1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive To with Ashman Sullam song with 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: John Oshan and Bryan Sect Jacks Drive To. He starts 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: right now, keep been gone, dee, keep been gone, dee. 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: He's been gone. Hey, let's go, let's go. I'm gonna 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: thank me. I'm gonna get a thank you' all. Ut 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: off the quarterback crops can throw out of his own 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: end zone the right side. He was getting hit as 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: he let it go. There's nobody over there. Let's be 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: a safety. You would think he wants food. Had the pressure. Hey, 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get there because let go. Let blow my 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: mom and I kind of the sec I need you. 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: What a game for to want smooth iked up against 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers a week three of the pre season. 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: A perfect game to make him up. Just a lot 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: of yelling going on. Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: a Thursday morning here for joint practice in Atlanta, Georgia, 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and special guests Hall of Famer Tony Basely. 18 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: I was told I had to call you that for 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. That I'm fine with unapologetically, 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: always authentically Tony BASSELLI. By the way, I believe you're 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: making your Drivetime debut. You're you're more of an afternoon guy, right, 22 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't know who that your sleep pattern or not. Um, 23 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: it's nice to have you. I've never been invited to 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Drive Time you are officially. It's very good. Yeah, I 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: guess I had to wait as would let me show 26 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: love it. Um, it's very nice. I mean Ashly and 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I do a Monday thing together for the UK breakdown. 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Never never d I've been waiting too, but yeah, okay, 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: it's an exclusive and you can pretty much check everything 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: off of your box as far as the NFL is concerned. Now, 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: all right, it is our last day of joint practice 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcon before we get ready for the 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: last preseason game the Saturday. So let's get into big things. 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Big thing one is a grasp on this offense. Today 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: will be the last time we see Trevor Lawrence and 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: really and any of these starters on a football field 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: before it's for real in the regular season. So where 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: is the quarterback right now? With the offense? I really 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: like where I'm at. I think as far as offense goes, 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: I feel really comfortable, feeling more and more confident each day, UM, 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: and just feel really good with where I'm at with 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: all the receivers, tight ends, running backs and then protection. 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Our communication, especially me and Luke is getting really really 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: good and we're on the same page more and more. So, 45 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: just I have a lot of confidence in that group 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: up front, and I love where we're at. So you know, 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: I've said it before, it's about getting better every week. 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see, you know where we're at in a 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: few weeks. Big thing too, is Devin Lloyd update the 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Jaguars cut up with the linebacker here at the team 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: hotel yesterday, only coming off his second practice after that 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and he's saying he's seeing the game differently 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: now that he's been on the sidelines all of training camp. 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: This injury, UM kind of was a blessing in disguise. 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: You know. I took a lot of things from it, 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: and it allowed me to see the game from a 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: coach's perspective. UM, you know, on the sideline. While I 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: was out, I knew I wasn't playing, so I had 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: to watch all them and really study um but the 60 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: backers in the offense. So it helped me get a 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: different perspective. UM. So that was huge as far as 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: my mental game, and I don't really feel I feel like, 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: if anything, um, that helped me elevate my game. I 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: know I wasn't out there, so physically it's a little different, 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: but um, I feel like mentally I'm as sharp as 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: you know I could be. And Big Thing three as 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: a security blink. Get linebacker foy A Loui Koon coming 68 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: back to Atlanta this week where he was traded from 69 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons, and we don't talk enough about this guy 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: who led the league and tackles last season. Defensive coordinator 71 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Mike Codwell is glad he's in Jacksonville. Signal caller that 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: everyone looks to that can get make everybody comfortable. He 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: does that for us on defense. He's came in learning 74 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the system, learn a new terminology, and he's been the 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: guy out there getting guys lined up, and he'd like 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: a security blanket. He's comfortable with the system and he 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: allowed everybody else to go out there and be comfortable also. 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: And there you have it. Those are big things. I 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: want to go back up to Big Thing too, which 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: is Devin Lloyd. He came off his second practice first 81 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: with the Land of Falcons, in a joint practice, got 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: a ton of reps yesterday, was flying all over the field. 