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Speaker 2: I'm just about that Action Bolso.

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Speaker 1: Okay in three two. Welcome into the Action Network Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM. The King of sports Books. Brendan

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Speaker 1: Glasheen your host today, rejoining you for another NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: Betting Update episode. We are one week from Thursday, one

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Speaker 1: week from this Thursday from the NFL Draft. It gets

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Speaker 1: going Thursday, April twenty fifth in Detroit. The usual cast

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Speaker 1: of characters joining us for our betting update around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We have Travis Reid, Action Network NFL Draft Analyst,

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Speaker 1: also contributes over at bet Labs. Our director of Research

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Speaker 1: and Media, Evan Abrams and NFL contributor at Action Network,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Wayne Okay Jens. A lot of news that kind

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Speaker 1: of came through this morning as it relates to some

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Speaker 1: marquee players, one being Divine Smith signing an extension with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, to Forrest Buckner with the Colts agree to

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Speaker 1: a new deal. T Higgins anticipating to play for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals this year and not be traded for his request

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Speaker 1: or in play on the franchise tag for this season.

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Speaker 1: But we'll dive into that, we'll mix and match that

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Speaker 1: stuff in there that doesn't suit the audience as far

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Speaker 1: as what can be bettable, actionable for the draft. So

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Speaker 1: on this day, April fifteenth, with a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: actually from a content standpoint, what we might hear from coaches, executives, players, etc. Coordinators?

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Speaker 1: Twenty five teams start their voluntary workouts today across the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, So I'm curious we'll dive into that too.

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Speaker 1: If you can glean anything from what these people say,

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Speaker 1: or if they do say something, don't listen is the

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Speaker 1: other way of looking at that. So first up, I'll

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Speaker 1: go to Jacob Wayne first. Any bets that you like

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Speaker 1: right now at current prices when you surf around the

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Speaker 1: market as it pertains to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: Overwhelming theme for me this week, it's just the offensive

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Speaker 3: I think these tackles are going to fly off the

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Speaker 3: board on Thursday Night. I love over nine and a

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Speaker 3: half offensive lineman. I think Evan brought this up on

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Speaker 3: a previous show too. But if you can get that

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Speaker 3: really anything under minus two hundred, I still think it's playable.

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Speaker 3: But obviously you know there's still some minus one to

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Speaker 3: fifty five's out there, so shop around for sure. But

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see over nine and a half

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman we had on the Action site. I'm got

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Speaker 3: a butcher. This guy's name Nick Gerwisco, I think published

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Speaker 3: his mantrat on Action. He's got a great track record

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Speaker 3: with these, and he had eleven offensive lineman going in

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Speaker 3: the first round, including Kingsley Sua Mattea out of BYU

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Speaker 3: we're gonna see a lot of offensive linment off the

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Speaker 1: Travis Reid, anything that you're interested in right now that

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Speaker 4: Up, Yeah, I'm going to go to the quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 4: saw an interesting tweet from Diana Rossini of ESPN. You

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Speaker 4: had talked to a GM who said nobody even knows

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Speaker 4: Most teams don't even know who they're taking yet. So

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take advantage of we've been penciling in

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Speaker 4: this JJ McCarthy trade up to five. I actually like

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Speaker 4: over five and a half. You're getting at plus money

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Speaker 4: plus one forty ish. I'm going to lean into that uncertainty.

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Speaker 4: And I know we saw a lot well, we're expecting

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Speaker 4: think we always get that discussion Roun, you know, two

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Speaker 4: or three weeks ago every year. So I'm gonna take

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Speaker 4: the over on McCarthy on five and a half for position,

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Speaker 4: I think Nix and Pinnix are both going to be

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Speaker 4: but I still think those are both going to be

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll circle back to that because the bo Nix

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Speaker 1: market says we were chatting before we got started. Very

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Speaker 1: fascinating Pennix too, Evan Abral anything you'd like to give

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Speaker 2: I have so much and I have so much to

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Speaker 2: say based off of both of those bets. I agree

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Speaker 2: with him the one thing about the offensive lineman, and

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Speaker 2: and then I'll say something I like, but you really

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Speaker 2: just need one of Morgan, Kingsley or Suemada. I can't

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Speaker 2: but one of those three offensive linemen and you pretty

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Speaker 2: much cash your first round offensive lineman bets. So completely

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Speaker 2: bet I do like right now, So Dallas Turner top ten.

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Speaker 2: I see it minus one seventy fives, minus one fifties.

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Speaker 2: There's a plus one hundred in the market right now.

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Speaker 2: So I took that bet. I see him at eight.

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Speaker 2: But to me, even odds, Dallas Turner top ten feels

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Speaker 2: odds and other books as well.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport had this this morning before we got started,

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Speaker 1: thirty visits are allowed, and he's likely the top edge

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Speaker 1: rusher top ten pick to Evans point. So that hints

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Speaker 1: at something we'll dive into in a moment too, about

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Speaker 1: the inevitable. We think the inevitable trade down by one

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals really do like Marvin Harrison Junior. So

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Speaker 1: I think they're all gonna connect. You're gonna connect the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like again if you've been tuning

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sam Ta. For me, I'm still buying Drake May

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Speaker 1: there may be is value there on Knicks. But based

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Speaker 2: Sure, So just as from my point of view, I've

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Speaker 2: been in I have a big position on Daniels too.

