Speaker 1: Forever, Hello about I'm loving it. You know, I learned
Speaker 1: recently that justin Timberlake and Push a Tea came up
Speaker 1: with that little jingle for McDonald's. Wait, really, yes, but
Speaker 1: now it makes me like it less.
Speaker 2: But hold on bout feels like like they've been doing
Speaker 2: it for centuries.
Speaker 1: No, before that, McDonald's was we love to see you smile.
Speaker 3: We love to see you smile. I feel ancient, ancient.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, and then I don't know what it was
Speaker 1: before that.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: All we know is that justin Timberlake was a part
Speaker 2: of the he came up with, said I love loving it.
Speaker 1: I said, well, when did they cross paths? And how
Speaker 1: does one write a jingle for McDonald's because I feel
Speaker 1: like every time the commercials come off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marie, I'm kind of kind of confused that how
Speaker 2: come we haven't made a jingle. We haven't even made
Speaker 2: a jingle for our own fucking pod. Okay, don't okay,
Speaker 2: I'm coming over stuff regularly.
Speaker 3: It's me too.
Speaker 1: I'm coming up with vernacular regularly, the same that is
Speaker 1: in people's like every day. I mean, yes, that's what
Speaker 1: it do exists. We're gonna be in the Websters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I came out the womb dehydrated. So
Speaker 2: there we go.
Speaker 1: M just the dry, ashy baby.
Speaker 2: And here I am moisturized as fuck. Did you have
Speaker 2: hair when you were born?
Speaker 1: Sorry, I feel like since we're talking about it, people
Speaker 1: want to see the visual.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was supposed to be born on Valentine's Day,
Speaker 2: but I was born a little early, obviously on Groundhog's Day,
Speaker 2: because I ate some of my mother's placenta coming and
Speaker 2: I got really, really sick. So I was stuck in
Speaker 2: the hospital. They had to shave all my hair off.
Speaker 2: They had to shave shave the baby with a soft spot.
Speaker 3: How do you do that? Wait?
Speaker 1: What kind of clippers do you use?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: They cut all my hair off because they had to
Speaker 2: do like tests and whatnot, and my mother was crying.
Speaker 2: She said I looked like a lizard, my sister. My
Speaker 2: sister said I look like Grace Jones, which I mean,
Speaker 2: she's iconic. I'm here for that, but at the time,
Speaker 2: Grace Jones wasn't seen as like the hottest thing.
Speaker 1: I can see Grace Jones, you know, cause playing as
Speaker 1: a lizard too.
Speaker 3: Though I see it.
Speaker 1: I see the brain Oh man, you ate your mother's placenter.
Speaker 1: How lesbian of you?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean out the womb gay a fat
Speaker 2: gay a fack you know. Born early, That's I say, Marie,
Speaker 2: I stay on brand, Okay, I'm about this life early early. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I come early, I come early, I show late, I
Speaker 2: show up late, come early.
Speaker 1: I love that for us.
Speaker 3: How's how's my sweet sweet baby Marie.
Speaker 1: I'm fine? Thank you for checking out me, Sydney. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be born in October, I think, and
Speaker 1: I came in September. I was early too. That's the
Speaker 1: last time I was early too.
Speaker 2: You have never showed up on time anywhere. So I'm
Speaker 2: really glad for your birth.
Speaker 1: Literally September twenty third, two thousand. Last time I was
Speaker 1: early because the day I was born.
Speaker 3: Put that in a Guinness World Record.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm good though. My good siss Sidney messaged me last
Speaker 1: night and was like, what's going on? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch feeling sad, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm available. Do you want to talk? And I was
Speaker 1: like no, And of course she called me immediately and
Speaker 1: she made me feel better. So you know, I woke
Speaker 1: up I feel good, or as good as one can
Speaker 1: feel on whatever day of the week it is morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be cute about it. I
Speaker 1: legit don't know what day of the week it is,
Speaker 1: So shout out to you if you know the date
Speaker 1: and if you know what time it is. I love
Speaker 1: that for you. You know, you know the date, end
Speaker 1: the day of the week.
Speaker 3: Whoo.
Speaker 2: That sounds like you're real responsible, sounds like you have
Speaker 2: a daily planner. Yeah, this sounds like you are, you know,
Speaker 2: mentally stable and that's not I so, or or.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're you know, one of those people you know,
Speaker 1: like a beautiful mind types. If you know the date
Speaker 1: and the day like that means you got it written
Speaker 1: all over the walls of your house.
Speaker 3: Oh so you're mentally unstable but genius.
Speaker 1: Genius, but also whatever the other word is that you said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tik tiki boom, that's what you said.
Speaker 1: Tiki tiki boom, Yes what you said. You're Britney Spears.
Speaker 2: Shout out to mental health Mental Health Awareness Month. I
Speaker 2: think that's this month or last month or whatever. I
Speaker 2: feel like there's always.
Speaker 1: No This month is Pride date. I feel like you
Speaker 1: should know that.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, honestly, they those things are so close to me,
Speaker 2: mental health and pride, that it's just messed into.
Speaker 1: I think mental health was last month, or Asian Awareness Month.
Speaker 2: But I think there's always, you know what the tea is,
Speaker 2: There's always something to be aware of, you know.
Speaker 3: M mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: When is Awareness Awareness Month? When is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, friend, I don't even know the date.
Speaker 2: I don't even know the date. Were you an expert
Speaker 2: in anything this week?
Speaker 3: Friend?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I was an expert on being a
Speaker 1: little bit difficult on set, But like it was like
Speaker 1: good Trouble, Who is the who is the congressman who
Speaker 1: just died? Good Trouble? He like marched with Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King the black Eye, he's bald.
Speaker 2: Sis John Lewis, I know nothing, I know nothing.
Speaker 1: Damn Sitny, you don't know John Lewis.
Speaker 2: You better ask Siri. Siri asked Siri, as Alexa, I
Speaker 2: ain't got me.
Speaker 1: This close to you met a white man? Answer that question?
Speaker 2: You know, and that and that is the work that
Speaker 2: needed to be done. He's doing the work. He's knowing
Speaker 2: the work and doing the work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you Andrew for being an ally,
Speaker 1: uh huh, of course, thank you for that good trouble.
Speaker 1: I was legit sitting here like who was it, John,
Speaker 1: John Adams, John Snow.
Speaker 3: I could not remember her last name, John snow.
Speaker 1: Right, but he uh. Anyway, So I was on set
Speaker 1: this week and the day before I got there, the
Speaker 1: hair person was like, her name is yeah.
Speaker 3: You can't say no, you can't say that, you can't.
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is when I saw her name,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a black woman. And then I
Speaker 1: got there and I saw it was a white lady,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, the white lady's gonna mess
Speaker 1: up my hair. And then the makeup artist was a
Speaker 1: black woman, and I was like, I've been burned too
Speaker 1: many times by makeup artists of all colors, so that
Speaker 1: I didn't know what she would or wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Equal opportunity to fuck that face up girl, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean I wish this was a solo so that
Speaker 1: could have been the title, but just put it on
Speaker 1: some dope bags. But anyway, I just I got there
Speaker 1: and the makeup artist was the hair person blew me away.
Speaker 1: She was prepared, she did what she needed to do.
