WEBVTT - Why Does the Year Have 365 Days in It?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Sign Stuff reproduction of iHeartRadio. I'm Horrid

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<v Speaker 1>cham And in this year end episode, we are answering

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<v Speaker 1>the question why is a year a year? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>we have three hundred and sixty five days in the year?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it changing? And will the new year always be

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<v Speaker 1>the same? This is the second in our two part

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<v Speaker 1>holiday special, so be sure to check out last week's

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<v Speaker 1>episode about whether the North Pole is moving. Today, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue our conversation with my friend and planetary

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<v Speaker 1>scientist Matt Siegler, and he's going to fill us in

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<v Speaker 1>on the physics of our annual spin around the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>So get ready to count down the new year with

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<v Speaker 1>Science as we answer the question why is a year

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<v Speaker 1>a year? Hey? Everyone, Happy new Today we're celebrating another

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<v Speaker 1>orbit around our lovely Sun and the end of our

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<v Speaker 1>first year on Science Stuff. On behalf of everyone involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the show. Thanks for tuning in to get you

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<v Speaker 1>into party mode. We're going to continue my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>planetary scientists doctor Matt Siegler. Doctor Siegler is a professor

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Hawaii's Institute for Geophysics and Planetology,

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<v Speaker 1>and he works with NASA and the European Space Agency

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<v Speaker 1>on several missions. On our last episode, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how you can't really trust the North Pole no matter

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about the magnetic North Pole, the spin

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<v Speaker 1>axis of the Earth, or even the GPS top of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. It's all changing. So I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Siegler if the same applies to the year, as

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<v Speaker 1>our orbit around the Sun changed since the Earth was formed,

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<v Speaker 1>or will it change in the future. Here's my chat

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<v Speaker 1>with doctor Siegler. Okay, let's stitch over to the new year. Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>are you looking for to the new year?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, it's a very exciting new year.

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<v Speaker 1>You sound excited. Did you do anything specially in Hawaii

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<v Speaker 1>for New Years?

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently there is a massive, massive home fireworks display world

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<v Speaker 2>that goes on here such that it becomes kind of

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<v Speaker 2>out of control and chaotic where the skies are just

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<v Speaker 2>lit up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good luck with that. So I thought it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>fun to talk about in the Solar System whether the

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<v Speaker 1>year has changed for Earth and also where are the

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<v Speaker 1>years like in other planets. So let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>planet Earth. We talk about how the north pole is

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<v Speaker 1>changing on Earth. Is the year changing for planet Earth also?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it pretty constant?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the year is not really as malleable as the

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<v Speaker 2>spin axis. In a way, the year is how long

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<v Speaker 2>we go to take one revolution around the Sun, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that period ends up being pretty constant. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about how oval the Earth's orbit is, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's still take the same period to go around. It

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<v Speaker 2>will just go faster at some parts of it and

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<v Speaker 2>slower at other parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's what's going on. The Earth's orbit around the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun is pretty much a circle. If someone showed you

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of that orbit, you'd probably say, yep, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a circle. But actually it's not quite a perfect circle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit about one point six percent ovalish

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<v Speaker 1>or elliptical. And this has a few interesting consequences. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, it means we're not always at the same

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<v Speaker 1>distance from the Sun. In January, we're about three million

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<v Speaker 1>miles closer to the Sun than in June. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't affect too much how hot it feels on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>As we'll talk about later, the tilt of the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>has a bigger effect on the seasons. But it does

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the Sun looks a little bit smaller in

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<v Speaker 1>June than in January, about three point three percent smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also means that our speed around the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>changes throughout the year. In January, the Earth is swinging

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<v Speaker 1>around the Sun a little faster than in June, about

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of a mile per second faster. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like the holidays in New Year go by fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you can blame it on the earth slightly elliptical orbit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now the question is how did we get that orbit?

