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Speaker 1: Well THEO the NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook,

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Speaker 1: where we would never dress our kid as the Rizzler

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Speaker 1: for Halloween. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: Steve Weiss is back for a doubleheader week from Weiss

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Claybon is here.

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Speaker 2: It's the week nine preview.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it.

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Speaker 4: Let's get it Week nine as we start in Germany

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Speaker 4: on Sunday, looking forward to that halfway point, not this week,

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Speaker 4: next week, not next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think so. Colleen

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Speaker 1: hasn't left us yet. She's gonna actually do a half

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Speaker 1: an episode that'll be our trade Deadline Day spectacular with Colleen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's left a trade.

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Speaker 2: It's true. I love it. I've been asking for this

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Speaker 2: for years.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the NFL did it to appease me,

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Speaker 1: but I've been asking for them to push back the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline that happened, and I've been wanting us as

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Speaker 1: the NFL to be a little more.

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Speaker 2: Like the NBA.

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Speaker 1: They get such good podcast mileage of talking possible trades

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Speaker 1: all season long, Like why can't we have that?

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Speaker 2: And we have that now?

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Speaker 3: We have it. We have it now. Now it's kind

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Speaker 3: of like, is the NFL going to become the NBA

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Speaker 3: where it's like the haves and have nots by the

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Speaker 3: midway point? Are we going to sit? Are we gonna

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Speaker 3: top load the league?

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Speaker 1: It's a big week for that because there are ten

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Speaker 1: teams in the league that have two wins or less.

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Speaker 1: So if you get a win this week, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: not as big a seller. But if you're one of

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Speaker 1: those ten teams and you don't get a win, maybe

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Speaker 1: that'll make our show next week even better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you some time to make a decision.

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Speaker 4: Perhaps there's a couple of general managers out there who

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Speaker 4: are watching. Maybe some guys that we expect to play

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Speaker 4: they'll be shipped out coming up before Tuesday's deadline. The

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Speaker 4: most significant event happening next Tuesday, and these ustatos unidos.

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Speaker 4: Let's start guys going smallest to biggest spread this week,

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Speaker 4: and we'll begin with the Chicago Bears. Is there a

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Speaker 4: Hail Mary hangover going on the road to the Desert?

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Speaker 4: Take on the Arizona Cardinals, The Bears favored by one.

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Speaker 4: The Wow the over under forty four and a half points.

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Speaker 4: Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn on the call, Greg

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Speaker 4: that we're trying to figure out who these Cardinals are.

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Speaker 3: Is this a game that helps us find that out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a game I'm really looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm snake. I'm taking it as my late game.

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Speaker 1: There's something the four to twenty five games.

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Speaker 2: I want to watch.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray coming off his best game of the year.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who you would hope doesn't you know,

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Speaker 1: his head doesn't get too big after getting put onto

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Speaker 1: quarterback Island. Even that was one of the best performances

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Speaker 1: best performances all year against the Rams, he didn't really

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Speaker 1: back it up, but this one came with more good

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Speaker 1: plays in the pocket. The matchup is going to be

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Speaker 1: really tough. We'll see if the Bears secondary gets healthier.

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Speaker 1: But this is a team whose pass defense is absolutely excellent.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the hangover for the Bears. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hangover, but I do think it's

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Speaker 1: they've faced so far. Bill Barnwell pointed this out easiest

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Speaker 1: in the league. According to ESPN's Power Index. The schedule

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Speaker 1: they faced from now on hardest in the league, and

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Speaker 1: now the Cardinals are one of those hard teams because

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of talent defensively, but they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think the Hail Mary thing, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: got to be about that life this week, I think

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Speaker 3: the Bears defense really gives the aero Zona Cardinals and my

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Speaker 3: the way they lost, knowing that, yeah, they didn't play

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Speaker 3: I'm Caleb. To me, seems to be getting better and

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Speaker 3: I like the Bears in this game, and I like

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Speaker 4: I got the favorite flipped in this one. It's actually

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals favored by one point at home. I think

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Speaker 4: the Kyler in question it could be Kyler Gordon, as

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Speaker 4: the Bears have been waiting to get him Anjaquan Brisker back,

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Speaker 4: that particular play is if the balls tipped anywhere to

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Speaker 4: it was flayed all over the field. That it wasn't

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Speaker 3: Greg. Three times the Bears on the Cardinals have needed

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching football with Greg Rosenthal on a Sunday and

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Speaker 4: he's like, Oh, who's this kicker? Chad Ryley Oh, there's

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Speaker 4: no way. He's been nails ever since Greg.

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Speaker 1: He hit a fifty seven yarder last week. He's one

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Speaker 1: of like he helped retire the greatest coach of all time,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Thought Belichick will probably get another job, but

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Speaker 1: he helped Belichick lose that job, giving him a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick. And yeah, now he's nabling it and they've

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Speaker 1: needed it. They've won three games by two or less.

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Speaker 1: I hate to just be like a Vibes guy, but

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Speaker 1: I thought the Bears came out tight in that game, Caleb.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of the first month of the season

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Speaker 2: And so if this game is close at the end.

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Speaker 1: There's something about this Cardinals team that I trust, and

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Speaker 1: one of it's the pass protection. I'm kind of amazed

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Speaker 1: Kyler hasn't been sacked in three weeks.

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Speaker 2: And the Bears are very good.

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Speaker 1: Their secondary is so good when they're healthy that they've

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Speaker 3: Cards get healthier on that offensive line as well. They

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Speaker 4: You've seen that especially in James Connor's rushing totals, uh

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Speaker 4: again finding out what this Arizona Cardinals team is like?

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Speaker 4: Can they be consistent? Is it the schedule or is

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Speaker 4: it the team. I'm excited to see and I'm fairly

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a good game. It's gonna be a good game.

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Speaker 4: And maybe Shane Waldron, we'll get our god Doug Kramer,

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Speaker 4: some more carriers. Just a fun experience for all of

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Speaker 1: Sunday, you're still salty about it because he put the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't deserve to win that game.

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Speaker 1: They were they were getting the ball, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Washington was moving the ball the whole time.

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Speaker 2: Show up. I just want I just hope Kyler.

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Speaker 1: Can handle the responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Beat on k be on the island. That's a real deal.

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Speaker 1: It would show real maturity. Three straight. They hadn't won

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Speaker 1: two straight in three years. Let's go, let's go win

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Speaker 1: three straight. I like this Cardinals team.

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Speaker 3: They're fun. Let's do it a little insight who Greg's

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Speaker 3: picking are coming up tomorrow. Let's go to our next game.

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Speaker 3: It is in the Cardinals Division. The Rams a two

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Speaker 3: point favorite on the road at Seattle. The Rams. Get

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Speaker 3: everybody back up. We're all on board with the Rams.

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Speaker 4: Apparently forty eight is the over under Kenny Albert, Jonathan

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Speaker 4: see the Thursday night win across the street Steve Now

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Speaker 3: It's it's all coming up. Rams. Talking about vibes you

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Speaker 3: were talking about, you know, it seems like the Rams

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Speaker 3: The offensive line played better, the run game was better.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get your one in, your one a

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Speaker 3: back out. Why Matthew Stafford looks like the best player

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Speaker 3: Jared Versu and Braydon Fisk show up. I mean, these

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Speaker 3: I just I love the way those two guys consistently

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Speaker 3: Rekavoc Byron Young shows up. We know, uh, I'm blanking

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Speaker 3: I mean Teez Steve. I mean, I just like the

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Speaker 1: Seattle is one of the hardest teams I think to

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Speaker 1: predict right now in the NFL. I don't think Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald's defense is gonna be this bad this like forever.

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Speaker 2: But they're not sound. It's not just about talent.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about all these good players they have, and

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Speaker 1: they make good plays, but there are guys just out

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Speaker 1: of position. They're not setting the edge, They're missing a

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Speaker 1: how the Rams are there. They've definitely been better now

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Speaker 1: But what they've really struggled with more than anything is

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Speaker 1: have too many Rams game where Sean McVay dices them

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Speaker 1: if your problem is you can't handle any play action

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Speaker 1: little extra rest, yeah, I'd start I'd start remembering all

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Speaker 1: those Rams Seahawks games where they went up there and McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: you put it on Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 4: But you're neglecting speaking of middle linebackers and speaking of

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Speaker 4: the Rams, the opportunity for revenge there it is, Oh,

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Speaker 4: that's it's the opportunity. Who has seen more Sean McVay

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Speaker 4: play action than Earnest up the middle. And so now

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Speaker 4: he's back, he's in Seattle, gonna go up against his

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Speaker 4: Every once in a while he reminds them just how

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Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown, then Stefan Diggs before he

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Speaker 1: got her Marvin Harrison Junior like he's killing it. You

436
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Speaker 1: got Drake Lennon producing, you got Kyle Pitts producing, It's

437
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Speaker 1: all happening. There was a stat from next Gen Darnell

438
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Speaker 1: Mooney has run more yards on the field than any

439
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Speaker 1: receiver in the league this year. So he's out there.

440
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Speaker 1: He's not just getting cardio. He's working. That's what a

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Speaker 1: two lane man does.

