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Speaker 1: From my high school team. We have five guys make

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Speaker 1: of basketball. Here are those who come before us, upon

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a special Quarantine edition. We got a

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Speaker 1: told nobody. I want to out the smoke. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another Quarantine episode of all the Smoke. Jack, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: My brother was going on our dead man? Hey, I

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Speaker 1: hope you got to good weather out there, because it's

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Speaker 1: I just got this beany u because my hair is

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Speaker 1: fucked up. I don't know what to do with it

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Speaker 1: to day. I didn't have I didn't have time to

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Speaker 1: If I had that ship you got on top of

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Speaker 1: I should just be hanging you. Just let us should

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Speaker 1: go whatever, yeah whatever, let that ship hang. Huh. Anyway, man,

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Speaker 1: let's get to him. Man, we got a special guest today. Someone.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited because he's emerged as one of the NBA's

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Speaker 1: to get to know him a little better. Man. So everybody, man, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beale, Welcome, little Brotack. What's up man, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, appreciate the time man to be with us. Sir,

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Speaker 1: How is everything man? How are you and the family

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Speaker 1: holding up? You know during this lockdown and uh pandemic

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Speaker 1: we got going on. It's crazy, man, because ship we

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Speaker 1: it's definitely I look at it as a blessing and

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Speaker 1: doing all kinds of TikTok that when you you got

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Speaker 1: need to start challenging couples. Becauld you guys, be on

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Speaker 1: Even but even with the wardrobe, even with the wardrobe,

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Speaker 1: I think me and my girl, Me and my girl

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Speaker 1: Then you guys, you guys need to challenge other couples.

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Speaker 1: Everything that I was doing in life, it was bigger

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot of variables, man, But me personally,

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Speaker 1: al Halten, But what was your experience like in Florida?

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Speaker 1: It was short. I was only there for a year,

426
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Speaker 1: but I was a nerd. That's what a lot of

427
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Speaker 1: people don't know. Uh. I was smart to say my

428
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Speaker 1: major was biology premit, so I was on the way

429
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: to be a doctor. Like that was that was my bird. Yeah,

430
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: that's what That's a lot of people don't know. I

431
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: was at four point though. That was I was. I

432
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: was a geek, that was But it was it was short, man,

433
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: it was short. We the hoops season was great. I

434
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: was definitely on the fence about coming back for my

435
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: sophomore year, but coach Donovan eventually just kind of gave

436
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Speaker 1: me the kick out. He was like, he said, you

437
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Speaker 1: have a chance to be top three in the draft.

438
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Speaker 1: He was like, I can't. I can't hold you back

439
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: from that kept real, which he kept, he kept real.

440
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Speaker 1: And that's why that's why I since day one. Oh,

441
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Speaker 1: that's why chosen because he told me from day one,

442
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: he said, you're not gonna he said, I don't guarantee

443
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna start. I don't guarantee you a lot of

444
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: playing time. I don't guarantee you the ball. He's like,

445
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: but I do guarantee that you will work hard, be

446
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Speaker 1: a better man, and get better every day. And I said,

447
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: that's where I want to go. M hm. I mean

448
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: you went there for sec freshman of the year average

449
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: nearly fifteen, went to the lead it, and then it

450
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: was time to take your talents to the league. Huh,

451
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: trying to get about it. There, it's time ago, it's

452
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Speaker 1: time to go. What are your thoughts on one and done?

453
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: You know we've seen recently Jayden Green jumped to the

454
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: G League, Isaiah Todd jumped to the G League. Um,

455
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: you know the NBA. I'm sure within the next few

456
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: years is gonna open it back up so guys can

457
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: jump straight to the NBA. But how important you feel

458
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: like college that when your college was to your success

459
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: and being drafted number three in the game. It's tough, bro,

460
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: because I feel like if you're talented enough and the

461
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: league knows it and you know, the scouts north and

462
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: then you should go um. You know, especially with the

463
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Speaker 1: way the n C Double A is now, like I

464
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: feel like they're holding a lot of kids back, you know, um.

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that, a lot of kids

466
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Speaker 1: basically go to a lot of them are wanting done

467
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Speaker 1: and so college. In a way, I feel like it

468
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Speaker 1: was beneficial for me. But at the same time, I

469
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Speaker 1: do think there's been official game in the G League.

470
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Speaker 1: You know, you get you get the experience, you get

471
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Speaker 1: the NBA experience, you know, you get coached under that

472
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Speaker 1: type of that type of chemistry atmosphere, and then on

473
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Speaker 1: top of that, you get a little change in your

474
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Speaker 1: pocket with that. Granted you ain't getting millions in the

475
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Speaker 1: G League, but it's enough to enough to enough for

476
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Speaker 1: a kid who nineteen years old at that time, I think,

477
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Speaker 1: and go either way. I really hope at the end

478
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Speaker 1: of the day, the NBA kind of grab hold of

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Speaker 1: the ultimate decision, um, because I think the the n

480
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Speaker 1: C Double A kind of is just a little it's

481
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Speaker 1: a little too corrupt for me. And uh and the

482
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Speaker 1: college coaches at that too. You know, it's like, what

483
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Speaker 1: is your like, what is your game like? What is

484
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Speaker 1: your what are your motives with the kids? You know

485
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of them more money in

486
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Speaker 1: they pocket, a lot of them want to keep your

487
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Speaker 1: kids for four years and you know, to get that

488
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Speaker 1: prestige of the school or whatever. But it's like, what

489
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Speaker 1: is what are the real motives behind the coaches there

490
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: versus you know, in the league, it's it's nothing but

491
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: pure development. You know, it's it's either you get better

492
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: or you don't have no job. Period. Yeah, you eat,

493
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: you eat what you kill. You recently joke with Tatum

494
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Speaker 1: on r G Live last week about you know this,

495
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Speaker 1: this very conversation. He said he still might have gone

496
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Speaker 1: the duke, and you made a joke like they must

497
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Speaker 1: have been paying you know, they must have been paying

498
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Speaker 1: you six undergrad. You guys went back and forth on

499
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Speaker 1: that talk to us a little bit about that. That's

500
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Speaker 1: what's funny. That's just Jason, my brother man. I don't

501
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: think they gave him a dollar here. He not like that,

502
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Speaker 1: He wouldn't he. I don't think they game a dollar.

503
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Speaker 1: His mom wouldn't his mom, Damn sure, ain't going forward.

504
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: So uh, it's all It's all love and I love everybody.

505
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Speaker 1: A duke to coach K know what it is almost

506
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Speaker 1: I know he's still he tells me to this day,

507
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: he's still mad at me for not going. So it's

508
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: it's number love with them. But it happens. You know,

509
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: we see it, We see it out there, so yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. It is. But to me,

511
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Speaker 1: I just think that the NT double A is almost

512
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: driving kids away with their outdated policies, you know what

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like you don't make it beneficial at all

514
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Speaker 1: to really come to college. You know, like you said

515
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Speaker 1: that the longer you stay in college these days, you

516
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: know that, the lower your draft stock drops. So you know,

517
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Speaker 1: it's almost like with their old, outdated rules, I think

518
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Speaker 1: college is going to be a thing of the past

519
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: for the top players here on out. Yeah, it has

520
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: to be. That's why the league gotta grab hold of

521
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: it because just like you said, as young as you know,

522
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: the league looks at younger guys every year, every year.