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: We spoke to him yesterday afternoon. He was truthful and admitted, 84 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm really sore right now. And you saw him. He 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: definitely seems sore. Earlier this week. I thought, for sure, 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Tony he'll play in the game. He needs game action. 87 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Now I hesitate because if he is sort, do you 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: want to risk it this week? Well, what kind of 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: what kind of store are we talking about? If it's 90 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: hamstring soreness to the injury, then you want to back 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: it off. I mean, you gotta make sure you don't 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: really aggravate that. Anyone who's had a hamstring I was 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: never fast enough to have a hamstrings or didn't didn't 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: That was one thing I had to worry about. But 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: that can linger. If you don't let that fully heal, 96 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: you'll find yourself in week three, week four and so 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: on and so forth still not. And so if it's 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: that kind of sore to back off, if it's just 99 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: general football stort nous, heck, no damn game, because you 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: have to work through that. We all have that. Every 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: guy in this team. The first week of two days 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: actually no more two days of camp, I should say, 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: when the pads are on, you're like, oh, I forgot 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: what this feels like. And that's part of the process. 105 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: So it all depends what sort of we're talking about. 106 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: If you would have watched him chase down Artrell Hawkins 107 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: in you might have worried about his camps. I've seen 108 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: you move fast, Um, Tony, I don't think I've ever 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: seen a linebacker in Jacksonville run like he does. And 110 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that's saying something because Telvin Smith was fast and Miles 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: jack could really run, and because Lesnie was no slouch 112 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: as well. But watching Devin Lloyd run is like watching 113 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: a gazelle. I mean he's he's made to move like. 114 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: He's fast and instinctive. Yeah, I would I think he 115 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: moved like Kelvin Smith, but he's big. He Telvin Smith 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: was two ten after putting weights in his pockets and 117 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: everything else, now he could fly. He was like, it's 118 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: safety back. There you have Devin Lloyd who has safety 119 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: speed and agility to move around, but then he has 120 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: the size of a linebacker. I love to pick when 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: they made it. Um. If you are a fan of 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Pack twelve football, see you know that guy was dominant, 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and he has a chance to do something now for 124 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: us well with all the great defensive players up the 125 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: road at that way in Gainesville and that way in 126 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: tesscal Loosea. Last year he was the Associated Plus College 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He's that He's that good. 128 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: He's a special player. If he would have probably played 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: somewhere beside Utah or played in the SEC, everyone in 130 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: the nation would have known this guy's name. Because he 131 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: played on the West coast. They play at eleven o'clock 132 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: back on the East coast. A lot of people missed it. 133 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: So we need him healthy. I mean, he will be 134 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: the starting UH linebacker next to a Lucan. But you 135 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: gotta be smart with the hamstring. So I go back 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: to what kind of soreness is he feeling. If it's 137 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: hamstring soreness, take it easy. If it's not, get him 138 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: in there. He needs reps, reps his talent as he is, 139 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: he's still going from the college game to the program, 140 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: right and that's a big jump. And so um, he'll 141 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: be fine. I mean I did the same thing my 142 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: workie year, missed all of camp with an injury or 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: early after Day ten. Worst three games. Actually, day ten 144 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: in camp now would be almost finished. That was literally 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: like the second week Rember. But I missed everything, missed 146 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: preseason and got thrown into the regular season on a 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Sunday night football game. And if you can play this game, 148 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: you can play it. And I was fine, He'll be fine, 149 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: I believe because I think he's that good. But reps 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: always help young guy. Is he gonna get John Jones 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: and Reggie White in his first game? Yeah, you were 152 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: a little sore the next day. I was thankful that 153 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Reggie White stayed on the other side of that game, 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: but Sean Jones was enough for me to hand. And 155 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: I was very sore the next day. And uh, Tom 156 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: was not worried about my sword, and as he didn't care. 157 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember saying to him, you think Tony's 158 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna play? He cared about anything