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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Brian Sex steps John Ogris, Actually, Jaguarris

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Speaker 1: Drive Time starts right now. Good morning and welcome into

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. Thursday morning, brought to you by Jet Homeland.

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Speaker 1: A beautiful day in Jacksonville as I bring in Brian

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Speaker 1: Sexton and John Osier, getting ready to preview this big

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Speaker 1: week to match up against the Tennessee Titans. But first

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Speaker 1: I must admit something. Brian Sexton. We live relatively close

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Speaker 1: was it like? It was a nice Chris eight two

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Speaker 1: this morning. That's fabulous. Wait, how are you going to

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Speaker 1: It one night, it's supposed to get down your sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: You better go get yourself a park at Florida. Girl.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, god, are you ready for that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm more than ready for it, but I'm particularly ready

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Speaker 1: so weather remains everything. Weather revolves around your life. I

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Speaker 1: understand John. Alright, guys, let's get into big things. Enough

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Speaker 1: about the weather. There's a game on Sunday. Big thing

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Speaker 1: waits in Nashville, Tennessee. The Jaguars always practiced and noise.

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Speaker 1: They played a game in front of fans last Sunday,

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Speaker 1: So how will this weekend's game on Sunday affect them?

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Speaker 1: Maybe it could be a good thing to Jaguars have

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Speaker 1: Possibly we'll be able to hear better on often. Good

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Speaker 1: much more quiet in Nashville on sun Day. Big thing too,

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Speaker 1: gives it. It's a fair question. Last week the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: the game, and Sully his production started to sink as

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Speaker 1: So they do a great job with their uh different

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Speaker 1: But let's preview this game on Sunday. First. John Osier,

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Speaker 1: How big of a deal is that. I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: how that works. Let's quickly go to big thing Thing,

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Speaker 1: Big thing too about this offense with Gardnerman. Should we

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Speaker 1: yesterday for the whole crew was depending on tonight's Thursday

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Speaker 1: to play like he is playing the host, the show

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Speaker 1: go on to say that Gardner Minshew is a better

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Speaker 1: some reason on Twitter, whether Baker Mayfield or Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: I mean people get locked in on draft position, and

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Speaker 1: one overall. The only thing that Baker Mayfield has that

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minsho doesn't is a rocket for an arm. He's

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Speaker 1: got a big arm. But in every other respect, Minsho

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Speaker 1: Look at the record, Minshew is a better quarterback than Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes even when you have the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: very curious to see how that game plays out night

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Bengals with Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: for John. If the Browns don't win tonight, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to know what happened to Cleveland. Well, and they

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Speaker 1: that to people. But yeah, if if you go and

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Speaker 1: times in uh in Cleveland. Well, you've got each of

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Speaker 1: Top Pro Football Hall of Fame dominations are out in

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Speaker 1: Three former Jaguars are on the list. Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith,

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, those steps that you've got to take

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Speaker 1: there are so many receivers. I mean, this league became

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Speaker 1: But does Jimmy Smith have Hall of Fame credentials? Absolutely,

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