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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Badly Bet coming soon to Ohio on fifty

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Hey, here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Oh, let's do a live on a Victory

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily presented by Tito's Handmade Vodka.

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Speaker 1: The cream is in Victory's in the Wind column. My

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Speaker 1: friend Kareem Hunt went over fifty yards for the first

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Speaker 1: time and night he ran. He sure did. And the

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Speaker 1: Browns one. I tell you, guys, if you're paying attention,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's exactly as it was laid

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Speaker 1: out on this program all week leading up to the

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Speaker 1: game by him, basically by Gibbe. Honestly, Gibbey had it

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Speaker 1: everything bad for our offense and somehow around everything bad.

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Speaker 1: That's what you predicted. It feels good to be right

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Speaker 1: and want to know this week? Do you worry? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But you're like, you're like, we're not running it effectively,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to throw it effect not even thirty

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Speaker 1: seconds into the show, you're being negative. What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: You were negative? But you had I went four and one,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, hold on a second hold on

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Speaker 1: a second ye five and and now I keep going backwards. No,

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Speaker 1: you went five and oh because isn't missed one. He

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Speaker 1: got Chubb Watson under Watson rating under Brown's first half

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Speaker 1: touchdowns two point five under Sex interceptions, fumbles over and

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Speaker 1: that was under and that's the one. That's the one

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Speaker 1: he missed because he always misses that one. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't it no matter what. But no matter what, you'll

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Speaker 1: be in first place. Look, it can be um, it

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Speaker 1: can be both that it's awesome to get a win

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Speaker 1: that it's crazy to get one with a from our team,

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Speaker 1: A punt return touchdown, a fumble return touchdown. One of

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Speaker 1: the most ridiculous interceptions from John Johnson that I think

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. It was a stunning happenstance. I don't

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Speaker 1: right place, right time, ball doesn't hit the ground feed in.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was stunning way to start the game.

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Speaker 1: It was like the guy caught the ball, fell the ground,

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Speaker 1: then volleyball set it up for John Johnson and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll catch that. But he did tremendous job to get

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Speaker 1: his feet in. I thought that was that can't be

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Speaker 1: overlooked for John. Yeah, he really did. And it can

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Speaker 1: be all that, and it can also be and then

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Speaker 1: this isn't no way a reflection of what I anticipate

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Speaker 1: this will look like in the relatively short term and

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Speaker 1: certainly in the long term. That it was disappointing, how

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Speaker 1: far through it, I mean, that's all part of it.

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Speaker 1: There were flashes of brilliance. You saw it. He throws

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Speaker 1: He's like, wow, he throws a lot harder, a lot

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Speaker 1: faster than than Jacoby. Um. But also seven days is real, brother,

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Speaker 1: And oh yeah, and it was. And he one hops

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Speaker 1: It was like eight yards short like some of that stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: some of the misreads that he had were real. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that you can learn all of

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Speaker 1: this amidst to win and that's a lot more fun. Um.

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna be a work in progress for

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Speaker 1: him to get back to game form. Yeah, that was it. Look,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't our line's best day either, which I think

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Speaker 1: our special team stepped up Donovan People's jones at a

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Speaker 1: felt so bizarre. Down five nothing, that punt returned the

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Speaker 1: That punt return electrified everything. And that wasn't an immediate

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Speaker 1: which they did. I mean it was eight. Basically they

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Speaker 1: And the reality is, and I think you hit it right.

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Speaker 1: massive improvement this week. That offensive performance will get us beaten,

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Speaker 1: You got it out of the way. If I had anything,

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Speaker 1: but I would have used that fourth quarter to throw

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Speaker 1: seemed more comfortable out of shotgun than under center, clearly

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Speaker 1: and you know you're still in it. You're five and seven,

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Speaker 1: the NFL and fourth quarter rushing yards that's Nick Chubb time.

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Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, with what's happened in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: which is unreal that they pulled that out, they go

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Speaker 1: actually talked about it in the first quarter, like we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get one in this room today, We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a uh interceptions room. That happened to be me, But

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Speaker 1: I mean we're all excited. We always try to stress takeaway.

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Speaker 1: So and you did do that walk us through since

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Speaker 1: it was the touchdown, and then I want to want

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Speaker 1: to walk us through the two plays, the forced fumbl

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Speaker 1: that leads a Denzel's touchdown and then your interception. The touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Start with the the one near the goal line that

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Speaker 1: that really started to turn things around Forest fumble man

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Speaker 1: Um quarterback ghosts and tries to dive and get some

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Speaker 1: extra couple of yards and he sticks the ball out

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I mean, anybody knows that the

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Speaker 1: quarterback dives with the ball. You got to take your

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Speaker 1: shot at the ball. You got a prince at it.

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Speaker 1: So I went in and took my shot. Between me

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Speaker 1: and Takie, we got a little vice tackle on them.

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Speaker 1: Took our shot and the ball came out. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: looks like a little left hand from you, a right

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Speaker 1: hand from tak A deadly combination. And then Denzel gets

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Speaker 1: surrounded in becoming the first Brown ever to have too

447
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: funnel recovery touchdowns in the same season, and they couldn't

448
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Speaker 1: have been They couldn't have been easier when just the

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00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: balls just in the end zone against Pittsburgh, and then

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Speaker 1: Tony and Toki get it for this one. And then

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Speaker 1: on the interception where you guys blew up that screen,

452
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Speaker 1: What was that? What do you see? How did you

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Speaker 1: diagnose it? And then when the ball is in the air,

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Speaker 1: what was going through your mind? Oh? Man, Um, I

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Speaker 1: mean we're trying to get to the quarterback, as you

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Speaker 1: can see, you me Miles in Chafe, I mean, thanks

457
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Speaker 1: to Chase the tip of the ball, let my guy.

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Speaker 1: But um, we're all just trying to get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You stacked the quarterback and once that ball tip, Um,

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Speaker 1: we stretched something in our defensive groove. Tips and overthrows

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Speaker 1: we gotta get those. So any time in practice we

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Speaker 1: see a ball tip if we flow to the ball.

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Speaker 1: So it was like coming muscle memory now, So as

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Speaker 1: soon as I see a ball tip or it's fallen

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Speaker 1: on the ground, I started skipping get to the ball.

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Speaker 1: So I can't be the first one to the ball.

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Speaker 1: So it happened to work and I was in the

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Speaker 1: right place at the right time. Can you believe that

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Speaker 1: official tried the one guy was like, that was an

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Speaker 1: incomplete pass. I mean the ball went up off of

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Speaker 1: a tip into the air and you caught it and

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Speaker 1: ran it in unbelievable Well, Tony, congratulations man, So happy

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Speaker 1: for you. And and there's more to come. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot more to come. Five more games, starts

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Speaker 1: with the big one down Cincinnati. Absolutely, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for having me all right, Tony, thanks man,

477
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Speaker 1: great stuff out of him. I love seeing guys putting

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Speaker 1: the put in the work, and then you have a

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Speaker 1: day like that and that the dad catches unbelievable. If

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, folks, I hadn't until Givvy. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that has made it to the will

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Speaker 1: well it should, it should. It's a stunning display and

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Speaker 1: for and no no worries about one's own health or

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Speaker 1: other amazing. I believe our video guys are the ones

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Speaker 1: that got that. Oh so when you asked the question,

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Speaker 1: I thought it gone viral. I'm like I knew he knew, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But like I don't know that for sure. I'm trying

488
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Speaker 1: to get the information on that. But the hell of

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Speaker 1: a catch. Yeah, I have a still photo of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I looking at? And then the

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Speaker 1: video came and I'm like, oh oh, it's him literally

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Speaker 1: upside down in the stands. Amazing, what's that? What do

493
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Speaker 1: you got? Pick up? Pick up your phone right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what do we got here? theF what

495
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Speaker 1: is he doing? Oh my goodness, Oh my all cowboy regalia.

496
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Speaker 1: Look at Texas on a birthday week hunt Look at him.

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Speaker 1: I like this character to the right, It looks like

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Speaker 1: a great compatriot for the half. This guy, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that guy. That guy kind of looks like a Wisconsin rougher.

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Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper kind of got that look to him. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not I love. This is unbelievable. Is he in

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Speaker 1: a he is a bolow today? He's in a denim

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Speaker 1: He's in a denim pearl snap, look at the bolt like,

504
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Speaker 1: look at the bolo though, I mean the buloo a stallion.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. This is an elite crew of operators.

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Speaker 1: This is incredible. Yeah, I need to know what airport

507
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Speaker 1: in Texas. These are things that need to be sorted out. Um,

508
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: we have a lot more to sort out from this one.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it is a victory Monday. Let unbelieve a moment.