but winning. No, no, 159 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: God bless him for that. All right, let's go back 160 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: up to big thing one, which is Trevor Lawrence in 161 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: the grass. But this offense is the last time we'll 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: see the start is on the field until it really 163 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: counts and weak once. This is really Trevor's last day 164 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: to put the final touches on this. I love his 165 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: honesty where he says, I've really been focusing on that 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: interception ratio, the turnovers. Where do you think he is 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: right now? Well, I think he's progressing. I mean, I 168 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: still think there's certain situations we see in the preseason 169 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: where it should be an easy throw and he's just 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: his feet aren't perfect. He just gets a little rushed, 171 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: all fixable. Not worry about it, because then you watches 172 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: he gets comfortable as the game has been going on 173 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: in the preseason, and he makes throws that very few 174 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: guys in this league can make. Um. Now, this will 175 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: be the last before the preseason, but let's not forget 176 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: he has two weeks of practice. There's a lot that's 177 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna be done, and he'll get maybe more reps than 178 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: he has this entire camp because now it's the once. 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: All that matters is getting that first unit ready to go, 180 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: which obviously is Trevor Lawrence. I saw him this morning 181 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: getting coffee. I love the guy's energy. He is like focused, 182 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: he knows what he wants to do, he knows what 183 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: the job is. Um, I'm expecting a big year. Now, 184 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Does that mean all of a 185 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: sudden he's gonna be you know, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, 186 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: don't worry about that. I see great progression where you are. 187 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna be able to put this team on his 188 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: back in the sense of like I'm the leader, I'm 189 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: the guy because he's functioning in a real offense right now. 190 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing, and he said it, I think 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: we'll be fun to watch this year. You have him 192 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: second year quarterback, coming off a tough year because of 193 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: the situation, the organization, and you have a rookie center Luke. 194 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: For those two working together, we might have the making 195 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: of a marriage and hopefully last for a decade. Or 196 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: if you're starting center your franchise quarterback on the same page, 197 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: go ask Indianapolis how that worked. That's right where I 198 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: was going and that that was a phenomenal pairing. Hey, 199 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: just get people understanding of why would a young quarterback, 200 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: especially one is seasoned in the college game, and as 201 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: as Trevor was, why might he be a little uptight? 202 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: What was the term that Doug used, He needs to 203 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: settle down a little bit. What causes a young quarterback 204 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: to rush things not have his technique solid? Especially I 205 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: think it's any position. When you're player heck, I mean 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: as a veteran player, you get in the game those 207 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: adrenaline early, and when you're you have that adrenaline flowing. 208 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman, you can go take it out 209 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: on the guy. I mean, you just that's what you're 210 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: supposed to do. As a quarterback, You've got to be 211 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: calm and let everything kind of come to you, and 212 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: you start trying to press it or rush things. The footwork, 213 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: So I think rushing it is the probably the best 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: explanation because your foot footwork is so important on your accuracy, 215 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and so if all of a sudden he sees it 216 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: and you can tell he saw things early, but then 217 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: he tries to rush it there instead of just taking 218 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: your time to your technique. And I think Doug explained 219 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: it perfectly. He just has to calm down, take a 220 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: deep breath. Because if you look at those preseason games, 221 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: he played the third drive of each game, he calmed down, 222 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: and he was hot, and he was accurate, and he 223 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: was making great throws, and they had these great drives 224 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: put together. It was the first two drives of each 225 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: of each game where he was inaccurate miss guys that 226 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,239 Speaker 1: are open and that's just it's not nerves, it's just relaxing, 227 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: letting the game come to you. You You don't have to 228 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: do everything right away, see it, do your footwork, deliver 229 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: the ball, because the talents there, I mean, that's not 230 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: a question. It's not a question whether he has the 231 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: arm strength, or the athletic ability or the brain. I 232 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: think it's just a young player taking your time, let 233 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: the game come to you right and we see it 234 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: on the third drive for every preseason game. It happens. 