: two ten if I know what that was. As a player, 78 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: he is not. He's feeling the same pressure as anybody 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: else on this roster. No, not true, he feels more pressure. 80 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: He might not say it, but he absolutely has to. 81 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's the guy that in New York 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: stars need to shine, and he hasn't shined in the 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: big moments. He hasn't. I'm sorry. I love Aaron Judge. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: I think he's unbelievable. He's an unbelievable player, but in 85 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: the big, bright moments, he has not shined the way 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: that they need him to Game five of the World 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Series last year, he dropped the fla ball that led 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: to all hell breaking this first air of the season 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: at the worst time possible. What do they remember in 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: New York? Ask anybody that played there. They remember how 91 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: you did in the postseason. They don't give a crap 92 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: about how you do in the radio season. I would 93 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: agreeing what. 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: To do with him or how they pitch him with 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: better pitching in the postseason, do you think that's a 96 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: factor at all? 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Or now he hits he hits good pitching too. He's 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: sitting two, he's hit got two of He's hitting two 99 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: o five in the postseason in his career. What about 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: the career in his career, do you have that on 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: base and he's got sixteen homers, You have got two 102 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty at bats his first three seasons in 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: the postseason he hit way better than that. Seventy eighteen 104 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty. He was not healthy. He came back after 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: being hurt twenty one, was quick. His obp is three eighteen, 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: his ops is seven sixty eight. He had He's had 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: one great postseason. It was twenty eighteen in nineteen at 108 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: bats four twenty one, fourteen hundred ops. Other than that, 109 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: it's eight sixteen, seven forty three, six sixty two, five 110 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: hundred four to ninety and last year was seven fifty two. 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: So his ops is seven sixty eight with a two 112 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: O five, which is solid. 113 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: But not for him, not for him, not for him 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: when he's yes guy, for his career exactly. 115 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, like that's that's I mean, I love 116 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge's death, but this is what people look at. Yeah, 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: yescially again, Dodgers Dan Playton Kershall. They're not do they not? 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Do they not throw him in the postseason? They're not 119 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: getting he's not in the wild card. I get it, 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: he's not one of the three starters. 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: What's your point? 122 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: Now, what's the point here? They're both elite players, their 123 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: numbers in the postseason may not may not match up. 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Kershall's got a four and a half ERA in one 125 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four innings. Does that mean does that 126 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: mean you don't think he's gonna perform? To me, I 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: think Judge will perform in the playoffs? Has he not? Yes? 128 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: To me? Je said he didn't think. We didn't think 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: he's gonna be good to perform. No One said no one. 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: I just said he needs to perform. Nobody said, we 131 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: don't think he's not. I'm just given the numbers, he 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: hasn't performed up to the level. Kirshy has two rings, 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: Judge has zero. That's the way Yankee fans judge their 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: their their players. Why do they love Derek Jeter? How 135 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: many rings does Derek Jeter have? What? Five? Oh? Sorry, five? 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: You're right? Nine two five? But also, that's why they 137 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: love Derek Jeter. That's why they love the Core four. 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: That's why they love were A Pisada. That's why the 139 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: guys that win the ring. That's why I love Nick 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Swisher because he won the ring in two thousand and nine. 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: That's why Yankee fans judge their stars on how many 142 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: rings did you win? Yogi Barrow won? What? Ten? Nine 143 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: or ten rings? That's what the Yankees judge are people on, 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter regular season's cool. How many rings do 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: you have? And right now, Judge unfortunately has zero, even 146 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: though he's been the best player in the game since 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: he's got to the big leagues. Asked me if I 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be regular season judge or postseason judge. 149 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: In my opinion is he's going to be. He's gonna 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: be regular season judge. I can't, I can't not. I 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: I will put I will put my stake in the 152 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: ground on that. I think he will be that guy. 153 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: Do you I hope he is. I don't know. I'm 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: just gonna I hope he is because I love Aaron 155 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: Judge and I think he's so fun to watch. 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Right now, if we're going off track round, I'm saying, 157 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: Stanton is the guy who lives up to those moments. 158 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: He is the guy ellingers had big moments in the postseason. 159 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: Volpi's had huge moments in the post. He looks like 160 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: you can't throw it right now. The throw he made 161 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: yesterday it was like three hops that his shoulders, his 162 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: shoulders crushed. I mean, you can't play him. You can't 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: have that. You have to in coffy ero. But I'm 164 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: just saying I don't know, Listen, I'm just saying Judge 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: needs to Judge needs to have that moment and it 166 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: needs to happen against the Red Sox. 167 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Early big homer last year against Class A. I get it, 168 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: but he had tons of opportunities. Last year, John Carlos 169 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: Stanton was married the team in October. 