Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We need to retire the phrase no chance,
Speaker 1: no chance of that happening certainly with the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: no chance Tom Brady, there's no chance he's leaving the
Speaker 1: Patriots Tom Brady. There's no chance he's joining the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Rob Gronkowski, there's no chance he's coming out
Speaker 1: of retirement. Luke Keikley, he's not retiring. Lamar Jackson, he's
Speaker 1: got no chance to be the NFL MVP. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: a year ago, if I said he's going to be
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft, you'd probably say, Oh,
Speaker 1: there's no chance it'll be too Teddy Bridgewater is going
Speaker 1: to take over for Cam Newton. No chance. Philip River
Speaker 1: is gonna be a Colt. No chance you know Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck's going to retire. No chance Antonio Brown completely out
Speaker 1: of football. Well, you might have said, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: could probably see that. All of those things have happened
Speaker 1: since last August. So you can't say no chance, certainly
Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL. What an odd NFL
Speaker 1: offseason and we haven't even gotten to the draft yet,
Speaker 1: and we could have some drama. There'll be something that
Speaker 1: happens tomorrow. I still feel like and talking to a
Speaker 1: source yesterday, I said, you gotta help me with Jordan
Speaker 1: Love because it feels like that's the great unknown, and
Speaker 1: God do we love great unknowns. Deshaun Watson was right
Speaker 1: there in front of us, and we had seen everything.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was on a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 1: what did he say? People looked at me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: can he get any better? Like we've seen everything? Right,
Speaker 1: we saw all of his games at Tennessee. It's that
Speaker 1: guy you don't see and you go, he's got potential,
Speaker 1: and that's where you get in trouble. Mitchell Trubisky can
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. Dan Orlovsky had a great tweet
Speaker 1: and he said, be honest about the answer. You can
Speaker 1: either get Carson Wentz or Mitchell Trubisky. Who do you take?
Speaker 1: You can get Deshaun Watson or Mitchell Trubisky. Who do
Speaker 1: you take? Watson's missed a eleven out of forty eight games,
Speaker 1: Whence has missed eight starts in sixty four games. Trubisky
Speaker 1: has missed three starts in forty one games. And then
Speaker 1: Orlovski ends his tweet, talent over durability. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it says cut and dried his talent over durability,
Speaker 1: because I want my talented player to have durability. But
Speaker 1: I would take the risk on two and you have
Speaker 1: people all over the map. We just had Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: on and I said to Chefty, what do you think happens,
Speaker 1: you know with the Dolphins. He goes, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because it changes day to day. And that's why I
Speaker 1: bring up Jordan Love. Somebody is going to look at
Speaker 1: Jordan Love the way the Bears looked at Mitchell Trubisky,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go, man, look at all that potential,
Speaker 1: and he does. I still go back to what you
Speaker 1: do on Saturdays. Deshaun Watson did it on Saturday. But
Speaker 1: people wondered, well, is he gonna be injury prize? Can
Speaker 1: he hold up? What kind of quarterbacks here gonna be
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Y had his coach say, he's Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan of college football. You don't know, And a lot
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks we're seeing are one year phenomenons. Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: you know, Baker Mayfield was a walk on in two
Speaker 1: different places. Joe Burrow didn't have a great junior year
Speaker 1: at LSU. He had the greatest single season in college
Speaker 1: football history his senior year Dwayne Haskins at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: It was one year. You're you're only seeing these players
Speaker 1: at that position for one year, and that's where you
Speaker 1: gotta be a little bit nervous about this. I once
Speaker 1: sustainability here, and what happens is we get sick of
Speaker 1: you and even listening to the draft that you know
Speaker 1: they reaired the draft and this is the twenty seventeen draft,
Speaker 1: and this is how Ad Paulie and I aren't. We're
Speaker 1: watching Pauli still yelling at the Bears to not take
Speaker 1: Mitchell true Bisky. I know, but Lewis Riddick said it
Speaker 1: felt like Deshaun Watson over stayed his welcome in college football.
Speaker 1: We'd seen everything. Now we need to move on with this.
Speaker 1: And even during the draft, John Gruden is surprised that
Speaker 1: teams are passing on Patrick Mahomes because, as Gruden said
Speaker 1: in real time during the draft, I haven't seen an
Speaker 1: arm like this since Brett Farve. Now, of course I'm
Speaker 1: a loser, and I watched a lot of his games
Speaker 1: in college because I was always fascinated, and I, truth
Speaker 1: be told, had no idea it would translate into this
Speaker 1: kind of success. But I did say to the Dan Ends,
Speaker 1: this guy is as fun as any quarterback in college football,
Speaker 1: because it looked like he was out there where you
Speaker 1: draw up plays in the dirt and he was going
Speaker 1: to be able to make whatever throw he wanted to,
Speaker 1: and I thought that that was incredible everything. Then I
Speaker 1: started to read about him and I go, oh, man,
Speaker 1: they're saying he forces it, he wants to be like far.
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing, you know, all these negative things.
Speaker 1: Gun slinger takes chances, and I thought, oh, okay. And
Speaker 1: then go to the draft, and that's when my source said,
Speaker 1: you want to get Patrick mahomes On. I go, why,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like him. He goes, oh, he's moving up.
Speaker 1: I go, wait, what do you mean now he's moving
Speaker 1: up in the draft? I said, well, what round he goes?
Speaker 1: First round? I go, he's moving up? How high he goes?
