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Speaker 1: Welcoming to Dagsam today. Training camp continues. This is our

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Speaker 1: seventh practice day as we enter week two or midway

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Speaker 1: through week two, i should say, at this point. But

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Speaker 1: started last week. Things are getting good as pads went

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Speaker 1: on on Monday, so we've got some real football to

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Speaker 2: Scrimmage at the stadium on Friday night. That's the countdown

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Speaker 2: to the first preseason game a week prob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're into it now. I mean it's Tuesday was

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Speaker 3: the first what I consider like real training camp practice

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Speaker 3: because they not only practicing pads, they went deep. They

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go over some of our big things

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Speaker 1: from the last week that we saw seeing at practice

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Speaker 1: so far. Big thing number one is keep it clean.

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Speaker 1: As we've mentioned, there's new offense, new defense being installed here,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of pressure being put on Trevor Lawrence Brian.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a ton about what we expect from him

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Speaker 1: this season, but so far, he's been keeping it clean

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Speaker 1: and he looks like he's an understanding of what the

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Speaker 2: Well, we heard about the test that they took when

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Speaker 2: they first reported and how well he did, and Liam

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Speaker 2: Cohen is said all through the offseason, John that Trevor

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Speaker 2: You know, you'd like to see a couple of those

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Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet, so it's not been entirely clean.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot to like from just the very

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Speaker 2: and where he's showing it when he's on the practice field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know that you need to see a

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Speaker 3: no hit the ground practice when they're going full like this,

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Speaker 3: because you can't. You sort of hope the defense makes

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Speaker 2: I don't want them to drop it either.

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Speaker 3: So it's uh. Somebody asked me yesterday, how's Trevor look?

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Speaker 3: Not spectacular, not bad? My guess is if you ask

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Speaker 3: He looks in control. He doesn't look lost to me.

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Speaker 3: If he progresses and knows what he's doing. This spectacular

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Speaker 2: We heard the center Robert Hasey after practice on Monday,

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Speaker 2: little things that you not expect to have to look for.

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Speaker 2: But we are here in his fifth season and it's

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Speaker 2: good to hear that he's doing that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to our second big thing, which is physicality.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned, the pads went on earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen weighed in on what he thought of the

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Speaker 4: I thought that the offense came out and kind of

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Speaker 4: It it was just good quality work. We put the

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Speaker 4: our first day of pads in John.

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Speaker 1: One of your favorite days of practice. They put the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you could really see it. And I

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Speaker 3: don't want to overplay it, but I thought Monday was

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Speaker 3: They're gonna hit. It felt like real football, and I

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Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised that the first live team drill was

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Speaker 1: Be, absolutely, and offensive line is a huge part of that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit more in depth

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Speaker 1: big thing today though that's missing an action. Obviously this

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Speaker 1: Patrick McCary banged up on the offensive line. Liam Cohen

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about when those people are out

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Speaker 4: Gives us an opportunity to get guys reps, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean we expect them back for the season obviously,

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Speaker 4: and so gives a great op for Jarion Jones obviously,

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Speaker 4: it just gives us ops. Yeah, it's a bummer a

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Speaker 4: always when anytime that happens, it is completely a new

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Speaker 1: So unfortunately, Buster Brown will be out for trading camp.

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Speaker 1: As mentioned some other injuries around, obviously Mason Smith starting

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Speaker 2: I saw Trey Prince early on Monday, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Whether he's ready for it or not, we're going to

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Speaker 2: find out. The one thing about injuries, John, is we

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Speaker 2: banged up. So far, nothing appears to be so serious

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Speaker 3: It's a league of attrition. But I think a positive

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Speaker 3: early has been that McCary went out. My understanding is

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Speaker 3: that Chima Adoga has played very very well in his place.

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Speaker 3: I think you're going to see during camp the after

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Speaker 3: They feel pretty deep and balanced on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how great they're going to be. They

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Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here, we got a ton

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We'relied from training camp here at the

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Speaker 1: Miller Electric Center. We're gonna go over the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and all of the changes when we come back.

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely helpful the flexibility of those guys to be

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Speaker 5: and really we have a bunch of guys who can

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Speaker 5: play different positions. It's a testament to their work and

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Speaker 5: It's not easy to go from playing on the left

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Speaker 5: that takes a lot of work, not only in the

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Speaker 5: nice for us to know. It's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: So fends a coordinator Grant Yeddinski weighing in a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving parts here at training camp. We're live outside,

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Speaker 2: Just enough inside to get the air conditioning.

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Speaker 1: It's enough. That was very crucial to this whole outside

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Speaker 1: show thing. But let's talk a little bit about you know,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about versatility. So many of these guys that

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to mention but who's a name that

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Speaker 2: Well, John talked to about him at the end of

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Speaker 2: the former first round pick to be pushed and challenged.

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Speaker 2: He did just that. He's played right tackle in Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: who is a former third round pick. Kai didn't work

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Speaker 1: Have it, hopefully to our benefit. John, When you were

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Speaker 2: If if he's anywhere close to the numbers that you

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Speaker 2: We've seen it out here that the Jaguars have long

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Speaker 3: About the one year in recent years where they've had

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Speaker 1: Have to remember he's on a one year proven deal

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Speaker 1: For me, I went to the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Leadership can sometimes get overblown. He's showing it. And for

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Speaker 2: I heard that when the team was presented with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Lewis gets his hand on the football and

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Speaker 3: we've had, what six or seven so far, at least

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Speaker 3: I almost hesitate to city. We're all talking about free agents.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to get the same sort of production

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Speaker 1: Nice this he's a mentorship from him as well. I've

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Speaker 2: I think there's something to play in the Dallas too,

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Speaker 1: We are finally back out here at training camp, excited

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Speaker 1: It always starts in the trenches, so why not start

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Speaker 3: It takes time, and you know, I think this will

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Speaker 3: I anticipated Robert Hainsey starting. I would also anticipate Anton

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Speaker 2: He's such a critical component of this offensive line, ky

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Speaker 1: Mentioned Anton Harrison, who this is his third season rookie

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Speaker 2: the first part of the whistle to the second whistle

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Speaker 2: right