170 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: He was insane. 171 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: He was so fun to watch. 172 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: How do you know play? I know, I know Austin 173 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: Walls is catching, but you can't find him play away. 174 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: To get Ben Rice in the lineup somewhere they will later, right, 175 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: I mean I him in there. I needed him in 176 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: there as much as I can get him in there. 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna go in late against righties, yeah, I know, 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: and then he'll play Game two. 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: Did he play third for McMahon, I'd be goldtimate played 180 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: third for mcmon. I mean, you can't think about think 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: about what they could have here. Crochet's gone seven and 182 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: eight innings against the Red Sox. If he goes seven, 183 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: you can't bring bent Ben Rice in because eventually they're 184 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: gonna bring Eroaldis in and then he's got to go left, 185 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: all left against Eroaldis Chapman, the best reliever in baseball 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: this year, they gotta get Krushe as a That's it again. 187 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: As much as we say Scooball needs to win HM 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: Garrick Coche needs to win Game one though, those are 189 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: the two big one Hunter Green. If the Reds are 190 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: gonna have any chance Hunter Green's gotta win Game one. 191 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about top ten starters in the sport. 192 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: Those guys are top ten starters. 193 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: Yes, we've talked about the like sexy part of this game. 194 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: One thing we haven't brought up that both teams absolutely 195 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: suck at fielding. Neither of these teams can field. Trevor's 196 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: story has five airs in the last eight games, and 197 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: it was like five of six games. Talking about maybe 198 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: he's a little tired. Maybe they have their best second 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: placement playing gold glove center field, and oh, don't forget 200 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: their worst fielding the Red Sox away from Boston where 201 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: you can kind of mitigate some things because you can 202 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: play shallower or the wall comes into play, all that stuff. Like, 203 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: are we gonna see like some balls kicked around here 204 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: in this series that costs one of the teams to 205 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: go home? 206 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: Yes, more likely, Yes, really even. 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: Hit on that, I think, which is gonna be an 208 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: awesome series too. The Cubs and the we will we'll 209 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: get to it. We'll get to it. Can That's a 210 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: very another interesting one, especially with Kate Horton going down. 211 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: We will we will last thing real quick on this 212 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: Red Sox of went nine and four the season against 213 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: the Yankees five and two at Yankee Stadium. When you 214 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: look at previews, people always bring up season series. 215 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Do you care not? No? 216 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: No, okay, crats you care not? Nope, okay aj Let's 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: talk steaks. 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James, 237 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: what the heck happened to the Mets and their second 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: highest payroll in baseball this year? 239 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: I mean, your guys, guess this goes mind. You saw 240 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: this happen. It wasn't really a collapse, was more just 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: watching them bleed out for three months. The pitching wasn't 242 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: good enough. There wasn't enough consistent and see in the top, 243 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: middle or back of the rotation. Situational hitting was bad 244 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: for a while, it got pretty good, and this weekend 245 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: I would say it was poor again. The bullpen completely 246 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: fell apart one that we thought it should have been 247 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: one of the better bullpens in baseball after the trade deadline, 248 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: was more like one of the worst bullpens in baseball. 249 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 3: Every single thing went wrong. David Stearns, Carls Mendoza, all 250 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: of the players, all forty seven pitchers that made an 251 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: appearance this season, every single person involved with this deserves 252 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: at least a portion of this blame. It's so hard 253 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: to even fine tune and point to some specific thing 254 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: because it was such an overarching disaster. 255 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: You're the day after the season's over. There was a 256 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: chance that they could have gotten in yesterday with just 257 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: one victory. Yeah, Is it hard to imagine this team 258 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: actually in the playoffs? Or was it, oh man, remember 259 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: what we did last year that was so amazing. We 260 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: tripped into the playoffs on the last day against the 261 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Braves too, We're going to go on an epic run. 262 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Or was there definitely the disbelief that this was just 263 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: not a good team. 264 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: I think that that belief of last year kind of 265 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 3: worked against them because you listen to the way these 266 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: guys spoke after all of their games, and those are 267 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: the players. Even Brandon Nemo's availability after the season. It 268 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: was kind of just like waiting for a switch to flip. 269 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: You can't really wait for a switch to flip. You 270 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: have to flip a switch. And I think that there 271 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: was a bit of arresting on Laurels of a team 272 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: that we know how much talents in this room, we 273 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: know how good we are and can be. We know 274 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: we just did this last year. What the Mets did 275 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: last year was I don't even know. It's like a 276 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: dream like sequence, over and over and over again, like 277 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: herculean performances from star players out of sometimes the clear 278 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: blue sky and you waiting for that. That's not sustainable 279 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: process to win baseball games. I remember listening to you 280 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: guys a lot last year being critical of the gimmicky Mets, 281 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: being like, how can you sustain this kind of motivation 282 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: mentality when it's all built on gimmicks. At the time, 283 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: I was a little bit critical of that, didn't really 284 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: understand what you meant. But now watching this season and 285 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: seeing their lack of ability to find that internal motivation, 286 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: I very much understand when you meant. Really did again 287 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: work against them this season? 