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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning everybody, It's d J M Vy Angela Yee,

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Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. You got special guests.

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Speaker 1: In the building.

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Speaker 4: Columbia, South Carolina, Angie eight O three rhymes.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I can't complain. You know I've been blasted for a

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Speaker 3: long time in this business. You already know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people, I don't think people realize that Angie's one

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Speaker 4: of the Pine is a rap The Sequence your first.

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Speaker 3: Female go yeah, the first female group period to do

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Speaker 3: an original rap record, to do a rap record that

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Speaker 3: gone up the world. We had our neighborhood rappers, we

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Speaker 3: had our New York City rappers, but Sequence was the

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Speaker 3: world's rappers. And I think people get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: Funk funk it up with the song funk you up.

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Speaker 3: Until you got that mixed that with Bruno, I ain't

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Speaker 3: gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Didn't he stample it well?

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Speaker 3: What he did did an interpolation of it up to

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Speaker 3: funk it up. We're gonna uptown funkus, funk you right

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Speaker 3: on up. We're gonna funk you the same thing. Were

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Speaker 3: getting paid no attention right now but guess what it's at. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: my attorney went in and we tried to do some stuff,

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Speaker 3: and of course, because there's three group members and I've

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Speaker 3: been doing my thing for a minute, it kind of

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Speaker 3: pulled the scenes at who's who's with who and who's

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Speaker 3: down with And I just said, you know what, let

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Speaker 3: it rest because we're getting a lot of negative slack

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Speaker 3: because a lot of people that don't know about the

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Speaker 3: sequence or that song. We getting a lot of negative

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Speaker 3: flat because they're like, they don't sound nothing like it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, they don't understand the interpolation process and how

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Speaker 3: you know. The reason we were upset because Bruno admitted

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Speaker 3: that it was influenced by the sequence Wow, and he

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Speaker 3: did that on Instagram and somebody snatched it down.

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Speaker 6: Right, and people do interpolations so that they don't sample.

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Speaker 5: So then they well, doctor d did keep your hands ringing?

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Speaker 3: That was a direct rip from funk you up. They did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we wrote the song, we wrote the melody,

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Speaker 3: wrote the chant, we added singing to hip hop, and

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Speaker 3: now everybody's doing it. It's okay, And I think it's

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Speaker 3: wrong for them to try to overlook us. We're from

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Speaker 3: South Carolina. I mean, what did that go with? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: So y'all ain't get paid from doctor drine e.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we did, ok, but we had he admitted it.

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Speaker 1: He had kept that post paid.

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Speaker 6: But you know it's still there, everything that's been on it.

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Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of it is they admitted it. But

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Speaker 3: the minute the elephant is brought out of the closet,

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Speaker 3: everybody runs because nobody wants to be labeled a thief.

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Speaker 3: And we just say that. I'm very honored, and I

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Speaker 3: got my girl blinding from the sequence here, just back.

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Speaker 1: So excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know Snoop, I've worked with Snoop he did.

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Speaker 3: I want to thank you along with me and Jazzy

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Speaker 3: Fay back in the day. But he wants me to

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Speaker 3: work with his daughter and he wants to work with

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Speaker 3: my son. So we we have a kindred spirit. And

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Speaker 3: l A hip hop was reminiscent to sequence Bunk, that

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Speaker 3: whole funk era. So I just think overall people need

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Speaker 3: to respect the fact that it is what it is.

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Speaker 6: So both of your children are doing music. Pardon me,

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Speaker 6: both of your children are doing music, all right. I

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Speaker 6: guess it's in the blood. Like there was no getting

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Speaker 6: around it.

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Speaker 3: Well, both my kids' fathers I was with of course,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was with Janzelo and then before that,

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Speaker 3: I was with Little Rodney Sea from the Funky four

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Speaker 3: plus one. More so, my daughter sings and my son raps.

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Speaker 3: It kind of went this way.

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Speaker 4: Do you think I think that you should be getting

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Speaker 4: credit as a pioneer female rap Like I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: Then y'all go gold.

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Speaker 3: We went go. We were the first group to go

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Speaker 3: go sell twelve inch records. That means twelve inch records.

