WEBVTT - 2024 Week 9 Preview 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:13.040 Well THEO the NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.560 where we would never dress our kid as the Rizzler 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:20.480 for Halloween. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.880 Steve Weiss is back for a doubleheader week from Weiss 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.680 and Patrick Claybon is here. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:28.760 It's the week nine preview. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:30.319 Let's get it. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.080 Let's get it Week nine as we start in Germany 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.760 on Sunday, looking forward to that halfway point, not this week, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:37.720 next week, not next week. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.479 Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think so. Colleen 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.959 hasn't left us yet. She's gonna actually do a half 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:47.960 an episode that'll be our trade Deadline Day spectacular with Colleen. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.960 I don't know who's left a trade. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.639 It's true. I love it. I've been asking for this 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.360 for years. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.840 I'm not saying the NFL did it to appease me, 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.680 but I've been asking for them to push back the 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.880 trade deadline that happened, and I've been wanting us as 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:03.640 the NFL to be a little more. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:04.280 Like the NBA. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.760 They get such good podcast mileage of talking possible trades 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:09.760 all season long, Like why can't we have that? 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:10.479 And we have that now? 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.240 We have it. We have it now. Now it's kind 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.679 of like, is the NFL going to become the NBA 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.280 where it's like the haves and have nots by the 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.040 midway point? Are we going to sit? Are we gonna 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.280 top load the league? 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.959 It's a big week for that because there are ten 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.360 teams in the league that have two wins or less. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.120 So if you get a win this week, maybe you're 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.640 not as big a seller. But if you're one of 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.440 those ten teams and you don't get a win, maybe 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.039 that'll make our show next week even better. 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.200 Yeah, I'll give you some time to make a decision. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.679 Perhaps there's a couple of general managers out there who 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.280 are watching. Maybe some guys that we expect to play 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.240 on Sunday, maybe they won't end up playing illness because 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.160 they'll be shipped out coming up before Tuesday's deadline. The 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.840 most significant event happening next Tuesday, and these ustatos unidos. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.440 Let's start guys going smallest to biggest spread this week, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.640 and we'll begin with the Chicago Bears. Is there a 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.200 Hail Mary hangover going on the road to the Desert? 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.640 Take on the Arizona Cardinals, The Bears favored by one. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:13.080 The Wow the over under forty four and a half points. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.760 Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn on the call, Greg 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.040 that we're trying to figure out who these Cardinals are. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.480 Is this a game that helps us find that out? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.800 Yeah, this is a game I'm really looking forward to. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.440 I'm I'm snake. I'm taking it as my late game. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.440 There's something the four to twenty five games. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.040 I want to watch. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.640 Kyler Murray coming off his best game of the year. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.360 This is a guy who you would hope doesn't you know, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.040 his head doesn't get too big after getting put onto 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.120 quarterback Island. Even that was one of the best performances 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:42.640 all year. The last time he had one of the 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.760 best performances all year against the Rams, he didn't really 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.000 back it up, but this one came with more good 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.040 plays in the pocket. The matchup is going to be 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.640 really tough. We'll see if the Bears secondary gets healthier. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.760 But this is a team whose pass defense is absolutely excellent. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.040 You mentioned the hangover for the Bears. I don't think 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.079 it's gonna be a hangover, but I do think it's 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.040 gonna hurt because if you look at the schedule that 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.280 they've faced so far. Bill Barnwell pointed this out easiest 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:14.160 in the league. According to ESPN's Power Index. The schedule 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:17.880 they faced from now on hardest in the league, and 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.920 now the Cardinals are one of those hard teams because 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.280 they don't have a lot of talent defensively, but they 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.480 throw some things at you and they're very tough to 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.320 deal with that offense. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.839 Yeah, look, I think the Hail Mary thing, it's gonna 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.840 tighten things up in Chicago. I mean, the defense is 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.200 already good, but the Tyreek Stevenson bs that he pulled, 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.840 that's not gonna set it well. Everyone knows, Okay, we've 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.760 got to be about that life this week, I think 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.160 the Bears defense really gives the aero Zona Cardinals and my 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.160 guy Kyler a tough time. I think Kylee's gonna have 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.280 a pretty good game, but I just think they're gonna 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.520 be a lot more buttoned up because of that of 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.360 the way they lost, knowing that, yeah, they didn't play 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.760 great offensively, but when they had to they did Again, 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.800 I'm Caleb. To me, seems to be getting better and 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.240 better every week in terms of understanding how to play football. 