288 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: All right, Well, where do we start with? What went wrong? 289 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: I mean the pitching obviously, but the hitting didn't hit. 290 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: They got shut out yesterday. They got shut out. Okay, 291 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: and I know, you know some Perez is good and 292 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: the Marlins are good, and it's a big ballpark. But 293 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: they got shut out. Maybe they needed Grimace? Where was Grimace? 294 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: Where was omg? Where was the pump? Where were all 295 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: these things they had? They had none of them? This year, 296 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: they just were like going through the motions. So I mean, 297 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to they weren't going through the motion 298 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: because obviously they. 299 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Care, they're working hard. Yeah, but what what did they need? 300 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 2: Did they need someone to come in from the outside 301 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: and provide that spark, because I feel like Carlos Mendoza 302 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: does a great job trying to lead them and put 303 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: them He stays very even Keel. They tried Bucks show Walter, 304 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: that didn't work, they went to Mendy. Where do they 305 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: go next? Especially if Alonzo and Edwin Diaz are out 306 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: the door. 307 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: I mean maybe even Keel isn't what this team needed. 308 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: Maybe they needed some kind of raw rale, like some 309 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: kind of activity, some kind of energy. And also I 310 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: think it's a difference of going from a team that 311 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: last year had no expectations on them after the way 312 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 3: they began the season, so this year entering with all 313 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: the expectations on yourself. It's the try, the true difference 314 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: in sports forever, going from being a hunter to the 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: hunt it. And I think that when that target got 316 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: put on the Mets backs, I don't think they knew 317 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: how to really aptly respond to it. And even these 318 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: must win games over the weekend. Friday night especially amazing 319 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: looking back at this Marlin series. The Marlins only scored 320 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: runs in two individual innings and won the series to 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: the one. And if you can move one more game 322 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: as the Mets, you will the playoffs. We're not having 323 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: these conversations now. We might have these conversations in three 324 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: days because the roster and the team were still flawed. 325 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: You probably would have gotten just crushed by the Dodgers. 326 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: But who knows, three game series, anything can happened in baseball. 327 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: But the mental mistakes of Ryan Riso not covering a 328 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: base on Friday, Carls Fondoza bringing Greg Russolo to face 329 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: the flu of right handed bathers, then Sunday being a 330 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: little bit maybe too jumpy with the bullpen taking a 331 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: guy like Brooks Raley, who's been your second most trusted 332 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: reliever out for the entire second half after ten pitches 333 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: when one right these coming up with one guy in 334 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: first base like it was just there wasn't a lot 335 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: of consistency in the decision making by Carlos Mendoza, and 336 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: there was even less consistency with all the pitchers he 337 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: had at his disposal. 338 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: Or wait, wait, wait, back in June fifteenth, they lost 339 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: the game. Wait, no, we can't go over every single 340 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: individual game, even though we're breaking down this weekend. So 341 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: I want to go to Juan Soto. When I say 342 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Juan Soto, I need your initial honest reaction, I. 343 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 3: Mean say, you're gonna blame any guy in this team 344 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: for what happens. It's definitely not him. For as cold 345 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: as he was to start the season, he lived up 346 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: to the billing nine to fifty ops, forty home runs, 347 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: like the runs of scoring position. Stuff was bad early, 348 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 3: it got very good late Sunday. A couple of chances 349 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 3: that didn't exactly go his way, but that's baseball. You're 350 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: not getting hit every time you come up, no matter 351 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 3: what the what the dollar science says next to your name. 352 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 3: He's It definitely is a strange clubhouse thing that was 353 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: dealt with this year, owing a guy that came into it. 354 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: I can't remark on that. I wasn't in that room, 355 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: but it didn't seem like that was something that was 356 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 3: strongly working against him, And if it was, that's a 357 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: poor reflection on everybody in there. Because he's so good 358 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: that we should be able to get over any clubhouse things, 359 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: not saying there was one, but it can't be a 360 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: bad thing that you had one, so tho to your team, 361 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: and if it was, then I think everyone else needs 362 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: to look internally a little bit closer. 