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Speaker 3: Along with the Sugar Hill Gang, toured the world pretty much.

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Speaker 3: We never get the recognition, and of course you know

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Speaker 3: that's probably platinum ten times over by now. But we

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Speaker 3: it's got a little salty because you know, we made

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Speaker 3: it out of starting gates. I mean, it's like a race,

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Speaker 3: a marathon race. You're doing the full forty relay, you

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Speaker 3: passed the time, whoever you ended up at the finish line. Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's fair game, you know what.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows the story because well, I'm in New York

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Speaker 2: and is as deep a Miami as in hip hop.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I know, you know, I really had no I

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Speaker 3: had no clue what funk you up?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I knew funk up, but I didn't know that Sequence.

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Speaker 2: The Sequence was the first group that pretty much go

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Speaker 2: gold but as a girl.

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Speaker 3: But who did you think would go first? Oh? And

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Speaker 3: we were ten, well ten fifteen years before them. There

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Speaker 3: used to be a thing you probably wouldn't have to

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Speaker 3: see the cash box called cash box and billboard. If

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Speaker 3: you do your research, it's there. We were the first

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Speaker 3: female group hip hop group period to make cash box

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Speaker 3: and uh, Rolling Stone just did a big article on

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Speaker 3: us because a lot of the people that were back

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Speaker 3: then they knew, why are they getting any attention? And

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Speaker 3: you know, I just think it's sad because a lot

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Speaker 3: of the females hip hoppers. And I trust me, I

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Speaker 3: love them all, big respect props. But learn he'll loves

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Speaker 3: Andrew Stone because it's reminiscent to what she did with

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Speaker 3: her group rap sing and that's what we did.

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Speaker 5: And you guys are all still cool with each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 6: So it was never like a falling out with the

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Speaker 6: group broke up? Who with Sequence?

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Speaker 3: Oh? No, you know you girl group, you have your

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Speaker 3: red peck moments, but we are sisters and at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day. We love each other, we look

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Speaker 3: out for each other, We got each other. We don't

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Speaker 3: always agree, of course, I mean nobody always agrees. But

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Speaker 3: I decided to leave the group early on because I

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Speaker 3: moved to New York. I learned a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: about songwriting. I was a songwriter and a brother named

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Speaker 3: Craig Darry who used to be with the Sugarhill Click,

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Speaker 3: said you need to get out and go to New York.

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Speaker 3: Here event blah blah. And I moved to New York

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Speaker 3: and I learned a lot of stuff. Listen, I want.

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Speaker 2: To start because this is a history lesson for a

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Speaker 2: lot of myself. So you signed to Sugar Hill Gang.

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Speaker 2: How did you get signed? How did you? First of all,

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Speaker 2: how did you get into hip hop? How did you

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Speaker 2: get signed? And how did you get your deal? Because

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like before where now where it's internet is

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Speaker 2: TV that's playing hip hop.

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Speaker 3: Radio wasn't playing hip hop back then?

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Speaker 1: How did you get into it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Coming from Columbia, South Carolina and it was sixteen seventeen,

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Speaker 3: eighteen years old, we had a group that was doing

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Speaker 3: rap back then. Kington the Third was out and we

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Speaker 3: wrote a song called funk you up. I think Sylvia

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Speaker 3: Robinson came to South Carolina. It was the first leg

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Speaker 3: of the first sugar Hill Game tour, the first show,

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Speaker 3: The road manager from sugar Hill Gang saw me and

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Speaker 3: thought I was just pretty chocolate chick. How to come

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Speaker 3: back second? So I said, well, if you let me in,

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Speaker 3: you gotta let my friends in. So we all came in,

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Speaker 3: got backstage. Sylvie was backstage and was literally on the

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Speaker 3: stage and we said, hey, we wrap and she said, well,

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Speaker 3: and we went, funk you right on up, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: funk you right and she flipped. She said, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: sitting in the dressing room giving our phone numbers. She says,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you girls start now. We had already

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Speaker 3: been a group, I mean at you know, being a cheerleader,

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Speaker 3: seeing John some writing cheers and creating stuff like that

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Speaker 3: was what we did. And she called us the very

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Speaker 3: next week, Wow blew us to New Jersey off our.

