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Speaker 1: Novel.

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Speaker 2: This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.

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Speaker 3: You have been warned.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though. Listen to him right now, on.

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Speaker 3: Him if he was fucking on fire, the piston.

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Speaker 1: Him just for my enjoyment, not his, and I'd make

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Speaker 1: sure that I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow

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Speaker 1: piss me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a savage.

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Speaker 5: Are you bored of modern dating?

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Speaker 2: Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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Speaker 2: same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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Speaker 2: house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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Speaker 2: time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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Speaker 2: It's time to start looking for love in all the

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Speaker 2: wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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Speaker 2: picking people who were the total opposite of my type.

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Speaker 2: And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,

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Speaker 2: will I find that special someone or well, this experiment

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Speaker 2: proved that I should just give up on dating altogether.

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Speaker 2: It's time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this

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Speaker 2: is twenty eight dates.

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Speaker 1: Later, Dan, Dan, every single of these podcasts is going

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Speaker 1: to be you going.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Dan, How was your weekend?

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Speaker 4: I had maybe one of the best in the club kiss.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, it was actually really hot.

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Speaker 3: Wow. So what makes like an inn the club kiss

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Speaker 3: like so hot?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I've got a people and it's like I've been

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Speaker 1: in a car wash and it's full face saliva disgusting.

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Speaker 1: But then sometimes you get someone because you don't expect

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Speaker 1: it to be great necessarily because you're learning how to

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Speaker 1: kiss that person in the instant.

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Speaker 4: Where were you? I was at a gay bar. Shot horror,

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Speaker 4: don't tell my dad.

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Speaker 3: In the club.

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Speaker 4: In the gay club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was just this man there and the kiss

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Speaker 1: kind of happened because we ran out of things to say.

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Speaker 4: The absolutly dried up.

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Speaker 3: How long had you spoken before?

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Speaker 4: Two minutes?

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Speaker 5: Perfect?

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Speaker 1: Because also, like you just want to get in there,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, Also, only wanted was a.

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Speaker 5: Kiss, But also who talks in the club.

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Speaker 3: That's disgusting, I know.

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Speaker 1: And also the thing is that there was quite a

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Speaker 1: big heighth difference, so like, firstly, I can't hear what

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Speaker 5: He was seven one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was taller than me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was like he was small, okay, But so

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Speaker 1: like when we made out, it was a little bit

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Speaker 1: like a giraffe eating grass. That was like the imagery,

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Speaker 1: but the kiss was so nice and like we both

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Speaker 1: like got of each other and then like pulled away

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Speaker 1: and we're like, wow, that was really great.

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Speaker 5: Congratinations.

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Speaker 2: We've got a boyfriend, her husband. Well, I had sex

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Speaker 2: on the weekend, right, and then, now.

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Speaker 4: Don't make me out whoa, Oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, No, that's not even what the story is about.

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Speaker 2: I had Oh my god, shut up. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking now, I had sex on the weekend. And

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Speaker 2: then it's really weird because it was good sex. It's

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Speaker 2: not like I haven't had sex with ages I had.

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Speaker 2: I've been having like fine sex, but this was like

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Speaker 2: quite exceptional sex.

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Speaker 4: What made it better?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It was just like really good sex, like like it

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Speaker 2: was just like we obviously really fancy each other words,

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Speaker 2: and it was just like fun.

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Speaker 3: Anyways.

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Speaker 2: And then yesterday, the day after having had sex, I

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Speaker 2: have just gotten so much attention from them, Like both

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Speaker 2: like two people that I used to day contacted me yesterday,

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Speaker 2: like one out of the blue, haven't spiked him for

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Speaker 2: five months, just sent me like an insane video of

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Speaker 2: him wanking.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: Out of the blue, just out of the.

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Speaker 2: Blue, and then no, yeah, oh yeah, it's mad. No,

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Speaker 2: it's so weird. It's like sex person, Like, no.

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Speaker 1: One ever send me a video of you randomly wanking.

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Speaker 1: I really don't want you to send that to me

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Speaker 1: at dan dot.

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Speaker 4: Why don't do it?

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Speaker 2: Then I was on the overgrown yesterday I got chaps

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Speaker 2: three times, and then today I also got three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, on the overground. Yeah, you're going from one end

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Speaker 2: I was only going from West Hampton to Gospel, which

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Speaker 2: is full stops.

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Speaker 5: How mental is that?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So for all about international listeners, which I know there

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Speaker 1: are many, chirps is basically where you're like chatting someone up,

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Speaker 1: like you're caught in them, like you floating.