235 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: It clicks all right, and not as big things when 236 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: we come back. More of Tony Basselli's impressions of the 237 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: preseason coming up on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back 238 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: to Jaguars Drive Time on a Thursday. We are alive 239 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: from Georgia, getting ready for another joint practice with the 240 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Falcons ahead of a preseason game, the last one of 241 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,119 Speaker 1: this season. We're back with Brian Sexton and Tony Basselli's 242 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: special guests on Drive Time today, and we have lots 243 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: of questions. I guess you could say, really the only 244 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: question left of this final roster is where the right 245 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: tackle position is. Where this battle we've been talking about 246 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: for months we're so ready for an answer so we 247 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: can stop talking about it. Who do you think the 248 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: guy is? I think it's Joan Taylor. I mean I 249 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: think Jowan to won the job. I think if you 250 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: look at the last two weeks he is he's played 251 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: better and I think he went and took the job. 252 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: And I would expect sometime after the last preseason game 253 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: going into prep for the Commanders that Doug Peterson will 254 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: say that he's our right tackle, and early it was 255 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: Walker Little. Well, what changed is Juwan Taylor got healthy 256 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: um and I think Walker Little took a step I'm 257 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: wanna say step backwards, but didn't get didn't continue to 258 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: compete and get better. And when Juan got out there, 259 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: it was clear that Juwan is more prepared in the 260 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: better player right now. As far as who are you 261 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna trust it right tackle? And I don't think Walker 262 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: had a great day yesterday against the Falcons. That doesn't 263 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: mean that he can't and it doesn't mean that you gosh, 264 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: what a failure of a second round pick and all that. 265 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: Forget about that. He's gonna be your swing tackle. He's 266 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: a guy who can play right or left. It gives 267 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: you some confidence that something happens to either tackle. Okay, 268 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we have a capable guy coming in. But the reality 269 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: is Walker Little has a talent. He is physical, he's 270 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: it athletic. I mean, he has all the makings to 271 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: be a really good right, right, or left tackle. But 272 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: now he's gonna go do it. He's gotta go take it. 273 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: He's got to take that next step. He has to 274 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: learn to finish blocks, he has to learn to be 275 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: more physical and to have The best way I can 276 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: describe it is have an urgency about yourself every play 277 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, watching our tackle plays like you 278 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: don't sense that, like every play matters. And I think 279 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: you know. It's gonna be a great lesson for Walker Little, 280 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and I hope he learns from it because it will 281 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: make him a better player to the right side, slow 282 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: his progress at all. Could you imagine having to go 283 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to the right side in college? I played both in 284 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: the game, so the side doesn't matter. Not to me. 285 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: I I've never bought that if you're a good athlete 286 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: and you're talented, you can play either side. I mean 287 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: at s C we had a week and strong tackle 288 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: and you we flipped based on the play. So first 289 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: down I could be right tackle, second be left tackle. 290 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean back and forth. Now I'm not saying that's 291 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: ideal either, but that's how we used to do it 292 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: in my first few years at usc UM. So I 293 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: don't buy that because I saw similar things from him 294 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: at the left side last year. Whether it's technique, camp placement, 295 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: more than anything, it's just finish. It's because he looks 296 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: so good, he does so many good things, but then 297 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: at the point of contact or just late in the play, 298 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: there's just not that finish. And uh, I think that's 299 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: he's a young player and he's gonna have to learn 300 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: from that. He's he's got to learn to do that 301 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: if he wants to be effective at this level. Well, 302 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a great problem to have for the jag Wars. 303 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: It seems like you have all these great options. Well, 304 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: you can never have too many offensive linement. This this 305 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: is a league that you know, everyone talks about the 306 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: skill set, skill positions, what receiver, running back, quarterback, all 307 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: the pass rushers and everything else like that. The reality 308 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: is this, there's only so many big athletic human beings 309 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: on planet Earth. There's just not that many, and so 310 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: you better go find the ones and then you're asking 311 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: to do something that's super unnatural. It's you know, physically. 