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<v Speaker 1>I have two questions. The first question is what determined

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<v Speaker 1>how long our year was going to be? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>tied to the formation of the Solar system.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, as the planets formed, they had a certain

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<v Speaker 2>time period over their orbit. And there is actually a

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting story about that that we think the way

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<v Speaker 2>the planets formed, Jupiter and Saturn were at slightly different

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<v Speaker 2>distances to the Sun than they are today, and that

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<v Speaker 2>actually ended up with them going into a resonance, which

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<v Speaker 2>is every one time Juwber goes around, Saturn goes around

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<v Speaker 2>twice or something like that. Right, And so what happened

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<v Speaker 2>then was that the gravity of the two giant planets

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<v Speaker 2>would yank on you each other, and that eventually caused

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<v Speaker 2>Saturn to move around and then slingshot out into the

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<v Speaker 2>outer Solar System, and that messed up Neptune's orbit and

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<v Speaker 2>fired it kind of out into the Coiper Belt and

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<v Speaker 2>may have knocked around all these icy objects out there

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<v Speaker 2>and caused them to go haywire and fall into the

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<v Speaker 2>inner Solar System, and some of them hit the Earth

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<v Speaker 2>and Moon and Mars. And that might be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the main reasons we have water here on Earth is

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<v Speaker 2>because of this chaotic change of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, scientists don't really know why we have so much

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<v Speaker 1>water here on Earth. Some of the water in our

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<v Speaker 1>oceans and lakes probably came from water that was trapped

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Earth when the Earth formed that was then

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<v Speaker 1>burped out into our atmosphere by volcanoes. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough water to fill up the oceans. So scientists have

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<v Speaker 1>a theory that the rest of the water on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>came from space, from icy comets or astero It's from

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<v Speaker 1>the far out Kuiper Belt in our Solar system. And

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<v Speaker 1>what doctor Siegler is saying is that the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>water ended up here to create deep oceans and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>life and us was the orbital Shenanigans of the planets

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter and Saturn. So as you look back and give

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<v Speaker 1>thanks this holiday season and New Year, be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give a shout out to the planets Jupiter and Saturn

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<v Speaker 1>for putting us here. Now, could that have happened to

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<v Speaker 1>us here on Earth? Were we thrown into this orbit

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<v Speaker 1>in that crazy chaotic young Solar system? Sort of? Actually

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<v Speaker 1>our planet came about from two smaller planets crashing into

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Could that have happened to Earth? Could something

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<v Speaker 1>have happened to make us have a different year in

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<v Speaker 1>our past? Or can it happen in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so this is something we're learning from studying

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<v Speaker 2>other Solar systems or exoplanets, right, is that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the planets seem to migrate around closer or farther

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<v Speaker 2>away from their star over time. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>the ideas that the Earth has not migrated a ton

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<v Speaker 2>over its time. But the Earth we think formed kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a pre Earth that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>smaller than Earth. And then there was another planet about

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<v Speaker 2>the size of Mars that crashed into us, and most

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<v Speaker 2>of that material became the Earth, but some of it

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<v Speaker 2>got thrown into a disc kind of like Saturn, and

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<v Speaker 2>that formed the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so the pre Earth could have had a different orbit,

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<v Speaker 1>could have had a different year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So you had these two planets that one

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<v Speaker 2>was a little closer to the Sun than the Earth

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<v Speaker 2>and so it had a shorter year, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>one was a little farther from the Earth and had

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<v Speaker 2>a longer year.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And they got into some kind of gravity tug of

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<v Speaker 2>war and crashed into each.

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<v Speaker 1>Other, and that's when the year was born. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the Earth year was born. Oh before that, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no Earth year after that impact. Now the year

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<v Speaker 1>was born, yes, when it just happened forzero point five

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<v Speaker 1>six billion years ago, not yesterday. No, And we can

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<v Speaker 1>tell when that started because the rocks on the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>that formed at the same time haven't been all messed

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<v Speaker 1>up by weather, and so we can date a rock

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<v Speaker 1>from the Moon and figure out how old the Earth is. Whah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating. And we don't think it's changed since then,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Earth year hasn't changed much.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean there's some perturbations to the year from

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<v Speaker 2>how much Jupiter might yank on us and alter our

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<v Speaker 2>orbit a little bit, right, pull us out a little

