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Speaker 3: Today, I would like to start off by asking you

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Speaker 4: You were born in Great Britain, born and raised in London,

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Speaker 4: and then a transformation happened and you've decided to go

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Speaker 4: on a spiritual journey for three years, if I'm not

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Speaker 5: So maybe can you lead us through the whole process,

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Speaker 5: because it's really interesting to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, And I agree with you perfectly that

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Speaker 1: when we share our journeys, it's only to give voice

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Speaker 1: to everyone else's journey. And I always think one day

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Speaker 1: that everyone should try and write about their lives, not

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Speaker 1: write about your lives, your family learns about you. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think my parents have been through so much, but

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Speaker 4: You created something that when you were eighteen or nineteen,

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Speaker 1: remember when I was taking this risk of quitting my

438
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Speaker 1: full time corporate job to do what I do now.

439
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Speaker 1: When I did that, and I saw every time I

440
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Speaker 1: took a leap closer to what was my passion and

441
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Speaker 1: my purpose. The world helped me and the universe helped me,

442
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Speaker 1: and if you want to call it God, God help me.

443
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Speaker 1: So what I saw was that there's a beautiful verse

444
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Speaker 1: in the Vaders and it says when you protect your purpose,

445
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Speaker 1: your purpose protects you. And I love that verse because

446
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Speaker 1: it's so true that our purpose is like this rare

447
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: jewel that everyone will tell you that it's worthless. Everyone

448
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: tell you it doesn't matter, everyone tells you it doesn't count,

449
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: everyone tells you it's not good enough, and therefore you

450
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Speaker 1: have to protect it. And when you protect it, the

451
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: universe protects you. And I feel every time I take

452
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Speaker 1: a leap towards my purpose, and I have taken big

453
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Speaker 1: leaps in my life, my purpose comes back and protects me.

454
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Speaker 1: And that's when I got the confidence that this is

455
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Speaker 1: what I'm really meant to do.

456
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Speaker 2: Because I felt a.

457
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Speaker 1: Lot of stuff, But when I saw momentum here, I

458
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Speaker 1: was like, ah, this is interesting. I felt at so

459
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Speaker 1: many things, this is actually going in the right direction.

460
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Speaker 2: There's something here.

461
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Speaker 4: Do you feel that the purpose is something that will

462
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Speaker 4: help people and encourage them to make that leap and

463
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Speaker 4: make that risk, And if so, how do we as

464
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Speaker 4: people find the purpose?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, really good.

466
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Speaker 1: So the way I've been explaining it recently is that

467
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Speaker 1: there's three aspects to purpose. There's interest, there's passion, and

468
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Speaker 1: then there's purpose. Interest is like a baby. When the

469
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Speaker 1: interest grows a little bit and it becomes a teenager,

470
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Speaker 1: it's a passion, and then when it grows some more

471
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Speaker 1: it becomes an adult, it's a purpose. So the seed

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Speaker 1: of purpose is interest. The seed of purpose is the

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Speaker 1: baby of just having interest in something. So it's not

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Speaker 1: that you were as good as you are at tennis,

475
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure, well, no, I'm interested.

476
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Speaker 2: Do you think you love tennis more now or when

477
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Speaker 2: you were a baby.

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Speaker 4: That's that's amazing, by the way, It's an amazing analogy

479
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Speaker 4: because it's so true because I can I can definitely

480
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Speaker 4: identify my career and my journey with the analogy that

481
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Speaker 4: you just presented. Because when I started dreaming about professional tennis,

482
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Speaker 4: about winning Wimbledon, there's you know, the more was recognized

483
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Speaker 4: ninest tournam in the world in the history of I sport.

484
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Speaker 4: When I was a teenager, when I started to feel

485
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Speaker 4: that I'm becoming strong enough to compete with professionals, I

486
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Speaker 4: don't want to.

487
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Speaker 5: Say the only thing, but.

488
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Speaker 4: Probably most of my thinking and most of my visualization

489
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Speaker 4: was going towards me winning the trophy, me accomplishing my

490
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Speaker 4: goals and my dreams.

491
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Speaker 5: Of my dream was.

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Speaker 4: Becoming the number one player in the world and holding

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Speaker 4: a Wimbledon trophy. And when I was seven, I was

494
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Speaker 4: making this improvised you know, Wimbledon trophies from all these

495
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Speaker 4: materials that I had, and looking myself in the mirror

496
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Speaker 4: and saying, you're a Wimbledon champion one day I was seven.

497
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Speaker 4: So I do believe I'm a strong proponent and supporter

498
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Speaker 4: of dreams and chasing your dream and nothing. You know,

499
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Speaker 4: everything is possible, nothing is impossible. And I felt it

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Speaker 4: on my own skin. But going back to the to

501
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Speaker 4: the interest, there's a baby of purpose. You're right, because

502
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Speaker 4: for me it was about winning, winning, winning, So it

503
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Speaker 4: was my self interest. It was my interest to accomplish

504
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Speaker 4: my own dreams and my own goals and my own visions.

505
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Speaker 5: Of course, with my parents that were there the biggest.