Speaker 1: He's moving up? Get him on the show. Now. You
Speaker 1: know it's one of those why I say to Fritzie,
Speaker 1: we got to get Patrick mahomes On. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: we got to get him on now. Why this is
Speaker 1: during draft week. He goes, he's moving up. Fritzie goes moving, like,
Speaker 1: where's he moving? I said in the draft he's moving up.
Speaker 1: You must have thought I was crazy when I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta get Mahomes. Ony, Yeah, he's moving on up
Speaker 1: to the west side or east. Yeah. Yeah. Paul. I
Speaker 1: was watching the two thousan seventeen draft and Ruden and
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick and those guys are there and they point
Speaker 1: out that when they the Chiefs trade up to get Mahomes.
Speaker 1: A couple people on the set rock man, this is weird.
Speaker 1: They've got Alex Smith. He's got a winning record, He's
Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns in five picks. Alex Smith had the
Speaker 1: year they took Mahomes. Yeah, but Gruden jumps, he goes,
Speaker 1: you know what, Alex Smith is not special. He goes,
Speaker 1: they think that this guy specially, He goes, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen throws like this since far, and he goes, Andy
Speaker 1: Reid loves guys like that who could do things that
Speaker 1: most guys can. This guy, I like that arm on
Speaker 1: that Mahomes. And then the same thing with DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 1: Now I thought DeShawn Watson was going to be a
Speaker 1: very good quarterback in the NFL. Mahomes. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's one of those guys that just has potential
Speaker 1: and he's going to be sort of a loose cannon
Speaker 1: in there. But if you play for a team that's
Speaker 1: not very good that you know you can still have
Speaker 1: fun with him and lo and behold, you see what
Speaker 1: he's done in the last two years, and you know
Speaker 1: he's on his way to a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: I just saw this boy. We're gonna have Matt Miller
Speaker 1: on he is covering the draft for bleacher Report. He'll
Speaker 1: join us coming up. Josina Anderson of The Mothership just
Speaker 1: tweeted the Washington Redskins are still fielding inquiries of potential
Speaker 1: interest as of this morning, but one team in particular
Speaker 1: has already laid out a complete deal for their number
Speaker 1: one pick. If you know the team, if you know
Speaker 1: the team, you know the deal. Can't you tweet it
Speaker 1: unless the Redskins say, hey, we got somebody who's they're
Speaker 1: absolutely drunk. They want to give us everything here and
Speaker 1: then Matt Miller from bleacher Report said, watch the Patriots
Speaker 1: trade thirteen selections to get the number two pick. And
Speaker 1: take Chase Young. I don't think that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: but he'll join us coming up here. I was wondering
Speaker 1: if anybody's going up to get that number two pick,
Speaker 1: and Washington wants to drum up some interest there because
Speaker 1: what you hear is, yeah, we got some teams that
Speaker 1: are interested, but hey, we love Chase Young. Okay, I
Speaker 1: get it. Is somebody going up at number two to
Speaker 1: get Chase Young? Are they going up to get to
Speaker 1: a tongue of ioloa and a long winded way of
Speaker 1: getting back to Jordan Love. I think somebody does something
Speaker 1: a little crazy tomorrow night with Jordan Love. I maybe
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely wrong, but I just talking to somebody yesterday
Speaker 1: and he said, look, I don't like him. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go all in as a first round draft pick, but
Speaker 1: there are people who really like him. They really like
Speaker 1: him because they see If we saw Jordan Love play
Speaker 1: on the sec or ACC and you saw his all
Speaker 1: of his games the last two years, you go, oh,
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of Dak Prescott. But it
Speaker 1: feels like there's this great mystery that somebody's gonna go.
Speaker 1: You didn't see this like we did, And I think
Speaker 1: teams learn from what Andy Reid did because Andy Reid said,
Speaker 1: I got a capable quarterback here, and Alex Smith, pro
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback, led us to the playoffs. You have to
Speaker 1: take a chance and and this is what Dan Orlovski
Speaker 1: was saying the other day. You gotta take a chance
Speaker 1: and that means you got to take a chance on
Speaker 1: toa It feels like you're at the craps table. Do
Speaker 1: you feel do you have a team in your head
Speaker 1: that's gonna do something? No, I don't because I asked
Speaker 1: my source, so I said, who's gonna Who's gonna do something?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know. I just know that The
Speaker 1: chatter amongst scouts is they're fascinated about Jordan's love that
Speaker 1: they're not quite sure because they know what they see
Speaker 1: in Justin Herbert. This this was the download I got yesterday.
Speaker 1: Burrow they think is real but won't be really great.
Speaker 1: Two has the chance to be really great or in
Speaker 1: five years he's not playing in the NFL. Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're getting. Jordan Love is the mystery.
Speaker 1: And if you look back, we've seen Justin Herbert the
Speaker 1: last couple of years with all that hype we've seen
Speaker 1: to a tongue of ioloa. We've seen Joe Burrow. Who's
Speaker 1: the guy we haven't seen Jordan Love. Oh, it's so good,
Speaker 1: it is so good. Pull options, McLevin. What do you
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Speaker 1: firm who reached out to us, and they were very nice,
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Speaker 1: How's that? What's that T shirt? Read? Seaton? So his
Speaker 1: name is Tom? Okay, right, never really made that? Yeah
Speaker 1: we did, I said, we really did. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: because that's what you know. The letter we got from
Speaker 1: the law firm said, you know, they pointed some things
Speaker 1: out that his name is Tom. Tom first name is Tom,
Speaker 1: and his last name is Brady, and he wears number twelve.