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Speaker 2: I've been kind of in love with that from the start.

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Speaker 2: Now the market has kind of flowed my direction. So

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Speaker 2: I've actually done what was just suggested by Jacob, which

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Speaker 2: is I'm taking a piece of the May at two

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Speaker 2: at some point. It's happening now. Whether this this is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so bo Nix and Pinix for that case, are

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Speaker 1: So as far as the draft positions of Knicks and Pennox,

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Speaker 1: Thirteen players are attending. Williams is on that list, Daniels

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's gonna go, and they're gonna go to him,

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Speaker 3: He just wants to win. And I don't think he

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Speaker 1: In the first round? Uh, that market is a one

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Speaker 1: Now JJ McCarthy plus two twenty to go number three

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Speaker 1: Is there anything actionable right now on JJ McCarthy today

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Speaker 4: I mean, I like the over still over five and

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think we've said too much about this trade

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Speaker 3: I don't hate a flyer on the Broncos to do

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Speaker 3: even be that cost prohibitive. But I could see that

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Speaker 3: and if we're all kind of saying like the trade

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Speaker 3: the Broncos are a team that could make some sense.

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Speaker 2: I completely agreed. I thought I saw this Borden saw Denver.

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Speaker 2: My only worry, and I guess we could have a

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Speaker 2: quick note on this, is that Minnesota draft before them.

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Speaker 2: Do we really feel like if they wait at eleven

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Speaker 2: and don't make the move, they're going to pass on

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Speaker 2: the guy that they've been linked to taking and drafting

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Speaker 2: up to That was my only worry is I was

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Speaker 2: trying to get over that in my head. But nine

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Speaker 2: If I was going to make a dark throw right now,

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Speaker 1: their first pick plus nine hundred. The Forest Buckner with

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Speaker 1: So anyone have thoughts on the news that just came

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Speaker 3: Jacob, Yeah, I mean, speaking on the wide receivers, I'm

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Speaker 3: still betting under six and a half first round wide

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Speaker 3: receivers wherever I can find it. It's definitely getting some steam.

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Speaker 3: So try to see even get anything under minus two hundred.

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Speaker 3: But I still am very confident in that play. I

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Speaker 3: think we might only see five in the first round,

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Speaker 3: to be honest. And it's not that there's a lack

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Speaker 3: receiver room. But we talked about offensive lineman. I think

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Speaker 3: those guys are going to fly off the board, and

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Speaker 3: there's so much depth in this wide receiver class, like

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Speaker 3: you can find comparable players to whoever you're selecting at

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Speaker 3: the end of the first round, late in day two,

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Speaker 3: and I think teams are going to see that surplus

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Speaker 3: it at that pick. The bill obviously how it leads

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Speaker 1: Travis, you have thoughts on any of the news from today,

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Speaker 1: anything that could possibly relate to a bet that you're

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Speaker 1: eyeing or targeting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Dallas Turner made a visit to the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: which I thought was interesting. They have the fifth pick.

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Speaker 4: This is another situation where we've like almost every mock

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Speaker 4: so I think it's one where you can kind of

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Speaker 4: of the early receivers. You can get that at ten

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Speaker 4: to one. And I've heard some pushback on that because

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Speaker 4: they just signed some receivers and then I looked and

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Speaker 4: it's Darnelle Mooney and Rondelle Moore and those guys are fine.

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Speaker 4: They're but they're not preventing you from taking a top

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Speaker 4: ten receiver if you think that's the guy that you

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Speaker 4: won on your team. So I think at ten to one,

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Speaker 4: you know, taking we are we agree that those top

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Speaker 4: three receivers are all like really great, like the market degrees,

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Speaker 4: the scouting degrees. So I think they could easily grab

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Speaker 4: like a Roma Dunze there if neighbors were to fall there,

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Speaker 4: They're going to take him, so over a Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 4: So I think at ten to one, taking a receiver

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Speaker 4: for the Falcons first pick. I think that's good value

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 1: And Evan anything from the news today Hagans Willam Smith yea.

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Speaker 2: So I'll start with the wide receiver stuff. A completely

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Speaker 2: agree with Jacob again, under six and a half five

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Speaker 2: even six is very likely, so I was on that

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Speaker 2: as well. I think that's a great value in that bet.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to look at the Eagles for a

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Speaker 2: second after the Devanta stuff. I see a bunch of

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Speaker 2: O line. I was thinking cornerback there. I see it

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Speaker 2: like two to one in the market, so trying to

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Speaker 2: bolster that area. I was looking at Eagles at two

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Speaker 2: to one. I still love the Turner bet. Again, we

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Speaker 2: talked about earlier top ten plus one hundred one thing.