506
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Speaker 4: Supporters and you know, very limited amount of people around

507
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Speaker 4: me when I was growing up. But then obviously I

508
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Speaker 4: start to feel that that's at the same time, it

509
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Speaker 4: was always a passion and love because I really enjoyed

510
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Speaker 4: playing tennis and for the sake of holding a recket

511
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Speaker 4: in my hands and just being out there. I never

512
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Speaker 4: had an issue of really hating tennis or you know,

513
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Speaker 4: of course, we all have days where we feel less

514
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Speaker 4: of doing something that is our love and passion. But

515
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Speaker 4: I felt that the passion or desire was always there,

516
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Speaker 4: and the flame was inside. The purpose for me was

517
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Speaker 4: strongly related to that interest, right. And then going back

518
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Speaker 4: to the beginning when you said, you know, when you

519
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Speaker 4: listen to the monk speak about service as being the

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Speaker 4: biggest priority and the biggest satisfaction, you know, and the

521
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Speaker 4: biggest purpose in the life, that's something that I start

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Speaker 4: to feel only later, kind of midway through my career,

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Speaker 4: where I start to feel, okay, well this is yes,

524
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Speaker 4: that's my purpose, but it kind of originates from the

525
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Speaker 4: self interest. But now my purpose all of a sudden

526
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Speaker 4: is changing form and now it's about service. And now

527
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Speaker 4: I'm using the platform, of course, partly platform of playing tennis,

528
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Speaker 4: I mean, still competing professionally, and because I see it

529
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Speaker 4: as a platform where I'm able to grow, where I

530
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Speaker 4: feel that, you know, all the suppressed programs, fears, emotions

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Speaker 4: are surfacing like nowhere else in my life. So tennis

532
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Speaker 4: scored for me is in a way a battlefield and

533
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Speaker 4: and and a classroom. And at the same time, I

534
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Speaker 4: do feel that the Tennis UH as a whole and

535
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Speaker 4: as a platform allows me to share with people my

536
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Speaker 4: passion these kind of things, you know, these kind of

537
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Speaker 4: lives and and and and I try to always have

538
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Speaker 4: in back of my mind the amount especially of young

539
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Speaker 4: people that are following me, that are watching tennis and

540
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Speaker 4: watching every athlete, because athletes are so blessed to have,

541
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Speaker 4: you know, millions, if not billions of people around the

542
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Speaker 4: world following them, idolizing them. And so I see, this

543
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Speaker 4: is a great responsibility, if you know what I mean,

544
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Speaker 4: Because purpose, purpose is a responsibility as well if it's

545
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Speaker 4: if it's service, you know, but it's even if if

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Speaker 4: even if it's interesting, it's still a responsibility the way

547
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Speaker 4: I see it, because it is responsibility towards yourself. Yes,

548
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Speaker 4: if the purpose originates from service, it's a responsibility towards yourself.

549
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Speaker 5: And towards others.

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Speaker 4: And that's when you fully completed this cycle, and that's

551
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Speaker 4: where you feel abundance inside exactly.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I respect you so much, because I

553
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Speaker 1: know you called your book served to win, and you

554
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Speaker 1: know that's beautiful. I love that on so many levels,

555
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Speaker 1: and I think that that's such a great tennis analogy.

556
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Speaker 1: But you know, and and I've see I've been on thankfully,

557
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Speaker 1: I've been on the other side of yourselves, and I

558
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Speaker 1: know what they and I know what they feel like.

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Speaker 4: And I, by the way, go back to the videos

560
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Speaker 4: that that we've done, Jay and I and with Lewis

561
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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, we played some tennis and Jay has attempted.

562
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Speaker 5: To return my service. It was very very interested, it

563
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Speaker 5: was very entertaining.

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Speaker 2: It was we were we were showing.

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Speaker 1: How it's good to always be a student again and

566
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Speaker 1: that nobody was guiding us.

567
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Speaker 2: But it's true, like serve to win.

568
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Speaker 1: And I think that this is what I I've been

569
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Speaker 1: saying a lot, and I repeat it often because it

570
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Speaker 1: really helps crystallize. It is like your passion makes you happy,

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Speaker 1: but when you use your passion in the service.

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Speaker 2: Of others, it becomes a purpose.

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Speaker 1: So what you're doing is you play tennis, and you're

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Speaker 1: a tennis player, and that's amazing. But now because of

575
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Speaker 1: the platform that you've gained through being the number one

576
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Speaker 1: tennis player in the world, you're using that to serve

577
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Speaker 1: and that's the whole goal that everyone can achieve. Whether

578
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Speaker 1: you're a teacher, you're a doctor, you're a nurse, you're

579
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Speaker 1: a you know, you're a football player, you make videos

580
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Speaker 1: like me, whatever you do.

581
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Speaker 2: All you have to do is Okay.

582
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Speaker 1: Now that I've done this, how can I use what

583
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Speaker 1: I have to help other people? And you will feel

584
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Speaker 1: so much more happiness and joy from that. No matter

585
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Speaker 1: how big or small, or successful or whatever you see

586
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: yourself as when you start giving away what you have

587
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Speaker 1: in the form of time, ideas, resources, money, energy. Remember

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: it's energy, like time and money. It's all energy. That's

589
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Speaker 1: what you're really giving. And when you give your energy

590
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Speaker 1: to someone and especially your actual time and you want

591
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Speaker 1: to see the work change, you'll feel so much more

592
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Speaker 1: joy from that. I really believe that I used to

593
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Speaker 1: take a lot of people and know back, I know

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Before I started making videos, I

595
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: used to take a lot of retreats to India where

596
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Speaker 1: people could live where I lived as a monk, So

597
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Speaker 1: I would take these retreats to the ashram. And I

598
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Speaker 1: remember taking a man and he then took his children afterwards.

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Speaker 1: He was a successful businessman in London. He took his

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Speaker 1: children afterwards. They were about thirteen fourteen years old, and

601
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Speaker 1: he said that it was the best trip ever for

602
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Speaker 1: them because they were blown away by how grateful kids

603
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Speaker 1: in India were with much less than they had in London.

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Speaker 1: And he said that the perspective that they gained from

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Speaker 1: serving these kids who are just grateful to have a

606
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Speaker 1: bowl of food now, just to have hot food for

607
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: these kids was like their birthday party. And when his

608
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: kids saw that, they gained so much. And I really

609
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Speaker 1: feel that the challenge here we have the challenges so

610
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: many people have his mental health and that's that scientifically

611
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: has been shown to be eased and healed when we

612
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Speaker 1: help other people and when we serve other people as well.

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Speaker 2: Not that it's the number one cure or anything.