Speaker 1: And I go, well, why don't we just make that
Speaker 1: T shirt? Like like Tom can't trademark Tom. And so
Speaker 1: those websites are up there, and what's it read? Seaton
Speaker 1: On the front? I believe it says his first name
Speaker 1: is Tom Okay. On the back it says we appreciate
Speaker 1: your enthusiasm. That was also in the letter that said
Speaker 1: we appreciate your enthusiasm. I don't want to get sued.
Speaker 1: I feel like we do with putting that up there.
Speaker 1: We're quoting the letter from the laws. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: I'm also listening to what was said in a letter
Speaker 1: to us to take it down, which we will, and
Speaker 1: we'll send a letter to them to say we're going
Speaker 1: to comply and take this down. Absolutely. We understand that
Speaker 1: when Tom gets that. Now, could we push this if
Speaker 1: we wanted to? Yeah, we could, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1: You know, we we've we've we've done. Does Gronk have
Speaker 1: a lawyer, because if he is, he represented by the
Speaker 1: same people with Brady, because we may get one of
Speaker 1: these letters from Gronk with Gronken years, Yes, Eden, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we can acknowledge that we're being generous in
Speaker 1: our own right by giving up the shirt that we created.
Speaker 1: Yeah to Tom is intellectual property. I'm giving the shirt
Speaker 1: off my back to Tom Brady literally literally giving that
Speaker 1: up there. All right, McLevin, what's the pull question? Okay?
Speaker 1: Last night Paul had to endure watching Mitchell Trubisky being drafted.
Speaker 1: Who is the quarterback in five years that we're at
Speaker 1: A say, I can't believe that team picked him. There
Speaker 1: if I give you Joe Burrow to a Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: Jordan Love and Justice Herbert, who's the guy in five years,
Speaker 1: we're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe how wrong
Speaker 1: everybody was. It'll be Jordan Love or Jalen Hurts. I
Speaker 1: feel like, because if Miami takes two or the Chargers
Speaker 1: take two, I don't think we're going to be critical
Speaker 1: of them. If if somebody goes goofy and goes up
Speaker 1: and then takes Justin Herbert at number two, then we
Speaker 1: might be doing that. It's who did or didn't take
Speaker 1: Jordan Love And to a lesser degree, who did or
Speaker 1: didn't take Jalen Hurts because I could still see Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts as as a guy in Carolina where you can
Speaker 1: get him maybe in the third round and he's your
Speaker 1: backup to Teddy Bridgewater. Maybe. But I just if TWA
Speaker 1: starts to fall, Jacksonville Raiders and Carolina from what I'm told,
Speaker 1: are going to seize the opportunity, and they'd be crazy
Speaker 1: not too. If I'm Jacksonville, I got Gardner Minshew, and
Speaker 1: I can get tah at a discounted rate. Yep. The
Speaker 1: Raiders is tricky from what I was told, because Okay,
Speaker 1: you got car and you bring in Marcus Mariota, and
Speaker 1: I think they do have a soft spot in their
Speaker 1: Hartford car even though it feels like it's it's very
Speaker 1: tenuous there. And then you bring in Mariota, can they
Speaker 1: and Gruden knows quarterbacks, can you make him a reclamation project? Yes?
Speaker 1: But if TWA falls in your lap and you go
Speaker 1: into a new stadium, I think that'll be tough to
Speaker 1: pass up there. But Jordan Love, definitely somebody's going to
Speaker 1: be really in pun intended in love, really in love.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I like Jalen Hurts as you know, kind
Speaker 1: of a discounted quarterback. Yeah, Nick Levin, what if Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert is the Blake Bortles of this draft and he
Speaker 1: goes two or three to the team has been slow
Speaker 1: playing him, Well, we expect him to be up there.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't go two or three, then he's gonna
Speaker 1: go five or six. That's not a big Mitchell Trubisky
Speaker 1: shocked us, right, they traded up for him. Yeah, mclovit.
Speaker 1: He was moving up. Mocked drafts mysteriously. Trubisky. He was
Speaker 1: like by the end he was four or five and
Speaker 1: everybody's mock two is shocking. But the amazing thing is
Speaker 1: there was nothing that I saw from Truebisky where I went.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. You know if you're
Speaker 1: if you're lighting up the acc I mean, hey, he
Speaker 1: did you see what he did against Wake Forest? Uh? No, yap?
Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts could be the other way, right, How
Speaker 1: do we pass on this guy? He's a bigger, stronger
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He ran for thirteen hundred yards last year
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. He threw for four thousand yards
Speaker 1: in a seventy percent passer in college at Alabama and Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: he threw for eighty touchdowns and twenty picks. But I
Speaker 1: think he's been pigeonholed as like a fullback in a
Speaker 1: you know, a half back in a quarterback's position and
Speaker 1: they can't get out of it. Yeah, there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of Dak Prescott with him as well. I can
Speaker 1: see that sort of hYP there. But that's not bad,
Speaker 1: not bad at all. Jordan Love had seventeen interceptions last year.
Speaker 1: That's the most in FBS. Yeah, I'm club. Can you
Speaker 1: explain that. I still don't get it. He was so
Speaker 1: bad last year? Well, it's a new Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what I was told. My source said, hey had a
Speaker 1: whole new scheme. He didn't master the scheme, and there
Speaker 1: were injuries, and he did not have anywhere near the
Speaker 1: offense he had the previous year. Because I watched two
Speaker 1: full games last year, because I was told, you got
Speaker 1: to see this Jordan Love guy. I said, who's he
Speaker 1: played for? He said Utass State? And I go, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Utass State. And I did, and I went,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. And then my source goes watch
Speaker 1: him again. I watched it again. I said I don't
Speaker 1: get it, and he said, all right, well, those aren't.