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Speaker 3: He shout out to that two lane conditioning. This is

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Speaker 3: where I think when people look at the Falcons, that's

444
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Speaker 3: how come the points are like this, Like they eat

445
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Speaker 3: against the Buccaneers, they eat against a division and then

446
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Speaker 3: they kind of and at home they're not.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys are a bad team and the Falcons

449
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Speaker 1: are average. If you want to say they're average, that's

450
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Speaker 1: a different.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's where. Here's where I think the Falcons will

452
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Speaker 3: do this and well at least talked about dudes. He's

453
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Speaker 3: born out as Jesse Bates, right, and we know he's

454
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Speaker 3: going to be in that slide. He keep doing stuff

455
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Speaker 3: to help out on CD LAMB and what this guy

456
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Speaker 3: is doing with the takeaways, he's everywhere. Jesse Bates is

457
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Speaker 3: in every defensive frame of the show. And so I

458
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Speaker 3: think he's going to be causing problems. Maybe get gets

459
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Speaker 3: one from dak you know, Kirk o Chains, who we

460
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Speaker 3: didn't get on the island. I'm a little I'm still

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Speaker 3: a little hot about.

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Speaker 2: That me too. I agreed with you on that. How

463
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Speaker 2: did that?

464
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Speaker 3: I sold out? I sold out? Everybody is a believer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he was.

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Speaker 1: He made an alliance to help get Kyler on. It

467
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Speaker 1: was just a whole feel bad about the whole problem Stafford.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't fault Stafford. Yeah, I think kirk

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Speaker 1: Go has been more.

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Speaker 3: But I also I also think this is the type

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Speaker 3: of game too where the Falcons where Bajon and Tyler

472
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Speaker 3: Algier to start to pound the ball and eat up clock,

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Speaker 3: get s game over quickly, get Jerry, you know, to

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Speaker 3: douce on his coach a little bit more. Well, I

475
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Speaker 3: think one thing that hurts is for Jerry Jones, specifically

476
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Speaker 3: to look over in the division and seeing Washington Commander's

477
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Speaker 3: defense that at the start of the season was doing

478
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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. And now is the defense that that we

479
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Speaker 3: see right in week six, seven and eight. Who's leading

480
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Speaker 3: that defense? Well, that would be the former defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboys, who also had them number one

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Speaker 3: in the league in quick pressures. And I understands there's

483
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Speaker 3: been injuries, we've been missing Tank and Micah Parsons. But

484
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Speaker 3: twenty four point two percent quick pressure last year, fourteen

485
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Speaker 3: percent quick pressure this year, twenty first in the league.

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Speaker 3: We've discussed it extensively, their inability or non desire.

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Speaker 4: To run the football. I think it's a little bit

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Speaker 4: of Column A and a little bit of Colin B.

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Speaker 4: But the point again that we're we're in year seventeen

490
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Speaker 4: talking about this with the Atlanta Falcons is getting pressure

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Speaker 4: on the quarterback. And if you can't get pressure on deck,

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Speaker 4: then then he can get seventeen targets to ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 4: Get you a few points and we'll see if this

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Speaker 4: defense can muster something. But it's tough to imagine that

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Speaker 4: they do.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like Jason John Abraham still haunt.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, but that was We always used to talk

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Speaker 1: about that around the NFL, that the Jets have it

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Speaker 1: at a pass rusher since John Abraham.

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Speaker 2: But it's true about the Falcons too.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know if he's got to get

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Speaker 1: any Hall of Fame consideration, but that would just not

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Speaker 1: that that would be a good Yes, this is what

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Speaker 1: the Dallas offensive line needs. Yes, is playing this. But

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Speaker 1: the Dallas defense, they've given up the second most points

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Speaker 1: in the league. They are dead last and red zone percentage,

508
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Speaker 1: and they are bottom in turnover margin. It's just a

509
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Speaker 1: lot of bad things. Their next games after this week,

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Speaker 1: if they don't win Philadelphia, Houston and at Washington, it

511
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Speaker 1: does not get easier for the Cowboys. So it is

512
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Speaker 1: an important game for Mike McCarthy and yeah, the Falcons

513
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Speaker 1: could make some distance there in the NFC South with

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Speaker 1: the win.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we're just getting started here.

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Speaker 1: On the Week nine preview, We're gonna take a quick

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Speaker 1: break and we're coming back. That's what I'm gonna call

518
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Speaker 1: the game of the week, the game of the year

519
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Speaker 1: so far back on NFL Daily. Yeah, this is the

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Speaker 1: week that Greg Olsen gets the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We got Tom Brady on the Game of the week

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Speaker 2: Green Bade Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time for the Game of the Week presented

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Speaker 4: by Draft Game. It is the Detroit Lions on the

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Speaker 4: road at Green Bay. The first time that Jared Golf

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Speaker 4: has played outside in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: The over under forty eight and a half, Kevin Burkhart,

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Speaker 4: some dude named Tom Brady, Aaron Andrews, and Tom Rinaldi

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Speaker 4: on the call, Greg, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think the fourteen games indoors, by the way, I

532
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Speaker 3: have thirteen or four. It's a lot.

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Speaker 4: My friend Adam Mik always says that Jared Golf is

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Speaker 4: an indoor cat.

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Speaker 3: We'll get a chance to see if he can shake

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Speaker 3: that and get a win in Lambeau.

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Speaker 1: Do you see it happening, Greg, Yes, if Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: doesn't play, you'd feel even better about it. I think

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Speaker 1: that informed the line at this point of the week.

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Speaker 1: It could change. Jordan Love did not practice on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: but he said it was realistic that he could play

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Those groin injuries are tricky. Whether he could

543
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Speaker 1: take like a shot to numb the pain. It's tough

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Speaker 1: because you know you would think you kind of you

545
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Speaker 1: need you need to be able to tork it. You

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Speaker 1: know you need to make it happen to throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: And as good as Malik Willis has been this year,

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Speaker 1: I think I think you need everyone to beat one

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Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: If Malik Willis is out there, or if it's Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is key. He's now not only been breaking tackles,

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Speaker 1: I think he has the most yards after contact in

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Speaker 1: the entire league. He's starting to make big plays again

555
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Speaker 1: like he did in his best years with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: He is in the top ten of rush yards over expected.

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Speaker 1: This is a really good run scheme, like Lafleur knows

558
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Speaker 1: how to scheme it up. I think the offensive line

559
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Speaker 1: is very cohesive. Jacobs is part of the running back

560
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Speaker 1: matter brigade of all these guys who changed teams this

561
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Speaker 1: offseason and really impacting going up against a team that

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Speaker 1: believed in changing their running back so much they made it,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, the centerpiece of their offseason, Jamior Gibbs and

564
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Speaker 1: David Montgomery, when Dave Dan Campbell got there, and look

565
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Speaker 1: at all the benefits that it's had.

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Speaker 2: So this is an old school game. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: If Jordan Loves out there, I might flip my pick there.

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Speaker 3: Oh fifty five degrees eighty nine chance of raining Sunday

569
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Speaker 3: in Green Bay, Wisconsin. So Jared goff in those elements, Patrick,

570
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Speaker 3: that is something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: Oh it really is it? Really is it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. At this point.

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Speaker 1: His last game for the Rams was in Green Bay

574
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Speaker 1: in the elements, and that that helped send him home.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I go, well, I remember, right, I just remember.

576
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Speaker 1: I remember the disgusted looks of Sean McVay on the sideline,

577
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Speaker 1: was like, let's have a little more of a poker

578
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Speaker 1: face here if how much you don't like your quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: A great game for Jared Goff because they got him

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Speaker 3: in this.

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Speaker 1: Situation, okay, fair, sorry, absolutely, God bless the broken road.

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Speaker 3: And he's got Dave mcgomery back come up throwing the ball.

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Speaker 3: So I so you know you talk about Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 3: I just that tandem they have in Detroit in that

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Speaker 3: offensive line, I think elements are not when I when

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Speaker 3: I watch tape of the Lions, it is so incredible

587
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Speaker 3: how Panay School sticks out as the best player on

588
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Speaker 3: the field. That guy is so dominant. If you look

589
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Speaker 3: at number fifty eight to right tackle on some of

590
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Speaker 3: these plays, look at he's just wheeling guys, He's taking

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Speaker 3: him and wheel him and open up these run lanes.

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Speaker 3: And that's why the conditions are not. I like the

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Speaker 3: Lions in this game because they're O line not not

594
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Speaker 3: the most dominant left side, but center to the right.

595
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Speaker 3: They can do it. So I like Detroit in this

596
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Speaker 3: what are the points at three and a half? Wooh

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Speaker 3: ted points right there.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a Malik Willis line. So we'll see, okay,

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Speaker 1: but we just don't know. Yeah, at this point, probably

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Speaker 1: it seems like one maybe they'll take all the way

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Speaker 1: to Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We saw Jordan Love on the bike on Wednesday at practice. Again,

603
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Speaker 4: as Greg said, we're just gonna have to find out.

604
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Speaker 4: But I think the place that we do know right regardless,

605
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 4: like Jared Goff in the elements, notwithstanding Kirby Joseph and

606
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Speaker 4: Brian Branch in safety from the Williams right now have an.

607
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Speaker 3: Entire part of the field on clamps.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they do the tight end scoring Like I just

609
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Speaker 4: did this for Fantasy Live, trying to figure out where

610
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Speaker 4: why are they're so successful against tight ends. Two of

611
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Speaker 4: the top tight ends in the league this year in

612
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Speaker 4: Caate Otton as well as Trey McBride, totaled three catches

613
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Speaker 4: for twenty three yards, both of them combined against the

614
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Speaker 4: last great stuff thin like Terry on Arnold is playing better.

615
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Speaker 4: We saw him get all those faculties, but just up

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Speaker 4: the middle and through. I think it makes a tough

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Speaker 4: situation because Tucker Craft is a big part of this offense. YEP,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Malik Willis or Jordan Love. I like the

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Speaker 4: line Herbie Joseph's a hell of a player.

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Speaker 1: Many shout out to Tucker Craft of like steal and

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Speaker 1: Sam ports Thunder a little bit in this division as

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Speaker 1: just like the tight end rumbling down.