614
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I'm saying it is a

615
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Speaker 1: method that can be very helpful when we're feeling pain

616
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Speaker 1: to help others and to serve others, because it puts

617
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Speaker 1: our challenges into perspective and it gives us so much

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Speaker 1: more of a greater worldview.

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Speaker 4: That's beautiful, And thank you for graciously mentioning my book,

620
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Speaker 4: and you just publish your book. Think like a monk, right,

621
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Speaker 4: can you maybe share, you know, with people something about

622
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Speaker 4: you know, those those meditations that you've shared in the book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: The book's called Think like a Monk.

626
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Speaker 1: And the reason why it'sooled Think like a Monk is

627
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Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone needs to live like one

628
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Speaker 1: to think like one. And I really believe that Novak

629
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Speaker 1: thinks like a monk in some parts of his life.

630
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people I interview on my

631
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: podcast already think like monks because the monk mindset has

632
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Speaker 1: three key aspects to it. The first is monks always

633
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Speaker 1: focus on the root of the issue. They always go

634
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Speaker 1: to the core. They always go to the root. They

635
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Speaker 1: don't worry about all the branches and the leaves. The

636
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Speaker 1: second things that monks do is that everything is very intentional.

637
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Speaker 1: Everything is very intentional. It's focused. It's not just by

638
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: chance or by luck or by hope it happens. It's

639
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: not hopeful, it's not lucky, it's not chance based. It's intentional.

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Speaker 1: And people are very focused on their actions.

641
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Speaker 2: And you know, you know this.

642
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Speaker 1: You have an intentional diet, you have an intentional workout plan,

643
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Speaker 1: and of course there's room for spontaneity. Of course, there's

644
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: tons of room for creativity and spontaneity. But the real

645
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: leaders know that routine gives birth.

646
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: To real spontaneity. Right.

647
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Speaker 1: It starts with discipline, and then the third and final

648
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Speaker 1: part of thinking like a monk is being able. I

649
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Speaker 1: think we need a world that is more compassionate, more empathetic,

650
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Speaker 1: more mindful. And so these meditation practices that I share,

651
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: I share three different types breath work, visualization, and mantra.

652
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: And so these are the three main core forms of meditation. Breathwork,

653
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Speaker 1: and I know you had Whim Hafon, who I'm a

654
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Speaker 1: huge fan of, and Whim's fantastic and he's you know,

655
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Speaker 1: he talks a lot about breathwork. Visualization, what Novak was

656
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Speaker 1: saying he did earlier where he visualized himself winning the

657
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Speaker 1: Wimbledon trophy. Visualization is an ancient form of transporting the mind.

658
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: And there's studies now that show that virtual reality does

659
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: the same thing to the body and the mind as

660
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the actual thing. So when you're standing on the edge

661
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: of a cliff in virtual reality, your mind is having

662
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: the same fear as when if you're actually standing on

663
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Speaker 1: the edge of a cliff. So when you visualize something

664
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: in your mind, it's actually real. If you visualize yourself

665
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: at a beach, you feel the calm of the ocean.

666
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: If you visualize yourself on a mountaintop, you'll feel the

667
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: serenity of the peak. If you visualize yourself winning a trophy,

668
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: working hard, focusing on the process, practicing, becoming better, you

669
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Speaker 1: become better. If you can't hit a particular shot in

670
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Speaker 1: real life, if you visualize it, you pay then actually

671
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: be able to do it in real life because you've

672
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: seen it. Everything that we see, whether it's your favorite

673
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: car or whether it's a beautiful home, it existed in

674
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: someone's mind before it existed in reality. So we have

675
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Speaker 1: to realize that. So that's visualization. And the third and

676
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Speaker 1: finalist sound and mantra. And the reason why sound is

677
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: so powerful is sound transports us quicker. If you think

678
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: about your favorite song from when you were a teenager

679
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: or when you first fell in love. If you hear

680
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: that song, you're back in that moment already, the blow,

681
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: back in the flow, when you're hung that you want

682
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: a trophy to or whatever it may be.

683
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 2: You're back in the moment.

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Speaker 1: So songs and music and mantra mantra is the repetition

685
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Speaker 1: of a particular set of words, and that repetition can

686
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: allow you to get back in the zone. And so

687
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Speaker 1: after the tender Novak does this when he's about to

688
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: play Tennisee is a mantra that he may repeat. I

689
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: have manchos that I repeat before I go on stage.

690
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: I have mantras that I repeat when I feel negative.

691
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: These mantras change your mindset. So I share that.

692
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Speaker 2: Do you want us to do one together? Novak? Would

693
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: that be fun or not?

694
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 5: Sure?

695
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: Sure? Of course? Of course? Actually should we do it?

696
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: Should we do it quick meditation together?

697
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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

698
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Speaker 2: Let's do a quick one, Okay, if you want to,

699
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: we don't have to.

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Speaker 5: No, no, No, it's absolutely fine. Love it.

701
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm just checking. I didn't know where you

702
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: want to.

703
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Speaker 4: If you want to, people would love to actually experience

704
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: that live and what what that sounds like or what

705
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: it looks like, what it feels like.

706
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna do a short one.

707
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Speaker 5: Yes, can you hear the music?

708
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Speaker 2: Novak? Tell me yes or no?

709
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna ask you all to close your eyes,

710
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: and what I want you to do now is bring

711
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: your awareness to calm, balance, ease, stillness, and peace. Whenever

712
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: your mind wanders, just gently, in softly bring it back

713
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: to calm, balance, ease, stillness, and peace. Place your left

714
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: palm on your stomach, and as you breathe in, feel

715
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: your stomach come out. And as you breathe out, feel

716
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: your stomach going. As you breathe in, feel your stomach

717
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: go out, And as you breathe out, feel your stomach going.

718
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Speaker 2: Breathe in for account of the one to three four,

719
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Speaker 2: and breathe out for account of one, two three four.