Speaker 1: Those were two bad games. I go, well, tell me
Speaker 1: when he has a good one. I got to go
Speaker 1: back to the previous year, twenty eighteen. But he does
Speaker 1: have a ton of talent. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: somebody as a big arm. I don't you know what
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear. This guy has the ability to
Speaker 1: process in real time, and he stands in the pocket
Speaker 1: when he gets hit, he gets back up. When he
Speaker 1: throws an interception, he comes back with even more kind
Speaker 1: Those are the things I want at that position. You
Speaker 1: can have a big arm, and usually when they lead
Speaker 1: with that, it feels like you're lacking in something else
Speaker 1: that I think is really important. The intangibles at that
Speaker 1: position are so important, more so than any other position
Speaker 1: in all of sports. The intangibles. What's Brady? But you
Speaker 1: know if you put him at the combine again, like
Speaker 1: there's no physical traits where you go, God, he's got
Speaker 1: he's got he No, you don't have any of that.
Speaker 1: He has intangibles. He's considered mentally tough, smart, and that's
Speaker 1: what position requires. If they can't put their hands on you,
Speaker 1: you have blocking schemes there. You know, guys can throw
Speaker 1: for four thousand yards accidentally, and you can throw for
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns or thirty interceptions. But at that position, I
Speaker 1: want to know how do you process the game? Because
Speaker 1: everybody else is going to put up good numbers, But
Speaker 1: the difference is putting up numbers, but also putting up
Speaker 1: numbers when you need to when the game's on the line.
Speaker 1: And that's why I would take Russell Wilson over anybody,
Speaker 1: game on the line, drive to win it. I think
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in football, and I haven't wavered
Speaker 1: off that the last couple of years. In fact, I
Speaker 1: go back to the Super Bowl that they lost against
Speaker 1: New England, and I saw he was the better quarterback
Speaker 1: on the field that day. I thought he was spectacular. Now,
Speaker 1: granted that play call horrible and we know how it ended.
Speaker 1: But you know, you get that guy who's smart. You
Speaker 1: know I can take advantage here. I've been in this situation.
Speaker 1: I process this, I've done my homework. That's what you want,
Speaker 1: not somebody who's got a big arm. It's like the
Speaker 1: guy who man, that guy can throw hard. Does he
Speaker 1: throw it over the plate? No, but he can throw hard,
Speaker 1: and I'd prefer that you maybe throw it over the
Speaker 1: plate here, Paulie, Do I have to take a break
Speaker 1: right now? You do? Okay? And you gotta watch something.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady just posted a nice video. Is it about us? No? No,
Speaker 1: it's gron related. Oh, Gronk related. Oh okay, Oh you
Speaker 1: just sent me a link. Okay, we'll take a break here.
Speaker 1: Matt Miller Bleacher Report will join us. Does a great
Speaker 1: job the last decade covering the draft. Nick Saban in
Speaker 1: an hour from now, and we'll check in with the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers coming up. Top of the hour. We'll get to
Speaker 1: phone calls as well. It's twenty one after the hour,
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Speaker 1: up back. We'll get to Ryan and Ohio right now.
Speaker 1: Hey Ryan, what's on your mind? Hey Damn six five
Speaker 1: two forty. I am curious what your thoughts are on
Speaker 1: the Browns investigating trade options for Trent Williams or if
Speaker 1: you think that they should draft tackle in the first round.
Speaker 1: I'll hang up. Trent's gonna cost you a lot, but
Speaker 1: you might look at doing both. I was just told
Speaker 1: that the Redskins will trade Trent Williams and get a
Speaker 1: number one pick and then use that pick on an
Speaker 1: offensive line. And my source said that still believes Chase
Speaker 1: Young is going to Washington no matter what is being
Speaker 1: said here about you know, somebody's got a complete package here.
Speaker 1: Josina Anderson from the Mothership Covers the NFL said that,
Speaker 1: you know, the Redskins are fielding offers here, inquiries, and
Speaker 1: that somebody has put an offer there in front of
Speaker 1: the Redskins. I don't know if it's an offer that
Speaker 1: they can refuse or can't refuse. But I just told
Speaker 1: Trent Williams will be traded and Washington will get a
Speaker 1: first round pick. Maybe that's to Cleveland. But oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, we just saw this video that Tom Brady
Speaker 1: put out, and I this can't be in Tampa. This
Speaker 1: has to be in New England, where Tom's in his
Speaker 1: backyard and he's got a horn like one of those
Speaker 1: Viking horns or something, and then Gronk comes out of
Speaker 1: the woods here and then he says he's out of breathing,
Speaker 1: goes Gronk reporting, reporting his order. I don't know when
Speaker 1: they shot this, but Brady just put it out. Make
Speaker 1: it seem like Gronk has come to the rescue there
Speaker 1: in Tampa. But it's good. But that's New England, that
Speaker 1: is not Tampa. They must have just said, you know,
Speaker 1: let's spoof somebody because eventually, you know, maybe you do
Speaker 1: come out of retirement. If not, it will be fun
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, stir the pot a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yea poll? Did he make one with Edelman as well?