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Speaker 2: I honestly didn't have too much of a feeling, but

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Speaker 2: I saw that the Seahawks signed Tom Send the offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: There's still minus one sixty to take another offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: They've been linked to a few different guys there in

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Speaker 2: the middle, so I was trying to feel that or

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Speaker 2: D lineman potentially as like plus one seventy five was

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Speaker 2: my alternative there. But I think that's that's the only

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Speaker 2: thing I got right now.

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Speaker 1: Those are the three favorites for the Eagles with their

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Speaker 1: first player drafted corner O line and then D line

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Speaker 1: or edge rusher at the moment, okay, and then the

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Speaker 1: last thing I'll ask you, guys, unless you have anything

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Speaker 1: else you'd like to give out. Voluntary workouts start today

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Speaker 1: for twenty five teams, so there will be media availability.

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Speaker 1: People will talk. Coach and people have been talking. Don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong. It actual people that are actually on

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Speaker 1: the teams already. Coaches, coordinators, players, quarterbacks, big name receivers,

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Speaker 1: go right down the list. Guys that are in maybe

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Speaker 1: Ceed Lamp's not there, but guys that maybe Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: is getting questions about his future. Just using the Dallas example,

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Speaker 1: can we what do you caution people, Travis when people

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Speaker 1: start talking after some voluntary workouts as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: the draft and what it how can relate to the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would especially ignore most players what they say.

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Speaker 4: A lot of them aren't in the know of what

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Speaker 4: their GM or that whole boardroom is thinking. So I

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Speaker 4: would especially caution people when those they talk about positions

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Speaker 4: they're looking at or players they like. Sometimes it's just

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Speaker 4: players because they have like the same agent, or they

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Speaker 4: went to the same college. You know, they just happen

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Speaker 4: to be friends in another way. So yeah, I would

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Speaker 4: ignore most of what players say. If you can get

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Speaker 4: into more of the if the GM's actually you know,

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Speaker 4: going up there and doing a press conference, I think

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Speaker 4: that you can actually get some information out of But

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Speaker 4: most of them aren't going to do that anyway, So

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Speaker 4: I would say take everything with a grain of salt

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Speaker 4: that said during these OTAs right now, because there's probably

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Speaker 4: not a lot of information that a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Jacob, anything on that note as far as the OTA starting.

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Speaker 3: Up, not a ton specifically there. But I do have

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Speaker 3: one more thing that's actionable right now.

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: I really like Romadunze at nine to the Bears. I

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Speaker 3: grabbed it at plus two fifty.

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Speaker 1: So Jeremiah Daniel Jeremiah, I think just brought that up

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Speaker 1: on a podcast or something. It's not maybe it wasn't

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Speaker 1: his latest molock from a few weeks ago, but I

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Speaker 1: did see Jeremiah brought up a Doonzay to go nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's seeming for sure there's still some plus two

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Speaker 3: hundreds out there, though he's the favorite, and I think

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Speaker 3: that'll keep getting shorter. Looking at the Bears, they did

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Speaker 3: get Keenan Allen obviously, so I think some people thought

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Speaker 3: wide receiver wouldn't be the pick for them. But he

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Speaker 3: turns thirty two years old the week in the draft,

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Speaker 3: and he's on the final year of his contract. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure how much of a long term asset he's

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Speaker 3: going to be for them. And Shane Waldern their NEWFC

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Speaker 3: wants to run base eleven personnel. Their wide receiver three

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Speaker 3: and eleven personnel right now would be Tyler Scott, who

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Speaker 3: was a four round pick last year. Pretty one dimensional

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Speaker 3: speed threat. I think they really need an X, like

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Speaker 3: a true X receiver in this offense, and you know,

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Speaker 3: trying to set this up as best they can to

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Speaker 3: help Kaila Williams have success right away. Roman Danza would

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Speaker 3: be incredible in that offense. Weldron two last year in Seattle,

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Speaker 3: heavy banging the drum for Jackson Smith and Jiba to

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Speaker 3: be the first round pick. They had dk Metcalf, they

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Speaker 3: had Haliwakee, they didn't really need a receiver, but he

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Speaker 3: was really pushing for them to get JSN and could

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Speaker 3: see a similar situation here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good, that's a good look. Yeah, I did

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Speaker 1: see that with Jeremiah. He brought that up again. I

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Speaker 1: think it was in a mock, but I think he

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Speaker 1: also he readdressed it if you will in a podcast recently,

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Speaker 1: a draft podcast talking about what the plan might be

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Speaker 1: for the Bears at nine A dooneesay at nine plus

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Speaker 1: two hundred at MGM Evan Abrams. Anything else you'd like

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Speaker 1: to share and what we might hear from folks this

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Speaker 1: week from teams at OTAs.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I get with OTAs is, honestly, sometimes

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Speaker 2: patterns right if you see the same position or you

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Speaker 2: try to take like a step back and look at

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Speaker 2: the players and see if you can find a pattern.

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Speaker 2: Aside from that a lot of noise. That's all I

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Speaker 1: Okay, all rightchents. Good stuff. We are back next week

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Speaker 1: for Draft week. It will actually be draft week, so

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