363 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what I think should happen this offseason, 364 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: but what would you do this offseason to switch things 365 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: up and try and remedy a situation where this team 366 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: spends a ton of money on their player personnel? Right, 367 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: the Mets are actually the example that's going to be 368 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: used when we have the annoying salary cap conversations in 369 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: the offseason, because like half the teams in the top 370 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: ten didn't even make it, and the Mets are the 371 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: prime example, and this has happened two times in the 372 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: last few years, where the Mets top three in payroll. 373 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: You're like, no way, this team doesn't at least crack 374 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they don't. My thought process is, how 375 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: do you build a pitching staff like this to crumble 376 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: in the last few months. 377 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: This was a slow burn. 378 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: This wasn't like, oh no, we got blitz at the 379 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: buzzer like this was an incredible team for a couple 380 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: months and then you know, you bring on guys that 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: obviously either got hurt or couldn't last and didn't build 382 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: the depth around it. That you're relying on three pitchers 383 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: who did not expect to be up this season at all. 384 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: So how do you fix this from a philosophy standpoint? 385 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: Because I will say I don't think David Stearns believes 386 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: in the big money Max Freed type signing, But look 387 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: what Max Freed is about to do this week. 388 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Freeze also the cherry pick. He's the one 389 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: guy that did work out with the big contract. And 390 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: it is funny like talking about getting blissed at the 391 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: end of the season, Like it's not like the Mets 392 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: got chased down. Like in twenty twenty two, when the 393 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 3: Braves played six fifty baseball for three straight months, the 394 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: Reds were just forty and forty over the last eighty games. 395 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: You got caught by a five hundred team. That's how 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: bad you were. You were one of the worst teams 397 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: in baseball for three straight months. And I feel like 398 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: we talked a lot about the differences on rosters between 399 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: like the Stars and then the scrubs, But then you 400 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: always have to kind of look at the middle class 401 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: of the team's roster in terms of payroll, Like you 402 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 3: look at the Mets Stars, so though Lindor Alonzo, you 403 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: can't really say much about the performans of those guys 404 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: this season. And then you look towards the bottom of 405 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: the roster and you have to be impressed by what 406 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: Brett Baidy did this season or Francisco Alvas did this season. 407 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: But then the problem is that this middle class of 408 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: the roster, the guys making between like twenty and ten 409 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: million dollars, the guys you're going out, you're giving money to, 410 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: and they need to perform for you. Starling Marte twenty 411 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: million dollars to be a part time DH who has 412 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: lost all his athleticism. We can't play defense. That's terrible. 413 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: Brett and themout twenty million dollars. Good season. Counting the 414 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: numbers wise, defense took a step back. Arm is a 415 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: complete liability in the outfield and his high leverage stats 416 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: were abysmally bad. Joum and I another twenty million dollar guy. 417 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 3: He was the offseason acquisition to steady the rotation. He 418 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: did the exact opposite that. He took a lot of 419 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: accountability after the game yesterday being like, if I'm even 420 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: half as good as I know I can be, we 421 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 3: make the playoffs. To not even discussion he was a 422 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: total failure of this season. Edward Ds twenty million dollars, 423 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 3: had a great season, No, nothing wrong with in DS. 424 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: Would like to bring him back, Your guy's favorite pitcher 425 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: in the league. Frankie seventeen million dollars. Don't have to 426 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: rehash that. Jeff McNeil sixteen million dollars called they sang 427 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 3: a sixteen million dollars. 428 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: A J. 429 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: Mintry signed him for eleven he got hurt in April, 430 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: and Clay Holmes for thirteen, who was really useful, and 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: Jesse Winker for another eight. Like that, entire meat and 432 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: potatoes of the roster was almost complete failure. And the 433 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: funny thing is, like, as we've gone through so many 434 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: iterations of this Mets franchise under Steve Cohen, I just 435 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 3: named guys who were brought in and signed by three, 436 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: possibly four different executives along the way. So there's still 437 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 3: a lot of just garbage and trash in the middle 438 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: of this roster that needs to be sifted through and 439 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: siphoned off. And at the same time, none of those 440 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: guys almost performed up to their standards. If one of 441 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: those guys performed to their standards, you probably find one 442 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: more win and we probably get in the playoffs. But 443 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: it's just a colossal failure from that chunk of the roster, 444 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: through and through. 