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Speaker 3: You know, we was talent show bound doing everything everybody did,

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Speaker 3: but just in South Carolina and we cut the record

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Speaker 3: Funk You Up, and a couple of weeks later I

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Speaker 3: thank it. Three weeks record went golding through.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Was it a fair deal or did they take advantage

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Speaker 1: of y'all?

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Speaker 3: Of course it took advantage. Well, we did have a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: but he was a South Carolina lawyer. We thought we

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Speaker 3: were doing the right thing. But you know, one thing

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Speaker 3: I've learned in life is you have to have experience. Yes, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Sylvie Robinson, I give him mad props because, quite contrary

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Speaker 3: to what a lot of people think. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you're the first at anything, you're gonna make mistakes. So

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Speaker 3: I lean heavily to that because she did something phenomenal

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Speaker 3: that turned out to be greatful a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: But you had to have some crash jest.

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Speaker 1: What did the stand power been like like?

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Speaker 4: Transitioning from a hip hop artist to a R and

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, writer, well, I tell you the blessing For me,

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Speaker 3: I'm as sage and I think out the box. One

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Speaker 3: of the things I always hated was when I saw

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Speaker 3: I did was I learned to be a chameleon, and

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Speaker 3: did was I kept myself around fresh hotness, and I

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Speaker 3: learned everything in life is a learning process. The moment

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Speaker 3: we think we know everything, we absolutely know nothing that's right.

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Speaker 3: So I learned to be a comedian and change with

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Speaker 3: the times. So the stay in power has been number one.

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Speaker 3: My faith is unshakable in Christ. I love the Lord,

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Speaker 3: when the music changed, you changed too. But you can't

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Speaker 3: straight too far away from who you are and with you.

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Speaker 4: But it seems like you you're such a great singer

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Speaker 4: that it's like I can't see you ever doing anything else.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you even used to rap?

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Speaker 3: What the beauty if? That was? When we got discovered

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Speaker 3: as rappers. One the first question I asked Sylvie Robinson

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Speaker 3: is is Robinson? Is it okay if I sing too?

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Speaker 3: Because I wanted to put a hook. You don't want

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Speaker 3: to sing. So when you say that, hey, you said no,

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Speaker 3: that I was begging to do that because I knew

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Speaker 3: one day in life I wanted to sing from the church.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I love rap, but I can sing too,

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Speaker 3: so can we combine it too? And she's so excited

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Speaker 3: about the rap, she said, Oh, I need you do

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Speaker 3: what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And that that is what kind of set the segue

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Speaker 3: thirty years old, you want to transition from hip hop

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Speaker 3: to hooray. So I just went ahead and started singing

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Speaker 3: and you know, kind of juggling now when I did

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Speaker 3: my deal with Arista. The one reason you don't know

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Speaker 3: No, they don't know, but but but I promise you

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Speaker 3: Because she served me drinks? Wow? You she was a waitress.

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Speaker 6: Did she say you know I'm an aspiring singer.

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Speaker 3: And when you overlook the fact that Hey, Little Run

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Speaker 4: When I think of like sugar Hill Gang, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: and I mentioned Sequence.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I don't understand when the sugarhar Girl

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Speaker 1: Yeah for the guys too.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear what I just said? Yeah, apache one

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Speaker 4: Were all getting paid Yeah good money.

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Speaker 6: Is a movie going to be Do you know where

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Speaker 3: It will be, it will be. Uh, it won't be

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Speaker 4: So you know, what advice would you give to this

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Speaker 3: Well they will forget I mean because the unfortunately, the

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Speaker 2: So it's that to take it serious though, because a

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Speaker 3: We had fun. You asked for somebody else and we

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Speaker 6: All right, So let's talk about your children and their

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: Did you guys ever think you were going to end

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Speaker 3: Now, my daughter's father's a little roundie see for four

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Speaker 3: To get married. So I got married for that reason,

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Speaker 5: You're trying. Thing was.

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Speaker 3: same thing I made in New York. So you know,

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Speaker 6: So then you had the highly publicized relationship with DiAngelo,

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Speaker 6: Around like when all of that was happening, and you

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Speaker 3: it wasn't all that stuff going on. By that time

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Speaker 3: make it look. Because at this point, like if you

438
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: take somebody who you're trying to get in the game

439
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: and say hey, I need you to hook up, it's like,

440
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: right now, anybody connected to Beyonesce I gonna win, you know.