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<v Speaker 2>towards Jupiter. Venus might pull us in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But on average, the year has not changed substantially.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it has changed, but just a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and what do you think is going to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>the future. I think we're going to be stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>our year for quite a while. Actually this is not

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<v Speaker 1>quite true, Doctor Sieger says. There is something that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to affect how long our gear is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the future. So when we come back, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what that effect is and how other orbital

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<v Speaker 1>effects are going to fundamentally change how we celebrate the

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<v Speaker 1>new year. So don't say goodbye to the old year

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<v Speaker 1>just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. Hey, welcome back. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the physics of the new year, and so far we've

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<v Speaker 1>learned the Earth's orbit around the Sun is not a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect circle, and it's the result scientists theorize of two

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<v Speaker 1>planets crashing into each other. But once the crash settled

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<v Speaker 1>and the debris became the Earth and the Moon, our

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<v Speaker 1>orbit around the Sun has been pretty stable. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not always going to be true.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess in the long long future, roughly three or

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<v Speaker 2>four billion years from now, the Sun have expanded enough

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<v Speaker 2>that the outer atmosphere of the Sun will cause some

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<v Speaker 2>drag on the Earth and that might cause it to

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<v Speaker 2>lose a little bit of its momentum. Huh, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it would slowly spiral down.

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<v Speaker 1>In into the Sun. Yeah, so the year will get

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<v Speaker 1>shorter and short. Well, first of all, like, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>being dragged by the atmosphere of the Sun, we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not here, like we're cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so hopefully we're all living somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>We might see the Earth's year get shorter and shorter

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<v Speaker 1>as it drags into the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And it's kind of questionable or depending on what

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<v Speaker 2>model you might assume of how a star expands, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's enough drag to cause the Earth to spiral in

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<v Speaker 2>all the way, or if it just slows us down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and we end up a little closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the venus or crash in the venis sudden. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we won't see, but we can imagine that there

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<v Speaker 2>are some interesting ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we'll see from a distance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea is that the long term of our

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<v Speaker 2>solar system is that the outer atmosphere of the Sun

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<v Speaker 2>will expand away. There'll be a white dwarf star, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where the core of the Sun that remains is. And

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose the Earth will be a little closer, probably

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<v Speaker 2>because of this drag, and have a shorter year, but

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully there will still be some hulk of what used

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<v Speaker 2>to be the Earth going around there. And whether after

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<v Speaker 2>that it can never be a place where life could

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<v Speaker 2>re emerge, that's going to be an interesting, big question,

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<v Speaker 2>I see. But going through the outer atmosphere of the

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<v Speaker 2>Sun will be a traumatic period for.

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<v Speaker 1>The Earth, meaning there might not be anything alive to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate New Years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to do a sad one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. So the year will get shorter, according

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<v Speaker 1>to scientists, maybe a few billion years in the future

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<v Speaker 1>when the Sun expands and engulfs the Earth, making it

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<v Speaker 1>into a smaller orbit. Now, in general, the orbit of

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<v Speaker 1>a planet depends on how close it is to the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Planets close to the Sun move really fast and their

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<v Speaker 1>orbits are short, and planets that are far from the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun move slowly and their orbits take longer. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>mercury is the closest planet to the Sun, and its

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<v Speaker 1>orbit takes eighty eight Earth days. In other words, a

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<v Speaker 1>year on Mercury is only eighty eight days long. But Neptune,

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<v Speaker 1>the farthest planet from the Sun, has an orbit that

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<v Speaker 1>takes around sixty thousand Earth days or about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty three Earth years. So if you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to feel younger or older, you could just move to

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<v Speaker 1>another planet. I'm just trying to find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>make myself younger.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, if you measure it by years, then you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go further out in the source. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we have Mercury is close to the Sun and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's year is only eighty eight days long. Uh huh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you might feel pretty old pretty quickly if your

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<v Speaker 2>birthday is every three.