Speaker 1: Just in case feel bad for h for Jules. He
Speaker 1: got looking around that locker room and go, what am
Speaker 1: I doing? Who are these guys? You kind of be like,
Speaker 1: what in the hell happened? Wait? Wait wait wait in
Speaker 1: the last one, yeah, wait, who do I got? I
Speaker 1: got Chris Hogan here? Okay, now I feel better. Dola's gone.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gone, man, Yeah, everybody made the same joke yesterday
Speaker 1: about Edelman and just kind of being sad looking out
Speaker 1: the window and nobody's you know, every Gronk's gone. Why
Speaker 1: not trade Edelman as well, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: get for Edelman, but unless Belichick's unless he can win
Speaker 1: the you know, the trade, then you know you're not
Speaker 1: gonna go. You know, hey, Jules, I know you're kind
Speaker 1: of sad. I'm going to send you to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I don't think Belichick really cares. Matt Miller Bleacher Report,
Speaker 1: NFL Draft expert and has been doing so for a
Speaker 1: decade or so. Good to have you back, Matt. How
Speaker 1: are you done well? Dan, It's gonna be back home
Speaker 1: with you guys as well. All right, explain this. Joe
Speaker 1: Cina Anderson had something that maybe somebody's going up to
Speaker 1: get the number two pick with the Washington Redskins a
Speaker 1: factor fit. I mean, is there something here. I'm sure
Speaker 1: someone has tried, but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And I think with Chase Young, I almost feel like
Speaker 1: this happens every year, usually with an Ohio State defensive
Speaker 1: in like this happened to Nick and Joey Bosa too,
Speaker 1: where by late April we're like, oh, we're over this guy.
Speaker 1: He's been great for three years. I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear about it anymore. But Chase Young is the best
Speaker 1: player in the draft. No disrespect to Joe Burrow, Chase
Speaker 1: Young's the best player in the draft. He should be
Speaker 1: a ten or twelve sack player right away. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have an amazing impact. That's not the kind of guy
Speaker 1: you trade away from, especially when I do think it
Speaker 1: is a need. So I'm sure Joe Cina is right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone did offer a package of picks. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean Washington has to take that package of picks.
Speaker 1: As you were saying before, I think it's more likely
Speaker 1: the trade Trent Williams, whether that's to the Browns, the Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, someone in that ten to fifteen pick range.
Speaker 1: And then they, you know, they double down and get
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle somewhere in the middle of the first round.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who needs that tackle more. Is
Speaker 1: it Denver, is it Cleveland? Or is it Tampa. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tampa's offensive line is not good at all. But if
Speaker 1: you were going to place Trent Williams, where would you
Speaker 1: place him. Well, if I'm try Williams, I want to
Speaker 1: go to Tampa. I want to play with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and Rob Gronkowski and have fun down there at the
Speaker 1: adult establishments that they have in Tampa Bay. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to Cleveland and Gilad Baker, Mayfield and
Speaker 1: and you know all the personalities on that team. Denver
Speaker 1: would be okay, but like you're not beating Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: in the Chiefs. So if you go to Denver, you see,
Speaker 1: at best, you're a wild card team for as long
Speaker 1: as you know he's thirty two. For the rest of
Speaker 1: your career, you're a wild card team. So if I'm
Speaker 1: try Williams, I think he's his own agent. So he
Speaker 1: should be talking to Kyle Smith and the red Skins
Speaker 1: today saying, hey, I want to go to Tampa. That's
Speaker 1: where I want to end up. Because other than that,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the Jets, even a lot of
Speaker 1: the other teams need offensive tackles and might be willing
Speaker 1: to trade. They're just they're not good teams. And you
Speaker 1: have the possibility of going to Tampa, which I've heard
Speaker 1: this morning that they almost dealt for him. A couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. They almost traded Oj Howard for Trent Williams.
Speaker 1: So I think there's already a framework there that hopefully
Speaker 1: something like that does get done. Who will make a
Speaker 1: trade tomorrow in the first round. Oh, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people. I think we want to see a
Speaker 1: lot of trades this year because these gms have been
Speaker 1: sitting at home trying to avoid their wives and kids,
Speaker 1: with nothing to do but get on the phone with
Speaker 1: each other. So I think we'll see a lot of trades.
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers probably want to trade back, the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: the Jaggers probably want to trade back, so that's three
Speaker 1: teams in the top ten. I think the Falcons would
Speaker 1: like to come up to get CJ. Henderson from Florida.
Speaker 1: Feels like the Broncos would like to come up as
Speaker 1: well to get a wide receiver like Jerry Judy from
Speaker 1: Alabama or Ceedee Lamb from Oklahoma. So I think we
Speaker 1: could see a decent amount of action. You know. Also,
Speaker 1: like we always see a little bit at the end
Speaker 1: of the first round. But the forty nine ers don't
Speaker 1: have a pick in around two, three or four, they're
Speaker 1: gonna want more picks. That Jemps only have five selections
Speaker 1: in this draft, They're gonna want more picks. Saints only
Speaker 1: have five picks, so I think we could even see those,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty four to thirty two we could see
Speaker 1: a lot of action there is people try to get
Speaker 1: out when we're rewatching this draft in five years, who's
Speaker 1: the quarterback that we can't believe was drafted in that spot.
Speaker 1: If I said Burrow to a Herbert, Jordan Love or
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, I will take Jordan Love just because I
Speaker 1: feel like he does have the best potential. But potential
Speaker 1: such a dirty word in evaluating because not very many
Speaker 1: people realize it. I'm sure like everybody else. I was
Speaker 1: watching the twenty seventeen redrafts last night and to seem
Speaker 1: a homeless fall at to ten and there'd be a
Speaker 1: lot of skepticism of what this guy is going to be.