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Speaker 1: What a moment you'll hear from coach to Fanski his

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Speaker 1: presser coming up next. You will to clean the Browns

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Speaker 1: Now let's head to the podium and Kevin Stefanski from

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Speaker 1: earlier today. You know, yesterday, very very proud of our

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Speaker 1: football team going on the road getting a w which

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Speaker 1: we set out to do. Uh So, proud of the

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Speaker 1: effort obviously talking about the defensive scoring twice, special team

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Speaker 1: scoring was outstanding, So team effort um and then we

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Speaker 1: got to look for ways to improve and we got

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Speaker 1: to do that this week going on the road versus

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Speaker 1: a division opponent, an opponent we know well, they know

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Speaker 1: us well, so December football in your division. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to the challenge. But with that, I'll take any questions

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Speaker 1: coach real quickly on what it What did it mean

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Speaker 1: do you guys to have him step up into a

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Speaker 1: tough spot with other injuries and and play at the

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Speaker 1: level that he did. Yeah, you know, talks one of

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Speaker 1: my favorites. Plays very very physically, loves this game, plays hard,

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Speaker 1: great teammate, and like you mentioned, he was playing more

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Speaker 1: for us than he had in the past, and his

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Speaker 1: role had had expanded because he earned it. I was

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Speaker 1: playing out a physician so to speak. We moved him

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Speaker 1: to mica linebacker and he was doing a really nice job. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, disappointed for him, but excited for what that's

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Speaker 1: gonna mean for some other guys stepping up. And also,

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Speaker 1: I know what's gonna do with this rehab, like he

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Speaker 1: always does, He's gonna attack it and and be ready

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Speaker 1: to go uh next year. As far as de Sean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think understandable rust with with the layoff Kevin.

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Speaker 1: What can you guys do this week to kind of

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Speaker 1: accelerate him getting back to being the Deshaun Watson you

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Speaker 1: need him to be. Yeah, I think kind of like

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Speaker 1: we talked about yesterday, you know, that was the first

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Speaker 1: one and the first one in a long time, so

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Speaker 1: we knew that there's gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: playing through that, and I think he gets that. He'll

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Speaker 1: get more comfortable with with the more game reps that

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Speaker 1: he gets um and I think all those things that

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Speaker 1: that you look at offensively, all the things that you

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Speaker 1: look at with Deshaun, they're all correctable. Hey, Kevin, staying

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Speaker 1: on deshn Um the issues yesterday, especially the inaccuracy, I

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Speaker 1: guess some of those low throws, Like do you attribute

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Speaker 1: all the issues to just the long layoff? Yeah? Again,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just think it's always getting back to

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Speaker 1: the basics, specifically for DeShawn. Yeah, there's a long layoffs,

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Speaker 1: so there's certain things that will only come with more

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Speaker 1: game reps and more practice. Uh. And I expect that

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Speaker 1: to happen. And you know, I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: times coaches talked about to jump from week one to

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Speaker 1: week two or year one, year two, Like, do you

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Speaker 1: think it's reasonable to expect that he makes a big

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Speaker 1: jump into start number two? Yeah, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put any type of expectations on it, per se, Scott.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to go find a

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Speaker 1: way to win. That's what we did yesterday, going to

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Speaker 1: go on the road against a really good opponent this week.

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Speaker 1: We just got to find a way to win. Yeah, coach,

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Speaker 1: you know you've been obviously stressing it. We've asked you

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Speaker 1: all year about the takeaways. But I think you had

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Speaker 1: eight all year, and you had half that yesterday turned

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Speaker 1: into twenty four points. Does that just reinforce, you know,

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Speaker 1: to the players how that single hand and lake can

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Speaker 1: be the difference in in these games without a doubt, Fred,

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Speaker 1: I mean to go get four takeaways, to score twice

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Speaker 1: on defense obviously, to score um on special teams, to

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Speaker 1: take the ball away on special teams. Those are the

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Speaker 1: type of things that you're always looking at doing that.

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Speaker 1: Those help you win ball games, and as you know,

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Speaker 1: they seem to come in bunches. So we're always looking

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Speaker 1: for multiple games where we can get multiple takeaways because

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Speaker 1: it does it really changes the complexion of these games.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And then when I asked you about the

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Speaker 1: offensive line too, um, it seems like it's been on

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Speaker 1: to sink a little bit uh lately. And do you

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Speaker 1: think is that how because of the injury, the Ethan

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Speaker 1: posting or what? What? Do you how do you attribute that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean ran the ball effectively yesterday, Jeff. So I think,

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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, with Ethan's injury, gotta you know, Yell

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Speaker 1: just stepping up and doing a nice job for us.

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Speaker 1: But I think weekend and week out you're going up

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Speaker 1: against some very difficult fronts, and I think for us

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Speaker 1: yesterday to block how effectively as we did, it wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 1: I had some really nice runs mixed aroout, but it's

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Speaker 1: always gonna be a challenge when you're facing some of

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Speaker 1: these fronts. Your return game really seems to have turned

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Speaker 1: early in the season we kept hammering you with questions

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Speaker 1: about getting something there, um and you were really adamant

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Speaker 1: about staying the course and and that. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: some semblance of maybe validation that your patients with that

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Speaker 1: particular area of the game has paid off and now

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Speaker 1: you're you're getting the dividends from that. I mean, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for validation. I just think we're trying

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Speaker 1: to be consistent and trying to get good special teams play.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday, Donovan did a great job getting vertical, the

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Speaker 1: guys did a great job blocking uh and he ran

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Speaker 1: away from people and then did a really nice job.

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Speaker 1: But I think the big thing, Darryll, to your point

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Speaker 1: is we just got played consistently and in the special

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Speaker 1: being able to be consistent there. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: you saw yesterday, Kevin. When it comes to middle linebacker,

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Speaker 1: is it not just as simple as saying Dan Jones

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Speaker 1: has done that, he's the next guy up. Yeah? No, certainly,

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Speaker 1: Dion's played for us, played at a high level at

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Speaker 1: that position. We've had Jordan's and as it's been in there,

638
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: so we have options. We have guys that are going

639
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: to be moving around potentially, but we'll we'll make sure

640
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: that we got a good plan going into this one.

641
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Change the play at the line. On his one play, well,

642
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into specifics, but he did

643
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: exactly what he was supposed to do. Oh yes, speaking

644
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: of Jacoby and Deshaun, you know, complimented him yesterday for

645
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, the invaluable help he was to him on

646
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: the sidelines and all that. Uh and obviously you used

647
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: him for a snap because he's so well versed in

648
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: this offense. Do you envision you know, maybe even a

649
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: package of plays for him to be ready to give him,

650
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, something to do since he was so in

651
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: sync with everybody on his team. Yeah, we'll see as

652
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: as we go forward, Mary Kay, each game, what that

653
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: game calls for and what that game plan calls for.

654
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Jacoby was a huge, huge help yesterday. He was awesome

655
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: on the sideline like he always is. Was a help too,

656
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: I know to Sean that the rest of that offense,

657
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: that's part of his role. Uh, and and picking us

658
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: up on the sideline. Thought did a great job the interception.

659
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Did Shaun if you got a chance to watch it

660
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: on taper even talk to him, did he just think

661
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: the safety was going to kind of clear out on

662
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: the over I know he had a hand in his

663
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: face to just kind of what did you see that

664
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: on that I n T Yeah, you just I think

665
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: the biggest thing was we were late, and we were

666
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: late because of a couple of things up front. So

667
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: you got to learn from that one. If it's not clean,

668
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: we've gotta find an incompletion on that plant. All right,

669
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: there's coach Dafanski uh from the availability earlier today, lots

670
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: to get to you. We had we had it was

671
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: so great, Tiftonia. But a couple of other things from

672
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: the wind will have Jim the Voice joining us here

673
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: in about twenty minutes from now. Um, A couple of

674
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: the things in the wind in terms of the way

675
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: it went about it, um, and coming out of it

676
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: and going into Cincinnati. When you think about the way

677
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: that we operated, what was there anything you thought we'd

678
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: see more of? Because it's always gonna this whole thing

679
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be about Deshauan. That's what it was yesterday.

680
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be this week again Cincinnati,

681
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: certainly with the rest of the season's about you dug

682
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: the hole that we dug. We want to win amidst it.

683
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: You're still in the mix, um. But in terms of

684
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: us at our best with Watson, what will that look

685
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: like and what did it fail to do yesterday? Well,

686
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: ultimately it will look like the best of what we

687
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: saw with Jacobe Brisatt in terms of you know, that

688
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: play action game, the run game, A lot of that

689
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: will be similar. But then you're gonna see i think,

690
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: more dynamic downfield passing. You're gonna see more dynamic movement

691
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: in and around the pocket from Deshaun Watson. You've got

692
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: a glimpse of that. Yeah, the nice leven yards scramble, um,

693
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see what you should see. I mean,

694
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: let's not forget this is the first time in his

695
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: career that he has quarterbacked a game where his his

696
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: offense did not score touchdown first time in his NFL career.