445 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know where to start. I mean, 446 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 2: David Serage, this was supposed to be his specialty though, 447 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: cleaning it up. I know it's only his first year, 448 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 2: but you know, he did. He did bring in Montos, 449 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: he did. He brought him Frankie Montos and I hate 450 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: to go always go back to him, but he has 451 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: a track record of being hurt and guess what, and 452 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: when he hasn't been hurt, he hadn't been that great 453 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: except for like for a little bit. So that is 454 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: just that's what it is. It is what it is 455 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to that. And some of the other guys, 456 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're signed, yes, I know that, but hey, 457 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: you're the Mets. You're supposed to be able to cover 458 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff with their roster. And when you 459 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: bring in Awan Soto and you bring in Francisco Indoor 460 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: and you have a Pee Alonso and you bring all 461 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: these guys in code, I singa's in triple A. 462 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: He didn't pitch. 463 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: I mean he could have. So there's a million things. 464 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: But what I want to dig into is your announcers. 465 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: You guys love Gary and Ron and Keith, and I 466 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: get it, YadA YadA. They are the Homers and that 467 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: they will criticize. But yesterday, come on, the Marlins took 468 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: a picture at the end of the game and they're like, 469 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: this is their world series? What are they doing? Well, 470 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: guess what, it was the Mets World Series too, and 471 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: they got shut out for Maybe the met should have 472 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: said if we win, we'll take a team photo and 473 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: they wouldn't have got shut out. Like I don't know. 474 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I do these games. I get it. 475 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: I get that you're supposed to be a Homer, but 476 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: criticizing another team for celebrating because you're mad you lost 477 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: seems like kind of a weak way to go about this. 478 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 3: Garrett Cohen through and through is a Mets fan, Like 479 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: that's how he's fine. Yeah, that's kind of I think 480 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: he identifies himself, and you're right about that. I thought 481 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: that his comments after the game where a tad bit whiny, 482 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: But I think it was windy. Just like when Mark 483 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: and I came on our podcast this morning, I think 484 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: we were a little bit whiny. I think if you 485 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: had to watch this team go through what they went 486 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: through over the last few months, there were some raw 487 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: emotions that you felt as someone that loved and supported 488 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: and were there for this team day in and day 489 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: out this season. I think also at the same time, 490 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: during that last broadcast, those last couple of games, Gary 491 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: Keith and Rom Weroll pretty critical of the players on 492 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: the field. Carls Mendoza especially, Ron took some shots. I 493 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: thought maybe tongue in cheek a bit, just the team 494 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: building in a way. At the same time too, looking 495 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: at the Marlins, they were team that was alive for 496 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: the playoffs on Thursday when they lost the game to 497 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: the Phillies, they had a chance to sweep the Mets 498 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: this weekend if the Reds would have been swept by 499 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: the Brewers and actually stuck into the playoffs. Even with 500 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: that possibility, they pushed back their a Sandy al Contraday 501 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 3: for eight days rest so he could pitch the Friday 502 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: night home game against the Mets rather than when he 503 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: pitched the Thursday before. Push him up on regular rest 504 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: to pitch the Tuesday and then keep them available for 505 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: Sunday and what your absolute goals and opportunity could have 506 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: been a must win game, and the Marlins seems to 507 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: have forewent that possibility because there's a good chances with 508 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: Sandy's last start, and I think they wanted a Friday 509 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: night home game for their kind of premier player over 510 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: the last half decade, and I think that's totally fair. 511 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: But it is interesting when you look at this team 512 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: like the Marlins, who were like, we're going to give 513 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: and again this baseball, that's what we're supposed to do, 514 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: give everything we have, just to ruin these guys season. 515 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: I tip my cap to them. I wish the Mets 516 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: would have given everything they could to save their own season, 517 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: but it is funny how that happened, especially with the 518 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: way they organized their pitching matchups for a series that 519 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: to them meant nothing besides pride, and again I'm happy 520 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 3: they had that pride. The Marlins were a better team 521 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 3: the Mets over the last two months by a lot. 522 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: Connor Norby spoke after the game on Friday, said we 523 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: believe were better than them, and he was right. The 524 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: last seven games the Mets and the Marlins played. The 525 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: Marlins won five of them. Like that, you want to 526 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: look at why you miss the playoffs for the Mets. 527 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 3: That's a big for it. 528 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Listen, I wanted to make this caller. I have no 529 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: problem with the announcer being a homer. I'm all four 530 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: of the local announcer being a homer because they should 531 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: be a homer. Right. You don't need to take a 532 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: shot at the other team. He should have said, Man, 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: look at the Marlins away they're celebrating. That should be 534 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: the Mets right now, or something like you don't need 535 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: to take that was more. My thing is like, you 536 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: don't need to take a shot at the other team, 537 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: Like call out your own team, which they do a 538 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: good job of, but don't take a shot at the 539 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: other team, right, Don't take a shot at guys on 540 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: other teams. Take a shot at your own team if 541 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: you want to, you know. But that's it. And listen, 542 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: I love Gary Ron and Keith. I think they're one 543 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: of the most entertaining home team do or trios or 544 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: teams in baseball. But I just thought it was kind 545 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: of weird that they took a shot at the other 546 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: team for no reason. 