Speaker 1: The makeup artist, not so much. She came out with
Speaker 1: like the Fisher Price Crayola brushes. It felt like she
Speaker 1: didn't read her syllabus. It just felt like everything she
Speaker 1: was doing was wrong. And when I bought out my supplies,
Speaker 1: she tried to tell me that I was wearing the
Speaker 1: wrong colors. Like She's like, oh, that's not the right
Speaker 1: foundation for you. That's not your shade. And I was like, Sis,
Speaker 1: this is what I wear. And she tried to anyway,
Speaker 1: all that to say, she did my face and it
Speaker 1: was she tried to like, I looked like you as
Speaker 1: a baby. It was it was all bad.
Speaker 2: She she tried to paint with all the colors of
Speaker 2: the wind on your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but except she was using like, you know, the
Speaker 1: darkest brown and the lightest brown at the same time.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of like ashy pastel pink colors
Speaker 1: one set that we both know, like not with these undertones. No. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I basically I didn't yell at her, but I told
Speaker 1: her I didn't like it in the most stern, most
Speaker 1: calm voice that I could, And she tried to throw
Speaker 1: a little bit of a fit, and I stood my ground. Sis,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't like this and do you need
Speaker 1: to change it?
Speaker 2: I love that that is, and I want everybody listening.
Speaker 2: When you don't like something, it's okay to stand up
Speaker 2: for yourself and say no, I don't want that, no,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when you're sitting in a chair, Like
Speaker 1: how many times have you been to like a hair
Speaker 1: appointment and you hated it or you didn't like it,
Speaker 1: or you thought it was it didn't look how you
Speaker 1: wanted it to look, And then you leave, you don't
Speaker 1: say anything, and you still tip mm hmm. And then
Speaker 1: you get home and you're like crying, You're sending pictures
Speaker 1: to your mother, who's laughing. The group chat is lying
Speaker 1: to you. Maybe your boyfriend is rubbing your back, but
Speaker 1: like you say something in the chair, Yeah, in the chair.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta say something. And uh you know,
Speaker 2: I will. I'm gonna cut my expertise short because we
Speaker 2: got to get our guests in here. But I also
Speaker 2: stood up for myself this week. I was at a
Speaker 2: comedy show and uh, you know, I had a great set,
Speaker 2: but I saw this beautiful couple at the at the
Speaker 2: end of the you know room or whatever, and I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, if you guys are looking for
Speaker 2: a third I am available and I was joking, but
Speaker 2: I was I was kidding, But the girl ended up
Speaker 2: was like, you are so funny. I would love to
Speaker 2: see your comedy again, so.
Speaker 1: Said comedy, which for the first time that I would
Speaker 1: love to see your comedy. I thought you was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I want to see a kuchie. No, you're so funny,
Speaker 1: I would love to see your kuchie.
Speaker 3: No, she's coming to the net.
Speaker 1: So will she be coming at the net?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I am I'm taking And the only person that's coming
Speaker 2: is the person who is dating me.
Speaker 3: So there's that sis.
Speaker 1: As long as you're making her come, that's really all
Speaker 1: that matters.
Speaker 3: Speaking of not making someone come, I love.
Speaker 2: This guest that we're about to have today.
Speaker 1: I it was weird. You think she don't make people come.
Speaker 3: No, no, I no, I've never made her come. That's
Speaker 3: what that's the intro, Sidney.
Speaker 1: It's giving you need to watch the sexual harassment.
Speaker 3: No wait, no, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Given you got to watch the sexual harassment.
Speaker 5: No, you're saying this also, like you make most of
Speaker 5: the most of the guests come.
Speaker 1: The guests have you made comes? The people want to know.
Speaker 3: I loving it.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, now hold on this guest. World renowned, world
Speaker 2: renowned comedian writer. I mean voice has been all over
Speaker 2: the place. I mean you could have seen her in Shrill.
Speaker 3: You'll see her.
Speaker 1: Literally anywhere, because I'll be watching some random things on
Speaker 1: TV or Hulu TV or Hulu Hulu or Netflix, and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, like it's her or Michelle Buteu.
Speaker 1: Those are the yes I see in everything and anything
Speaker 1: that I watched, Booked.
Speaker 3: Busy Blonde.
Speaker 2: Give it up, Yes, give it up for our spiraling
Speaker 2: expert Joe Firestone.
Speaker 4: Joe Firestone, Joe, thank you so much. Wait, okay, so
Speaker 4: you know how I I? Okay, so spiraling? Sure, but
Speaker 4: you know I did a panic. I had a big
Speaker 4: panic moment during the pandemic and I was like, I
Speaker 4: can't do comedy anymore. I have to apply to acupuncture school.
Speaker 1: Oh did I tell you this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, So this was like I'd never had accup. Sure,
Speaker 4: and so just like putting that out there. But now
Speaker 4: I'm like taking these classes. And there's this one therapy
Speaker 4: called Nikon therapy. It's like a Japanese therapy, but it's
Speaker 4: like psychotherapy. What you're supposed to do is you're supposed
Speaker 4: to be at the end of the day write down
Speaker 4: everything that you gave and everything that you received, and
Speaker 4: then what trouble you caused people. But the trouble doesn't
Speaker 4: have to be bad. But that reminded me of Marie
Speaker 4: what you were saying that, like you think about like
Speaker 4: sometimes it's not bad that you tell people what's wrong
Speaker 4: with what they're doing, but it's just you just keep
Speaker 4: note of it. And this therapy when prisoners did it
Speaker 4: in Japan, they didn't go back to prison as much.
Speaker 1: Ah, they give prisoners in Japan therapy amazing. That's a
Speaker 1: cute place to get locked up abroad. Write that down,
Speaker 1: So you write down what you gave, what you received,
Speaker 1: and trouble that you caused.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like it's not like it's not like I
Speaker 4: gave like a like a feeling to It's like all
Speaker 4: stuff that other people could observe. So you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I gave money to this store and then they gave
Speaker 4: me a sandwich for you know, it's like that kind
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, can you text this to me?
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I mean, Joe, the Snapple facts that you
Speaker 2: got going on up top of the pot.
Speaker 3: I mean, brave, very brave.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, I don't know where
Speaker 2: she's going with this, but I was on for the ride,
Speaker 2: the journey.
Speaker 4: I popped, I popped open the snapple. They changed, they
Speaker 4: changed the jar of a snapple.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean the bottom they did. It's plastic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a jar.
Speaker 1: Now, Joe talked to us about acupuncture school. How many
Speaker 1: years you got to go to school for that?
Speaker 4: Six It's a huge mistake. It was a huge mistake. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: have you got have you gotten acu But I just
Speaker 4: got it for the first time.
Speaker 2: No, no, we're not. I'm spending my money on hair
Speaker 2: and like clothes from pretty little things.
Speaker 3: I'm not getting acupuncture. Not at the moment. Friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I found out that in the one time
Speaker 4: I went. I found out that it's all because my spleen.
Speaker 4: That's a big problem.
Speaker 1: Does a spleen do? And where is a spleen?
Speaker 3: Not sure?
Speaker 4: Not sure? But I do you know it's it's means
Speaker 4: that you're anxious, you got stomach problems, and you're always
Speaker 4: craving sugar.
Speaker 3: That's me, that's me too.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I mean I think I got like two
Speaker 1: out of the three. They always graving sugar. Thing that's
Speaker 1: only once a month.