523
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Speaker 1: And there's something I always try to tell my au kids. Man,

524
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Speaker 1: every you know, the draft is thirty guys guaranteed, you know,

525
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: and you know you got another thirty who could possibly

526
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Speaker 1: make the team. So and then on top of there's

527
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: only four hundred and fifty of us total in the league,

528
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, so calculate how many guys are just shifting

529
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: and in and out of the league every year, you know,

530
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: So on top of the guys who are hungry coming

531
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Speaker 1: up from the league, on top of for the guys

532
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: who have been pros some fifteen sixteen overseas, like, it's

533
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot, man, And that's why it's a true grind.

534
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: You gotta respect everybody in the league, respect every opponent,

535
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: and really grinded out. Two thousand twelve, your drafted number three,

536
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: A d goes one, you go three, Damn Lillard goes six,

537
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: uh Drumming goes nine, Draymond Green goes thirty five. You

538
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: got any memorable moments of you know, the draft or

539
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: your rookie orientation, any of that kind of stuff. My

540
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: draft night was crazy. For one, it was my birthday,

541
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Speaker 1: so that was the best day on birthday ever. Came

542
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: a millionaire on your birthdays, just her nineteen, So that

543
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: was boom. That was That was love for me. And

544
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: then on top of that, the whole night, I kind

545
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: of had a feeling I was either going to go

546
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Speaker 1: two or three. We knew A D was going one,

547
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Speaker 1: so I didn't knew I was going to Charlotte at

548
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: Washington and so but when we're sitting in the draft room,

549
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Speaker 1: sure enough, my agent tapping me, was like, it's possible

550
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: you might go to Okay, seem that's that's it. I said, Damn,

551
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: how am I gonna go there? I ain't even work

552
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: out for Okay. See, I only worked out for three teams,

553
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, So I'm like Washington, Cleveland and uh and Charlotte.

554
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's hard and still it's when hard. That's

555
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: when Harden was still in Okay. See. So the deal

556
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: was to trade James to Washington, right, Okay, see gets

557
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: the third pick. No, it was either the second or

558
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: third pick. They were going to trade up to two

559
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: or three. Get me trade James to Washington for you,

560
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: then for me, and then that's when like that it

561
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: could have been in there, okay see with Katie and Russell,

562
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: I mean obviously hardness who was hard? But yeah, a

563
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: dead spot up shoof. That would have been fun. That

564
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: would have been crazy. I love hearing stories like that

565
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: because nobody knows that kind of ship, you know, I

566
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: mean nobody knows that you were im was traded for

567
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Harden on draft deck. That was like, that was last

568
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: minute decision. Really, it was almost it was almost done. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 1: what was your welcome to the What was your welcome

570
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: to the NBA moment? Was it that or was it

571
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: something else? Hell? No, it was my first exhibition game.

572
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: It was funny because my first expibially game was in

573
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, so I had my family. I'm at the

574
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: career basically, and it was against the Miami Heat Lebron

575
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: d Wade and Damn Chris bosch Off winning the championship. Nice. Man,

576
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm growing up watching these cats, you know. So I'm

577
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a Lebron family d Wade fan. I'm a I'm like, damn,

578
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: come out here with these guys. Let me see what

579
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: this boom dum dum dum pump fact file. I'm like, man,

580
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: they got every vet move, welcome book, welcome I said, yeah,

581
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I got when to go for show. But outside of that,

582
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: after that, being your first taste in the preseason, once

583
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Speaker 1: the season hit, what was like your one moment, like, okay, shot,

584
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Speaker 1: I'm here now. Mm hmmm. It was tough because I

585
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't remember ship from my rookie year because

586
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 1: it was that bad. Like we were bad. It was.

587
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: It was horrible. We were bad. Like John didn't play.

588
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I knew it, and I knew John was out like

589
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: the first thirty games him and name. So I was like,

590
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: I remember, I was thrown into the fire. So I

591
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: was pretty much a deer in the head likes and

592
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I just the only thing I knew was that I

593
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: had good vets. I had my O G. Sampasll with

594
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: me and he was and he was basically molding me.

595
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: So it was. It was rough. It was rough. My

596
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: rookie year was tough. Shout out to saying my funk

597
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: was saying, it's a good dude. Right. A lot of

598
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: people don't know that you and John were close before

599
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: you even got drafted. Tell us that that relationship developed.

600
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: So John. I knew John in high school. Uh, he

601
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: was in college about to get about it or we

602
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: wanted doing. Uh. So we basically met my last year

603
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: playing a U ball in my junior year and uh

604
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: he came out to l A where we were playing

605
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: and watch me play watch other guys playing here. We

606
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: exchanged numbers and we've been cool since then, and it

607
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: was amazing. Two years later here I am Bloom drafted

608
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: to the Washington Wizards, and so it was I mean,

609
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: we just kind of took off from there. He was

610
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: always been a big brother figure to me, and you know,

611
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: we've it's been the same since then. You know, we've

612
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: just constantly grown, we've both matured, and you know, it's

613
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: it's that's my big brother man still to this day.

614
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we all we all know, y'all relationship, you know,

615
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: and we know how to owe the media try to

616
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: twist things on the outside looking in. But tell me,

617
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts on the media. What you think

618
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: was the worst bullshit? Had a big bullshit headline that

619
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: he said about you and uh you and John Wall.

620
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: The one that everybody keeps saying is that we don't

621
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: like each other. M hmmm. I think that's the one

622
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: that that pissed both of us off because for so

623
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: long we were both young and immature that we let

624
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: the media stirred up to where it kind of both

625
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: affected us like it affected me. I was like, well,

626
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: damn it is he really thinking like that, and it's

627
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: like he's like, damn, would just be really feel like that?

628
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: And so it was like a slight it was like

629
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: a silent tension. It was like but then it came

630
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: to a punch. It was like, well, let's nip this

631
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: ship in the book, like because like we never had

632
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: any beef. It was nothing that he did that provoked

633
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: me or that I didn't like and vice versas. So

634
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: it was like we really just broke. We just had

635
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: a We just had a man of manners, like, bro,

636
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: you got a problem with me. You know, you got

637
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: a problem with me? You know. So it is what

638
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: it is like lead the media, like let the mothers

639
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: do what they do, like leave it, leave that out there.

640
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna rock the way we rocked. And

641
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: we just both understood that hill. We both needed each

642
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: other to grow, you we both needed each other to

643
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: win and you know, help this organization be what it

644
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: needs to be. Said the same thing we had him

645
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: on the show. He was like, man, you know that's

646
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: my boy. Like they say that bothered him too, because

647
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: he's like there's nobody that he would want to go

648
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: to wall with more than You's nobody that he wanted

649
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: to be on the outside him more than you, and

650
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: he hate what people on the outside try to twist that.

651
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: But he said, he said, the same as you said.

652
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Y'all know your relationship and that's all that really matters.

653
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: So you know, I said, we already knew that from

654
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. I think what people get misconstrued

655
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: to is the fact that we both like kind of

656
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: alpha dogs and so like, like we both want to

657
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: take to the shie at the end of the game.