547 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, just wanted to like paint the 548 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: picture that they were taking plenty of shot to us, 549 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: and then they went to the shots to them, they 550 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: were they were fair across the board first and then 551 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: they had to get, you know, especially Gary, just get 552 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: that frustration out. 553 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: I think Steve Cohen when he bought the team said 554 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: how many years he was gonna break? He actually said 555 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: three to five if we go to the exact But 556 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: as a Mets fan, you're like, okay, I'll take I'll 557 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: take the I'll take the longer route. How are Mets 558 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: fans sitting here today going, is it another five year 559 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 2: plan that we're ahead of? 560 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: It's hard to tell at this point. I mean, we 561 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: know how weird baseball is. We know the looming labor 562 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: negotiations that are going to happen after next year. And 563 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 3: again you look at the bottom and middle class to 564 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: this roster and you're like, how how much better are 565 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: these guys actually going to be next season? Again, like 566 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: full faith and confidence in Francisco and Door and one, 567 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: so though, really banking and hoping that Pelonso is a 568 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 3: guy that is back next season. Will hold myself to that. 569 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: And then you're pretty confident going into next season with 570 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: both Francisco al for As Brett bay The as starting players. 571 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: Besides that, like this entire pitching staff is under contract 572 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: and every single guy's a question mark. You're really happy 573 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 3: you saw from Nolan McLain lots of confidence in the future. Well, 574 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: it wasn't great in the president from Brandon Brot and 575 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: jonah Toong built one of the best farm systems in baseball. 576 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: Not one relief pitcher under contract heading into next year. 577 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: It's going to take a lot of work to think 578 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: that this team could be a World Series team next year. 579 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: And you're probably going to need some again, some really 580 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: good signings in the middle class and kind of have 581 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: to pull some more rabbits out of your hats for 582 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: David Searns who did it really well two years ago 583 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: and did not do it this year. So it's a lot. 584 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: I think a lot's going to change. I think there's 585 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of turnover on this roster. Honestly, 586 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: I think some guys have played their last games as 587 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: Mets who are under contract. A guy like Jeff McNeil 588 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: just kind of probably needing to change the culture a 589 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: little bit I'm curious about how your organization feels over 590 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: Ronnie Marissio and Mark Ciento's, over the way they're playing 591 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: time when and the specific warriors Carls Mendoza had for 592 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 3: each of them over these last few weeks. It's a 593 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: it's a really strange looking roster right now and one 594 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: that looking back, you're like, I can see how this team, 595 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: I guess missed the playoffs but still still hurt. 596 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: To the moment. 597 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: At the time, I thought it was a little bit annoying, 598 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: but I also get it. Pete playing his potential last 599 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: home game with the Mets, and I think Pete's really 600 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: nice and Quirky was like, really, we're talking about this 601 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: right now, and it's the job of a reporter. You're 602 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: getting in an ovation. So I'm okay with the question 603 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: now though, is he opts he's opting out? Do you 604 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: think we do another song and dance all off season? 605 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: Because it's to me, it's not as much about the 606 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Mets and their interest in Pete. I think it's the 607 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: rest of baseball and their lack of interest in a 608 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: first basement with that profile, I think the Mets understand 609 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: the importance of what he means there, and there were 610 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: other teams that I thought would get involved. 611 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: I will say, for. 612 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: Example, the Washington Nationals, the Pittsburgh Pirates, those were teams 613 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: that clearly could use a Pete Alonzo. They're just not 614 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: going to spend like that, so it does start to 615 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: shrink his market. What do you think about Pete for 616 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? 