720
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Speaker 6: Breathe in, breathe out, breathe in, breathe thou, breathe in, breatheou.

721
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Speaker 1: Allowing the one two three four to become your guide.

722
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Speaker 1: And now repeat after me, I am grateful for and

723
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Speaker 1: fill in the blanks whatever you're grateful for. It could

724
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Speaker 1: be a person, a place, a project. See, we don't

725
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: reflect on the good times as much as we reflect

726
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: on the bad times. We remember the bad times more

727
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: than the good times, because when we go through something bad,

728
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: we cry for a month, but when we go for

729
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: something good, we celebrate for a night. And so it's

730
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Speaker 1: so important to deeply step back into a space of

731
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: gratitude and you can visualize a moment in your life

732
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Speaker 1: that you were extremely grateful. Visualize what could you see,

733
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Speaker 1: who was around you, where were you, what was in

734
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: the sky, what was on the ground, and what could

735
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Speaker 1: you hear? Was it someone's voice, was it particular music?

736
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: Was it the cheers? And what were you feeling at

737
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: that time?

738
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Speaker 2: The love? The joy?

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00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: This time when you breathe in, breathe in all of

740
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Speaker 1: that gratitude, that joy, and that kindness, and breathe out

741
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: any negativity, stress or pressure. Literally step back into that

742
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: moment and experience the gratitude in your heart. Extract it

743
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Speaker 1: from that moment, take it all into your body and mind,

744
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: and breathe out any stress or negativity. And when you're ready,

745
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: in your own time, at your own pace, when you're ready,

746
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: you can gently and softly open your eyes. So that

747
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: was a very quick version. That was about three minutes.

748
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: But you can see how we did all of them.

749
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Speaker 1: We did breath work, we did visualization, and even mantra

750
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Speaker 1: I am grateful for And you can see very quick

751
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: clear how you can get into such a deep state.

752
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: And if you think about our negative states, we don't

753
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: even need to meditate. You're in a negative state. And

754
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: so when we deeply connect with gratitude in this way

755
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: through visualization, through all our senses, what can we hear,

756
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: what can we see, what can we smell, what can

757
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: we taste? Then gratitude becomes real, it becomes physical, and

758
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: that's what we all need to do. So that's just

759
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: a simple meditation. Thank you Novac for letting me share

760
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: it much.

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

762
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 4: And it was very profound, and I just I think

763
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of miss misinterpretation and misperception about

764
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: what meditation is. And I think you you really beautifully

765
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: broke it down in a simple way, you know, through

766
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 4: you were guiding us through three steps. And I think,

767
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 4: you know, there's you know, a lot of I guess

768
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: parts of the world and different religions that think, well.

769
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 7: Meditation belongs to you know, Hinduism or Buddhism, and it's

770
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 7: not power of our religion and we should as such,

771
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 7: we should refuse it. So so I think it was

772
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Speaker 7: really interesting the way you've explained it and the way

773
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Speaker 7: you've you've kind of tried to put it closer to

774
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 7: to to a perception of the mind of really making

775
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 7: it clear by the meditation is breathing. Meditation is prayer

776
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 7: as well, because affirmations or mantras are prayer work. Yes,

777
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: And visualization is something that you are doing in any

778
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Speaker 7: religion and any part.

779
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Speaker 4: Of the world because we all we all visualize ourselves

780
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: being healthy, we all visualize ourselves achieving something in our life.

781
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: And so meditation is everything.

782
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: But meditation is mindfulness of being focused on that moment

783
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Speaker 4: and being aware that you're breathing. Because bread, we talked

784
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: about bread. I talked with Charvine actually about breath, and

785
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 4: and it's it's such a it's such a powerful yet

786
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Speaker 4: so underrated function.

787
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Speaker 5: Right.

788
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 4: We completely breathe once we stop breeding, we stopped living, rereading,

789
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: So why should we all focus on that?

790
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 5: I mean, what's what's the big deal about breeding? Right?

791
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: But then you know, when you learn how to breathe consciously.

792
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: Like I remember when.

793
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Speaker 4: I was earlier in my career, when I was starting

794
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: to compete on a professional level, I was struggling with

795
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: allergies a lot as my nose was clogged up.

796
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 5: I just I had.

797
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: I had a lot of doctors look at it, and

798
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: I even had some intervention on like one of the

799
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Speaker 4: one of the like left.

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Speaker 8: Side of the of the nose and trying to open

801
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Speaker 8: it up, and and so many things were coming out,

802
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 8: and then no one can really understand what is going

803
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 8: to kept coming back.

804
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: And so I did change my diet, which affected a

805
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: bit in a great you know, in a great manner.

806
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I felt whenever I would

807
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 4: get anxious on the court or feel too much pressure,

808
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 4: it would start to happen again. I'd start to have

809
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: this sensation of choking, of having lack of breath and

810
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: so forth, which would then obviously completely jeopardize my physical

811
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: state that I'm in, you know, I would feel tired,

812
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: i would feel fatigued, especially if I'm playing on like

813
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 4: really big heat like Australia for example.

814
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 5: But when I started doing you know, yoga.

815
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Speaker 4: Practice, and when I started doing conscious breathing, it helped

816
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 4: me tremendously and it was so simple.

817
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: And I.

818
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Speaker 4: Encourage a lot of people that don't know where to

819
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: start with all this, you know, like meditation, visualization, It

820
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: might seem a little bit abstract, like start with conscious breathing,

821
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Speaker 4: because and what you've done with us, You've led us

822
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Speaker 4: through to counting the breaths right one, two, three, four, one, two, three, one, four,

823
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Speaker 4: in four out and there are you know, millions of

824
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 4: ways you can do that. And and but just simply

825
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 4: starting to really be conscious of your breath, focusing maybe

826
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: on the tip of your nose or something like that,

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Speaker 4: or feeling the chair that you're sitting in. You know,

828
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: then you're starting to train yourself to be more in

829
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Speaker 4: the present moment.

