WEBVTT - Title 42 Border Update 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.080 Hello podcast fans, and welcome to it could Happen Here, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.799 a podcast that today is hosted by me, James Down 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.600 and Mia Wong him here. Hello, Hi, So what we're 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.160 going to talk about today is situation on the border. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.279 We're working on a scripted episode which will take awayle 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.640 because they always do, and you know, if we want 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.080 that to be nice and sort of polished for use. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.520 But I did want to update everyone because I think 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.879 that what's happening it has a sense of urgency to it, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.120 and certainly like some of the mutual aid requests have 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.919 a real sense of urgency to them, and folks who 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.080 follow me on Twitter dot com and sort of noticed that, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.800 like in between the ship posts, and I've been down 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.920 at the US Mexico border for most of the tail 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.000 end of last week and the start of this week, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.120 sort of depicting what's going on there, along with my 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.440 friend Joe Joe Ariyama's who's a freelancer who we're going 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.039 to be working with on the scripted series. And people 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.360 can find Joe at Joe or Ori photo on Twitter. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.120 Joe's got some really good photos if you want to 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.039 see kind of what's going on. But the longer than 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.440 the short of it is that Title forty two ended 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.440 on well, to begin with, exactly the moment that it 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.720 ended was a subject of some contention. Right, we knew 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.759 it was going to end on the eleventh of May. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:31.040 Title forty two, if folks don't remember, is a emergency 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.839 public health measure. It's part of the United States Public 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.039 Health Law, the United States Code Public Health something something. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:44.360 Then allows border patrol to expel people from the United 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.040 States without giving them their due process, their asylum here. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.000 So basically they bounce the straight back to Mexico. Right. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.960 This has been in place since March of twenty twenty. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.800 We now know that the Trump mistation pressured the CDC, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.440 So in theory it was it came through the CDC, right, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.760 the Center for Disease Control under pressure from Drug Administration, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:14.000 direct pressure from from Pence and Stephen Miller. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.880 Was yeah, probably this was a Stephen Miller like, yeah, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.000 it's a primacy special. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:25.400 Yeah, bubblehead looking racist motherfucker has once again done something terrible. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.079 Not that some of his policies, As we'll get onto 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.880 this in descripted episode, the Biden administration has like copy 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.440 pasted some steep, some straight up Stephen Miller stuff in 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:39.760 it in its transit bounds and is absolutely liable for 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.960 I don't want to use the word chaos at our 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.000 border because that plays into this fox to use narrative. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.079 There is a a very concerted plan to make people 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.760 suffer more than it's necessary at our border, and it 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.480 would have been very easy to avoid this. So title 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.760 forty two. Basically there are no consequences for cross but 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.360 it's also very hard to get asylum. The the CBP 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:09.600 officer can like spontaneously decide to give you your rights. Basically, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.720 if you're like, come on, bro, I'm gonna get killed 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.120 if I go home, then that person can kind of 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.320 decide to liow you to be processed for asylum, which 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.320 is what a lot of the Ukrainian folks got. Surprise, surprise, 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.240 and I feel like we should. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:27.920 We should also mention that under like multiple legal frameworks, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.680 you have the right to request asylum. This is this 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:36.600 is something that supposedly is inviolable, like you have the 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.520 right as a human being to request asylum in a country. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.120 Yes, and it doesn't matter where you've been before, and 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.480 it doesn't matter how you got there, and you don't 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.840 have to do it at a port of entry. It doesn't 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.760 matter how you enter the country or where you entered 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.760 the country. Yes, yeah, and yeah, under multiple different international frameworks, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.400 you have the right to do this. But the USA 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.400 has been denying that to people for three and a 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.840 bit years, right, three years, Yeah, and something like that. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.560 And you know, I mean I also could just want 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.960 to briefly mention this because I feel like there's this 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:11.000 way in which people people people will talk about like 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.640 one border regime and then never connect the dots between 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.320 this one and the other ones. But like, for example, 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.760 like this is something that happens all over the world. Yes, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.279 I mean like part part of like part of this 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.160 sort of like crisis is going on into Dan right 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.000 now is about like a ship ton of money. But 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.360 at the end this is actually happened in Libya too. 