312 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the hardest positions to play 313 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: in sports because you're asking these big athletic men to 314 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: go block bigger and more athletic people and react to them. 315 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: And so you can't have too many of those guys 316 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: who can do it, and you have to complain space. 317 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: That's the key. That's the big difference between guard and tackle. 318 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Certain guys struggle in space and that's why they become guards. 319 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: And there's some really good guards in the league that 320 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: you know at tackle, they struggle in that space and 321 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: trying to move around and anchor and and uh and 322 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: do that. And so when you find guys who can 323 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: hold onto him. And what about Ben Bart's it seems 324 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: like at first it was a competition, but truthfully, I 325 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: think they always wanted Barts to be the guy, and 326 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: now he seems to be the guy. Well, he is 327 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: the guy. I think they wanted him to go earn it, 328 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: and I think, you know, and that's right, Tyler Shatley 329 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: deserved the opportunity to be the starter. He's veteran, you know, 330 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: respect what he's done. He's played all three positions, you know, interior, 331 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. Don't give it to Ben Bart's see what 332 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: he has inside of him. Can he go compete? Can 333 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: he go take the job into his credit? He did, 334 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: Now he has a ways to go. He still has 335 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: gotta work. He has some things that um you worry 336 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: about the times. My biggest is his feet stop and 337 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: he gets a little straight legged in the past sometimes 338 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: and then he loses guys late, but he has gotten 339 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: better each year. I give him credit. He can tell 340 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: he's worked on it. You can tell it's important. And 341 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: he does have a little bit of an edge to him, 342 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: little nastiness, and I like that about him. So and 343 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: Shatley gives you that confidence because you know that you 344 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: have a guy, especially at that center position, if something 345 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: happened to the rookie or you know whatever, you feel 346 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: confident that you can put him in. That's where you're 347 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: most confident with. Shatley is a guard I mean, excuse me, 348 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: that's center. Just because of his length at guard with 349 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: big defensive tackles, he can get overwhelmed a little bit 350 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: just from the uh length side of it. But he's 351 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: a valuable part of this team and he's been here 352 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: a long time, and it seems like early in his career, 353 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to cut him every time, every every camp, 354 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: like let's get rid of him, and he just said, 355 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: you can't. I'm too important. And that's why I love 356 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Shatley and I love that he's on this team. 357 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: And I think he's also the strongest guy in the 358 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: locker room. And he oh, he's a ridiculous number. Oh 359 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: he is so strong. He is so powerful. If you 360 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: if he gets your his hands on you and you 361 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: get in his phone booth, it's it's it's over. Um. 362 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: He But yeah, he's a good football player and he's 363 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna be He's been playing I portant role on this team. 364 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, let's hope all five guys stay healthy the 365 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: whole time. With Brian. You've been covering this team since 366 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: ninety five. That doesn't happen very often. I can't remember 367 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: the last time it happened, to be honest with you, 368 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: especially up front. You see the injuries around the league. 369 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: The Jets lose their starting right tackle, McKay Peckton. The 370 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: word out of Dallas is Tyron Smith, the left tackle, 371 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowler, is down. I mean you're talking 372 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: about key positions you can't replace. If the Jaguars were 373 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: to lose one of their tackles, what a blessing to 374 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: have a guy like Walker Little. Yeah. No, there's no 375 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: doubt about it, um because the Cowboys, by the way, 376 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: don't have that, don't have that. Young Now you're trying 377 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: to figure ot who you're gonn put it left and listen. 378 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Cam is the best offensive lineman, I mean, best tackle 379 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: on this team. He's he was the best offensive alignment 380 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: last year. Brandon Sheriff has taken that role. But those 381 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: are two really good players, Sheriff and All Pro guy. 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I think Cam has the potential to be that type 383 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: of player. He's got to do some things to take 384 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: his game to the next level. So you don't want 385 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: to lose your top end players. But to Brian's point, 386 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: it's nice to have a little bit of comfort, like 387 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: if something happens, we have a good, strong guy and 388 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: walk a little to rotate. You got Shotley at center 389 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: and interested. I can't even think of the kid's name. 390 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: We just traded for land Van Land. I was watching 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: tape on him this morning a little bit. He's interesting. 