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<v Speaker 1>Months, as opposed to if you move to like Saturn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you go out to Saturn and your year is

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty Earth years, right, so you're barely a year

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<v Speaker 2>old and Saturn, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be like one and a half basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there you're a Saturnian infant.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness. Okay. There are two interesting things about

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<v Speaker 1>the physics of the New Year. The first is one

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<v Speaker 1>that most people know, and that is that the orbit

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth is not quite three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five days long. It's actually three hundred and sixty five days,

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<v Speaker 1>five hours, and forty eight minutes, Meaning the Earth doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>spin in place a full three hundred and sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>times in the time it takes to go around the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun and back to the same spot. It spins a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. But we celebrate the new year when

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<v Speaker 1>we fad three hundred and sixty five days, which means

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<v Speaker 1>the new year we celebrate is not actually how long

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to go overround the Sun, and we build

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<v Speaker 1>up this difference for three years until every fourth year

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<v Speaker 1>we add a whole new day to the year on

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<v Speaker 1>leap years, So if you really wanted to celebrate going

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<v Speaker 1>around the Sun a full orbit, you should wait until

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<v Speaker 1>about six am on New Year's Day to set off

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<v Speaker 1>those fireworks. The other interesting thing about the physics of

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<v Speaker 1>the new year is that the new year also doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the passing of the seasons. We're used to thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that a year is when we've had a full cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of winter, spring, summer, and fall, but actually our orbit

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<v Speaker 1>and the seasons are slowly going out of sink.

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<v Speaker 2>We celebrate New Year's conspicuously around the winter solstice, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but those events have changed where they would fall in

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<v Speaker 2>the year over time.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the wobble of the spinactive of the Earth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this one's a little hard to explain. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We celebrate the New ye near the winter solstice, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the longest night of the year for people in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern hemisphere, and it's the longest night of the

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<v Speaker 1>year because that's when the northern hemisphere is tilted the

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<v Speaker 1>most away from the Sun. Then six months later, when

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth has gone through half of its orbit, the

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<v Speaker 1>northern hemisphere is tilted the most towards the Sun, making

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<v Speaker 1>it the longest day of the year for people above

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<v Speaker 1>the equator. This is called the summer solstice, and right now,

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<v Speaker 1>those two solstices fall on December twenty first and June

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first. But as we talked about in the previous

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<v Speaker 1>episode about the North Coal, the Earth is wobbling, which

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<v Speaker 1>means its spin axis is rotating and changing direction, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a top that wobbles as it spins on

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<v Speaker 1>a table. Scientists think that in thirteen thousand years, that

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<v Speaker 1>wobbling is going to make the Earth tilt in the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite direction, which means the winter and summer solstices are

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<v Speaker 1>going to switch. In thirteen thousand years, the summer solstice

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<v Speaker 1>is actually going to be on December twenty first, and

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<v Speaker 1>the winter solstice will be June twenty first. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>in thirteen thousand years, those of us in the Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Hemisphere are going to be celebrating New Year's Day in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of summer. It's going to be hot, and

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the United States, if the United States

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<v Speaker 1>still exists in thirteen thousand years, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating the fourth of July in the dead of winter.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because the seasons follow the tilt of the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tilt of the Earth is changing regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>our orbit around the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Earth has a round enough orbit that the electricity of

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<v Speaker 2>the Earth's orbit is not a predominant cause of season.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, yeah, so it's mostly just this tilt.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's wobbling. So that means that in like ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years, it's going to be summer in New Year's Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in the northern hemisphere, what so everyone will

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<v Speaker 2>be like Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 1>So our year is not really defined by the seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seasons will slowly drift over thousands of years time scales,

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen thousand year time scales, right, it will change. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, So that's why I don't know when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about stoneheads being aligned for the summer solstice, I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe it's not aligned in the same way as

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<v Speaker 2>it was when they built it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? It means New Year's Day is

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<v Speaker 1>totally unrelated to the seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in the long game, New Year's Day is totally

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<v Speaker 2>unrelated to the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also arbitrary and changing at the same time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>these things we think are like, you know, set points

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives, in our cycle of society are really

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<v Speaker 1>in the long run due to physics changing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or due to culture.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing is fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't trust anything. Man, Just live with the impermanence.