Speaker 4: You only crave sugar once a month.
Speaker 1: The closer I am to my period, the more I
Speaker 1: want desserts. I'm like, I crave sweet things, but like
Speaker 1: I'm not eating candy and stuff she doesn't for like
Speaker 1: cheesecake and banana pudding and like like treats like things
Speaker 1: like that. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Now, now, Joe, Now, when you were listening to us talk,
Speaker 2: did you did you have any anxiety coming into the pod?
Speaker 4: No? I didn't. I really felt like I'm just kind
Speaker 4: of I don't need to do much, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. Now, I can interpret that two different ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need to do much because we're doing all
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. Or you don't need to do much
Speaker 1: because we're not doing anything.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, okay. It's like a terrarium, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. It's already functioning though it's growing, and
Speaker 4: you just put in like a little little stone, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. The stone's not taking away, but
Speaker 4: it's not you know, I just figured this will be
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I feel pretty good about this.
Speaker 4: I was pretty I was feeling I was enjoying myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, now that is uh, that's a compliment coming
Speaker 2: from Joe because I don't I'm not saying that I
Speaker 2: don't think you enjoy yourself often. But I also don't
Speaker 2: think that you're just like hanging out and having fun
Speaker 2: with anybody.
Speaker 3: You're not all willy nilly with your good time, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying, but no, Yeah, that's a
Speaker 4: big that's a big problem. You have to be a
Speaker 4: fun person, you know what I mean. It's really it helps.
Speaker 4: I would say both of both of you are considered
Speaker 4: fun people by and large.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think we are. But you don't have
Speaker 1: to be a fun person. Sometimes you like that. And
Speaker 1: I've never said this word before, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'm saying it right. Melancholy. You know, sometimes you've
Speaker 1: got that friend that's like, you know, life is terrible
Speaker 1: and things are sad, and then the people in the
Speaker 1: room are like, it's so funny. He's so dark, he's
Speaker 1: so melancholy. That's okay, Saturday twice now in my life,
Speaker 1: isn't that Wait, isn't that egor.
Speaker 2: From where I'm from, Yeah, you're sorry, you've been rushing
Speaker 2: of the person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's mean, he's melancholy
Speaker 2: or no, he's just depressed.
Speaker 4: What okay, you could also be considered in some circles melancholy.
Speaker 4: He's definitely the melancholy friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they still hang out with eyre right.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he was considered the like, the black friend,
Speaker 2: so they had to hang out with him.
Speaker 1: Oh. I thought Tigger was the black friend.
Speaker 3: Oh. I thought Tigger was the crackhead.
Speaker 1: In some circles, also considered the black friend. Tiger was
Speaker 1: like the you know, like you know the kid we
Speaker 1: all went to school with that one kid that had
Speaker 1: way too much energy and they put him in that
Speaker 1: special class and it was only four chairs in that class.
Speaker 1: Tigger is that friend they didn't let they didn't let
Speaker 1: him switch classes.
Speaker 3: Now, Joe, where are you in the spectrum?
Speaker 2: Are you, you know, uh, the black friend or the
Speaker 2: black friend?
Speaker 4: Where are you between between the black friend and the
Speaker 4: black friend. It's a great question. I actually got it.
Speaker 4: I kind of I don't want to even say this,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: It, No say it.
Speaker 4: I think I'm more of a rabbit.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's not good.
Speaker 4: I'm just you know, paying attention to the carrots, same
Speaker 4: kind of getting pissed off where people eat the carrots.
Speaker 1: M hm, you know I was gonna say carrots rabbits
Speaker 1: have a lot of sex. Are you saying that that
Speaker 1: you identify as a very morning friend?
Speaker 4: I would, actually, I guess i'd revise it to piglet then, Joe, Joe,
Speaker 4: do you want to know something though, here's another Snapple fact?
Speaker 4: You ready? Yes, you know how they get little piglets
Speaker 4: to run around you know when then you race piglets
Speaker 4: little oreos?
Speaker 1: Wait, they race piglets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean some places where there's not at entertainment.
Speaker 3: Joe, you you will.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's never a dull moment in a
Speaker 2: conversation with you, because you're gonna just start saying ship
Speaker 2: that like all the information that you have is a
Speaker 2: diary of the mouth. You're gonna You're gonna spill it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna spill it, and we love that. Now, Now,
Speaker 2: how does that tie into.
Speaker 3: You spiraling though? Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it a thing where you don't want there to be,
Speaker 2: you know, silence, so you start just saying anything or
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not asking this, well probably yeah? Can we spire?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: First, for the people who are like spiraling. Thank your
Speaker 1: backing from the video game back in the day, and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, that was spiral.
Speaker 4: And it's like how you make you know, zucchini into noodles?
Speaker 4: What if that was my expertise? No, I I do.
Speaker 4: I think that maybe spiraling is when you like have
Speaker 4: start to like have some anxiety and then you just
Speaker 4: kind of add on to it really fast to make
Speaker 4: it worse and worse. Like for example, like if you
Speaker 4: send an email to someone and you think it's you
Speaker 4: realize that maybe it's a bad email or somebody's not
Speaker 4: getting back to you, and then you're like, oh, I
Speaker 4: know I should text them. And then you text them
Speaker 4: and then they're like what uh and they don't respond,
Speaker 4: and then you call them. And so it's like these
Speaker 4: kinds of things that elevate the conversation. Are the situation
Speaker 4: not not in your favor?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh, Sidney, I feel like you've been doing that, like
Speaker 1: not not not really all the way that, but I feel.
Speaker 3: Like, drag me, drag me, bitch, drag me.
Speaker 1: This is an open forum and this is a safe space.
Speaker 1: Joe is here, our rabbit. I'm sorry, I piglet and
Speaker 1: we the three of us, me, you and Andrew are
Speaker 1: the OREO for Joe. So. I I mean like the
Speaker 1: other day we were in the car together and you
Speaker 1: were like, is so and so mad at me? Mad
Speaker 1: at me? Should we call them? And I was like no,
Speaker 1: And you were like, let's call them now? And I
Speaker 1: was like no, We're on a way to do something, like,
Speaker 1: let's enjoy the day and if they are mad, we
Speaker 1: can do with that later. And you were like I
Speaker 1: could see you literally in my brain, yes, like biting
Speaker 1: your nails.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, I'm not I'm not doing this.
Speaker 3: I do I do today? Yeah? No, I do that.
Speaker 2: I am in a constant state of like stepping over
Speaker 2: my feelings so much that I'm like I'm stumbling. I'm
Speaker 2: just like falling into the bullshit. And I set myself
Speaker 2: up for failure a lot because I'm so worked up
Speaker 2: that when I finally talked to whoever, They're like, bitch,
Speaker 2: what isn't too much coming at me?
Speaker 3: Why? What is the deal? What's the real issue?
Speaker 1: You're in a constant state of are they mad at me?
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, I can't live there. You live on
Speaker 1: that block.
Speaker 4: It's really important to have somebody that doesn't live there.
Speaker 4: That's really important, to have a neighbor that lives a
Speaker 4: few a few blocks away, because it is It's like,
Speaker 4: the thing is, it's like you think someone's mad at you,
Speaker 4: and then you think everyone's mad at you, and then
Speaker 4: you think it's because of something intrinsic to you, and
Speaker 4: you think that you can never get over it and
Speaker 4: it will be and then it's like what we're at
Speaker 4: six Flags. Calm down, you know, we're at six Flags.