392 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's a good player. I like 393 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: that trade. Everyone's like why would you try, and like, well, 394 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: because you need depth. I think this team has a 395 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: lack of depth across the roster. Um. You don't know 396 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: what's going on with will Richardson with the ankle. Right. 397 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: By the way, the kid they traded for, it wasn't 398 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: all big ten left tackle at Wisconsin, so it wasn't 399 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: like he hasn't played the position. Now he's moved into guard. 400 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Sheriff did the exact same thing. 401 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: All big ten left tackle at Iowa moves inside. Five 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. I'm telling this kid this, what's his 403 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: name again, Cole van Lander, I'm gonna call him Cole 404 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Cole uh. Watching him on tape, I like it what 405 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday. He has some he has some length, 406 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: and you can tell that he played he did play 407 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: tackle Wisconsin. So I love the trade. Adds depth. We 408 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: need depth on this team. Um. Looking forward to the 409 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: regular season, you know, when you have Tony on, it's 410 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: gonna be great content. But you're gonna go way over 411 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: we always do. Talking is never our problem. Stopping no, 412 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: I think you know, economy of words is not something 413 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm good at and there's three that you have to 414 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: add at the end of Yes, we'll bite you back. 415 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: You'd just fabulous. Thank you for joining us on Jaguars Drivetime. 416 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back 417 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time Live. Fairy day morning from Atlanta, getting 418 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: ready for a joint practice in the Real Star is back. 419 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Do not worry. John Osier is back with us on 420 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. Thanks for waiting around, No problem. I'll 421 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: gladly defer to the Hall of Famer. He suddenly got 422 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: smarter in August. By the way, Yeah, he's killing it. 423 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Batman's got some good takes about the offensive lines, like 424 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: he knows something well. I was. I was intrigued. I 425 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: thought that Walker Little was gonna win that job. All 426 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: the day on he was gonna win that job. And uh, 427 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: I was fascinated by Tony's comments. I hadn't thought that 428 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: it was that clear cut. But I'll refer to the 429 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yes, seems like John Taylor is the guy. 430 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: As we get ready for Week one against the Commanders 431 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: at this time, for he will he won't. He might 432 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: presented by a set of getting ready for this last 433 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: preseason game, Brian, I'm gonna go with Devin Lloyd because 434 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: we saw him on the practice field yesterday and he 435 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: will plug in and be your opening day started. There's 436 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. The guy was made to run. 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean at two pounds, he looks effortless. Even though 438 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: he hadn't had any reps on the practice field, he 439 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: understood what was going on. And again the story about 440 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: how much tape he watches, how much time he spends 441 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: trying to master the game plan and Noah's opponent, it 442 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: was clear that he was ready for practice yesterday. So 443 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: he'll start an opening day. Um, he won't struggle. I'm 444 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: missing and Tony. Tony talked about this by missing almost 445 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: all of training camp. He's in the guy just I 446 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: think people will be excited about him. Let someone go 447 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: right to the mite, right. They might be as excited 448 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: about him mid season as they are about Trayvon Walker 449 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: because he has the opportunity. He's not as big, right, 450 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: not as imposing, But watching him yesterday you get the 451 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: sense he's going to be all around the ball. And 452 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: remember he had eight sacks. He had four interceptions to 453 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: return for touchdowns. A handful of fumbles for us, a 454 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: handful of fumbles recovered. Uh, he might be a guy 455 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: who gets more attention by the time the season is 456 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: over because his numbers, John I think are gonna be 457 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: quite flashy. Yeah. I think Lloyd is the guy who 458 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: um the defense up front seems solid, stout everything you want. 459 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get pass rush because they're gonna 460 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: stop the run. I think that's gonna have the trigger 461 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: effect that coaches believe it has. But outside of Josh Allen, 462 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that what was coming back had a 463 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: whole lot of special above the exs and o's ability 464 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I made Trayvon Walker has that. I don't know that 465 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna show that that much his rookie year. I 466 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: think he'll continue to show that as he gets older. 