658
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: Like that's just that's just who we are. Like, and

659
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: guess what, I wouldn't want nobody else to take it

660
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: but him if I'm not taking it so right, that's

661
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: just you know, that's just that's just our mindset. And

662
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we both understood that, and we used

663
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: that to fuel each other, like like in a confident

664
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: way to where it's like, man, it's gonna be, it's

665
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna be, It's gonna be so beautiful when you come back,

666
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: because now I'm in the space and mentally and my

667
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: game is where it wasn't like when he was at

668
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: his all star level, Like it's I'm excited for it

669
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: for sure. Well that's why, you know, I think myself

670
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: and Jack were so critical on outside media because we

671
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: are part of the media now technically, but they don't

672
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: realize and fans don't realize how powerful fake bullshit is,

673
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And because we know chemistry

674
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. And like you said, I

675
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: think it was amazing you touched on that there was

676
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: a silent tension like the bullshit had you guys question

677
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: each other when you guys are funk with each other

678
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: from the whole time, you know what I mean. So

679
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: that's why I'm so critical when I see bullshit. I'm

680
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: an call bullshit. Jack is the same way, because like,

681
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: don't start that bullshit because you in there trying to

682
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: funk a whole locker room pup off off something that's

683
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: not even true, right, And we've had that plenty of times,

684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: tis times to count, straight up. He told us a

685
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: story about how, you know, when his mom passed, you

686
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: drove with it four hours down to you, you know,

687
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: out of the blue. He didn't ask you too, you

688
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: just did out of the kindness of your heart, you

689
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He said that really struck a accord,

690
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: and he really knew how down you were for him.

691
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: So when you hear the integral details that you give

692
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: us that he gives us, and then here the narrative

693
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: that they're trying to push. Man, it botherses the funk

694
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: out a lot of people who really know what's going on,

695
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: as they ever told you that because he made it

696
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: clear to us like that meant the world to him,

697
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Brod for that he hasn't and a lot of other

698
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: people have definitely told me, like the people around him

699
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: have told me the impact that he that has had

700
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: on him. And and it's it's amazing, bro because I've

701
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: never seen that side of him, and God forbid I

702
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: ever see that side of him again, like still to

703
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: this day, Like I don't. I don't know how he

704
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: do it. You know, his pops passed when he was younger.

705
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, he was basically the man in the house

706
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: when he was a kid on till now and now

707
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: his best friend is gonna. And when that happened, it

708
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: was crazy because we were actually flying to Charlotte to

709
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: play Charlotte that he said, and they live in Raleigh,

710
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: and as soon as we landed, bro, he got the

711
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: news and it was like they were blowing my phone up,

712
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: like wherever you at wet. You gotta go find him.

713
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: We don't know what he's not answering. I'm like, damn, okay, boom,

714
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: where you at, bro I'm in the room. I go

715
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: in the room. It's just man, it's ship everywhere. Like

716
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: it looked like a tornado hit the room. And I

717
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: could do number hug him and just hold him and

718
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: just just just keep them cool. Because Dog lost his

719
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: best friend. Man, like I cann'tly imagine. I said, Man,

720
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: after this game tomorrow, right, I'm gonna go ride down

721
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: with you, like she was in the hospital of the night.

722
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: I went down there, We rode down, stayed the night,

723
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: came back up the next day and played. But that

724
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: I know Dog was hurt. Man, I'm happy. I I

725
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: honestly don't think anybody else being there with it help. Right.

726
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: We had a similar situation. That's how Jack. You know,

727
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Jack and I were already teammates when it happened with

728
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: my mom. My mom died and Jack was the first

729
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: one to pull up on me and like it it's something.

730
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: It tripped me out because the story was so similar

731
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: to how you were there for him, and at the

732
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: same where the reason why Jack and I were more

733
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: than teammates, more than friends, like we're brothers for that moment,

734
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, like you said, there's

735
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: no one else that could have feeled that boyd at

736
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: that time beside you and besides Jack, you know what

737
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: I mean. So I mean for myself and you know

738
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: John's already thank you guys, But that ship is tough, man. Obviously,

739
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: losing your mom, losing your best friend is nothing you

740
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: wish on nobody. But when there was someone there to

741
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: really hold you down, that really cared and it's genuine

742
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: like it, it hits different. So we definitely appreciate that, man,

743
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: no doubt. So so, uh, you agreed to a two

744
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: year extension uh in in in October um and to

745
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: to kind of keep your you know, your freedom, your destiny,

746
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: your control in your own hands. Speak to us a

747
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: little bit about how you approach your your your extension

748
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: and then you're thinking on that. I came down to

749
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: damn that the deadline of my decision, um, because I'm

750
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm anna. I've kind of played Devil's advocate. Like the

751
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: whole year it was I'm wearing pros and cons of

752
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, stand or leaving, you know, signing and not signing,

753
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, do I wait and try to sign this summer,

754
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: or do I wait and trying to get traded? Like

755
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: do I wait and you know, play my contract out?

756
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: And so I had a bunch of options. And for

757
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: me it was I secured, what two more years of

758
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: I have two more years here? So well three And

759
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: so for me it was like that puts me to me,

760
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna hit my problem into them

761
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: with thirty and so I feel like that at the

762
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: end of this extension, it puts me right there. And

763
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: so it kind of puts me in the prime time

764
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: of my basketball and so it leaves me it still

765
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: gives me the flexibility with also giving my respects and

766
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: loyalty to the organization the drafted me. So I'm still

767
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: giving you all an opportunity here to make it work

768
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: with John, to make it work with everybody, you know.

769
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: So here we go. We got a couple more years,

770
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and granted I think my extension is the length of

771
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: John's contract as well. So you know, we got this

772
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: is this is the time we got. So you know,

773
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what we can do, and you know

774
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna make it work. You spoke on it though

775
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: you've reached you know, super not supers used stuperstar status

776
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: with who you know, you're one of the best guards

777
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: in the game, hands down, and like you said, your

778
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: game has, you know, really developed. When John went down

779
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: almost how it was forced to you know, I mean,

780
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: like you said, you you felt like he was an MJ.

781
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: You know, when he lost Pip and vice versa. Now

782
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: with it coming him coming back and we talked to

783
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: him and how excited he is. He says his explosion

784
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: is back. He said, he's really ready to put on

785
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: the show. A lot of people said, you guys can't

786
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: coexist like like like you mentioned earlier, because you guys

787
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: are to Alpha's you know, you guys both need the

788
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: ball in your hands. What do you say to all

789
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: those people now that your game is at an all

790
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: star level. Obviously he's coming back from a off injury,

791
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: but he's going to get back to that level. What

792
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: do you think that you know, obviously the process of

793
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: that is going to be Like, I think it's gonna

794
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: be smooth, and I think it would be easy because

795
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: one we both are mature, like mentally, I feel like

796
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: me to three years ago, and like watching it. It's

797
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: funny because there's a team right now. We have a

798
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: young team, and so right now during the quarantine, we

799
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: meet every week and watch our playoff series from a

800
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: few years ago just to get just to get guy

801
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: some experience and learn, just to see the the great

802
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: and grind of it, just to see the adjustments made

803
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: and things like that on the fly. And so who

804
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: leads that, not to cut you off? Who leads that

805
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: you lead that? No, our team does. So our coaches,

806
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: I believe our player development coaches put it together. But

807
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: he definitely got John and os permission. So basically we

808
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: hop around from zoom to zoom and uh and give

809
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: input on the series. So uh, it's amazing to watch.