Speaker 4: But it's I think the key is comparmentalizing, or having
Speaker 4: somebody that I Sometimes it is like about like having
Speaker 4: someone uh like shoot it down. But I also think
Speaker 4: comparmentalizing is huge.
Speaker 2: Okay, but but I'm all, there's us, Joe, and then
Speaker 2: there's Marie. Marie's on the other end of the spectrum
Speaker 2: where she's never thinking what somebody else is thinking about her.
Speaker 1: She's never worth I do think about what people think
Speaker 1: of me. I'm one person with feelings. I don't know
Speaker 1: when I can't think of it right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah I might when Marie, but I do.
Speaker 1: I do have moments of ooh, did I say the
Speaker 1: wrong thing at that place? Or was I talking too
Speaker 1: much or damn, I really am funny. I should have
Speaker 1: let other people shine for a moment, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, think, Marie, when do you when have you ever
Speaker 3: thought that? In the seven eight years of me knowing,
Speaker 3: when have you ever been like.
Speaker 1: When I come home, when I come late at night,
Speaker 1: slee thing that that's when I that's when I sit
Speaker 1: And I'm like.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're but when you spiral, I think you
Speaker 2: you kind of keep it to yourself.
Speaker 3: Joe.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you do this, but when I'm spiraling,
Speaker 2: I'm calling everybody. I'm calling everybody until I get out
Speaker 2: of the spiral.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, it does. I find that the worst
Speaker 4: situation for that because yeah, you can call people and
Speaker 4: sometimes they help, but it usually doesn't help. But the
Speaker 4: worst is when you it doesn't even make sense, like
Speaker 4: why you're upset, and you have to spend so much
Speaker 4: time explaining why you started spirally in the first place
Speaker 4: that it's like it's just exhausting. That's the worst kiss scenario.
Speaker 3: Do you have an example, like a recent example of
Speaker 3: you spiraling?
Speaker 4: You know, I I think I spiraled a lot during
Speaker 4: uh during the during our quarantine time but like, for example,
Speaker 4: like if I that was everybody, Yeah, that was everybody.
Speaker 4: But like, for example, this is a classic example, is
Speaker 4: that I if I did really bad at a show,
Speaker 4: if I bombed, if I got heckled or something, and
Speaker 4: I couldn't talk back to them, I would be like,
Speaker 4: I am the worst. I am the worst comedian I've
Speaker 4: out of everyone I know. And then I'd like, there's
Speaker 4: no way I can go back on stage. It's actually
Speaker 4: it's something about me that's weak and bad and unfunny.
Speaker 4: And then I'll be like I'll call someone and be like.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just really did it.
Speaker 4: I did really bad and I'm bad at this and
Speaker 4: they'd be like no, and then and then from there
Speaker 4: I would just kind of like I would like try
Speaker 4: to move on, but then like I'd have like tears
Speaker 4: strolling like down my face. I'd like, Yo, okay, let's
Speaker 4: just let's go to dinner or something. But it was
Speaker 4: like I couldn't get over it, and it was like,
Speaker 4: really I could tell it. It was like hard on
Speaker 4: my friends too, like it was just like they didn't
Speaker 4: want to deal with this because it was like I
Speaker 4: got really stubborn about it.
Speaker 3: Well do you do it? A lot. Are you always spiraling?
Speaker 2: And that somebody has to come and kind of like
Speaker 2: clean clean up on all seven and just like mop
Speaker 2: up all the mess.
Speaker 4: Well, I found that I've kind of exhausted my resources,
Speaker 4: like the spiraling usually happens at like you're pointing.
Speaker 3: To you and myself.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, and it's like I feel like at
Speaker 4: this point what you usually helps me now because I
Speaker 4: can't do that in morge people in my life. So
Speaker 4: what I'm doing now is I'm just I'm smoking a
Speaker 4: cigarette and then I will and then I feel a
Speaker 4: lot better.
Speaker 3: Cigarettes.
Speaker 4: It's really bad. It's really bad.
Speaker 1: I like, I like how you whispered it into the microphone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were gonna be like, so I
Speaker 2: just do a bump of coke like you.
Speaker 3: I bread nothing.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say weed. I've been
Speaker 1: smoking weed. You said cigarettes, like you know, it does
Speaker 1: feel kind of like they're illegal though, like for some
Speaker 1: reason it seems like worse. Okay, do you have it
Speaker 1: because they don't even yeah, or something nearby. I want
Speaker 1: to see your smoking technique. Are you holding it between
Speaker 1: the finger or you holding it so stupid? This is
Speaker 1: in sexy Capri.
Speaker 4: This is like, this is really what I'm doing. I'm like,
Speaker 4: it's like it's not even it's not cute. It's like
Speaker 4: it's not cute, it's okay wow. But I find that
Speaker 4: it's like the the more. Yeah, I just kind of
Speaker 4: I don't know, Sidney, if you're stubborn like this as well,
Speaker 4: But I get really stubborn about how bad I am,
Speaker 4: and then it's like this story it cannot be broken.
Speaker 4: And that's why the spirally kind of stays low, which.
Speaker 2: Is crazy, Joe, because you have a Comedy Central half hour,
Speaker 2: You're constantly getting booked, you're working, You're like Joe Paris Show,
Speaker 2: You're doing everything.
Speaker 3: You're always you're in a room or you're on screen.
Speaker 1: So like, I've never seen you bomb on stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Joe, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know. I guess it's like it's the kind of
Speaker 4: thing where like, okay, so one time, this is kind
Speaker 4: of a funny, little, you know, a little fun experience. Okay,
Speaker 4: So I did. I did just for laughs a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago, and I was pretty sure I bombed
Speaker 4: that set. Like I was like, like, you know, when
Speaker 4: nobody talks to you after a set, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you've ever experienced. But then you're just like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is what it Oh shit, And so then I
Speaker 4: was like, I think I bombed. I think I bombed
Speaker 4: just for laughs. And then like a lot of people
Speaker 4: had to talk me down and it was like, you know,
Speaker 4: you didn't find you didn't find a more about it,
Speaker 4: and then uh, I kind of forgot about it. Eventually.
Speaker 4: I just kind of was like, you can't talk about
Speaker 4: it anymore. Nobody wants to hear about this. And so
Speaker 4: then a year later, I got a call from a
Speaker 4: number I didn't note and I let it go to
Speaker 4: voice bail, and it was another comedian saying, I heard
Speaker 4: you bombed it just for laughs.
Speaker 6: I just want to know if it's gonna be okay,
Speaker 6: And I was like, I did bomb. And then I
Speaker 6: was like I was kind of like validating in that regard.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I'm not crazy, I'm just bad comedy, okay.
Speaker 1: Cause she like a voicemail and said that she.
Speaker 3: But imagine you minded your motherfucking business.
Speaker 2: You's a year, You're you're done, You're done, You've booked
Speaker 2: other things, You're you got new management and everything, you've
Speaker 2: started over. You even have a new name like it
Speaker 2: was Joanna, it was Joanna Firestone, and now it's Joe
Speaker 2: because you had to switch it because you had bombs
Speaker 2: just for laugh And now this bitch is calling you
Speaker 2: on a fucking Saturday, like, hey, wondering is your is
Speaker 2: your career okay?