467 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: To me, Devon Lloyd, I mean, Devin Lloyd is the 468 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: guy who can come in, make plays behind the line 469 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, make interceptions. He's got a chance, I know, 470 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: if it's the first month throughout the course of this 471 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: season to make this defense special above the exs and nose, 472 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: he could be your Sports Center highlight guy. Absolutely. And 473 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: we're wondering now if he's going to play on Saturday 474 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Truthfully, after seeing him yesterday after our 475 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: interview with Jaguars dot Com, I gravitate towards no seeing 476 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: him in the preseason. But that doesn't matter as long 477 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: as he's ready for Week one, which he said he 478 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: will be. John, I've got to think he plays Saturday, 479 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: But I agree with Tony. If it's not the hamstring 480 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: and he has to be out there, I'm going with 481 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Luke Fordner. Uh, the center. He will obviously be the 482 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: story order this year. I don't know that that was 483 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: assumed in the offseason, but it was clear coming into 484 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: training camp. This coaching staff knew that he was the 485 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: right guy they drafted in to be that guy. There 486 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: was not gonna be any question there. Um, he might be. 487 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry he will, he won't. He won't be a problem. 488 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: Um with the center position. Sometimes you worry as a 489 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: rookie when you're playing. But does he know the offense? 490 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Is he ready? Is he going to be mentally able 491 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: to do that job? Uh, that's the last thing you 492 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: worry about with this kid. From what you hear, he 493 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: is smart picking up the offense. Um, he might I 494 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: have two he might Sprian because this is he will, 495 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: he won't. He might, He might the first he might. 496 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: He might wind up being a better center than the 497 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: guy he replaced. I know really early on that Brandon 498 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Leonard was a really good center for a long time. 499 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: But this kid has the potential. He is better early 500 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people expected, and he might, 501 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: as you guys talked about, he might end up being 502 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: that guy like Jeff Saturday, who I covered Indianapolis forever. 503 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Jeff was a really good physical center um, but his 504 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: strength was as Peyton Manning could read defenses, so could 505 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday. Jeff was outstanding picking up the blitz. He 506 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: was outstanding reading what was happening, and he could even 507 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: help Payton at that point. Over time. I think that's 508 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: the combination you're talking about. It's not necessarily the physical 509 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: ability of a center to help the quarterback. It's the 510 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: mental ability before things get started, pre snap reads. I 511 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: think Luke Fordner eventually would be off the charts good 512 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: at that. You look at some of the great quarterbacks 513 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: Mike Webster in front of Terry Bradshaw, Frank Winters in 514 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: front of Red far There are examples of those guys 515 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: who go through their career together. I'll say this, I 516 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: watched him yesterday. He might be even better next year 517 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: when he gets a year in the weight room. So 518 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: he will, he won't. He might might right to the 519 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: third power um because is a mighty good segment. Man. 520 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: You're quick on your feet. Because I watched the Times 521 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: yesterday him struggle and he's a big, strong guy. Don't 522 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but you know what guys do from 523 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: year one to year two when they get into that 524 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: weight room in that program. He's big and he's strong. 525 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: He's learning the physical side of the game at this 526 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: level and just how big guys and how strong guys are, 527 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: and as good as he is mentally, he's going to 528 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: get better and better as time goes on. When you 529 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: get this offense, and he'll be making calls a line 530 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: of scrimm mechanical engineering and a master's neurospace engineering. I'm 531 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: counting on that. And he will have a great connection 532 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: with quarterback Trevor Lawrence, who will be on the sidelines 533 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: on Saturday's preseason game, and he will take a step 534 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: in the right direction this year. He won't be shy 535 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: that this now means it's all on him. I keep 536 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: going back to last week. He's connecting the dots. He 537 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: won't be shy because I keep going back to last 538 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: week when he talked about and he stated the fact 539 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: that's rather obvious. Yeah, the quarterback doesn't play well, we're 540 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: not gonna win many games. He's got the tight ends, 541 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: he's got the receiver's got the running backs, he got 542 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, he's got the organization behind him. Now 543 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: everything is around him. He won't be shy that, Yes, 544 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: this is now on me to take the next step. 545 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: He might that interception ratio that we always talked about, 546 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that seventeen interceptions last season that led the league. I'm 547 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: going to say that it might be under ten this year. 548 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it goes away. I'm not gonna 549 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: say it's lower than ten. It might be under ten, 550 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: and that we take that. That's a huge step in 551 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: the right direction for Trevor Lawrence. Oh, you definitely take that. 552 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: Under ten would be a a major improvement. Uh, it's 553 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: tough to get under ten if you're throwing a lot, 554 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: because you're naturally going to have won a game. You're 555 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: gonna have some at the end of half where you're 556 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: throwing it up, so that number can be very difficult 557 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: to reach. If he's under ten, is gonna be a 558 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: better team than I thought. What if we go back 559 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: and count the number that are on him right because 560 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: the tip balls, I mean, there's no delineation between a 561 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: ball that's erroneously tipped to a defender. If his number 562 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: of bad throws that result in interceptions is less than ten, 563 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: that's a win to me, absolutely, And at a lot 564 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: of those seven teams were taking chances in the third 565 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: and fourth colar when the game was a So we 566 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: give him that as well. All right, that is, he 567 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: will he won't he might when we come back. Some 568 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: closing thoughts on Jaguars Drive Time. We're back Jaguars Drive 569 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: Time on a Thursday for our last segment with you 570 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: of the week. Roster cuts are coming up on Sunday 571 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: through Tuesday. Have to cut it down to a fifty 572 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: three man roster, a lot of guys fighting for little 573 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: spots for this last preseason game. I'm gonna go ahead 574 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: and make my case that Monterek Buster Brown is going 575 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: to make this team. He's the sixth round draft pick 576 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: out of this last year's draft. I think the Jaguars 577 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: keeps six corners, Shack Griffin, Tyson Campbell, Darius Williams, Trade Herndon, 578 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Chris Claybrooks, and Buster Brown. He's my guy. Ab Brown 579 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: was all sec led the league in interceptions last year. 580 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: From the moment he got here, he felt like he belonged. 581 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: He's been a better tackler and better run support than 582 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: they thought. Absolutely you got. I'm going deep to Josh Thompson, 583 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: young safety undrafted out of Texas. The play he made 584 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: last week on the on the punt where he leapt 585 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: into the end zone and managed to knock it back 586 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: out and pin the deep that set up the safety. 587 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: He has been terrific on special teams. I'm not sure 588 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: that Daniel Thomas, who's a guy I really liked the 589 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: last couple of years, He's gonna be able to hold 590 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: off a young guy. He's big at six ft nearly 591 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds and can contribute on special teams in 592 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: in a big way. So I think that gives him 593 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: a chance to make this team. And it's easy for 594 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: GMS to air on the side of the young guy 595 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: in the battle that you're talking about. I'm gonna go 596 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: with quarterback d J. Perry. I don't know that that's 597 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: uh news. He's gonna make the roster. If he doesn't 598 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: make the roster, he's gonna be on the practice squad. 599 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: And I think their decision is gonna be can we 600 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: keep this guy on the practice squad and not have 601 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: him claimed by somebody else. He was in high demand 602 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft. UM. I think based on 603 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: what we've seen in the quarterback position that some of 604 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: the machinations they've done, they want this guy. They believe 605 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: that he's a good project. I think they want to 606 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: develop a quarterback. I think that's philosophically what they want 607 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: to do. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's on 608 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: the Act of fifty three and you think he takes 609 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: it over Jake Kluton. Oh absolutely, yea, yeah, yeah, confidence, Yeah, 610 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: that's not even the question. It's more if they think 611 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: they can get him through on the practice squad from 612 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: other teams. All right, and there you have it. That 613 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: is our roster predictions for this cut down day coming 614 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: this Sunday. We have a preseason game this Saturday against 615 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons and the joint practice today. Stay with 616 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: us on jaguars dot com for all your coverage the 617 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: rest of the week.