830
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Speaker 5: I think we we you.

831
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Speaker 4: Know, as as as a professional athlete and being in

832
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 4: an individual sport, I get to feel a really big

833
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 4: leaps sort of say or or transformations of emotional.

834
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Speaker 5: States very quickly. You know, I have no one really

835
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Speaker 5: to rely on.

836
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Speaker 4: So at times, you know, as confident I am in

837
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: myself and comfortable in my own skin and being so experienced,

838
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like, oh geez, you know, I wish

839
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: there was maybe someone like I wish I had maybe

840
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: another miner or two to sit down and like recollect

841
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: before recover before I step out and compete. But you know,

842
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: I don't, So I have to find a way. And

843
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: the more I train myself to be mindful and to

844
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 4: be present, the more I feel my breath and the

845
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: more I'm recovering my energy, and as a result, the

846
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 4: more I feel I'm performing better right because I'm more present,

847
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of a lot of people,

848
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: including myself, you know, we we find ourselves, you know,

849
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: spending so much energy and so much time thinking about

850
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: what has happened and the events that we want to

851
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: change or what will happen, trying to understand predict the future,

852
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: or being afraid of something that it might be coming.

853
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, the only real moment we

854
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 5: have is now.

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00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: And you know, living in the present moment is a

856
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 4: is a deep wisdom of every religion, you know, regardless

857
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Speaker 4: of where you're coming from, what you're doing, whether you're

858
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: doing meditation, where you're da, Buddhism, Christianity, mostly yours you,

859
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: everyone understands that the power of being in this morning,

860
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Speaker 4: power of being in the now, actually allows you to

861
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: really fully manifest your own capabilities and to get the

862
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Speaker 4: best out of yourself. So so that was very powerful, Jay,

863
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Speaker 4: And I'm just going to go through some of the

864
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Speaker 4: questions that people ask already, I'm going to go into

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Speaker 4: one of the questions. So this is coming from the

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Speaker 4: profile who Now Poorer hit seven ninety.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for a question.

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Speaker 4: Can you please share your thoughts and ask you, ask Jay,

869
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: what is the end point of purpose?

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Speaker 5: Of purpose? Okay, interesting question.

871
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: So I always from the traditions that I've studied as

872
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: opposed to just giving you my opinion, because I believe

873
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: that people have explored happiness and meaning in purpose far

874
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: longer than I have, quite frankly, and so from the

875
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: traditions that I've studied, the answer is that anything that.

876
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: Is truly.

877
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Beautiful, spiritual and powerful, it's always evolving. There is no

878
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: end point. So you see that even in service, there's

879
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: no end point. There's no point someone could say I've

880
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: done enough for the world, right.

881
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: You can't.

882
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Who could ever say that? You could never say I

883
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: have now done the most I could possibly do. Right,

884
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: So there is no end point of purpose. And it

885
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: is our fascination and addiction to the end that stops

886
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: us from starting. That's the issue that we have this

887
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: big picture of like purpose is like this thing that's

888
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: going to solve my whole life, and it's it's what

889
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm searching for. And that's why I said, no, just

890
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: look for the interest. Start with the little baby footsteps

891
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: of interest of the baby steps. And if you start

892
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: with just to interest, it can naturally grow and continue

893
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: to grow. So we get so fascinated by the end

894
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: of stuff, but we don't start, and that's how we feel.

895
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: We always say, oh, I'm never going to get to

896
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: the end of that book, so I probably won't start it.

897
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I'll probably never get to the end, so I won't

898
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: start it. So don't let the fascination with the end

899
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: stop you from starting.

900
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 4: Thank you for answering that, Jay, This is a question

901
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: from the the Bather family.

902
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 5: Thank you for a question.

903
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: How much percentage of the tennis game you feel comes

904
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 4: from the mental strength to win the game.

905
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: So it's an interesting one if you don't mind, Jada.

906
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: I think I think I should answer this. I think

907
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: I should.

908
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: I think I think it's a really really high percentage.

909
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: I think mental aspect is the most important I guess

910
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: aspect or element of winning tennis or anything in life really,

911
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: because if you're telling yourself, I have not prepared well.

912
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 4: If you allow your doubts be stronger than your convictions,

913
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: be stronger than your confidence, than your self encouragement, then

914
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: obviously that is exactly how you're going to feel. And

915
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: Jay has wonderfully put you know, described the visualization and

916
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's scientifically proven that when you visualize something,

917
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: and when you not only think something the thought, but

918
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: when you actually feel it in your whole body, that's

919
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: when the magic happens, in both good way or a

920
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: bad way.

921
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 5: So if you feel fear of being in a in.

922
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: A center stage, or if you're afraid of your opponent's

923
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: game and you have doubts that you can overplay him,

924
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 4: and then you have doubts that even if you hit

925
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: two thousand backhands and last two days, you still don't

926
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: feel confident enough to go for that shot and you're

927
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: questioning it. Of course your body and you know your

928
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: whole being is going to react in a way that

929
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 4: you are commanding it.

930
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 5: So I do feel that the mental aspect is.

931
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 4: The crucial, the you know, determinant of whether you're going

932
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: to perform well and as a result, whether you're going

933
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 4: to win or not. So, of course I'm not saying

934
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: that it's all. I'm not taking one hundred percent of

935
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 4: victory depending on the mental hospital because of course you

936
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: have to train, you have to put in the work,

937
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 4: you have to be disciplined, you have to understand.

938
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 5: What serves you, what works for you in terms of training,

939
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 5: the amount of training, the surrounding.

940
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: That you have around you, the recovery routines, the daily routines,

941
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: what puts you in the flow, right, so when you

942
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 4: get on the court, you want to be in that flow.

943
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 4: And of course there are some places in the world

944
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: where I play where I feel more comfortable, some places

945
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: where it maybe feel less comfortable. But in the end

946
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: of the day, I try to train myself daily and

947
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: put as much as work and I think value the

948
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: mental training as much as I value my physical training.

