WEBVTT - 3 Effective Ways to Turn Your Life Around & Why Continuous Learning Is Necessary for Personal Growth with Novak Djokovic 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.520 Hey everyone, I'm so excited because we're going to be 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.560 adding a really special offering onto the back of my 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.039 solo episodes on Fridays. The Daily Jay is a daily 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.160 series on Calm and it's meant to inspire you while 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:16.120 outlining tools and techniques to live a more mindful. 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:16.720 Stress free life. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.279 We dive into a range of topics and the best 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.880 part is each episode is only seven minutes long, so 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.600 you can incorporate it into your schedule no matter how 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.000 busy you are. 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This week, we're talking 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.720 about your habits and how to develop better daily routines. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:44.920 Of course, if you want to listen to The Daily 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.519 Jay every day, you can subscribe to Calm, So go 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.680 to calm dot com forward slash Jay for forty percent 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:52.639 off your membership. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:01:02.880 Today, I would like to start off by asking you 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.360 j about your journey. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.800 You were born in Great Britain, born and raised in London, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:15.839 and you were kind of leading in a certain kind 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.959 of life that went in a certain kind of direction 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.280 and then a transformation happened and you've decided to go 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.480 on a spiritual journey for three years, if I'm not 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:29.880 mistaken years. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.160 So maybe can you lead us through the whole process, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.280 because it's really interesting to hear. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.800 Yeah, for sure, And I agree with you perfectly that 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.919 when we share our journeys, it's only to give voice 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.200 to everyone else's journey. And I always think one day 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.120 that everyone should try and write about their lives, not 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.360 because they want to have a best selling book or 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.960 they wanted to sell across the world, but when you 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.320 write about your lives, your family learns about you. Sometimes 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.320 I think my parents have been through so much, but 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.760 I wish they wrote about it because I want to 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.480 learn about them. So one of the things for me 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.400 is I obviously are born and raised in London, and 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.839 I grew up in a society where success and achievement 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.840 were seen as the metric of growth, that was the 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.400 metric of happiness. It was how successful were you, how 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.919 much money did you make, what kind of job did 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.600 you have, what status did you have. That's the kind 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.200 of culture I grew up in and I often joked 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.320 that growing up I had three options. I could either 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.120 be a doctor, a lawyer, or a failure. Those were 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.120 my three options. Because all my cousins and my family 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.640 members were in medicine, they were pharmacists, they were in law, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.720 and so I grew up in that kind of culture 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.919 and environment, and I saw myself as a young person 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.800 always drawn to things like art and philosophy and psychology 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.680 and the mind. Like I was fascinated by those things. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.680 I wasn't fascinated by science and math. I was more 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.800 fascinated by history. And so I saw myself very early 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.240 on being very different to the people around me. And 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.440 I think that everyone who's listening right now, everyone can 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.240 relate to that that maybe when you were growing up, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.480 there was something that was unique about you. There's something 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.040 different about you, and there was a path that you 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.480 were being encouraged to do. So at my time, when 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.240 I was growing up in London, the number one career 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.600 was to be an investment banker. Everyone was aspiring to 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.280 be an investment banker. This is before the crash, the 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.640 Lehman Brothers and the recession in two thousand and seven, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.640 so this is before that, and so everyone in my circle, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.040 whenever we talk about someone in family, especially in the 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.520 Indian culture, it would be very much. Oh, he's an 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.960 investment banker, he makes dismans money, et cetera, et cetera, 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.880 et cetera. And I got to a point where I 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.680 saw myself trying to move away from wanting to chase 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.600 material success because I started looking around and I was 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.240 seeing that people who had material success, even little amounts, 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.760 they weren't necessarily happier than anyone else. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.320 Now, when I was eighteen, I used to. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.720 Go and hear a lot of celebri these athletes, influencers speak. 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.600 And I would love to hear them speak. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.320 And this is why I love your story so much 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.680 and why the podcast to me was so powerful, because 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.880 what you've been through is just people can't imagine. Right, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.400 you think Odd Novak, he probably just trains. He was 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.440 given this god given talent of being an amazing tennis player, 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.719 and now he's famous and he's successful. It's like, but 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.479 you grew up in one of the most troubled times, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.320 in one of the most troubled countries, and what you've 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.760 seen and experience is like, no one would want to. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:32.279 Go through that. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.480 So for me, I was inspired by hearing these rags 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.120 to riches stories I was always inspired by people who 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.479 went from nothing to something, and I would go to 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.960 hear them speak. And then once I was told that 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.719 a monk had been invited to speak, and I was 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.680 thinking to myself, who wants to learn from a monk? 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.360 Like what am I going to learn from a monk? 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.160 Like what does a monk know? They just went from 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.320 nothing to nothing, Like, you know, what do they have 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.280 to share? And I had all these judgmental thoughts about 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.280 monks and spirituality and religion, and I was just like, well, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.200 what do they know? Like what have they achieved in 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.280 the world? And anyway, my friends forced me, and I 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.240 said to them, I'll only go if we go to 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.120 a bar afterwards, Right, if we go to a bar 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.800 or a club afterwards, I'll come listen to whatever this 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.080 guy has to say and then we'll go and have fun. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.480 And so I went to this event. And it's funny 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.560 that the best moments of your life are also the 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.880 most humbling, because I was blown away when I heard 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.239 this monk speak. And the reason I was blown away 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:32.279 is because he very clearly said that the greatest goal 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.560 in life is to use your talents and gifts to 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.840 serve the world. He said, people think that their greatest 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.960 goal in life is to use their talents and gifts 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.960 to become successful. He said, no, it's actually to become 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.520 a server of other people. And I'm eighteen years old 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.280 and I'm thinking, Wow, that's really powerful. And I thought 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.520 about this when I was eighteen, and you can think 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.000 about this when you're listening and watching right now. When 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.520 I was eighteen, I'd met people who are rich, I'd 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.839 met people who are beautiful. I'd met people who are famous. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.160 I'd met people who are talented, but I don't think 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.239 i'd met anyone who is truly happy. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:08.960 And he was happy. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.159 He had that, he had that calmness, he had that gentleness, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.120 he had that happiness around him. And at eighteen, I 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.240 was like, that's what I want. I want that. I 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.640 want to feel like that. And so I spent all 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:25.719 my summer vacations. Half of them I would intern at 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.320 a corporate institution. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:28.720 I would work in the city of London. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.520 I'd wear my suits, would hang out in steakhouses, would 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.080 go to bars. I'd be number crunching away doing financial work. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.800 And then the other half of my summer vacations I 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.839 would spend living with him. In India as a month, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.440 and then when I graduated, I decided that I preferred 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.080 the monk life to the management and their business life, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.160 and so I chose to go off and do that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.960 as a real month for three years. And so for me, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.120 it wasn't about me being spiritual. It wasn't about me 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.120 being deep or inquisitive or religious. I wasn't any of 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.120 those things. But I knew very early on that I 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:07.159 wanted meaning, passion, and purpose in my life more than 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.560 the other stuff, and that the other stuff is not 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.360 that it's not important, it's that it didn't have meaning 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.920 without this thing. And this monk really showed me that. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.200 So that's kind of like the first part of my 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:19.880 life and my journey. I hope I didn't talk for 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.800 too long, but thank you. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.960 For sharing that. That was really, really wonderful. Wanted to 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.200 ask you what made you. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.760 Do that step and make that decision to go to 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:37.120 the month life like you were doing that kind of 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.000 like half half in a way, kind of testing it out. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.520 For what attracted you to monk life more than sort 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.360 of say modern contemporary life that we have in the cities. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.840 I think it was the belief that if I was 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:55.760 really going to master my mind. If I was really 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:59.640 going to overcome my ego, if I was really going 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.200 to work on self mastery, the self mastery project, if 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.720 I was really going to master myself, it couldn't be 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:10.960 a part time job. It couldn't be a weekends thing. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.560 It couldn't be like, I'll do it tomorrow evening. It 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.680 had to be a real commitment, because I could very 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.000 clearly see that I and I still have right. I've 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.760 not overcome my ego. I'm still working on self mastery. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.000 It's not like it was all solved, but I knew 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.920 that if I was going to accelerate that journey, it 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.520 required a concentrated approach. Just like in tennis, like you know, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.040 you know that you don't become the best tennis player 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.840 in the world by playing on Saturday afternoon, And it's 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.440 the same thing with self mastery. You don't master the 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.719 mind by practicing on Sunday morning. You have to make 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.160 it a lifestyle. So that was one thing. The second 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.120 thing was that I realized I really wanted to serve 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.880 and give back, and I loved that the monks I 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.040 was living with were feeding and diush to being kids, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.280 to just being food, sorry to kids on the streets 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.600 of India. They were building schools and villages to provide 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.000 this ecosystem for people to live better lives. And I 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.240 got so moved by wanting to do service. And I 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.960 was thinking, that's what I want to do full time. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.560 I want to do service and and and to be honest, 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.679 I always had a few relationships that didn't work out. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.520 So I was like, maybe this is going to be easier. Yeah, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.720 maybe becoming a monk is going to be easier than time. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.120 some breakup healing time because I kept going through so 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.720 many failed relationships. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.280 So that was definitely a part of it as well wonderful. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:34.559 And so when you were there going through your transformational 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:41.880 spiritual journey, when did you come to realization what will 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:46.199 your life look like post being a monk? 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:46.680 Like? 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.880 Did you when did you feel that you will come 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:54.760 back to say normal life whatever whatever that is? UH 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.520 going to to coming two states and and uh and 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:04.040 starting what you started. Now you have your videos have 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.360 been watched more than more than billion times. You've been 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:12.120 chosen in the thirty under thirty in Forbes most influential People. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:18.040 I mean, you are motivational, speaker to millions and millions 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.920 of people around the world. I mean, how did this 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.760 come about? I mean you you literally created that from scratch. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.320 I think that there is something very very powerful in that, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.800 and I always love hearing about these stories and journeys 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.640 that have been built from the foundation up all the way. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.480 You haven't inherited anything. 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:42.320 You created something that when you were eighteen or nineteen, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.840 when you moved to to you know, pursue your spiritual journey, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.800 you didn't know what that's going to look like. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.920 So how did that all share? 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.840 Great question? Yeah, great question. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.400 So one of the first things I'd say is that 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.000 I actually know that when I lived this a monk, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.559 I wanted to be a monk for the rest. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.600 Of my life. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.800 And that was genuinely like in my heart, I was like, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.200 I want to do this forever, and as a monk, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.840 one day I'll travel the world and I'll share this message. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.439 That was in my head. That was my belief because 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:11.719 I was. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.600 Like, I'm gaining so much from this practice and this path, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.040 and then as a monk, I will travel and I 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.400 will share these teachings. So I always had a desire 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.880 to share these teachings, but I always thought I'd share 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.840 them as a monk. Now, as my monk journey went on, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.440 I came to the realization that I didn't belong there. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.360 You see, this is the interesting thing. Monk life gives 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.280 you more self awareness, and the painful thing about that 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.160 self awareness is then you have to accept what you're not. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.719 You have to accept who you are and who you're 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.200 becoming and what you're not. And I've realized that my 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.160 desire to want to be out in the world and 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.319 share this message and connect with people like yourself who 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.040 are spreading spirituality even through tennis, like I had this 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.800 desire and I knew that I had to fulfill that desire. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.480 And at the same time, without even saying this to 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.320 my teachers and my mentors, they also said to me 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.400 that we think you have a purpose beyond this space. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.040 And this is the powerful thing about mentors and coaches. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.440 And I know you have lots of mentors and coaches 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.520 and guides. I'm a big proponent of two types of mentors. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.000 So in the Vaders, there's two types of mentors. It's 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:22.120 called Vanni and Vapoo. Varni is the mentor that you 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.040 learn from that you don't meet it's the mentor that 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.920 you have through books, through podcasts, through listening, through teaching, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.960 through inspiration, and vapoo is the mentor that you actually 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.480 meet and you know them and they know you. And 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.920 so these two types of mentors are talked about, and 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.840 I believe that you can be mentored by reading about 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.920 someone's life even if you've never met them, and I 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.559 can also be mentored directly. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:47.280 So mentors are really powerful. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.959 And my mentors, my monk mentors, they saw they were like, no, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.360 You've got a different path. So anyway, when I first 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.800 moved back to London, I was around twenty five, twenty 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.880 six years old. This was in twenty thirteen, and if 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.160 I'm honest, I was in completely the lowest point in 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.040 my life because I felt like I'd failed being a monk. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.720 So a lot of my friends were like, oh, yeah, 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.680 you're back now. You didn't make it as a monk 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.760 who fails at being a monk. A lot of my 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.000 family was like, oh, what are you going to do now? 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.640 You're not going to get a job. You haven't worked 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.960 for three years. So I came back to all this 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:20.000 negativity and I was feeling so judged that I'd failed 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.080 in life, and I was feeling that myself, and that's 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.880 when all my Monk training actually helped me, because at 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.920 my lowest point, that's when the meditation, that's when the 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.280 mindfulness and I know you've talked about this. When you're 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.280 about to lose a game, that's when your you know, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.520 your mental mastery, your strategy, that's when it really kicks in. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.680 When you're down and you're about to lose that point, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.120 that's when you know, that's when your mind really kicks in. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.240 So that's how I felt that I was in this 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.120 process and this part of my life. Now how it 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.440 changed it is I always have this intention that I 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.960 wanted to share it with the world, and in London, 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.000 I was coaching companies, I was coaching individuals. I was 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.400 sharing this in small groups, in small circles, sometimes for free, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.360 sometimes with work, sometimes corporate companies, and it was all growing. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.840 But I had this feeling inside myself that this knowledge 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.720 is the property of everyone. I want everyone to have this, 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:16.720 and we're not seeing it everywhere. Yet we're still seeing 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.640 it in companies, we're seeing it in elite circles, but 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.040 we're not seeing it everywhere. I was like that kid 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.800 that's struggling with their mind. I want them to have. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.360 Access to it. And I thought, how do we do that? 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.400 And I thought video and social media was a powerful 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.920 way to reach people for free and to give them 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.640 access to all of this. So anyway, in twenty twenty fifteen, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.240 end of twenty fifteen, me and my friend went out 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.320 on the streets of London and we filmed four videos. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.800 And I had no strategy, I had no game plan. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.280 I just knew that I wanted to make videos that 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.400 started a conversation. And we put out these videos and 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.960 in three months, Arianna Huffington saw the videos and she 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.480 became my first public so porter of the content I 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.200 was making. And I'm very grateful to her for that. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.000 She saw my videos and she said we should share 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.840 this on the Huffington Post page. And so she started 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.440 sharing these videos on the Huffington Post page and the 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.360 videos went viral overnight at that time, so they got, 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.840 you know, tens of millions of views at that time. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.800 And for me, I was just making these videos in 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.680 my bedroom. I would come home from my day job. 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.200 I was working as a consultant at Accentsure. I would 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.200 come home in the evening, I would edit for five 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.800 hours a day, five days a week to make one 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.960 five minute video. I taught myself how to do it, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.920 and so for me, it just completely transformed my life. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.040 And then from then on I got more focused and 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.200 strategic about the fact that people wanted this even more, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.200 and I continue not only to make videos. We launched 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.000 the podcast because I wanted conversations. So me and you 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.960 had become friends and we'd been talking back and forth, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.560 and I was just like, wait a minute. Most people 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.200 probably don't even know that Novak is so deep and 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.120 spiritual and like focused on mastering. I was like, people 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.840 should know this inspire them so much, because you inspire 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.240 millions of people by being one of the most talented 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.640 players of all time. So people are like, yeah, I 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.280 want to learn from him. And then when I interviewed you, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.240 people got to see, oh, wow, Novak is so much 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.640 more than a tennis player. And I was like, ah, 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.240 this is what we need to show people. We're need 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.000 to show people how powerful the people that they look 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:21.560 up to are. And so you were you gave me 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:22.960 You were one of my I think you were my 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:27.280 second guests on the podcast, one of my first guests, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.160 and I'm so grateful to you because you gave me 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.480 the opportunity to show people. And if you didn't say yes, 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.080 maybe I would have had to wait. But you gave 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.280 me the opportunity to show people that athletes are doing 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.960 so much work in the background that people don't see. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:47.840 Absolutely and that and your podcast has reached one million 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:52.040 views daily, uh and and I mean that's that's that's incredible. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.320 I mean, that's that's amazing. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:59.000 Uh And and you've had some uh, really inspiring people 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:03.280 from various uh fields of life. And I remember that 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.679 after you've interviewed me, you went to see Mario gets 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:12.240 a football player from from Mario Is. We got in touch, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.480 you connected us and it was really interesting in my 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.640 own world, in athletes world, to really connect with people 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.240 that are like minded and like parted as well. Yeah, 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:27.800 and your big, big, big, big big wave and hug 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.360 to Mario. He is you know, as someone that is 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.680 that is sharing that message, it's beautiful to see. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:33.240 You know. 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.240 Lewis Hamilton is also someone that shares that message of 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:42.960 of of you know, spirituality, being genuine, being kind, being 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.920 aware and being mindful of of you know, how you 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.680 how you how you live and that everything in your 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:55.840 lifestyle effects not only your performance, your health, but just 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.359 millions of people around the world that are following you. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.160 So you you do serve as a great example not 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.240 only by performing well and by being a champion in 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:10.199 your sport, but also you have an opportunity to spread 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:15.159 the message and to spread the awareness about some really 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.680 important things and some really noble things. When you see 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.320 things from a larger perspective, it allows you to reflect 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.479 on yourself and your life to understand that you know, 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.440 we are all connected, and we are all dependent from 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:33.240 one another. You know, we have our individual journeys, and 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.960 of course we do care about ourselves and our closest people, 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:41.560 our family the most. But at the same time, I 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.680 feel like we need to be conscious of the effect 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.879 that we have in our community and the community in 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.000 our city and city, in our country. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:51.159 And it's all. 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.840 It all travels very fast, so I think, especially nowadays 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:01.119 with Internet and possibility to share the message through video, 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:07.040 video blogs, video blogs, or or through through lives. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.560 Like this one and interviews or whatever. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.320 Instagram is a great platform where you can share your 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.160 interest and your hobbies and your life and your philosophy 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.919 through images, through photos, and and through colors, which I 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:20.760 think is beautiful. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.520 So it'll you know, we have social media, we have 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.480 Internet that allows us to express ourselves, you know. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:31.280 And I think that's that's a huge quantum leap forward 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:36.320 for people to really connect even more, you know, in 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.439 only a couple of decades, so you know, so so 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:48.040 talking about that connection, I'm really interested when you came 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:52.400 back to to to London and when you started, as 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:56.680 you said, you know, doing training with corporations and some 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:57.400 companies and. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:04.320 Stuff like this. When did you know that? When did 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.399 you connect with your purpose of that you have today? 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.160 When did you know that that's something that you definitely 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.159 you know, it resonated strongly and you knew deep in 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.959 your heart and in your mind that you're going to 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:19.280 be where you are today. 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.480 That's a great question, really really great question. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:27.240 And I'd say that I started teaching and sharing when 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.600 I was eighteen years old, so straight after meeting the Monk, 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.159 when I came back from my first trip to India, 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.439 I set up a society at university called Think out Loud, 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.160 and every single week I would discuss a new theme 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.919 or topic just like this, and I would dissect it 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:47.080 from a psychological, spiritual, scientific, and human behavior level and 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.080 I would talk and when we started, we had like 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.640 ten people coming every week, and when I finished university, 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.359