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<v Speaker 1>He live in the moment. Just enjoy the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So to recap, the length of the year that we

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<v Speaker 1>have right now on Earth is the result of a

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic crash that happened billions of years ago that merge

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<v Speaker 1>two small planets together and put them in a single

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<v Speaker 1>orbit around the Sun. That orbit is pretty constant. The

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<v Speaker 1>length of the year is not changing, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>orbit is not a perfect circle, and we move around

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun at different speeds at different times of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is changing is the tilt of the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what determines the seasons. So in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be celebrating new Years in opposite seasons

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<v Speaker 1>from how we celebrated today. People in the northern hemisphere

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<v Speaker 1>will celebrate it in the middle of summer, and people

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<v Speaker 1>in the southern hemisphere will celebrate it in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of winter. Case it's still a celebration of surviving another

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<v Speaker 1>spin around the Sun plus or minus five hours and

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight minutes. All right, When we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to recap our favorite episodes of the year, including

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<v Speaker 1>which one surprised me the most and which one was

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<v Speaker 1>the most fun to make. So stay with us, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Hey, welcome back, Okay. In this third segment,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it'd be fun to recap some of our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite episodes of the year. In twenty twenty five, we

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<v Speaker 1>made forty three episodes on a wide range of topics.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked questions about animals, like do our pets lie

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<v Speaker 1>to us, can animals appreciate music? And do animals have consciousness?

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<v Speaker 1>We wondered about space topics like what's inside a black hole?

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<v Speaker 1>Or where are all the aliens? And can we terraform mars?

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<v Speaker 1>We also explored questions about technology like what is a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum computer? Can we upload our brains to the cloud?

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<v Speaker 1>And can you survive being cryogenically frozen? And we answered

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<v Speaker 1>questions about evolution and the human body and brain like

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<v Speaker 1>why do we have five fingers? Do we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait thirty minutes after eating before you can go swimming?

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<v Speaker 1>And it is food coloring that for you? I could

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<v Speaker 1>go on and on. So if you haven't gone through

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<v Speaker 1>our archive in a while, I encourage you to go

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. I guarantee all the episodes are fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>To pick which ones to recap, I ask the people

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<v Speaker 1>who work on the show to pick their favorite episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So first up is our sound mixer, engineer and general

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<v Speaker 1>manager of the show, Casey pegram. Casey is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I and every guest on the show sound great. And

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<v Speaker 1>believe me, we're recording pretty suboptimal conditions most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that the show stays on track and

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like it was all recorded in the studio. Is

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<v Speaker 1>all thanks to his magic. Back in October, Casey picked

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<v Speaker 1>this episode as his favorite Don't pull the plug and

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to live inside our electronic mind as we

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question can you upload your brain to a computer.

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<v Speaker 4>So, the idea of mind uploading, which is like a

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<v Speaker 4>hypothetical future technology, is that if you make a simulation

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<v Speaker 4>of the human brain, and you make it refined enough,

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<v Speaker 4>it will be as good as the real thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>the hope is that if it's good enough, we can

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<v Speaker 4>use this technology to migrate over to machines.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's in principle possible for you to capture that

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<v Speaker 5>level of detail from a human brain. We do it

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<v Speaker 5>from animal brains all the time. Unfortunately, those methods.

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<v Speaker 6>Require that you die.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't yet have wadys of looking at it without

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<v Speaker 5>taking chunks of your brain out, essentially pickling them and

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<v Speaker 5>then slicing them into.

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<v Speaker 6>Very very thin sections of brain. But what you're getting

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<v Speaker 6>is the instant after you had actually died. So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think you would want to be necessarily preserved in

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<v Speaker 6>that state, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey said he found this episode interesting because of the

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<v Speaker 1>topic and the viewpoints of the three interviewees. In the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to a philosopher, a mathematician, and a neuroscientist,

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<v Speaker 1>all interested in the idea of uploading your brain. Casey

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<v Speaker 1>said he liked that it had a great mix of

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<v Speaker 1>sci fi and philosophy, and that it's speculative but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time very plausible. You also liked the third

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<v Speaker 1>interview covered the exact main objection he had about uploading

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<v Speaker 1>your brain, which is that the copy you make of

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<v Speaker 1>you is not going to be a part of you,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it may think it is.