697
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: It was the lowest quarterback rating of his NFL career.

698
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: So it's only getting better from here. This is like

699
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see higher accuracies. The guy is a

700
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: pass for his career and you know you'll see that

701
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: it just the rust was real. It certainly affected him

702
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully it will get better going forward.

703
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: One thing that was and it the astute I think

704
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: would pick it up. And my eye is not a stute.

705
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: It's meddling at best. Um. But there's an early play

706
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: in the first or second drive where it was a

707
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: gift to Chub and the backside, so it was a

708
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: gift to the right. Watson rolled in the backside, linebacker stuck. Yeah,

709
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: that's the that's the difference. Yep. That's it. That that's

710
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: a subtle thing. Yep. That's one last hat on Nick

711
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: Chubb because they're worried about four. Well, and it opened

712
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: up if you notice, it opened up more cutback lanes

713
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: because the backside wasn't crashing down, so you had that

714
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: room to put your foot in the ground. And cut back,

715
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: which se Shan did I'm sorry, Nick Chubb did on

716
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: a couple of our stretch type runs, so that changes

717
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: it from our read option looks. That changes it. And

718
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: then you saw the one where he kept it. They

719
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: called a penalty on Donovan People's jones, which was a

720
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Some of the penalty calls I thought were atrocious. I

721
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: think the pastor was atrocious. I thought the penalty and

722
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich was horrendous thing I was blocking him. I

723
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: thought it was one of the weirdest game I've ever seen.

724
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: It was bizarre, to say the very least. It was

725
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: an strange, crazy interception with that John Johnson had. Early

726
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: we talked about the fields one where they they acted

727
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: like it was in there, that the ball was incomplete.

728
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: It was very clearly never in it, So I don't

729
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: understand why we I don't know it was ever within

730
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: six ft of the ground. No, it was because it

731
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: went up and he caught it like his head height.

732
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: He's a six ft plus man. Yeah. Yeah, it was

733
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: so bizarre. I mean, we had that's the first time

734
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: in our franchises history that we scored three non offensive

735
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game. Yeah, that's crazy. It's also you

736
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: know one other thing too, Folks like do we know

737
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: that Donovan People's jones can return punts? Yes, we know.

738
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: Did we think he would take it to the house? No,

739
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: probably not, but we knew that he had that ability.

740
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: Like he's been a pure handed guy since he got here.

741
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: That's never gonna change. Also, and probably the reason, like

742
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say, well, why has

743
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: it been returning punts all year? Because he's are he's

744
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: proba one of our best receivers, and we're not real

745
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: deep there and we cannot risk and we are razor

746
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: thin now you cannot risk. At some point you're almost like, fine,

747
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: let's just catch it and go from there, because it's

748
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 1: not worth it for the risk for Donovan People's jones.

749
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Donovan People's jones right now is essential to what we

750
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: do in the past. Gaming essential. There's no margin for

751
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: air anymore on it. So the notion of why has

752
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: he been returning punts since week one? Because he's been

753
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: essential since week one and you can't risk that on

754
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: a consistent basis. Back to returning punts, He's alread other

755
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: people to step up. He's already set a career high

756
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: in in catches. A career high in receiving yards for

757
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: a season was set this game on his first catch.

758
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: And he's great in the run game. He had a

759
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: couple of penalties and this one that certainly hurt him,

760
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: but he's he's excellent in the run game. So the

761
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: reason and look back at at Michigan his freshman year,

762
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: he was the Big ten. He was like all Big

763
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: ten as a returner or all freshman team, whatever it was,

764
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: but had some accolades returners. So it's something that he's done.

765
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: And he I talked to him outside the buses after

766
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: the game and he told me that he got last

767
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: week when he kind of got that tweet, I think

768
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: a couple of twenty yard returns in that game. He

769
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: said he started to get some confidence, said, okay, maybe

770
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: I can actually do some things. And he's some you know,

771
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: returners are quick and shifty. He's more like a Cribs

772
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: in the sense that he's a bigger guy who can

773
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: run through you. And that's what he did. He broke

774
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles on that one, kept his balance,

775
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: which was incredible, and he was gone. He got great

776
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: downfield blocks from a J Green from dearness Johnson on

777
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: that one. Uh, that sprung him. But that was great

778
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: and it was great for prief to see special teams

779
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: come through. It's been a kind of an up a

780
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: mixed bag, but you're certainly starting to see some things

781
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: in the return games, some good punts and then you know,

782
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Kad York was steady, and when Kad York is good,

783
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: it looks so effortless. So it was good. That was

784
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: good to see. Yeah, it was good to see. It

785
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: was good to see the defense have the bounce back

786
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: that it did. That Texans operation is wildly incompetent at

787
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: the moment um they are. You know, we've we've lived this,

788
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: we know what it's like to do that there. You know,

789
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: you go one nine and one, it feels like they're

790
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna go what one fifteen and one seems like they're

791
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of destined to that. Not much better than that,

792
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: if any um, And what was the what was kind

793
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: of the environment? I saw some people tweeting videos of

794
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: or images of, like, uh, the parking lots and stuff

795
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: being largely empty? Did it was it? There's nobody there?

796
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: It was bizarre. So even at kick what would you

797
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: guess give a come on, even like there's still five

798
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: weeks to go. I could understand, like if it's the

799
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: last game of the year and you're right in the

800
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: middle of the holidays and people are just like you're awful,

801
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: and I'm not like this was unheard of. I took

802
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: a picture an hour before kick at the main parking

803
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: lot across that's the one I saw. Then that's the

804
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: one I'm referencing cars. Yeah, it was one of the

805
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: lightest attended games I've ever seen in my life. Even

806
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: when we had our struggles we were getting this stadium

807
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: was empty. The entire upper deck you could count in

808
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: the upper deck in the club level, and the bottom

809
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: was not totally full. I'm telling you it was. So

810
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: we went online and looked two hours before kick you

811
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: could get a ticket just to get in the door

812
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: for twenty bucks. You could sit in the lower bowl

813
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: in the first twenty rows around the entire stadium for

814
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: fifty bucks. Wow, what was the breakdown on fan I'm

815
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: gonna did we have a lot? He was pretty cool

816
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: at the end when DeShawn came off the field because

817
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: he had to do a couple of TV interviews and

818
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: post game and then he's walking up. I mean there

819
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: were there were a couple of hundred fans around the tunnel,

820
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: the Browns Tunnel. It felt like it was not quite

821
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: fifty fifty but close to it. And and that a

822
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of Texans fans. And there were some booze for

823
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: de Sean. I think you can hear it on the

824
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: on the honestly, that's what. So this is what makes

825
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: it a little surprising to me because on the television

826
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: that seemed louder. So I wondered if it was amplified.

827
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this. I actually I told Connor

828
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: that it was almost like they were piping in. That's

829
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: what it felt like. I mean it felt like because

830
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: I would never have known there were twenties some thousand there.

831
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: I would have thought it was full because the booze

832
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: were loud. Here's the thing that was odd is that

833
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: in the pre game when he took the field in

834
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: the pre game, there were not a lot of people there.

835
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: It sounded loud. I think that's the acoustics of that building.

836
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: And it was all cheers all there are a lot

837
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: of Texans Watson jerseys in the in the crowd, so

838
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: I I don't usually you can kind of feel or

839
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: hear like that it's artificial. But it was certainly louder

840
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: than what it appeared was happening out there, and it

841
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: was did not make sense with anything that happened pregame. Pregame,

842
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: he was not booed, So it felt like the television

843
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: for me, at least, the television product made it seem

844
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: like it was pretty close to full and it was.

845
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: And it's probably their usual game presentation where they're going

846
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to pipe in the crowd noise like maybe it was

847
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: already there, because that's what it would be for any

848
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: other game. It's one of the I think it's one

849
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Speaker 1: of the It's crazy because it's a it's one of

850
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: the bigger markets in the league. It's obviously a monster city.

851
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Um it's a football crazy town and state and all

852
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: of that. And it just feels like, aside from like

853
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: this window where they had Watson and Watt and Clowney

854
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and Matthew and Hopkins, there was just one window. Now

855
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: they had the U the Johnson window earlier, and they

856
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: drafted car right away number one overall. But it feels

857
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: like they are kind of always been like top were

858
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: they they once they won the division six times in

859
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: the teams. But I just don't six times six times

860
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: that's one Manning, but that's Watson. Yeah so and it's

861
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Jattat and those guys, and there's a quarterback shop shop.