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Speaker 2: The field second year player. Just they've been both great

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love's numbers against man coverage are like bizarre to me.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised when I saw this. NFL Pro had

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Speaker 1: put this out. Four point three yards per attempt against

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Speaker 1: man coverage. Just has been terrible against man coverage this year.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Lions like to do more than any

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Speaker 1: other team.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The thing I do worry about with the Lions, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's totally showed up yet in the

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Speaker 1: box scores, is their pass rush really is bad, not good,

635
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Speaker 1: and so they're gonna need to blitz to create pressure

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Speaker 1: and that it leaves the one on ones. And I

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Speaker 1: guess those numbers say Jordan Love hasn't been great against

638
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: man on coverage, but he's got some great receivers, don't.

639
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Speaker 1: I think that is not gonna last. And so these

640
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks just by the numbers, are so different against pressure.

641
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Jared Goff has been outstanding against pressure, and the Packers

642
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: aren't getting a lot of pressure. You know, Kenny Clark, Comedy,

643
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Speaker 1: QB hits and saxy as this year, Big Fat zero

644
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Speaker 1: On Bold and Rashan Gary barely has any production either.

645
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Speaker 1: It's really surprising how they've manufactured a good defense despite

646
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: that a lot of turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Still trying to figure out some of the schematics and

648
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: things like that, because those two players are so good.

649
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Speaker 4: Edwin Cooper did get that win against the Jags and

650
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Speaker 4: get the strip sacked that ultimately I think won.

651
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Speaker 3: The Gameout out to his parents for sampling Edgeron. Wait, what,

652
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Speaker 3: there's not too be the Edgeurans in this world, right.

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Speaker 2: It's a fair point. You think they were inspired by James.

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Speaker 3: Yes, just like you know, there's whole lot of Sequilles

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Speaker 3: and you know today's generation and there weren't many when

656
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Speaker 3: I was growing up before that. Guy O'Neill, Well, you

657
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Speaker 3: know this, the Packers edge is really going to have

658
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Speaker 3: to step it up if in twenty years we want

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Speaker 3: to keep it going.

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Speaker 1: It's like my son asked me, like, why are there

661
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Speaker 1: so many professional athletes named Jalen? And I said, well, Son, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to tell you about this college basketball

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's why I don't know Jordans.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of Jordan's in this world. I like that.

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Speaker 3: Love that.

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Speaker 3: From Jayalen to Jaden Daniels as his Washington Commander's three

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Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez and Christina pink on the call the Washington

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Speaker 3: Commanders coming off of the big emotional win they get

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Speaker 3: their quarterback back. Is there a spot, Steve, where you

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Speaker 3: see the Giants making I think they could. When I

680
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Speaker 3: watched that game the other night against Pittsburgh, I thought

681
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 3: they played a pretty damn good game. People all over

682
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. I thought Brian Daywall called a really good

683
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: game with some of the screens using the Steelers aggression

684
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Speaker 3: against him. Just all the dumb penalties then the late takeaways.

685
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is not the record, is what they

686
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: are because of things like that. But you know they're

687
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: not a calamity of a of a football team, right.

688
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: But something about this Commanders we're seeing the Giants are

689
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: owned Ford home. The Commanders are feeling really good, and

690
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: I like the way they're Their defense is tightened up

691
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: with Joe Witt. I know we talked about Dan Quinn,

692
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Speaker 3: but Joe Whitt is a guy who's scheming up this

693
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Speaker 3: defense and the fact that he's taken again. I talked

694
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Speaker 3: about some mutts, some used parts from other teams and

695
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: put them together, showing a light on Frankie Louvluvu, who

696
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: was actually shining a light on everybody else and got

697
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: in the secondary to play pretty well. When they know

698
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Speaker 3: that that's I mean, their first pick next year is

699
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Speaker 3: gonna be somebody in that defensive backfield. I liked them

700
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Speaker 3: in this game. I think he keeps going to Washington.

701
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: I think the defense needs to be talked about almost

702
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: as much as the quarterback.

703
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have some numbers on that for you. And

704
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: this is from next Greg's stats right here. This is

705
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Speaker 1: like me putting in the components into the into the

706
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Speaker 1: programming a next Gen sets. They are second in EPA

707
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Speaker 1: for play since week four, a pretty long sample side,

708
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: so throughout their first three weeks where they were dead

709
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: last in just about everything. And I'm thinking, okay, one

710
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: of the things I believe in defenses is the schedule

711
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Speaker 1: you've played is probably the most important factor in how

712
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Speaker 1: you're ranked. It's like, when you play good offenses, you

713
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: don't do as well. When you play bad offenses, you

714
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: do better. But they have a couple of good offenses

715
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Speaker 1: in that stretch. They played Arizona very well. They played

716
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: Baltimore and they gave up a lot of yards, but

717
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: they did force some turnovers in that game, which which

718
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: helps what they're doing. Twelfth and success rate so on

719
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: a play to play basis not as good, but better

720
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: than average, and fourth in points allowed, which is the

721
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: most important stat of them. Also, that's a long stretch

722
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Speaker 1: where they've figured some things out with a new scheme.

723
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Speaker 1: This is a great litmus test because remember this matchup

724
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: in Week two was the most dominant offensive performance in

725
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: like a twenty one to eighteen game that you've ever

726
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: seen from these two teams.

727
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Speaker 2: And there was barely any puns.

728
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Speaker 1: Both teams just went up and down the field, and

729
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Speaker 1: yet it finished twenty one eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Little insider information talk about the defense, they basically just

731
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: pared it down. First couple of weeks. They were asking

732
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: the guys, especially in the secondary, to do a whole lot.

733
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Speaker 3: They're like, you know what, We're gonna let you play football,

734
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Speaker 3: sinkers win, and that's that's where guys who've gained some confidence.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Newton a guy I liked a lot in the

736
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Speaker 1: draft process. Everything I heard about him, every thing I

737
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Speaker 1: saw as a potential real difference maker. And he was

738
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Speaker 1: hurt to start the year, but he started playing very well,

739
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Speaker 1: which has helped make up for Jonathan Allen being out

740
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Speaker 1: for the year.

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Speaker 4: I have to look at this Giants defense, especially in

742
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Speaker 4: the run game with Brian Robinson coming to town as

743
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: well as Jay Woo. Where on the edges Najie Harris

744
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: had so much space to run to where And I

745
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: know that between Burns and Thibodeau that they want to

746
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: get after the passer. But it's not like the Steelers

747
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: were gonna drop back and throw the ball four to

748
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Speaker 4: fifty times.

749
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Speaker 3: They just seemed ill prepared. And now they're going to

750
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Speaker 3: be in conflict with Jaden Daniels at the mesh point,

751
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: and it's a lot to think about. I think this

752
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Speaker 3: may be an easy win for the Why I know,

753
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: well it won't. It won't be. It won't be easy.

754
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: But to your point, Patrick, watching that game, like in

755
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: the first half, the Giants defensive ends, we're just they're

756
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: doing that upfield rush like like the Rams used to

757
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: to rush back when rush was mobile. Like, No, just

758
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: don't get so far upfield and keep your eyes on

759
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: the court. They just opened up lanes for Nase and

760
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren all night long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they might not have Tyrone Tracy, who had a

762
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: concussion on Monday night lost. I think that Andrew thomas

763
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Speaker 1: injury was just one that this Giants team in particular

764
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Speaker 1: couldn't afford. So that it's to me, it's two different

765
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: teams in week two, So I'm with I'm with Patrick, Heck,

766
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I almost want to maybe change gears. We talked about

767
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Speaker 1: potentially doing a Survivor pick. Later on in the show,

768
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Speaker 1: do we want to get a little bolder and go

769
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Speaker 1: commandos on the road?

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think?

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Speaker 3: I'm down. Let's do it. Let's be bold, let's let's

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Speaker 3: be a little bolder man. They go to if they win,

773
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Speaker 3: they go to seven and two. I love that. Just

774
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Speaker 3: throw the planet.

775
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Speaker 1: I just was feeling it as we're talking, talking it out.

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Speaker 1: We can let you know later in the show.

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Speaker 3: Do you Q the Coach of the Year right now? Oh?

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't.

779
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Speaker 3: Plus, I'm with it all right, congrats to DQ in

780
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 3: the midway Coach of the Year. Campbell's just like, ah,

781
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: what do I gotta do?

782
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Speaker 2: We are in a little role here with the Survivor picks.

783
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Speaker 3: Let's good, a little bit of a role. I like it.

784
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: And we're we and we go risky here, and I

785
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Speaker 3: like that. I like that.

786
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Speaker 4: You want risk We could have taken this next game

787
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Speaker 4: coming up, the Survivor po risky either way.

788
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Speaker 3: The New England Patriots against the Tennessee Titans, a three

789
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite at home. Are the Titans

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Speaker 3: Coach Callahan said, they're going to see what Will Levis

791
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Speaker 3: is like and how he feels this week, Greg, does

792
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Speaker 3: that move you one way or the other?

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Speaker 1: No, I think the Patriots would have a better chance

794
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Speaker 1: probably if we'll Levis starts right when you said we

795
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Speaker 1: were talking about which survivor picks, you know, and during

796
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Speaker 1: the break and you were like, well, how about Titans Patriots?

797
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking which side are you?

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Speaker 3: Even?

799
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Speaker 2: You're on the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: The Patriots as thunderdogs, now that I'm not going that far,

801
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: but I think I'll pick them.

802
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: It what wouldn't you? I don't know in a game

803
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Speaker 3: like this, who's who's got the best quarterback? New England

804
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: Drake May is the best quarterback in this game?