441
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: So if you're winning, you want to put people that

442
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: you want to win with winning people. And I think

443
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: that's where they kind of I'm gonna use the word tick,

444
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: you know, because the tick sucks the blood out of

445
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 3: a situation. And I think the industry, the conglomerate of

446
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: people kind of used that situation to count.

447
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: But you was already like a couple couple of solo

448
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 4: albums in by the time you got with him, right

449
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 4: one one.

450
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: I just thot my first I was with Vertical Hole.

451
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 3: When I got with him, I wouldn't even end my

452
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: solo career yet.

453
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 6: When did you guys fall in love? Because like you said,

454
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 6: you had known him before Brown Sugar and everything.

455
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 3: You knew him before abs No, I when I before

456
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 3: you guys knew him? I knew him, but it was

457
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: just it was chemistry. We worked in the studio and

458
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: as we were working it just you know, the same

459
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: magic you heard that was being created was something that

460
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: was being created that that creator created lot. I didn't

461
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: do that. I didn't even go oh, oh my God,

462
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: I want you now. It was never that.

463
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 6: I remember working for his management team and they didn't

464
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 6: like the fact that he was having a baby because

465
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 6: they felt like it would take away from him as

466
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 6: this sexy can't control God.

467
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: That that I didn't make the baby by myself. He

468
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: didn't make the baby by you know, when people get

469
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: when that happens, it happens. You don't playing it. You

470
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 3: don't you know, you can't say, oh tonight, I can

471
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: I have a baby? You just don't do that. That's

472
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: a part of God's plan. But you know, I'm sure

473
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like you just ever got married.

474
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: But you can't stop this work so mad. But I'm

475
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: just making a point. People, you know, you can't dictate

476
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 3: what happened. And they might not have liked him having

477
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: a baby. I didn't know. He didn't want a baby

478
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: something he wanted. No, absolutely, And my thing is I

479
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: think that people read way too much into again dollars

480
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: and cents right that all he was a check for them.

481
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely, how did the relationship?

482
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Why did they go left?

483
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: See? If I tell you all that, you won't watch

484
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: the movie playing just for the sake of being being

485
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: who it's really about me. It's like anything you put

486
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: too much pressure on a situation. You take somebody who

487
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 3: is again thirsty, hungry to be successful. And I don't

488
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: know what they said behind closed doors. I don't know

489
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: what they did. I don't know how they push buttons.

490
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: I can only tell you a lot of stuff was done,

491
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: but it wasn't a normal It hurt us both to

492
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: break up and and I can honestly tell you that

493
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: it affected us and it still affects my life, his life,

494
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: my son's life. It's still those kind of moves hurt people,

495
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, you're not happy

496
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: because at the core it's not where you.

497
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: The industry broke.

498
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: I can't say that. I can't say that without really

499
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: going into but I mean, you could be able to

500
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: tell me. You should be able to tell me. Do

501
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: you think we working on all?

502
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 5: Do you think I know you did it?

503
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: Okay?

504
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: How the label you when you got pregnant? Your label?

505
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: They can't dictate my life because I'm a woman. It's

506
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: like Lauren here, she did say, y'all can't tell me

507
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: I'm a woman, so at should I not have children

508
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: because I have a record or should you know? You

509
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: have to look at life and say, should I put

510
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: everything that God has intended for me on hold to

511
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: accommodate the people that are leaches? No, if you want

512
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: what I got, you got to take all of me.

513
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: And that's just said. So yes, I had two children,

514
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: and if I could have had ten children, I would.

515
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: I was an only child, so I loved big family.

516
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: But I did put myself on hold so that I

517
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: wouldn't have all these babies because you know, I wanted

518
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: to work. I want to have a life.

519
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: Was it a hard core parenting with with the agelong?

520
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: It's hard coparenting with anybody if you're not married.

521
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: Mm, especially y'all. Y'all both on TOI all the time.

522
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 4: Schedules crazy, all of us.