862
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: But I mean, they never felt like I just don't

863
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: know if they've ever grown outside of like this little window,

864
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: Like they've never had like a transcendent player who crossed over,

865
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, like Carolina had Cam Newton. You know, they've

866
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: had some guys who have crossed over. To me, they

867
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: feel almost like Jacksonville, where it's like if you're not

868
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: from that town, nobody cares beyond it. It feels kind

869
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: of like that's where it is. It's a really interesting

870
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: one when you think they've been there almost twenty years,

871
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where you know, they

872
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't get the benefit that we did where we got

873
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: to keep the history, we got to keep the nostalgia.

874
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: They didn't, so they had to start from scratch. And

875
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: it just I can understand where there'd be a ton

876
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: of Watson fans. He's probably provided him the best experiences

877
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: they've had. Dome is so big, it's a monster. It's

878
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: like Detroit. Detroit is a smaller seeding capacity. Houston is like,

879
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: how many people from the state of Texas can we

880
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: fit inside that stadium? Everything is bigger in Texas, which

881
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: is fine except when you suck. Yeah, it's really noticeable

882
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: and it was. It's not a great stadium anyways. I

883
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: like it. Get a little ambient light in it. It's

884
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: not Minnesota. I mean Minnesota. I think from a logistic standpoint,

885
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: it's a pain for us. Yeah, I think probably what

886
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: everybody learned from Minnesota is natural lamar, natural light. The

887
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: better that gives you that feel that you're looking for.

888
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: So if for people who are going to do those

889
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,880
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Speaker 1: Well He's got another accolade as well. Now the president,

912
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: the newly minted president of the referee Land Clark Fan Club,

913
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: the one and only Jim Donovan. Thank you, thank you

914
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: very much. Our first meeting, incidentally, is this Friday. We're

915
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: gonna have a box launch Jim, I'm gonna get to

916
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: the ponies in a second, because that's tradition. I don't

917
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: want to break tradition. The call the Tony Fields interception

918
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. What are we looking at? Guys, Like

919
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: the ball never even got close to the field. It

920
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: was crazy. Well, first of all, bo Um, as Nathan

921
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: can attest to, Um, we were up in heaven yesterday.

922
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: We missed Hell and Purgator, but we were in Heaven yesterday.

923
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: By the how far we were away from the game. Uh,

924
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: and we should definitely see that that the moon was. Uh.

925
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: That guy was five feet from where the play happened,

926
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: and he clearly calls it complete passed until it's turned around.

927
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was one of many strange moment yesterday.

928
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: Is it the highest presscott box in the league. It's

929
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: got to be because we have to Yeah, we were

930
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: on the eighth floor. Uh. And I have to tell

931
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: you now, a couple of weeks ago when the snow

932
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: game for Buffalo, when we were in Detroit, we were

933
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: up pretty high. But it was terrific. I mean it

934
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: really was a great sideline. I mean I thought it

935
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: was perfect. Uh, this was really high. I know, they

936
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: do things big in Texas, and and they ain't kidding

937
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: outside when they built that place. No, it was. And

938
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: the other thing that was so hard about it was

939
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: it was impossible to see the numbers on the Texans

940
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: uniforms from how far away we were, because it was

941
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: a dark with a dark red number. And I hate

942
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: that I couldn't see at all from from our vantage point.

943
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, tough day for the officials. Obviously, land Clark

944
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: don't need to see him anytime soon. But Jim, we've

945
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: talked about it. One of the strangest games. Obviously you

946
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: went there to get a win. You did that, but

947
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: certainly not in the way in which anybody thought a

948
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: bizarre game from start to finish for the Browns. What

949
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: did you think now that you've had a data kind

950
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: of process that, what do you think? Well, I was

951
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: just listening to it as a matter of fact, Uh,

952
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right. You know, a lot long time ago.

953
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the squat story. My first year of

954
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: being able to do football games on NBC at the

955
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Before the start of the preseason,

956
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: NBC would gather all the announcers in New York and

957
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: they'd have like a boot camp, like a training camp.

958
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: And I remember just sitting beside dick Enberg one day

959
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: at lunch in between sessions, and he said to me,

960
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: let me give you a piece of advice. Go into

961
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: every game and you can always expect that something really

962
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: out of the norm can happen. And sometimes you know

963
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: it will seem that NFL games follow a pattern, but

964
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: you always have to be ready for something just completely

965
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: bizarre to happen. And I say to myself, yesterday, God

966
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: blessed Tokenburgh. He's right, everything didn't happen, and it happened

967
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: in one afternoon. Yeah, Jim, I, I think we've kind

968
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: of led the show with this. It can be first

969
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: of all, it's so great to learn amidst winning, right,

970
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: that makes everything a lot better, and we certainly take

971
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: all of them. And it can also be true that

972
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: what you were hoping to see out of de Shaun,

973
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: however naive that may have been after seven hundred games

974
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: without playing a real game, Uh, that this fell a

975
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: little bit short of that. What did you see from him?

976
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Just in terms of the way you want our business,

977
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: nerv nous, that type of stuff. Yeah, you know what

978
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: I thought, I think, boh, the thing that I saw.

979
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: And as I kind of sat back this morning and

980
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: kind of reflected back on it, like what was going on? Um,

981
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: I think wanted to play fast because that's the way

982
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: he plays. UM. But I also found that he seemed

983
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: very hesitant about what he wanted to do when he

984
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: was in the pocket. Um. You know, it just seemed

985
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: as though he was he was in between gears like

986
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: do I run it? Uh? Do I roll out here?

987
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: Do I show like I'm gonna run? Which he did,

988
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm gonna throw the pass? And a couple

989
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: of times it looked like even Brown's players that were

990
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: on that sideline hugging that particular edge sideline were a

991
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: little bit shocked and surprised. They didn't know what he

992
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: was gonna do. So I just think and as the

993
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: afternoon went along, Uh, he just seemed to be uh

994
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: not happy feet in the pocket, but he had he

995
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: had like red hot feet in the pocket, like his

996
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: feet were on walking on coals, because he was just

997
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: all over the place. And I'm wondering if that was

998
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: a problem that led to some of the throws mechanically,

999
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, falling down, going low and things like that

1000
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: because he was just coming apart a little bit. So

1001
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: he's got to find his gear, and I'm sure he will, um.

1002
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: But I thought he made the best statement post game

1003
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: that was so applicable to what happened yesterday when he said,

1004
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: I felt everyone of those seven hundred days that I

1005
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: have not played in a regular season game, each and

1006
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: every one of them. And I definitely could see it,

1007
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: and I'm sure everybody else could. We all saw it too,

1008
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things. But when I were

1009
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: talking earlier, and we we talked about during the broadcast,

1010
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: even briefly, something as simple as how you take your steps,

1011
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: how you do your drop backs, you know, and one

1012
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: thing in practice, when you know you're not gonna hit

1013
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: get hit, you can kind of do it at a

1014
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: leisurely pace and it will probably be consistent. But you

1015
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: noted on one he kind of sprinted to the top

1016
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: of his drop back about eight yards behind the line

1017
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It felt like, and you know, that wasn't consistent.

1018
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: So that affects your timing, that affects your rhythm, all

1019
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: of those things, and so I think it's part of

1020
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: it's feeling all of that out and didn't. Didn't you

1021
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: think the dropbacks weren't interesting When you just isolate those,

1022
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: those were even interesting to watch and not what you've

1023
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: ever really seen from Deshaun Watson. Yeah, I agree, and

1024
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, I think that we've seen and certainly last

1025
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: week in the build up to the game, you would

1026
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: go back and you would, you know, see video of

1027
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: his hey days and his glory days, and there were

1028
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: glory days in Houston, and you would watch him perform

1029
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: and then you just fast forward it in your in

1030
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: your mind and your imagination. Okay, that's what's That's what

1031
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like this Sunday. Um, And it wasn't

1032
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: and it fell short of that. But you know, logically,

1033
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: so I think that you know, Bo, you you hit

1034
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: it right on the right on the nose when you

1035
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: said we were probably all very naive to think that

1036
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: after seven hundred days it was just gonna be pick up,

1037
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: ready set, I'm ready to go, and it's gonna be

1038
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: just like it was when I was having a big

1039
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: year my last year in Houston. It's just not feasible

1040
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen. And it didn't happen, and it's

1041
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: gonna take some time, and I would predict he will

1042
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: be better this week in Cincinnati, uh than he was yesterday,

1043
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: And of course he'll need to be. Yeah, it will

1044
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: be if you watch them yesterday afternoon as they took

1045
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: care of Kansas City. Yeah, Jim. That's the thing that

1046
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: is interesting too, is Um and Nathan. I discussed this

1047
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. He's gonna have to be so

1048
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: much better in Cincinnati. He knows that. Everybody knows it. Um.