Speaker 1: He went to the perfect landing spot, and for Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: it would take a similar perfect landing spot. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: the Colts where he can sit and learn from Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: somewhere where he's not gonna be forced into action right away.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Tampa where he can learn behind Tom until
Speaker 1: he's ready to move on. But I think Jordan Love's
Speaker 1: raw talent is really intriguing to the point that he
Speaker 1: should be a top five pick, maybe not even a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. But I do think if there's me
Speaker 1: one guy on the positive side, if there's one guy
Speaker 1: that surprises us, it would be Jordan Love. On the negative,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel really good that Justin Herbert's gonna
Speaker 1: go number five overall, and I feel really good that
Speaker 1: he should not go number five overall, so he might
Speaker 1: be the mister misty. I just don't think he's that
Speaker 1: good Dan. I really don't. Everyone when they talk about
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, they point to one game, the Rose Bowl,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, but look how good he
Speaker 1: was the Senior Bowl. In the combine, you're in shorts,
Speaker 1: there's no deepense. But why don't other teams see it?
Speaker 1: I think because I don't have to draft a quarterback
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna lose my job, Like Weatroport's not gonna
Speaker 1: fire me if I missed on a quarterback. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get embarrassed on Twitter. That's all it's gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure from owners and fans and especially
Speaker 1: you know, if you're in Miami, you haven't had a
Speaker 1: quarterback since Dan Marino, and you have to look at
Speaker 1: what Drew Brees does every year in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: say we passed on that. So now I think there
Speaker 1: is just an incredible amount of pressure. It's why ej.
Speaker 1: Manuel goes in the first round. It's why you trade
Speaker 1: up for Mitch Traubisky. It's it's you know, this position
Speaker 1: when any over other gets over evaluated. Justin Herbert at
Speaker 1: the end of the year was not the second best
Speaker 1: quarterback in his draft class. But Thursday night he'll be
Speaker 1: drafted at that spot. So I think that's where surt
Speaker 1: teams miss and mess up. And I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I want every player to succeed, but I just cannot
Speaker 1: sign off on that guy being a top five pick.
Speaker 1: What about tah I love tah Man, you just feel
Speaker 1: bad for him because the injuries. I think he's I
Speaker 1: think that's who Miami should draft. But again, if you know,
Speaker 1: if he has arthritis and his hip and can't play
Speaker 1: at the level they expect, I don't get fired for
Speaker 1: saying that's who they should draft. There are questions there.
Speaker 1: He's had four surgeries in two years. No the hand,
Speaker 1: both ankles, and the hip. And even if you say, hey,
Speaker 1: he's clear for football activity, Okay, he is today April
Speaker 1: twenty second, what's gonna happen October fifth. How's he gonna
Speaker 1: look there? He's He's not stayed healthy for an entire
Speaker 1: season at Alabama, and so I think when you draft him,
Speaker 1: that's just something you might have to deal with. You
Speaker 1: might have to be aware of the fact that we
Speaker 1: might not get this guy for sixteen games. This might
Speaker 1: be a Ben Roethlisberger situation where it's gonna be really
Speaker 1: good when he's on the field, and when he's not,
Speaker 1: you need to have a pretty good backup because it
Speaker 1: might not be our seventeen games once we get to
Speaker 1: lat level. But I think Twa does everything you want. Touch, timing, accuracy,
Speaker 1: you know, like the most important part of playing the position.
Speaker 1: Can you throw the ball where it's supposed to go? Twa?
Speaker 1: Does that? Really? Really? Will it? Does it consistently from
Speaker 1: the pocket, on the move? It's outside of the injuries,
Speaker 1: I think he's everything you would want. Well, that's why
Speaker 1: if I'm the Chargers and he falls into my lap
Speaker 1: at six and I'm moving into a new stadium and
Speaker 1: we can sit him for as long as we want.
Speaker 1: With Tyrod Taylor, you know, it's and I've had people
Speaker 1: say this, when it comes to the draft, you take risk,
Speaker 1: You take chances. Dan Orlovsky said, hey, take a chance.
Speaker 1: I know what Justin Herbert is. I'm not quite sure
Speaker 1: what two is going to be. Don't be afraid to
Speaker 1: be great. Don't be afraid to roll the dice. Here.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Chargers and two is there and you
Speaker 1: really feel like you want a quarterback, I consider that
Speaker 1: a godsend. I do too, and not just from a
Speaker 1: business perspective of your moving into a new stadium, you
Speaker 1: need to face in the franchise, from a football perspective.
Speaker 1: Like you said, they are telling everyone who will listen
Speaker 1: that they like Tyrod Taylor. Okay, let Tyrod play until
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with ta until he can acclimate and
Speaker 1: you're really really comfortable with the health. But I do
Speaker 1: think people forget the owners are involved in the draft
Speaker 1: and a normal you're that owner is in the draft room,
Speaker 1: whateveryone helping make these decisions, and eventually you have to
Speaker 1: sell tickets. Two of being from Hawaii, keep him over
Speaker 1: there on the West coast in LA. He's going to
Speaker 1: be a superstar and you're also getting I think he's
Speaker 1: the most marketable, most well known player in this draft.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is gonna be the first pick. Two is
Speaker 1: the household name. I get asked about him more than
Speaker 1: any player in the draft, So I think it makes
Speaker 1: sense of the Chargers not to mention how amazing is
Speaker 1: he going to look? In those New York guys? Just
Speaker 1: look like on a team. She was meant to be
Speaker 1: a Charger. Yeah, that's great. Maybe you'll make it and
Speaker 1: look faster. Matt Miller, Bleacher Report, NFL Draft insider joining
Speaker 1: us here. All right, I'm gonna make you the GM
Speaker 1: and just give me, like a ten or fifteen second
Speaker 1: what you would do? You're the Bengals GM, what do
Speaker 1: you do at number one? Joe Burrow without I've already
Speaker 1: handed the card in. It's that easy, Okay, the Redskins
Speaker 1: Chase Young again, similar, it's that easy. This is a
Speaker 1: generational pipe talent Detroit. I would trade I would try
Speaker 1: to trade out. I think you could move back to
Speaker 1: five or six and still get Jeff Akuda, the corner
Speaker 1: from Ohio State. Would you consider a quarterback at three?