810
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: And I hate watching it because I'm like, I am

811
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: fucking trash. I don't we all got that. I'm watching it,

812
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you hesitating on your shots? Why

813
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: you ain't shooting? Why you ain't passed right there? Why

814
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: you ain't understands? Like, it's just like, man, that dude

815
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: three or four years ago, it's not who are like,

816
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: it's not me today? And I know that for sure,

817
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: and I just know that looking at John at his

818
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: level that he was playing that and I know the

819
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: level that which he can come back and be at it.

820
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Two on top of where I've grown, I think it's

821
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a picture perfect obviously. Yeah, I love when

822
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: you say you're a completely different player when I don't

823
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: think what the outside fan understands is obviously you your

824
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: your skill. Love us grown, But more it's mentally. It's

825
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: mentally understanding the game. People don't understand like you coming

826
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: too the game. You you know you could do your

827
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: thing like inside right now is doing this thing I say,

828
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: you don't learn how to play NBA basketball to like

829
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: your Some maybe people like third year, but fourth, fifth,

830
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: six years when you really got a mental understanding, like okay,

831
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: my my my athleticism has improved, my physical skills improved,

832
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: but the most important thing that has improved is my

833
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: mindset in my approach. Talk to us a little bit

834
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: about that. I feel like that was the biggest adjustment

835
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: I made in year five and six from when I

836
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: signed my extension and year five. My jump from year

837
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: six to year seven was when I was with an

838
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: all start year six. So you know you're saying, yeah,

839
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: you're six, So for me, it was that whole summer

840
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: was change your mental like be a killer, be a dog,

841
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: like go be who you were in high school and college,

842
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: like don't be so passive, and like, you know, make

843
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: your make you make your statement, like go be you.

844
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: And so in a lot I tell every I tell

845
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: people all the time like, honestly, yes, I work on

846
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: my game, but I'm confident as ill like I honestly

847
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: feel like nobody can guard me. I feel like you

848
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: can't be I feel like I can shut you down,

849
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: like I have that unlike the utmost confidence in myself,

850
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: And so feel like that carries my game to a

851
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: whole another level because if I feel like I can

852
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: do it, I'm gonna go out there and do it.

853
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: What has it been like stepping into the leader role now?

854
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm assuming John was the leader before. I don't want

855
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: to miss speak because I wasn't in that locker room.

856
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: But you're definitely since him going down. You know, you

857
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: said he was your big brother, So I figured that,

858
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: what has it been like for you to step up

859
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: and take and take a more vocal role in that

860
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: locker room. It's not easy. It's not easy. I would

861
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: say we both had had that that footprint. You know,

862
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: granted he's the head of the snake, being the point guard, uh,

863
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: being our franchise guy, like he's he is our vocal leader,

864
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: and uh, it was tough. Not half of him basically

865
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: a year and a half. He missed a little bit

866
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: of the year before too, And so with that, it

867
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: was like I understood how difficult his job was of

868
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: playing point guard and having to get guys the ball,

869
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: and having to tell guys where to go, and how

870
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: to encourage his teammates when shots are falling, you know,

871
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: and and how to keep guys engaged in the game,

872
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: how to keep guys you know who rookies who go

873
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: back and forth to the G League, and how to

874
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: keep them engaged, keep them confident, you know, when their

875
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: opportunities might not be in front of them. So it's

876
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: it's a lot to juggle. It's a lot to balance,

877
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: and I feel like the biggest thing for me is

878
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: being able to listen, being able to accept criticism back,

879
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: and understanding who you're talking to, how you're talking to them,

880
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: how they like to be talked to. But it's it was,

881
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: it was a lot, and it's a lot for one

882
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: person to really to really balance by himself. But it's

883
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: definitely helpful that we have a group of guys who

884
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: are willing to learn and uh and who want to

885
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: win and work hard, like you can't beat that. I

886
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: think you hit on a great point. I remember Matthew

887
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: Johnson told me one time. Uh, you know, you can't

888
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: talk and treat everyone in the same way. You know,

889
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: you gotta know your players. You know, to be a leader,

890
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: you have to understand how to talk, how to speak

891
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: and to everyone cause everyone is different, how to be

892
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: able to push button. So now that you have that

893
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: fool like, you're that guy right now. So when joh

894
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: It comes back and you said it's a tough job

895
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: for one person to do, you know what I mean.

896
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: So now it's gonna be a much more calming presence

897
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: in the locker room now because you know what it's

898
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: like to be that head A one leader, and you're

899
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: getting another A one leader back. So now you guys

900
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: can really balance off each other and really take control

901
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: of that locker room. I think that's gonna be special. Yeah,

902
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: it'd be great. I think at the end of the day,

903
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: it got me out of my comfort zone and forced

904
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: me to be kind of more vocal, kind of be

905
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: firm because I'm more of a laid back, like I'll

906
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: come put you to the side every now and then

907
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: unless i'm really piste off, and then I'll get on you.

908
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: But John's the opposite. John W. Barker is your ass

909
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: and and and talk to you afterwards like and you know,

910
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: and and so I feel like that yang and yang

911
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: between us is what we need. Like, you know, you're

912
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna have balance of what you need to be. You know,

913
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: it's a good balance. You're gonna have that time what

914
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: you need to be chewed out, and you're gonna have

915
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: the time what you need to be paid on the back.

916
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: But I think having having both of those are essential,

917
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, and being able to accept both is essential

918
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: to what was happened between you and you you come

919
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: into where you're the leader of the team. Now it's

920
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: obviously worked. You have it thirty points now for for

921
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: for for rebound, six assists. I think putting you in

922
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: that role it's been beneficial for you because not only

923
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: you already had the confidence, but being this role now

924
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just showed everybody that you can play,

925
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 1: but it's showing the guys on your team. Okay, now,

926
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: now when John get back, we can come into our own.

927
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Now we've got our two stars that can take us

928
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: to the next level. How you feel now that and

929
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: what and what really snapped to you to from going

930
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: to the season you had last year to now averaging

931
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: thirty points. So the answer the last one what snapped

932
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: for me is I asked my trainer, I work out

933
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: with Drew Hamlen. I asked Drew about three summers ago,

934
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I said, do you think I got average thirty in

935
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: the league? And we sat there and we were like,

936
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: with where my game was. It was like, it's possible,

937
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: but it's a it's a lot of stuff that you

938
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: gotta do better and add to your game in order

939
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: for you to do it. And so for me, it

940
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: was shooting more threes, shooting off the dribble more after three,

941
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: and get into the free throw line, and so seeing

942
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: all them things, and basically over the last course of

943
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: the last three years, that's all I've been asking my game.