949
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: It's it's really really important, especially when you get to

950
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: the highest level of professional competition.

951
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: Great answer, man, really good answer. Thank you.

952
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: So I'm just going to go into some of a

953
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: few more questions Jay, thank you for of course.

954
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: Man, it's great your audience asks a great question.

955
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you.

956
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 4: This is a good question coming from a profile Rajan

957
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: kp twenty three.

958
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 5: How do you balance making a living and living your purpose?

959
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.

960
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: So the realist advice is there are certain people like

961
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: Novak who knew very early on what he wanted to do.

962
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: And I know this from the interview that we've done together,

963
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: and he was very sure about it, and he was

964
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: able to pursue it, and it was his passion and

965
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: it's become a purpose.

966
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: He's using his platform to serve others.

967
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: Now, there are a group of people like that, And

968
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: if you're asking this question at twenty, I'm guessing you're

969
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: not one of those people. Because if you wanted to,

970
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, be in a certain career and be in

971
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: a certain path, you start at an early age. I

972
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: was late to the game, by the way, as well,

973
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: Like I started the beginning of what I do now

974
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: at age twenty eight. Like that's how old I was

975
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: when I really started this from a career standpoint, even

976
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: though I've been doing it for so longer before. And

977
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: so if you're in that position, my advice to people

978
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,959
Speaker 1: is be in your day job.

979
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: You don't need to quit your day job. You don't

980
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: need to suddenly throw it away.

981
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 1: Be there and learn everything you can from your day

982
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: job that will probably be useful in the future for

983
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: your passion and your purpose. And then at the same time,

984
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: use your free time to invest in your PA And

985
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: that's really the key as to whether you're truly passionate

986
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: about it or not. So I used to finish work

987
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: at my day job, my corporate day job at nine pm.

988
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd get home and I'd work on my passion

989
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: from nine pm till two am. And then on the weekend,

990
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: guess what, I didn't go out and have a social life.

991
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I was working on my purpose. I was editing videos again,

992
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: I was learning video editing, and I was starting the

993
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: journey I am now. Even now, for the past few years,

994
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: I put in more time into my purpose than I

995
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: do into any other area of my life. You know,

996
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: I was building my podcast. I wanted to interview Novak.

997
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: He wasn't coming to the US. I flew out, you know,

998
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: to meet him because a I was passionate about meeting

999
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: him and learning from him, and I really wanted to

1000
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: interview him. And so you've got to go out and

1001
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: show that you care about your purpose. And so what

1002
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: it's going to require is you don't need to quit

1003
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: your day job. I would never recommend it to anyone.

1004
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: It's what you do with your free time. And what

1005
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: will happen at one point is you will see that

1006
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: your purpose is growing and you can then make the

1007
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: leap in a gentle and natural way, rather than just

1008
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: dropping everything and trying to make a leap and then

1009
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: it may affect your family. And I don't know what

1010
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: situation you're in, but I would always say to people

1011
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: that for some time you will have to have your

1012
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: feet in both boats and it's uncomfortable, but then you

1013
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: can make that leap over afterwards.

1014
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: That's beautiful. Thank you for your answer.

1015
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Jay.

1016
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: The last question, actually I'm going to merge two questions

1017
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: in one okay related uh. One is from life Loving Chrissy,

1018
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 4: Thank you for a question what is depression truly? And

1019
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: the other question is from Aditamaniam. Thank you for a

1020
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: question how do you stay calm during the time of failure?

1021
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 5: And how do you how do you build your self belief?

1022
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Mm? Wonderful. We should both answer them.

1023
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: You should answer them too, but yeah, because you can

1024
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: speak to the second one a lot. So when it

1025
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: comes to define, let's do the first question first, the

1026
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: defining depression. You know, I'm not a medical professional, so

1027
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I always like to point that out that clinical depression

1028
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: is is different. But depression is generally experienced when you're

1029
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: having a long term feeling of being down, feeling stuck,

1030
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: feeling highly emotionally negative, and you feel like this overwhelming

1031
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: burden that's just surrounding you, and it seems that it's consistent.

1032
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: And that's usually how people express or experience depression when

1033
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: they feel a overwhelming sense of pain and heaviness in

1034
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: their life. And that may come from failures, it may

1035
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: come from rejection, it may come from parenting, it could

1036
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: come from so many different things. And depression truly is

1037
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: something that ultimately limits you from your potential.

1038
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is.

1039
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's covering you away from what you're

1040
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: truly meant for. That's that's what when you say truly,

1041
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: like what is it? Truly, that's what it is. Truly,

1042
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: it's a covering that isn't you, that is stopping you

1043
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: from achieving your highest potential. It's real and people go

1044
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: through and that's why I'm saying that the clinical definition

1045
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: is very important and the way you deal with failure

1046
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and overcoming failure.

1047
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: For me, these are the few things that I do.

1048
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: The first thing is I study the lives of people

1049
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: I admire. There is no one that I admire that

1050
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: hasn't failed, no one, if anything, that failed.

1051
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: More.

1052
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: If you haven't read Walter Isaacson's books on Steve Jobs

1053
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: on da Vinci on Einstein read them. Those guys have

1054
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: failed so many times. If you're inspired by Novak, which

1055
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are because you follow him, he's failed

1056
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: so many times. And I can say that because I

1057
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: know he knows that, and that's what's got into where yes,

1058
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: today he's failed. There's that famous phrase of the master

1059
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: has failed more times than the student has tried. And

1060
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: that's what we have to realize in our own minds

1061
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: is that we will fail more.

1062
00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Actually, the higher.

1063
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: You go, the more you fail, because the more you

1064
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: try an experiment. So the first thing I remind myself

1065
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: is that all the people I respect have failed more

1066
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: than I've tried. There's the first thing. The second thing

1067
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: I do is I literally go, what is the feedback

1068
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: in this failure? What can I learn from this failure?