1049
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: It was almost to us it almost felt like maybe

1050
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: the second half could have been kind of viewed as

1051
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: almost as an exhibition game. We who were run heavy

1052
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: in the second half. Would you have liked to see

1053
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: Kevin throw it a little bit more? I use this

1054
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: thing with Ohio State when they when they have it

1055
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: humming like offensively, bing bong bong like right down the field.

1056
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: I just felt like you wanted one of those drives

1057
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: from Watson so you can be like, Okay, this is

1058
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: what we are now, now let's go play Cincinnati. Absolutely

1059
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: that that's what you were looking for. I thought we

1060
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: had it just before he threw the interception, and then

1061
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: he threw the interception in the end, so and I

1062
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, I think that would have really

1063
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: kind of smoothed everything up. There's no doubt about that.

1064
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: Um I you know, I just think that as the

1065
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: day went along. But one thing I worried about, guys,

1066
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Uh and Nathan, you and I were talking about it

1067
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: during a commercial break, But one that got to be

1068
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: a six point lead, you know, a one score game

1069
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: and and less than a touchdown with an extra point

1070
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: tack done. I was concerned that the Texans might get

1071
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: a little hot, Uh and go down and score. And

1072
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: if we fell behind in the game, I was concerned

1073
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: that he was going to be able to drive them

1074
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: down the field, even to get them into field goal range,

1075
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: never mind a touchdown, to try and win the game.

1076
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he had the capacity to do

1077
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: that yesterday, because as the game went along, we were

1078
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: so one dimensional because of the struggles he was having

1079
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: that we were all run and and I didn't know

1080
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: if we could do that. So the fact that we

1081
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: were able to take care of business defensively with turnovers obviously,

1082
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: special teams recovering a fumble and that glorious punt return

1083
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: by Donovan People's chums, then everything was okay. Once they

1084
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: expanded the lead. Then you knew you were gonna get

1085
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: out of there with what you went down there to do,

1086
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: which was to win the game. Um, but it is

1087
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna be very are different on Sunday in Cincinnati. Yeah,

1088
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have the opportunity to to have those lulls.

1089
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: If we play offensive football like that, you know we

1090
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: will be beaten. And the Bengals are very good now.

1091
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: For Watson, first time in his career and he's been

1092
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the team that didn't score an offensive touchdown,

1093
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: lowest quarterback rating of his career. So, as we said,

1094
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: there's only one way to go, which is up for him.

1095
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: But let's talk about that defense. And this is not

1096
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 1: a good offense of the Houston Texans. They were without

1097
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. They were not good. But our defense, Yes,

1098
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: a fortuitous bounce you would say, on the John Johnson interception,

1099
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: but other than that, they did a great job. Jim,

1100
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: what stood out to you about the performance defensively in

1101
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: this one, Well, you know, Nathan, the last two weeks.

1102
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: I'll even include the Tampa Bay game the week before. Um,

1103
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: it might get not a little bit earlier, which they

1104
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: did in the first series in Tampa Bay and they

1105
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: kip here Scott going a little bit yesterday, you know,

1106
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: on his first carry, on his first couple of carry.

1107
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: But then we're shutting it off. We're shutting it down.

1108
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: And I really think we call I get up very

1109
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: very well. I thought so. I think if you say

1110
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: to yourself, all right, it's mandatory that you stopped the run,

1111
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: you have to do that. That's the first commandment to

1112
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: winning defensively in the NFL. I think we're starting to

1113
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: do that much better than obviously the Miami game. You

1114
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: know what happened down there, and you know what happened

1115
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: in the other games that really had us worried about

1116
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: the Browns defense. We're playing the runs so much better.

1117
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: And whereas we did not get sacks yesterday, we did

1118
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: get great pressure that forced errand throws. So there's a

1119
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: different world. There's a different way to win yesterday, and

1120
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: there there are also different ways to play really good defense.

1121
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: It's not always about the sacks. It's pressure at what

1122
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: pressure leads to, and I think it led to high

1123
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: errand throws, you know, dick balls, getting your hands up.

1124
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: All the good things really started to come into play.

1125
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: And I and I really do believe that probably even

1126
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: since the Baltimore game in Baltimore, overall, they've played better defense.

1127
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of like last year when they really started

1128
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: to get at the end of the year. Plus the

1129
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: other thing was there were more people playing yesterday. I mean,

1130
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, Winovich played yesterday. You know, Perry On Winfrey's

1131
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: playing more. It's Honey Fields is playing more and deservedly so.

1132
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: And you know, and the kid Emerson, I mean, he's

1133
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: been playing great since he walked on the field in July. So,

1134
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there are good signs here defensively

1135
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: that that's how I think they played well. They'll need

1136
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: all of that. Uh this Sunday down in Cincinnati, that

1137
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: team is as good as inning. The league beat Kansas

1138
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: City yesterday. Burrow Watson, I mean I always kind of

1139
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: felt like in the back of my head that Burrow

1140
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: being this good this quick kind of forced this organization

1141
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: to say, hey, this ain't gonna be it with Baker

1142
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: Mayfield incidentally was cut today by Carolina Um and then

1143
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: and you had to get better in a hurry they

1144
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: did with Watson, and now you get your first look

1145
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: at what should be a five to ten year run

1146
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: of these two quarterbacks going head to head. Yeah, you

1147
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: know the other thing bow is that Uh And I

1148
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: know it was baby steps yesterday for Deshaun Watson, Okay,

1149
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: but there still is that fire in that guy that

1150
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: has made him a great player at every level, you know,

1151
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: high school, college and in the NFL. And you just

1152
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: say to yourself, Um, that he's going up he realizes

1153
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: who he's going up against next week. He touched on

1154
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: that yesterday during his postgame press conference. Um, And you

1155
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: know I somehow say to myself, a guy like that,

1156
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: we'll say to himself, Hey, listen, I'm gonna drive myself

1157
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: athletically and within Kevin Stefanski's offense to make sure that

1158
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm better. And a guy that has fire like that

1159
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: that goes along with the talent like that, you know,

1160
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sell him short that he is gonna

1161
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: play better and that he'll be charged up to play

1162
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: against that team. And definitely, even though you're not individually

1163
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: going up against Joe Burrow in any ways, you are

1164
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: going up against Joe Burrow because it's gonna be a

1165
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: natural comparison. I would feel that he would really be

1166
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: ready to play you know, going to that game and

1167
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: tap into every athletic gene he has, and that's quite

1168
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: a pool of jeans. I think to really come up

1169
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: with a performance, it will be and I think there's

1170
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that David and Joku will be able to

1171
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: be back for the Browns in this game against the Bengals,

1172
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: which would be huge because Jim we talked about this yesterday.

1173
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: David Bell gets hurt, Schwartz fumbles and it seemed like

1174
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: he was benched at that point. Now he ultimately gets

1175
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: hurt and as in the concussion protocol, the metric Felton,

1176
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: because Mike Woods was an active was on the field

1177
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: a ton yesterday and did not really I don't think

1178
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: he recorded a stat There was one pass attempted in

1179
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: his direction, which was one of the ones Watson threw

1180
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: down into the ground. But we need to get somebody

1181
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: else involved in the game beyond just Cooper Donovan People's

1182
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: Jones via the air. So getting David and Joku back,

1183
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: I think in many ways he is your you know,

1184
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: number two, number three receiver. Along with Donovan People's Jones,

1185
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: that will be that'll be a massive return, I think yeah.

1186
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: And I think even going into the whole thing. Uh.

1187
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: We said, you know who will benefit from a Deshaun

1188
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Watson quarterback team? Uh? Really probably at the top of

1189
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: the list would be a guy like David at Joke

1190
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: Um and I yeah, I define. I agree with you, Nathan.

1191
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: You definitely have to You're gonna need more targets, You're

1192
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: gonna need more people, and you have to be able

1193
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: to get them involved in the game because it opens

1194
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: up everything. I mean, one thing leads to another. It's like,

1195
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, one hand leads to the other hand. Working

1196
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: the running game can help the passion game, but the

1197
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: passion game can help the running game too. Yesterday, the

1198
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: main thing is you just cannot be as one dimensional

1199
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: in the in the game like they became yesterday. And

1200
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: yet they were able to walk out of there with

1201
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: a win. And that's what mattered. And it was because defense,

1202
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: special teams, Tony Field, Jordan Kanasha, guys like that making

1203
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: plays for this team. You know, one of the things

1204
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: we've talked about all year was special teams had kind

1205
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: of let us down. And it feels like the last

1206
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, you know, last week, DPJ gets some

1207
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: nicer turns forward has a nice returnable. Corks pins them

1208
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: back deep with a punt that ended up being critical

1209
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the fourth quarter, allowing us get

1210
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: the ball back. And then yesterday there was the one

1211
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: bad coverage on the punt after the safety or the

1212
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: kick quote unquote kickoff after this safety where King got

1213
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 1: a fifty yard return. But other than that, it felt

1214
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: like our returns were great. DPJ obviously with the huge one,

1215
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: but Cork has punted very well four times inside the

1216
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: twenty and pin them back deep which led to a touchdown.