944
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: It's been threes, get into the line, finishing, making my

945
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: damn free throws, and and just constantly growing. And then

946
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: before I knew it, I was at thirty and it was,

947
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and it didn't feel like it was a stringent. And

948
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: then it didn't feel didn't feel strenuous every night like

949
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: it felt like in Rhythm thirties, Like I didn't have

950
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: to go out and be forceful and back o man,

951
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: I got a force and go get third. Yeah, I

952
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: got everything in rhythm like it was just an actually

953
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: flow for me to go get. It's in your package,

954
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: it's the full package. That's dope, man. It's been beautiful

955
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: to see. Like I said, I I caught you, you know,

956
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: going towards the end of my career, Jack, same thing

957
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: we caught you toward the end. But to see your

958
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: steady like you're someone who you could see the steady improvement,

959
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: steady improvement to where you are now, you know, And

960
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: it's obviously hats off to your hard worker effort, your

961
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: your mental approach, to to your trainer, but it's it's

962
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: beautiful to see because you're you're a perfect picture of

963
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, steady growth and becoming the start you've become today.

964
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: So I think that's dope to see and dope to

965
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: watch as a fan. Man, I have to. I have

966
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: to because I look at James Harden, I look at Dame,

967
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: I look at Clay, I look at I look at

968
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: everybody to play my position, and it's like they're getting

969
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: better every year. They're adding something to their game, and

970
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: it's either you get with the program or you get

971
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: left behind facts period. You know what I'm saying. And

972
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna lead. I feel like I

973
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: can compete. I feel like I'm one of those guys.

974
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: And but you can't talk it. You gotta you gotta

975
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: do it, and it can't be spurts of it. It's

976
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: got to be on a consistent basis or the consistent

977
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: basis with efficiency. And so that's that's been my drive

978
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: over the last few years and just been especially this year.

979
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: It's just been really focused in on how I play,

980
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, and honestly, I'm not an analytical guy,

981
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: so I say, after analytics and just go yeah, as

982
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: you should. Last February, you became the first player since

983
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Kobe in two thousand and seven to have fifty point

984
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: games back to back days. You scored a hundred and

985
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: four points. Excuse me, a hundred eight points in twenty four.

986
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Tell me what that was like, because that's incredible. That's incredible.

987
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: To even have to say, right, that's but you know

988
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: what's crazy. I remember I hear all y'all. You know,

989
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: I hear all the O g s talk all the time. Stack, Man,

990
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I hear all y'all talk. And then I heard T

991
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Mac talking te Max said Bill should have been had

992
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: a fifty point game right now, and I was, man, hey,

993
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: MC been taking a lot of jabs at me in

994
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: my career. Man, I was like, damn Mac. And so

995
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, say no more. And sure enough,

996
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I just knew I was due for fifty piece. I

997
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: was due for one. I would have nice, I don't

998
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: have forty seven, forty six, forty eight, And I'm like, damn,

999
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: it's two free throws. That's another jump. And it's like

1000
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: I just started getting hungry. And then when I was

1001
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: on the CUSP, granted, the only thing I hate about

1002
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: the fifty point is we lost both games, lost both

1003
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: of them. Joints really don't hold weight. But like I

1004
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: was in the zone that, man, I don't I really

1005
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: can't even explain it. Fellis like fifty like that, I

1006
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: just went, you gotta explain it to us because we

1007
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, we don't know nothing. About fifty point,

1008
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: So you gotta explain. I ain't touched, says high school.

1009
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that feeling like. I ain't

1010
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: never going in my life. It was just being, like

1011
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: I said before, having that mental confidence myself of being

1012
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 1: the best player on the floor, being confident in my game.

1013
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: It was one quote that Michael Jordan's said, they're resignated

1014
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: with me throughout the year or two. He said, I

1015
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: don't fear anybody because I trust my work that I

1016
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: put the work in. Like I put the work. I

1017
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: put the work in like on a daily basis, I

1018
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: see myself. I know how hard I worked, I know

1019
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: how good I am. Like, what do you what do

1020
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: you to fear? What is theres nothing? Absolutely nothing? Tell

1021
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: me is this urban legendar? Is that true? Did you

1022
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: get drug tested after those after you went back to

1023
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: back fifties? Yeah? I did, And they have to call

1024
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: them random drug tests. Get the league. I love, y'all, man,

1025
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: but come on, mans, we know these tests and random man, y'all,

1026
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: y'all y'a targeting people? Man? Straight? Uh, if Jack dropped

1027
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: back to back fifty points, you better believe come testing.

1028
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what you're gonna finding that in

1029
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: that p to a whole lot of trees. I love it.

1030
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know if that was because

1031
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you actually said it. But that's dope. No, yeah,

1032
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: he not the first though. Some other guys on the

1033
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: test us after games now crazy. Yeah, I heard that

1034
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: insane right after the game. You got thirty minutes here

1035
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: we need that. I just sweated athing out. I just yeah,

1036
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Let me tell you, Brad, when we

1037
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: was in there smoking and that ship had to happen,

1038
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: like having to come up clean on the spot when

1039
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: you know you smoked before the game ain't easy. But

1040
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: I did it. He's a magician, bro, Just just just

1041
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: know that he's a magician. Yeah. I used to get

1042
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: out two thou eighteen and two thousand nineteen All Star, right,

1043
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: but you got snubbed you and you were you were

1044
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: real vocal by it. I mean snub snub just an understatement.

1045
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: You should have made it a lot before a lot

1046
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: of those guys, but you were a real vocal about it,

1047
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: and I would and I would be too. I feel

1048
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: like I missed a couple of All Star games because

1049
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: of nonsense. But you just flat out missed it off.

1050
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Hate tell me your thoughts about that, Joe, don't know

1051
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: why that true. Granted we weren't We weren't winning games,

1052
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: so I would feel like that's the only thing that

1053
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: you can really plan on me, Like, but what is

1054
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: the All Star Game? Like stars? You know, like it

1055
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: was my perspective of it. It was like, what is

1056
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: the All Star Game? What is this all NBA team? Like?

1057
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: What are those accolades? Like those all individual accolades, those

1058
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: aren't team based acculades. And so yeah, I felt I

1059
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: felt disrespected. You know, I felt beyond disrespected, you know,

1060
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: because granted, we know the fans are gonna do what

1061
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: they do. You know, fans don't they got their their

1062
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: voting percentages. We love the fans, they're going to vote

1063
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: the way they vote, but the media and the coaches,

1064
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: like I felt like that was beyond disrespectful and a

1065
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: lot of the way I was playing to a lot

1066
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: of them. Damn coaches, because all the starters are going

1067
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: to be off the fans. We ain't getting more votes

1068
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: in honest, I know that when I ain't even looking

1069
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: for them votes. But I think as as the coaches,

1070
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: I think we I think y'all shall know because I'm

1071
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: kicking your ass every night, so exactly like I feel

1072
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: like in that regard, Like, yeah, I feel like I

1073
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: should be respected, and especially when the players voted me

1074
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: to start in the game. That's what I had me

1075
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: mind blown, Like the players voted me to start in

1076
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: the game, and I don't even make the game. But

1077
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't make no sense that you know that. Let

1078
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: you know, they got a whole bunch of people making

1079
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: those decisions and making those votes, control of those votes

1080
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: that never played basketball. They got kicked off their baseball team,

1081
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: so now they want to come vote on basketball and

1082
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: ship Like they're like, I hate that ship because it

1083
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: don't make no sense. How could the players? How could

1084
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: the players who play the goddamn game vote you as

1085
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: a starter, but you don't. I don't make no sense.