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<v Speaker 7>So why would anybody think that if we build a

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<v Speaker 7>simulation of your brain, then somehow you enter the simulation

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<v Speaker 7>instead of staying there where you are in your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I see, but yeah, that's not you, that's a copy.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning like, there's this fantasy that I would close my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel like I'm going through a tunnel and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly I'm in a computer. That's the fantasy, yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>in reality it's like I'll close my eyes and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>open them again, and then now suddenly there's something that's

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<v Speaker 1>like me on the computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But for the thing in the computer, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>the experience of going through the tunnel over to.

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<v Speaker 3>They Well, they wouldn't exist before, so maybe they would

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<v Speaker 3>have a memory, you know, like a false memory of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, false memory. This gets so tricky. This episode reminded

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<v Speaker 1>Casey of a short story called The Copy by Paul Jennings,

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<v Speaker 1>where a kid has a machine that can copy things,

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<v Speaker 1>except the copies come out mirrored. He eventually clones himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the two clones fight and he kills the clone.

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<v Speaker 1>But then later his mom tells him he's writing with

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<v Speaker 1>his left hand instead of his right hand, and that

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<v Speaker 1>his hair is parted in the other direction. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the clone and he didn't know it. That

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<v Speaker 1>is creepy indeed, So if you want to learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about how scientists think about the idea of uploading your brain,

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<v Speaker 1>go check out that episode. The next person I asked

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<v Speaker 1>was our editor Rose Segura. Rose lives in Spain and

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<v Speaker 1>she puts the whole show together, adding music and sound effects.

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<v Speaker 1>She's basically the reason we all sound so smart. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked her what her favorite episode was, and she said

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<v Speaker 1>there were many, but the episode about taking an elevator

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<v Speaker 1>to space was a particular favorite. I guess for her

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<v Speaker 1>a rows above the others. Today we are going to space. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to strap ourselves to a giant rocket

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<v Speaker 1>full of flammable fuel. Instead, we are going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator. It may seem like science fiction, but a

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<v Speaker 1>space elevator is something serious scientists actually think is possible

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<v Speaker 1>to build.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're not using a space elevator, the alternative is

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<v Speaker 8>a rocket, and rockets are dangerous and rather explosive. And

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<v Speaker 8>so the idea of a space elevator is if you

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<v Speaker 8>put like a really big spool of cable right at

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<v Speaker 8>that altitude and just sort of let it down very

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<v Speaker 8>gradually and slowly, and.

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<v Speaker 9>Then you have this straight or mostly straight cable that

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<v Speaker 9>goes from the surface of the Earth, so it's a

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<v Speaker 9>big stationary cable. And on this cable you would put

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<v Speaker 9>a climber or an elevator car or something which lifts

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<v Speaker 9>your payload up to whatever altitude you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosette said this was a favorite episod it because when

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<v Speaker 1>editing the episode, she felt like she was traveling around

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<v Speaker 1>space without a spaceship or spacesuit, just pushing a button

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<v Speaker 1>while of course listening to elevator music. Rose said she

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<v Speaker 1>liked how in the episode we make several stops kilometers

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<v Speaker 1>away from the surface of the Earth to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>the physics of space, which made her feel small lying

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<v Speaker 1>in orbit around the planet.

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<v Speaker 9>We want to advance the development of the space elevator

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<v Speaker 9>and hopefully get it built within our lifetimes. So that's

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<v Speaker 9>a perfect place to build solar power satellites. Rather large

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<v Speaker 9>habitats could be built there, Okay, colonies, things like that,

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<v Speaker 9>orbible factories. If you want to go to Mars, then

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<v Speaker 9>you can get to Mars in about sixty one days.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, it's doable.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean the question is do you have an

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<v Speaker 8>economic case for doing so? Right, That's that's a real question.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for me, I have three favorite moments from the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Was when I got to visit a quantum computer lab

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<v Speaker 1>at Caltech for the episode What Is a Quantum Computer?