1217
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: And he also had kave York and some of the

1218
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: kickoffs were a little wonky. But when his field goals

1219
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: are good, Jim, it looks so easy. And I think

1220
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna need special teams in defense. We're gonna need

1221
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: all three phases if we want to go five and oh,

1222
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: which I think we're gonna have to do here to

1223
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs. Yeah, you're right, and uh, it's

1224
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: good to get him going. And it's good to also

1225
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: not see him having to live at fifty eight sixty. Yes,

1226
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, let's get him. Let's get him in a

1227
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, it's great to watch him. It's hey,

1228
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: it's great in pregame to go, oh, look at him.

1229
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but really, let's let's get him

1230
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: into you know, like thirty five and forty and forty

1231
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: three like he was yesterday, because I think he really

1232
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: will become you know, automatic, and I you know, I

1233
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, I commend them for really being a thousand

1234
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: percent beyond hind shuff even you know, a term of

1235
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: rookie year that's had a couple of hiccups. Uh, And

1236
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's learning, and I think

1237
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: he's definitely learning and probably still gonna have to educate

1238
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: himself on how to kick in his own stadium because

1239
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: it's a very very different turf and very different weather

1240
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: down there and and atmosphere down there. But yeah, you're right,

1241
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: I think everything kind of fit, uh, Special teams wise

1242
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: coming around, And it's good because really, for many many

1243
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: chunks of this season, when they had to punt or

1244
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: they had to you know it's cover a kick or

1245
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: a cover a punch, you really held your breath a

1246
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: lot because there were so many things that were stacking up.

1247
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: They were negative. Now we're turning it around the other way.

1248
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: We're making some positive things on special teams and then

1249
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: you can see how it all fits into the equations

1250
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: of the three phases of the game. Well, we'll get

1251
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: you out of here on this one, sir. The ponies

1252
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: we got blankets on them. Do we have the hay

1253
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: in the barn? Do we have we have plenty of oats.

1254
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: We stocked up all very good questions. It's been applicable

1255
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: to what went on today. They were out with blankets.

1256
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Then I brought them in and took the blankets off

1257
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: because you know, we're kind of in the forties and

1258
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: they love that. They like the blankets when it's windy. Uh,

1259
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: they like to shut them when it's when it's sunny

1260
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: and in the forties. So there without blankets. Hey, loft

1261
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: is stacked, barn is decorated, awaiting the Three Kings. Mary Josephton,

1262
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: I believe the Christ Child's gonna be here on December.

1263
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's go, barnad and ready to go.

1264
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: God bless you, God bless the ponies. Jim great, thank

1265
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: you for your time today, sir, So long from my

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Speaker 1: at he's sweaty five. Now where's he gonna go? Cut's

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Speaker 1: thirty five, forty forty five fifty, He's down the sideline

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Speaker 1: thirty five thirty twenty deft ten. Fuck, he's gone touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Tonoman People's joves head on one hit. But Brown's take

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Speaker 1: some game balls. Let's start on the offensive side. Doctor Z,

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Speaker 1: who do you got? Well, I'm gonna give it to

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Speaker 1: Donovan People's Jones, but not for anything he did on offense,

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01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: but for his seventy six yard punt return that changed

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Speaker 1: things around for the Cleveland Browns. I thought that was incredible,

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: a great play for him, and he's just blossomed so

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: much in his third season. What one of the best

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Speaker 1: draft picks, honestly of this regime you think about as

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Speaker 1: a sixth rounder. The fact that he is a legit,

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Speaker 1: starting caliber NFL wide receiver, a good number two for

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Speaker 1: this team, does everything the right way and and I

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Speaker 1: was thrilled for him personally. Yeah, I'll tell you, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it to joelb Atonio for just being Jeolbertonio

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Speaker 1: and being a legend all the time. Because there wasn't

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Speaker 1: a whole lot that caught my eye. Nick was really solid.

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Speaker 1: I will say the thing that I was really pleased

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Speaker 1: with and made me happy was the way Kareem ran

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: it because I hadn't seen that for it felt like

1303
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: about a month and a half um and he was

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Speaker 1: a one stop footing, ground, violent uphill runner, which it

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01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: was good to see again because you're gonna to your

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01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: point earlier, you're gonna need all of that, especially we

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01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: continue to be this batter receiver. You need all of

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: that to try to beat Cincinnati on Sunday. So I

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: was happy to see that. I like that. Um. One

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Speaker 1: player on defense, Tony Fields was the guy. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go, Tony Fields. I'll go, Uh, I'll go Greg Newsome.

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Speaker 1: I thought Greg was all over the field yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: thought that he played very well. Miles is obviously every week,

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01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: you know, leads a team in pressures. Winovich I thought

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: played very well in his snaps. Um, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go Tony Fields. I'm gonna go. You know, actually, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna change my mind. Greg was great. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to see any Taki Taki last time we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the last time we're gonna get to talk about him

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Speaker 1: this season as a player for the Cleveland Browns. Uh

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Speaker 1: lad the team and tackles in this game. He is

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01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: a heart and soul type of guy and and I

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Speaker 1: love him, and I really hope that he is provided

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Speaker 1: a contract to stay here with the Cleveland Browns for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Denzel I thought I had his best

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01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:56,479
Speaker 1: game in a long time as well. Um, but I'll

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Speaker 1: give it to yeah, it's started to come a little

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: bit when of its now getting were active in there.

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01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: Remember that's what he was signed to. Emerson Newsome, Denzel

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: cooking a little bit, John Johnson right place, right time,

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01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: great president of the feed in That was good to see. Um,

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01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: so you're starting to see that defense come along the

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: fields is probably the right answer with you know, just

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: a superhuman performance in the one out of his dad

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: as well. Um one wild card you get a wild

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: card game ball for this one. I'll go prief. It's

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01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: been a tough year for him and I'll go group. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: both the same same, same, same up. You know, it's

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: been tough. Those those guys are pros. They're really good

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Speaker 1: at their jobs. Not all everything has worked the way

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: that they wanted all season long. Um, but in in

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Speaker 1: this one it did so good job for both of

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Speaker 1: those guys. Uh. The college football over the weekend was

1344
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Speaker 1: was pretty bonkers by Friday. You know, Ohio State was

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Speaker 1: going to be in by the time USC lost on

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Speaker 1: Friday night, which was crazy. Um, I thought USC would

1347
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: beat Utah if they got bludgeoned. Mrs Girl. How about

1348
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Speaker 1: Saban going on Fox during the Big Ten Championship game

1349
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Speaker 1: and lobbying to get his team in. First of all,

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Speaker 1: isn't that some violation of the SEC's deal with CBS Saban? No,

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: Saban absolutely usurps anything that the SEC does. He answers

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01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: to no no man or, nor nor ented, no entity. Um,

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: that was a very funny thing that I saw from

1354
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: a guy that I like reading in college football, Brandon

1355
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: Marcella's his name, He works seven Sports, and he tweeted

1356
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: out there's a good chance that if you host a

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Speaker 1: college football podcast on Saturday night, Nick Saban will come

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Speaker 1: on it like he was that eager to try to

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Speaker 1: spread propaganda to get his team in. Um. They had

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Speaker 1: two losses, and that's just two more. You just can't

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Speaker 1: have to. Everybody else had one, and so all the

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Speaker 1: teams with one loss got in. In the old days

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Speaker 1: with the BCS, it would have been the right way,

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Speaker 1: which would have been Georgia and Michigan. They're both undefeated

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Speaker 1: and you would have got to see those two play. UM.

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Speaker 1: Instead the two one lost teams get in the only

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Speaker 1: thing that I got wrong is I really thought that

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Speaker 1: they would reward Georgia by giving them TCU and have

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Speaker 1: Ohiot State and Mission can play out in the fiestabole.

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Speaker 1: Um I thought that the rewarding of the number one

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Speaker 1: team is what they would have done, and what they

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Speaker 1: did is they went most deserving. TCU is a more

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Speaker 1: deserving number three. They beat everybody that they was on

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Speaker 1: their schedule, um including Kansas State, who they lost to

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01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: in kind of a little bit of a weird way

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Speaker 1: in the conference championship game. UM So, I thought that

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Speaker 1: they would have awarded Georgia more than more than were

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Speaker 1: an easier path and and so that's the best most

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Speaker 1: deserving conversation. TCU is the most deserving number three. They're

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Speaker 1: more deserving than Ohio State is the three. But everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: If you were to ask Georgia who's the one team

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Speaker 1: that you would be most leary about, it would be

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Speaker 1: o Highest State because they recruit the same type of players.