1086
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm first team of common sense, Matt. I'm first team

1087
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: on common sense. I didn't make no star games, but

1088
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm first team all common sense. You know what I'm saying.

1089
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: That ship didn't make no sense at all. Thought zero

1090
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: zero zero. You're trying to wrap my head around it.

1091
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't get it, but hey, I'm gonna keep working,

1092
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: keep working. So you have a classic meme now over

1093
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: four million views from a fan walking to the tunnel

1094
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: that said you suck and the motherfucking face you made

1095
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: to that fan like all you wanted, but you just

1096
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: wanted my attention. Just say, what's up, Brad? Is something

1097
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: that you suck in the face you made talk to

1098
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: us about that ship. It was funny, dog, because you

1099
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: know how hard it is playing Denver. You know you'd

1100
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: be up to thirty seconds. So we won the game,

1101
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: and we was hyped as ill, and so I had

1102
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: about thirty five and so I'm running back into the

1103
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: locker room. Geek. All of a sudden, I'm slapping hands Bill,

1104
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: you suck. Come on, man, you serious? I said, you

1105
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: just watched the same game I just watched. Ain't the

1106
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: way you can believe that. I ain't what you can

1107
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: believe that you don't believe that ship. That's what fans

1108
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: will say anything just to get somebody's attention, know it.

1109
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 1: God damn well, they don't believe. I mean me and Jack,

1110
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: and you know they didn't throw a motherfucking poster at

1111
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Jack's face, and you tadder at one time we was

1112
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs that Jack got arrested for some ship and

1113
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: they had Jack and the motherfucking jail outfit just to

1114
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, obviously just to get just to get his attention.

1115
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: But I think that kind of stuff, Like I tell

1116
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: people when I played, like I enjoyed interacting with the

1117
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: fans and even while we play, because it just makes

1118
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: it ship so much more special. I mean that that

1119
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: fan is gonna remember that ship for the rest of

1120
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: his life. You know, Jack is cool with the dude

1121
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: that made the sign, you know, ship thirteen years ago.

1122
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of experiences that make our game

1123
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: so dope because it's it's other sports don't really get

1124
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: a chance to do that. Yeah, a lot of people,

1125
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know. It's a lot of

1126
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: these fans be feeling a lot of these streaks. Guys

1127
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: be going on on the when they'd be getting hot.

1128
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: So talking talking to players like that pits players often

1129
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: they start going on the little streak and they pointed

1130
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: to but like, it's your fault, your your team just

1131
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: got That's fine, it's your fault. What's the craziest what's

1132
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: the craziest road crowd? You feel like you've played, uh

1133
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: in the arena craziest travel are like hectic fans or

1134
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: both if there's both. We all know Utah hectic like

1135
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: they just man, you got some stories about Utah. Yeah

1136
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I don't know if it's like that. Ain't

1137
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: no place like Hill. Well, I mean, one thing about

1138
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: Utah is not only okay. One one, you have the

1139
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: fans that just someone racist or something, just die hard

1140
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Utah fans. But then you can't breathe it a motherfucker

1141
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: the first minute, the first quarter. That's another thing. You

1142
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: gotta talk trash. You gotta hear them talk trash. Then

1143
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to get in shape in the first quarter

1144
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: because you can't breathe. Right there, it's a double whammy

1145
00:58:53,840 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: double Why step back, and you got remember to lick

1146
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: your lips because I remember used to play with them thisies.

1147
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: She used to look like how the I said, how

1148
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: the fund did Jack sneak a powder? Done it in

1149
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: on the court? Cotton mouth and the hydra. He used

1150
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: to be cotting out first quarter of cotton. My mouth drives, yeah, dog,

1151
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: all them switches, all the switches though, the mother said

1152
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: the mouthpiece used to be stuck to the side of

1153
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: his lip like yo, bro just go so, have someone

1154
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: sprayed some water somewhere in this area or licked them

1155
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: up that Jackie used to go through it up there? Boy,

1156
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: that was your favorite, Like, hey, that was your favorite line?

1157
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: What was thing? Just walked by him? I just walked

1158
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: by him, victim bitches lick them somewhere on the court. Hey,

1159
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: Jack licked them ditches because that motherfucker's list would get

1160
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: so dry during it. I'm thinking, like with y'all, TV,

1161
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: I don't want people talking about my man like that.

1162
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: So I could break up any kind of hectic situation

1163
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: with Jack when I tell Jack Jack just licked them

1164
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: bitches real quick. Any any favorite playoff memories up to

1165
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: this point. You guys have some with you know, with

1166
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Paul hitting game winners and against the Southeast, a gainst

1167
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: the Raptors calves. Anything that really stands out to you.

1168
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: The whole Boston series. We need to call the TV

1169
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: today and just tell him to play the whole damn series.

1170
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 1: That was a great series. Man. We had I see

1171
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: on that team this year, and so that's all we

1172
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: were talking about, just that series and just how crazy

1173
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: it was. He gave us fifty games too. That was

1174
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: right after right after his sister passed, Like, yeah, that

1175
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: was that was a tough time too, that was tough.

1176
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: He got out there and got it. He got out

1177
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: there and got it done. I tell me the difference

1178
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: between Paul as a teammate and playing against him. Man,

1179
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: when I first played against Pete Peers, he was in Brooklyn,

1180
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: I thought Paul was the most arrogant asshole I've ever basketball,

1181
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: the most talk ridiculous to you. I'm at the free

1182
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: throw line, he on the bench standing up. I don't

1183
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: see it. I don't know why they dressed. You know,

1184
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I'm me and free throw. Look

1185
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: the fuck I knocked down my shots. Boom boom finished

1186
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: the game. I knew we played them. Two weeks later,

1187
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: I dunked his ass. I remember, he's okay, okay, it

1188
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: isn't enough. The next year he was on that team,

1189
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: and then he was the most amazing teammate, the best,

1190
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn, Like that's a true sign

1191
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: of like a winner. Like the guys he with you're

1192
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: rocking with. You don't on the other team who you are,

1193
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: but give him fuming with my guys who we got

1194
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: and I respected and watching them watching them night in

1195
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: the night out. Still I don't even remember where a

1196
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: year it was, from sixteen whatever, first one in the gym,

1197
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: last one I leave. Still doing his routines every day

1198
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: is band work, he lifted, He's still doing everything every

1199
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: single day like it was clock. They don't realize how

1200
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: shout out pp Man. People don't realize how good he was.

1201
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: Hey talked to us a little bit about the Hall

1202
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: of Fame class going in. Obviously Kobe, like we said,

1203
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Timmy kg All could be the the

1204
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: greatest Hall of Fame inductee class we've seen. Do you

1205
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: have any personal stories but any any any three of

1206
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: those guys, any one of them, one one. You can't

1207
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: argue none of them. And it's asked me if it

1208
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: comes out of your mouth otherwise you know. Um. It

1209
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: was the same with KG because KG was on the

1210
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: Brooklyn team and so he was talking crazy right along

1211
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: way Paul, so I got some of that action too.