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.920 I like the Bears in this game, and I like 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.080 the over under line to at forty four and a half. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.440 I got the favorite flipped in this one. It's actually 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.800 the Cardinals favored by one point at home. I think 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.479 the Kyler in question it could be Kyler Gordon, as 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.440 the Bears have been waiting to get him Anjaquan Brisker back, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.000 they've both missed a couple of games. I think that 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.200 player that makes the secondary better. Clearly, I don't believe 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.560 that that hill Mary happens. Maybe the Commanders aren't even 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.200 in that position. But the fun thing looking back at 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.800 that particular play is if the balls tipped anywhere to 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.080 the left, Terry McLaurin walks him in the end zone. Yes, 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.919 it was flayed all over the field. That it wasn't 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.680 just Tyreek Stevenson. But a fun fact for this game. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.400 Greg. Three times the Bears on the Cardinals have needed 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.520 a field goal in a go ahead or late game 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.560 situation from Chad Ryland, the discarded kicker for the New 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.960 England Patriots in the first one. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:02.719 I can't believe it. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.880 I'm watching football with Greg Rosenthal on a Sunday and 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.080 he's like, Oh, who's this kicker? Chad Ryley Oh, there's 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.600 no way. He's been nails ever since Greg. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.000 He hit a fifty seven yarder last week. He's one 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.680 of like he helped retire the greatest coach of all time, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.000 Bill Belichick. Thought Belichick will probably get another job, but 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.560 he helped Belichick lose that job, giving him a fourth 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.279 round pick. And yeah, now he's nabling it and they've 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.440 needed it. They've won three games by two or less. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.279 I hate to just be like a Vibes guy, but 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.640 when you come back from ten in San Francisco, and 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.320 then you come back from ten in the fourth quarter 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.480 again last week against Miami, I do think you get 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.560 a feeling that you can win any sort of game. 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.800 I thought the Bears came out tight in that game, Caleb. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.839 It reminded me of the first month of the season 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.200 for most of it until they got it going late. 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.080 And so if this game is close at the end. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.000 There's something about this Cardinals team that I trust, and 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.200 one of it's the pass protection. I'm kind of amazed 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.239 Kyler hasn't been sacked in three weeks. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:00.640 And the Bears are very good. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.560 Their secondary is so good when they're healthy that they've 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.080 made up for not a great pass rush for that team, 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.200 so you could probably protect Kyler again, and the. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.200 Cards get healthier on that offensive line as well. They 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.320 get more some more guys back and. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.000 You've seen that especially in James Connor's rushing totals, uh 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.760 the past couple of weeks and an offense where and 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:23.320 again finding out what this Arizona Cardinals team is like? 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.080 Can they be consistent? Is it the schedule or is 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.000 it the team. I'm excited to see and I'm fairly 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:30.880 confident it's. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.719 Gonna be a good game. It's gonna be a good game. 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.240 And maybe Shane Waldron, we'll get our god Doug Kramer, 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.800 some more carriers. Just a fun experience for all of 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.520 us involved. Watching that game on. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.799 Sunday, you're still salty about it because he put the Bears. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.279 Yeah, they didn't deserve to win that game. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.440 They were they were getting the ball, you know, the 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.400 Washington was moving the ball the whole time. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.680 Show up. I just want I just hope Kyler. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.039 Can handle the responsibility. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.000 Beat on k be on the island. That's a real deal. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.000 It would show real maturity. Three straight. They hadn't won 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.680 two straight in three years. Let's go, let's go win 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.080 three straight. I like this Cardinals team. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.080 They're fun. Let's do it a little insight who Greg's 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.280 picking are coming up tomorrow. Let's go to our next game. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.920 It is in the Cardinals Division. The Rams a two 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.800 point favorite on the road at Seattle. The Rams. Get 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.000 everybody back up. We're all on board with the Rams. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.160 Apparently forty eight is the over under Kenny Albert, Jonathan 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.080 Vilma and Meghan o'livi on the call. We got to 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.520 see the Thursday night win across the street Steve Now 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.320 with Cooper Cup and Pookinakoa Beck. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.120 It's it's all coming up. Rams. Talking about vibes you 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.680 were talking about, you know, it seems like the Rams 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.960 are that are that team at the midway point that 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.840 can get hot. Right now. You get those guys back. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.200 The offensive line played better, the run game was better. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:45.720 I mean, you get your one in, your one a 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.720 back out. Why Matthew Stafford looks like the best player 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.680 in the NFL right now. But the thing that I 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.960 I met about the Rams, every time I watch them, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.560 Jared Versu and Braydon Fisk show up. I mean, these 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.680 guys are in on every replay, whether it's past pressure, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.720 whether it's in the run game. I like these two 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.280 against the Seattle offensive line. I mean, Gino your boy, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.280 you know he's gonna have to get rid of it quick. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.440 I just I love the way those two guys consistently 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.680 Rekavoc Byron Young shows up. We know, uh, I'm blanking 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.360 the rookie defense. The second Jared ver Well the other 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:22.880 the other defensive tackle. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.600 Kobe Turner NFL Daily Guess Kobe Turner. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.960 I mean Teez Steve. I mean, I just like the 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.800 way that this front plays. I think I think the 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.280 points are close here. I think the Rams win by 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.680 by more than two. I think have more than three 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:38.480 in Seattle. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.280 Seattle is one of the hardest teams I think to 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.280 predict right now in the NFL. I don't think Mike 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.480 McDonald's defense is gonna be this bad this like forever. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.920 But they're not sound. It's not just about talent. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.000 We're talking about all these good players they have, and 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.440 they make good plays, but there are guys just out 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.240 of position. They're not setting the edge, They're missing a 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.480 lot of tackles. The teams that have done really well 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.360 against them have had a strong running game. We'll see 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.079 how the Rams are there. They've definitely been better now 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.320 that their offensive line is healthier. Kid Williams run as well. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.839 But what they've really struggled with more than anything is 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.200 their linebackers with play action passing. And I know it's 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.600 a different coach here in Seattle, but this I just 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.400 have too many Rams game where Sean McVay dices them 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.319 up with their play action passing. And so I think 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.680 if your problem is you can't handle any play action 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:27.880 and you got the Rams coming to town with a 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.680 little extra rest, yeah, I'd start I'd start remembering all 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.720 those Rams Seahawks games where they went up there and McVeigh, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:35.359 you put it on Pete Carroll. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.160 But you're neglecting speaking of middle linebackers and speaking of 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.839 the Rams, the opportunity for revenge there it is, Oh, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.080 that's it's the opportunity. Who has seen more Sean McVay 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.280 play action than Earnest up the middle. And so now 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.079 he's back, he's in Seattle, gonna go up against his 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.280 old team. My main concern for the Seahawks in this one, 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.480 other than the defense, is the offense just looked like 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.440 it had both hands topped behind its back with DK 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.400 metcalf yeah, and aside from all the calamities in the 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.160 red zone early in the game where Gino gets his 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:12.720 footstepped on and then the turnover on downs as well, 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.480 just a bad situation against the Bills. That was their 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:21.000 worst game to me in terms of execution offensively, but 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.160 without DK, I don't know. It's ultimately going to come 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:25.800 down to if DK is playing for me. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.679 I think there's some optimism that he can return this week. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.000 I'm with you. Offensively, they'll get it done. The Rams 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.000 numbers are pretty good. Our friend JB Long pointed out 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.559 since since the week four, I believe, and they made 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.320 a lot of changes in the secondary their top ten 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.120 and EPA per play, they have a lot of pressures. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.040 We saw what Jared Verse can do. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.040 Like, I don't think this is a good defense, but 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.120 I think they're probably good enough to slow down the 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.120 Seahawks a little more than vice versa. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.280 Rams are winless in three games on the road, though, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.480 so this is a big test because we know how 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.880 tough it is a loom and field where the Seahawks 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.520 have a losing record at home. How about that that 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.280 used to be just like the most intimidating place in 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.720 the NFL they have. 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.280 They even won a game. Yeah, they won a game. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.360 Yeah, I don't I don't know if I also like, 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.880 I want to see Pooker and Pooka and Cooper Cup 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.880 back in full flow for another week, but before just 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.679 like assuming the Rams are back, maybe I should. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:20.080 Just assumed it. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.040 You didn't see I saw it. I was there. 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.120 I'm just saying, like, I want to see it more week. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.240 Some of the offensive line issues they were worried about 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.600 coming into the season in theory could still be there 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.080 against talented passbushers. Now, they played very well against Minnesota. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:35.640 That was the thing that stood out to be most 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.679 live is that their offensive line kind of dominated that game. Yeah, 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.840 after getting getting a lot of grief the first month. 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.800 Of the year, and Watson highlights a quick game. You know, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.120 even though you're seeing this intermediate stuff, and then Pooka 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.800 and Cupp are such so good and tough run after 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.680 the catch. They keep that up. They can do that 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.839 against this defense and move the ball and then give 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.439 it to Kyra and the intel because all he does 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.280 is score touchdowns. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.680 It's a it's a huge game here with them both 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.719 having four loss. I guess every all these NFC West 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.400 cons that they're they're so close. I assume the Rams 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.240 wouldn't become sellers suddenly if they lose this game. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:07.080 It doesn't make sense. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.400 Yeah, that conversation seemed a little forest for trees for me. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.160 I mean, the idea that the Rams would come sellers 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.120 with all this talent. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.680 I think at the very least Gina will show us 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:21.840 if the secondary issues in the Rams, if they were solved. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.880 I think that was a games the Minnesota Vikings where the. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.000 Vikings have, of course the talent to exploit some issues 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.400 in the secondary, but they really weren't able to take 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:30.960 advantage of. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.680 And like, are the Rams a team that can just 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.400 push around opponents physically? And or Seattle take the challenge 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.080 of what last week? If you didn't watch the end 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.679 of that game, I thought it was one of the 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:47.360 most embarrassing stretches that a defense had all season. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.240 Buffalo is just like we you know we're gonna run, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.200 We're gonna run. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.960 We're in your building and Keon Coleman and they're wide 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.080 receivers are knocking them over in the running game and 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.959 James Cook is running right through them. I was, dang man, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.840 they are just getting made to look like kind of 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:03.880 a man. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.240 Attitude is a dangerous drug. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.960 Ken Coleman's got out of added Yeah, and a lot 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.440 of I mean that was his best game last week. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.600 A lot of in rhythm type of throws, not just 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.480 like the improvised plays that they had a week before. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:16.079 He was really good. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.120 Yeah, one hundred and ninety five yards his last two 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:23.480 games for Keyon Coleman. Let's go to the AFC. The 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.520 Los Angeles Chargers a two point favorite on the road 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.400 against Jameis Winston the Nerve and the Cleveland Browns, who 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:31.959 now to win. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.760 Last week scored over twenty points for the first time 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.600 in the twenty twenty four season, over undersitting at forty 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.319 three Spureau DTIs Adam Archiletta and A D D. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:45.160 Kika Walla. Our friend on the call, Steve are are 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.680 we believers in the Jamis edition of the Browns? Not 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.000 against the Chargers, I mean the Chargers defense. It could 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.400 be getting Joey Bosa back. I mean they're locking teams down. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.640 I don't care who they're playing there. They're so sound 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.120 in what they do. Their offense is also in addition 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.199 to their defense because as they do control the ball, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.520 we know justin Herbert Island. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.800 Yeah, Island, those are the two new residents. I don't 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.360 know if you've caught up on your program. I mean 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.000 here Patrick rightfully, Herbert and Kyler, two of the most 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.680 fun to watch our are on. Well, one of your guys, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.600 Dac had to it's just been a tough year. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.960 It's understandable. Yeah, but I mean, I just the Charges 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.440 are our team. I mean, look, they've been in the playoffs. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.760 Right now, we're not talking about them because they don't 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.560 score a lot of points. But Cleveland we'll see. I 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.280 mean they looked real functional with Jamis driving down the ball, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.560 driving the ball down the field. It opened up things. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.520 The defense played better. I think the Browns, you know, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.400 j Okay's not in there. That guy is such an 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.080 important part of what they do and be such an 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:48.200 important part. And trying to slow down this impenetrable three 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.840 yards and a cloud of dust offense. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.720 They need to get their running game going. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.080 Chargers though it's been off more times than not after 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.120 those first couple of weeks where it was mostly JK. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.960 Dobbins just popping a couple like long runs. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.840 Because the Chargers don't make sense to me if they 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.640 don't have a good running game. They're getting they're getting 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:11.000 carried Zadarius Smith some news on Wednesday, and maybe this 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.400 will be updated by the time, like the week is out. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.440 Certainly he just wasn't at practice and no one is 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.680 sure why. So you were talking about players, it is 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.720 not showing up for games. Deonta Johnson, by the way, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.200 did not play for the Panthers last week. That kind 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.920 of registered after the fact. It was like, huh, what 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.160 if the Browns won this game, though they actually are 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.160 high on the list of teams. To me, that might 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.200 change their approach if they happened to win this game. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.200 Because if he won two in a row with Jamis 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.120 Winston and then he traded Zadaria Smith two days later, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:42.960 what does that say to your fan? I mean that 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.000 that's a pretty big middle finger to your fans and 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.200 your team for it. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.880 That's what I'm saying. Who they seen them, I get it, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.120 That's what I mean. That's what I mean. So that 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.400 makes it even a bigger game. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.440 I do think there was a clear before and after 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.280 in the game against the Ravens when Jeremiah Lusu Cormoa 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.720 got hurt and what he does, especially on the edge 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.160 and around the ball for the for the Cleveland Browns 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.960 where the Ravens were able to get sustained drives. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.960 And I understand, you know, catching the ball helps in that, but. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.520 But it's the difference, and I think he makes a 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.800 huge difference in defending uh this run game and also 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.840 the other's part where I do believe in Clifton, I. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.040 Think that was a bad Jamis game. I think Jameis 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.160 Winston can play a whole lot better than he did 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.560 against Let's go, let's get Jamis on the island. I 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.880 don't know, we're not necessarily there. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.920 He was going downfield, he was being aggressive. I know 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.120 he could have been picked off two or three times, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:40.320 but that's that's famous. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.800 But but the difference I think in the typical Jamis 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.880 interceptions where he's taking shots, he's taking chances, those were 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.560 those were just bad throws, like Jamis made some bad 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.000 throws against against the Baltimore Ravens. That if he gets 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.320 those figured out, and this Chargers team isn't necessarily scoring 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.400 a whole lot of points, I think there's a legitimate. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.640 And I thought the Browns defense didn't look right the 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.280 first month of the season. They've played well since then, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.040 so they're kind of back to being the Browns defense 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.920 we expected. I'm interested to see this Chargers defense. Joey 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.879 Bosa did return last week, but he didn't really play 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.160 that that much and was very quiet unlike his brother 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:23.040 after the game. But I did notice that, like they 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:24.280 are getting a lot of good production. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.320 This is good coaching. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.080 You have to give them a lot of credit Jesse 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.240 Mint or Jim Harbaugh what they've done. They've taken a 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:35.320 lot of rookies. Last week they had Cam Hart in Tarheeds. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.399 Still have you heard of these young gentlemen, middle round 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:43.160 rookies playing cornerback for them and playing well, like playing 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.639 well enough. Christian Fulton has got injured during that game. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.200 Then they've taken guys from other teams that weren't playing 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.560 well Puna Ford, Christian Fulton, t R. Tart and they're 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.920 all being very productive. That to me is like the 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.800 number one side of good coach. If you can take 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.840 other guys other teams, guys that weren't really playing well 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.159 for them, and suddenly you find a good role for 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.040 them and they're integrating these rookies in like that's that's 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.200 a really well coached team. It's a good rookie class too, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.280 with Alton McConkie, Like they're really building something. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.040 And you know, to that point, you look what they've 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.800 done in Washington and in Denver. They've got mutts, right, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.800 They've taken guys who other teams didn't want and they 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.360 and defensively they're leading their team. So that's a really 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:22.960 good point something to keep an eye on for some 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:24.840 future podcast your discussions. 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.200 I'm also, by the way, I'm not picking against Herbo 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.440 right now. Read the moment I decide I'm not picking 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.119