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Speaker 1: High State's got a pro quarterback and pro receivers and

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: they haven't had to deal with a lot of that

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01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: at Georgia this year. Georgia, on the other side, from

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Speaker 1: the Buckeye side of this, they're basically Michigan on steroids.

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Speaker 1: They're just bigger, stronger, faster, better Michigan. So it's a

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Speaker 1: tough tough matchup for a high state. Yeah, who's struggled

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Speaker 1: with Michigan. Obviously, I wonder if they factor in the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's conclusive that TC scored. Well, there was

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: that too, and that was like, yeah, they lost. That

1393
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: was so stupefying that they didn't get that right. And

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: then what was insane. It's insane. And the other thing

1395
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: that was just as insane was that Sunny Dike's decided

1396
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: to hand it off five years behind the line of scrimmage,

1397
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: when no one had tackled that quarterback. Just sneak it,

1398
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Speaker 1: you were. It wasn't first and goal from the one.

1399
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Speaker 1: It was first and goal from about eighteen inches from

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Pete Famil, Pete Jackson Smith and jig But tells

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Speaker 1: ESPN he is declaring for the NFL Draft will not

1402
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: compete in the CFP. I was unable to come back

1403
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: on multiple occasions during the season. Doctors determined I would

1404
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: be unable to participate in the playoffs. Ryan Day, I

1405
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: want to thank Jackson for all he's done for our

1406
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: Ohio state program. He has had such a major impact

1407
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: here in Columbus on and off the field. In a

1408
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: relatively relatively short period of time. It's really just one

1409
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: season he played to last year, he broke the single

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Speaker 1: season receiving record and broke the Rose Bowl all time

1411
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: reception yardage record. He was the number one quarterback receiver

1412
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Speaker 1: in the draft if not for the injury. The difference though,

1413
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: compared to like him and even Nick Bosa who did

1414
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: a similar thing, there isn't that much film on him

1415
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: and his explosiveness, Like there was a Jamaar Chase who

1416
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: sat out and still went really high, or Micah Parsons

1417
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: who went really high. Those are the last two guys,

1418
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: like it's coming out party. Was the Rose Bowl that well,

1419
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: he was he was in a slot, so they had

1420
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: they put Wilson and they put Garrett Wilson Alive on

1421
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: the edges and they put in Jig in the slot.

1422
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: And so he just feasted because all the attention was

1423
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: out there. So I want to say he had yards

1424
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: before the Rose Bowl and then he had a three

1425
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: hundred yard Rose Bowl game and then that put him

1426
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: over lose to anybody. I lost to Michigan. They got bullied,

1427
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: but it was the Rose Bowl was the first game

1428
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: that because Wilson and Alive didn't play in that game. No,

1429
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: that was when he was the guy. And Harrison caught

1430
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in that game game as a true freshman. Yeah,

1431
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: so that was definitely his oh boy, And then they

1432
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: rushed him back. He should not have played in the

1433
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 1: Iowa game. Then they denied that he was hurt in

1434
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: the Iowa game, which was nonsense. You could tell that

1435
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: it was done. Um. And my guess is he just

1436
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: doesn't have trust to want to risk it again. So

1437
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: you think he can't play. I think he could play,

1438
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: but I think he doesn't want to risk what happened

1439
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: him in the Iowa game, where he reaggravated an injury

1440
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: far worse than it was originally injured. That's what happened.

1441
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: He played two damn soon. Yeah, he's hurt in the

1442
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game. He shouldn't have played again until Penn

1443
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: State at the end of October at the earliest, and

1444
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: instead he came back early. And that was of his

1445
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: choosing against Iowa. And I mean to have a chance

1446
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: for a national championships if they were just going to

1447
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: a regular bowl game. Forget like the Alabama guys should

1448
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: not be playing in those bowl games, none of them.

1449
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: College football is on its head. There's seven kids enter

1450
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 1: the trans reportatal day, including the starting quarterback at Clemson,

1451
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: the starting guard at Alabama. Like all of this is

1452
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: happening today. They're basically saying, what can you pay me?

1453
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: Three year starting quarterback at NC State? Like all these

1454
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: guys are in the portal, what can you pay me

1455
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: to incentivize you to come? That happened today? I mean,

1456
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: it's okay, you think's gonna happen in Colorado? What do

1457
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: you think of his speech? Alright, so two things I've

1458
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: never seen in my so. First of all, that was

1459
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: that was my go to school, and so I was

1460
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna go to college. I didn't. I stayed. Would have

1461
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: loved it. I stayed in Montana for a girl. It

1462
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: lasted a month. That's a story for another day. I

1463
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: love to see you my dream school. It's gorgeous, It's

1464
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: all those things. If you can win a pactwelve championship

1465
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: at Utah, you can damn sure win one at Colorado.

1466
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: So it's it's more attractive than Utah is for a

1467
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. It is also way out of what

1468
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: I thought Dean Sanders comfort zone would be. Um, this

1469
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: is a guy who's from fort Myers, who played at

1470
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: Florida State. His most he played the one Supreme year

1471
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 1: with the forty Niners but most of it, and with

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens at the end and Washington as well. But

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Speaker 1: mostly he is a Southern guy. He's a cowboy, a falcon.

1474
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: After his playing career, lives in Dallas, like he identifies

1475
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: with the culture. There's a different culture in the South

1476
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: than there is out west. Um, and so that's gonna

1477
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: be a major adjustment from that standpoint for him. I'm

1478
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: surprised that he went there. UM leads me to believe

1479
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: there weren't maybe better opportunities, like, for example, like to me,

1480
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: now that Louisville's open, that would have made more sense

1481
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: for him to go to Louisville than Colorado. Um. But

1482
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: two other things happened yesterday that I've never seen before.

1483
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: So the athletic director at Colorado is interviewed. Someone asked him,

1484
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 1: do you how did you get the money for this?

1485
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: Don't I don't, but I'm confident that we will come again.

1486
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And then the other thing that

1487
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: was happening, people didn't realize it right away. Dean gives

1488
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: a seven minute speech to the current Colorado players. It's

1489
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: seven minutes long, and in the beginning it's really aspirational

1490
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is what we're gonna do. Here's

1491
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: how we're gonna handle this. We're gonna do this, We're

1492
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna get better accountability. And then at the end he says,

1493
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm coming and I'm bringing my luggage and it's Louis

1494
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: in other words, I'm bringing my players with me the

1495
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: Colorado And then he tells the kids who are at

1496
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: Colorado and there's there's people who have not told spoken

1497
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: truth to you. You've let your parents down, this alumni bound,

1498
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: you've let the student body down. Get in the portal

1499
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: because I got guys coming in here, says it to him.

1500
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: Then after that gets him to chant. He goes, you

1501
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: know why they're coming, because they're smart, say it. They

1502
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: go smart, tough, and he goes tough. He gets him

1503
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: to chant their replacements characteristics while telling them hit the

1504
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 1: bricks Jack, Yeah, that happened. It was insane, insane that

1505
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: all happened yesterday. Now, from what I've talked to several people,

1506
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my luggage and the press goes, that's your quarterback.

1507
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: His kid who's coming. That's your quarterback, Travis Hunter, who

1508
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: is at number on recruit corner. He's coming, but he

1509
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: goes at your quarter He's you have to earn it.

1510
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm sure, but he's a good player. Um,

1511
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: it's nuts, It's absolute nuts. We're gonna work at this level, yes,

1512
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: will because of transfer portal in an aisle. He's gonna

1513
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: have built in deals with bar Stool. The only thing

1514
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: that is crazy is Colorado is a Nike school, so

1515
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: like and he's an under armour guy. So is he

1516
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: going to be able to finagle that? Because he was

1517
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: able to finagle under armour contracts for his players at

1518
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: Jackson State, I don't know if he'll be able to

1519
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: do that at Colorado because unless I can get out

1520
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: of that Nike deal. I mean, wouldnt Nike be more

1521
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: than happy to have Dion Sanders. Well, they had a

1522
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 1: pre existing I mean, he was Nike. He was a

1523
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: nice guy. But he's been with Underarmer for a while now,

1524
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: so I don't know how that. I'm sure Nike would

1525
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: love to have him, but I don't know if he

1526
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: wants to be back in business with them under armour.

1527
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: But he might have a contract. I mean, it's just

1528
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: messier than then. You might think, uh, it's crazy. One

1529
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: thought from you. It's on a CC network. I don't

1530
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: even know where you can get the a CEC network

1531
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: or how you can get it to Night at seven.