1212
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: I got some of that actions from him too, but

1213
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: I was I was more so more I was always

1214
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: cool knowing who KG was because Sam always told me

1215
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: about him when I was younger in the league. When

1216
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Sam we used to play with him in Minnesota, then

1217
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: with the Boston and played it was like he used

1218
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: to tell me everything about how he carried himself as

1219
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: a pro off the floor, Like just just everything about

1220
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: him was just great. And the fact that he was

1221
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,479
Speaker 1: a dog. I feel like him and Dunking the best

1222
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: two best power forwards probably ever play like you can't

1223
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: argue that. I think it's amazing that they both get

1224
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: to get in there at the same time. That's that's

1225
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: dope to see. They came in together. And Sam Duncan

1226
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: is always a damn one thing. I remember that shout

1227
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: off to glass. I never clockwork. Clockworks still jab jab

1228
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: jump off the glass. That's whatever you needed. Hey, I

1229
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: was watching NBA TV yesterday. I happened to see it

1230
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: and it was when I was with the Clippers game seven.

1231
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: He was thirty six years old. We had not they

1232
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: had won the championship year before. We locked him out

1233
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: in the first round. But Timmy was going to work.

1234
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: But you could tell he was at the end because

1235
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: you know how when you get older, Jack, you know,

1236
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: like when you take contact, you're falling all the time,

1237
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like just you know, you

1238
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: fall out a lot more Timmy was killing, but that

1239
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: motherucker probably hit the ground about thirteen times in that game,

1240
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: but he was still killing. I think he was thirty

1241
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: six or thirty seven. We got lucky and beat there.

1242
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: Not luck we ended up beating him, but it was

1243
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: amazing to see just he was still him until the

1244
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: very end. It was beautiful. And I say that I

1245
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: say that for Kobe. I say Kobe was one of

1246
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: still one of the hardest guys I've ever had to

1247
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: car late in his career, no question, because he remember

1248
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: when I played him, he shot the ball about forty

1249
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: damn times. But it was amazing just to see, like

1250
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: his craft, that's the same song, like he still had

1251
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: he still had the footwork, his pump, fake work. Look

1252
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: look how many points he scored his last game. I mean,

1253
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot right there. He had a ratchet,

1254
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: I tell you along That's that's why I tell peoplehen

1255
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: they asked me who the hardest for me to guard

1256
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: was him? Because like you said, it was the footwork,

1257
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: it was the skill work he had. And then you're

1258
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: knowing that when he takes that one or two dribbles

1259
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: to the baseline, right, he's gonna shot fake you, but

1260
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: you still fucking jump because he'll shot fake you seven

1261
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: times because he's not gonna pass, you know what I mean.

1262
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: Like if he gets in that move, he'll shot fake

1263
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: you until you jump and foul him. And it was

1264
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: just like, God, damn cold. That is crazy, bro, you

1265
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: know it's crazy. Have you heard him? I heard him?

1266
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: You heard him hiss before? Huh? Yeah, that's that's when

1267
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: you have the ball. So crazy. Yeah. So it's my

1268
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: first game playing against him. He's on the wing. I

1269
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: think I want to say Sasha had the ball all

1270
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, All of a sudden, it is said,

1271
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: all right, that's and all of a sudden the balls

1272
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: in his hand. I said, oh my god, that's all

1273
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: you gotta do to get the ball. Yo. It don't

1274
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: matter how loud the arena is. Your mama noise that

1275
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. Don't matter how loud the

1276
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: arena is, you're gonna hear that motherfucking hissing. The ball

1277
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: better be in his hands and like the next three

1278
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: or five seconds and if you have if you have

1279
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: the nerve, if you have the nerve to shoot and

1280
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: miss with after he hisses, go back on film and

1281
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: just watch Cooke's face. If if that motherfucker hisses and

1282
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: you take a shot and miss, he might look at

1283
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: you crazy if you make that bitch. But if you miss,

1284
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm if looks he killed boy, you'd be struck dead

1285
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: on the court. That used to crack me up? Man. Uh.

1286
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: Top five duos of all time. Don't be afraid to

1287
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: throw you in John in there if you think duo's

1288
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: um hmmm, I like um. I like Penny and Shock,

1289
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: of course, how can you doe? I like Penny Shack,

1290
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: Kobe Shack. I don't know if you used I don't

1291
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 1: know if you used Shack twice, you can't. You can. Yeah,

1292
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: he's that motherfucking good. That's the other stage. Yeah uh yeah,

1293
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: m hmm. Let me see. Yeah, that's what that's too.

1294
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: I like I like I like the I like the

1295
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm a old I'm an old head almost so I

1296
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: like to watch. I'm trying to think it's some old

1297
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: heads duds. I like it. I like du Mars and

1298
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: Thomas mm hmm. People don't remember that GP and Camp

1299
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. Stock him alone, Stock alone, It's a lot,

1300
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: I would say, Mike Pierre, Kobe Shack, t mac I

1301
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: mean not too mad. Penny Tenures in shack. Yeah, there's

1302
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 1: d way Lebron, there's Stephie Clay, There's Katie and Russ.

1303
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: There's Katie and Staff. There's do what was out there?

1304
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: Damn wait? And then when you put it like that,

1305
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's that ship was fire and ice,

1306
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: fire and ice. That's you got a seven foot out

1307
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing. There's six m three people

1308
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: sleep on that. Tim Duncan and David Robinson forgot about

1309
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: call or or Tony and Tim ship. No no, no, no, no, no,

1310
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: no no, because you don't like to do that. One

1311
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: of the best to no, no, no. Tony Parker was

1312
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: not he was, hey, hey, listen and just look at

1313
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: two thoughs when we won the championship. He didn't finish

1314
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: none of them games. Tony Parker didn't finish speedy class

1315
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: in that defense because Smart Barry was killing him. All

1316
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: the point guards was killing him. He was I mean

1317
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: he was only he was only twenty at the time.

1318
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: He let let the man develop a little bit. I

1319
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: mean men noban it was young too, but she was

1320
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: cut from a different clock. You came from the States.

1321
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 1: You came from the street. You came from chewing concrete.

1322
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 1: I would have had another ship. He would have passed

1323
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: me the ball. Dog if you're the passing ball. We

1324
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 1: had nothing. Chill look at the ok okay, see game,

1325
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: just imagine something. The next something be motherfucker. You gets

1326
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: you hit six pays in the row and then motherucker

1327
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: started looking you off and again in the Western Conference

1328
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: game six to close it out. What you gonna think?

1329
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Hold on, but not me when he I'm in the

1330
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: locker room, everybody in the in the locker room looking

1331
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: at them crazy, and even I get I ain't gonna

1332
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: say the coach name, but the coach come sit by, boys, man.

1333
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: The coach comes sit between me and Tim Ducking to say,

1334
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: y'all did everything y'all could. Somebody tried to be a hero.

1335
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: But I ain't gonna say who said that? Uh so

1336
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: so that so that story is why we can't. We

1337
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 1: can't say I had six of them bad boys. You

1338
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: gotta swing that. You gotta swing that. Yeah, if I

1339
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: just made one, you gotta swing. That's all I'm saying, man,

1340
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. The toughest player you had to

1341
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: battle with today, though, thank today. Yeah, Clay, James Harden,

1342
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: anybody at your position, the toughest player. It's always, it's

1343
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: really good battles between him to James and Clay always yeah, always,

1344
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: Like I get I get joy out of that because

1345
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting their best at least with Clay.