805
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: You don't know for sure he's playing.

806
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: Although it sounded like he was in stage three of

807
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: the concussion protocol.

808
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: He was practicing on a limited basis. Yeah, usually a

809
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: good sign.

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00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: That's the phase, and usually on Thursday, if you're in

811
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Speaker 3: that phase, I you know, look, I think he's gonna play.

812
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: And with ramondre Stevenson run the ball. And we thought

813
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: Tennessee was gonna was gonna buckle up, and they just

814
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: got dragged by the Lions and they might be doing

815
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Speaker 3: some little Anthony Richards and stuff going on.

816
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Speaker 2: Now they've played the Bills in the Lions.

817
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Speaker 1: But they've their defense, which was supposed to be tough,

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of tapped out in the last six quarters.

819
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Speaker 2: But it's tough when your offense isn't doing anything.

820
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, guess what what makes you think that?

821
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Speaker 4: I mean the offense with Mason Rudolph throwing to Calvin Ridley.

822
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: Greg got some yards in a thirty five five point game.

823
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Speaker 4: Yeah no, but in a nineteen twenty three point game,

824
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: they can make plain.

825
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna put Christiana Jalis on him, give some help

826
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Speaker 3: and dear anybody else on Tennessee to do anything.

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Speaker 1: A two game winning streak for this Patriots team. And yeah,

828
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Speaker 1: this is one of the handful of games this week

829
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Speaker 1: that feel like it's too early in the season.

830
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Speaker 2: For these types of games.

831
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Speaker 1: Usually you get to like week fifteen to sixteen, we're

832
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: doing the previews. There aren't a lot of buys like

833
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: we want to save some times just kind of speed

834
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Speaker 1: through it two or three minutes. There's like a couple

835
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Speaker 1: of those games this week. I mean, I'm still into

836
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Speaker 1: it because of Drake May He makes everything very watchable.

837
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Speaker 1: He's really playing it. Good player in excellent nine ten quarters.

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Speaker 4: Why you laughing, Well, I just saw stat the Titans

839
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Speaker 4: passing offense as the fewest EPA per drop back in

840
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Speaker 4: the entire NFL, and either Will Levis or Mason Rudolph

841
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: have yet to complete a single game where they've had

842
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Speaker 4: a positive EPA in passing the football.

843
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Speaker 3: Because said Drake may will be the best quarterback on

844
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Speaker 3: the field.

845
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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to a couple just veterans who are out

847
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: there playing very professionally at a high level, Tony Pollard

848
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Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry.

849
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Speaker 2: Yes, Hunter Henry's he's a good player.

850
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Harold Landry Arden keep Maybe those are two guys that

851
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: could potentially get traded. And then I wanted to give

852
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: credit to Chris Long does a great podcast green Light

853
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Speaker 1: with Chris he is really the originator of this whole

854
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: post Lions trend curse that's out there that after you

855
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: play the Lions, you're just too physically beat up and

856
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: you look at the results the next week, they've all lost.

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Speaker 1: The next week, not only have they lost almost all

858
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Speaker 1: of them, it's been their worst game of the entire

859
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: season the next week. So I don't know if the

860
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Titans qualify because they're just so bad in general, but

861
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Speaker 1: they would have the post Lions curse here.

862
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Let's go Patriots.

863
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: And another winless team at home, those Tennessee Titans, and

864
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: they're playing in nash Vegas as well.

865
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Speaker 4: Okay, as somebody who needs to catch Greg and the picks,

866
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: I'm pulling for Mason Rudolph. Get out there, get out

867
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Speaker 4: there and show the coaches, show both Callahans just what

868
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 4: you can do as a quarterback. Let's go to the

869
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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins back against the Buffalo Bills. That did not

870
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Speaker 4: go well last time, but Tua in that game. Back

871
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 4: in this game, they had a narrow loss to Arizona Cardinals.

872
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 4: Greg the Buffalo Bills a six point favorite. Kevin Harland,

873
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Trent Melanie Collins on the call.

874
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think part of that is the matchup. It's

875
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: been a problem for Mike McDaniel. He's lost five straight

876
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: to Sean McDermott. You know, last time he lost to

877
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: a halfway through the game, but they were down three

878
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: scores at that point McDermott. Even if you go past

879
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: the McDaniel era, it really gets crazy. He has the

880
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: most wins against the Dolphins than any coach has against

881
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: any opponent since he got hired.

882
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: So he's won.

883
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: He's won like almost every single game. He just owns

884
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: this team and I don't see why it would change

885
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: because to me, the Bills are really finding an identity

886
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: as a tough team. I mentioned how they pushed Seattle

887
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: around earlier. Shakir I think is getting benefits from Cooper

888
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: being there that he you know, and this is a

889
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: matchup where David Long's really struggled for Miami in the

890
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: running game, in the receiving game, I think you could

891
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: take advantage of him when he's on the field with

892
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: some of those guys kincaide Shakir catching passes, and then

893
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned Coleman's great. There's just a lot of matchups

894
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: that you like. When the Bills have the ball. I

895
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: think Miami could keep up in this game. That it's

896
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: not like a total blot. Six seems about right. But

897
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: but it's hard to pick against the Bills.

898
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: Miami's defenses hasn't played well all season. I mean, they've

899
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: had some injuries, but they just haven't shown when they've

900
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 3: got a bow up, they haven't done it. And let's

901
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: not forget this is the John hu Smith game. Remember

902
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 3: earlier in the offseason or preseason he said, how bad

903
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: Buffalo as a city sucks.

904
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: I don't remember now, Yes, they do not.

905
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: Play that noise up there in Buffalo, and that's one

906
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: of the few fan bases you do not mess with.

907
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: You do not play with that. And so trust me,

908
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: this is gonna be one.

909
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: What are they gonna do, like throw a dough at

910
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: him like they did to Gronk back in the day.

911
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: That what they didn't do. It just wants either Craig,

912
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: maybe they'll throw two. It wasn't collectively, It wasn't a vote.

913
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: No, I know, but it happened. They still happened. I

914
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: mean they still we still get blamed like.

915
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: The Yankees fans should get blamed for the behavior of those.

916
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: I don't care.

917
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: Johnny Smith had his hotel tour. They did not play

918
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: around up there in Buffalo. Somebody's in the crowd with

919
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 4: a resolution. Be it resolved. This toy will be launched

920
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: at approximately one fifteen pm Eastern launching balls to Keon Coleman.

921
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: This season, Josh Allen, he's got the fifth most receiving

922
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: yards over expected in the NFL and a lot of

923
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: the because you know Keon Coleman that the dig can

924
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: be separation, but I think he's getting separation.

925
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah here recently.

926
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: The idea was that it's all going to be jump balls,

927
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: but as you pointed out, Greg playing much better football

928
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: the receive the Steven group. Amari Cooper had a wrist

929
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: injury at practice on Wednesday. He's question jumping, and I

930
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: on that one looks dicey.

931
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: That's concerning the Dolphins offense was much better last week. Now,

932
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: Tua did not complete many throws over ten passes. When

933
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: I reached rewatched that game, it was almost all sorts stuff. Uh,

934
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: there was one nice throw down the sideline to Tyreek Kill,

935
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: but there wasn't much. But everything was just more cohesive,

936
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: the motion, the plays, he got the ball out of

937
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: his hands, he played well. There was a couple spots

938
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: where you saw a little bit of rust. You know,

939
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: you had three fumbles in that game. A couple of them.

940
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: Were bad deep deep territory.

941
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was including the center exchange, Like it was

942
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: tough to say who's at fault there, But you figure

943
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: he would be even tighter this week.

944
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: So I think the offense is going to be good.

945
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: They just I spent so much time in August not

946
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: to be like bring up a weird point. Nick Wright,

947
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: who does a great job over there on Fox. He's

948
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: been listening to NFL Dat. He was a guest too,

949
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: and he was like, NFL Daily is the primary source

950
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: for Odell Beckham information in the country, because I was

951
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: just updating every day. Is Odell Beckham gonna be healthy?

952
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: Is he doing anything at practice? Where's Odell Beckham? Thinking

953
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: like he was, you know, still a relevant guy. And

954
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: he's been active for three weeks. And I probably should

955
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: not have spent as much time in August on Odell Beckham.

956
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know you carry, you carry the show.

957
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: Thank you, well done, thank you. And and there's people

958
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: who want to know I love Patrick dropping the D's formation.

959
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: I just I just thought, like, what couldn't I kept

960
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: I kept believing Odell's gonna make a comeback. And now

961
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: they got who was out there as their third receiver

962
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: last week?

963
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: Is d S Gridge?

964
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

965
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: D S Gridge, Come on, bro, let's take a break

966
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: and let's come back.

967
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna talk about the.

968
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: Games with bigger point spreads, but it doesn't mean they're

969
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: not quality games. There's some juicy revenge matchups here, some

970
00:44:47,560 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: fun fun ones. I used to work at NBC. I

971
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: was not involved in the Sunday Night Football production, but

972
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: I knew people that were my good friend Matt Casey

973
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: still over there doing football night in America. And I

974
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: want to applaud them because they haven't been using the

975
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: flex enough.

976
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: Let for my taste, the last couple of years, they

977
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: barely ever flex the game.

978
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: Let me get a good games, I guess, but sometimes

979
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: it's a little squirrely. But this time they did a

980
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: service to America. They got Colts Vikings into Sunday Night Football.

981
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: I might say, like, that's not like the greatest game ever,

982
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: but it's better than JAG's Eagles. And to me, it's

983
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: very intriguing. Whether it was Anthony Richardson or Joe Flacco.