Speaker 1: Not upon the Lions if they have too much money
Speaker 1: wrapped up in Matthew Stafford, I think you have to.
Speaker 1: You're paying them thirty million dollars. This year. I think
Speaker 1: you have to give it one more year. If it
Speaker 1: doesn't work next year, you look at Trevor Lawrence, Trey Lance,
Speaker 1: justin Field, think twenty twenty ones when you move on
Speaker 1: if you have to, and the New York Giants. So
Speaker 1: I would take Isaiah Simmons because I know exactly what
Speaker 1: he is. He's a difference maker. I compared him to
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor, like I've never seen anyone on defense like this.
Speaker 1: They'll probably take an offensive tackle because it's dead gentleman,
Speaker 1: but the chance like Isaiah Simmons is so much better
Speaker 1: at his position than all these tackles, aren't. There's there's
Speaker 1: you know, there's not a Trutt Williams and Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: There's not an elite tackle. Isaiah Simmons is an elite
Speaker 1: defensive player. Miami Dolphins. I would take TWA and and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we missed on Drew Brees because we
Speaker 1: were a little afraid to take a risk. We're not
Speaker 1: going to make that same mistake again. The Chargers. If
Speaker 1: two is not there, so I would take a tackle.
Speaker 1: I would take Jeddrick Wills, the trader, Russello Kong. I
Speaker 1: would take a tackle role with Tyron Taylor, and then
Speaker 1: in the second round, I would draft Jalen Hurts. He's
Speaker 1: probably going to be there. He fits what they want
Speaker 1: to do offensively at thirty seven. Overall, if I could
Speaker 1: walk out of there with Jeddrick Wills and Jalen Hurt,
Speaker 1: I would feel very, very good about my first two picks.
Speaker 1: And I was wondering if if let's say ta is
Speaker 1: available for Carolina, available for Jacksonville, available for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Out of those three teams, who bites I would say
Speaker 1: the Jags just because Gardner minshew, you have nothing invested
Speaker 1: in him, like you got kind of lucky last year
Speaker 1: that he was good, salaries, unimportant, and if you replace him,
Speaker 1: it's this guy was a Day three pick. We didn't
Speaker 1: value him that much at the time. We now have
Speaker 1: a very inexpensive, very good quarterback room. The Panthers have
Speaker 1: invested in Teddy for a couple of years. With the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think two is a great fit for
Speaker 1: John Gruden's offense, so I can understand the allure there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: John always wants to get better at quarterback, but I
Speaker 1: think of those Jacksonville would be the best fit for him.
Speaker 1: I'll leave you with this. Write the headline for Friday morning.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's tough. I mean, I think the headline
Speaker 1: is going to be about the quarterbacks falling. Herbert's gonna
Speaker 1: go five, and then where TWA goes? If I think
Speaker 1: go six, do the Patriots trade up to get him
Speaker 1: to the Saints get their quarterback of the feature? To
Speaker 1: the Packers get a quarterback of the feature? So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, when I stumble out of bed Friday morning,
Speaker 1: that's probably what I'll be thinking about is how much
Speaker 1: the quarterback landscape in the NFL changed overnight. Great stuff, Matt,
Speaker 1: and have fun tomorrow. We appreciate your time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Have a great one. That's Matt Miller,
Speaker 1: Bleacher Report, NFL Draft expert. Yeah. Really, I look at
Speaker 1: TWA as that's where the draft starts or changes. Chase
Speaker 1: Young should go to, Joe Burrow goes one. If Detroit
Speaker 1: wants to play it safe and take the great defensive
Speaker 1: back Jeff Acota out of Ohio State, All right, I
Speaker 1: get that. Giants. Do you take a great defensive player
Speaker 1: or do you take you know, an offensive need and
Speaker 1: get a tackle there? Then it gets interesting. What do
Speaker 1: the Dolphins do when they're on the clock, do they
Speaker 1: want that quarterback? You can put him behind Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: And then the Chargers do the Chargers if two is there,
Speaker 1: do they take him? If Justin Herbert is there, do
Speaker 1: they take So it feels like it's it's two. Is
Speaker 1: making people think because you're not quite sure. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to his head coach. We'll talk to Nick Saban coming
Speaker 1: up next hour. We'll take a break here and come
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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show. On this day, two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: former Cardinals safety Pat Tillman killed in Afghanistan by friendly fire. Wow,
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago. I hope his wife is doing okay
Speaker 1: today two thousand and four. Was it on this day
Speaker 1: that Gronk announced his retirement? I think we had Tom
Speaker 1: Curran on and is that the case? Andy, I'll check
Speaker 1: it's right about now. I think you think it's exactly today.