1532
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: The legend of Charlie Ward. Did you cover him? No?

1533
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Not that old Gibby and Bob Sarah, Yeah, probably no.

1534
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: Winky I missed the end of Winky. I got there

1535
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: right after Wanky left. He Um, Charlie Ward was probably um.

1536
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: He's largely forgotten because he was basically an NBA role

1537
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: player who made a lot of money to be a

1538
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: role player in the NBA on really good nick Yeah,

1539
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: in the finals, like he was a bench guy you

1540
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: would start sometimes in some threes. Really solid player. He was.

1541
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Probably he's probably the best example of if the NFL

1542
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: thought then the way they thought now, he would have

1543
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: probably been a star in the league because he possessed

1544
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: all the traits. It's just they ran a fast break

1545
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: offense with Mark Rick, the former Georgia coach was the

1546
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: office coordinator in Brad Scott at South Carolina. Everything was

1547
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: out of the gun, everything was four wide, everything was fast.

1548
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: It call it at the line go go, go, go go,

1549
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: and in that in those years the NFL didn't want

1550
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: and also at that point and it's just the facts

1551
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: of the end, maybe six three was he Yeah, he's

1552
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: six to six three. Because it's funny I think of

1553
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: him as a football player as a basketball pa he's

1554
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: so tiny on a basketball court. No, he's he's ultra

1555
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: athletic and strong and all that. He Look, they weren't

1556
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: drafting black quarterbacks that either three, Like you didn't that

1557
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: was it? There weren't any Andre Ware Yeah, it kind

1558
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: of one. But he was a thrower like a correct

1559
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: and Charlie was to like, if you go watch his

1560
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: games against like they played Notre Dame in a number

1561
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: one versus number two games that nere Dame actually one.

1562
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: He was sensational. Yeah, so it's funny. I just kind

1563
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: of made that little dumb comment about because I think

1564
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: of a small basketball player. Did you get any either

1565
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: of you see the picture of Luca don Chet's next

1566
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: to Micah Parsons. No? No, so you think I think

1567
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: of Micah Parsons as like a big beast, yeah, yeah,

1568
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: and Luca is like a taller, but NBA dwarfs him. Yeah,

1569
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: dwarfs him. Yeah, because every bit is broad seventy or whatever.

1570
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: Luca got thick. Yeah, it's it blew my mind. Yeah,

1571
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll see if I can find it. That's pretty wild. Yeah,

1572
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: wild weekend. The deon stuff in Colorado's speech was insane

1573
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: chant the characteristics of the people who are going to

1574
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: replace you, addressing I wonder, I just wonder how much

1575
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: can he pull from that West coast? Can he can

1576
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: he go into USC's back now And I don't think so.

1577
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be He is going to use

1578
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: portal and n I L. Yeah, Like I just think

1579
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: of Michael Parsons like huge, huge, Yeah, he's gonna use

1580
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: portal in n I L. He's gonna try to reach

1581
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: kids that way, and he was great at Jackson State.

1582
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: I better come up with they're gonna have to and

1583
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: that's always been their problems. They don't. They don't billionaire

1584
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Speaker 1: the NFL Today, our former corver quarterback, the number one

1605
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: overall pick, Baker Mayfield, released by the Carolina Panthers today.

1606
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: Um uh. Coach White announcing that Coach Wilks rather announcing

1607
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: that this afternoon in Carolina that that was going to

1608
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: be the case. Still, he'll go through waivers and we'll

1609
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: see where that goes. Um. Pretty wild turn of events

1610
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: in the last year, two years for for Baker Mayfield. Yeah,

1611
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: no doubt. Um shocking in fact that they decided p J.

1612
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: Walker was their starter. Sam Donald's their backup. And I

1613
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: think that he and you being reported that he asked

1614
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: for his release in the table. You're a third string quarterback,

1615
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna be an active they you're not in their

1616
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: future plans, So if you can get a chance to

1617
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: get into somebody else's But you wonder if you know,

1618
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: we've seen the last of him as they starting quarterback.

1619
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: Now the question will be around every around the league

1620
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: right now due to what happened to Jimmy Garoppolo, which

1621
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: is the next bullet point on this suffered a broken

1622
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: foot in the first quarter to require season ending surgery.

1623
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: According to head coach Kyle Shannon, would the forty Niners

1624
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: be interested? And now it's going to depend on a

1625
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: couple of things. Number One, do what did they think

1626
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: of him coming out? What was the evaluation of Lynch

1627
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shannon coming out? Number Two, what is their

1628
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: evaluation of them of him now? And number three, would

1629
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: he be comfortable? Because everybody who's covers the Niners has

1630
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: already said the question is not would he come in

1631
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: to be the starter? Would he come in and be

1632
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: able to be okay backing up and supporting brock Purty well,

1633
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: And so that brings in four. You just acquired a

1634
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: guy who played with him in Carolina. Hey, Christian, can

1635
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: you come in for a second. What dideriment's like with

1636
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield when you were in Carolina. I mean it

1637
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: feels like there's a lot of things that could line

1638
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: up there. Um in that you see the Rams maybe, sure,

1639
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're they don't even have anybody to play quarterback.

1640
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: Stafford's done well, but the team's Yeah. The crazy thing

1641
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: is is like he does he he used to have

1642
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: a pretense propensity to elevate. We just haven't seen it

1643
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: in a long time. He hadn't really done it this year. Um,

1644
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: It's the damnedest thing. It is because you go back

1645
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: to in the second half of that season, said it

1646
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: all the time you want it was no o'delly just

1647
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: saw it ripped, it went and it just got broken. Yeah,

1648
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know it's one of those things. Look

1649
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: at the birthday boy, Yeah, happy birthday to Drew. What

1650
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: treat to Drew? That's a I did. I loved it.

1651
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: That was a Garoppolo can't stay healthy. It justad luck

1652
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: and he can't his winning percentages him with Montana and

1653
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: Steve Young and forty Niners Lore, I would like to

1654
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: see if I could just play what would you like

1655
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: to see happen? And I don't know if he's got

1656
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: any game left, but I'd like to see the Colts

1657
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: because you don't see an NBA teams are out of

1658
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: it who have veterans and one one year Eels will

1659
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: release them and allow them to go ring Chase? How

1660
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 1: could he do that with Ryan? Could they would know?

1661
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: That's out what I was way? Nick Foles? Yeah, oh

1662
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 1: could he could? They? Could they cut him of course?

1663
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 1: But then could he could he get to the Niners?

1664
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's would he be wavered?

1665
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: I guess veterans are even now. I would think so.

1666
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I could see someone just trying

1667
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: to roadblock it though, and would be yeah, you know,

1668
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: like who could roadblock him? That would be the only thing. Yeah,

1669
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: that I mean something like that. I don't they are

1670
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: ready made. They were by picking the Super Bowl before

1671
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: the Garoppolo injury. I think you felt that way too,

1672
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: like but I don't know. What can you do it

1673
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: with brock perty what's the forty Niners correspondent? I have

1674
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: to say? Is he just inconsolable right now? I can

1675
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: tell you he does not. He would he would prefer

1676
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: many options other than our former guy. He's against that,

1677
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: just as big get more germane to our situation is

1678
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens situation. So Lamar Jackson went down with a

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Speaker 1: knee injury in the first quarter, John Harbaugh saying yesterday,

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Speaker 1: days weeks, not in a year, but days weeks. Today

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Speaker 1: they're saying that it might actually be less serious than

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Speaker 1: initially thought. But they are going Huntley this weekend right

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Speaker 1: like they've already now. They carded off Patrick Queen in

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Speaker 1: that game too. By the way, the Broncos, they're gutless.

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Speaker 1: I want them relegated, guys. We still have five games left.

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Speaker 1: Its outrageous with all this carriage. Second weekend, did you

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Speaker 1: see the did you see the Broncos fan get who

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Speaker 1: gave him the paper bag treatment and said Broncos Country.

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Speaker 1: Let's hide. That's pretty good. We do have a score

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Speaker 1: and eight on the AAR. Who wants to win the

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Speaker 1: NFC South? Nobody is the answer? Saints visiting Tampa Bay tonight,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady a little prime time action as the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: welcome in New Orleans Zagora. I think the Bucks are

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Speaker 1: unhappy with what happened here. I think they'll get Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans the football. I think they win, and I think

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Speaker 1: they win huge Manning cast right, I believe so Bucks

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Speaker 1: ramant Um. One of the things that's just not being

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Speaker 1: like they are continuing to rollout Dalton like that. They

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Speaker 1: won't come about James. There's no conversation. I'd like to,

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Speaker 1: So I'd like to see him let go and maybe

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Speaker 1: he can go to the forty niners like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. It's the craziest thing. Bucks

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