984
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: I want to see this game. I'm excited.

985
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, get fired up for the battle of the former

986
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: Jets quarterbacks. It's Joe Flacco going up against Sam Darnold.

987
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: They were all in the same areas.

988
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: The Minnesota Vikings a five point favorite, the over unders

989
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: forty six and a half. Mike Turrico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa

990
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: Stark on the call, oh Sunday Night, Everything leading up

991
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: to all that we want, except some of us would

992
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: have liked to see Anthony Richson in this game. The

993
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 4: Colts would not Steve does it matter against I'm.

994
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: Kind of like, speak for yourself. I'd rather see Joe

995
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: Flacko in this game because Anthony Richardson, I mean, look,

996
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 3: beside the tap out, he had not completed more than

997
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: fifty percent of passes in any game that he finished

998
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: all season. Was he was really hurting his team. I

999
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 3: get what they want to do because there are four

1000
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: and four. The Colts are a little bit better than

1001
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 3: we're giving him credit for. The Vikings have been a

1002
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: little shaky, especially on the defensive side. So if the

1003
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: Colts can run the ball a little bit and get

1004
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: some of that timing offense game that five points might

1005
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: be a bit much. But I think Minnesota's now had

1006
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: some time to think about things, especially since you know

1007
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's getting face mask that wasn't called in the

1008
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: Rams game.

1009
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: They getting kicked off kblan.

1010
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: Is of QB Island two. He's little heard by that.

1011
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota this extended break that they just had

1012
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: playing on Thursday night, they're going to tighten things up

1013
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 3: at a game like this, So you know, I like Donald,

1014
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: I like their offense. I just think justin Jefferson, the

1015
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: Colts don't have an answer for him.

1016
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, the answer would just be pass rushed.

1017
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: So they were better last week with the Forest Buckner back. Yeah,

1018
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean he I know it was against Houston, who

1019
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have the best offensive line, but you saw the

1020
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: vision coming into the season. They didn't have Grover Stewart

1021
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: for a few weeks to Forest Buckner's healthy.

1022
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: Now you got Odegbo. You got a lot too.

1023
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, this division, Gus Bradley's defense makes a

1024
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: little more sense. Can you get after Sam Darnold? He's

1025
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: holding the ball more than almost any quarterback in the lay.

1026
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: And Robinson might only have two days of practice at

1027
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: left tackle.

1028
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: Glad you mentioned that since we last recorded, there has

1029
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: been a trade. The Minnesota Vikings get Cam Robinson, who's

1030
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: played a lot of football starting for the Jacksonville Dagars,

1031
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: good enough that they're putting franchise tags on him. They're

1032
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: paying him a lot of money. They did not have

1033
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: to give up much to do it. So I love

1034
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: that trade for the Vikings, very little risk. It was

1035
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: for a fourth round conditional pick, so that's outstanding for them.

1036
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: We'll see if Blake Cashman was back. I think that

1037
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: was an important part to that Thursday night loss. Really

1038
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the two straight losses is their linebackers were getting a

1039
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: little cooked in covered so Cashman would help them. And yeah,

1040
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I love a team like Minnesota recognizing maybe maybe they're

1041
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl contenders, maybe they're not. But either way,

1042
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: losing Christian darrif Saw for the season really lowered their ceiling.

1043
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: So getting a quality guy back, like, there's nothing more

1044
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: important than now you know your fourth round pick. That's

1045
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: that's the future. Let's have a little fun here and

1046
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: let's go beat the Colts on Sunday night.

1047
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it makes it makes perfect sense

1048
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 4: that darrisol loss was huge.

1049
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: Yep. Being able to go get a guy who started

1050
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: won a lot of games and Cam Robinson made perfect

1051
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: sense to me. The price seemed a lot of these trades,

1052
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: especially for contenders. Speaking tenders, it's easy inspiring. He's got

1053
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: inspiring contract.

1054
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I know, but they get like compensatory picks in theory

1055
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: if they want to play the game, which like the

1056
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: Ravens will play that game. You know, it was pointed

1057
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: out like they're going to get a compensatory back just

1058
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: to make up for that pick.

1059
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Anyways, probably it's crazy and.

1060
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: Something that you know, in defense of Anthony Richardson, which

1061
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: is something that our friend of the show, Nate Tyce

1062
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 4: pointed out as well. This offense is designed to go

1063
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: down the field, especially when Anthony Richardson's planned. And if

1064
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 4: you look at the knickttion gen stats, his expected completion

1065
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: percentage is just based on the location of the receivers

1066
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: and the target of where things are going. He's got

1067
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: one of the lowest amongst starters in the league, the

1068
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: starting quarterbacks, the absolute lowest. His average depth of target

1069
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: is one of the highest, like they take shots, and

1070
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 4: so the offense doesn't really expect Anthony Richardson to complete

1071
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 4: passes at a very high clip. And you know, the

1072
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 4: toughness whatever about tapping out. I just it's one play

1073
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 4: he shakes off a dude's three hundred pounds, he goes

1074
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 4: running like he taps out of the play. Yeah, you

1075
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: don't want to say that, perhaps he's covering up something

1076
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 4: else he's missed games. People have questioned his toughness before

1077
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: because he's a human being who dares to have human

1078
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: body parts. I just I don't see it as big

1079
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 4: enough deal. But get we get Joe.

1080
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: Throwing the throwing the three hundred pounder off and being

1081
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: tired after that. I mean, running backs do that all

1082
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the time, and no one goes crazy about that that

1083
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: you take a playoffs enstich In, for what it's worth,

1084
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: said that had no impact on his decision now. He

1085
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: also said Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback moving forward.

1086
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: It's not just like a one week now you have

1087
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: to say that. I took nothing out of that statement,

1088
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: And I talked about the four week stretch they have

1089
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: coming up. Three of the games are against three of

1090
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, this one, the Bills,

1091
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: and the Lions are coming up, and if Flacco can

1092
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: get them a win against one of those teams, he'll

1093
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: keep that job. And if he can't, he probably won't

1094
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: and and they'll go back to him. But the whole

1095
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: idea of like like whether he was tough or not,

1096
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that had a I just think he

1097
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: didn't look like a confident player. So I think Joe

1098
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Flacco also is not a normal backup. I don't even

1099
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: think he's Andy Dalton or Jameis Winston. I think he's

1100
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: better the way he's played the last few years. He's

1101
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: played at a very high level. So I want to

1102
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: see that Joe Flacco against Yeah, and you talk.

1103
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: About the offense design drive the ball down the field.

1104
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: What does Joe Flacco do. He drives the ball down

1105
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: the field. It'll be on schedule. I don't think the

1106
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: toughness thing came into the decision, even though if you're

1107
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman or whatever and you're you're just eating

1108
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: fist and everything all game to protect this guy and

1109
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: he taps out, that can't sit well. But I just

1110
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: think these guys know Anthony Richardson better than anyone. Shane

1111
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: Stike and I think is a hell of a coach, right.

1112
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: I think he recognizes he was that Anthony richard started

1113
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 3: to swim up stream mentally a little bit. He had

1114
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: to calm him down to save him. So I think

1115
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: that's more of anything in this in this decision.

1116
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: A couple other things in this game. TJ.

1117
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: Hockinson expected to return welcome back first time in almost

1118
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: a year, about ten months or so, so that'll be great.

1119
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, they'll be the first five

1120
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: and oh team since the twenty sixteen cursed Minnesota Vikings

1121
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: team that went from five and oh to like well

1122
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. The was a very controversial team

1123
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: of around the NFL pick that we picked the moment

1124
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: they got to five and oh and then they absolutely

1125
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: nose dive with Sam Bradford as their quarterback.

1126
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: And so you got to want to win this game.

1127
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: And you know, as someone who does have Josh Downs

1128
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: in a fantasy league, I don't hate this move to

1129
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Joe Flacca.

1130
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm just saying Josh Downs was eating with Athrey Richardson.

1131
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 2: That's true. Josh Downs is so good. He's a really good.

1132
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: Pleasing, great Drake Mays college receiver.

1133
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: This guy. That's true.

1134
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: Moving on, and also, yeah, this this one, this one's exciting.

1135
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: You know why because Derek Carr is back. Baby. The

1136
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints a seven point favorite on the road

1137
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 3: in Charlotte, where we found out this week from Dave

1138
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: Canalis that Bryce Young is going to start the over

1139
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: under forty three and a half, Tom McCarthy, Jay Feely

1140
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: and a Mendo Bell littleness on the call. Greg Bryce

1141
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: is back. He did it. He got his job.

1142
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 2: I thought he played better.

1143
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, against the Broncos in some tough situation. Now, he

1144
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: had one really bad interception in the fourth quarter that

1145
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: made reminded you of the old Bryce that we saw

1146
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: the first couple weeks of the season when he was

1147
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: struggling last year. But for the most part, he pushed

1148
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. He was much more aggressive,

1149
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: He trusted his arm, and he delivered a number of

1150
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: really nice throws. The turnovers he can't have, but I

1151
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: was worried that the turnovers were gonna get him back

1152
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: on the bench, when actually I thought the performance deserved

1153
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: another look against the defense that's not really playing very well.

1154
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: We don't know if Marshall Latimore is gonna be there.

1155
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: They don't have much of a pass rush. When you

1156
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: think about Panthers OH line versus Saints D line, I

1157
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: actually think that's a win for the Panthers.

1158
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, and to get back to Bryce, you know,

1159
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: I spoke to someone who you know, was on the

1160
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: one of the Broncos coaches who said that Bryce made

1161
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 3: all the right decisions, like he played well, it's just

1162
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: a matter of there's just not much around him. Like

1163
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: he could basically play his tail off and they can

1164
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: still just not generate points because there's just not great protection.