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Speaker 4: Them in a bar or something.

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Speaker 2: It's just like an English slanguage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Don't know what it is. It's like an energy thing.

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Speaker 2: And it's also it's also yeah no I do pheromo,

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Speaker 2: Yeah I do.

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Speaker 3: But people always say.

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Speaker 4: That, who said that?

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Speaker 2: I once, right, when I once had some really good sex,

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Speaker 2: like top notch sex, and then no, it's because so

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Speaker 2: much sex I have is like so bang, average have.

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Speaker 4: Differentiate, honestly, So this very.

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Speaker 2: Top notch sex and then this guy was staring at me,

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Speaker 2: and then I was like, okay, like you're just staring

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Speaker 2: really wanted to come over and smell you because you

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Speaker 2: look like you smell like sex.

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Speaker 1: What the fuck kind of people are you hanging out with?

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Speaker 1: That's like, that's like a creepy version of the woman.

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Speaker 3: That's honestly thought it was so.

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Speaker 5: And then I had sex with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really.

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Speaker 4: Sorry if someone came over and was like, can I

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Speaker 4: hoff your golf?

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Speaker 3: He wasn't saying my vagina.

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Speaker 2: He was saying, you give off like sex vibes, is

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Speaker 4: Wait, can I tell you what I smell like after sex?

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Speaker 4: Not good?

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking for yourself, I am.

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Speaker 1: And all of the gay community, none of us smell good.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's like a sexy smell like during sex.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking legitimately about smell.

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Speaker 2: You're slightly missing it here, So let's let's slow.

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Speaker 4: Down down, Like, can I smell you?

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Speaker 2: Because I think he said he said, he didn't say

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Speaker 2: I want to smell you. I said, why are you

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Speaker 2: look at me? He was like, you look like you

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Speaker 2: smell like sex. And what he meant by that you

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Speaker 2: look like you're a slut basically is what he meant.

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Speaker 2: I was really flatter. I mean that is kind of

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Speaker 2: and then yeah, he turned to and only was like,

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Speaker 2: what do I look like? I smell like he goes

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Speaker 2: tean crumbs.

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Speaker 4: Which some people is also a smell of set.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this guy, right, I matched with him on Field,

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Speaker 2: which is the app that essentially puts like your sexual

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Speaker 2: desires and interests are sort of like on a par

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Speaker 2: with like your also your other interests, Like it'll be

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Speaker 2: like I'm into fisting and fishing, do you know? And

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Speaker 2: on his profile, he looked like a Tory okay, which

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Speaker 2: if you're listening in America, is like a Republican, but

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Speaker 2: like with a lot of more weird backstory. Basic yeah,

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Speaker 2: fox catching, fox.

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Speaker 5: Hunting, Yeah if you incests, yeah, incess.

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Speaker 2: So I thought maybe we'd clash on that because he

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Speaker 2: was going to be a Tory.

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Speaker 5: But I wasn't even a toy.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those people who doesn't even engage

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Speaker 2: in politics, which is worse than being a Tory in

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Speaker 2: So I think we just get straight into it because

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Speaker 4: Who sounds terrible.

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Speaker 5: What do you do for a job?

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Speaker 6: I am in the Devil's game of recruitment. Really just

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Speaker 6: get paid to lie a lot. So I get to

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Speaker 6: finish between five and sort of half six. They're not

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Speaker 6: going to train jiu jitsu for two hours and be

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Speaker 6: done about half eight and a lot of cook So

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Speaker 6: you've got half around the evening to Monday to Friday.

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Speaker 6: Where are your offices in the city, right, Okay, So

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Speaker 6: it's like a seven minute cycle for my live four minutes.

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Speaker 1: So I, yeah, I don't know if I'm ever going

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Speaker 4: I have to hear that. Clear.

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Speaker 1: Can we bring in his book of records and see

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Speaker 1: how many times someone said jujitsu in one sentence?

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Speaker 4: So I think we've got a new record.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that was so jarring about this guy,

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Speaker 2: which is j yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing that was

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Speaker 2: so jarring about him was how much you referred to

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Speaker 2: being doing philosophy. Right, So when we did get into

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Speaker 2: like like beefs. He would always bring him back to

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Speaker 2: what I did philosophy at university, like which just doesn't

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Speaker 2: make any sense. And also like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: be like sound like really vapid, but like if you

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Speaker 2: need to fall back on philosophy like loads to like

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Speaker 2: justify yourself or to like form conversations and fundamentally like

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Speaker 2: you're a bad person.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just how busy his day is, Like what

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Speaker 2: So he had this like crazy robot schedule and so

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Speaker 2: I was just like, well, surely, like you don't even

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Speaker 2: have time to date, Like why are you on dating

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Speaker 2: eat and even well it's like.