1346
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna go at each other. Y'all gonna go at

1347
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 1: each other. James ain't gonna go out, but you and

1348
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: Clay you're gonna go out each other. But even for me,

1349
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: like that's a challenge of Guarden James, like because at

1350
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: the same time, like I study him, so I know

1351
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: I know a lot of his stuff. I put some

1352
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: of his his package into mine too, Like uh, like

1353
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: I ain't know shameing my game, Like I know I

1354
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: know talent in game when I see it, and I

1355
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: pay respects to it. And James got game and for

1356
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: sure he's in him and looking at his footwork, looking

1357
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: at the like how he get his shots off, looking

1358
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: at how he draw files like that, and it's because

1359
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: like he's a game changer. Like I honestly feel like

1360
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: we don't have the game. We wouldn't have the game

1361
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: we have today if it wasn't for James because he

1362
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: draws files so much like you see, that's all damn

1363
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: the NBA is today. Yeah, he didn't master that. He

1364
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: mastered that ship. But him Clay, Like I know Clay

1365
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: is gonna be a hard nosed defender. He's gonna be

1366
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 1: tough at hell trying to chase around on the other

1367
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: end of the floor. I love going against Avery Bradley

1368
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: and Marcus Smart because they don't they're gonna be passed

1369
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: on defense, Like they're gonna file the ship out of me.

1370
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna take the balls sometimes and I know that

1371
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like that challenges me to get better,

1372
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that. I love that type of competition,

1373
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: m because they're gonna bring it. They dogs. Yeah, is

1374
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: it true that? Uh? Taking you back a little bit,

1375
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: Nelly used to walk you to school when he was Jim.

1376
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: How did that come about? Son? So he went to

1377
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: University City High School and that's fere my mom Tom

1378
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: So that's the it's the same, it's the city. So

1379
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: that's where I grew up. That's where Jason grew up.

1380
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: Let's hate them as when he grew up, Nelly grew up.

1381
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: The whole sat lunatics. They all we all from U City.

1382
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: So my mom taught all the same lunatics in high school.

1383
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: And once they went on they know path the glory

1384
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: and fame, and they would come back every now and

1385
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: then to the school and stay with up to everybody

1386
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: and be around in the city. And my elementary school

1387
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: was literally a hundred feet across the street from the

1388
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: high school, and so every now and then, like he

1389
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: would popping and walking me across the street. He was like,

1390
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: it was like you were stomping in your air force

1391
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: last you were stomping at your airports. Once you know

1392
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: you had over there over herd over. It's crazy. We

1393
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: got we got, we got some strong yards. But people

1394
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: don't realize, man, because I think people forget how influential

1395
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: Nellie was to music when he was on top. You mean,

1396
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: what did Jay say, the only only niggas move moving

1397
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: units is in Pimp Pimp Juice and us. Like it was.

1398
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: Nellie was at the top of the charts back then,

1399
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: really putting on for St. Louis Man. He changed the

1400
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: game for a long time. Definitely shout out to Nellie.

1401
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. They're kind of pay

1402
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: the way for a lot of cuts. Man, he did

1403
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: a of a lot of them. He had kids wearing

1404
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: bad days on their face to the concert with no cuts.

1405
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: They have no cut with the dud rag with the

1406
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: head band on top. Who would you like to see

1407
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: as a guest on our show? Now, before you ask

1408
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: this question, if you say somebody, you have a plug

1409
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: that that we can get him on the show. You

1410
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: we got to use your plug. So who would you

1411
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: like to see as a guest on our show? Because

1412
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: we asked John this question, and that's how we got you.

1413
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: I would either say Jay, say them we got him,

1414
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: we got him today. Let me's see you got damn

1415
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: damn would be good, damn liar, damn liar. Yeah, good

1416
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: call most underrated player in the NBA besides yourself. Yeah,

1417
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: I think as good as you are, I still think

1418
01:14:55,400 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: you're underrated. Yeah, I would say everybody. I don't think

1419
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: he underrated. But Drew everybody everybody said that. Every players

1420
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: said Holiday, we gotta get Drew on here, we gotta

1421
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: get him on the show. When I tell you, like

1422
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: of people we asked that say Drew Holiday is fucking crazy.

1423
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: It's not even it's not even funny. How talented he is,

1424
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: like on both ends and the floor. Yeah, he just

1425
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 1: don't say nothing playing with the most swag? What player

1426
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: has the most swag? It's tough because everybody kind of

1427
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: got like an ego, Like everybody got yeah they all.

1428
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: I think Bronze is I think everybody like notices Bronze. Yeah.

1429
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: I think Steph stepping away like in his little celebration,

1430
01:15:54,479 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: in his little step way stuff trying to kiss you off,

1431
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: like stuff like you do. Uh uh? What are you

1432
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: currently binge? Watching black List? Oh? That's my show and

1433
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: there's so many shows. I gotta catch up, but I

1434
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: think I'm on like season three. I love black Lists? Yeah,

1435
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: actually have black List is a good show man, good call.

1436
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: Favorite quarantine, snack while you quarantine and what you what

1437
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: you're snacking on? What ain't not snacking on? Right? My

1438
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: go to is soft chocolate cookies. Someone else just said

1439
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: that the other day, to fresh out the oven or

1440
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: just a soft package like chips. Ahoy, you don't even matter,

1441
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, that's the only requirement. Favorite retro Jersey

1442
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: I would say the old Raptors joints m M with

1443
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: the dinosaur on it. That's a classic court side seat

1444
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: at any game in history. Which game would it be

1445
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: and who would it be? You know what's funny is hell,

1446
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: I would have watched. My agents just sent it to

1447
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: me yesterday. He was like, watch this game on YouTube.

1448
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: It was Michael Jordan's. We just watched it last week,

1449
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan in the garden when he had six mm hmmmm,

1450
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: epic epic game. You imagine being courtsided that she would

1451
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: have been dope. Yeah, all right, man, Well that hey Brad.

1452
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, man, thank you for spending it

1453
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: with us. Best to lux you and your family. Stay safe, man,

1454
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: and we're looking forward to seeing you and John get

1455
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: back together. To Man. I appreciate you all boys now,

1456
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: we appreciate you a little bro. Man, appreciate everything. Thank you. Man.

1457
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: Hey man, that's a rap uh special Quarantine edition with

1458
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: our special guest, Bradley Beal. We thank him for its time. Jack,

1459
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: great show. You can test this on Showtime, Basketball, YouTube

1460
01:17:48,200 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: or all platforms, streaming, podcasts, all of them. It's something

1461
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: about how this place forms a different kind of person.

1462
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: On my high school team, we have five guys make

1463
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: the NBA. We had the County Rocky. You mentioned Princes County.

1464
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: People know it's about It's the mecca of basketball. There

1465
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: are those who come before us, upon whose shoulders we

1466
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: staying here for this area. You have to have tough skin,

1467
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: and the gym became the sanctuary. E G County guys

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