Speaker 3: Because I heard you bomb just for last a year
Speaker 3: of it is?
Speaker 4: It is just like I completely understand. I completely understand
Speaker 4: why she did it, and I also think that somebody
Speaker 4: was She was probably how to someone being like I bombed,
Speaker 4: I bombed, and someone else was like, you know who
Speaker 4: you should call? You know, it probably wasn't her idea.
Speaker 4: She wasn't there.
Speaker 2: I know somebody probably mentioned your name, like, well, Joe
Speaker 2: didn't have an amazing set, she decided to call you,
Speaker 2: been gone, messed up Joe's day.
Speaker 1: Joe's beautiful Thursday. Imagine it is it is. Imagine you
Speaker 1: do the work, you went to therapy, you got the closure,
Speaker 1: you put it behind you, and now this person is
Speaker 1: calling you asking you about this. Did you call her back?
Speaker 1: That people want to know?
Speaker 4: I did, Yes, I did, and I left him for voicemail.
Speaker 4: But I did just I was like the kind of
Speaker 4: thing where it was like what there's nothing you can
Speaker 4: say to make it the situation feel better because you
Speaker 4: weren't there and you're not in their head. But it's
Speaker 4: like it is the truth that, like time, the only
Speaker 4: solution to spiraling is maybe smoky cigarettes and also time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just kind of being like I'm not going to
Speaker 4: care about this in two weeks.
Speaker 2: How how but like that's the thing, Like you're not
Speaker 2: going to care in two weeks, but the feeling is
Speaker 2: so overwhelming. It's the only thing that you can think about.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing that you can focus on.
Speaker 1: But literally, time is what makes it better because in
Speaker 1: two weeks you're gonna be spiraling about something else. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think when when something like that, like a bad
Speaker 1: show or a bomb happens, you go to bed thinking
Speaker 1: about it. You wake up the next day still thinking
Speaker 1: about it. You're brushing your teeth, like I gotta get
Speaker 1: a real job. I'm not a comedian. This is terrible.
Speaker 1: After a couple of days, it's not the thing that
Speaker 1: you're thinking about, not the first thing you're thinking about,
Speaker 1: not the last thing you're thinking about. You're thinking about
Speaker 1: other things and maybe like you gotta, you gotta, what's
Speaker 1: what's the thing when you're hungover, you have to drink
Speaker 1: water like hair of the Dog, right, hair of the Dog.
Speaker 1: With comedy, you gotta get back on stage and have
Speaker 1: another good set. And I feel like that kind of
Speaker 1: cleanses the mind a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Joe, the thing is is that, like you know.
Speaker 1: What, Okay, okay, the dog is spiraling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the dog is spiraling. This is not the time.
Speaker 1: Please your dog off.
Speaker 3: Your dog is named Loaf. I'm crying. Joe.
Speaker 2: You're like very like niche comedy, like it's your like nuance,
Speaker 2: And I feel like you might think that you had
Speaker 2: a bad set, but people are just like listening to
Speaker 2: get on board with like your type of comedy, which
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: Which I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I feel like if somebody is killing in
Speaker 2: like middle of America, their jokes are probably like, so
Speaker 2: this is mean, this is rude, but like it'll say
Speaker 2: it though, right, it's a little it's gotta be a
Speaker 2: little hacky, just a little you know, like like Kevin Hart,
Speaker 2: I'm saying it on the record, I don't know, he's
Speaker 2: not pushing any buttons.
Speaker 3: In the like he plays it safe. He plays it
Speaker 3: safe all the time. So like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you have to not get laughs to
Speaker 2: remind yourself like, oh I'm different, Like it's not that
Speaker 2: I'm not funny, it's just that they've never experienced somebody
Speaker 2: like me before.
Speaker 3: You know, you disagree.
Speaker 1: Listen every time, I don't say I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get laughs. You don't have to understand me. But you
Speaker 1: don't think I'm funny, that's it. And if you don't
Speaker 1: think I'm funny, then I don't think I'm funny. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well maybe that if I'm not getting laughs,
Speaker 1: then I'm not gonna be happy when I go home.
Speaker 3: And what do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 5: I think that everyone in the zoom calls funny first
Speaker 5: and foremost. I think that what is your what is
Speaker 5: your question that you're asking Sydney.
Speaker 2: Like, have you been at a show maybe that somebody
Speaker 2: wasn't getting a lot of lass, but you were like, no,
Speaker 2: I see where they were going.
Speaker 3: I thought they were funny.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, like you can see, like you see
Speaker 5: people in different crowds like I think that, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: unfortunate when like the crowd is like the person hosting
Speaker 5: is like not a good time, and then it's just
Speaker 5: like they go into like Marie or whatever, and it
Speaker 5: affects Maurice. But I think, like Marie, you're always funny
Speaker 5: because like it's always like it's always something like you're
Speaker 5: always interacting with the crowd. So it's it's never like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm watching this person, you know, regurgitate the set after set, right,
Speaker 5: So it's like, Okay, this is a it's a new thing.
Speaker 3: Because so what you're saying about man, Joe, I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying I mean, Mara is the one. Marie is the
Speaker 5: one talking about not having a good night.
Speaker 1: Here, right. But also when you see me doing crowd
Speaker 1: work a lot talking to the audience, is because I
Speaker 1: don't have anything prepared. So they see me up there
Speaker 1: talking to people and not doing a set that you've
Speaker 1: seen before, it's because I didn't prepare anything for this show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still works.
Speaker 1: It's still works.
Speaker 4: It is it is. I do feel like it's the
Speaker 4: kind of thing where it's it takes a lot of
Speaker 4: I think that the like, I really agree with what
Speaker 4: you're saying, Marie, that you just need a good set
Speaker 4: to get back on track. But I think that I
Speaker 4: think the fear, like the fear is that you won't
Speaker 4: have another good set, you know, and then you're like,
Speaker 4: how many bad sets in a row? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess at that point you change things up. You
Speaker 4: have to make a change.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I understand that. But but everyone,
Speaker 1: everybody who is a comedian is going to have a
Speaker 1: night where that where they're off, their jokes are off,
Speaker 1: the crowd is off, something is off. But Joe, everybody
Speaker 1: in this zoom is freaking hilarious. I can't see you
Speaker 1: bombing more than once. I can't even see you bombing once.
Speaker 1: So to say like you would do it multiple nights
Speaker 1: in a row, I don't. I don't first like that.
Speaker 1: My brain is like, huh whah, I don't see that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well what about what about the art? Is someone
Speaker 2: mad at me or if they don't like you? That
Speaker 2: that's the biggest spiral that I have because I constant
Speaker 2: I'm in a constant state of not that I want
Speaker 2: to be liked, but I don't. I don't like when
Speaker 2: there's confrontation. I want to I want to fix it
Speaker 2: right away. Even if you don't like me anymore, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I just want to not worry about what the fuck
Speaker 2: the possibilities of you being upset at me at you
Speaker 2: go through.
Speaker 3: The same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sidney, I got to tell you something. This is
Speaker 4: really this is dark. But are you ready for this?
Speaker 1: No, I'm ready.