523
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: Like I said, both my children fathers are in the

524
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: entertainment business, and it's harder for anybody who is not

525
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: living together every day to co parent if you're both traveling.

526
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, my husband is God.

527
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 3: The reason I say that is because that's who helped

528
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 3: me sustain the life with my children.

529
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 6: Was there ever a time that you were disenchanted with

530
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: this music business having been at such a young age

531
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 6: and said I don't wanna do this anymore?

532
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Absolutely, I've quit four or five times and people going, oh,

533
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: we need you, we need you, we need you. So, yes,

534
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: disenchanted is the right word.

535
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: Uh.

536
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: I think because I see the good, the bad, and

537
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: the ugly, and because a lot of people that are

538
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: in the uh you know, the the fans don't see

539
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: the perimeter, and we see the perimeter. It makes you

540
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: say you have to pick and choose how you're gonna

541
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: use your gift. So I choose to use my gift

542
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: in lyrics and in positive messages and real messages so

543
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: that the people that are listening from a heart space

544
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: get it. So I can't really be consumed with oh

545
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: they not they not recognizing me. Oh they're not doing

546
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: this cause they didn't give.

547
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: Me a gift.

548
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: What happen with your daughter? You got an incident with

549
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: your daughter. I know that was publicized everybody.

550
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: Hell, I mean since their daughter we go through we

551
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: all right, that's my daughter. The beautiful thing is when

552
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: we were raised and and and and he could tell

553
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: you this from South. Our parents didn't play with us. Okay.

554
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: I used to get a straightened call, throw straight across

555
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: the room at me, or a shoe or boot what

556
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: they could grab. So the reality is we were raised

557
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: in a certain way and disrespect is not tolerated. That's

558
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: the fabric of who I am now. My daughter and

559
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: my son, they can wear me out. I'm gonna stay

560
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: throw something at you if you make me mad, because

561
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 3: that's not how we do. She have kids of her

562
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: own now, and I have to get between her. Hey wait,

563
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: but it's called family. And the only reason it gets

564
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: magnified to the tenth power is because inquiring minds want

565
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: to know. If I didn't have a name, that wouldn't care.

566
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: So but my daughter's mind, that's my heart.

567
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: And when you get beat as a kid, when you

568
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: get older and you know the objects don't work no more,

569
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: and you think you can raise up on your dad

570
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: exactly raised up on her mama.

571
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Put them hands up there. Let me see where you're at.

572
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, cause you can't. You can't come at me,

573
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: want to fight me like a street person, and I

574
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: and I just get the bell, or that ain't gonna

575
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: worry or we were pulling up Now now that's my

576
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: baby she you know. But y'all good always.

577
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 6: So you think about making timeless music, right, because you

578
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 6: have songs that you've done so long ago that today

579
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 6: still are relevant and still people could listen to it

580
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 6: like it's brand new.

581
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: But that's what I was talking about. You know, you

582
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: have to know your purpose. And that's what I meant

583
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: when I said creating music that meets the mind of

584
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: people that it touches, because you know, when we're gifted

585
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: with certain things, we're gifted for a purpose, and when

586
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: we make ourselves more important than the purpose, we lose

587
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: the gift. So I had to make sure that I

588
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: didn't get consumed with everything that everybody else worries about

589
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: in terms of, oh, you ain't working it like a lot.

590
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: I've never been invited to black girls rock, no man,

591
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: never wow, come on now, but I love black girls

592
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: rock rock.

593
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: Come on now, that's just ridiculous.

594
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, if I let little stuff like

595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: that stop me from rocking as a black girl, hmm,

596
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: then I've lost the purpose.

597
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm about to hit Connie right now that ain't even right.

598
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: I'm gone.

599
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: I'm only saying that because a lot of people come

600
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: to me, you come right around. Oh really, no, they

601
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: haven nobody to me, So I would never assert myself.

602
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: And this goes back to the way the industry shapes

603
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: the situation because of another situation.

604
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about some other things, because we're developing

605
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: reality shows. But you've also been on reality television, right,

606
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 6: R and B Divas and so what was your experience?

607
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 6: Because they did it wasn't what I thought it was

608
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: going to be or what you thought it was going

609
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: to be. Ridthinck and Angie Stone is going to come in.