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.359 Is the Italian government paying the Libyan and sort of 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.760 Sudanese parabilitaries a ship ton of money to like keep 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.960 refugees like basically like trap to something sit enslave them 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.920 in camps to keep them from like getting to Italy 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.719 to try to request asylum. So yeah, this is a yeah, 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.560 like Fredecks does this, like this this is sort of 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:48.719 like a global. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:56.719 Yeah, terrible regime. The border like industrial complex is every 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.000 bit as bad, if not worse, than the defense industrial complex, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.679 so we're more familiar with Like, border policing is something 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.760 that really came post nine to eleven, right with the 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.800 creation of DHS in the United States, But we have 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.960 exported that shit everywhere. And like our border patrol agents, right, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.520 CBP has an office in lots of embassies, or like 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.920 they train Dominican border agents on the border with Haiti, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.400 for instance, and are trained by our CBP people. CBP 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.479 agents would deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan. Yeah, this is a 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.000 global thing. And like where I guess where I am now, 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.479 where I've been for a while is the place where 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.520 that all began, right, and where we continue to see 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.680 CBB innovating new and exciting ways to fucking take some 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.600 of the most desperate people in the world and make 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.240 them suffer and spend a shit ton of money and 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.400 preventing them from accessing their legal right to asylum or 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:55.200 detaining them while they do it. And so what has 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.400 happened as so Title forty two was supposed to end 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.800 on the eleventh of May, right that was when the 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.960 federal COVID emergency ended, so there was no reason for 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.640 it to exist anymore. There wasn't reason for it to 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:04.520 exist to begin with. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.360 But yeah, or any know, I like, don't don't, don't 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.760 think too hard about the fact that like that was 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.159 the last that was basically the last COVID policy that 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:12.920 was still in place. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.920 Yeah, Like there were not vaccine mandates for the people 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:17.839 meeting the migrants at the fucking border. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.880 Yeah, right, like this this was this was this was 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.520 never about public health, like no, you know, I mean, 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.280 and in so far as you can extricate sort of 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.719 like the sort of imperialist states public health measures from 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:35.840 social cleansing stuff, which has been happening for generations and generations. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.160 But yeah, like this was this was not about that, 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.480 like this, Yeah, this was just an immigration ban. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.680 Yeah, and it became a sort of albatross by an 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.800 administration who didn't want to be hit on border stuff. Right. 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.560 They didn't want to They didn't want to drop it 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.320 before the midterms. They initially pan to drop it in 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.400 December twenty twenty two, which is obviously right after the midterms. 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:57.760 They didn't we here we are in May, there was 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.840 a complicated legal challenge, which there always is, and it 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.480 doesn't matter because here we are right and it's supposed 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.080 to drop on the eleventh for me, so we're all thinking, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.240 right midnight on the tenth of May, we'll be out there. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.360 We'll see what goes down. They announced the day before 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.320 that it is dropping on midnight on the eleventh, so 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.280 they're going to ring every minute out of it. And 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.440 so in the days before, a number of migrants have 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.360 told me that they understood that they basically had to 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.280 get across before the end of Title forty two because 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.160 it was their understanding that if they crossed under Title eight, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.760 they would be ejected and they wouldn't be allowed to 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.200 return for five years and they would face felony charges. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.440 So they did this. I don't quite know often these 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.200 this information spreads about like WhatsApp in camps, right, or 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.000 sort of like a game of telephone in camps. So 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:52.840 I don't quite know where this information came from, but 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.560 it closely parallels something that mayorcus is as Secretary of 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.600 Home lanun Security said in the press conference where he 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.480 mischaracterized internationally Greac law. And he's done this multiple times, right, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.600 he himself someone who is a migrant to this country 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.280 who apparently family left Cuba when he was one year old, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.720 has just some of the most dog shit statements on 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.160 the record, and I've depicted some of those in the 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.280 scripted episode. Folks can look up my piece I wrote 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.600 for NBC a couple of years ago about the Biden 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.160 administration's policy towards Haiti if they they want to see 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.840 more of the dog shit stuff that he and Biden 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:33.280 have said. So in the days before the end of 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.600 Title forty two, a lot of folks started to try 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.920 to cross right because of this information that they had. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.760 They ended up at least where I am, which is 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.680 in southern California, right the sort of extreme southwestern border 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.439 in the United States, literally the end of the wall. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.839 Folks were crossing like around the end of the wall 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.200 right at low tide and turning themselves into border patrol 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.360 asking to make their case for their right Twist Island. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.199 And I think sometimes when we think about migrants, you know, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:06.560 we made me think about people from South America or 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:13.240 Central America, every single continent. I don't maybe not any 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:18.440 like Australasians, but like just in it. In a day 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.559 at one camp, I spoke to someone from Angola. I 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.640 spoke to someone from Congo. I spoke to someone from Sudan. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.280 I spoke to a Kurdish guy. I spoke to people 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:35.360 certainly from all over South America, Russians, Tagik people, Jamaican people, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.480 and like. For instance, just to give you a sense 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:39.920 of like how global it is, I spoke to a 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.080 Jamaican lady who is caring for a sixteen or seventeen 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.760 year old pair of Tagik siblings who didn't speak any 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 of the relevant languages for communication with border patroller with 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.320 other people in the camp, so she would use her 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.040 phone to call their mother, who spoke some English, give 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.880 information to the mother who would translated back to these 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:02.040 two young children. And all of these people had presented 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.120 like there were a lot of afgun people too. I 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.320 probably could have mentioned that up top, But like, these 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.199 are the people who we fucking abandoned once and now 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.760 we're trapping, trapping them in between little fences. And it's 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.080 hot in the day, right Like I slept out in 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.120 the desert last night and it was above one hundred. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.719 It's not that hot in San Diego, but in he 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.600 cumber where they're also holding people, it's absolutely getting into 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.959 triple digits every day, and it's cold at night, and 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:31.559 it's a really inhospitable environment for people. So folks were 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.800 held there, you know, up to a week in some 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:40.000 cases and are now I think being processed by a 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:44.120 border patrol. There was a ruling by a Florida judge. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.640 I'm not exactly clear on when because I was down 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.480 at the border and my phone didn't work very well, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.280 but at some point right before Title forty two drop 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.680 that they could have been released on humanitarian parole, which 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.440 means in theory, they have to be released with a 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.319 court date, right with a court date to a their 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.880 asylum hearing, which will slow down the process of releasing them, 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:10.240 right And so I've heard of court dates. I've heard 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.800 of folks being released already kind of with court dates 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:19.280 in twenty twenty seven, which this whole thing has just 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.520 been like a disaster in terms of the federal response, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.520 right like, and in just the cruelest possible way. It was. 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.560 Everyone could see this coming, right that there will be 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.760 more people trying to cross. There are sixteen thousand people 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.680 give or take in Tijuana alone, right, So it's just 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.839 across from where I live. Waiting to come to the 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.400 United States because they've been denied that right for three years, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.160 because they need somewhere safe to go, and because they're 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:51.160 not safe there. And the best estimate we got for 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.120 how many they could process from border patrol was two 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.280 hundred a day at the Tijuana porta ventry or Sannysedra 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.320 port of entry. Really, but we don't know. There's no 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.800 clear I don't know how many people they're processing every day, right, 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.160 but these people who do come in now have to 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.640 have a hearing date before they can be released when 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.880 if they get through. So I spoke to a young 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:16.080 man and his son who I spoken to at the border, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.960 and he had been released into the United States where 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.880 a charity in San Diego will provide him with two 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:30.080 nights what like two nights of accommodation, right, and then 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.160 it can't quite work out what then, like he's out 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.719 on his own, you know, Like I guess we'll find 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:42.040 out tonight. But he has to find a sponsor. I 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.240 don't quite understand how he was released without a sponsor, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.120 but it seems like the system is kind of bungling 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.600 things up, and these folks have to fund their own 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.000 flights to wherever it is a sponsor is right, So 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.079 they have family or community, they're having to work out 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.960 how to get to that family and community, so be 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.520 they're the greyhound or a plane or a train. So 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:10.920 it's all in all a giant classifuck with very human consequences. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:16.400 Like I can't stress enough how like every possible demographic 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.120 has represented old people, little tiny children, right, Like I 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.720 was talking to a little Afghan girl, not really talking 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.920 to we don't share any languages, but I was more 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.559 just like making funny faces for a while and sort 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.600 of pointing at things, and like it just breaks my 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:38.720 heart that there are little children who like especially you know, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.480 she's a little girl. She's in Afghanistan. We told her 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.040 shit ton of lies about Afghan women to justify twenty 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.080 years of killing people and of certain people making money 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:51.880 from killing people, and like this was supposedly they're like 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.280 canard was that this was for Afghan girls and women, right, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.360 And here's an Afghan girl sleeping in the fucking dirt, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.280 like twenty twenty minutes from where I live. And I 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:08.800 can't even give this kid like hot meal because I 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.760 can't fit it through the bars of the fence. Like 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.520 Everything that goes across to these people has to go 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.240 through the bars of the fence. Right, So someone worked 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.640 out that pizza pizza could fit through because flat right, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.720 people have been getting pizza. But other than that, they're 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.760 getting you know, bottles of water, granola bars, you know 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:34.080 things that fit through a fence, beef jerky. And they've 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.040 been there for days in some cases. And that's a 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.600 camp that's relatively accessible, right, I can pull off the interstate, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.080 drive down a dirt road and be there in like 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.240 I say, twenty minutes. The camps are less accessible. We've 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.400 heard the conditions are much worse. A couple of Jamaican 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.960 guys told me that there was another camp that we 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.840 weren't we tried to get access to, weren't able to 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.680 get access to, that was further west from where we were, 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.400 where people were hungry they're getting. This is all just 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.560 from that source. I have reached out a border patrol, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.320 but as of today, they haven't got back to me, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.920 saying that they were getting a bottle of water and 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.560 a granola bar every day, and that like some of 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.080 these other folks had taken it upon themselves to like 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.640 walk over there to try and get them food, right, 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.200 people who are already not in the great situation themselves, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.680 and they kept asking why couldn't we go there, why 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.520 couldn't we help them? Like it was very admirable right 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.080 to see folks who are in a pretty bad way 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:31.760 be like, hey, these people need help more than we do. So, yeah, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.960 that's a situation. I think we should take a break 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.320 for advertising then sorry, I h hopefully not for a 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:52.720 drone or some shit. All right, we're back and this 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.400 is another happy and exciting episode in which I tell 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:01.240 you things that will brighten your day. So something I 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.720 wanted to talk about because I think it's important is 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.520 the mutual aid response to this, and it's been really 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:12.840 really impressive. You know, I live in a place where 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:17.720 the Democrats are absolute dog shit. Well we'll do. It's America, right, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.240 but like just the particularly cringe like cast real liberalism 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.280 of San Diego Democrats is like as always on display. Right. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.760 I saw one of them tweeting today about how CBA, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.160 DHS and CBP are doing a great job and keeping 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:37.400 us safe, and like, my like makes me want to 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.280 say things I shouldn't say on the podcast, I guess. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:46.800 But what that means is that like our government isn't 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.600 going to do shit, right, Like it is entirely on 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.160 us to look after each other. And people have done that. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:58.240 The groups like American Friends Service Committee, which is a 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.400 great organization which has really good stuff on the border, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.840 have been down there every single day, right, Like there 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.600 have been days when I've left at one am there's 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:09.720 still someone there. They've been giving people water, giving people food. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.000 A huge need that people have is to charge their phones. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.560 And the way that migrants interact with CBP, at least 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.600 in theory, the way you get an asylum appointment is 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.160 booking it through an app called CBP one. We've talked 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.240 about this on the podcast before, but CBP one is terrible. 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:31.119 It is a terrible app that doesn't work. And that's 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.240 for people who have phones and Wi Fi. Right, if 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.399 you are stuck in between two fences and a dusty 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.920 piece of ground, how the hell are you supposed to 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.959 charge your phone? You don't have Wi Fi, right, you 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.480 may not have a data plan that works in that area. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.960 So a huge unmet need was charging charging phone. So 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.040 we were able to get some donations from the team 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.439 and buy a big charger. Other folks turned up with 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:01.399 charges even all the news see to include like like 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:05.199 Fox National weren't there, which is a good thing, but 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.880 like and we could talk about that actually as well. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.480 My goods will specifically ask which news network you're with, 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.119 which I think is that? I think that's good. I 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.200 think it's good. They tell Fox News to fuck off, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.520 because yeah, someone who participates in your dehumanization doesn't also 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.040 deserve to make money from your trauma. And so every 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.240 news network that was there, right, all the local folks 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.040 from San Diego were just constantly shuttling back and forth 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.359 to their vans, charging phones constantly, constantly, constantly, and it 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.280 became a bit of a cluster because obviously there's literally 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.879 just hundreds of people in this small area, dozens of 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.320 hands reaching to a defense. Charge my phone, Can I 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.320 have my phone back? Charge my phone? And in the 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:50.720 English and Spanish and French and command Gy and Vietnamese 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:55.640 and all these other languages, right, So it was very 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.600 hard to organize that. So folks came down, Folks from 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.320 San Diego from different sort of mutual aid groups came 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.960 down and they organized a system. Right, They got Painter's tape, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.679 wh the names of the people on the back of 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.040 the phone. We had this huge ash battery that we 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.199 were able to get and that they were able to 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.840 charge people's phones, get them their phones back to them. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.560 And that is a crucial thing, right that in that scenario, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.240 not only is it your only way to communicate with 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.800 border patrol, it's your only way to communicate with your family. Right. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.560 Like one guy had lost his phone, and so I 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.359 just bought him a burner phone or you know, one 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.320 of those Walmart phones so that he could call his 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.640 family because the family didn't know where he was. Right 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.520 last they'd heard he was in Mexico or maybe even 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:45.720 further south. So the phones are super important. Other mutual 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.719 aid groups have been getting blankets, right. I saw an 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.040 Afghan family turn up and had they had crayons for 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.320 the Afghan kids who were there, right, and like coloring 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.199 books and things for children to do, because it's probably 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.960 boring being a kid, and it's probably being a kid 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.080 where like every day men with guns and camouflage gear 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.960 turn up and they speak a language you don't understand, 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:07.959 and then you don't know what they say, and then 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:08.560 you stay there. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.080 Yeah, and I want to kind of just there are 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.120 lots of things that could get called camps that are 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:21.600 like not camps, right, Like this is like this this 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.440 is not a camp in the sense of like there 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.960 are buildings that you go into or even like there 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.520 are tents. It's just like oh yeah, no, yeah, I 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:31.119 think that's. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.280 A very good I think that I haven't mentioned. Thank you. Yes, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.359 this is people lying on the dirt. Occasionally they have 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.600 a mylass space blanket. Occasionally they have a top. If 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.119 they want to make any form of shelter, they have 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:45.840 to use the only thing they have to use is 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.320 the wall itself, right, so up against the wall, people 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.919 have made like a lean to kind of situation with 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:55.240 the top, right, But no, this is by no means 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.440 suitable shelter. Literally, people are lying on the dirt like. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:04.280 It's just a cage, like in a desert. Like it's yeah, 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.359 it's it's, it's, it's, it's it's it's the kind of 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.800 thing that like, like you, it's the kind of thing 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:10.400 you would put it in a park list movement. People 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:11.760 would be like, oh, no, one would ever do that. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.400 She's like no, no, Like this is just sort of yeah, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.119 this is what US border policy is. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:23.560 It's these like just these open air cages. Yeah, it's 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.440 you wouldn't. Like, you know, I go to the zoo 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:27.440 in San Diego and the animals have much better conditions 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.159 than that. There's no running water. There was one porterloo 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:38.080 toilet for five hundred people. Yeah, it's terrible. It is awful. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.760 It's little. It's people wrapping their babies in my love 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.080 blankets and trying to get them to sleep at night, 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:48.840 you know. And that's the same. It's several places up 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.760 and down the border, right, they're starting to clear them 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:56.439 out now, and so sort of Tuesday, Monday. So some 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.680 people got there a week ago, I think, and they've 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.119 been stay there for a long time. And yeah, like 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.479 it's at no point does there seem to have been 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:11.800 any consideration for even giving people shade or shelter or like, yeah, 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.199 the very basics, and like I should reinforce it. In 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.359 twenty eighteen, when Trump blocked a large group of migrants 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.480 from entering in the United States, the government of Mexico 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.720 did considerably better than this. It was by no means 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:30.360 a good situation for those children at all, but they 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:34.399 did better than this, which it's a bitterly extremely low 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.080 bart clear, but we have failed to clear it completely 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.160