Speaker 4: In high school, I used to think people were so
Speaker 4: mad at me all the time, people that I didn't
Speaker 4: even wasn't even friends with. After school, I would go
Speaker 4: through the buzz book, Remember the buzz book where you
Speaker 4: have people's home phone numbers the phone book. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: I would call them on your family's phone, the family's phone,
Speaker 4: and I would the landline and no one would pick up,
Speaker 4: and I would leave message being like I'm so sorry
Speaker 4: for what I did today. Okay, that is truly unhinged.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because that is untimes. There's multiple last names
Speaker 1: that are the same. So you were everybody in the
Speaker 1: phone book leaving voicemails on the wrong person's machine.
Speaker 4: Doing they weren't home. They had no idea, but I
Speaker 4: believe these and like, can you imagine having a son
Speaker 4: or daughter or whoever, and then like checking the answering
Speaker 4: machine and just being like this, like this sad, sad girl,
Speaker 4: being like I'm so sorry to Tommy. I didn't mean
Speaker 4: to hurt him, and it's like what did this woman do?
Speaker 1: Like what did you do? And then Tommy's like, I
Speaker 1: don't who is Yeah?
Speaker 4: But that just so you know, Cindy, if you start
Speaker 4: to spiral in that way, just know that you're not
Speaker 4: calling their home phone. Okay. It's just like there is
Speaker 4: a level that people are taking it that you didn't.
Speaker 4: You did not take it.
Speaker 2: The problem is is that when you said that, you're like,
Speaker 2: you exhaust are your resources?
Speaker 3: That's what I have done.
Speaker 2: Like, if I think someone's mad at me, I will
Speaker 2: talk to everybody about it and they're like, bitch, I
Speaker 2: don't know what you want me to do.
Speaker 3: Do you just talk to the person like or figure
Speaker 3: it out?
Speaker 2: But I don't want to hear it anymore because it's
Speaker 2: ruining my life, it's ruining my energy. I'm in a
Speaker 2: bad mood because well, you know what the problem is
Speaker 2: is that people are not fucking honest. So if maybe
Speaker 2: if people would like, if they're being shady or being weird,
Speaker 2: don't gaslight me and make me think that, oh no,
Speaker 2: everything is fine.
Speaker 3: It's not. You're mad at me. You're upset about something.
Speaker 1: You see. This is why I'm honest, No, truly like
Speaker 1: with ever. I'm saying this with like every fiber of
Speaker 1: my being. It's so much easier to just be honest.
Speaker 1: Someone asks you if you're mad, if you're mad, tell
Speaker 1: them you're mad, and then tell them why. If someone
Speaker 1: asks you if you're okay, if you're not okay, tell
Speaker 1: them you're not okay, and then tell them why. It's
Speaker 1: so much easier to be honest because when you're honest
Speaker 1: with people, they're honest with you. And we don't have
Speaker 1: to play these guessing games adults. This is not you know,
Speaker 1: sixth grade recess. We're not you know, we're grown ups.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that I'm a good friend because I
Speaker 1: check the guests work out.
Speaker 4: Well, that's probably why you two are such good friends.
Speaker 4: And I think that also. The one thing I keep
Speaker 4: thinking about, Sidney is like, how if these people are
Speaker 4: kind of like even in this imaginary world where these
Speaker 4: people are turning on a dime and just being like,
Speaker 4: I'm mad because of like some small slight like those
Speaker 4: people are not pleasant to be friends with. And that's
Speaker 4: the thing I keep reminding myself, where it's like if
Speaker 4: I think someone's mad at me all the time, Like
Speaker 4: what am I getting out of this.
Speaker 2: Friendship Joe, here we go, Here We're gonna this is
Speaker 2: an unpopular opinion. We kind of like that shit if
Speaker 2: it puts fire under our ass, like we're like, it
Speaker 2: helps us spiral and worry because that's all we fucking do.
Speaker 3: Interesting, what do you think?
Speaker 4: I also really hate it when people are mad at me,
Speaker 4: But I I, I don't know, I think that me.
Speaker 4: I actually I think I might have uh cut the
Speaker 4: people out that get mad at me a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you're saying people would be mad at.
Speaker 4: You, there was like a few people that would get
Speaker 4: mad at me a lot, like like expectations that were unrealistic.
Speaker 3: Example, give us some give us some example, like uh.
Speaker 4: Like dropping everything to do whatever they need at any
Speaker 4: given moment, and like that. That is okay if it's
Speaker 4: if it's mutual, or if it's like if it's not
Speaker 4: every day, but I think if it's.
Speaker 1: Like your child, but yeah, dropping everything to do something
Speaker 1: that you need me to do because you're spiraling, this
Speaker 1: is what it is.
Speaker 4: If it's mutual.
Speaker 1: If it's mutual, you need me to drop everything that
Speaker 1: I'm doing because you're spiraling. And and then when I
Speaker 1: don't do it I spiral. Y'all are an abusive relationships?
Speaker 1: You guys. Yeah, Joe, I'm glad you're dumping these friends,
Speaker 1: but like this, y'all gotta be tired.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was, it was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that it was. I think also, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that there is a secret space of being
Speaker 4: honest but also not not making it about confrontation, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, where it's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, you know, introduce the LOL after
Speaker 4: you make a text, you know what I mean? But
Speaker 4: like something like that where it's like figuring it out
Speaker 4: a way, like to be either funny about it or
Speaker 4: lighthearted about it or something where it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 4: get your point across, but it doesn't have to be
Speaker 4: this whole moment of like what you betrayed me the
Speaker 4: other day, you know, it's like.
Speaker 1: You stabbed me in the back.
Speaker 4: Well, so.
Speaker 1: Is texting the way to see somebody's mad?
Speaker 2: No, you have to call, we have to never texts
Speaker 2: ever emails even worse.
Speaker 1: Well, Joe, who may concerns are you mad at me? Period?
Speaker 2: L do you bet BCC everybody You're like, are you
Speaker 2: mad at me? And send out a mass email of
Speaker 2: people that'd be funny.
Speaker 4: One hundred names per.
Speaker 1: Recipients.
Speaker 2: I think, Joe, I think I've worried more about if
Speaker 2: people are mad at me spiraling in a sense in
Speaker 2: comedy than like outside. I think like normis or you know, pedestrians, civilians,
Speaker 2: whatever we calls pedestrians, they I think are just more
Speaker 2: easy in terms of you can tell if they're mad
Speaker 2: at you. Also, they can't hold their tongue, so they
Speaker 2: just tell you like, hey, yeah, I didn't like that
Speaker 2: you didn't show up to my birthday, Like that was rude,
Speaker 2: you know those people. But in comedy everyone is so
Speaker 2: you know, underhanded and like, well, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: work with you, so I can't tell you that I
Speaker 2: fucking hate your guts. So everybody is like bullshitting each
Speaker 2: other and not being honest because they're like, well I
Speaker 2: might I might want to get a gig from them,
Speaker 2: or I want a spot. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 2: more stress in the industry.
Speaker 3: That's why we spiral.
Speaker 5: What I am really, I'm really confused on where you're
Speaker 5: standing on this. If I'm gonna be honest, because you're
Speaker 5: saying that like you're you're saying that it's exhausting and everything,
Speaker 5: but then you also said earlier that you love it.
Speaker 2: She did.
Speaker 3: I'm like what she did.
Speaker 1: But this is what I'm saying. When Sydney starts the spiral,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, girl, if that's what you're going to
Speaker 1: do this afternoon, do that. I'm not doing that with you.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not wasting the day doing this with you.