1165
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: Just some of the things you're doing just aren't that fantastic,

1166
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: which is why the seven for the.

1167
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: Saints had a slight to the coach or the talent

1168
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: or both.

1169
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: I think it's probably again was to both because they're

1170
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: just trying to figure out.

1171
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 2: I give you the hard questions, but I.

1172
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: Mean I'm just saying that they're trying to figure out

1173
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: what to do. Like, we have him back here, We've

1174
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 3: got all kind of guys who probably should be on

1175
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: practice squad playing, you know, how do we figure this

1176
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: one out? So it's not necessarily a bad coaching, but

1177
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, how do we put the pieces of

1178
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: the puzzle together to be competitive? But in this game

1179
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: right here with the seven is a big number. I mean,

1180
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: the Saints absolutely boat raced him early in the season,

1181
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: but Caroline has diminished. They just, you know, they just

1182
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: lost the receiver. I think that they were actually pretty

1183
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: happy to get rid of. There weren't a lot of

1184
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: there weren't a lot of people biting at that apple

1185
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: at the trade deadline.

1186
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: Clearly on the compete, so you.

1187
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: Know, what did he do? That we don't know that

1188
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: we don't know. I mean, he could play, but there

1189
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: weren't a lot of people, Like I said, biting at

1190
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: that apple.

1191
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 2: He ain't better lose this game though. No, I'm just

1192
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: saying no.

1193
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: So you think I mean I would put it past them,

1194
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: I know, But I just think if you lost this game.

1195
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: They've been pretty patient. They have an very easy schedule

1196
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: coming up, so they're still trying to convince themselves they

1197
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: could be relevant. But you lose this game to the Panthers,

1198
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: I think that'd be Yeah, that'd be trouble. It is

1199
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: a bad, bad, bad Panthers defense. When you talk about

1200
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: a lack of talent, clown. He's out there actually making

1201
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: some plays the last couple weeks and maybe he'll get traded.

1202
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 2: But other than that and JC Horn, it's rough.

1203
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember last year when the Falcons went up

1204
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: to Carolina and lost. That was it for Arthur Smith.

1205
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's one thing owners can own. Owners can

1206
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: tolerate losing. They can't tolerate being embarrassed.

1207
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: The Saints have a ten point six explosive pass rate

1208
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 4: since Week three.

1209
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 3: Derek Carr were glad to have him back. He comes

1210
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: back there's no Rashid Shaheed. I think that number continues

1211
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: to not necessarily be that great for the New Orleans Saints.

1212
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: I bet it's a lot higher on defense.

1213
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: I saw a stat that they have given up seven

1214
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: plays over forty five yards this year and twenty four

1215
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: plays over thirty yards.

1216
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy you talk about it.

1217
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: He's not generating pass rush.

1218
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: That's DA's defense right now, that's you know ee, all right, Bryce,

1219
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: let's go.

1220
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Bryce. I'm not gonna pick it,

1221
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't like that seven. I don't like

1222
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: that seven. Let's do it.

1223
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: Let's go to a guy who played a pretty good

1224
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 4: game against a pretty good defense last week, Gardner Minshew

1225
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: and the Las Vegas Raiders on the road against Burrow

1226
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 4: and Chase, who are seven point home favorites forty six

1227
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: and a half. Kevin Coogler, Daryl Johnston and laur Oakman

1228
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 4: on the call. We've been trying to figure out this

1229
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: Bengals defense. It turns out that they're struggling.

1230
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: Greg. Do they struggle against the Raiders?

1231
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

1232
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: Their offensive line struggled last week, which was the most

1233
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: concerning part of that game against Philadelphia because I thought

1234
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: they'd been playing well this year. But you lose Orlando

1235
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: Brown and if their offensive line becomes an issue consistently,

1236
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: then this team just doesn't have enough. And we thought

1237
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: we saw last week like even without T Higgins they

1238
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: might not have enough.

1239
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 2: They are very star driven.

1240
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown and T Higgins were both not at practice

1241
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, but it is the Raiders who are Max

1242
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: Crosby and not a lot of depth there on their

1243
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: defensive line, so I would think they can still get

1244
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: it done. But they're really they're a star driven team.

1245
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Jesse Bates earlier, and I just kept thinking, like,

1246
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 1: what a misevaluation not to pay your own guy.

1247
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: Oh geez, Bengals not paying their own guns and you

1248
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: kind of flourish.

1249
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: And now you're maybe seeing it with T Higgins too,

1250
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: So that's that's it. Like if they had Jesse Bates,

1251
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: that would have solved a lot of their issues.

1252
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: I think the last two years.

1253
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: Look, we don't know what the Bengals are. The Raiders

1254
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: are going to go in there and they're gonna compete.

1255
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: They're they're I mean, look, they're teetering right now, right

1256
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: and Antonio Pierce. It's like, you know, we want to

1257
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: see who's who's a grown man, Who's gonna who's gonna

1258
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: come and play football. I think they're gonna give the

1259
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Bengals hell this game, but I just don't know if

1260
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: they can consistently stop. You know that the Bengals are

1261
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 3: putting points on the board and speaking about paying guys

1262
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati misses.

1263
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, that one I get.

1264
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: He kept He kept getting hurt mid season, which you

1265
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: can't blame a guy for getting hurt, but it was

1266
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: consistent year after year where he start.

1267
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: I can't blame him for Joe Mixon.

1268
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: I feel like Chase Brown and Zach Moss as a

1269
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: tandem is low on their list of issues.

1270
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: True, that's all, but it is interesting that they it

1271
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: was loaded up with volume for Joe Mixon.

1272
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: Yes, and there's and now there's guys to share.

1273
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: I wonder if Joe's like, hey, we could have kept

1274
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: a little more tread on little HighRes for Joe if

1275
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: we presented things that way. But you mentioned Max Crosby.

1276
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: Steve his his pressure rate this season is the lowest

1277
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: for him since twenty twenty, and I think a lot

1278
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 4: of that is the defense being under manned, yes, and

1279
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 4: they are here in this one.

1280
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 3: I understand that the Bengals have issues up front, but

1281
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: this this Raiders defense, despite having some opportunity to be

1282
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: very very close against Patrick Mahomes last week, that there

1283
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: were plays on the field to be made. They always

1284
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: played the Raiders close. I mean they always play the

1285
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: Chiefs close, just did not did not make them. And

1286
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase right now again, go into the fantasy world.

1287
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: He's averaging two point six points per target right now.

1288
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: That's a lot, in other words, giving him targets he's eating.

1289
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: Load him up against against this Raiders secondary. What about

1290
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 3: Mike KASICKI He's gonna do some things as well too.

1291
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 2: He could playing well. I would have ever.

1292
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, I apologize to Mike Kasiki for what the

1293
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: New England Patriots did to your career because I thought

1294
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: you were beyond done. I thought all the Bengals fans

1295
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: talking about, oh yeah, Kasiki's gonna really help us out,

1296
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, are you crazy?

1297
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: But he actually looks pretty good. Him and Eric all

1298
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: are a good, uh good tight end tandem.

1299
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: Let's go to Jacksonville where they will go to Philadelphia

1300
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: A seven and a half point favorite coming off.

1301
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: The win against the Cincinnati Bengals. The over under forty

1302
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 4: five and a half. Andrew catalong Tiki Barber, Jason according

1303
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: and A j Ross on the call. Uh, Steve, we

1304
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: are gonna see this Jags passing attack. They lost Christian

1305
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: Kirk for the season. Tough one, Uh Trev coming in

1306
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 4: missing a man? Can they do enough to clear that

1307
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: seven and a half?

1308
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: I guess I don't like the seven and a half.

1309
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a I think it's gonna

1310
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: be a tighter game than that. I know Philadelphie's been

1311
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: running the ball well, Jalen's been playing well. But you know,

1312
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: I think for Jacksonville getting Foyer a Lucan back and

1313
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: been a linebacker. You know, I was with them for

1314
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: a couple weeks over in London, and they're like they

1315
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: they missed the fact he's the guy who gets everybody aligned,

1316
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 3: making sure if a guy's out of a gap, he

1317
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 3: gets in the right gap. I think they know if

1318
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna play Phildelphia tough. I I you know, Evan

1319
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: Inglam's probably gonna gonna eat. You know, he's gonna have

1320
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: ten twelve targets. He's gonna do his thing. Brian Thomas

1321
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: is a special player. I don't know. I'm not saying

1322
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: they're gonna gonna beat Phildelpi people that seven and a

1323
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: half as a big, big number for me.

1324
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, they got some players back from in like

1325
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: a Lua Kahn and Tyson Campbell's an important player for

1326
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: them who came back. But then they had all these

1327
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: new injuries pop up. Christian Kirk, Brian Thomas had the

1328
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: chest injury, although he was at practice Wednesday, so it

1329
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: sounds like he'll be able to play this week. But

1330
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff, who's a starter for them on the offensive line,

1331
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: another offensive line starter, Azra Cleveland. So this is a

1332
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: team that can't afford injuries. And I am really curious

1333
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: if the Eagles have really embraced this identity as a

1334
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: run first type of team because it's working. Jalen Hurts

1335
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: maybe he's a quarterback. It's more with less Let's recognize

1336
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: that our offensive line really good run blocking, that Jalen

1337
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: Hurts is a really good runner, and that he opens

1338
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: up things for Saquon Barkley.

1339
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: It can be mutually beneficial.