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<v Speaker 1>The lab is led by Amazon's head of quantum hardware

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<v Speaker 1>and my friend, professor Oscar Painter. Hey, Oscar, how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Good to see you after so many years?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while. Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>All of these control electronics, right, is to use to

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<v Speaker 7>control about twenty of these quantum bits.

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<v Speaker 1>There's twenty quantum particles correct.

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<v Speaker 7>Which we are manipulating as quantum bits, and that circuit

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<v Speaker 7>lives down inside of this special refrigerator. And this refrigerator

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<v Speaker 7>is under vacuum, the temperature which is about ten million

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<v Speaker 7>degrees above absolute zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten million degrees so.

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<v Speaker 7>To give you an idea the coldest darkest parts of

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<v Speaker 7>outer space or that universe. Yeah, but this thing's about

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<v Speaker 7>thirty times colder than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even whoa. It's just cool to be there and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to take listeners with me, to experience what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be in front of such a cutting

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<v Speaker 1>edge technology. Now. My second favorite moment was when I

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<v Speaker 1>got my kids to do a live taste test of

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<v Speaker 1>different meats for the episode Why does frog Taste Like Chicken? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you four meats and you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what do you think of it? Oh? Very well,

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<v Speaker 1>taste like chicken. Does not taste like chicken.

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<v Speaker 3>Chicken?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the rabbit or the alligator alligator meat. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot better. Very chicken, very chickeny chicken

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<v Speaker 1>chicken like.

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<v Speaker 6>This is probably the frog meat.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? It is?

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<v Speaker 5>Very lushy?

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<v Speaker 1>No, how about the taste ye quin, So the alligator

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<v Speaker 1>meet definitely like chicken taste like overcooked. Okay, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think of your dad experience unsuing? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I was surprised my teenage kids agreed to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>And second of all, we actually learned a lot. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of set the stage for that episode really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I like that in that episode we learned that

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<v Speaker 1>lots of meat taste like chicken because basically all meat

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<v Speaker 1>is made of the same molecular mechanism and proteins. What

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<v Speaker 1>makes different meats taste different is something else. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know what that is, go check out

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<v Speaker 1>that episode. And my third favorite moment from the year

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<v Speaker 1>was when I interviewed Professor Jim Anderson for the episode

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<v Speaker 1>Do Animals Understand Death? In the episode, doctor Anderson tells

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<v Speaker 1>the story of a chimpanzee named Pansy who passed away

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<v Speaker 1>of old age, surrounded by her and best friend who

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<v Speaker 1>comforted her in her last hours.

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<v Speaker 3>The old female chimpanzee, she was lying up on a platform.

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<v Speaker 3>All three of the chimpanzees in the group came over

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<v Speaker 3>and gathered around her at once, and this was the.

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<v Speaker 1>First time this was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>And two of them were grooming her, her daughter, and

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<v Speaker 3>her long term friend, another adult female, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>adult male in the group came over and he bent

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<v Speaker 3>down and looked closely into her face, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>took her by the shoulder and gradually shoot her shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>while staring at close range into her face. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he laid her shoulder back down on the ground, looked

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<v Speaker 3>at her, and then moved away. What we had witnessed

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<v Speaker 3>was the Chris moment, where the adult male seemed to

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<v Speaker 3>be checking for any signs of life and perhaps realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that she had gone. Her daughter slept beside her all

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<v Speaker 3>night long.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the following morning, her long term friend came

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<v Speaker 3>over and sat by her. And because of that response

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<v Speaker 3>is by the male, he had left some straw on her,

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<v Speaker 3>so she gently cleaned the straw of her OIDI and

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<v Speaker 3>her sheesh and just sat by her for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I did this interview while I was traveling. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in a hotel room in San Diego and doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson was in Japan, and it was just a very

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<v Speaker 1>profound moment hearing a scientist talk about how animals relate

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<v Speaker 1>to dying and how he knew the end of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>things about his life. If we haven't listened to that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend it. Okay, with that, we reached the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the episode and twenty twenty five. We look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to making more episodes for you next year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start twenty twenty six with episodes about the signs

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<v Speaker 1>of imagination, whether supersensus exist, and why we procrastinate. At

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<v Speaker 1>least I think we'll get to it. We'll see anyways,

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