Speaker 1: I thought it was, and we had Tom Curran on
Speaker 1: yeah point, I got March twenty fourth, twenty nineteen. I
Speaker 1: got March twenty four. Oh okay, yeah, for some reason
Speaker 1: I thought it was around this time. But so it
Speaker 1: was a month ago that he or last month? How
Speaker 1: many years ago? Three years ago? For GROUNK. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what day of the week it is right now,
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm not it's come Tuesday, Dan, No,
Speaker 1: it's not that would be Tuesday. You could have convinced me.
Speaker 1: Sound like you knew what he's talking about. It is
Speaker 1: all right, I mean, it doesn't matter like all these
Speaker 1: days where you got base everything on when garbage day is.
Speaker 1: That's the only way that I know and what's happened.
Speaker 1: And today is garbage day for me, and that she'll
Speaker 1: the reason why I knew it was Wednesday there as Paulie,
Speaker 1: what do you guys do when you have way too
Speaker 1: much garbage? Do you pilot on top and try to
Speaker 1: crunch it down or put it on the sides and
Speaker 1: risk animals getting it? What's your policy? I bring it
Speaker 1: in to the studio and we have a big dumpster
Speaker 1: out there, really, Yeah, I offload. Yeah, that's a good move.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when I had to get this medical
Speaker 1: I had to get this document and I accidentally threw
Speaker 1: it away, and that's when I had to come back
Speaker 1: here on a Saturday morning and I had to jump
Speaker 1: in the dumpster, Yeah, to find this document or I
Speaker 1: couldn't go and get this blood work done. And I'm
Speaker 1: and they had the security camera. The big german has all,
Speaker 1: you know, this armada of security cameras, and he's punching
Speaker 1: it up and he records me jumping into the dumpster
Speaker 1: to get this document. Here. Todd, when's the last time
Speaker 1: you took out the garbage m Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: I So we're j Lo and a Rod are interested
Speaker 1: in maybe getting investors to buy the Mets. There they
Speaker 1: would be the faces of the franchise, which is good.
Speaker 1: Don't know how a Rod would be obviously involved in
Speaker 1: the baseball part of this, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's putting up money. How does that work? When you
Speaker 1: say we want to get a group together, we want
Speaker 1: to use your money, but we want to get a
Speaker 1: group together. I'd like to do that. I'd like to
Speaker 1: get a group together with your money and we do something. Yeah, Poll,
Speaker 1: I know it's way down the road and it's just
Speaker 1: one of those stories in the New York papers. But
Speaker 1: MLB has to approve all owners just like they did
Speaker 1: with you know, they didn't approve Mark Cuban when he
Speaker 1: went for the Cubs. They slapped him on the rest. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if a Rod with his past, even though
Speaker 1: it's a long time ago, would be approved for ownership.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great question. And that's the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room. Does Rob Manfred look at a Rod
Speaker 1: and what's hec? Who's hec? And you know this this
Speaker 1: guy went after baseball. You know he's he's a cheater. Um.
Speaker 1: It feels like his image has been greatly softened because
Speaker 1: of Jlo. But because you know, these networks have hired
Speaker 1: him to be their lead analyst. The Mothership Fox puts
Speaker 1: him on in the postseason, you know j Loo the
Speaker 1: halftime show, A Rod is there. You know, it's to me,
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of an orchestrated way of softening that
Speaker 1: negative image that a Rod had to get him into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I really believe that that plays
Speaker 1: a large role in this. But if he wants to
Speaker 1: be the face or the faces of the mets um.
Speaker 1: I guess they could do worse. Yeah, you gotta give
Speaker 1: Arad credit for pulling this off. Though I've seen him
Speaker 1: on Shark Tank, I've seen him on different shows where
Speaker 1: he's like a celebrity judgeon and the casual sports fan
Speaker 1: is forgetting about his past. He looks good, he sounds good.
Speaker 1: But and you're right, this whole new wave of baseball
Speaker 1: writer Hall of Fame voters, you know, they're gonna look
Speaker 1: at this differently than somebody my somebody's been around the game.
Speaker 1: They're gonna look at steroids differently. You know. The question
Speaker 1: is can Clemmens and Bonds hold on to tap into
Speaker 1: that new wave of Hall of Fame voter. A Rod's
Speaker 1: going to benefit and a Rod put up unbelievable numbers,
Speaker 1: and he was a wonderful player, But when you get
Speaker 1: popped a couple of times, you shouldn't be eligible for
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. In my opinion, if one time, okay,
Speaker 1: second time, you should be out of baseball. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the way I would if you want to get
Speaker 1: him out of the game, that's how you do it.
Speaker 1: Baseball used to have like you could get you could
Speaker 1: test positive for like five times and and you know
Speaker 1: your suspension wasn't like a year. I mean it was
Speaker 1: crazy back then. You're like, oh you tested positive. Oh
Speaker 1: you tested positive again. I think it was like five times,
Speaker 1: and then they gave you like ten games or something.
Speaker 1: Crazy point. I miss the real old days before oh two,
Speaker 1: and there was no testing. You had to get caught
Speaker 1: with it on your lock or shelf. We had to
Speaker 1: catch you with a needle in your arm. Steroid. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: Conseco and McGuire, what are you doing in that bathroom stall? Uh? Nothing? Well,
Speaker 1: bas Jim bagas h you could be well okay going
Speaker 1: into I remember going into the Mets locker room at
Speaker 1: eighty six and I saw this big bowl of I
Speaker 1: thought it was like M and M's or something, and
Speaker 1: it was speed the best I've ever Yea some more
Speaker 1: Oh the good Old days coming up. We'll check in
Speaker 1: with Rick Stroud, does a great job covering Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: a great columnist, and Nick Saban will join us as well.
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