610
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 6: She's the voice of reason, She's the person that's going to.

611
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Well that's what they hired me for. When I went

612
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: just the backstory to R and B Divas. Uh, when

613
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: before the show was created, I had created a show similar.

614
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: So the same guy Peel who put the second show

615
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: together was a person that I was working with the

616
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: development show. So same idea faith had I had and

617
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: NICKI And when they called me and said yeah, well

618
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: we can all do it together, said okay. I thought

619
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: I was gonna be a producer on that. And then

620
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: when we addressed it. They said, well, we've already done contracts.

621
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: We've done d D d D. I said, okay, well I

622
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: want to I let go. I walked back because I

623
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: realized it's crazy. So the second season, I got a

624
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: call from TV one and they said, hey, look, these

625
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: girls are fighting too much. They're doing this, they're doing that,

626
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: and you you know, we all love you, we respect you.

627
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: We need you to begin in here and try to

628
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: smooth things out. So I said, okay, that's easy enough

629
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: for me. So my purpose for being a part of

630
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: the show was to make them focus on who they

631
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: were as singer, even though they had to cat fight

632
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: stuff going on. I my job was just to try

633
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: to smooth it over. Well, of course his reality TV

634
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: and I learned this the hardway. They turned that thing

635
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: all the way around and like who you think you

636
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: have and blah blahlah, and I'm like this, Hell, I'm

637
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: old enough to know the difference, still young enough to

638
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: make a difference. You need to chill, okay. So it

639
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: really ticked me off because even though they didn't know

640
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: the ins and outs of my being there to smooth

641
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: things out, they used to get upset when I say, well,

642
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: let's sing something. Look, I'm trying to help y'all stay relevant.

643
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: Let's sing something. People need to hear your voices in

644
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: this capacity. But they, I think, underneath it all, they

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: trying to figure out why she's still doing this and

646
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: I sing better than her, and I'm not here and

647
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm not there, and I think that was the problem.

648
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: They became a little bit envious of the fact that, well,

649
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: who she thinks she is, I was their biggest dress

650
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: and as a result, I say, you know, I don't

651
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: want a part of this.

652
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you walked off during the reunion.

653
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: I walked off because once they started to manipulate, and

654
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, I was not comfortable with the lives of

655
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: touring and I'm like, look, I can't let you guys

656
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: destroy my brand. I've been doing this almost forty years

657
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: at this point, so I'm not willing to throw my

658
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: entire life away because you need five minutes of fame.

659
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: So y'all got this. I'm good over here.

660
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 6: They were even trying to say that your husband slept

661
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: with my husband, I mean your boyfriend at the time,

662
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 6: our manager slept with somebody from the staff.

663
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: You know what, I really don't want to address that

664
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: because he's fighting for his life right now, so I

665
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: kind of don't want to go there. That's a very

666
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: good friend of mine that had some wonderful times with

667
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: and yes there's been a lot of rumors about a

668
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: lot of things, and if you saw the show then

669
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: you saw it was very uncomfortable for us. But again

670
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: manipulative and you know, he just had a very very

671
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: bad motives. Okay, been been down.

672
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: We'll pray for him.

673
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: Thank you. I don't want to go there.

674
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: Why did you name the new album full Circle?

675
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. I dictate the success of

676
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: my album based on the title. When I did Mahogany

677
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: so all I went to this whole Mahogany Vibe, Barushka

678
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: lipstick and all this, because I think that a song

679
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: or a title of a song dictates the strength of it.

680
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: Full Circle. I'm at a place where I've seen this

681
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: industry do this, go around and around. It's the same

682
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: old thing. And I wanted to get back to Angie Stone,

683
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: the one that when I started out when I did Mahogany,

684
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: So when I did Black Diamond, I wanted to say, Okay,

685
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: I've tried all these other things. Let me go back

686
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: to me and full circle is the complete circle of

687
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: in my opinion, Well, I've come full circle and I

688
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: know who I am. I know whose I am, I

689
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: know what I've survived. If I walked away today, I

690
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: can say I am a survivor, and full circle dictates

691
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: that and the end of themself. The fact that we've

692
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: got five stars out of five stars on everything across

693
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: the Border, and this album proves that you know, stamp out,

694
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: whether it's seventy nine or twenty nineteen, it's who you are.