1340
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: And that maybe it's not great to just drop back

1341
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: and pass because early in games they've been dropping back

1342
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: at a really high volume and they still have yet

1343
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: to score in the first quarter of a game this year.

1344
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: Isn't that's crazy?

1345
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: Now, that's it's such a crazy stat and it feels

1346
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: like it should have an asterisk. After last week they

1347
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the They scored on their first possession last

1348
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: week for the first time, but the Bengals had the

1349
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: ball for eleven minutes, so their first possession didn't even

1350
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: end till till the second quarter started, so and that

1351
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: included a lot of running. So I just was thinking

1352
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: this team's looked more physical. Their defensive line has played

1353
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: quite well the last handful week. Now, I think it's

1354
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: really a trend, and I think they'll be able to

1355
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: continue that against the Jaguars. I'm taken. I'm taking the

1356
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Eagles even with the seven and a half. I think

1357
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: they roll in this game. This was the game that

1358
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: we had talked about making our survivor before we decided

1359
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: to be a little bolder, but this would be another

1360
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: fine option.

1361
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: In my mind.

1362
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm glad in hindsight looking back and saying, yeah,

1363
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 4: I'm glad that we went with our Bowl pick okay

1364
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 4: instead of this one because it's again, it's a hurt

1365
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: Jags team, even hurt on the offensive line where they

1366
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: just traded a left tackle who started seventy five games

1367
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

1368
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: It's especially I do.

1369
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: Think right looking at a fully healthy DeVante Smith and

1370
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 4: aj Brown, that that that's the identity the run game

1371
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: and then deep shots to both of those guys, waiting

1372
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: to see when they can get Dallas Goddard back.

1373
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: Although Grant CalCon teris played wolf fine sounds.

1374
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that full contingent that that helps

1375
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: the passing game probably more than anything. I mean, everybody

1376
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: deals with injuries, but I think Jalen's numbers look a

1377
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: lot better in that instance. And this this Jags defense,

1378
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 4: I think, like when you sort the statistics, because I

1379
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: try to find like where, where's everything going on there?

1380
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 3: They're not like overall bad.

1381
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 4: They're not giving up a huge bunch of chunk runs,

1382
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 4: but it's just situational runs, like when they make so

1383
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 4: many mistakes they.

1384
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: Need to stuff. It was third down, third and six,

1385
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: like they gave up a third and five draw last week.

1386
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 3: They had all those penalties against the Chicago Bears, like

1387
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: when they need to get off the field, they just

1388
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 3: can't do it. And it is it is simple basic stuff. Again,

1389
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: spending time with him over two weeks a month. It

1390
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: is guys not lining up properly, playing the wrong gaps,

1391
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: just simple simple things he's getting. You know, they're drive

1392
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: against the Bears. They had three defensive holdings, allowed the

1393
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: Bears to get to the ends and on one drive

1394
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: on third down, all three on third down.

1395
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: See, I think that's great because it's a week that

1396
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I think they could outsmart themselves sometimes. You know,

1397
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni's enjoying this week no longer the main character,

1398
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: Like this is a team they can just run some basics.

1399
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: It's at the trap doors against it's against Doug Peterson.

1400
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: That's the revenge. There is some revenge going on here

1401
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: because Doug Peterson, I don't think, was thrilled with how

1402
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: his time in Philadelphia ended.

1403
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: That's why this was originally the Sunday night game. They moved,

1404
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 2: they moved out of it.

1405
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: So I I've had this thing in my head that

1406
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: until these last couple of weeks they really were on

1407
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: this timeline that they were repeating their previous time they

1408
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: made the Super Bowl, you know, not that time they

1409
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: won it.

1410
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: This time they didn't.

1411
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: But like the next season was very similar to Doug

1412
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: Peterson's follow up season, and then and that con they

1413
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: get the contract to the quarterback, and then the production

1414
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: goes down almost immediately, and I was like, I do

1415
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: not want to see Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts go

1416
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: the way of Peterson and Carson Wentz.

1417
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: And I think they've righted the ship.

1418
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: So this this is a time for the Eagles to

1419
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: show we're not Doug Peterson's Eagles.

1420
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. Angelo. I don't know man, trapdoor, trapdoor.

1421
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: Speaking of teams going on the road from Florida who

1422
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: have injuries at receiver, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on the

1423
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: road at Kansas City, eight and a half point favorites.

1424
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: It's Monday Night Football. Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters.

1425
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: There's an alternate broadcast where you can listen to Bill

1426
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: Belichick's they mean things about the Patriots or the Jets

1427
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: as well, and Greg Baker Mayfield with a chance to

1428
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: go out there and shock the world and all the doubters,

1429
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 4: yourself included what happened?

1430
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: You know what, I'd like to issue a small apology

1431
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: for my snide Baker comment on Sunday night, watching rewatching

1432
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: that game a little closer, I thought he played well

1433
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: in that game. He had the couple picks, but that

1434
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: game he was not a problem for the team. Now,

1435
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that Dave Canalis got the

1436
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: head coaching job in Carolina based on what a good

1437
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: job he did with Baker Mayfield in this Bucks offense.

1438
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's even subjective. This Buccaneers offense

1439
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: is coached better this year and Baker Mayfield is better

1440
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: this year. So I don't know what that says about

1441
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis or not.

1442
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: But I'm just i't why Dave Canalis got that job.

1443
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: It's not no. There's about seven other dudes who said.

1444
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: No, Okay, okay, that's part of it. That's fair.

1445
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: I guess that's my roundabout way of giving a backhanded

1446
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: dig to Canalis, but also complementing Liam Cohen because I

1447
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: actually do think they have enough pieces. When I watched

1448
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: that game, I did not think that the lack of

1449
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: Goodwin and Evans were the reason they lost. They got

1450
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: enough good production out of Jarrett and Trey Palmer and

1451
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: my guya, And it was really their defense. Their defense

1452
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: has been as big or a bigger issue this year

1453
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: under Tide Bowles.

1454
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: It's just not very sound.

1455
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for the Chiefs to finally hit

1456
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: some big plays, this is a defense to do it against.

1457
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing that's disappointed for me. You know,

1458
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: I think Baker in that offense is fine. They've had

1459
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 3: a good offensive line, they can mix it up. They

1460
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: got running backs, you can catch it. But here's the question.

1461
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 3: When does Kansas City lose? I mean, they're not gonna

1462
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: They're not gonna go unbeaten. Is it Monday night Tampa?

1463
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: Is it next week against a Broncos team that's no

1464
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 3: pretty good? Is it at Buffalo? And then they got Carolina,

1465
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: Las Vegas, the Chargers, Cleveland, Houston? I mean, at some

1466
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: point they are going to lose. Is is this the

1467
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 3: game that's kind of the law of averages? Here?

1468
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: At Buffalo is their hardest game left on the schedule.

1469
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, And at Pittsburgh at the end of the season.

1470
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, you got in at Pittsburgh, you got a

1471
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: home for Christmas. Houston, you know, a lot of them

1472
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: aren't layups. They'll they'll find a way to lose. I

1473
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: would I guess I would go at Buffalo would be

1474
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: the first one. But in a one game sample, you

1475
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: never feel good picking against the Chiefs. At this point

1476
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: with me, this defense is playing situationally. They're so good

1477
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: in the red zone. They're just they're good at everything.

1478
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: And there's when added pieces, you know, getting d hop offensively,

1479
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 3: I mean they just didn't they just the pieces on

1480
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: both day and they get Josh, yeah, they got ouch.

1481
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: And it's like.

1482
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 4: You you hope for if you're a fan of an

1483
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: AFC contender and you're watching the Super Bowl champs who

1484
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: are undefeated, go and add pieces, you start to wonder, hey,

1485
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 4: where's everybody else?

1486
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: Why don't we make us move?

1487
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of these Bucks games now that this

1488
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: is the game that Mahomes really gets it rolling, that

1489
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: Hopkins goes for eighty seven yards and two touchdowns, the

1490
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: running game gets going. I have no faith in these

1491
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: Bucks linebackers. I hate to throw them anti David in

1492
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: that mix, but just they're they're making plays over the

1493
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: middle of the field and it's a game where afterwards

1494
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: everyone's just like no one's gonna.

1495
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 2: Beat the Chiefs.

1496
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: We were all wrong in September, because they're going to

1497
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: put up a forty spot and it'll feel like the

1498
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: old Chiefs are back.

1499
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: And they pretty much are.

1500
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean in DVOA, they're they're fourth in the year now,

1501
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: even including that September where the team didn't look as great,

1502
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: they're playing like one of the best teams obviously in

1503
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: the In the.

1504
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: He's got a Homes Patrick saying like he's gonna be

1505
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: kirk O change because you don't know how kirk Oh

1506
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: tears up the bus.

1507
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. They'll watch that tape. He'll figure

1508
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: it out.

1509
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: Andy Reidal, Yeah, he'll throw in something. He'll he'll actually

1510
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: tell Mahomes you can't move, you can't leave the pocket

1511
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: like Kirko chains.

1512
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: You gotta just copy him.

1513
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 3: Just be a total statue, stay back there, do everything

1514
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: like kirk including cringe pre and postgame hype commerce. You

1515
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 3: know what, the trap the trap stop. Oh my gosh,

1516
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 3: second hand embarrassment.

1517
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's clinically diagnosed, but I literally

1518
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: cannot I run away from the TV because it's been

1519
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: much for me. The weird thing about this Bulls defense

1520
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 4: pressure was in terms of numbers of pressure, one of

1521
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 4: the best teams in the league per next stats.

1522
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: Get better be what he blitz every other day.