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Speaker 1: If you if you want to spend two hours a

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Speaker 1: day doing jiu jitsu, when am I coming?

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Speaker 6: That's literally why I'm here because I broke up with

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Speaker 6: my girlfriends and I used to never see her. And

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Speaker 6: I was like all I do is have such a

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Speaker 6: fixed life, right, Okay, you some weird stuff. So this

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Speaker 6: is what's interesting. I was going to buy this field app, which.

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Speaker 5: Is right mad and how long have you been on it?

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Speaker 4: Four weeks?

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Speaker 6: And I've had three people asked to whee on me?

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Speaker 6: What does that mean like to actually piss on me.

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Speaker 5: Oh, we.

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Speaker 6: Wheel me, No, we urinate on top of me.

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Speaker 2: Actually on plas like when you're with them or has

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Speaker 2: that been on the app?

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Speaker 6: So first messages?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Can I on you?

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Speaker 4: Is that your cup of tea? I've been on Field

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Speaker 4: and is absolutely mud.

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Speaker 1: It's mud Field the app is absolutely mud.

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Speaker 3: He's the kind of person who's ruining Field.

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Speaker 1: Okay, looking at his profile, it's screaming Tory, but it's

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Speaker 1: also screaming like Billabong model.

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Speaker 3: But it's like Field is mad, But.

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Speaker 6: Do you find that you mirror guys you date on

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I know some people have some people I have definitely,

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Speaker 2: But do you know who Alison Camber is?

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Speaker 6: I've heard the name. I don't get into I've had

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Speaker 6: done a philosophy degree. I don't get into politics at

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Speaker 5: It's not really a low level.

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Speaker 6: It's that came across wrong. I apologize. I like the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's because you did a philosophy.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't take that from my personal opinion, which

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Speaker 6: I think there's world powers and stuff going on which

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Speaker 2: It's all just I don't want it's not because actually

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Speaker 6: He had a Cambridge analytica. He's in the movie Brexit

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Speaker 5: Look at Brexit.

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Speaker 2: If more people had voted Remain, it wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 2: It was a very close margin, came to conno the

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Speaker 6: I was traveling in Thailand against Spangled.

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Speaker 2: He is so daring, My worst kind of person in

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Speaker 4: He's not saying anything.

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Speaker 3: He's saying nothing.

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Speaker 2: He's so ill informed, but uses like philosophy but you

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, he's the kind of guy that gets a guitar

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear wonder wall.

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Speaker 2: He told me that he doesn't vote and that it's

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, because also, like what kind of upbringing have

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Speaker 3: Well that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's like the most like insane privilege to be like

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Speaker 2: I've never voted.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If he engaged in the world a bit more, he

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you can't just sit in a conversation and

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Speaker 3: Time with a lamp post.

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Speaker 5: And anyway.

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Speaker 6: I guess it depends on what your attraction points are,

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Speaker 4: In the world.

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Speaker 5: Do you only get with women?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I have enough. Like like, obviously,

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Speaker 6: being a philosophy student, I've not thought about men in

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Speaker 5: Adele in public in part of the people that's in

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Speaker 5: one of the parts. That's nice. I'm sure that was

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Speaker 6: If you have sixty blokes coming to buy ten points

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Speaker 2: But that's very much sounding like the sort of like

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Speaker 6: I know quite a lot of the Bully boys.

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Speaker 5: So let's not refer to them as the bully boys.

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Speaker 5: That's very it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I know him. I lost my

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Speaker 4: Whole.

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Speaker 3: No, can we just talk about him saying the bully boys?

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Speaker 4: What are the bully Boys?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Bullingdon Club is a very elitist group of

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Speaker 3: I guess it's like a fraternity.

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Speaker 2: And the concept of the Bullingdon Club is the most

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Speaker 2: privileged men in English society, British society, and they like

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Speaker 2: go to say a pub, and what they will do,

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Speaker 2: is they will intentionally fuck up the pub, physically assault

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Speaker 2: at the end at them to be like, fuck you,

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Speaker 2: we've just fucked up your whole place, but we're so

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the way he talks, he's the person

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he's trying to make you buy shares

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Speaker 4: Do what I mean?