617 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: I really want Pete back on this team. I can't 618 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: really imagine a Mets world at this point without him. 619 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: But it's also it's clear as day, and it has 620 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: been again last year this year, that he isn't a 621 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: player without flaws, Like I think his defense this year, 622 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: for one, that was bad. Heading in took another dramatic 623 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: step back. His ability to throw the ball a strange 624 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: and while he got off to that just rollicking hot start, 625 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: he did have like a mid season and swoon and 626 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: fade like a lot of these other guys did. And 627 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how much different his market is this 628 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: year compared to last year. Like you said, first base 629 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: his position that's idly been devalued in baseball. Bye the 630 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: fact that Peter Alonzo you can pencil him in for 631 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: thirty five home ors, a hundred and twenty RBIs. I 632 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: don't think that's exactly what's being bought and sold on 633 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: the free agent market, So I think you're gonna have 634 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: to probably grind out another few months of waiting for 635 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: this pe Alonzo thing. I'm assuming mid January again, similar 636 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: to last season and the silence of the night, and 637 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: I hope it's the Messa there at the end of 638 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: the day. I wonder if a team out there is 639 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: actually willing to give him a fourth or even a 640 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: fifth year after last year and then coming back into 641 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: this year, I kind of doubt it. And just like 642 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 3: you said, like a lot of those teams who need 643 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: first basement kind of had their first base. You guys 644 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: were talking about the Giants before we got on their team. 645 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: We expect to spend money this year. They can always 646 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: use a power hitter. I don't think they signed a 647 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: ped Alonso the block of Bryce Aldrich, like the Yankees 648 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: are going to be a team that could need the 649 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: first basement. I don't know if they signed p Alonso 650 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: when they have all that money on their books still 651 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: and the emergence of Ben Rice, Like, I just don't 652 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: know which of the teams that you think will spend money. 653 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: Actually like spending this money on this guy. Maybe it's 654 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: the Red Sox. I don't know. We'll see how everything 655 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: works out with them in Tristan. Costas know it's a 656 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: strange situation there, but it feels like the market is 657 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: oddly similar to last year. If the market similar to 658 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: last year, I think the Mets and David Serns just 659 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: played the same waiting game and hope they get their 660 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 3: guy at their number again. 661 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 2: James, you have to make a choice two good starting 662 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: pitchers or Pete Alonzo Big. I'm not saying that Cohen 663 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: has to make that choice. 664 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: It all depends who those starting pitchers are. The free 665 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: agent class for the season is a little bit lacking 666 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: at the moment, so I'm really curious about again, how 667 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: aggressive a team like the Mets are. I hope they 668 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: dive deeper into the trade market. I know guys like 669 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: Sandi at Contra, like we said before, and Joe Ryan 670 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: are likely going to be available. Like that's right, I 671 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: prefer to go We know how bad some of these 672 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 3: pitching contracts have been, But if you give me that choice, 673 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: I think I still would rather take Pete because I 674 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: still believe in a lot of these young pitchers on 675 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: this roster, Like I think next year you could walk 676 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: in and say, Nolan mcclaims no day star there brands 677 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: broke and start the year as a five to six 678 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 3: and Jonah Tongkson triple A refining his game ready to go, 679 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: and then the guys behind them like Jack Wender Joashan Santucci, 680 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: like the Mets have some of the best pitching prospects 681 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: in baseball. We'll Watson a big breakout this year, and 682 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: I think that, similar to this year, will be kind 683 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: of banking on them to come in like last year 684 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: Christian Scott's coming back off injury. But depends if they're ready, 685 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: depends on the summer months ago. I still just think 686 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: that we got to get Pee Alonzo then try to 687 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: figure out the pitching a different way, whether it be 688 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: trades or the young guys. 689 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: Again, all right, what would make Mets fans happy? Because 690 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: nothing makes them happy obviously except for what but you 691 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: mentioned trades. You're mentioning free agency. What would make Met 692 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: fans happy trading McNeil and some of these other guys 693 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: that are possibly have these contracts and using young guys 694 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: Manaiyah or whoever. The Senga, whoever they could possibly get 695 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: value for and using the young guys, or spending again 696 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: in the free agent market and trying to go for 697 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: the big fish. What would make Met fans more happy? 698 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 2: Because they spent a lot, they didn't make it. Now 699 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we have David Stearns, the master of 700 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: finding scrap heaps. You just said, right, guys off the 701 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: scrap even filling in spots. When they tried that with 702 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: some of their guys, those didn't work. So what makes 703 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: Met fans happy? 704 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean, just wearing something right here? I think would 705 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: make Mets fans happy. The only thing the Mets fans 706 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: want is to win the World Series. That's literally it. 707 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: However we get there, whatever it takes. I do think 708 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: a lot of Mets fans are ready for an all 709 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: in moment. I think similar to a Garrett Crochet trade 710 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: that the Red Sox made last year. If I had 711 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: to take the temperature of Mets fans what they want 712 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: the most, I'm assuming it's that we're at the same time. 713 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: I just don't think that guy's available. Garrett Crochets don't 714 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: come around every year, and the Red Sox have way 715 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: better prospects even last year, and I think the Mets 716 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 3: might even have now definitely better in the Mets had 717 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: available to them to trade last season. I think if 718 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: Mets fans don't go into next season with a front 719 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 3: line starting pitcher, however they perceive that guy to be, 720 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: I think there will be some disappointment. We're at the 721 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: same time, I do think that again, the greatest failure 722 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: of so far David Stearns and this Mets roster was 723 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: kinds of shopping too much in the middle class. Like 724 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: David Stearns, I think is still trying to learn how 725 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: to be a big market executive. And two moves he 726 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: made last year that were big market moves where Sean 727 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: and I and Frankie Mantas for forty million dollars combined. 