1523
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 4: The pressure percentage right there next to the Steelers at

1524
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 4: thirty three and a half percent. They just you know,

1525
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 4: Antoine Winfield Junior, one of the best players in the

1526
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 4: secondary as well, just just not getting it done.

1527
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 3: I just I just can't get Kirk Cousins going down

1528
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: to Bankhead go into a trap house out of my

1529
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: head right now.

1530
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: Although I know we've talked a lot about the Falcons

1531
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: and the Bucks during this but you see those outcast Falcons.

1532
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: Spectacular, pretty sweet. Nice.

1533
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of getting one, But I'm like, do I

1534
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: really want to wear a Falcon sweaterer?

1535
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 3: But maybe we get there's one his outcast on it.

1536
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm as cool as you. I mean,

1537
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 2: it says outcast but also says Falcons breakdown.

1538
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 3: That's a sweatshirt that you gotta get. Shout out to

1539
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: Baldy all right. In the game with the highest spread

1540
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 3: of the week, I don't know if it should. I

1541
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: think the game we discuss should probably have the highest

1542
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: spread of the week. But the one of the number

1543
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: one total passing defenses in the NFL. The Denver Broncos

1544
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: going on the road at the Baltimore Ravens, who are

1545
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 3: a nine point favorite. The over under forty five and

1546
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 3: a half points. Nance Romo and Tracy on the call

1547
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 3: for CBS. Steve not nine points. Steve White should be

1548
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 3: their pre game four NFL network. But there, well, I'm

1549
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 3: headed to bald I don't get this nine points. Last

1550
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: I checked, Baltimore's defense still giving up passing touchdowns and

1551
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: Denver's defense is really good. Okay, Now, granted they got

1552
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 3: fat off of some teams that are not good offensively,

1553
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 3: but those three guys up front, right, they're dn They

1554
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 3: played at thirty at thirty four kind of thirty five front.

1555
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: Those three guys up front are doing work. Okay, Now,

1556
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: they're going up a good offense against a good offensive line.

1557
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 3: But the one thing they do they blitz like we

1558
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 3: talked about Todd Bowles blitz and they blitzed like crazy.

1559
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 3: They can't do that game. They cannot. They've got a

1560
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 3: break character because if they blitz Derrek Henry gets by you,

1561
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 3: Lamar gets by you, the math is bad. They're gone

1562
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: now Patrick's are ten best corner in the NFL, best

1563
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: corner in the NFL. Like, Okay, there's nobody who's gonna

1564
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 3: go out there Deontay Johnson's a Flowers and tear him up. Okay,

1565
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: so this is ten on ten, but it is a

1566
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: legit ten on ten because Lamar, you know, you have

1567
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: to count him into the faction here. I think this

1568
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: is going to be I think it's going to be

1569
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: under the forty five point five and that nine point

1570
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 3: by Baltimore, don't I don't see it. I don't think

1571
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 3: this is a game where bo Nix goes in there

1572
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 3: and carves them up. But I think points are gonna

1573
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: be much harder to come by than at four and

1574
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 3: forty five and a half number.

1575
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: So this is the Ravens defense panic week because of

1576
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: all the numbers of the plus twenty plays that they

1577
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 1: do know most in the NFL, and it's almost it's

1578
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: forty plus twenty plays. Thirty nine of them are their

1579
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: past defense. So it's not their run and it's in

1580
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter they could get

1581
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: Now you're going up against bon Nicks, who last week

1582
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: for the first time, really pushed the ball down the

1583
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: field consistently eight for sixteen on plus ten throws over

1584
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: ten air yards for one hundred and eighty yards. Now,

1585
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: he had all day back there again, and he was

1586
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: playing against the Panthers, but he had some really nice throws,

1587
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: and he's going to have to be even better because

1588
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: you're just not going to be able to run the

1589
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: ball against this Ravens team. I still I think the

1590
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: Ravens are a great team, and I know they're incomplete

1591
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: right now, but I think great teams respond from embarrassing performances,

1592
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: and I think bow Knicks in this spot is not

1593
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: going to be good enough to keep up in a shootout. So, yeah,

1594
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: he might hit you for some big plays, but I

1595
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: don't believe in the Broncos defense enough to shut him down.

1596
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: I think it's more like thirty to sixteen something like that.

1597
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1598
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 4: The spot where the Ravens do excel is preventing the

1599
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,480
Speaker 4: quarterback run. And bo Knicks was one of the top scramblers.

1600
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 4: Like we talked about Lamar scrambling and Josh Allen, bo

1601
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 4: Knicks far and away the leader in the league in

1602
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 4: scrambles from the quarterback position. And I think that the

1603
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: Ravens specifically right with this pre game last week practice

1604
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: situation with Marcus Williams where he ultimately winds up essentially

1605
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 4: not playing in the game. Eddie Jackson comes in, has

1606
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 4: a dropped interception, blows the coverage on the game winning

1607
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 4: touchdown to Cedric Tillman. I think it's an opportunity for

1608
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: both Marcus and the coaching staff to realize where things

1609
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 4: went wrong, because the team is better when Markus Williams

1610
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 4: is on the field.

1611
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, they I mean when the last time we

1612
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 3: talked about Coyle Hamilton, a great player, like the you know,

1613
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: just just talking to people, They're like, these guys are

1614
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: not nearly as aggressive defensively as they have been in

1615
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 3: use up front, there a defensive line, you know, van

1616
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: Oy and Mattapek and these guys.

1617
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: Even hasn't had great production. Smith has not been as

1618
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: big a different figure.

1619
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: I think him and Trent Simpson has not been what

1620
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: we thought they were gonna do.

1621
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: I think you have to point towards the change in

1622
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: the coaching staff was the fact that they brought in

1623
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Dean Ps, their old friend, five weeks in. That was

1624
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 1: probably a red flag that, like the communication issues that

1625
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: you can see just as a fan, something's not right,

1626
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: and you're going up against a good coach offensively and

1627
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and Boix's getting better. So I'm not ruling

1628
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: this out from being close like mid third quarter and

1629
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,480
Speaker 1: making the people sweat over those nine points. But ultimately

1630
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about Lamar Jackson versus bo Nick mind Avery Ravens.

1631
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 3: You can see every game, every one of their games

1632
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: is like a two point game. One way of those

1633
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: is like a two point game. Last year when they won,

1634
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: they won by like fifteen points, like they were stomping people.

1635
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: So the Broncos, you mentioned the defense, the easy schedule

1636
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: they've played the twenty seventh schedule in terms of the

1637
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: hardest offense, is that they face. They faced the Jets,

1638
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: they faced Minshew, they faced Rattler, they faced Bryce Young

1639
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 1: last week.

1640
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 2: So this is I think an interesting test for him.

1641
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can't like you're giving me this like,

1642
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can't pass it and that they

1643
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: can't get some pressure on Lamar because last week, frankly,

1644
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: the Brown's got a lot of pressure on Lamar.

1645
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: So maybe they can double it up and do even better.

1646
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: But show me something they got to kind of prove

1647
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: it in a game with yeah me to really believe.

1648
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 3: Are you putting the twenty twenty four Denver Broncos defense

1649
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: on fraud Watch.

1650
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: Greg, No, But I just think they're a function of

1651
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: their schedule. I think they're going to be good. But

1652
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: to be a great defense in it in today's NFL,

1653
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: you got to be able to slow down great offenses.

1654
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 2: So they do it this week. I'll give him some.

1655
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: They got two good corners. They got two good corners too.

1656
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 3: The guy opposite of Certain's really.

1657
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: Good leath the weapon, Riley Moss Patrick.

1658
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: Riley Moss kind of silently got done up last week

1659
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 4: by Jalen Cocher though, And it's been a it's been

1660
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: a great run playing on the other side of Pats

1661
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 4: or Tam but Coker in the in the Panthers seving

1662
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: corps made some plays against Riley last week.

1663
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to rain on rain on our

1664
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: parade here? This is the first white cornerback that's been

1665
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: starting week after weeks. I lays and c Horney's representing.

1666
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: He's inspiring coaches out there to finally start giving the

1667
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: white guys a chance on the I love it.

1668
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 3: I love it. I want I want more because I

1669
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: think it's dumb.

1670
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 4: It is should you should if you could play corner,

1671
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 4: Blake corner, don't put it run you can run.

1672
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 1: Man, he's breaking boundaries. But I saw that too, Jalen Coker,

1673
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 1: nice little player.

1674
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 3: Man, Deontay Johnson, Fantasy holders, team up, get him ready.

1675
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call.

1676
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: But this actually would be a week I would think

1677
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: he would be a huge factor, but he just got

1678
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: there and he's taking a physical. He did miss last

1679
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: week's game. I don't know if he's really hurt. Can

1680
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: he really get up to speed that quick? Because you

1681
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: mentioned that Sir Tan can shut down your best player.

1682
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: That say, Flowers that this would be a week would

1683
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: be great to have another guy in the outside that

1684
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: can get it done.

1685
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 3: If he gets open, Like if he gets open, it

1686
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: gets in the ball. So that's all he is, what

1687
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: he's doing.

1688
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: So that is it for our Week nine preview. Enjoyed

1689
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: it as always. We're going to be back on Thursday night, Halloween.

1690
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: We're not going away on Halloween. We're working. I'm throwing

1691
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: a little party for the kids at the house we're

1692
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: meeting before they all go trick or treating and I'm

1693
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: saying so long, and my wife is taking Walker out.

1694
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm watching Texans Chet Seth Payne, great radio guy, great

1695
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: former Texan, will be joining me. Uh for Steve Wise,

1696
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Claiban, everyone behind the glass. Yeah, when uh, when

1697
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: the Broncos are on FraudWatch, you know football is back