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Speaker 3: No, he's worse than that.

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Speaker 2: He's like the kind of person who's obsessed with status

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Speaker 2: but will pretend he isn't, so he's like escape going

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what was his relevance for him saying that

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Speaker 3: he's a philosopher in that.

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Speaker 2: I'm a philosopher, so I can understand why people want

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Speaker 1: But it's like, baby, like, you're just saying the title

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Speaker 1: You just repeatedly saying the title of the chapter, just philosophy, philosophy.

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Speaker 4: Saying anything.

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Speaker 2: He struck me as like a pound shop ex member

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Speaker 3: So he wasn't quite it where Like in a way

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Speaker 2: Have at least rather be on a date with someone

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Speaker 2: like a raging argument about it. I couldn't even argue

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Speaker 2: with him because he was so ignorant. I think I

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Speaker 2: I really solidified my contempt for this man. He had

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Speaker 4: We've all watched the Crown.

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Speaker 3: Then I like brought it back up.

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Speaker 2: And was like, so tell me about the time that

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Speaker 6: A friend of university who very wealthy, got invited to

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Speaker 6: a twenty first got to dress up as a terrorist

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Speaker 6: in blackface with the goats, which you could you did that?

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Speaker 6: A lot of people could that.

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Speaker 5: Did you do that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 6: No. Everywhere I was saying blackface, I'd say more or

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Speaker 6: less that it was Middle East and between pastis everyone

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is awful.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is bad.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, obviously, Like this is what this is exactly what

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Speaker 6: So how do you deal with confrontation in your relationships?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm really well, is it in the sense

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Speaker 6: of you think you're right and the argument's based on

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Speaker 6: went to, you have strong opinions on that, and this

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Speaker 2: That is because I'm right on that, Like it is

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Speaker 2: offensive to dress up as a terrorist as a white person. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I understand that that's just a black and white like

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Speaker 5: You can see where the line is there.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a ridiculous move from him, but exactly so

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Speaker 6: I agree it was.

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Speaker 5: Then whenever, that was when you were twenty one.

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Speaker 6: So what I mean is like before, in the days

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Speaker 6: a witch.

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Speaker 5: Exactly I would do it.

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Speaker 6: You're normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like I guess like back in like the

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Speaker 1: you're a witch. And I guess like nowadays, if you

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Speaker 1: go into black face and go to a party, you

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Speaker 1: are a racist. Yeah yeah, to all in trouble, what

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Speaker 1: kind of comparison?

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Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: It was like quite mind boggling. I was just like,

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Speaker 3: you're saying so many.

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Speaker 2: Words, but you're not making any sense.

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Speaker 1: Baby, Like It's like, what kind of brain do you

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Speaker 1: have to have for someone to be like, I think

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Speaker 1: you're a racist and you'd go But there were witches once.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what though, listen to him right now.

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Speaker 3: On him if he was fucking on fire him just.

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Speaker 1: For my enjoyment, not his, And I'd make sure that

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Speaker 1: I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow piss, that

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Speaker 1: real stale bar no like four day bender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you've been drinking, kid.

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Speaker 1: That baby a frosty Jack's piss streaming streaming upon him.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm fully erect.

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Speaker 6: Any group. Background will choose the group. They are similar

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Speaker 6: to the safety like rugby boys that you said. Once

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Speaker 6: you get a big group of people together and they

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Speaker 6: create an identity, they have a way of behavior. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: a bunch of rugby lads, all individually nice guys come together,

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Speaker 6: they want to drink, piss and get they can do something.

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Speaker 6: So you learn a behavior through similar people together.

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Speaker 5: That's not biology, Ben, Would you not say this.

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Speaker 6: Or say that is because the bill is.

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Speaker 2: The environment that you've been in where something like that

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Speaker 6: But the biology pieces the human being and their brain

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Speaker 6: coming to know because not.

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Speaker 5: All rugby white boys end up doing it.

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Speaker 6: Don't be aggressive.

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Speaker 5: I'm not really aggressive.

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Speaker 6: I came across aggressive.

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Speaker 2: That's offensive because I have an opinion.

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Speaker 5: I'm being aggressive. I'm just sat here calmly.

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Speaker 6: Your voice dictates aggression.

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Speaker 4: Do you have bullied at school?