Speaker 1: Like grow up. I'm trying my drugs in the sun.
Speaker 1: I don't have time, like.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it I okay, Sorry, sorry to bring
Speaker 4: in another lesson from my acupuncture class. So this is
Speaker 4: other Japanese therapist named hold On. Let me get the
Speaker 4: name right. It's I think it's hold On. It's meant.
Speaker 4: I love that, Maria.
Speaker 3: I love that Joe is naming names.
Speaker 4: Okay, immes on the pod we love Okay. He's a psychologist,
Speaker 4: like around the same time as Freid. Okay. But he
Speaker 4: basically had all this anxiety and this like and he
Speaker 4: had all his body pain and stuff, and then when
Speaker 4: he stopped paying attention to it, it went away. Okay.
Speaker 4: So he like created this whole system where basically you
Speaker 4: like you like when you're really stressed out or when
Speaker 4: you're like really panicking and stuff, you go to this
Speaker 4: out this inpatient system where you like rest for a
Speaker 4: couple of days, and then when you get so bored,
Speaker 4: you start to do light housework, and then when you
Speaker 4: get so bored, you start to do heavy housework, and
Speaker 4: then when you get that bored, you end up going
Speaker 4: to do chores outside, like errands. But it's like this
Speaker 4: thing where it's like if you don't focus on your
Speaker 4: own anxiety and you focus on like physical tasks, he
Speaker 4: says that that is a way to cure anxiety.
Speaker 2: Well, if I did that, then I would be cleaning
Speaker 2: my own apartment and not having a cleaning person. So
Speaker 2: but my anxiety is so bad that I can't fucking
Speaker 2: clean my own place.
Speaker 1: So that I was gonna say, I mean, I live there.
Speaker 1: I live too anxious to do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hear what you're saying, our good sister, Joe.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying this will work for Kay, But
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, like there is some thing there
Speaker 4: where it's like, uh, you know, I'm really trying to
Speaker 4: get as much as I can out of this investment
Speaker 4: in school here, but basically, it's like if you I
Speaker 4: think there is something where it's like sometimes when I
Speaker 4: don't talk about the spiral, it does kind of feel
Speaker 4: like it's festering in me. But then I think when
Speaker 4: I don't bring too much attention to it and I
Speaker 4: really try my best to get over it, it does.
Speaker 4: It does go away quicker.
Speaker 3: It'll always go away.
Speaker 2: But like, yo, that feeling that you have in your throat,
Speaker 2: like not being able to sleep, the like feeling like
Speaker 2: your brain is going in circles.
Speaker 3: It's it is a nightmare. I know that. I said that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I like it because you know, sometimes yeah, I
Speaker 2: want a little drama. It's a little boring and everything
Speaker 2: is going right and I need to like make up
Speaker 2: a problem.
Speaker 3: But for the most.
Speaker 2: Part, it just it's not me like it truly just
Speaker 2: like happens and it sucks.
Speaker 3: Marie is looking at me crazy, What's what's the deal?
Speaker 1: You're saying it's not you, it is you. No, it's
Speaker 1: not that's not who that's who you are.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not entirely, no.
Speaker 1: Not entirely. Le Didney cares. Sidney's a very compassionate person.
Speaker 1: She cares about how what she does affects people. She
Speaker 1: cares about how people feel. You're always going to care
Speaker 1: about how people feel, or I was going to care
Speaker 1: about how what you do affects folks. That being said,
Speaker 1: you're very critical of yourself and if someone doesn't talk
Speaker 1: to you, like I mean, Sidney was talking to us,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I think so and so muted
Speaker 1: me on Sidney, so and so muted me on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I was like, so and she was like, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know why they would mute me. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why do you think that they
Speaker 1: muted you? And she was like, because I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: their stories. And I was like, so, I mean you
Speaker 1: muted them, Sydney.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it was like.
Speaker 5: They're not they're not engaging with your Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay, she.
Speaker 1: Was she couldn't see their content or they could.
Speaker 2: They definitely restricted me. They definitely restricted me, which is fine.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I mean, it's fine now, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: fine at the time.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But I I had to let go. I had to
Speaker 2: let go, let god in and let go. And I said,
Speaker 2: you know whatever, Sidney, you need to live love laugh baby,
Speaker 2: that it's.
Speaker 4: That whole compassionate thing. You got to make it about.
Speaker 4: You got to be compassionate towards yourself, which is really
Speaker 4: impossible to do. But it's oh and she left. Okay,
Speaker 4: so yeah, Well anyway, that's kind of the that's kind
Speaker 4: of the gist of what I was going for, Sydney.
Speaker 4: If you're still out there, I just want you to,
Speaker 4: you know, be compassionate towards yourself.
Speaker 1: Sidney, she went to pee or I don't know, brush
Speaker 1: brush her cats or something. Joe, have you ever spiral
Speaker 1: in a relationship or spiraled at a job? I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe people want to hear a little bit about
Speaker 1: something like that going down.
Speaker 4: Let's see spiraled it. I think that, you know, I
Speaker 4: once had this, Oh she's back. I once had I
Speaker 4: was working at a job and they we weren't allowed
Speaker 4: to talk to this the this Well okay, so we
Speaker 4: went in to talk to this celebrity to talk about
Speaker 4: a bit they were doing on the show. And I
Speaker 4: could tell as I was talking to this celebrity that
Speaker 4: she was physically disgusted with me, Like she was just
Speaker 4: like doing this face like it was like like like
Speaker 4: it was hurting her. Yeah, it was like hurting her
Speaker 4: to be around me, and I was like, I was
Speaker 4: like kind of just like going harder because I was like,
Speaker 4: I don't really know what to do here because like
Speaker 4: I have to communicate this information, and like I know
Speaker 4: she doesn't like this, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: And then afterwards I was like, that went really bad,
Speaker 4: but it was probably not It's probably not me. It's
Speaker 4: probably not me, it's probably something else. It's probably just
Speaker 4: she's confused and or frustrated or something about something else.
Speaker 4: And then afterwards a superior was like, listen, writers are
Speaker 4: no longer allowed to talk to celebrities, and I was like,
Speaker 4: it is me, It is me, Oh my god. And
Speaker 4: I like started to like be like what could I
Speaker 4: have done to make this better situation? What could I
Speaker 4: have done to make her like more comfortable? Did I
Speaker 4: fuck it up for everybody? And now that I have
Speaker 4: some perspective, it's like she this was a bad bit.
Speaker 4: It was a bad bit. It was a bad situation.
Speaker 4: She was late, she's she's really hot, she's really busy.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be the one to tell her anything,
Speaker 4: even if I if I was also really hot and
Speaker 4: really busy, it's just not going to affect anything. So
Speaker 4: it's like kind of just getting some perspective on it.
Speaker 4: Was a little bit.
Speaker 1: Was it Megan Fox?
Speaker 4: I wish it was it was another person who who's
Speaker 4: dating Ben Affleck.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jennifer? Yeah, look at that.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen, certain level celebrities, after you reach
Speaker 1: a certain point, they're not that nice and they're also
Speaker 1: not grounded. They're not real people anymore.
Speaker 4: She's the most beautiful person I've ever seen, but I
Speaker 4: couldn't say. She doesn't drink, she doesn't go in the sun.