728 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: You don't make those moves. You're the general manager of 729 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers. You make those moves when you're like, 730 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: I can spend these forty dollars, go over the luxury tags, 731 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: don't care. Let me try and get some innings that 732 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: I think are reliable that might have some upside. If 733 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: you don't make those moves, you probably keep shopping for 734 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: Jose Kintan and Matthew Boyd a few weeks later, guys, 735 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: who are you know with that ten million dollar range? 736 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: I think it's it's still him trying to learn what 737 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: it is. But at the same time, like you definitely 738 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 3: talk to guys like Dylan See's, Freddie Peralta, fran Bravaldez, 739 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: this Offseas's not saying I particularly want those guys, especially 740 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: my instant reaction of what I'm thinking about any of them. 741 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: But you have to find a way to get at 742 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: least some kind of stabilizing picture in herewever hold holda. 743 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: You can't criticize them an I a sign mean, he 744 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: was their best picture the whole second half last month 745 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: last year, and in the playoffs he was like a 746 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: bona fide a see, so you can't see that that 747 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: was good. But here's the thing about what you're saying 748 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: about David Stearns though, right, this is what big market 749 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: teams are supposed to do. They're supposed to be able 750 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: to get those guys right and fill the spots, which 751 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: but that didn't happen. The guys are already there. Didn't happen. 752 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: So that's why I wonder what makes met fan taby 753 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: So you'd rather go all young guys, and as far 754 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: as they're all in moment, they signed a guy for 755 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty five million, that's their all in moment. 756 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: That's the way we're all in guys. I mean, you 757 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: can't get any more all in than signing one Soto 758 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: for what you signed them for. 759 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 3: There still medium all in because again we went to 760 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: the season with very questionable pitching and again, like the 761 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: Shaumanai contract last year, he had an amazing half season, 762 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: but a lot of the Shamani success last year, and 763 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: we've all talked about this, the facts they changed our 764 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 3: mangled dramatically. So you had two months of a guy 765 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: that changed the way he pitched in season. And then 766 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: he's someone that has DEBLT injuries in the past. He 767 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: someone that has deble consistency issues in the past, and 768 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 3: you just saw both of those things come truition this 769 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: whole season. Again, shaumana I is the guy's a team 770 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: leaders guy love having this clubhouse. He was some who 771 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: was very accountable yesterday talking about his own struggles this year, 772 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: as he felt with the primary recent this team didn't 773 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: get to where they were. It takes a lot for 774 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: a player to say that you could kind of feel 775 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: minigh this year playing with the weight of that contract 776 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: he signed. He understood how important that money was and 777 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: how important he was to this team. It was probably 778 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: a situation where between him and Kodai Sanga, they might 779 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: have brushed those guys back from their injuries, knowing how 780 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: important it was to get them back in July when 781 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: that pitching was really starting to fall apart. Through June, 782 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: after they had a lot of injuries to the depth 783 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: guys and mess of the weird thing too with each 784 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: of them where they brought them back just before the 785 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 3: All Star break rather than just after like a lot 786 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: of teams will do with injured players. Korda, Sanga, Maz 787 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: return that Friday, Shaman and I and Mays return that Sunday. 788 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: Each of those guys pitched again in the following weekends. 789 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 3: They can kind of jam and give those guys as 790 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: many appearances as possible. I think it's the right thing 791 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: if they're healthy, but it seems like they might not 792 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: have been healthy, and maybe that rushing back is a 793 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: thing that kind of took all of them off their 794 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: roles for the second half. But it's still it's just 795 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: a weird pitching staff and a weird roster, and I 796 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 3: think that without again a super bona FI days on 797 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: the market, unless you make that Joe, Ryan or Sandy trade, 798 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: you're probably going to be shopping closer to the bargain 799 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: bin than the top line of these creations. 800 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: Once again, great analysis, James, really good stuff. Crazy season 801 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: to cover this seam and get to this point. We'll 802 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: be talking again soon. Appreciate you man, good catching up. 803 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.