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Speaker 6: And that's the quite a personal question, the opposite, you're

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Speaker 6: want to see how you think. I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 6: out how you think you're attractive another honest one, how

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Speaker 6: you think that's it?

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Speaker 4: But he's not trying to figure out how you think.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to, like silence, how you think he's trying

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Speaker 1: to make you think how he thinks, which is drm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just couldn't handle that. I wasn't agreeing with him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're being aggressive.

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Speaker 2: No, it is mad because when you listen to my

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Speaker 2: tone hasn't even changed like I'm being I'm talking in

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Speaker 2: exactly the tone the voice that I talk him the

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Speaker 2: whole time.

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Speaker 1: Also, I think the most important thing we need to

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Speaker 1: try and analyze in this is how many.

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Speaker 4: Rugby boys is he fucked? No? I know he's constantly.

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Speaker 1: Being like just like rugby boys hanging out, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting naked, shucking dick and stuff, you know, just like

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Speaker 1: a coxshole.

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Speaker 4: You know what it is like? So many ale? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we get it. Honestly but truly.

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Speaker 1: No, but like such an insufferable man's no honestly the

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Speaker 1: word like do what he is he's like the bad

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Speaker 1: guy in like Bridget Jones, the bad character in like

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Speaker 1: a rom com.

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Speaker 4: Like he's like, it's like someone's written the script.

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Speaker 2: He just ticked the box for like every kind of

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Speaker 2: or like posh.

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Speaker 3: White Englishman behavior.

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Speaker 2: Like he was really like one of the worst people

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Speaker 2: that I've like sat opposite in a date.

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Speaker 5: Environment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, also I love him. You'd be like, that's not biologing.

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Speaker 1: He's like, is it not?

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Speaker 4: Is it not?

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Speaker 2: Like it's environment He's basically saying that's why people are racist.

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Speaker 3: I would say, whether it was.

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Speaker 2: Part of the podcast or not, probably the worst date

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Speaker 2: I've ever been on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I was on this date personally, I

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Speaker 1: would be like, where's Ashton Kutcher because I'm being punk.

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Speaker 3: And I wish Ashton Kutcher had.

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Speaker 4: Come face all over over. He's so fit man.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say the fittest on the podcast Ashton.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 4: This is a call out to Ashton's people. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: Dan again.

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Speaker 2: It's Sam for the A. I've got the restraining order.

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Speaker 2: I know if he's the retraining order fell out of

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Speaker 2: his pocket earlier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but actually in the restraining order it doesn't say

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Speaker 1: that I can't contact him via podcast, So this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: No, You're right.

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Speaker 2: It was it was like, yeah, so I think. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've been on dates before. I once when on a

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Speaker 2: date with a guy who told me he didn't vote

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Speaker 2: in the EU referendum, and then when I said why

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Speaker 2: didn't you vote, he said, because I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: vote next year. And that was one of the worst

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Speaker 2: dates I've ever been on and I left after ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: But this was definitely worse than that, because this guy.

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Speaker 5: Kieran was just.

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Speaker 3: There was everything was wrong.

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Speaker 2: And then when he told me I was being aggressive,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I will kill you with my bare hands.

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Speaker 1: How can someone be so bad that they need PR

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Speaker 1: just for their life. He's not even a celebrity, but

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Speaker 1: he needs PR just to like be fixing the things

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Speaker 1: he said, he needs media.

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Speaker 3: Training honestly, Yeah, before he did this day, he needed.

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Speaker 1: Not just philosophy, Yeah, not just years one years of

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Speaker 1: philosophy learning about how he's not gay but he sucks

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Speaker 1: off rugby boys. But one day he understands how.

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Speaker 4: Honestly though the worst.

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Speaker 5: Next time on twenty eight Dates Later.

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Speaker 2: He is a bit of a player, is what I

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Speaker 2: got told that he goes is on a lot of dates.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look he's Metis Maxton. That is true.

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Speaker 5: You'd all be playing each other.

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Speaker 3: We'd be fucking giving each other st d oh no.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my girls, see around for me. I'm a savage,

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Speaker 2: can it giving? Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by

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Speaker 2: Novel for iHeartRadio. For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio.

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Speaker 2: The series is presented by me Grace Campbell, with help

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Speaker 2: from Roz Pursu and Dan White. The producer is Diggrey Wait.

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Speaker 2: The executive producer is Claire Broughton. Our editors are Mithily

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Speaker 2: Raw and Max O'Brien. Production management from Cherie Houston and

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Wall. Willard Foxton is our creative director of Development.

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