1069
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: Because this failure is a signal that I need to

1070
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: change something, that I need to learn, a new skill

1071
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: that I need to adapt.

1072
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: Failure is never just failure. It is a signal. It

1073
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: is a alert.

1074
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: It is a message to you, and often we want

1075
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: to ignore the message and just be emotional. It's important

1076
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: that we learn the message. And the third way that

1077
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: I deal with failure is I've said this to myself

1078
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: for a long time. It just makes the story better

1079
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: because one day, when you keep going and you win

1080
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: that trophy and you achieve that success and you get

1081
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: the recognition whatever you want, you tell your story and

1082
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: it will make the story better. No one wants to

1083
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: hear a story of someone who just won every stage

1084
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: in their life because it's not real. And so one

1085
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: day when you share your story in so many tough situations,

1086
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: and I used to look to my wife and I'll

1087
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: be like, this is going to make the story better

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Speaker 1: one day when I get to tell it and it

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Speaker 1: gives you that sense of confidence that you're on the

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Speaker 1: right path.

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Speaker 2: You're on the journey.

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Speaker 5: That's that's beautiful. Jay, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: And it's very clear and what you talked about last year,

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Speaker 4: the story that you get to tell, I think that's

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Speaker 4: very powerful because that relates to the purpose.

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Speaker 5: But also that.

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Speaker 4: Relates, I think to the whole set, which which you know,

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Speaker 4: I think is equally.

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Speaker 5: As important as.

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Speaker 4: Being aligned with your purpose, meaning being aligned with your

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Speaker 4: passion and doing what you truly love and that giving

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Speaker 4: your joy and that entertaining you and giving you happiness

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Speaker 4: while you're doing it, which is very important. So I

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Speaker 4: feel like in the times of failure, it's always good

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Speaker 4: to really ask yourself, why are you doing that?

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Speaker 5: Why are you even in my case, playing tennis?

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Speaker 4: What is the what what motivated you to play at

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Speaker 4: the beginning?

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Speaker 5: Why are you still playing it?

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Speaker 4: And I think when you when you, that's that's why

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Speaker 4: going back to the beginning of this conversation talking about

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Speaker 4: the importance of setting the purpose and clear with the purpose,

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Speaker 4: with intention, with the passion, with motivation. Uh, it's very

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Speaker 4: important because in these times you will have answers to

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Speaker 4: your egos questions, you know. And I think also what

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Speaker 4: is important is going back to what I said about

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Speaker 4: the short term and long term goals. It's very important

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Speaker 4: because to set your goals because of clarity of clarity

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Speaker 4: of thought, clarity of feeling, and energy, because you know

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Speaker 4: where your attention goals, energy flows right. And if you

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Speaker 4: are confused about your life, about what you're doing, why

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Speaker 4: you're doing it, you know, am I doing it for

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Speaker 4: for their motivations or the reasons that the material or

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Speaker 4: less material? It's combining the two. If you don't clear

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Speaker 4: that up yourself, no one else will. So you have

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Speaker 4: to go deep inside yourself. Understand why you're playing. When

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Speaker 4: you're playing, set your goals, give yourself clarity, and give

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Speaker 4: yourself a route that will be you know, it will

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Speaker 4: be a solid road that you will know that you're

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Speaker 4: heading this direction.

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Speaker 5: If you fail, it's.

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Speaker 4: Normal, everyone fails, but it will be easier for you

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Speaker 4: to recover once you know that your goal is there

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Speaker 4: and you're headed towards it. And the last thing I

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Speaker 4: would say is the importance of what Jay talked about

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Speaker 4: is the mentorship you know, whether it's from people that

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Speaker 4: you know or the people that you don't know, whether

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Speaker 4: your acquaintance or not. There's so many inspiring people around

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Speaker 4: the world that share their content, to share their wisdom,

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Speaker 4: share their knowledge and passion online. You have so much material,

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Speaker 4: so many books, so many you know, essays to read,

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01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 4: so many wonderful videos to see, and you just need

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Speaker 4: to You just need to first find an intention. You know,

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Speaker 4: my intention is to be clear with myself what my

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Speaker 4: goals are, what my purpose is. If I can't find it,

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Speaker 4: I'll look for inspiration. I look for people that have

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Speaker 4: found their purpose, that have gone through a huge transformation

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Speaker 4: in life, like yourself. Jay, that you know you've had

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Speaker 4: until you're eighteen nineteen one kind of life, then all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden you have a different kind of life

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Speaker 4: that got you to where you are. So these are

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Speaker 4: examples and journeys that you can learn from. So so

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Speaker 4: much so, I think environment is very important in the

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Speaker 4: times when you're when you're when you're failing, when you're depressed,

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Speaker 4: when you're not feeling good about yourself. Also question the environment.

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Speaker 4: You know, who is surrounding you, what is what is

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Speaker 4: the information that is being fed to you? Is it positive?

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Speaker 4: Is it maybe less positive? Is it encouraging you or discouraging?

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Speaker 4: Is it inspiring you or not? So much so, these

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Speaker 4: kind of things are very very important to you know,

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Speaker 4: to to have on your on your sort of say

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Speaker 4: uh daily to do list, in a way, asking yourself questions,

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Speaker 4: writing things down, and it's important there is with Shervin

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Speaker 4: and I talked about the power and energy that is

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Speaker 4: behind writing things down in your diary, taking a pen

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Speaker 4: and writing things on the paper, not only when you're

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Speaker 4: feeling great, but also when you're you know, feeling discouraged

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Speaker 4: or depressed.

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Speaker 5: And that's where you actually learn about yourself.

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Speaker 4: That's where you can go dig dig deeper and really

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Speaker 4: transform yourself, to to to to even a better version

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Speaker 4: of yourself.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Jay, I really really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: You know, I really appreciate it. I'm sorry if we

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Speaker 5: took too much of me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, don't say sorry.