695
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: You know what your purpose is. So I'm good.

696
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: You know what I noticed too about music, Sometimes when

697
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 6: we go through the most tragic things, that's when the

698
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 6: best songs, yes come out of it. Do you feel

699
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 6: like that's true for you?

700
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: I do. You know, just about two months ago, I

701
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: was fighting for my life and when a lot of

702
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: people don't notice, but when the album dropped, I was

703
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: just getting back to myself and I realized at that point,

704
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Now it's time to just

705
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: make a life, enjoy this thing again, get back to

706
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: the to the place where music matters, because I think

707
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: at some point it's so much mess going on that

708
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: music doesn't matter anymore, and I wanted to make some

709
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: music that matter. And this is the time in my

710
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: life where I'm at my greatest. I think I've walked

711
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: a powerful journey. That t shirt that she has on,

712
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: it's about me and the men in my life. These

713
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: are all the people that I ever did do it,

714
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: and I've worked with almost every one. Are the artists

715
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: of our generation.

716
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.

717
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: So that's a specialty that I'm working on because not

718
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: many people can say that. And I say, everybody is

719
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: so worried about who's Angie's dating me and the men

720
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: in my life. I ain't dating all these guys, but

721
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: I've worked with them all, you know, So I'm in

722
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: a good space.

723
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: What was wrong with you two months ago? What was it?

724
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: You don't want to say, no, no, no, what. I'm a diabetic,

725
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: you know, I've been, you know, dealing with that. I

726
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: have a diabetic that was produced induced by pregnant zone

727
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: and I I had a chemical spell at Presbyterian Hospital

728
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: when I was twenty six years old that exposed me

729
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: to a German cause the diabetes because the medicine that

730
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: had to give me. So when you guys saw me yay, big.

731
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: It was the medicine. But a lot of people like,

732
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: oh why are you with that? Big figure said, you

733
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: don't know my story. So now that I'm completely healed

734
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: and I ain't got my little swag back, you ain't

735
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: had none. But let the world tell it. She was

736
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: this big, fat girl. But again, you got to watch

737
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: a movie.

738
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 5: She is selling this movie right now.

739
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: Are you scared to have a popied chicken sandwich? Are

740
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 1: you scared to have a popeised chicken sandwich?

741
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, honey, okay, I'm not scared. But I don't

742
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: eat fried stuff like that. Never have. I don't eat

743
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: like a bunch of junk food, never have. So but

744
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: you know you can eat, but you have to eat right.

745
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: You can't just.

746
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: Hard coming from will you come front?

747
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: No? But I cooked. See they're not season my food.

748
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Without using her that you know. Somebody said, don't.

749
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: I don't use all that stuff like a lot of

750
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: people use a lot of heavy salt. You can use

751
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: lemon and it tastes just like salt. You have got

752
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: to just know. Now, we love to cook, don't get

753
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: me wrong. Ox tails and then cooked all of that.

754
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Now, but.

755
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: You don't have to eat unhealthy. You know, I think

756
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: God has preserved me all this time because he knows

757
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: my heart and he knows I'm gonna do right. So

758
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: that don't mean I don't sneak every now and then.

759
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: And then, yeah, are you trying somebody to play you yet?

760
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: For the ball, I got some ideas. That's some ideas

761
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: a couple of people that I really really am interested.

762
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: I know one segment of Ane Stone.

763
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 5: Is your daughter to be in it, of course.

764
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: But the young lady that used to be Burning Max's daughter. Okay,

765
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we appreciate you for joining us. Yes, thank you,

766
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: Thank you a whole lot. Okay, I learned the whole definitely.

767
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 6: I've always wanted to meet you, so I'm glad I

768
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: had an opportunity.

769
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm glad mainly because you know the back story to

770
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff that I've been hating on

771
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: for for years. I think, you know, being involved with

772
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: the sex symbol can be a blessing.

773
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: I was like, who is she involved with?

774
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: Well, Angie Stone, thank you for joining us.

775
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: Angie Stone.

776
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,