Speaker 1: Apparently she puts olive oil or something. I know, it's
Speaker 1: not the j Lo beauty.
Speaker 4: It's never the product. It's absolutely never the product.
Speaker 1: It's botox and olive oil apparently something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not the greatest person of all. But also
Speaker 2: people are fucking annoying. They don't have any boundaries. And
Speaker 2: you know, fans are we love fans, but they also
Speaker 2: do the most and do too much sometimes.
Speaker 1: And in this situation, is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Not you, not Hugo, I'm saying, how were you standing
Speaker 3: to j Lo.
Speaker 4: Her knees?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I had both hands on both her knees, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you are going to make so many people laugh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, fans are annoying.
Speaker 3: No talking.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, she is she is the way she
Speaker 2: is because like, yeah, fans, people are annoying, so like
Speaker 2: it's a built up of things.
Speaker 3: It's not. It wasn't just you. It was just like
Speaker 3: in general, Well whatever, Marie, see this.
Speaker 1: Is that was funny, Sidney that us end on a
Speaker 1: high note after all this spiral chat.
Speaker 4: Either record, just for the record, I did want to
Speaker 4: talk about soup, but you said no.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, we didn't want you to think anything like Joe.
Speaker 2: We needed you to know that we were definitely like
Speaker 2: nah on that.
Speaker 1: Joe said she wanted to be our soup expert. Okay,
Speaker 1: since look we have literally two minutes left, what would
Speaker 1: you have told us about soup? Well, what you tell
Speaker 1: us about soup?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: The picture, Well, I just was gonna say that, you
Speaker 4: know what, a lot of soups it's kind of the
Speaker 4: same formula. It's kind of easy to master, and I
Speaker 4: just think it's a really it's a good skill. Can't
Speaker 4: do salad, but can't do soup.
Speaker 2: You can't make salads, that's why Jaylo don't like you
Speaker 2: because you don't make salad.
Speaker 3: Salads and Ben's ass and she's a yeah, she's a
Speaker 3: salad girl.
Speaker 2: Okay, the only soup she she eats is Ben Affleck's ass. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you think she's listening to the unofficial expert? What is it?
Speaker 1: Benifer?
Speaker 2: You know Joe has such a like extensive network. When
Speaker 2: when we repost this, you know, it might get to Gin,
Speaker 2: It might get to Gin, it might the girl that
Speaker 2: touched my knees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, since then, we've gotten really close, so it's actually
Speaker 4: all good. That's why stop spiraling. Yeah, we're pretty close
Speaker 4: now we're friends. The kiss on the lips pretty good?
Speaker 3: Oh wow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we before we head out, Joe, do you
Speaker 2: have any like last words for people who spiral like myself?
Speaker 2: Last words for spiralers? And maybe you know a good
Speaker 2: thing about us?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Two things?
Speaker 3: Yeah, two things.
Speaker 4: Yes, whenever you start a spiral, think about how great
Speaker 4: time travel would be, because you think right now sucks.
Speaker 4: Three weeks from now, actually I'm gonna think about something else,
Speaker 4: and so you think, why don't they event try and travel?
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it be wonderful?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: Joe? I agree with you on that. When I have
Speaker 1: a bad I'm having a bad time or a bad moment,
Speaker 1: I think about time travel too, but I do differently.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I wish I could just fast forward
Speaker 1: like two years from now where I was successful and
Speaker 1: living in a mansion with a pool.
Speaker 3: And I've been saying that for every two years.
Speaker 2: Like two years ago, I was like, I wish I
Speaker 2: could fastward to like this year and this year.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, Okay, So if I keep saying, you know.
Speaker 2: Two years from now, I'm always like a year behind.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the mathematics on this is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. In eighteen, did you say what you could
Speaker 1: fast forward two years?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you wanted to get to twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: then you got there and.
Speaker 3: Then it was fuck.
Speaker 7: I imagine being in twenty seventeen or eighteen and being like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I will fast forward to twenty twenty, and it's like, oh, wow,
Speaker 7: I really asked for the wrong thing, exactly. I should
Speaker 7: have been a little bit more specific in my years exactly.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Joe, this was awesome.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Sorry, this guy really emotional, but
Speaker 4: I'm no, I gotta talk to you.
Speaker 1: Nobody cried.
Speaker 2: Nobody cried, and I and so I cry. So it's
Speaker 2: no this was great. I really do enjoy you, Joe.
Speaker 2: I think you're so funny, and you definitely are different,
Speaker 2: like in the sense that no comedians always they do
Speaker 2: too much. They be trying so hard in conversation, and
Speaker 2: you're just yourself and you always have like a good time.
Speaker 2: And that's why I can go to the movies with
Speaker 2: you and now send you emojis via ten.
Speaker 4: The feelings are mutual. The feelings are mutual.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a beautiful episode. Let's end, Andrew, do
Speaker 1: you have a message for j Low before we go?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait, no, no, no, Joe, can you tell everybody
Speaker 2: where they can catch you and find you?
Speaker 4: And Andrew will put a pin in it, Andrew, hold
Speaker 4: on a second, I gotta do some plugs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would say you could follow me on Instagram, but
Speaker 4: I don't really do that much. You could go to
Speaker 4: my website. I guess I put shows up there Joe
Speaker 4: Firestone dot.
Speaker 3: Com and Joe's doing the knit soon, So.
Speaker 4: I am okay, Wait you why.
Speaker 1: Are you saying like you didn't know. Are you not
Speaker 1: in there? Did we not have a conversation about this?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Joe.
Speaker 1: I feel like I put you in there. Maybe I
Speaker 1: didn't tink about it.
Speaker 3: Let me look, it looked like we didn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, little, all right, soon you want to do it
Speaker 1: on July eleventh or July eighteenth.
Speaker 5: This is pretty contact.
Speaker 1: This is well, This is so the listeners know that
Speaker 1: they can come see Joe Firestone at the.
Speaker 4: Nitty July eleventh.
Speaker 1: Amazing, you're in there, friend, Joe Fireston. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: you can see at the Dining Factory on July eleventh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bring bring a dead.
Speaker 1: Ass, bring that ass now again. Let's end now. Andrew
Speaker 1: a word for jay Loo or about jay Loo?
Speaker 5: A word for Jail. I guess I'm excited for her
Speaker 5: and her new blossoming relationship with an Ax. I think
Speaker 5: it seems topeaking.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, that's where and you wanted to leave it.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, So.
Speaker 5: I have nothing to say to j Lo.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 5: Maybe she'll be at the net as well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, on July eighteenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she also will. She also will be performing comedy
Speaker 2: at she's.
Speaker 1: Coming with her good friend Joe on the eleventh. All Right, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Stop spiraling. None of this actually matters.
Speaker 1: We're living in a simulation. Live your life and know
Speaker 1: that time travel will be possible soon, and one day
Speaker 1: you'll be able to go back to the thing that's
Speaker 1: bothering you, fix it, and go back to reality where
Speaker 1: no one cares.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the person that you think is mad at
Speaker 2: you most likely has herpies, so they're dealing with their
Speaker 2: own issues, you know.
Speaker 1: Wow, Sidney a Sydney fact.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that they're not mad at you. They're mad.
Speaker 3: They're mad at something else.
Speaker 1: It's not their burning crouch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow. Word to live by anyway.
Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, Bye Forever.
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