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Speaker 5: I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: This same me.

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Speaker 1: Man, this is like hearing it's a conversation like this

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Speaker 1: has been such a wonderful conversation because I think we're

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Speaker 1: so aligned. We're so different in what we do, but

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Speaker 1: we're so aligned in values and in our heart, and

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Speaker 1: so when we get to talk like this and how

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Speaker 1: much we care, it's it just comes out to No, man,

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Speaker 1: don't apologize at all. This has been amazing. I loved

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Speaker 1: every second of it, and I want to do more

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Speaker 1: of this with you.

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Speaker 5: Man. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: This is amazing for sure.

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Speaker 5: What you're doing is truly inspiring.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing your wisdom with the world. Thank

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Speaker 4: you for being here with us. Thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 4: for your wife and your family. Thanks everyone. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 2: Here's a tip for your herb garden.

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Speaker 1: It may sound counterintuitive, but if you want to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of your basil plant, you need to

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Speaker 1: regularly trim its stem I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: How does removing part of the plant make it grow?

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Speaker 1: That's actually a long story, but trust me, proper pruning

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01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: is a sure fire away to ensure your basil grows

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Speaker 1: big and bushy, and the same principle can be applied

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Speaker 1: to your life. The next seven minutes are all about you,

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Speaker 1: what you focus on, and how to trim it down

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Speaker 1: so you can thrive.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ja Shetty. Welcome to the Daily Jay.

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Speaker 1: Let's begin by focusing on three centering breaths inhaling.

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Speaker 2: And exhaling, feeling your body rise now, feeling it ease,

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Speaker 2: sharpening your mind, and zeroing in on this moment. Okay,

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Speaker 2: story time. In nineteen ninety seven, Steve Jobs returned to

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Speaker 2: run Apple after a decade away from the company. What

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Speaker 2: he found was a business in disarray.

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Speaker 1: Apple had become really bureaucratic, and he kept trying to

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Speaker 1: satisfy the random whims of retailers, and so the company

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Speaker 1: was left with a ridiculously large number of product lines,

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Speaker 1: none of them were performing particularly well. As one company

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Speaker 1: executive put it, Apple made tons of products, most of

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Speaker 1: them crap done by deluded teams Jobs couldn't make sense

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Speaker 1: of it all. He found himself asking which one would

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Speaker 1: I tell my friend to buy.

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Speaker 2: Finally, he decided enough was enough.

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Speaker 1: He declared that the company was going to focus on

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Speaker 1: two types of computers, desktop and portable, with one professional

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Speaker 1: and one consumer version of each.

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Speaker 2: Four great products. That's it. The room was stunned.

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Speaker 1: For years, leadership had pushed for more product lines, not fewer,

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Speaker 1: but that approach hadn't worked at all. In the year

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Speaker 1: before Jobs took over, Apple lost more than one billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: So even though the company's board was terrified of this

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Speaker 1: new direction, they felt they had no choice but to

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Speaker 1: trust him. The result, engineers and managers suddenly became focused.

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Speaker 1: Their next desktop computer, the iMac, became the fastest selling

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Speaker 1: computer in Apple's history. A year later, they reported a

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Speaker 1: profit of over three hundred million dollars. Apple was saved,

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Speaker 1: and you know where the company went from there. I

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Speaker 1: love this story because it goes against the common mindset

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Speaker 1: that all of us need to be able to do

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Speaker 1: everything all time. It can feel like success only comes

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Speaker 1: to the overachievers, the ones who can do it all. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: society reinforces that message.

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Speaker 2: Have a side hustle, a passion project, and a viral

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Speaker 2: Instagram account to boot Now. I'm not saying you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have these things.

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Speaker 1: Some people are able to balance multiple projects at once.

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Speaker 2: Some even thrive that way.

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Speaker 1: But when you're feeling stuck or strets, thin, or simply

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Speaker 1: not your best, ask yourself, am I unfocused?

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Speaker 2: What are my product lines?

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Speaker 1: You may need to cut some things in order to

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Speaker 1: build a more stable foundation.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry.

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Speaker 1: Cutting out a project today doesn't mean it's gone forever.

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Speaker 1: Apple makes dozens of products now, many of them direct

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Speaker 1: descendants of things that were acts in that meeting. But

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Speaker 1: the company could only get to this point after sharpening

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Speaker 1: its focus. And speaking of focus, let sharpen ours now

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Speaker 1: with a short meditation, get comfortable wherever you are, relaxing

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Speaker 1: your body and releasing a little tension.

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Speaker 2: Now, bring your attention to your breath. Don't worry about

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Speaker 2: controlling your breathing, Just notice its natural rhythm. Tune in

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Speaker 2: to the flow. If your attention seems interested in following

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Speaker 2: a train of thought or latching onto a feeling, just

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Speaker 2: notice where it wants to go.

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Speaker 1: And gently rest it back on your breath, Breathing in.

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Speaker 2: And breathing out. We often forget that this present moment

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Speaker 2: can be enough if we just let it. Let's open

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Speaker 2: this up. Take a few moments to reflect on all

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Speaker 2: the various projects in your life right now. I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Work, hobbies, goals, relationships, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: You can even make a little list in your mind.

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Speaker 1: Is your quality of life or your quality of output

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Speaker 1: suffering as a result?

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Speaker 2: Are you spending time or resources on anything that doesn't

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Speaker 2: align with your mission, vision or purpose? Now ask yourself

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Speaker 2: which of these projects are essential, foundational, vital to your future?

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Speaker 2: Could you consider slashing any of those product lines.

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Speaker 1: Once you establish your foundation for success, there will always

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Speaker 1: be room to build on that foundation. But as Stephen

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Speaker 1: Covey famously said, the main thing is to keep the

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Speaker 1: main thing the main thing.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me today. I'll see you tomorrow.